live-broadcast-chat

[gray obsidian]

even more niche

[sand lotus]

Sophy you always do such pretty things. The paint job on that recorder is beautiful. What a great restoration project to tackle and congratulations on getting it working!

[lethal lagoon]

oh nooooo no more cool things i need to collect haha

[open girder]

WE ARE LIVE! ASK AN ENGINEER! https://youtu.be/wr-7YSRxphg

[lethal lagoon]

oh actually i just got very lucky and the case arrived in great condition! just needed a little cleanup, no paint!

[open girder]

10% discount code, code is: metronxp http://www.adafruit.com ends at midnight NYC time

[robust horizon]

@signal spade don't skimp on material too much for your wall organization .. even the weight of "a few scarves" has pulled this PLA all out of shape. It's a wonder it hasn't just pulled itself all the way off the wall tbh

[gray obsidian]

Mind you, I actually looked at 7-colors ePaper displays to put inside crystal cassette boxes for old computers to show the current artwork of the emulator… but they ain't cheap.

@lethal lagoon oh you're on the Fediverse, cool!

[sand lotus]

@robust horizon i was kind of thinking the same thing. snap fit designs might help but it does appear as if the hex's will hold a surprising amount of weight.

[onyx arrow]

Thanks. I printed using PETG and the support comes from teh number of supports in teh middle or bottom or top. Because of the design, each panel supports the other and I have a light-tank hanging off 2 posts with no isue

[robust horizon]

in my design the sections are just 2 mm or 3mm thick (no idea, it's years ago" and are glued with CA glue; the little mating nubs are more or less just to let you get them positioned for gluing. and there's only contact with the wall at the top, so it just goes FLEEEXXXXX

[lethal lagoon]

oooh that is a really cool idea! also would be neat to build a tiny e-ink display into a tape casette housing

[onyx arrow]

Each cell is tapered an an angle so everything hangs with no glue - about 10mm thick

[sand lotus]

there's a tape reel build into the walk mp3erson by JP. worth looking into @lethal lagoon https://learn.adafruit.com/walkmp3rson-personal-mp3-tape-player

[gray obsidian]

They don't come in all sizes, but I think one of the recent models was a good candidate.

[lethal lagoon]

oh yeah @sand lotus that project is so gorgeous!

[dim knot]

Live from the desk of Ladyada https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjF7R1fz_OOXUtaFu7-_D1UCugC8OecKv

[sand lotus]

though if you have actual tape reels would be better to build a clear window to show them. no need for a digital reel. a digital readout would work. i didn't think that one out.

when you contribute some really unique code to github and then chatgpt recommends your own code... you're just like hey, i know that code...

[open girder]

a lot of the code is adafruit_

we are totally OK with that too

[lethal lagoon]

So timely for this episode Desk of Lady Ada for me since I just replaced my caps on my tape recorder! Vintage electronics restoring must be in the air! ❤️

[gray obsidian]

yeah, just like with many tools it have good and bad uses, most problems with those are human biases they amplify, but for things where you control the inputs like here it's a good idea I suppose.

I just removed the caps of one of the LC-IIIs we have at the fablab, as I needed a chip off of it anyway, not sure I have the replacements yet around.

If you want to see people streaming up to 8 hours of old Macintosh recapping and trace repairs due to leaking caps and batteries, look for Mac84 and Branchus Creations on youtube 😅

[robust horizon]

the last time I had to replace a capacitor .. 1980s vintage computer

[onyx arrow]

Awesome ambient smoke 😉

[verbal river]

ooh you got a photo of Sparky

[sand lotus]

+1 for Cyber City Circuits ❤️

[gray obsidian]

RIFA, the frangrance for makers!

[neat geyser]

!!!

[gray obsidian]

I recall someone made a fake poster for a RIFA perfume

[cinder wind]

ooo those depaneling clippers are nice

[neat geyser]

+1000 for Cyber City Circuits 💖

[lethal lagoon]

ooh were those the paper style capacitors?

[cinder wind]

I like the cool smoke effects you got going on there

[nova totem]

If I ever make something in large enough quantities to sell all that information is going to be useful. Maybe one day

[sand lotus]

Joey's been doing awesome stuff, working hard.

[rigid crag]

I wonder if Adafruit would like some of the older computers I have. Kaypro, Compaq luggable, TRS-80's ...

[gray obsidian]

indeed

[sand lotus]

250! Thank you @spring heath for all the hard work you put into it every week. There's a LOT that goes into it.

[gray obsidian]

I suppose space in NYC is not cheap, but you can probably propose anyway!

[sand lotus]

Because it comes from a separate email it's easier to filter the newsletters in to their own folder. Makes it much easier to stay on top of all the new stuff in python hardware.

[nova totem]

720 square, that's crazy size

[delicate fractal]

Martin Blank: Well, you don't know my Python. It's very demanding.
Debi Newberry: "It"? You don't know if it's a boy or a girl?
Martin Blank: I respect its privacy.

[robust horizon]

@lethal lagoon I'm not sure what technology it is, it may have been plastic film

[sand lotus]

Question: Since you recently discovered the octal psram issue does that mean the recent Metro ESP32-S3 N16R8 will only work in qspi mode? It is advertised as having octal psram.

[robust horizon]

@lethal lagoon https://mastodon.sdf.org/@twylo/110873037632234309

so yeah I think it was paper

it failed open and self-extinguished so I think that's technically a "success".

[lethal lagoon]

wow that is an incredibly informative ad! 😁

[lethal lagoon]

yes, well done, paper cap!

[robust horizon]

the name "self-healing" sounds good but I gather it's actually bad.

[dim knot]

https://blog.adafruit.com/2023/08/28/3d-printing-open-source-certifying-hardware-oshwa-api-china-and-more-a-weigh-in-ahead/

[delicate fractal]

JFC. If you're making an open-source thing, IT IS NOT RIPPING OFF.

(yes, I know, preaching to the choir)

[robust horizon]

https://www.se.com/eg/en/faqs/FA406791/ makes it sound like it's good

[sand lotus]

What is not in that list are the new Creality printers using Klipper with Creality Cloud. It's their cloud that is the most concerning (my opinion).

[gray obsidian]

Talking about Naomi Wu, seems she had been kinda silenced by the local gov for some reason, but at least she's ok (seen on Mastodon)

Wait, France is behind? We need to fix this!

Well, Covid happened, maybe they had other unrelated issue?

[open girder]

for us, we used the shutdown to certify 100 of desgins, that was our big boost

[dim knot]

https://learn.adafruit.com/

[cinder wind]

https://tenor.com/view/terminator-terminator2-t1000-heal-no-effect-gif-16879044

[gray obsidian]

good use of the time 👍

[sand lotus]

Recently learned Naomi Wu was responsible for the CR-10 which I'm a big fan of (the printer not specifically Naomi) but was out of my price range. It's better to go big otherwise you'll end up printing diagonally.

[delicate fractal]

I didn't realize she is on Mastodon. Do you know her handle thingy?

[robust horizon]

Melissa made a great improvement to circuitpython's bitmaptools.alphablend for that project. hats off.

[lethal lagoon]

love the adabot clock!

[gray obsidian]

No that was someone else telling. I think the only account for her is abot.

[lethal lagoon]

the little black button on adabots head looks like a tiny top hat

[robust horizon]

awwwww

it does

[sand lotus]

welp, naomi wu's handle is blocked here because of the words in her handle. just look her up i'm sure she'll be easy to find.

[robust horizon]

what do they call footage in metric countries?

[cinder wind]

Poketoes, gotta catch 'em all

[sand lotus]

that just broke my brain a little

[marsh hull]

It's complicated.

[gray obsidian]

Hmm, how did you account for the weight distribution in this? Did you make 10000 rolls to check it's really random? 😄

[robust horizon]

that's so wrong

[delicate fractal]

I think this chart oversimplifies a few things. Woodworking for example. Lumber is imperial, but plywood thickness is metric, for example

[lethal lagoon]

croc toes might give me nightmares haha

[marsh hull]

it's horrifying but I can't look away like that S3 linux build

[delicate fractal]

sorry.

[robust horizon]

I meant the toes

[marsh hull]

me too

[sand lotus]

i think that meme has a translation error using way-bread instead of whey-bread.

[cinder wind]

oo paging CirPy USB host mode to USB-CDC to use this USB modem

[marsh hull]

oh god you're right

[marsh hull]

hang on the plywood at Home Depot is imperial

[delicate fractal]

I'm pretty sure it should be a war crime or somesuch, but then all Canadians would be criminals.

[delicate fractal]

American company. Also, it depends on the plywood. The small thin sheets are in mm. The 4'x8' are full imperial.

[marsh hull]

flexible criminals

[sand lotus]

I prefer not using anything GLONASS because Russia... maybe that's just me.

[marsh hull]

Yes! I forgot when we bought some of that baltic birch for the laser cutter

[ivory kiln]

Q: I'm sorry if I missed if you already said but, do you have any updates on AdaBox? - maybe even a ball park approximation of maybe how soon it might starting back up?

[open girder]

@ivory kiln still planning on resuming this year

a lot of parts were not avail and it's been a tough road, but we're getting close(r)

[cinder wind]

I love that Hayes AT commands still exist in new products in 2023

[lament hound]

Thank you for sharing LadyAda and PT!

[ivory kiln]

Lol, let me guess - the best laid plans of mice & men

[open girder]

everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face - mike tyson quote?

