live-broadcast-chat

[sand lotus]

Most of the Arcade buttons do not come with cables. Spade connector cables can be purchased separately so they're easier to plug into the buttons. https://www.adafruit.com/product/3835

[vagrant flax]

patiently awaiting my adabox 😌

[sand lotus]

https://learn.adafruit.com/diy-iot-doorbell-camera-with-memento

[rocky reef]

3D Parts Library on GitHub -
https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CAD_Parts

Mini LED Arcade Button -
https://www.adafruit.com/product/3429

420mah Battery -
https://www.adafruit.com/product/4236

Layer by Layer CAD Playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjF7R1fz_OOVsMp6nKnpjsXSQ45nxfORb

[sand lotus]

Memento doesn't have enough free pins for SPI peripherals. Can do I2C and 2 free pins A0 and A1.

Art Deco is still pretty. Just depends on your aesthetic preferences. Some people don't like tomatoes. Everyone has their own tastes.

[vagrant flax]

I've wished a couple of times that the Neopixel rings had pads on the back instead of thru-holes (like the sticks)

it's a lot easier to design around

(and also solder lol)

[winter zinc]

Idea for the project: when it detects a face, it says "Hello, I am robot friend! May I take a picture?" instead of the automatic pic taking 😄

[vagrant flax]

Niiice job on the diffuser!

looks great

night and day

lol that's my problem with basically all tech these days lol, you always need your phone or whatever and it takes 20 steps to turn a light on

[shell mason]

nightstand light clock with alarm

[urban gale]

most of those RTC breakouts shd have a dedicated alarm function

[vagrant flax]

lately every time I want to make something I'm torn between the RP2040 propmaker feather or some ESP32. It's making me wish for an ESP32-flavored propmaker feather

(I know I can use the propmaker featherwing but I can't overstate how awesome the all-in-one propmaker feather is)

@sand lotus really coming in clutch with the gel film diffuser suggestion

[vagrant flax]

Oh!

I've improved this even further! Lemme see if I can find a more recent video

[unreal bay]

now that's a nice improvement, gotta love community contributions / ideas

[vagrant flax]

basically I improved the grid geometry for better led isolation and made some other modes too

it's simon-inspired 😄

I do plan to make a simon game with it!

Well I'll work on it soon then and get the code up!

[wise iris]

thanks guys!

[upbeat coral]

Is there gonna be an Adabox unboxing?

😀

[rocky reef]

thanks so much for hanging out folks!

[vagrant flax]

Thanks for another awesome show!

[upbeat coral]

Thank you for taking time for us

[hard hollow]

thanks folks! cya tonight

[urban gale]

Thanks all!

[upbeat coral]

Hey Y'll

[dawn bear]

Hello from soggy Los Angeles!

[viral sail]

Good evening everyone.

[drowsy inlet]

hello all

[open girder]

Link to join to show and share your project! https://streamyard.com/z8j5cg9swa & WE ARE LIVE! SHOW AND TELL! https://youtu.be/MvMZCjKV1xc

[dawn bear]

23cm of rain in two days

[nova totem]

Evening everyone

[drowsy inlet]

Very nice! Need to get a Playground post up for that and the simon game (once done).

[dawn bear]

Can show rockets I built? 🙂

[brazen quail]

Way kewl Scott. @rapid hornet

[gray obsidian]

the rolls are rolling around

[drowsy inlet]

yum 🍣

[dawn bear]

Good to see ya @rapid hornet

[drowsy inlet]

that could make a cool game if touchscreen - touch certain plates, goes faster on each correct

[dawn bear]

Doesn't the sushi slime the screen? Or the juice eat the plastic?

[blissful apex]

hello

[gray obsidian]

Main engine turn on. All your rockets are belong to us!

[dawn bear]

@haughty quiver Drying out? I am ... just...

[cinder wind]

INFINITE FOCUS

[gray obsidian]

So if you have ADHD it can focus for you?

[cinder wind]

wish I had infinite focus

[gray obsidian]

focuslider

[smoky island]

Amazing photo magic 🪄

[dawn bear]

@cinder wind whats your f/ ratio? Or zoom range

[cinder wind]

ahaha f/100

focus stacking is so cool and very hard. one paper about it: https://graphics.stanford.edu/papers/focalstack/focalstack.pdf

now it's a button in Photoshop

[nova totem]

I was thinking how you would even do that

[dawn bear]

Stacking is a thing in Astrophotography but all at ~ focus

Freezes the air, helps the S/N, etc

@blissful apex The CAT!!!! I love the KITTY!!!!!!!!!!!

[gray obsidian]

psychedelic !

[viral sail]

🪐

[smoky island]

Those glowy globes look great

[dawn bear]

@blissful apex what happens if the kitty meows? Also a great touch pad project for the kitty! Can we teach the kitty to play ? Touch?

Hi @smoky island !!!

[gray obsidian]

Cyberdeck all the thingz!

[drowsy inlet]

very cool. reminds me of environmental reactive effects we had in a game i worked on long ago (Def Jam: Icon) - environment reacted to music

[cinder wind]

Very cool @smoky island! Does the editor have vi or emacs bindings? 🤓

[dawn bear]

BETTER BE VI 😄 Just sayin'

[gray obsidian]

ctrl-x… that'd be nano I suppose

[drowsy inlet]

https://xkcd.com/378/

[dawn bear]

Yeah XKCD is awesome

Nano? Ick, 🤣

@haughty quiver now I know why I should have bought JPs PPoW

[cinder wind]

Is there an official guide for how to get CircuitPython stubs working?

[turbid hill]

nice add for VScode but the ext from joedevivo called CircuitPython does all the stub/board work.,

[gray obsidian]

Good old Neanderthal Technology 🙂

[cinder wind]

I've had such bad experience with the VSCode CircuitPython extension. I removed it

[gray obsidian]

WANT

[smoky island]

this is the only thing that I am aware of: https://learn.adafruit.com/welcome-to-circuitpython/pycharm-and-circuitpython#install-circuitpython-stubs-3105091 it's just a single section of a page that is specific to pycharm. The stubs are deployed on pypi though so installing them should be as easy as pip install circuitpython-stubs

[gray obsidian]

Wait no, I don't have the budget to power it

[turbid hill]

@cinder wind I would be interested in what you hit, I can update the github for the project to fix things or add feature requests.

[gray obsidian]

and you still have room for a bed?

😅

[viral sail]

Another great S&T. Thanks for sharing, everyone.

[tulip canyon]

Thanks all for sharing

[gray obsidian]

Next, make a sushi conveyor to put them under the microscope

n8 !

[drowsy inlet]

super cool stuff, as always. thanks all!

[dry marten]

Thanks for the show

[upbeat coral]

Thank s to all for sharing with us

[cinder wind]

well I just tried installing it. Opened code.py and tried to select CircuitPython mode from the list of langauges from the bottom right button and it's not there. Then I try to open the REPL by opening the Command Palette and choosing "CircuitPython: select Serial Port" and it pops up an error "command 'circuitpython.selectSerialPort' not found"

[turbid hill]

@cinder wind, what version of the ext, 1.1.20 or 1.2.0, current best version is 1.1.20

[cinder wind]

the one from the extension list when I click "Extensions" and search for "CircuitPython". Looks like version 0.2.0. There is another process for installing extensions?

[brazen stone]

pointy end up, flamey end down

[open girder]

ASK AN ENGINEER 2/7/2024 LIVE! https://youtu.be/d_d92RbHpYg

[turbid hill]

@cinder wind right click the ext and pick a version and roll back to 1.1.20, this is noted on the github issues page and it has to do with a missing metadata.json file in the boards section

[open girder]

10% discount code, code is: itglows http://www.adafruit.com ends at midnight NYC time

[drowsy inlet]

come for the engineering, stay for the noods

[cinder wind]

But I'm on version 0.2.0. I shouldn't be rolling back right, if I'm supposed to go to 1.1.20. If you mean 0.1.20. I just tried that and get the same error when trying to open the REPL

[turbid hill]

@cinder wind Don't worry it will be fine, this will be fixed, another way to fix the issue is to install 1.1.20 and take the missing metada.json in the boards subfolder and copy it to 0.2.0. I usually rebuild the stubs and boards regularly to keep up with newer boards on the download site. Which rebuilds that json file

[cinder wind]

The latest version available under "Install another version" is 0.2.0. There certainly isn't a 1.1.20

[delicate fractal]

Kung Hei Fat Choi

[turbid hill]

@cinder wind you can either right click ext or open it's page up in VSC
or

@cinder wind sorry added extra 1 to the version

[cinder wind]

so you do mean 0.1.20 not 1.1.20. I get the same error on 0.1.20

[turbid hill]

@cinder wind yes

@cinder wind are you on a mac

@cinder wind when using 0.1.20 can you pick a board properly now

[cinder wind]

yes

[turbid hill]

@cinder wind I have a mac at work that I could test this, My experience is mostly Linux and some windows

[rich wing]

I'm never quite sure which credit/debit card will have availability when AdaBox ships.. if I add a gif certificate to my account now, can that be used for the AdaBox payment? #FOMO

[open girder]

@rich wing good question, ask our support team (not 100% sure on that) [e-mail]

[cinder wind]

sorry this is inappropriate for this channel. but it's indicative of the issues people have with the extension. It would be very useful to be able to choose which circuitpython board without needing to connect to serial, since that seems the flakyest part of the extension.
But really, I just want to install circuitpython-stubs and have vscode see it

[turbid hill]

@cinder wind sorry, I am not forcing anything you wish not to do. Maybe the other stubs system will work. I happened to be really familiar with ext and my preferred environment is Linux so I know what to look for in this ext. I can test on the mac see if I can duplicate it. I will submit some suggestions for it to the author.

