live-broadcast-chat

[verbal river]

I put off ordering for a day, then realize what the problem is before ordering. 😄
(but there's also another problem I don't find until later.)

[slow spire]

Yeah, this might be the way to go. https://www.adafruit.com/product/4323

[nova totem]

the #help-with-hw-design channel may have someone willing to give a design a quick once over on a design too

[cinder wind]

FunHouse is a great board. ESP32-S2 and a really nice quality TFT display

[turbid hill]

funhouse also has touch buttons

[viral sail]

Thanks @open girder and good night. 🌔

[vagrant flax]

Thanks for the show!

[verbal river]

Bye!

[cinder wind]

Thanks Limor, thanks pt!

[upbeat coral]

Thank you for taking time for us

[noble grove]

Thanks

[slow spire]

Thanks, @open girder

[proven crow]

Bye all, thanks for a great show @open girder!

[turbid hill]

zenor should be updated to surface mount

[austere pollen]

👍 👍 👍 Thank you. Yes, that (or the 4.1) is definitely on my list

[turbid hill]

oops no zenor

[austere pollen]

Thanks everyone

[dim knot]

Night all!

[inner spade]

Good afternoon!

Just working on an AIO miniMQTT session timeout issue today whilst watching the deep dive. Getting close to a solution, hopefully.🤞

[wheat terrace]

Good afternoon (PST)!

[inner spade]

Thanks. Will take a look.

[left ember]

which ide is that(noob here)?

[brisk bone]

PyCharm I believe

[left ember]

It let you write directly to the board?

[brisk bone]

You can do that with any IDE, CircuitPython boards act as a USB drive, so you can edit files directly on them

[left ember]

ahh cool - feel so out of touch - haven't really programmed in forever and only tinkered with arduino stuff as necessary

[brisk bone]

It is quite easy with CircuitPython, especially considering you do not have to compile your code

[left ember]

no worries i see the link you got to

[smoky island]

https://learn.adafruit.com/welcome-to-circuitpython/pycharm-and-circuitpython

[unreal bay]

Top lines (red) too low

[left ember]

how's fancyled parity to fastled?

cool yeah i was kind working my way through the various guides

[smoky island]

Starting up for the morning now, working on trying to make text outline within bitmaps. You can follow along on twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch or YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EIKAhHbFBg

[clever summit]

Hey Tim!

I am troubleshhoting my Zigbee network with a spectrum analyzer. Was very interesting.

Zigbee uses 2.4 GHz so interference from WiFi....

My take on this is I have a new neighbour with a faulty AP.

[sand lotus]

good morning ☕

[inner spade]

☕

[sand lotus]

I've done something like that with bitmap labels. It's cheaty but works. https://github.com/DJDevon3/My_Circuit_Python_Projects/tree/main/Font Styles

it's just 4 of the same offset by 1 or 2px

and because there are layers it works

having a library that has stroke, outline, etc built in as an option/arg would be awesome

[brisk bone]

Hello, a bit late, was finishing yesterday's Deep Dive

Regarding yellow lines in docs, these are emphasized lines configured in examples.rst, like the most important parts

[sand lotus]

ice is a visual imagry illusion kind of

using different colors

[brisk bone]

And thanks for your testing, will fix what needs fixing and will implement the return in .poll as you suggested

[sand lotus]

won't be able to hang out today have an appointment soon. will definitely rewatch it tonight. very interested to see what you come up with!

[open girder]

WE ARE LIVE! The Desk of Ladyada - All American Audio BFF & MatrixPortal https://youtu.be/g58u8pounSI

[lilac tusk]

Herro 👋

[viral sail]

Good evening.

[lilac tusk]

‘Merica

https://tenor.com/view/eagle-logo-gif-26417813

[sand lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/america-hurricane-happy4th-of-july-america-flag-independence-day-gif-21259025

[lilac tusk]

LCD peripheral?

[sand lotus]

The S3 for the matrixportal makes a lot of sense.

[lilac tusk]

Wow the LCD Driver supports intel 8080 LCD drivers

[sand lotus]

I've been using an S3 with the RGB matrix featherwing for a while. It's super fast. Twice as fast as with the S2 + featherwing. Actually had to slow it down because the marquee was flying by too fast even with double buffering.

S3 + MatrixPortal and PyPortal will be awesome.

[lilac tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/dang-joe-dirt-david-spade-gif-5236783

Samd51 is just.. so far away

[sand lotus]

Even though I don't live near a subway I enjoyed seeing people do subway time tables with them. https://blog.adafruit.com/2021/08/25/the-mta-portal-shows-the-train-arrival-times-for-your-stations-matrixportal-circuitpython-mta/

oh micro bodges, impressive. i couldn't do that.