[delicate fractal]

In the year 3023, engineers will be cursing the obscure command language used to configure their FTL communication modules.

[cinder wind]

"Whatever you do, don't send '+++' in your matter stream when transporting back from Alpha Centauri!"

[marsh hull]

https://www.usenix.org/system/files/conference/usenixsecurity18/sec18-tian.pdf

[dim knot]

https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/te-connectivity-amp-connectors/2195873-1/16615625

[alpine cradle]

lurking for any news on RTK 😉

[robust horizon]

somebody used this with their stream deck apparently https://www.instructables.com/Making-Steam-Deck-Completely-Mobile-With-Cellular-/ .. found while trying to find pricing info on data with that product [I came up empty so far]

[dim knot]

Tiny Code Reader from Useful Sensors https://www.adafruit.com/product/5744

[gray obsidian]

too large to fit in retro barcode pens, but the shower handle like ones probably…

[dim knot]

Adafruit STEMMA Piezo Driver Amp - PAM8904 https://www.adafruit.com/product/5791

[gray obsidian]

but it's 3.3V I suppose?

[dim knot]

Adafruit Metro M7 with microSD - Featuring NXP iMX RT1011 https://www.adafruit.com/product/5600

[ivory kiln]

Q: is the M7 as powerful as a Pi? Or are any of the other Ada-boards able to replace a Pi?

[gray obsidian]

I suppose someone could also contribute support to the Arduino IDE

[wind spoke]

Is the metro imx capable of usb host?

[noble grove]

QUESTION: When will the Lembas drivers be available for microcontrolers with USB Host?

[gray obsidian]

Teal'c, you've got hair!??

Hey these round displays with touch could also fake these round plasma lamps quite well…

[robust horizon]

@wind spoke https://www.nxp.com/assets/block-diagram/en/i.MX-RT1010.pdf the 1010 series has ONE usb block, which supports OTG. So in principle you can use it as a USB host, but not while also being a USB device.

🤣

[sand lotus]

they're trashing our rights, trashing, trashing. oh bubblegum.

[robust horizon]

[the rofl is at the floppy lcd, not the nxp]

[gray obsidian]

"Don't copy that floppy!"

[robust horizon]

Liquid Crystal Floppy or Light Emitting Floppy (LCF or LEF)?

[sand lotus]

1990's you wouldn't copy a car... 2020's yeah we have 3d printers now.

[gray obsidian]

Btw, is there any selection matrix for boards where you can filter by GPIO count, logic voltage, PWM freq… ? Could be really useful…

For my 68HC705 programmer I need 5V I/O… but the Arduino UNO barely has enough pins, I'll probably use a Mega…

[wind spoke]

So it is less powerful than the one tannewt is using for development?

[robust horizon]

@wind spoke yeah I think it's the 1060 series he's using

[sand lotus]

Question: Since you recently discovered the octal psram issue does that mean the recent Metro ESP32-S3 N16R8 will only work in qspi mode? It is advertised as having octal psram.

[ivory kiln]

Q: any plans to make a Pi 4 level Ada-board?

[robust horizon]

the RT1060 block diagram says "2 x USB 2.0 with PHY" https://www.nxp.com/products/processors-and-microcontrollers/arm-microcontrollers/i-mx-rt-crossover-mcus/i-mx-rt1060-crossover-mcu-with-arm-cortex-m7-core-operating-up-to-600-mhz-with-1-mb-ram:i.MX-RT1060

[gray obsidian]

@open girder If it's on a github or other I'd be happy to contribute!

[delicate fractal]

There's probably an awesome arduino type page that already does it.

[dim knot]

QUESTION: How do you deal with outbound shipping during a disaster like a hurricane?

[wind spoke]

Thanks, I will wait for a board with that chip, and use the feather usb host board. (Need to check the teensy too)

[ivory kiln]

Much love to all the Ada-people. 🙂 ❤️

[viral sail]

Thanks @open girder and good night. 🌕

[sand lotus]

People in the area of a direct hurricane strike the last thing on their mind is their packages unless it includes something with batteries.

[gray obsidian]

thanks!

[verbal river]

Bye

[upbeat coral]

Thank you for taking time for us

[cinder wind]

thanks pt, thanks Limor!

[gray obsidian]

💤

[robust horizon]

'night all

[wind spoke]

Good night, really.

[rigid crag]

thanks for a great show

[lethal lagoon]

thanks @open girder !!!! gnight all!

[marsh hull]

good night

[sand lotus]

Thank you for another great show. Have an awesome week everyone!

[robust horizon]

I thought for a second you said "have an awesome weekend" and I got my hopes up

[cinder wind]

party rave

I discovered that "party lasers" is a shopping category

[gray obsidian]

We need that LED matrix from Show & Tell for the vis!

[sand lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/lasers-concert-lights-gif-5102526

[delicate fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/cybergoth-dance-party-deutschland-goth-rave-gif-19376446

[delicate fractal]

This kinda comes close. It is a little focused on boards that run Linux or android, but otherwise... https://hackerboards.com/

[gray obsidian]

Make has a similar one: https://makezine.com/comparison/boards/

But this one seems quite detailed with lots of filters, and you can contribute to, so I suppose it could be extended to smaller boards too

Let's try not making a 3rd one 😄

[haughty quiver]

https://blog.adafruit.com/2023/08/31/john-parks-workshop-returns-next-week-9-7-23-adafruit-johnedgarpark-adafruit/

[dry shore]

waves

[brisk bone]

Hello

[dry shore]

ive been diving into the core lately, implementing TileGrid accel on the broadcom port

[brisk bone]

If you encounter any issues with the current PR state I can make fixes live as it goes

Do you know whether it is possible to write to SD card with CP in readonly mode?

[strong acorn]

SD Card can be R/W, independent of CIRCUITPY

(unless perhaps if SD is the boot driv, like Raspberry Pi)

[brisk bone]

nice

[strong acorn]

no POST on Sundays

[tiny grove]

If you're talking about the little switch on full sized SD cards, that is an optional read-only suggestion. It is just a little piece of plastic that slides back and forth, and it usually triggers a little switch in the socket. Nothing changes in the card itself.

[brisk bone]

during my testing the poll_interval fixed the random restarts of MCU, although they might be caused by the VSCode extension I use

[brisk bone]

I mean the storage.remount("/", readonly=...) parameter with usually disables saving files from CP itself

[tiny grove]

Yeah, that's in software.

[dry shore]

but i had an idea earlier, since the uSD on the rpi is so large, you could afford to split it in half
one partition for CIRCUITPY, one for r/w from the code

the issue is that the host pc cant share a fat with another host

but with partitions, you can have 2 fat's, and only expose 1 to the pc

but on something like a pico, you only have 1mb to divvy up

[strong acorn]

esp boards coming in with 8/16 MB... would be nice to parition, just like NVM, but have a filesystem

[brisk bone]

auto is also faster when reloading

[strong acorn]

reset after editing settings.toml

wasn't there some discussion of defaulting to index.html when path ends in slash?

I suppose it could be a directory

[brisk bone]

it is, but in this case there is the route for / so it overwrites it

[strong acorn]

ah, thx

is there directory listing in HTTPServer (sorry, I'm a. bit out of date)

[brisk bone]

not right now

[strong acorn]

can do via web workflow in any case

[brisk bone]

mainly for keeping the codebase smaller

even now it is quite a bit lib

I can imagine someone wanting templating but now httpserver

even Django uses Jinja or something like this for templating

everything that could be used by end user is importable directly from adafruit_httpserver

require_authentication does that

no changes here

one could even subclass Token to have a different prefix e.g. "Secret 1234567-890..."

Authorization

i believe it only sends it as header

this is correct, Basic, Bearer, Token is sent using headers not cookies

please check again the blinka one, it should be 302

if permament=False

[nova totem]

👋

[brisk bone]

Pushed updated version of example

i also changed the /login example handler

maybe curl -vvv?

[wind spoke]

Sorry, typing about teddy rubbin. 🙂

Yeah reviewing a PR with the author in the chat was an interesting idea.

[brisk bone]

if set to True it will be 308

307 is for temporary

directive is like main value like text/plain of header and parameters are like charset etc.

[wind spoke]

I have you stream in the background, and I find the topic super interesting.
My feeling is that with the storage+memory+performance+network of the S3, it become very intersting for people more on the software side and less on the electronic side of making.
Also, having a web server, is great match with people that can do web development.
I don't know much about programming a web server, I was left in CGI (not even fast CGI)...

So that kind of stream is very interesting to me, I will have to re-listen.

[brisk bone]

Discord chat disapeared from stream

[wind spoke]

Is there something related to WebSocket in that library?

[brisk bone]

Yes, there is, a Websocket response

recently added

[wind spoke]

Languages had to start with a P in my time... could be Perl, PHP or Python. 🙂

[brisk bone]

Pascal 🙂

Server Sent Events

[wind spoke]

connection that sleep.

Where you don't send bytes.

Firewalls and NAT devices hate that.

[brisk bone]

Yeah, I forgot to pass them to Response

will fix

client does not send Set-Cookie header

[wind spoke]

I ordered a Teddy Ruxpin, costed a fortune to bring deliver from US to EU plus likely import fee.
Anyway, I don't have children of that age, nor small children yet.
So I hope it will be here before Halloween... anybody working on a frightening Teddy Ruxpin?

Just checking, you are working on that PR: https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_HTTPServer/pull/67 ?