[cinder wind]

I just want a way to open up code.py, maybe say which CircuitPython board I'm on, and go into a "CircuitPython mode" that recognizes import touchio as being a legit thing to do. I don't need the REPL requirement, I have tio in the Terminal. The current extension forces a (seemingly very buggy) serial implementation that I have never seen work

[turbid hill]

@cinder wind I will test this tomorrow on the mac, I do know that mac serial is different than windows or Linux serial.

[cinder wind]

seems to be not just macos: https://github.com/joedevivo/vscode-circuitpython/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+serial

[dim knot]

https://learn.adafruit.com/guides/latest

[turbid hill]

@cinder wind I will check this, My windows VSC does not seem to do this nor does my Linux, I know that if you cannot pick a board then you cannot pick the com port. In testing things I usually plug in a MCU mount the circuitpy drive, then open VSC, open the circuitypy folder, then pick the board then connect to serial in this order.

[delicate fractal]

There's lots of videos on Youtube too, and some of them are cats. Billie is the best. As you might expect, she says "mad" a lot!

[cinder wind]

This is one of the usability problems. I should be able to code for a board without it being plugged in.

[turbid hill]

@cinder wind this ext was built on the code base from someone else for Arduino in the atom editor I guess the workflow was set in this way. One of the things this does is it tells VSC about where the global lib pack for CP is and maps the VID/PID for the board in question. I have never considered coding for a MCU without being actually on the board. What you describe is the workflow for ESP-IDF or Arduino where you code first and when ready push to a MCU, in that style of workflow you don't need the MCU until you are ready to test the code.

[dim knot]

https://adabox.com/

[delicate fractal]

Video&audio just froze. Is that me or Adafruit?

[drowsy inlet]

frozen here as well

[turbid hill]

so it was not just me

[open girder]

yikes

[turbid hill]

Thaw out the Adafruit hamster

[open girder]

the broadcast service is down

[vagrant flax]

😢

[delicate fractal]

Like, all of Youtube Live is down?

[open girder]

coming nack maybe ...

[delicate fractal]

"please stand by" just came live

[open girder]

seems back!

[drowsy inlet]

can hear voices

[open girder]

yah, that was me freaking out

haha

down again

[delicate fractal]

"people can use GPS <dead air>"

[open girder]

maybe back

[steep mica]

ok nobody worry I can take over:
as you can see here we've got blue circles and white circles. they can be different sizes. there's red rectangles sometimes

[vagrant flax]

[drowsy inlet]

or go the math route: given the above figures, calculate area of blue areas

[open girder]

ok, back maybe

[crisp trench]

Wow, I like this device.

[delicate fractal]

AoA? Angle of Attack?

[dim knot]

TFP401 HDMI/DVI Decoder to 40-Pin TTL Breakout - With Touch https://www.adafruit.com/product/2219

[rich wing]

And on another payment question... I'm starting a new job soon and while I'm doing the payroll direct deposit forms, can I have part of it deposited into my Adafruit account along with the other deductions?

(Kidding.. mostly. 😉)

[open girder]

🙂

[dim knot]

nOOds - Flexible LED Filament - 24V 1.2m long - Lime Green https://www.adafruit.com/product/5865

nOOds - Flexible LED Filament - 24V 1.2m long - Blue https://www.adafruit.com/product/5866

nOOds - Flexible LED Filament - 24V 1.2m long - Red https://www.adafruit.com/product/5867

[bold tundra]

can the 5v natural white led strip 320/meter but cut into shorted lengths?

[dim knot]

Double-Sided Single Color 12V LED Strip - Warm White 3000K - 1m https://www.adafruit.com/product/5860

Double-Sided Single Color 12V LED Strip - Cool White 6000K - 1m https://www.adafruit.com/product/5864

Adafruit ESP32-S3 Feather 8MB with w.FL Antenna https://www.adafruit.com/product/5885

[echo canopy]

Question for the show @open girder

You sell a few GPIO expanders, between the PCF8574 and MCP23017 , do you have a favorite for usage (reliability , speed)

I’m using on a’ ESP32 S3 I don’t want to solder on the main ESP board and just use the expander to read input changes

Thanks

[delicate fractal]

During show&tell, JP showed off the manual focus... is there a manual exposure setting?

[viral sail]

Thanks @open girder and good night. 🌘

[upbeat coral]

Thank you for taking time for us.

[drowsy inlet]

thank you!

[tulip canyon]

Thanks @open girder

[gusty wedge]

@haughty quiver Don't know if you have settled on a focus stacking software yet for the guide.
I have been doing focus stacking for microscopy of orchid protocorms and now starting to do some insect macro stacking as well using this thing. As simple as it can be with some nice results.
https://github.com/PetteriAimonen/focus-stack

[haughty quiver]

Thanks @gusty wedge I’ll check it out!

[gusty wedge]

Here's an orchid protocorm. With and without (I still need to improve this with some darkfield or Rheinberg techniques.

[viscid bolt]

Good afternoon.

[inner spade]

Hello!

[lavish patrol]

Hello, all.

[open surge]

good afternoon

[viral sail]

Good afternoon.

[haughty quiver]

hi there!

[ivory flax]

On the road. Going to miss part of your live shop and will have to watch later. Have a great weekend

[lavish patrol]

What's the focus of today's Workshop? 🤔 😄

[haughty quiver]

it is unclear

[lavish patrol]

Lol

[viscid bolt]

and tricky

[clever summit]

🇸🇪 👋

[tulip canyon]

Howdy all

[lavish patrol]

Good evening, @clever summit 👍

[clever summit]

Good Evening mr. Callaway

[lavish patrol]

Moar CRTs... 😄

[spiral vale]

Aloha!

[lavish patrol]

At work we had a degausssing wand.

Is that any relation to hocus POTUS?

[drowsy inlet]

hello all

[lavish patrol]

I see the new CRT.

[vagrant flax]

[drowsy inlet]

quick way to copy a list:
list2 = list1[:]
which is different from
list2=list1

[sand lotus]

We need emoji syntax ```py
:) for smiles in smiley :)

oh neotrellis blinkies

[cinder wind]

woohoo!

[lavish patrol]

Noice.

[cinder wind]

code for video that JP showed:

import time, random, board
import neopixel
num_leds = 32
leds = neopixel.NeoPixel(board.NEOPIXEL, num_leds, brightness=0.1)
leds[0:3] = (0xff00ff, 0x00ff00, 0x00ffff)  # set some initial colors
while True:
    tmp = leds[-1]   # get last color
    leds[1:] = leds[0:-1]  # move everybody to the right
    leds[0] = tmp  # stick last color at beginning
    if random.random() > 0.8:  # every so often, toss in a new color
        leds[0] = random.choice((0, 0, 0xff00ff, 0x00ff00, 0x00ffff))
    time.sleep(0.1)

[cinder wind]

I just used this tip recently when I realized I was scribbling over a list I wasn't supposed to be!

[drowsy inlet]

Kind of related, also why you don't want to initialize parameters with, eg, []. Use None instead and then assign a new list in the code if necessary. One of those Python gotchas: https://docs.python-guide.org/writing/gotchas/

[sand lotus]

says right there on the label inside "rechargeable batteries" and some instructions on their use. i would say good luck finding a battery but this is also the guy who figured out how to use a dewalt battery on a portable vacuum.

[viral sail]

It's the Cosmic Background Radiation channel.

[lavish patrol]

Lol

[sand lotus]

ahh static the sound of my childhood.

[unreal bay]

is this where you whip out your Raspberry Pi 1A with s-video out?

[lavish patrol]

Why is there a tomato on the bench? Is that Lars' lunch?

[sand lotus]

Quasar made some really good stuff.

[cinder wind]

Seems like best source of real white noise nowadays is old radios and TVs

[sand lotus]

My dad had a pair of 4 foot Quasar speakers that were amazing. They worked for about 40 years before I blew the speakers.

[tulip canyon]

Distance from camera also affects DoF

[sand lotus]

A bit advanced but you can record photoshop actions to automate generating images into animations or spritesheets. Actions can really help speed up your workflow. Not a big deal if you're dealing with 10 images but if it's 100+ images you're going to find a way to automate it.

[tulip canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/jaws-dolly-zoom-classics-gif-12429391

[sand lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/lord-of-the-rings-dolly-zoom-gif-26178501

This was lord of the rings i think

[cinder wind]

you kids and yer fancy softwares? back when we had to buy crazy split diopter lens like

(I don't actually do filming so I've never actually used such stuff, just watch movies ahah)

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/camera-zoom-in-picture-shoot-focus-gif-17848265

[sand lotus]

Pixlr is a good free alternative for photoshop online and for video editing HitFilms (for windows) is a good free video editing program I can recommend.

[lavish patrol]

Clever.

[sand lotus]

Nice effect to ensure everything in a picture is perfectly in focus.

Stacking images is widely used in space photography with telescopes.

Amazing quality for the Memento. Bravo. 👏

[lavish patrol]

What's the resolution on that camere?

[sand lotus]

Can go up to 2560 x 1920

[ivory flax]

Will the momento camer do the green screen effect like you did in 2020 using a RGB ring and green light?

[dawn bear]

Cant see it

[sand lotus]

We can't see the window

[lavish patrol]

Can't see it, @haughty quiver

[sand lotus]

can see it now 👍

[inner spade]

Hoping to adapt PaletteFilter once I figure out how to adapt it to jpeg palettes. https://youtu.be/oVj-Juuj4Jk?si=Q5c3zfjlmkZoJIXj

[cinder wind]

oooo that's cool!

[lavish patrol]

Focuses? Foci? 😉

[cinder wind]

what's the collective noun: a filmroll of focuses?

[lavish patrol]

A facility?

[sand lotus]

foci, like catctucuses

[lavish patrol]

Lol

[cinder wind]

"Lars is pretty dark". yeah no kidding there JP

[lavish patrol]

For Lars, the light should be green.

[sand lotus]

I feel like red would be a better color for lars... dark red.

[cinder wind]

@haughty quiver I like the changing pitch of the audio blips to indicate focus position

[sand lotus]

fun fact: dark white is grey

[lavish patrol]

Lars is like a Weeping Angel. You'll notice he never moves while on camera. 😮

[sand lotus]

Lars looking at having some chicken dinner.

Good photoshop tips and tricks. I've never used that technique, good stuff.

[cinder wind]

Memento camera is cool in that it let's us code up some of the techniques our magic pocket computers can do, see actually how hard some of this stuff is

[lavish patrol]

Great Workshop again.

[sand lotus]

I can't believe half the features in the camera right out of the gate. It's pretty amazing. Exceeding my expectations for a microcontroller camera.

[tulip canyon]

Thanks JP, Have a great week all.

[sand lotus]

Thank you JP for another great workshop.

[lavish patrol]

Bye all. 👋

[haughty quiver]

thanks much!

[open surge]

thanks JP!

[haughty quiver]

📸

[inner spade]

Thanks JP!

[sand lotus]

🐔 🦥

[timid plover]

Hello Deep Divers

[shell mason]

deep divers unite

[eager matrix]

Hi Scott. I hope all is well.

[brazen quail]

Keepin' it real in 'rado.

[nova totem]

"Why can't I hear Scott" Oh yeah I muted everything because I was on a teams meeting and having random voices from YT isn't ideal

[dawn bear]

Hi from LA. Hi! Earthquake. 4.5 about 10 minutes ago.

[gritty falcon]

Hello

[lyric sphinx]

Good morning.

[inner spade]

Hello!

[dawn bear]

Yes! Never get used to them.

We've talke about IDEs and I guess you use Sublime. Are there CP specific plugin's that know what is and is not CP? Or does everyone just use a "Python" language syntax/completion etc.

Others use different IDEs?

[viscid bolt]

Good afternoon

[dawn bear]

Of course @rapid hornet is doing C++

[turbid hill]

Use VSC plus Joes CircuitPython extension to handle stubs and boards

[dawn bear]

@rapid hornet Excellent. And yes I was hoping there are board stubs

[turbid hill]

Defiantly not Calgary at the moment

[dawn bear]

I still miss the kitty cam 😄

[rapid hornet]

https://learn.adafruit.com/welcome-to-circuitpython/pycharm-and-circuitpython

[dawn bear]

Thanks. We need a remote kitty cam! :D. - Execellent

[turbid hill]

I tried out pycharm but I am afraid I am addicted to VSC

[brazen quail]

Improvements !

[wind spoke]

We need to find a way to get the cats near the camera at home... maybe a remote food distributor?

[eager matrix]

Did you see that they reviewed wire cutters recently?

[proper prawn]

Hi Scott and all present. Happy friiday!

[dawn bear]

Definitely not the kitty box... 😛

[turbid hill]

Are your cams in Apple or Linux and if Linux using V4L2 and have you encountered the issue with two many cams on the usb bus.

[eager matrix]

Speaking of cameras, I asked a tech question about an Adafruit product a few days ago and haven't gotten and answered yet. I’m using a Spy Camera for Raspberry Pi (Product ID: 1937) and I need to know what camera module it uses. I’m using with a RockPi board and it’s not working so getting specifics will be helpful. Can anyone help me?

[turbid hill]

Same USB host controller or different host controllers.

The reason for the questions is that my channel I have 4 cams and have issues with multi-cams on same USB host controller

[nova totem]

I should get a new web cam, though lately the only thing I use it is for coming on show and tell

[wind spoke]

So all that setup for 2H streaming a week and some Show and Tell presence... we are lucky.

[lyric sphinx]

I seem to recall there's a bit in the USB video spec where the device announces its estimated bandwidth use, and there were some ('free' cameras, mostly) that either didn't do this or did it badly. I've no idea if it's still an issue anywhere.

[turbid hill]

You said your face cam is HDMI capture, is the capture itself a usb capture or a card like a black magic

Look in the MB for the breakout of USB to host controllers, it's usually a block diagram in the manual

[lyric sphinx]

(I'd had trouble with 4x USB cameras (same model) on raspberry pi, but good question if it's USB, driver, or streamer that was glitching)

[timid plover]

sometimes there are datasheets and other technical data

[ornate coyote]

@rapid hornet is your Sony ZV-1 the model ZV-1F or model ZV-1 II ? Vlogging or digital version ?

there seem to be 3-4 versions now

and a 4K version. Yes, I love the focus and eye tracking. Thinking of getting one.

[unreal bay]

Seen the logitech reach? (pre-priced about $300) but looks great for deskcam + switch to face if required https://www.logitech.com/en-gb/products/webcams/reach-overhead-content-camera.html

[ornate coyote]

Sorry for the side rack - but you brought it up 😉

[turbid hill]

I am using this camera for the bench, it does 4k and has a remote which is nice.

MOKOSE 12MP HDMI Camera 1080P USB HD Streaming Teaching Webcam, Recording 4K@30FPS Industry C/CS-Mount Camera with 6-12mm No Distortion Manual Zoom Lens

[shell mason]

nice xarnlen

[glad mortar]

hey

[ornate coyote]

Ooer, the logitech reach table top edition looks awesome from a usability POV - but not available yet 😦

[wind spoke]

The "problem" with UK reseller is that they cherry-pick the product they follow, and it take time between availability on Adafruit and availability on UK shops. So if you want the latest product from Adafruit, you have to be lucky and wait... But they sometime have stock of old products or product not available anymore. And after some time they will make a discount if they don't want to keep following a product.

[turbid hill]

Auto Focus can be a pain

[wind spoke]

With MEMENTO you can make an auto out-of-focus camera.

[unreal bay]

ha, love it, when my face is detected it goes to opposite focal end

[turbid hill]

My Memento is here just have not unpacked it yet, this Sat I will do a mail call on my channel when I unpack all my new adafruit goodies

[lyric sphinx]

(So that's what camera firmware Melville (from Talos Principle 2) is running. ;) )

[turbid hill]

mentos candy releases co2 in suspension in cola in a vary dramatic result

[unreal bay]

maybe the lithium battery pack for the Memento would do similar

[turbid hill]

If anyone is interested here is a link to my channel, I do it for fun. www.youtube.com/@ElectronicEnigmaZone

[timid plover]

what do you see on the logic analyzer ? ( I realize you are confident that PWM out is ok )

wait

[unreal bay]

you make me think of the USB Cart-of-Death that i recently read about on TheRegister (for testing the windows USB stack and hotplug support)
https://www.theregister.com/2023/11/25/windows_usb_cart_of_death/

[turbid hill]

The sigrok analyzer I used for signal acquisition I put it in a dedicated Pi

I send the Pi output to a capture card that is in OBS

I have two capture systems a black magic for the camera and a USB3 capture for anything on the bench I want to capture their output

[brazen quail]

With USB host support now in CP, is bar code keyboard to serial conversion easy ?

[timid plover]

reading the code to find the bug avoided the scope/logic analzer - good choice

[unreal bay]

got a barcode reader that outputs as keyboard, should be plug and play, barcode your way to a code.py file

[turbid hill]

When you run the ESP32 SDK Configuration tool and set a value is that value written to the MCU or is it stored in the build tree so when compiled and uploaded it then takes effect?

[lyric sphinx]

Ooh! I was wondering if that was getting worked on.

[unreal bay]

tree, sdkconfig

[turbid hill]

If the Motorola Symbol bar code scanner is any clue, it converts the bar code to a stream of keycodes that software has to interpret it depends on barcode like 128A or 37

[nova totem]

most the barcode readers I dealt with would act as a keyboard and "type" the code for you

Once configured

(used to work for the lottery - lots of barcodes)

[lyric sphinx]

Most of the barcode readers I've dealt with were cuecat. :(

[turbid hill]

It turns the code into a series of whatever the barcode said it was for example a UPC code is 11 or 13 numbers plug the scanner in a system and open a notepad and start scanning UPC codes and you get the alpha/numeric in the notepad as if you typed it on the keyboard

[unreal bay]

Most barcode systems have keycode symbols too, or the reader supports extra for the needed purpose, just need to find the pdf with them all in. Same pdf you use to switch between HID keyboard and other modes.

[eager matrix]

See y'all next week. I need a nap.

[turbid hill]

Woot in the ESP IDF 5.1 simplified some of the code for LED control, instead of pStrip_a->set_pixel it's now just led_strip_set_pixel

Are you getting some of those new strips that puts NEO pixels on both sides of the strip

I know from Dave Plummer channel 12V for long strips is better than 5v

[lyric sphinx]

You're thinking voltage drop from length and current draw.

[turbid hill]

Are you saying this is a problem in the S2 but not so much in the S3, I thought the S3 had a dedicated LED pin for fast speed

[wind spoke]

Should you try your python test code on a known working platform to verify the expected result as a reference?

[nova totem]

I somehow broke one of my playground pages earlier this week. Fixed now, not sure what happened.

[turbid hill]

Do playground pages if they get really good get transferred to learn guide pages

[nova totem]

support helped fix it

[glad mortar]

oh yea thats a great tip, actually on reason why I'm sometimes afraid of using CircuitPython for unattended little projects that I just want to keep going if they hit edge cases that I didn't anticipate but also probably don't care much about

oh neat yea

[unreal bay]

Is there something like safemode.py that can be used in the event of Hard faults?

[wind spoke]

You can use that mechanism to have your project run in loop on a silly error in the begining of the code, and you get a hard time to stop it. So only enable that once you know most of your code is working. 🙂

[timid plover]

https://github.com/jedgarpark/parsec/blob/main/2023-11-09/code.py used set_next_code_file

[unreal bay]

and does that run if a cpy hard fault happens?