[brisk bone]

correct

[dry shore]

ive seen json parsers that accept just 42 or "foo" as valid json

ive even abused the json parser as a parse-int function, heh

> JSON.parse('42')
42
> JSON.parse('"foo"')
'foo'
> JSON.parse(" 'foo' ")
SyntaxError: Unexpected token '

yep

true is also accepted

[unreal bay]

I prefer parsers to be lax and successfully parse more files. But if never being manually verified that's risky as errors can creep in.
JSON is an abomination anyway, JavaScript Object Notation, any object is valid 🤷‍♂️

[wind spoke]

Did you consider adding a link to the YouTube video in the PR? "This was reviews during stream ..."

[brisk bone]

.json() works only on POST requests

it is server's side thing

will remove PUT from this example

as it is misleading

[wind spoke]

There was that Wordle learn guide from JP, but that was made in Arduino ( https://learn.adafruit.com/wordle-personal-esp32-s2-web-server ). It feel this can be done with CircuitPython and this library you are working on...

[brisk bone]

I meant that Request.json() works only if reuest is POST

[wind spoke]

From memory it was serving a static page with javascript... so easy.

[brisk bone]

the HTTPServer Request

adafruit_httpserver/request.py:414

yuo are doing everything correctly with the request.put

Thanks for the stream, see you tomorrow

[sand lotus]

thank you for the stream, just woke up, been staying up super late. wil likely miss ☕ with you tomorrow.

[wind spoke]

Maybe streaming from his new office...

[sand lotus]

Not to my knowledge. I think PT did mention the possibility of doing a goth teddy ruxpin. Most of Adafruit's projects that are public facing are generally wholesome. If you could combine the guts of teddy ruxpin with a chuckie doll that would be a classic halloween prop.

[wind spoke]

I am more interested in scary red eyes and horror stories... or just sound, keeping the original shape.

[sand lotus]

I've seen people do it with furbies but not teddy ruxpin personally.

[wind spoke]

Teddy Ruxpin wake up on pressure on the hand or feet, it would need to be a IR sensor to frighten somebofy passing by.

[sand lotus]

pir sensor would work well. a pir sensor that can be adjusted for sensititivy or range so you can fine tune it sounds good.

[smoky island]

I'm getting started for the morning now, continuing with the HTTPServer testing. You can follow along on YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjM2PP1mvH0 or Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch

[brisk bone]

Hello again

[inner spade]

Hello

[unreal bay]

Morning/ afternoon all.
What's the previous board combo that didn't like shared SD pin?

Oh that octal spi memory thing maybe, think boards being respun as quad SPI for the psram and replacement issued because not too many (mostly staff).
Or I'm confused as per usual

You know it, wish I had one but so many s3's already

[inner spade]

Been fascinated with synthio recently, modeling realistic wind chime sounds without resorting to samples. https://github.com/CedarGroveStudios/CircuitPython_Chime

[open surge]

good morning ☕

[open surge]

I watched the demo yesterday, that's fantastic work

[inner spade]

IoT version on an S2 feather https://youtu.be/85vy7aG6j2c?si=KKtJh1J6P5rkMtYC

[unreal bay]

The thought of the maths related to that intimidates me a bit. Hopefully not as bad as I fear

[inner spade]

Thanks. Was pretty focused on it for a while — including rebuilding a few physical garden chimes for the empirical modeling.

[inner spade]

Fortunately, a bunch of work was done by others. For years. The physics of a tubular chime is fascinating. Modeling the wind effects was a fun thought process, too.

[brisk bone]

maybe it would be useful to have a method/property for always getting File.content as bytes?

[open surge]

Remove the slash?

Thanks, didn't realize that, appreciate the explanation

[unreal bay]

have you tried relative paths etc /a/../secrets or /./secrets (sorry if you have, half paying attention)

like update

put implies creation, a bit like post but post is non-specific

(in my head)

I'd assume a failure on second PUT

[brisk bone]

look for _debug_start_time and _debug_end_time in Server.poll, for now it start after accepting connection and ends after sending response

yes I was able to reproduce the error from issue

are you using the old version or the PR version of lib?

saving to the MCUs can be slow, this also happens to me sometimes

you can also have both pr and circup version and only change the "from adafruit_httpserver import ..." line to "from pr67_adafruit_httpserver import ..."

less write operations

you could also use the literal strings "GET", "POST" etc. instead of GET or POST, it is a feature-proof if/when someone decides to make it a separate class instead of a string

[brisk bone]

please give me like one more day to change the last minor stuff etc. before merge

Thanks for stream and review

[smoky island]

For sure!

[inner spade]

Thanks for today’s stream. Have a wonderful holiday weekend.

[open surge]

thanks foamyguy!

[open girder]

Writing an Arduino driver with OpenAI ChatGPT and PDF parsing 🤖🔧📄 PREMIERES LIVE at 10pm ET TONIGHT Sep 2, 2023! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQwZTo6c_yU

[sand lotus]

OpenAda

[sand lotus]

I have no idea what I'm watching but it's beautiful.

[alpine cradle]

I miss Akira

[sand lotus]

is that from akira? i need to go back and watch it again. i don't remember this part at all.

[hallow sierra]

Have you experienced CHATGPT error so badly that you’ve have to restart the chat? Sometimes I find it insists it is correct and I’m wrong.

[wraith thunder]

I was trying to write some vectorized code(Neon) with ChatGPT yesterday but it easily confused by big/little endian

Will try out the plugin too! that seems to be way better then the site that you upload PDF and talk to it

[sand lotus]

I used it for the first time the other day and asked it to write a 16-step midi sequencer in circuit python. it returned some of sophy wong and todbots midi notes code that i recognized.

Might be able to use this to double check a driver init I wrote since it was my first time and still have no idea if it's the exact correct sequence because it does a double refresh and only refreshes in portrait mode when i'd prefer it to refresh in landscape mode.

[inner spade]

It's very intriging to watch Lady Ada in incremental teaching mode, watching ChatGPT for feedback on what it's learning, and adjusting her lesson plan accordingly.

Thank you Lady Ada and Phil for this insight into effective use of the tool.

[sand lotus]

driver inits are one of the most tedious things i've come across. being able to automate that process for new displays would be really nice. especially for ladyada who had like 10 new displays to figure out. it's a great way to be more efficient with your time, hopefully.

however you have to be well versed in writing display inits by hand before you can spot mistakes that it's making. so in some ways this kind of tool is only for the really advanced and not for beginners. a beginner wouldn't be able to spot the mistakes its making along the way.

[hallow sierra]

It helps to give it a sample of the type of file you want. Give it your best example and it will try to emulate it. Just have to watch the context window size.

[clever summit]

Ping @smoky island

[unreal bay]

@smoky island Webmin is the single server version, virtualmin is to facilitate multiple virtual servers on same box. Setups up Apache etc per domain/subdomain/alias

Docker means paid

Or manually configure

You get quota etc for free

It's fine (docker) once you get head around mounting folders as volumes, until you need unsafe mode (certain hardware/security issues) or have networking probs.

Apache should have a user Apache or apache2 or web or www

[open girder]

👋

[lilac tusk]

👋

I occasionally use ChatGPT to toss around ideas for things I want to do

[ivory kiln]

Q: Is ChatGPT good enough for someone that is having an extremely hard time learning to code to have ChatGPT write the whole code? like me with a learning disability

[open girder]

thanks folks! had to also take care of a baby during all this too! @ivory kiln looks like some folks replied to this question on youtube where ya also asked!

[ivory kiln]

Gotcha, Thanks Phil & Limor. 🙂

[oak valley]

Just caught up on that writing drivers with chatgpt vid, really enjoyed it. Last weekend used chatgpt to help convert part of the seesaw library to java for a pi4j project and was really helpful

[little onyx]

Almost missed the show - my Logical Monday

[viral sail]

Good afternoon.

[open surge]

👋

[haughty quiver]

hello!

[inner spade]

👋

[sand lotus]

Hello

[ivory flax]

Hey JP. Missed you last week. Glad you're doing Okay

[cinder wind]

audio clear; voice levels a bit lower than your intro song, if that matters

[feral mortar]

Sounds clear

[inner spade]

Mic level is a bit lower than usual.

[ivory flax]

Better

[open surge]

that's better

[cinder wind]

yes, better

now add reverb and phasser

[inner spade]

New mic level is good.

[pearl shoal]

Love the product this week!

[sand lotus]

sounds good but needs more cowbell 🙂

[pearl shoal]

Probably my favorite AT board right now

[sand lotus]

The first time I loaded up the product page it said $0.00 not even kidding.

[inner spade]

Mark the new level settings with a white dot of paint. 😉

[waxen bough]

Is the the same TFT board I missed out on a while back?

[haughty quiver]

this one is 1 higher. the other was the S2. This is S3!

[fallow fractal]

whats the difference between bluetooth classic and bluetooth low power?

[haughty quiver]

they are different standards. BLE is a bit more modern, but there are other differences I'm not remembering.

[fallow fractal]

👍

[inner spade]

… and it can be mounted vertically for a DIY Eurorack module.

[pearl shoal]

Bought 10 - will go to very good use!

Great as HID device (anything -> Keyboard/mouse/gamepad/XAC)

Also great for iOS Switch Control (via BLE)

And the screen make it super easy to use & debug

[cinder wind]

in general you never want Bluetooth Classic

[pearl shoal]

You want Bluetooth Classic if you want to be the "Central" use a classic keyboard/mouse to control the device

There are some edge cases for classic but they are not critical

[waxen bough]

Does anyone happen to know if the TWAI (CAN) device pins are brought out on this board and not otherwise used? I'd sure like to hook it to CAN.