I use safemode to log errors and reboot/enable usb etc, but seen hardfaults on other devices with screens and not sure they're trapped

Cool, thanks

Yeah Hard_Fault was at top of that page of reasons

[glad mortar]

for sure, would love to see more like that for how to do simple error handling setups for cases where you just wanna keep chugging as much as possible without writing the code itself all too "error handly".
Logging the edge cases to SD would be rad. Sounds like that could actually be a useful core addition

[unreal bay]

is there a way to retrieve the previous backtrace on reboot?

[glad mortar]

internal code storage would work with every board though?
Would just need log rotation and some size or rate limits

[unreal bay]

Had to decode a backtrace this week, and to have that shoved into nvm and displayed/saved next reboot would be next level

[glad mortar]

with SD I meant more just any available flash storage, worst case the internal fat filesystem

[unreal bay]

set a log rotation (30entries), use jsonL, and if ideally check for repeated entries and add 1 to error count

I've gone down the route of boot.json safemode.json and errors.json (code.py)

[glad mortar]

yea I think its different use cases, uart if you want full verbose logging.
Log file more for fatal crashes that are rare and intermittent

I would think about implementing that if you are open for the idea 🙂

[unreal bay]

can they be weird numbers, like 13/47, or tens only?

[turbid hill]

why are the numbers 202 instead of 200 or 48 instead of 47

[timid plover]

interesting 16 bit number ? 0xffff

[turbid hill]

what if you change maxlen to 5

notice first value is now ffff

[unreal bay]

would it not be that if odd rather than even, you flip the polarity at the end and reset find_first

[timid plover]

what's the process when you add a new string to be translated ?

you looked for even ( did you look for odd )

[proper prawn]

Scott, b4 you end, can you please show the ESP32-S3 dual USB in close-up please. I want to order a few. I see some on Amazon.es

[turbid hill]

The board is on adafruit, it's the devkit s3

[timid plover]

timecodes are a fair trade for learning from you and all the Deep Divers

[glad mortar]

thanks for streaming

[turbid hill]

lolin also has a good clone of it with the two ports.

[rapid hornet]

https://www.espressif.com/en/products/devkits

[proper prawn]

Thank you Scott

[turbid hill]

when you change maxlen to 5 you got that at the start

[unreal bay]

fascinating, thanks Scott!

[turbid hill]

bye

[glad mortar]

nice 🙂

have a nice weekend

[rapid hornet]

you too!

[timid plover]

youtube stream seems to be higher quality than what I saw in live

[unreal bay]

twitch was similar, regular blocking/pixelation as it switched down and then restablised. Showed up on code too when it moved

[rapid hornet]

youtube only has 480p now too

1080p should follow later

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 20:00 Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 16:00 Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 00:30 Thursdays
Ask an Engineer - 01:00 Thursdays
John Park's Workshop - 21:00 Thursdays
Deep Dive w/Foamyguy - 22:00 Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 16:00 Saturdays

[smoky island]

I am getting started for the morning now. Doing some initial work on camera photo border effects. You can follow along on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch or YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVjxobdVXd4

[brazen chasm]

heya

[inner spade]

☕

[sand lotus]

good morning ☕ I've been up all night working on a touch driver.

[clever summit]

👋 🇸🇪

I have been maintaining my plant sensors. Swapping batteries, organize the cards in Home Assistant etc. Also ordered seeds for the coming season, I made a Home Assistant integration for the Growcube watering system.

[sand lotus]

Trying to base the touch driver on something you and Jerry Needel did for the stmpe610 (tft featherwing touch driver). Actually found someone that wrote a driver for it last year but it's missing a lot of features compared to your stmpe610 driver... like the auto calibrator script. It's challenging but I'm making progress.

[brazen chasm]

🇸🇪 im trying to do the feed_callback in tandem with a requestt, or fetch on the pyportal. @smoky island fix the blocking last week and im gonna try it

[sand lotus]

XPT2046 touch driver for circuit python. One exists but not a lot of features yet.

[unreal bay]

hey tim + all 👋 We logging data today?

Ah cool, nice. I wanted to sticker my face in photos in a similar vein

[sand lotus]

I think pin 6 might be D10 on most boards

I finished getting my sdcard working with display and touch driver. So I did a lot of breadboarding last night with pin #s specifically for CS pins.

SDcard CS is typically on D5 (tft featherwing), touch is on D6, and TFT CS is usually D10... for ESP32-S2/S3 anyway.

Not always those pins of course, it's just something I've noticed while working with different displays.

are you using the correct toml.setting to setup webworkflow?

yeah I think they changed it in 9.x to something other than we were used to in like 8.3. slightly different naming convention now.

ah nevermind. It's still CIRCUITPY_WIFI_PASSWORD it's just that they added CIRCUITPY_WEB_API_PASSWORD

[inner spade]

Very cool. Building an SPI driver from scratch can be challenging but satisfying. Brian Siepert was my mentor when I first jumped into the driver development pool.

[sand lotus]

I think it has the capability to automatically capture multiple images, so that's kind of like video. Though Jepler is working on UVC video but it doesn't seem to be related to that.

Didn't know wokwi could do stuff like that. Neat.

Registers are determined by the controller chip and the control bytes are in the chip datasheet. All peripherals have a controller chip of some kind usually. You'll have the datasheet open on one monitor and PyCharm on the other. Constantly looking back and forth to correlate the register bytes.

[unreal bay]

famous last words...

[sand lotus]

If a peripheral doesn't have a controller chip and it's raw then you use Seesaw, then Seesaw becomes the controller chip.

Here’s what I’ve been working on all night. Today seems like breadboard day.

Basically made my own featherwing

[inner spade]

Datasheet interpretation makes for a good brain teaser sometimes. I spent a couple of weeks on the NAU7802 and still missed a critical initialization sequence.

[unreal bay]

It's alive! Saw the show and tell pcb design, liked all the jumper / repair points

[sand lotus]

Yes I thought I got the driver working well but there's still something wonky with init because it reloads twice every soft reboot. 😅

Oh the display works great but I didn't test the sdcard or touch. Confirmed sd works, last piece is the touch driver. Can't even get it to print x,y coordinates yet. 😦

Also found out if you have a /sd directory in CIRCUITPY in 8.x it will cause sdcardio to fail. It will say directory already exists. However in 9.x I think they're making /sd a requirement for virtual mounting.

Whenever you do a search in your url address bar you always add a !g, what does that do?

[unreal bay]

Internally, or externally, has there been talk of auto-creating that SD mount folder if required (in v9)?

[sand lotus]

Maybe for duck duck go because I don't see that listed in Google's search operator list.

oh those are nice quick operators. very cool.

[sand lotus]

There's been some discussion during the circuit python meeting about it. That's the only time I've heard it mentioned. No idea on the status of it or how it might affect virtual file system mounts (VFS).

[grand tusk]

Put your import in "/repl.py" (If you have the latest CP build).

[unreal bay]

3k was too small, more like when the transfer was interrupted, possibly other CS called? Does it resume if interrupted?

Yeah this one should work

[sand lotus]

You can setup SPI baudrate ```py
spi = board.SPI()
while not spi.try_lock():
pass
spi.configure(baudrate=24000000) # Configure SPI for 24MHz
spi.unlock()

[unreal bay]

Oh good point, set the spi to max speed of slowest device\

[inner spade]

Recently had a “bad” SD card interfere with the display’s SPI bus. The card worked fine when connected to the desktop via a USB adapter. Swapped the SD card with a new one for the fix.

[sand lotus]

I kept having sdcardio stall and wouldn't play nice sharing the bus with the TFT. I thought it was locking but it actually ended up being poor breadboard wire connections.

[inner spade]

The symptom:

[sand lotus]

bad sd card did that? interesting.

[inner spade]

It made some pixels transparent. It was responding to TFT SPI commands even with its CS pin removed.

[sand lotus]

no timeout errors during writes? can try umount and umount the card after each use.

if you remove an sdcard while it's writing it will definitely corrupt files and/or the card.

Are you initlizing the sdcard before the TFT? With sdcardio it's best practice to do that according to what I've read in git issues.

if it's an Adafruit sd reader then it likely had card detect which will trigger when you remove it.

When in doubt add print statements everywhere.

that's a great question. i have no idea.

definitely smaller file size than last time

I've been up all night/morning. I'm done for the day. 💤

[unreal bay]

isn't that success

okay, larger please, more bytes

If you wack up the SPI rate then you may suffer less, but can use more than one spi too

[strong acorn]

memento uses SCK and MOSI https://cdn-learn.adafruit.com/assets/assets/000/126/630/original/adafruit_products_schem.png?1702564877 so may be some TFT / SD conflict if that's what's connected to adalogger

[inner spade]

Yes, the TFT and SD share the bus.

[strong acorn]

lower left SD: same SCK and MOSI

[unreal bay]

bottom left across one, SD + MMC label

[inner spade]

Schematic Page 2 showing the camera isn’t included in the guide. I filed an errata earlier for that.

Glad you took this approach. Good example for how to build your own camera using breakout boards while taking advantage of the work done on the Memento code.

photo_bitmap.palette ?

[unreal bay]

its not, adafruit boards are adafruit prefixed, FeatherS2 is an Unexpected Maker board

[inner spade]

Or photo_bitmap.pixel_shader ?

Excellent stream. Thanks!

[unreal bay]

Thanks Tim

[open girder]

Desk of Ladyada - Flippin' Floppin' Happily Rockin' https://youtu.be/-BVE0cEJSvU
Floppsy board work, restoring hardware and integrating Adafruit_Floppy examples for mass-storage mode. Then - we aim for disk writing and Apple Disk ][ support, requiring hardware additions and support for 'hacked' disks with an external sensor.

[tulip kestrel]

apple floppy feather wing!

[gray obsidian]

thought I missed 90min but then I re-read… 90s ago 😄

[sand lotus]

Now installing Apple OS7, please insert disk 2 of 20.

[shell mason]

nice scotch

https://tenor.com/view/c64-christmas-xmas64-commodore-mug-gif-19517511

i still have casette drive for c64

[sand lotus]

Users her power of her optical sensors to find what you need on digikey.

[gray obsidian]

Well, in theory the existing sensor you can mount as SMD on the border of the PCB… like with D-Sub connectors

probably not easy to batch manufacture though

[sand lotus]

If the legs are long enough with a vertical sensor couldn't you just bend the legs 90 degrees?

ah but manufacturing with pick and place would require physical intervention

[tulip kestrel]

how old is your little one?

[viral sail]

Thanks and good night.

[shell mason]

great one

[sand lotus]

Thank you for the episode. Hope you feel better can definitely tell you're a little under the weather. 🤗

[gray obsidian]

Thanks!

[sand lotus]

Didn't know you were live streaming. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl5aaFtQRCk

On RGB colorspaces too. neat!

oof MP core coding. Any time I see MP or QSTR I immediately know whatever you're doing is probably over my head.

This is all for camera borders? I would just create 2 rectangles in displayio then use bitmap saver. ohhhh you can't because they're jpgs? welp, GL sir. 🫡

That sounds like a PyCharm thing. With Notepad++ it will recognize if a file is closed and ask you if you want to keep that file open or close it. A nice feature of Notepad++.

looks like blue and red are swapped?

if there is no blue then the pink color is closer. actually looks like the absence of blue. the pinks are exactly the same. one is almost purple and the other is more fuschia.

i'm just going off the colors i'm seeing on your monitor, not the values.

[sand lotus]

correct me if I'm wrong but this is because someone wrote the swap function but not an unswap? for 565 i think you mentioned something like that in discord chat the other day.

Cpython is like a weird mashup of C and Python. looks so weird.

seeing void's and printf's in the same function makes me twitch a little. it's just weird.

it's always useful to convert from a to b then b to a... it helps to confirm everything is working right. hearing that it only works one way just made something like this an eventuality.

yeah i had an errand to run and back. this is the first time i'm ever seeing copilot used too. interested in seeing how that's used.

i've used openai/chatgpt to help write a driver so i'm not as oppose to ai help anymore. it works ok-ish.

well done 👏

[inner spade]

Shift the second by five to put it back where it was

[sand lotus]

if you're off by 1 then CGrovers advice seems valid. try 5 and see if it shifts the 1 out to a 0

That was extremely satisfying. Watching someone figure out bit shifting and confirming the binary is far more satisfying than I thought it would be.

[inner spade]

I spent a few years writing machine language and can occasionally think in binary.

[sand lotus]

I've never had any interest in actually learning binary to the point of being able to read it without a converter... but I'm starting to see why people are attracted to it.

[inner spade]

Can co-pilot optimize the resultant function code as well? Perhaps more friendly than pylint?

[sand lotus]

Interesting thought. Maybe co-pilot could be a linter in the future?

the rabbit hole demands a sacrifice

[inner spade]

Got to head out now. Fun thought process. Will have to catch the remainder of the stream later on-demand.

[sand lotus]

Can always pick up later after getting a clear head. Think I'm going to head out too. Great stream!

[unreal bay]

got a lot of nice looking images in that folder 😉

does that colour difference mean it's like BGr rather than rgb?

(only half following along)

like GBR instead or something, bizarre

Thanks Tim

[haughty quiver]

hi all!

[viral sail]

Good afternoon. ❄️

[inner spade]

Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care? 🎵

[haughty quiver]

haha

[cinder wind]

RTC Breakdance board ? Awesome, I love that band

[haughty quiver]

🤖

[sand lotus]

Now I have to go look up what truffle oil is really made of.

[cinder wind]

This board is for real time, not that fake time stuff

[vagrant flax]

Oh man half price for these boards is a steal 😮

[sand lotus]

Stewart or McAvoy these timelines are confusing.

You can always use stemma qt modules with pretty much any microcontroller by using stemma to dupont wire adapter cable. https://www.adafruit.com/product/4209

[split gazelle]

would you say it looks sharp?

[tulip canyon]

This example to set RTC with NTP is super handy as well
https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_NTP/blob/main/examples/ntp_set_rtc.py

[sand lotus]

Sharp displays have their own SharpMemory Framebuffer, neat.

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-side-dark-helmet-spaceballs-drink-gif-17050149

[sand lotus]

How often would it really need to be resync'd with something like an NTP sync?

[vagrant flax]

@sand lotus Not often, these things are extremely precise

[split gazelle]

Used the same breakout for the talking Adabot clock too (it’s my favorite rtc)

[shell mason]

lars drinking coffee on that gif must be

very sharp display

[sand lotus]

ah the example uses adafruit_ntp, that's nice.

[vagrant flax]

I've used both these and the PCF8523 extensively and unlike the PCF8523 these really don't lose time at all

the PCF8523 tends to end up a few seconds fast/slow depending on temperature and other variables

[echo canopy]

Question—— The SQL pin as an #interrupt … wild it just do a super short millisecond pulse that you can read ?

[viral sail]

Thanks @haughty quiver

[lyric frost]

Thanks JP 😁

[sand lotus]

It has a temp sensor inside to keep the crystal at the proper heat so cold weather doesn't affect it. That wouldn't apply to me though. 🏖️

[unreal bay]

about 5seconds per month

[echo canopy]

Thanks JP

[vagrant flax]

Thanks @haughty quiver!

[haughty quiver]

thank you @unreal bay !

[unreal bay]

thank you 🙂

[tulip canyon]

Thanks JP - See you next "TIME"

[sand lotus]

Thanks JP, picked up 2. 🕐

[inner spade]

Thanks! The time just flew by.

[haughty quiver]

heh

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/time-delorean-mcfly-clock-gif-9780791

[gusty wedge]

I came a bit late to the stream, but Adam is livestreaming about splitting diatoms with a focus ion beam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_VBNmXXvc4

(I think it's comming to an end 😦 )

[hard hollow]

☕ ⚡ 👋

[upbeat coral]

Hey Y'll

[sand lotus]

Good morning ☕

[lavish patrol]

Good afternoon all. 👋

[rocky reef]

3DHangouts Episode 431 LIVE! Digital Clock, Camera Bot and Blobtopus https://www.youtube.com/adafruit/live Today's coupon code “clocktime” gets you 10% off your order! https://www.youtube.com/adafruit/live

[viral sail]

Good morning everyone.

[vagrant flax]

Good morning

[viscid bolt]

Good morning

[rocky reef]

https://www.adafruit.com/free

[vagrant flax]

Time to build a clock 😏

[upbeat coral]

AM

[lavish patrol]

It's 4:04pm here...

4:05 in fact

[vagrant flax]

Very slick and professional-looking

[sand lotus]

The precision of the RTC sold me. I got 2 of them to experiment with.

diffuse

[vagrant flax]

they also hide the unlit segments really nicely

yeah those filters are a necessity

[lavish patrol]

I have an internet clock. It's fine. It only accesses the internet once a day, and just keeps time in between. 👍

[sand lotus]

You can get non-skid rubber feet that accept an M3 screw that can be used with M3 heat inserts. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B082YL8T1F/

[rocky reef]

DS3231 RTC STEMMA QT
https://www.adafruit.com/product/5188

Learn Guide:
https://learn.adafruit.com/digital-clock-with-circuitpython/

3D Parts Library on GitHub -
https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CAD_Parts

[sand lotus]

exploded view animations are always so satisfying to watch.

[rocky reef]

https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_Learning_System_Guides

[sand lotus]

If Liz can figure out Mars time then Earth time would be no problem for her. 👍

Yesterday during JP's show the RTC was half off but Adafruit was out of stock of that coin cell battery. I'd never heard of a CR1220 before. https://www.adafruit.com/product/380

[vagrant flax]

yeah clock UI was not very good in the past!

Rotary encoder is definitely a lot simpler and more intuitive

[viral sail]

The biggest pain about digital clocks was always that the hours/minutes could only be set forward. If it was fast by a minute, you had to press the minute button 59 times to reset it.

[lavish patrol]

Changing clocks is one of my pet hates.

[vagrant flax]

Rotary encoders (especially ones with a button) are very versatile for lots of things really

one of my favorite tactile controls

[sand lotus]

Biggest issue with adding a PIR sensor on the bottom is due to the angle of the display. There's even less room with an angled display.

[upbeat coral]

Does it bother anybody that the primo tech of the day just a few short years ago, is now so confusing to us?

[lavish patrol]

Lol

[sand lotus]

Those specific rubber feet have just the right hole diameter for M3 screws. Just heat insert an M3 threaded insert and the feet screw right in.

[vagrant flax]

awesome

incidentally I get my adabox in the mail today 👀

[sand lotus]

that is cool, great design.

Is there a guide on doing this with Circuit Python and AdafruitIO or currently only for WipperSnapper?

[vagrant flax]

I really love the mounting slots

I don't know the name of the aesthetic but it's very raw with the exposed cables and everything (I love it)

[sand lotus]

The 2500mah is the biggest single cell dichromatic lipo Adafruit carries. Looks like it would fit in the top compartment no problem.

[lavish patrol]

Dichromatic?

[vagrant flax]

ah yeah that's very appropriate

[sand lotus]

yeah 6600 is the dual 18650 and that would be really thick cylinder, doubt it would fit.

[lavish patrol]

Blobtopus looks scared...

Seven tentacles would make it a Septopus 🤔

[vagrant flax]

the legs version is killing me 😂

[lavish patrol]

Me too.

The would be a Duopus...

[rocky reef]

Blobtopus By Entroisdimensions_figurine
https://cults3d.com/:1762570
https://youtu.be/WCAywqaxUNA

https://www.printables.com/model/7163-dodecahedron/comments/1536883#preview-comment

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6479821

https://www.printables.com/model/762559-heat-set-insert-press-pinecil-clamp-remix

https://cults3d.com/en/3d-printing/star-trek-communicator

[vagrant flax]

oooh that communicator is awesome

[sand lotus]

Nails for hinges is a neat idea.