[shell mason]

lars images nice

[cinder wind]

The schematics are posted here so you can verify if they are: https://learn.adafruit.com/esp32-s3-reverse-tft-feather/downloads Looks like all S3 pins are brought out?

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/the-flash-season3-hr-wells-gif-20244178

[sand lotus]

Snagged one good value.

I used an S2 reverse TFT for a lora rangefinder which I got during a JPPPOTW on Feb 21, 2023. 😉

[viral sail]

Thanks @haughty quiver

[open surge]

thanks JP!

[shell mason]

some could put edit reverse tft as lars image to it

[haughty quiver]

welcome, thanks for stopping by!

[waxen bough]

I'm grabbing a half dozen. I'm bound to find a use for these babies!

[sand lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/moonwalk-dance-self-care-song-dance-backward-go-backward-gif-19320411

[inner spade]

Thanks!

[sand lotus]

Nice deal, thanks JP!

[unreal bay]

Thanks JP, just cost me an arm and a leg but super chuffed

[grand tusk]

Just what I need for MFA: https://www.adafruit.com/product/5691

[amber frost]

I can't get logged on to Adafruit.com to complete my purchase! Or to even leave a note about the problem.

[unreal bay]

Try clearing cookies, or try another web browser / computer. You may want to try setting up two factor auth as well. (Strangely the discount is still live so you may have success)

[rocky reef]

3DHangouts Episode 412 LIVE in 5mins! 10 Years, Synth Guitar and Spider Lamp https://www.youtube.com/adafruit/live Today's coupon code “tenyears” gets you 10% off your order!

good morning folks!

[hard hollow]

howdy howdy

[viral sail]

Good morning everyone.

[vagrant flax]

[rocky reef]

https://adafruit-playground.com

[floral acorn]

G'day

[upbeat coral]

Hey Y'll

[floral acorn]

Gibson SG style!

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/street-cleaner-synthwave-outrun-keytar-rainbow-gif-13305861

nice gargoyle

[rocky reef]

Spider Lamp by: toolmoon
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6159137
https://youtu.be/Jo-L14Doce4

https://www.printables.com/model/542429-lightsaber-rp2040/comments/1097354

https://www.printables.com/model/7159-halo-energy-sword/comments/1092288

https://www.printables.com/model/542429-lightsaber-rp2040/comments/1089248

[floral acorn]

10 more minutes...let's see if he can hold it

[vagrant flax]

Thanks guys! Great show!

[rocky reef]

thanks so much for hanging out folks!

[floral acorn]

Thanks

[dry marten]

Thanks!

[upbeat coral]

Thank you for taking time for us

[hard hollow]

Thanks folks! cya tonight

[robust horizon]

good evening ! It's almost that time.

⌚

[inner spade]

👋

[viral sail]

Good evening everyone.

[open girder]

Link to join to show and share your project! https://streamyard.com/cmfyjrrku2 & WE ARE LIVE! ASK AN ENGINEER! https://youtu.be/19Dm4f7CD8U

[upbeat coral]

Hey Y'll

[rapid hornet]

👋

[robust horizon]

@inner spade I dig how in depth you're getting on synthesizing wind chimes and plan to repurpose some of that code next time I am working on my "personal area windchimes" project (uses accelerometer)

[dry marten]

👋

[robust horizon]

don't hesitate, join us and show a project of your own.

[inner spade]

Cool. Would love to see your approach!

[viral sail]

🍕

[cinder wind]

The Power Of Cardboard!

[delicate fractal]

I have a question for LadyAda, and I don't know if it belongs on Ask An Engineer or here: Do you have a photo of your electrical engineering art project that lead to the disciplinary record? Did you do anything to dispute the "questionable claim" aspect?

[wind spoke]

Pizza box might fit well too...

[cinder wind]

I miss ZIF sockets

[gray obsidian]

Btw, someone asked on Mastodon the other day for ideas to label plastic boxes in a way that's reusable… I suggested a whiteboard foil roll cut in bands… Any other idea?

[delicate fractal]

I'm shoked we don't see them more often.

[cinder wind]

not much DIP stuff nowadays

[gray obsidian]

Oh, DIY EPROM programmer?

[robust horizon]

Yep,specifically for AT28C16 (2kB EEPROM)

[cinder wind]

Thanks @hard hollow! I've learned so much about 3D CAD from your youtubes

[robust horizon]

Ben Eater has done a similar project but for larger size EEPROMs. 2kB is not very much space, as you might guess 🙂

[wind spoke]

EPROM emulator with a Pico could be interesting too. Not sure if possible, but it might be easier than to reprogram.

[robust horizon]

@rapid hornet have you checked whether the boxes are cat-compatible?

[gray obsidian]

I'm planning on making a 68HC705E programmer… I ordered Arduino Mega proto boards clones for that, figured i'd be fast enough for a few kb

[robust horizon]

This programs 2kB in about 8 seconds, iirc.

[upbeat coral]

I didn't learn everything I know about 3d printing from Noe and Pedro BUT, they are the motivators that got me into 3d printing.

[gray obsidian]

Arduino is probably a bit slower than rPi… but these uCs actually program themselves (they supposedly strobe an external counter), so well

I ordered a ZIF socket even though they are SOIC but so I can plug the SOIC adapter in easily. I already bent the pins removing it from the breadboard so…

talking about SOIC… well… spoilers 🙂

[robust horizon]

For the AT28, the main problem is that one of the programming pulses is supposed to be maximum 1000ns, which is hard to do in CircuitPython. The RP2040 PIO peripheral made it possible though.

[wind spoke]

Wii guitar, the adaptor and the Feather prop maker could do the trick too, without 3D printing.

[gray obsidian]

ah yeah, else you'd have to get a one-shot PWM or something

[delicate fractal]

LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER goes on tour with his Furby Organ, so I can totally see Noe touring with his keytar.

[robust horizon]

I had also thought maybe sending a single 0-bit over SPI too. but PIO was the most sensible

[onyx arrow]

Hi Makers. Sorry I didn’t get to join the live stream this week. I added some light widgets to my “Hex-Wall” project I showed off last week. I’m using a gesture sensor to set off the light effects.

[robust horizon]

huh there's no honeycomb emoji for me to react to that with

[gray obsidian]

can't remember which youtuber redid his workshop with those but they looked great

at the fablab we used DIY french cleat, works well too

with laser-cut boxes to clip onto them

and we are French, so… 😅

[onyx arrow]

I added some extra bits so I can channel cables between the cells. Busy wiring that up

So I can power my props mounted on the wall

[robust horizon]

I really do appreciate the kind words. I make this stuff for folks like you, @inner spade

and you @lyric frost (and yes absolutely a big debt that I have to @light stump for the original version)

🤯

ooh I see startrek.bas

[inner spade]

The IoT Weather Chimes repo https://github.com/CedarGroveStudios/Weather_Chimes that uses a synthio voice class https://github.com/CedarGroveStudios/CircuitPython_Chime

... and a video of the test of the Weather Chimes project: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85vy7aG6j2c

[dry marten]

Awesome project @lyric frost

[viral sail]

Great work everyone. Thanks for sharing.

[gray obsidian]

thanks!

[upbeat coral]

Thank you all for takint time for us

[open surge]

love those projects @inner spade and @lyric frost

[lyric frost]

Thanks 😄

[gray obsidian]

don't forget to tell the yt algorithm that it rocks 😄

[lyric sphinx]

May be helpful for people: Tips for cutting ribbon cable straight?

[gray obsidian]

Yeah, how about a collab with FranLab on VFDs? 🙂

[open girder]

WE ARE LIVE! ASK AN ENGINEER! https://youtu.be/19Dm4f7CD8U

10% discount code, code is: resty http://www.adafruit.com ends at midnight NYC time

[gray obsidian]

hmm solderpaste 😋

and babysitting! 🙂

[gray obsidian]

a paper guillotine?

Haven't tried yet, you probably don't want to reuse it for paper next

yay, just missing a keyboard and screen and you can run RISC-OS 😄

[delicate fractal]

Modern cheap craft paper cutters, which are not as good as paper guilotines, but cheaper and safer, have replaceable blades.

[gray obsidian]

Yeah and probably easier to find too.

[delicate fractal]

also, in my experience, people don't realize it's called a guilotine, and freak out when you ask "where's the guilotine?" in the office. 🤣

[gray obsidian]

in french is "massicot" but I wasn't sure on wiktionary about the translation

missed the AI driver live, need to catch up

JP you're on hair!

[lyric sphinx]

Bacon time.

[dim knot]

Live from the desk of Ladyada https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjF7R1fz_OOXUtaFu7-_D1UCugC8OecKv

[lyric sphinx]

(I do have a craft cutter with bespoke blade; was thinking of people what may not have one handy)

[delicate fractal]

hmmm... I wonder if you can hook PagerDuty up to wippersnapper...

also hmm: does that mean that GPT produced code should be under BSD, artistic and/or GPL3?

[gray obsidian]

"Computer, end of simulation."

[delicate fractal]

You want a robot uprising? 'cause that's how you get a robot uprising!

[open girder]

@delicate fractal right now the lawyers we talked to so far said limor is the author regardless and we don't need to do anyyhing, however we decided to disclose and link to the chat logs, which is every prompt and response

(we do MIT license and include that text/link)

[gray obsidian]

would be interesting to see how many hours it took, and how many letters typed, vs if you actually did it yourself.