[vagrant flax]

would be cool to have a LoRa version of something like this too

could sent text and bloops and bleeps to each other

[sand lotus]

New Fona will be LTE perhaps according to what I saw on AAE.

[rocky reef]

https://adafruit-playground.com/u/squid_jpg/pages/custom-ano-fidget-firmware

[vagrant flax]

Oh! I updated the rainbow particle mode to have a motion blur now too 😄

[sand lotus]

The accelerator is really neat. Well done squid.jpg!

[vagrant flax]

a late addition lol

@sand lotus Thank you! 😄

[sand lotus]

That thing is feature packed. 👏

[lavish patrol]

Noice.

[vagrant flax]

Thanks for showing it on your fidget toy, I haven't been able to see it yet! 😄

Oh you might already have the latest and I'm just blind 😂

[lavish patrol]

Great show, guys. 👍

[vagrant flax]

Thanks for the show, super fun as always!

[lavish patrol]

JP's Workshop, AKA the Lars Zone.

[viral sail]

Thanks @rocky reef & @hard hollow

[upbeat coral]

Thank you for taking time for us.

[sand lotus]

Thank you for the show.

[lavish patrol]

Bye all. 👋

[hard hollow]

thanks folks! cya tonight

[rocky reef]

thanks so much for hanging out

[split gazelle]

here is the link to join show and tell: https://streamyard.com/r4nwe68tx6

[upbeat coral]

Hey Y'll

[tulip canyon]

👋

[haughty quiver]

hi!

[rapid hornet]

👋

[inner spade]

👋

[cinder wind]

yay thanks Scott!

[sand lotus]

Nice high density strip. 👍

[rapid hornet]

esp32 will now run CP on the second core too

https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/pull/8920

[cinder wind]

ooo! can we pick which core runs on which code? 🙂

[sand lotus]

Very nice Trevor. App looks like a nice extension of wippersnapper.

Diatoms in coffee filters? I hear filter I think coffee.

Oh wow nicely done. Nanoprobes next on the menu?

[dawn bear]

@steep pilot Love the furry friend. Was the cat the source of the mute? 😄

Let the kitty paw with it. 🙂

[sand lotus]

Hmm can wled work with hub75 matrix panels?

[dawn bear]

🐈

[upbeat coral]

Thank you to all for sharing

[tulip canyon]

Thanks Liz, thanks all for sharing

[sand lotus]

Thank you everyone for neat projects and Liz for hosting.

[haughty quiver]

thanks @split gazelle ! thanks Showers/Tellers!

[split gazelle]

thanks folks!

[open girder]

ASK AN ENGINEER 2/14/2024 LIVE! https://youtu.be/9d8tg5UZqGU

10% discount code, code is: neorgb http://www.adafruit.com ends at midnight NYC time

[drowsy inlet]

hello all

[delicate fractal]

Does US' Presidents Day always line up with Canada's Family Day?

[dim knot]

https://adabox.com/

[vagrant flax]

Just got my Adabox today 😄

[gray obsidian]

Whenever Canada joins the US it's gonna become Presidents Family Day?

[vagrant flax]

It's way too cool to spoil

[delicate fractal]

It could be Family President's Day.

[vagrant flax]

I've been 25 for nearly 20 years 😌

[gray obsidian]

Oh, me as well 🙂

[delicate fractal]

Turns out the answer is yes! Third Monday of February is how they're both defined.

[gray obsidian]

Retro FTW!

[rotund marsh]

ok to ask Engineer question here?

[sand lotus]

yes but they don't answer them until the end of the show

[drowsy inlet]

oh man, those yawns are contagious even over internet 🥱

[gray obsidian]

I still have to use my Google Cardboard™… Someday I'll have an ordiphone that fits in.

[sand lotus]

Josef Prusa does that for 3D printing chats

[dim knot]

https://blog.adafruit.com/2024/02/06/four-raspberry-pi-alternatives-for-2024-digitaltrends/

[sand lotus]

If they can all load Linux then they can load Blinka. 😉

[gray obsidian]

Which are 5V-compatible? I know, it's a gimmick, but with retro stuff…

I guess none

I wonder if a Cranberry Pie would boot with a loud rock tune… 🎵

[turbid hill]

I have the Potato board, it works real well, I also have the EEMC module for the potato that works well.

[gray obsidian]

Oh well it's the same with larger boards back then with U-Boot… everyone forked U-Boot and never upstreamed (it wasn't upstreamable anyway)

[turbid hill]

We used the Ornage Pi5+ at work to do 8K video streaming

[gray obsidian]

Wait, are we live? 😄

[turbid hill]

yes

Live as in we are consuming Oxygen

[open girder]

10% discount code, code is: neorgb http://www.adafruit.com ends at midnight NYC time

[dim knot]

https://learn.adafruit.com/guides/latest

[sand lotus]

FoamyGuy's cyberdeck editor really piqued my interest. Pushing new boundaries and features for Circuit Python.

[haughty quiver]

I'll remake this video now that we're locking the exposure/gain/WB, but here's a video example of rack focus w MEMENTO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5nHqYCt_S4

[sand lotus]

Why did Liz make a sushi conveyor belt? Because she can. Exploring what you're capability of is a never ending journey.

Is it possible to make a DIY solder flow at home? Asking for a friend who's really into PCB's. 😅

[tulip kestrel]

can you make the memento take multilabel picks from far focus to close focus and have circuitpython combine all the picks to a full focus picture?

[sand lotus]

Pretty sure that was the focus of JP's workshop last week. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z39pIQFds2Y

[delicate fractal]

I'm sure I've seen a few DIY reflow ovens on Youtube. You can, for example, hook an arduino up to a thermocouple and a relay and control the temp of a toaster oven pretty easily.

You could probably use the heated bed of a 3D printer too.

[sand lotus]

I know you can reflow with a toaster but I'm just enamored by how beautiful the solder flow machine is. Like a solder fondue fountain.

[haughty quiver]

No, I had MEMENTO shoot all the frames to SD card, then use computer or online app do the focus stacking

[sand lotus]

Oh they were asking if it was all done on the memento... not yet anyway.

[tulip kestrel]

but his uses outside software to do it. my idea uses python to focus stacking without needing to removing the sd card and edit on pc

[delicate fractal]

Is that a lack of implementation of the algorithm, too little memory, or just brutally slow to do in the onboard CPU?

[haughty quiver]

You could probably use the bitmaptools library in CircuitPython to do a split diopter shot right on the MEMENTO

@delicate fractal it is a very involved process that can take a few minutes on a powerful desktop computer

trying to do focus stacking on a microcontroller it would wimper and smoke a bit and then burst into flames

[haughty quiver]

all of the above I think

Although IIRC @cinder wind may have implemented focus stacking on a microcontroller in the past for purposes of Mars data collection

[gray obsidian]

"We made a minuscule connector, but please add four larger levers in the corners" 😅

[sand lotus]

Aww but it doesn't have blue feet but still keep the blue footed birdie.

[dim knot]

Espressif ESP32-S3-BOX-3B https://www.adafruit.com/product/5883

[vagrant flax]

Oooooh a really nice tiny WLED board

[dim knot]

Adafruit ItsyBitsy ESP32 - wFL Antenna - 8 MB Flash / 2 MB PSRAM
PRODUCT ID: 5890 https://www.adafruit.com/product/5890

Adafruit ItsyBitsy ESP32 - PCB Antenna - 8 MB Flash / 2 MB PSRAM https://www.adafruit.com/product/5889

Pink Anti-Static Zip Top Bag - 2" x 3.5" - 100 Pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/5881

Flora RGB Smart NeoPixel version 3 - Sheet of 20 https://www.adafruit.com/product/1559

Adafruit NeoRGB Stemma - NeoPixel to RGB PWM LEDs and Strips - STEMMA JST PH 2mm https://www.adafruit.com/product/5888

[merry gulch]

??? How do you measure pulse width and cycle time of a digital signal? Like the frequency and duty cycle of a PWM signal. Can it be done with a RPi and python? Or is this something for a micro? What is the interface type for that kind of input? Want to read the values programmatically rather than use an oscilloscope scope or DVM. ???

[echo canopy]

Question @open girder

ItsyBitsy ESP32

What is the voltage range on the BAT pin, possible to power it with 3x AA or AAA ? 4.5ish volts for on the go ?

[delicate fractal]

Meshtactic is a LORA thing

[rotund marsh]

Question @open girder, does Adafruit have something that can efficiently limit current
to stop 'stalled' servos drawing too much current?

Would prefer them to stall weakly or temporarily stop. Am fixing my shoddy code, will use enable pin more aggressively. But electronics/hardware protection would be good. Should I use Polyfuse, or Current limiting IC, or something else? Got module(s) for this scenario?

Making a servo based wood tile display with 192 servos (12 groups of 16 servos). Managed to burnout mosfets on ~12 knockoff PCA9685 16 channel servo controller boards. Serves me right for not buying Adafruits which comes with beefy mosfet for reverse voltage correction.

The PSU is Meanwell RSP-320-5 maybe that'll auto shutdown if things get wild, I'll check the specs...

https://us2.dh-cdn.net/uploads/db5587/original/3X/1/6/166258aed4ae3170d4eae52a357213a54a0dbc82.gif

Uploaded 60 sec short to https://youtube.com/shorts/FOoa_OAFeZs?si=K3-5_LAAlbB21x-5 code/design shared on github

Cheers!

[sand lotus]

Had to look it up, that's the diagram on their site. Sounds just like LORA network really.

[echo canopy]

You had a desk of ladyada on Sunday .. just a “fun” question did you watch the Super Bowl? Or busy with shop stuff ??

Thanks

[haughty quiver]

I watched, what a great game

[rotund marsh]

Thank you for the advice!

[merry gulch]

Thanks

[upbeat coral]

Thank you for taking time for us.

[crisp trench]

🖤

[gray obsidian]

n8 everyone!