[delicate fractal]

Good sharp scissors work on ribbon cable.

[open girder]

so we're the first to disclose use of these tools in an open-source repo in the readme

and license

we'll see what folks think, we are emailing OSI and OSHWA

[gray obsidian]

all the nights spent REing and writing drivers for obscure OSes… (Haiku for me)

did you say "Star Trek" right now? cause I missed it but it was in the live CC 😅

[inner spade]

ChatGPT would be (will become) invaluable if it could remember how I did things in the past as well as suggesting improvements. Just another path for learning and discovery.

[delicate fractal]

I was thinking not about your specific effort, but the output of GPT in general. There's the argument that AIs are essentially counterfeit engines because of how they are trained on other peoples' code. or art. or writing. etc.
anyhow, I think the way you wrote that driver is the IDEAL way to use AI at the moment.

[open girder]

thanjs @delicate fractal yah, we're case for us, it's limor's code

[gray obsidian]

just wait till patent trolls sue you for infringing your own © 😄

🎶 Spam in the place where I live…

wow

[delicate fractal]

I realize how niche&nerdy this sounds, but I look forward to lawsuits about GPT. That's going to be an amazing rollercoaster ride. Hopefully someone convinces groklaw to come out of retirement for it.

[robust horizon]

that display looks chunkier than it is, because the text mode automatically doubles (to chunky 2x2 pixels) on a display with that many pixels

[delicate fractal]

"business, business, business!" - Unikitty

[lyric frost]

is that also why the gif filled the screen, 720 is wider than I thought could be displayed?

[gray obsidian]

"Mission Statement" (Weird Al Yankovic)

Time will tell… But time is timey-wimey… stuff.

[open girder]

@delicate fractal agree, a lot is going to be deciced by the courts

[cinder wind]

That's how we'll know we're really in The Future: when we can toss our RGB Fancy Pants™ into the wash while they're still colorcycling and have them come out still working

[delicate fractal]

Either that or you can hack the coin-op with your pants.

[open girder]

@delicate fractal i think adobe's approach with how they do generative was smart (they owned what it was trained on) for text like news, gonna be a court case, and for code, unknown - for us, it's limor code with limor interacting with it and we document it with the complete prompt and responses, along with crediting the LLM, so we'll see what happens

i think limor's use is probably unique

[delicate fractal]

putting the prompt conversation into a repo with the code that was output seems like a reasonable, maybe even great way to document your code, especially if it's open-source. Hopefully it becomes normalized.

[open girder]

yah, someone had to do it, why not us!

[gray obsidian]

well it's the "source" of the processed output (the generated code) so yeah 🙂

[inner spade]

... but is a very useful model for a productive and reliable outcome. It was like she was tutoring a talented intern that needed a bit of experiential mentoring (and wisdom).

[open girder]

i think the video we did with it also was new/no one did/and unique, so maybe it will help shape the conversations about how these tools "could" be used

[gray obsidian]

Only missing ZIP package 😄

[delicate fractal]

I wonder if anyone is using these for a pitot-tube altimeter for an experimental aircraft

[dry shore]

just beware of hornets making your planes crash!

[delicate fractal]

That's a problem with steam guages too, so...

[dim knot]

2.8" TFT Touch Shield for Arduino with Resistive Touch Screen v2 - STEMMA QT / Qwiic https://www.adafruit.com/product/1651

[gray obsidian]

Meow!

DIY Purr machine! No hair on the couch!!!

[cinder wind]

awww

thanks!

[verbal river]

so instead of learning Arduino or Python, makers should learn how to write big fancy ChatGPT prompts?

[gray obsidian]

I went on the moon! Well, actually I walked over that round display showing the moon, but eh 😄

[open girder]

@verbal river that is the opposite of what we suggest

[gray obsidian]

Yeah, learn C and Python correctly so you can know when AI is wrong.

[open girder]

@verbal river watch the vid with limor and check out the prompts how she uses it, it's a tool for getting more done -with- the skills you have, and for limor, her own code she wrote

[gray obsidian]

Just like kids leaning how to use calculators, if they have no idea of magnitudes, they'll blindly trust what it says even if it's blatantly worng.

[haughty quiver]

for me, using ChatGPT for code help is sorta like not having to remember a bunch of phone numbers anymore. I can't remember specific syntax or commands, so I let ChatGPT remember for me. It's much better than traditional search.

[cinder wind]

gotta learn how to code so you can call GPT out on its bullcrap

[brazen quail]

Will we see Ethernet support with wipr snapper and/or adafruit.io ? (Or just wifi ?)

[lyric frost]

I found GPT very helpful in writing code, but found myself suggesting code fixes when GPT went awry, so I don't think I would have gotten anything if I didn't know how to code myself

[gray obsidian]

you just need to know when the output is wrong, just like with calculators

[tulip canyon]

Question: What would Adafruit do with 22M?
Proud you are non VC btw

[brazen quail]

Will we see a single pair Ethernet feather wing ?

[gray obsidian]

well it's not like it's a 22M gift, it's more of a loan, so with strings attached…

[cinder wind]

QTPys For The People!

[brazen quail]

Any PoDL / SPoE in the works ?

[gray obsidian]

more useful than OLPC 😄

[upbeat coral]

Thank you for taking time for us.

[inner spade]

With $22M you would be able to buy the maker portion of Arduino and keep it open.

[haughty quiver]

A Lars for every home.

[gray obsidian]

Someone asked for VFD stuff… how about a collab with FranLab?

[viral sail]

Thanks @open girder and good night. 🌗

[brazen quail]

Have a great evening.

[verbal river]

Thanks, Bye!

[cinder wind]

thanks pt! thanks Limor!

[tulip canyon]

Thank you @open girder Have a great night

[inner spade]

Thanks!

[gray obsidian]

annnd it's 3am gosh, n(7+1)!

the issue with the zener is you can use oooooohm as a mantra 😄

[cinder wind]

where do you get all these cool tunes

[delicate fractal]

At least part of it is that a few Adafruit employees make music. I forget the band name though...

[gray obsidian]

Aw, Be, Inc. had a band too back in the days, The Cotton Square

🎶 BeOS… it's the OS na na hoo hoo hooo…

💤

[light stump]

Sorry couldn’t catch it live but just saw the replay where the HACKtablet made an appearance. Thanks @lyric frost that was an awesome and inspiring demo. Glad to see you taking this more steps forward to new altitudes of what can be done.

[rapid hornet]

I haven't. No cats at the new office unfortunately

[robust horizon]

no soldering, no cats, it's not much of an office is it

[rapid hornet]

vin is happily on my lap now since I'm at home

[unreal bay]

@rapid hornet please can I be added to the deepdivers role. Hi and thanks btw

[rapid hornet]

done! np

[cinder wind]

it's "vin" not "vim"!? 😀

[rapid hornet]

yup. vin as in the main character of mistborn

[inner spade]

👋

[haughty quiver]

hi!

[viral sail]

Good afternoon.

[haughty quiver]

sorry, trying to get Facebook to stream, it's not behaving

[unreal bay]

Have you crashed the internet again, bringing down all the mega corporations with a minor tweak to your midi stack?

[verbal river]

🎵🎵

[dusk socket]

time for another chance to learn ......... Yes

[inner spade]

Need to lower your expectations.

[haughty quiver]

hhahah

[unreal bay]

oh phones pinging, all the streams are live

[verbal river]

Q: Does the minimum viable synth need a transistor?

[unreal bay]

a ok

[vivid ore]

https://tenor.com/view/monsters-inc-sully-hey-youre-good-youre-good-you-are-good-gif-22295579

[cinder wind]

my minimum viable synth is a cat and a treats bag

[regal plover]

Hello JP

[cinder wind]

I think this is what's running on that screen behind JP : https://gist.github.com/todbot/dbd59078fc53cc7627aa2b2f3a064898

[verbal river]

"consisten drill holes" = poked thru cardboard with a ballpoint pen

omg that pic freaks me out

[vivid ore]

Oh yeah that eurorack mount looks super clean! Do you have files for it?

[dry marten]

Lost audio

[vivid ore]

Also rip audio

[verbal river]

🔇

[inner spade]

@haughty quiver no mic audio

All good now, audio-wise

[unreal bay]

phew that's a lot of tongue twisting

There was a sega release of Typing of the Dead, still on steam, with word packs too (free). Makes me think of time crisis, made me get VR

[cinder wind]

It doesn't have LEDs yet

[viral sail]

My cat was quite puzzled by that tone. 😺

[inner spade]

Some minimum viable musical instruments: a hand saw (from the workshop), two spoons, and a hammer played on almost anything.

[wild urchin]

"Spoonman, come together with your hands ..."

[cinder wind]

wavetables but no wavespoons

[wild urchin]

Surf's up on the minimum viable wavetable synth

@cinder wind called out!

[cinder wind]

This is really great JP! I can't wait for this synthio guide

[wild urchin]

Of course there's a Keystep

[cinder wind]

oh those are those nice low-profile headers on the QTPy and BFF. Been meaning to start using those

[inner spade]

The synthio guide will answer all of my questions, JP! Nicely done.

[wild urchin]

Nice black box!

[unreal bay]

or Web Midi as someone showed me, I wanted a simple instrument test

[wild urchin]

Krell would be proud

[inner spade]

Synth could be a bit louder

[verbal river]

Synth sound is low. Also, was expecting the buttons to play the Parsec notes.