[tulip canyon]

Thanks Adafruit, have a great week all

[vagrant flax]

Thanks for the show!

[sand lotus]

Thank you for a happy valentine AAE ❤️

[haughty quiver]

bye!

[tulip kestrel]

what is zinner

[gray obsidian]

Zener

[sand lotus]

pun on zener diode and moment of zen

which I think Jon Stewart ended his Daily Show's with "here's your moment of zen".

[inner spade]

👋

[lavish patrol]

👋 😀

[drowsy inlet]

hello all

[sand lotus]

good evening ☕

[tulip canyon]

Hello all

[viral sail]

Good afternoon.

[dawn bear]

Hi From Los Angeles.

[haughty quiver]

Hey there all!

[clever summit]

🇸🇪 👋

[split gazelle]

hiiiiii

[cinder wind]

a crouton code?

I love croutons

[lavish patrol]

I see Lars has got a friend...

[sand lotus]

We poppin 🍿

[lavish patrol]

The are two @clever summits...

[sand lotus]

electric lederhosen?

[lavish patrol]

Lol

[viral sail]

Zeiss planetarium projector?

[sand lotus]

brangelina

[cinder wind]

SLARPPY?

[lavish patrol]

That's funny and frightening in equal measure...

[sterile forge]

blaupunkt radio

[lavish patrol]

John Plars?

[sand lotus]

now we have swelce with taylor swift and travis kelce.

[lilac tusk]

or kelift

[sand lotus]

if i buy 100 little baggies i feel like some agency is gonna flag and visit me.

[drowsy inlet]

erin has some cool light projects

that wooly wall was neat

[cinder wind]

JP got a whole planetarium, not just a single projector

[drowsy inlet]

audio looks good here

[lavish patrol]

Audio's fine here.

[sand lotus]

it was just that 1 day, things were a little off last week.

[dawn bear]

All is fine

[sand lotus]

caveat, keypad library might not work with some multiplexers like the mcp23017.

[viral sail]

You can ID plants by doing a Google image search.

[sand lotus]

stamen and pistil, i would like to thank my 3rd grade teacher for making me remember that information that i never thought i needed, until today.

It's mind blowing with the stacking technique how much quality of an image the memento is capable of.

[cinder wind]

"Get a free class in Photography by reading Learn Guides and building electronics projects"

[lavish patrol]

Lol. A bit early for Halloween...

[sand lotus]

I honestly didn't know about these photography techniques, very informative.

[lavish patrol]

Does the Memento report on its lens status, i.e. focus?

[muted oasis]

I'm getting a lot of vertical banding artifacts in the pictures from the memento (I loaded up the fancy camera circuitpy code) - anyone else? Is that a software or hardware problem?

[cinder wind]

I think it's just a low-light problem. These are like old webcam sensors

[lavish patrol]

Aha. I see it does. 👍

[sand lotus]

that can sometimes happen if there's a light source pointing towards the camera almost like a lens flare but sometimes the sensor just can't figure out what to do and you can get lines. that's happened on some of the first digital cameras since the 90's.

[tulip canyon]

For advanced depth imagery check out Photoshop Neural Filters > Depth Blur
You can achieve some really cool results including exporting depth mattes

[shell mason]

las memento weatch there

[sand lotus]

if the banding is always in the same place in every photograph then that would be a potential hardware issue.

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/light-dance-spin-choreograph-gif-7965337

[unreal bay]

I'd love to see panorama mode, with just the edge detection of previous frame edge, then do the real work on pc, but I did look briefly for embedded panorama stiching😅

[glass stag]

Howdy all.

JP is the best part of my Thursday.

[sand lotus]

I don't think a microcontroller would be powerful enough to stich multiple images together. not yet anyway even with an S3. definitely a photoshop type of project.

[tulip canyon]

Bracketing and HDR photography would be neat with Memento

[cinder wind]

Modern phones & cameras do so much with their secret on-device de-noise algorithms that we think we're getting these clean images when really it's all magic

[lavish patrol]

Yep.

[sand lotus]

the processors in phones are like 1000x more powerful than a microcontroller for graphics.

I 3D printed a little box for SD cards. Designed by the Ruiz Brothers. https://www.printables.com/model/468639-print-in-place-box-for-sd-cards

[lavish patrol]

Lars and Slappy look like they've just come back from lunch.

Slappy had too much coffee.

[cinder wind]

hehehe

[unreal bay]

So I was watching foamyguy streaming about the pycamera library and using breakout for the OV5640 (camera with optional autofocus), possibly due to not having the momento, and I believe it's the same camera as momento, so in theory could people theoretically use that breakout camera module (with a metro esp32s3 to avoid compatibility questions) for this learn guide and have the same camera control (assuming we swap the manual / auto-focus firmware.bin in the camera)... https://www.adafruit.com/product/5838 (120* auto) or https://www.adafruit.com/product/5840 (72* auto).

[shell mason]

Lars say I can a take a memento pic of you?

[tulip canyon]

Remember "red-eye reduction" that used to strobe your eyes with blinding blinks before taking the pic? lol

[lavish patrol]

I like the cool white, warm white mix.

My grandfather had one of those.

[tulip canyon]

I've got a Rollei

[cinder wind]

of course all old technology has to have what looks like a reactor chamber

[tulip canyon]

What size negatives?

A grain magnifyer is critical for sharp enlargements

[gaunt plume]

this is an incredible setup to tune into

[glass stag]

Where does the SD card go, or is it over WiFi? 😆

[lavish patrol]

Lol

[gaunt plume]

Feel like I sometimes tune into JP Workshop and I understand what's going on but wow am I intrigued now

[lavish patrol]

This is JP's Workshop, 1950's edition...

[cinder wind]

JP got himself an "enlarger" and we're all daring him to put his fingers on it to get really big fingers

[lavish patrol]

Lol

[viral sail]

I'm curious what type of lamp that uses, and if it's something that's easily replaceable.

[lavish patrol]

Probably one of those halogen lamps.

[glass stag]

Too bad it wasn't a shrinker-copier. I wouldn't mind some tiny JP's to keep in my pocket for emergencies.

[viral sail]

That's a nice piece of analog photo tech.

[tulip canyon]

Mine uses a pretty common PH140

[lavish patrol]

Edison screw.

[glass stag]

It was probably originally a lead-mercury-asbestos bulb that would last 100years,

[unreal bay]

Does it not need cooling for the light hitting the slide?

[lavish patrol]

35mm

[unreal bay]

oh wow, that's good

[tulip canyon]

you may be able to get a larger carrier. That looks 135

If you shoot 120 you can get 6x6 or 6x9

[viral sail]

Thanks @haughty quiver . Have a great weekend everyone.

[tulip canyon]

Thanks JP

[lavish patrol]

Another great workshop, @haughty quiver 👍

[inner spade]

Thanks!

[glass stag]

Awesome stream.

[shell mason]

nice stream

[unreal bay]

just realised 5mins behind live 🤦‍♂️ thanks JP

[lavish patrol]

Bye all. 👋

[haughty quiver]

thank you all for hanging out!

[sand lotus]

Thanks for the show.

[dawn bear]

Anyone home?

[sinful meadow]

good morning

[dawn bear]

Looks good in LA

It is not as bad as last time... you are freezing a tad

It's like a second or 2 freeze

[nova totem]

You're freezing here and there, audio seems fine so far

[timid plover]

greetings divers

[dawn bear]

Hi everyone!

👋

DIVERS? LOL

[sinful meadow]

🤿

[eager matrix]

Hi Scott. I hope all is well or even better that all is wonderful.

[dawn bear]

Do all controllers come with bent pins?

😄

[brazen grove]

oink!

[dawn bear]

Do you wind up having to deprecate older boards? Or say version X is the last for this controller?

I suppose I could figure that out

[timid plover]

are closed captions unavailable to others ? not seeing it on youtube

[dawn bear]

Yes they are off

[timid plover]

no worry 🙂

[shell mason]

deepDivers 👋

[timid plover]

encrustify ?

uncrustify

oh - https://github.com/uncrustify/uncrustify ?

you had been testing pulsio the other week, right?

[sand lotus]

The audio continues but the video freezes for a second or two. So it's more likely video issue. No audio artifacts only video.

[timid plover]

it is great that your filing system is working well

do they go into the boot loader

[sand lotus]

ahh the old beep codes, don't miss those at all.

[timid plover]

where is the decode line number algorithm ?

[sand lotus]

they might be nice for breadboarding but if they're in an enclosure then they're pointless.

yup, the green, yellow, red is actually more informative. if there's a problem you're going to bring up repl anyway.

[lyric frost]

I've got one of those backup folders on my desktop, I never ever go back to it :/

[sand lotus]

i've found it useful to sort like circuitpython github ports/boards is sorted. i have to remember which board i used for each project though.

floating edges causing a hard fault. bit weird.

[lyric frost]

Maybe add a blink into the code to be sure it's running

[timid plover]

was any information from the crash captured ( oh backtrace? )

[sand lotus]

was the bug verified by a 2nd person?

floating issue could be caused by bad soldering or microfractures. ah ok.

[twilit steeple]

Hi Scott , appreciate these deep dives you do every week. I have a question that is off-topic , but still circuit python related. Hope it is okay to raise it here in the chat. I noticed that the esp-c3 modules don't have the alarm module implemented (and hence things like deep sleep is not possible). Is there a particular reason for this (xtensa vs risc-V) or had it just not been ported yet ?

Thanks for clarifying. Maybe this would get my feet wet on the c side of circuit python.

I did one of them recently

🙂

[sand lotus]

Adafruit also carries them. It's where I got mine. 🙂

I've yet to take it out of the box but just having the tool available is better than not if I want to do a low power project. Anything solar you pretty much need a PPK.

you said tc index but wrote tx index did you mean to do that?

[lyric frost]

If two deinit's are called in a row?

is it unsigned?