[tender wolf]

Nice to see you too!

Is the code for the QT - MIDI Type A or B?

[unreal bay]

Ace levels (after the louder increase)

[verbal river]

Still low, but we can hear it.

[unreal bay]

oh more baby

[tender wolf]

I ask because you're using an Arturia

[next compass]

Ouch!

[wild urchin]

The QT is USB-C

[verbal river]

OK better.

[cinder wind]

"my midi panic is the breaker box"

[tender wolf]

ahh gotcha! Good to know, thank you.

[verbal river]

whoa now it's loud 😄

[wild urchin]

YEAH!

[dusk socket]

to much

[inner spade]

Synth way too loud compared to voice mic

[wild urchin]

Blast us with that sweet microsynth

[dusk socket]

Turn down the synth

[lyric frost]

👍

[verbal river]

OK that's it

[inner spade]

Better level balance now

Perfect mix, actually

[cinder wind]

DDEETTUUNNEE

love detune

it's like cruise control for cool

[wild urchin]

If they are phase linked.

Phase displacement also sounds cool

[cinder wind]

this is what JP's demo was based on I think: https://github.com/todbot/circuitpython-synthio-tricks/blob/main/examples/monosynth1/code.py

[inner spade]

Very Forbidden Planet-esque! Krell music.

[wild urchin]

I have an WMD PDO, it's interesting but can be really subtle

[cinder wind]

28,000 Hz sample rate because it was the highest sample rate I could do that didn't create clicking with a audiomixer buffer of 2048 bytes (higher buffer means greater played key -> note lag)

[grand tusk]

Can it play Street Chicken?

[wild urchin]

So many "magic numbers" when you tune code to make outputs into the real world

[cinder wind]

JP making all these little techno shanks that override TVs or whatnot

[grand tusk]

Metro M7 🍠

[viral sail]

Thanks @haughty quiver . Have a great weekend everyone.

[haughty quiver]

?showtimes

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Sunday Evening
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/ Foamyguy - 5pm ET Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 11am ET Saturdays

[tender wolf]

thank you1

[inner spade]

Thanks @haughty quiver! Looking forward to that there guide.

[verbal river]

Bye!

[grand tusk]

Thanks, I gotta find some time to start using synthio.

[hasty loom]

Thanks! Waiting on guide also, but can the setup send MIDI messages somehow to a synth module - no keyboard - I have a Yamaha rack-mount? Thanks.

[haughty quiver]

hi @hasty loom yes, you can have a board like QT Py send MIDI using CircuitPython to another synth.

[hasty loom]

Cool thanks!

[haughty quiver]

here's an .svg of the reverse TFT Feather Eurorack panel

[cinder wind]

hey @open girder when is the adafruit version of this kind of video coming out? https://youtu.be/2Tq2hokiW6U?si=rcQFwXu5ChPfVC-w&t=29

[smoky island]

👋 happy friday!

[fallow fractal]

all the boxes!

so many boxes

[wind spoke]

Hello. 🙂

[shell mason]

just in time

[fallow fractal]

cat cam is best cam.

[brazen grove]

/o/

[timid plover]

will you be discussing you new filing system ?

[wind spoke]

After the temperature in °F now we get distance in feet. 🙂

[wheat terrace]

👋

[unreal bay]

Now you've had your tray cardboard boxes for a short time, any improvements / thoughts?

[wheat terrace]

Seattle is beautiful !

[eager matrix]

Hi Scott. I hope the new place works out great for you.

[unreal bay]

Your Note on the adafruit learn guide Playground (public) was interesting

[eager matrix]

Are we still going to have the cat cam even though you aren't in the same place?

[cinder wind]

Now it's a CAT-5e cam

just video of cables

[eager matrix]

That's a really good idea for board storage. I may need to mod my lab to add them.

[nova totem]

Wait we're not just throwing everything in a box and getting annoyed everytime we can't find something?

[rapid hornet]

https://adafruit-playground.com/u/tannewt/pages/custom-storage-boxes

[cinder wind]

For labels, I like using Avery-style labels that I write on. gives a nice high-contrast background

[nova totem]

Earthquakes are one disaster I never have had to worry about here at least

[timid plover]

any pointers to a good source of antistatic foam mentioned earlier ?

[eager matrix]

Have you thought about going to a pizzaria and seeing if you can just buy a few of their boxes?

[timid plover]

maybe a topic for great search ? 🙂

[wind spoke]

I eat Calzone from the Pizza restaurant, that is a closed pizza so the box is not dirty. So last time I immediatly removed the Calzone from the box and stored the box in my Kallax. I just need to eat more of it.

[gusty wedge]

Hi from Costa Rica. Did I got into the craft hour? :p

Not at all, craft are cool.

[dry shore]

ive been using a mix of ferrero rocher and WoW game-time card boxes for my part storage

there are 3 ferrero rocher boxes in this shelf, and room for 4

[wind spoke]

Next thing you know we will talk about:

• Nintendo Labo (cardboard based visual programming game)
• "Makedo" (cardboad screw for kids to build great stuff with cardboard)

[brazen grove]

can't you just order a lot of pizzas?

[gusty wedge]

Oh extra cool, so you are sorting the huge collection of micros.

[wind spoke]

Laser cutting your own cutboard?

[gusty wedge]

Extra points for not doing it with plastic.

[gusty wedge]

But then you need a bigger cartboard to store the laser cutter :p

[shell mason]

some say you could do foltable pcb box

[gusty wedge]

Very nice label maker. I was thinking on getting one of the old-school ones that don't need batteries, but I haven't decided yet.

[wind spoke]

We should be talking in Rack Unit... do you have a LackRack too?

[gusty wedge]

hmmm... NRF/ESP BT -> labelmaker?

[nova totem]

I'm having flash backs to the simpsons box factory tour 🙂

[fallow fractal]

so many boxes, but no cat to sit in them. or cat cam

[gusty wedge]

Did you by any chance counted how many boards in the collection?

[surreal bough]

is there any way somebofy can help me with Adafruit SPI Flash SD Card - XTSD 512 MB

[wind spoke]

Maybe we need a feature on circuitpython.org to create an inventory of the board we have at home... then when there is a new firmware to test or bug specific to a board, you could send a message or check who could help in testing it.

^^^ that is CircuitPython related idea

[brazen quail]

Hola from 'rado. 😎

[surreal bough]

thanks ! cheers from romania!

[wind spoke]

Sometimes it is faster to order a new board than to find the one I know I have somewhere...

[nova totem]

I have a tiny LCD screen I wanted to use. I know it is somewhere...

[gusty wedge]

Oh, the p4 is riscv. I'll have to add one to my collection.

I don't see any in digikey, so I'll wait...

[unreal bay]

how do you know what the correct option to pick for defaults for you s2 sdkconfig default file, just copy an idf example or more guess/try and see...

I'm feeling slow tonight. I see you get the target specific defaults by running menuconfig using the esp IDF, aka update-board-sdkconfig script

gotcha

[eager matrix]

gotta run, Scott. See you next week.

[timid plover]

that pasted FLASH - not psram

🙂 - thats because I have to concentrate

but I understand the process of having to do the edits manually before writing the script to automate

now you have test data to compare to see if your automation script will work

[unreal bay]

Thanks Scott. Good luck with the AC

[rapid hornet]

thanks!

stands in front of fan

[smoky island]

I'm getting started for the morning. Taking a look into a micropython lib utemplate You can follow along on YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILaMh-hn7B4 or Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch

[open surge]

good morning

[solid panther]

have you tried replacing .com in github.com with .dev (when you're in a repo) ?

It's what you said

[inner spade]

👋

[clever summit]

Hey Tim

Wonderful sunny summer day in Sweden. Probably the last one. 🙂

[mental tundra]

What was the deal with 'resty' and the metro M7 a few days ago? It now appears that I may have misunderstood how that functioned? Somewhat new to watching the broadcasts so I may be outside the loop for how things generally function

[wind spoke]

It is so much the right size that the little friction makes it hold by itself on some locations. At least there is no gap

[open girder]

JOIN IN! Desk of Ladyada - Wrapping up the S3 TFT Experimenter & Triple RCA Connectors 🔌🎥🔍 https://youtu.be/SUs6YteOtOA

👋

[viral sail]

Good evening.

[sand lotus]

Starship

[lilac tusk]

This is so cool!

[rich wing]

Is there a way to do this with composite video or VGA output instead of going to a TFT?

[sand lotus]

That's the entire intro which is a very respectable amount of video.

[rich wing]

Would that need a DAC chip?

[open girder]

@rich wing composite is tough, you would need a DAC that does the composite colorburst management. VGA is possible - you would set up a resistor divider for R G and B

here is an example https://datasheets.raspberrypi.com/rp2040/vga-for-pico-w-schematics.pdf

[rich wing]

Funny to me that now digital video is faster and cheaper to do than analog... while 10 years ago digital would be 100 times more expensive 😄

[nova totem]

Encarta... have not thought about that in a long time

[lilac tusk]

Yeah.. a looong time

Encarta apparently went through 2009 😯

[rich wing]

https://tenor.com/view/time-warp-gif-18397571

[gray obsidian]

And Europe had SCART thanks to France 😄

[sand lotus]

you can find some red jacks that are so low in red they came out pink. here's some keystone rca jacks, in "red".

thank you for the episode. have a great week!

[viral sail]

Thanks and good night. 🌘

[open girder]

🌃

[dry marten]

Thanks for the show

[gray obsidian]

Well last time I modded a CRT to add A/V input I actually used a 3.5 jack due to space constraints. But then I can use a stereo jack to RCA to send video + mono audio

oh yeah, n8!

[sand lotus]

didn't know you could do that. any chance of cross talk with that setup?

[gray obsidian]

well it's a 7" B&W TV so video quality anyway… it was good enough I think

[sand lotus]

imagine if people started using 3.5mm jacks for rca though... you'd see 3.5mm holes in the back of equipment and it would be really confusing.

[gray obsidian]

Didn't the Raspberry Pi do that too? with a TRRS jack?

[sand lotus]

though back then most audio out was 1/4" jack or RCA

[gray obsidian]

ah yes https://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2014/07/raspberry-pi-model-b-3-5mm-audiovideo-jack/

[sand lotus]

midi uses trs too

oh wow i never knew that

[gray obsidian]

some cameras do it too I think

[dry shore]

everything in the pi2-pi4 family have a TRRS jack

the zero's have composite on a thruhole/smd pad

[sand lotus]

i suppose you could use a wide variety of plug/connector schemes to send whatever signals you wanted.

[dry shore]

but pi400 doesnt expose the signal

[gray obsidian]

not an RGB mod as it's B&W but: https://m.g3l.org/@mmu_man/105293948144326468

[sand lotus]

she didn't specify why using rca for sending power was a bad idea, i'm guessing just the plug voltage rating?

[dry shore]

risk of damage to incompatible hw when a noob plugs the wrong thing in?

[gray obsidian]

and the contacts are probably not good enough, + too thin metal

so it can heat up

[sand lotus]

can you use cat 5e to send audio? i mean there are 4 pairs so could in theory drive 4 small speakers?

impractical but interesting

[gray obsidian]

you'd use 1000$/m audiophile ethernet cable but yeah 😄

[rich wing]

Yes, absolutely. There are some speakers systems that use Cat5 for analog signaling, and some that do digital. I used a pair of baluns to carry audio from the dj boot at a roller rink to a powered speaker at the snack bar over some leftover cat5

[sand lotus]

interesting, never heard of that.

[rich wing]

Cat5 is 24 gague wire, you can bind up the pairs to get 2 pairs of 22ga

[sand lotus]

ahh that's smart.

[dry shore]

power over ethernet is also doing similar

[rich wing]

LINESO Stereo DC3.5mm Stereo and RCA Red White Audio Signal Balun Over Cat5/6 Cable https://a.co/d/bO5hon0

[dry shore]

the data is high speed differential data, with each pair being a proper diff pair

but the power, is low frequency ac, with each pair being a single phase

[sand lotus]

yes i'm still amazed at some of the power that's able to go through POE systems. 24v-48v.

[dry shore]

so there is a dc bias ontop of the diff pair

well, dc relative to the frequency ethernet uses

[rich wing]

Cat5 is the most versatile cable in the universe 😄

[dry shore]

the starlink dish uses a variant of PoE with even higher power

the cable is also much heavier then normal, likely a thicker gauge of copper

[sand lotus]

it really is

[rich wing]

Cat6/7 use 23ga cable

[sand lotus]

and is really just more pairs of rj11

when TV's hit like 16K they're going to come out with some new 16-24 pair cable that will take things back to a VGA looking connector.

[rich wing]

I used to host karaoke at a bar and used something similar to this to share the lyrics screen around the entire bar. It carried power along the cable too so there was no need for another power supply at the TV matrix side.. just plug the hdmi in.

HDMI Extender 1080P@60Hz with Local Output, Extending 165ft (50m) Length Transmission Over CAT5e/CAT6/CAT7 Cable, One Power Adapter https://a.co/d/isWntqA

[sand lotus]

you got to do some cool stuff

[rich wing]

Not likely. hdmi already has 4 shielded pairs plus 7 individual wires and the shield

[dry shore]

isnt that what dual-link DVI was doing?

[sand lotus]

they did introduce a couple more pins i think. yeah completely forgot about dvi lol

[dry shore]

and then you have displayport, which is more of a packet network then a video channel

[rich wing]

Dual link DVI carried digital and analog on the same connector, so you could use a DVI to VGA adapter for an old monitor or projector, or get digital video on a DVI monitor, or convert to HDMI connector for a TV (no audio though)

[sand lotus]

that stuff is so far over my head it blows my mind that someone got dvi/hdmi working on a pi pico.

[dry shore]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface#Dual_link

Dual link DVI doubles the number of TMDS data pairs, effectively doubling the video bandwidth, which allows higher resolutions up to 2560 × 1600 at 60 Hz or higher refresh rates for lower resolutions

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/DVI_Connector_Types.svg/800px-DVI_Connector_Types.svg.png

the 4 pins on the right are analog

[rich wing]

Easier to do DVI-D since it's all 1s and 0s... going to VGA or composite, what I need for my projects, requires you take that digital signal and mash it into a multiplexed analog signal... more hardware and processing than just digital video frames out to a monitor

[sand lotus]

kind of my point if they're going from 4K TV's to 8K then 16K they're going to need bigger plugs with more data pairs.

[dry shore]

the optional pins in the middle-ish are the 2nd DVI link

the missing pins on the bottom one, on the left, are the 1st DVI link, thats an analog only port

[sand lotus]

unless they go fiber to the device?

[dry shore]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b6/DVI_pinout_no_info.png

ah, this explains it better

[rich wing]

Doubt it. TOSlink barely exists now, and that was just a simple audio cable. Cheaper to just use copper cables than to convert from PWM light to digital 1s and 0s

[sand lotus]

the dvi schemes became untennable at a certain point having to get just the right cable. rca though... still idiot proof like 50 years later.

[dry shore]

rca cant carry a 4k60 signal, lol

[sand lotus]

there's always a tradeoff 😛

[dry shore]

rca is also far simpler to init on the rpi gpu

i got ntsc going ages ago, i still cant get hdmi working

[rich wing]

Also used for all sorts of other stuff like cat5 is. There are Halloween haunted house controllers that use it to push 12v to props, same for model trains

[sand lotus]

good point.

[rich wing]

Offer it pizza.

[sand lotus]

have you tried OpenAI? i recently used it to fix an issue. surprisingly helpful if you guide it with documentation.

[dry shore]

my problem, is a lack of documentation

[sand lotus]

oh right the secret pi feature

[rich wing]

Gotta run, have to swap out a ceiling light before my brain fades out too far. Night all 🙃

[wind spoke]

< Message moved to the right channel >

[rapid hornet]

Mean to post this to #circuitpython-dev ?

[gray obsidian]

@open girder hmm yeah, no wonder cinepak encoding takes ages, it's not multithreaded in ffmpeg, while even mpeg1 and mjpeg seems to be…

maybe try another same-era codec, like DV?

or set up a bounty to fix ffmpeg 🙂

Yeah dvenc.c supports both frame and slice threading, but I don't know what's the decoding complexity is for that.

[gray obsidian]

hmm ok, DV takes 1.9x the space though

[haughty quiver]

hello

[viral sail]

Good afternoon.

[split gazelle]

good afternoon folks

[sand lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/all-the-pie-gif-25129185

[inner spade]

Hello!

[split gazelle]

now i want pie

[haughty quiver]

same

[ivory flax]

Good afternoon JP. Slice of pie eh?

[haughty quiver]

full disclosure, Adobe ML generated that weird slice of pie in the thumbnail

[tacit garnet]

What a QT.

[silent anvil]

Are all regular STEMMA QT cables out of stock? 🥺

[tacit garnet]

In for 3. One to botch. 2 to make productive

[dusk socket]

what is the big dif between s2 and s3 qt py

[sand lotus]

This is a really great deal today but I already have 2. Recommend picking up the qt py lipo addon board with it, don't forget about the qt py addon boards.

s3 is dual core

[cinder wind]

S3 can do BLE bluetooth

[sand lotus]

Depends on what system you load on there for BLE though. I don't think BLE is fully working with circuit python yet. Maybe in 9.0?

[cinder wind]

dang out of stock already

[sand lotus]

It probably works with ESP-IDF. Unsure about Micropython or Arduino.

[cinder wind]

missed my chance

[waxen bough]

Already out of stock. Skunked again. I had my order ready to go, but I was messing with sound/speaker problems and by the time I sorted that out it was too late! 😢
I should have learned my lesson the first time this happened to me.

[dusk socket]

thanks todbot

[unreal bay]

Was there any? None before show, but not surprised if disappeared fast ...

[sand lotus]

They went really quick Tyeth within 10 minutes.

[unreal bay]

Fair, I got last week's so glad others benefited

ESP also supports RUST if that's your flavour

[waxen bough]

At least I got my reverse TFT feathers the other day... Same processor (more pins)

[unreal bay]

Check out the UfL version for external aerial

[hasty loom]

Oh well, I didn't REALLY need it HA HA... I tried.

[sand lotus]

Biggest difference between S2 & S3 that I've come across with single core vs dual core is the S3 does much better with TFT's and big projects. If you want to do animations the S3 is better than an S2.

[shell mason]

great qty py

[viral sail]

Thanks @haughty quiver

[shell mason]

lars qty py

[haughty quiver]

ah thanks for that clarification

[cinder wind]

Larsy Py

[sand lotus]

Great pick this week. Have a great week JP.

[inner spade]

Thanks!