0 decremented = 255

[sand lotus]

ah the joys of programming where -1 = 255. My 3rd grade teacher would have never agreed to that one.

[lyric frost]

Dinner Bell, I'll have to catch the solution on youtube later. Thanks for this 😄

[timid plover]

I know CP doesn't support user code in RP2040 core1 ( but have you had to debug C code with gdb in core1 ? )

thanks - you probably didn't have to run two gdbs at the same time ?

[sand lotus]

I have more projects that require stability that I'm still working on daily. I was big into experimenting with 8.x alpha's and beta's but not as much for 9.x this time.

[timid plover]

are you watching the clock ? 🙂

we are here for you 🙂

actually stepping away is productive

I try

[sand lotus]

wait is there going to be a test?

[timid plover]

something to look forward to improving the quality of the code!

[sand lotus]

🍝

thank you for the stream.

[shell mason]

have a great weekend

[sand lotus]

🏃 enjoy your run and have a great weekend everyone.

[timid plover]

bye all

[smoky island]

I am getting starte dfor the morning now carrying on with photo manipulation project. You can follow allong on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch or YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMlf78__Mfg

[proper prawn]

Hi Tim

[sand lotus]

Just woke up, got my ☕ . Beautiful morning past, present, and future Tim.

[grand tusk]

Hey Howdy!

[sand lotus]

Can also be pronounced Meme NTO

[rigid crag]

oh - being able to overlay date/time info and maybe a watermark or logo -- that sounds awesome

[sand lotus]

Yes acronym, was a joke because it has the word meme in it.

Which I didn't realize either that it wasn't momento until you said something. Seeing the word meme in it is an easier way to remember how to spell it.

[inner spade]

☕

[rigid crag]

understood - the amount of processing to do transparency live would be tough

[sand lotus]

Opaque timestamps is fine. Most of the first cameras that had timestamp overlays were opaque. It wasn't until the late 90's that transparency started being applied to timestamps.

[rigid crag]

right - but isn't most text in CP land a bitmap?

now I want to get one of these - didn't think I had a need...

[sand lotus]

depends on what you're trying to do but yeah usually with custom fonts they're going to be bitmaps with bitmap_font and imageload library.

the feature that sold me was onion skinning for stop animation and JP's image stacking. the quality of image it's capable of with image stacking technique is mind blowing and they're not trivial 720p quality... they can get up to 2K quality.

oh this one is fresh out of the box. nice, we'll get to see the entire install process.

yes web flasher is Chrome only feature. Web Serial is only on Chrome currently.

there was an issue with an incorrectly named UF2

was pulling from esp32-s3_camera instead of camera_esp32-s3 or something like that.

possible it's related to that, it was like that for about a week, it's been fixed so current downloads should work.

you can upload the file and then click erase, the bin file will stay in the upload section. as long as you do erase before program is all that matters.

i've never seen an instance where i've needed to use all 4 upload slots, curious what use case that's for.

if you haven't installed it before then what camera did you use to take the picture of your hand and lego for the border and colorspace stuff? you did borders before even having the camera setup it was intended for? that's impressive itself.

ahh ok nicely done

the camera has a lot of different image sizes it can do. will need a way to make the borders dynamic. i'll assume you've done that with a height/width thing?

Memento has 8 MB Flash, 2 MB PSRAM + built-in SD Card.

2K images can be rather large, curious what the largest image file size will be.

it can also take sequential images automatically. might have a timer before picture feature too?

most adafruit sd readers have a card detect feature. it's on pins 7 or 8 on the physical sd card reader. i've been working with sd card readers lately and had to trace the physical pins.

card detect is a physical pin so the pcb it's on has to be routed to a gpio to be useful... which most adafruit pcb's do use this feature. it takes an extra gpio pin on your board but it's worth it in my opinion. it's how most sd card projects will come back and say "No SD Card" if it detects nothing plugged in.

[inner spade]

https://learn.adafruit.com/memento-wireless-remote

[sand lotus]

TouchOSC. JP had an entire workshop on it.

I think 2 weeks ago.

[rigid crag]

OSC is a midi transfer/translation(?) protocal

[sand lotus]

JP's Workshop 1/18/2024 Wireless Camera Control https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_E0T3JaWgs

[rigid crag]

it's analgous to ZeroMQ or MQTT

[sand lotus]

Ruiz Brothers also have a project where they upload the image to AdafruitIO

I didn't even know AdafruitIO was capable of receiving images. They used it for a wireless doorbell that notifies them on their phone when it's used. Brent is also working on facial detection for WipperSnapper. Yeah the Memento is WipperSnapper compatible too.

If it's 9.x it might require /sd folder but 8.x no

Yeah you installed 9.x beta it should require /sd directory.

[rigid crag]

ZeroMQ is UDP, MQTT is TCP (HTTP)

[sand lotus]

🤣

nice thing about jpg's is the compression. glad to see it's small.

I think beta 0 is the latest, might actually help if you use an alpha? i haven't heard of anyone having these kinds of issues.

it can if it's pre-compiled and on Arduino not on Circuit Python yet. Only circuit python doom was a halloween gif of "have you checked your kids candy for doom" and philb put an s3 tft feather inside a 3d printed candybar.

[rigid crag]

doom has indeed been run on an ESP32 (Arduino) - https://www.hackster.io/naveenbskumar/yes-arduino-nano-esp32-can-play-doom-ccfde1

[sand lotus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V_ofcX9cic

This is already looking like a potential bug report if one hasn't been filed yet.

the memeto came out during alpha so most people probably have that loaded. the beta 0 was just released days ago so it's possible there's an issue with beta 0... or sd card sure. remove the sd card?

[sand lotus]

I have a brand new memento I've yet to play with. Can help test.

Mine came with a 0.16 bootloader, only had to load the beta 0.

It came preloaded with something and I wiped it. 🤦 Now my circuitpy drive has a blank code.py

loading beta 0 wiped it to a factory state

ah ok. i thought it ran on circuitpython by default.

I'm downloading and installing the basic camera project bundle. https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-memento-camera-board/basic-camera

It refuses to take a picture without an sd card inserted anyway.

hmm it's not detecting my sd card which i was using with a tft featherwing. :/

oh the sd dir

creating the sd dir and still not detecting the card :/

was just my sd card, seems like i corrupted while doing a project on the tft featherwing. reformated with sd formatter and working in the memento now.

the camera bundle simpletest works fine in beta 0. anything specific i can help test with now that it's up and running?

[smoky island]

https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-memento-camera-board/basic-camera

[sand lotus]

what should i attempt to change in it just a print or something then save? file save is triggering it?

I've saved 5 times in a row with different changes. Cannot replicate. 😦

I'm not using web workflow though, only usb serial.

my settings.toml is blank, perhaps web workflow related?

have a link to the github issue i can respond to?

I'm using Mu and not getting that issue. Also I'm on windows.

I've soft rebooted about 20 times, no problems. :/

yeah reformat the sd, i had to for it to be happy.

I'm just saying I can't replicate your issue perhaps because I don't use PyCharm terminal or PopOS.

I think the one that used to format Noobs for Raspberry Pi should work too on Linux, can't remember the name of that formatter.

you have to use a0 and a1 with UART for the momento i think

oh didn't know you switched to Ubuntu.

sd card seems most likely, hopefully...

wish you luck, thanks for the stream. it's not all sunshine and rainbows every time. these things happen.

[rigid crag]

thanks for an interesting and entertaining stream @smoky island

[open girder]

Desk of Ladyada - HV UPDI and I2C WDT https://youtu.be/sfbGpmJx3Jw

Focusing on finalizing designs, including the HV UPDI programmer with a 12V booster for high voltage pulses. The non-HV version is already in stock. Revisiting the S-35710 breakout, intended as a low-power sleep chip, but found it works better as a WDT chip. Additionally, explored replacing the classic LM7805 regulator, a staple for electrical engineers, with a 1A or higher current alternative.

[viral sail]

Good evening.

[shell mason]

the great hacker times

[sand lotus]

☕ and pcb design during cold weather is nice

always happy to see more little audio amps

some regulators without heatsinks can be magical just not in the way you want

Nice search. Always learn something new. Have a nice week!

[viral sail]

Thanks and good night. 🌔

[tiny grove]

Everything is a smoke machine if you use it wrong enough.

[waxen bough]

I'll be interested to see how JP's opening screen for today's Product relates to the product...

[inner spade]

👋

[open surge]

good afternoon

[haughty quiver]

haha it mostly doesn't @waxen bough

[split gazelle]

greetings

[viral sail]

Good afternoon.

[viscid bolt]

Happy Tuesday!

[haughty quiver]

@waxen bough unless we consider the possibility of RGB Light Emitting Human Heads

[cinder wind]

words to live by!

[fallow fractal]

i love these

[cinder wind]

could maybe even put text on the neopixel featherwing, with something like this 4x3 font https://fontstruct.com/fontstructions/show/325977/4x3_pixel

[fallow fractal]

oh thats awesome thanks @cinder wind

[open surge]

My first ever project in CircuitPython used a NeoPixel FeatherWing, making me feel nostalgic

[fallow fractal]

i just ordered a whole bunch of these

[viral sail]

Thanks @haughty quiver

[open surge]

thanks JP!

[haughty quiver]

woot @fallow fractal show us if you make some neat stuff with them!

thanks @open surge

[inner spade]

Thanks!

[waxen bough]

I hope it works with this surprise ($9.95) sale:
https://www.adafruit.com/product/3044

[drowsy inlet]

doh! forgot it was tuesday. stupid monday US holidays...

[rocky reef]

3DHangouts Episode 431 LIVE in 20mins! Camera Projects and Stretch Fidgets https://www.youtube.com/adafruit/live Today's coupon code “camerabox” gets you 10% off your order! #3DPrinting

[viral sail]

Good morning everyone.

[upbeat coral]

Hey Y'll