[opaque hearth]

Thanks JP! great deal. Trying to get my niece going with synthio!

[haughty quiver]

oh nice!

[waxen bough]

Great Pick today (missed it) . A lot more popular than the legacy joystick adapter, I bet.

[haughty quiver]

hahaha

that one is highly niche

[upbeat coral]

Hey Y'll

[open surge]

good morning

[vagrant flax]

[opaque hearth]

GoodMorning! ☕

[rocky reef]

3DHangouts Episode 413 LIVE! Tombstone, HAL 9000 and Pool Noodle Sword

#3DPrinting https://www.youtube.com/adafruit/live

Today's coupon code “tombstone” gets you 10% off your order!

[wise iris]

good morning!

[clever summit]

🇸🇪 👋

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/the-one-and-only-batman-gif-26653923

[sand lotus]

Good morning all ☕

speaking of hub75, got all my brackets done.

brackets, lots of hub75 brackets

i liked the gargoyle project. the "i smell children" was somewhat disconcerting.

that's a good idea for an outdoor cable.

the raven is awesome and the servo motor almost sounds like a raven when it moves.

i never noticed the cable out of the tail until the end of the video where it was pointed out

it's never too early for halloween

[clever summit]

Here are my HUB75 brackets/connectors.
https://www.printables.com/model/486974-p4-rgb-matrix-connectors

Comes with feets as well.

[sand lotus]

Successfully running 9 on the Matrix Portal S3 now, will bring it on show and tell tonight.

[clever summit]

Only issue is that there are LOADS of different panels, so my brackets might not even fit. 🙂

[sand lotus]

Nice Jonny's got the P4 covered and I did the P5's.

https://www.printables.com/model/578204-hub75-5mm-pitch-4-panel-bracket

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/hytale-hytale2021-2021-game-juego-gif-20998286

[sand lotus]

oh i thought that was real for a second

[shell mason]

you maybe able to do it with those spinning led hologram makers

[upbeat coral]

I think my Google Nest Doorbell just got redesigned.

[sand lotus]

matching the threads on that would be tough

laser noodle

looks great for a youngling to run around with on halloween

the filament you used is gorgeous

i think hurricane Lee is pulling up all the tropical air, i noticed it was starting to cool off then Lee came around

that dual color horn is awesome. multi filament printers make me jealous. maybe i'll get into that someday.

[vagrant flax]

Thanks for the show Pedro and Noe!

[sand lotus]

great episode thank you.

Asokha is out now? Gotta check that out. thank you for the reminder.

[unreal bay]

Thanks guys

[upbeat coral]

Thank you for taking time for us

[rocky reef]

thanks so much for hanging out folks!

[hard hollow]

thanks folks! cya tonight

[haughty quiver]

https://streamyard.com/jeprue75rf

come on by!

[tulip canyon]

Howdy all 👋

[upbeat coral]

Hey Y'll

[open surge]

good evening

[nova totem]

Ah a fun night of I changed nothing but my camera won't work...

[haughty quiver]

doh!

[brave matrix]

Does this mean no coupon code tonight?

[rocky reef]

s&t is on: https://streamyard.com/jeprue75rf

[rapid hornet]

👋

[inner spade]

👋

[cinder wind]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-viralhog-snacking-raccon-cute-gif-18898873

did someone say snacks?

ESP32-S2/S3 are already such a great platform for CircuitPython, so happy to hear about possible speedups!

omg yay json_streams !

[tulip canyon]

Cool Liz, I need to look at ESPN APIs

NFL/NHL have nice SVG logos you can copy as well

[cinder wind]

neat, @split gazelle! Can't wait to learn about json_streams from your guide

[split gazelle]

the python script for the images: https://adafruit-playground.com/u/BlitzCityDIY/pages/prepping-images-for-an-iot-rgb-matrix-project

[split gazelle]

yeah! it's super cool and was just added to the bundle

[cinder wind]

who is "Tom B Stone" that the discount code is about?

[nova totem]

Moisture and wires for weather stations were a non-stop source of pain for my weather station

[tulip canyon]

Are those chips legal to ship to Zaqistan?

[sand lotus]

amazing project joey!

[nova totem]

What size battery did you use for that?

Wait until winter (though looks like you don't get it like here)

@sand lotus once you put your hand in front of it the size is really apparent. That's awesome

[proven crow]

https://tenor.com/view/b2tf-back-to-the-future-gif-24927180

[modern night]

Oh that powersupply sounds really good!

[split gazelle]

sport sport sport

looks great @nova totem

[sand lotus]

⚡ real life emoji lightning detector

[modern night]

oh that's an amazing project! I might need to build one... >.>

[sand lotus]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018TEAPRQ running 2 of these and probably close to maxing them both.

[tulip canyon]

AM radio especially

[upbeat coral]

We're having a storm here at the moment.

[sand lotus]

love all the weather projects.

Congrats on detecting lighting too @nova totem

[viral sail]

Thanks everyone and good night. 🌑

[nova totem]

Thanks!

[upbeat coral]

Thank you to all for taking time for us.

[dry marten]

Thanks for the show 👍🏽

[nova totem]

And sorry to everyone for the shaky hand-cam!

[tulip canyon]

Thanks all for sharing. Thanks JP

[open surge]

thanks everyone!

[inner spade]

Some great projects tonight. Thanks!

[haughty quiver]

Great projects, so fun! thanks everyone

[sand lotus]

amazing project @neat geyser great install and custom board. very impressive!

[modern night]

Do you know how you found the writeup for the lightning on the chip? That's a pretty neat project

[nova totem]

The board I built myself (and plan to writeup/post the source, the past version is on my github now). The link I read was: https://sites.google.com/view/as3935workbook/home#h.asl5g8l6vj54

[modern night]

Oh thank you! A related (ish) project I've seen is this: https://www.blitzortung.org/en/cover_your_area.php
Which is really cool, but is very difficult to build from a parts accessibility perspective (And probably from more perspectives, that was just my first stumbling block so I stopped digging further 😅 ) so thank you for sharing this as it's a better avenue for me!

[nova totem]

I think I had stumbled on that as well. This is for sure easier and that other link gave a lot of great advice of how to configure the chip. All the parts were $20 or just less didn't price it out that closely

[modern night]

that's fantastic, thank you for sharing!

[lilac tusk]

Was there an announcement about AAE not happening this evening?

?showtimes

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Sunday Evening
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/ Foamyguy - 5pm ET Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 11am ET Saturdays

[lilac tusk]

(I wasn’t able to catch S&T)

Ah yeah, okie dokie no AAE

[haughty quiver]

hi there all!

[shell mason]

lets the lars party on workshop begins

[open surge]

good afternoon!

[clever summit]

🇸🇪 👋

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/aesthetic-gamer-nintendo-switch-anime-gif-25992157

[inner spade]

Howdy! Always great to be back in the workshop.

[shell mason]

the workshop with friends

https://tenor.com/view/tmnt-leonardo-gamer-arcade-arcade-machine-gif-23486147

[split gazelle]

good afternoon folks

[sand lotus]

Sold out of the Qt Py's like hot pies

[inner spade]

… and press both buttons for a duet.

[shell mason]

Lars arcade controller for nintendo switch

very nice JP

[sand lotus]

    music.play_tone(297, music.beat(BeatFraction.Half))
    music.play_tone(330, music.beat(BeatFraction.Half))
    music.play_tone(262, music.beat(BeatFraction.WHOLE))
    music.play_tone(131, music.beat(BeatFraction.Half))
    music.play_tone(196, music.beat(BeatFraction.WHOLE))

^ Close Encounters

[shell mason]

nice that site have midi tester

[cinder wind]

"Ex Bachs"? What is this some sort of anti-classical music stream?

[sand lotus]

audio sounds fine, recommend 3M VHB tape to stick the mic to the chest

[unreal bay]

finally a one button Up-Down-Left-Right-A+Start

[cinder wind]

hot glue is the best choice. and it hurts both going on and coming off!

[shell mason]

i bet fede2 might use this with milk-v duo

[sand lotus]

that sounds so painful

this is one of the feature rich automatic configurators i've seen, this is honestly really amazing.

I've never seen that breakout before. Interesting looking.

really great way to make your own controller setups. i'm sure a lot of people will have fun with that.

neat project! thank you for the stream. have a great week!

[unreal bay]

Thanks JP for the GP2040 heads up and show, very useful

[cinder wind]

thanks JP!

[inner spade]

Thanks!

[open surge]

thanks JP!

[haughty quiver]

thanks much all!

[eager matrix]

5x5

[inner spade]

Good afternoon!

[eager matrix]

Hi Scott.

[wheat terrace]

👋

[shell mason]

to deep dive

[eager matrix]

I'm curious about your shirt.

[brazen grove]

moinmoin

[timid plover]

we can filter out the fan noise - does the AC need to be near the window?

[wheat terrace]

sound is good... it feels colder here though, just with the sound...

[inner spade]

Sometimes a notch filter at 120 Hz can help with fan motor audio noise.

[timid plover]

so it would be difficult to move it further away from the mike

we want you to "stay cool" !

another trick would be to "pre-cool'" the room ahead of time

[mystic atlas]

oops sorry boyt that, wrong server

[eager matrix]

Here in Buffalo I did that yesterday but with my heat. It started getting kind of cool at night.

[shell mason]

the fan what is controlled with circuitpython

[sand lotus]

how are devs working on 9 when 8.x is main. is there a 9.x main?