[covert crag]

I'm arriving late (YT's "remind me" thing seems to do nothing), though cool to see that there's seemingly going to be an S3 update to the Matrixportal and the PyPortal (?). Only thing I'm wondering about is how, last I checked, the S3 still had some annoying bugs in CP?

what a cute[e] box

[open girder]

The S3 is not as stable as the S2, newer ESP boards tend to take a while, but we think it's worth the tradeoff to have high speed Matrix driving. most of the S3 annoyances have been with clock-stretching I2C

[covert crag]

trying to remember if deep sleep is properly fixed, I half remember it was but it's blurry now, and likely to be a bit less important for this board

[sand lotus]

that's a nice idea. getting rx/tx backwards is very common and when it's hard traced it becomes a big mistake. a switch makes so much sense.

[open girder]

S3 Deep sleep definitely works in Arduino IDE / ESPIDF so it can be fixed in circuitpython

[verbal river]

Yeah there's lots of sizes. I needed to find a DC jack to match an old laptop charger, to power a project - it took some measurement and guesswork to find the right size.

[sand lotus]

even a lot of led strips use 2.1 barrel, great for doing barrel splitters too.

[covert crag]

waits for the EU to fully ban DC jacks alongside the impending PVC ban

(I am personally hyped for the PVC ban, silicone/TPU cables are so much nicer)

[sand lotus]

Most US home breakers are 15A so rarely would ever try to go above 10A on a single shared home power line.

I like the through hole because the plug in/out can take a lot of abuse over time. SMD can break off but probably easier for pick and place?

[tiny grove]

I think the bigger reason is reflow soldering.

[covert crag]

https://tenor.com/view/just-jack-sean-hayes-jack-mcfarland-will-and-grace-gif-9638634

Yeah I remember breaking the USB connector on a bluetooth speaker years ago, when I took it apart I'm pretty sure it was an SMT connector

[viral sail]

Thanks and good night. 🌕

[verbal river]

Bye

[hard hollow]

☕️👋🏽

[rocky reef]

3DHangouts Episode 403 LIVE in 20 mins! Magic Wand, Adabot and David Planter https://www.youtube.com/adafruit/live

[upbeat coral]

Hey Y'll

[lavish patrol]

👋 😀

Noe and Pedro are in da house.

[rocky reef]

good morning, afternoon and evening to everyone around the world

[urban gale]

Hiya!

[lavish patrol]

Oh, yes. I forgot. I changed my username... 🤔

[rocky reef]

Today's coupon code “magicwand” gets you 10% off your order!

[lavish patrol]

🪄

[austere pollen]

2040 = ♥️

[lavish patrol]

Lol. It looks like a giant icecream cone...

[urban gale]

a panel-mounted USB extender would help if you want access to program the board

[lavish patrol]

Just Googled Omnifixo... Out of stock. 🙁

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-power-outage-outage-flashlight-scared-gif-16879818

it could be funny to have the light what you can direct what is more focused

[lavish patrol]

👍

[shell mason]

like lighthouse but inside light torch

[lavish patrol]

[urban gale]

aw that's cute!

Print that guy a crutch 😂

[upbeat coral]

FINALLY! after two years trying I managed Pi4 8gb. Now to fill my Pi Zero 2W need.

[shell mason]

aperture thing for eyes and camera behind the eye

[gusty wedge]

Will you be using something like https://www.adafruit.com/product/775 ?

[urban gale]

I love the use of magnets for assembly

[rocky reef]

Today's coupon code “magicwand” gets you 10% off your order!

[gusty wedge]

The RISCV alternatives to raspberries are quite nice now. The Lichee Pi 4a is faster, and the milkv mars is just comming out in china.

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/kammy-kammy-koopa-paper-mario-paper-mario-the-thousand-year-door-pm64-gif-22630830

[opaque tundra]

I remember scanning him, great remix 😄

[lavish patrol]

Now that's using your head...

[gusty wedge]

Ty folks. Great show.

[lavish patrol]

Great hangout again, guys. 👍

[vagrant flax]

Thanks y'all, great show as always 😄

[upbeat coral]

Thank you for taking time for us

[urban gale]

great show guys! TY!

[hard hollow]

Thanks folks! cya tonight

[shell mason]

thumbstick with button for the light up and rotary for light on top could make it more nice tweak

[rocky reef]

thanks so much for hanging out folks!

[proven crow]

Hey all!

[haughty quiver]

hi!

[nova totem]

Evening everyone

[mellow arrow]

hi!

[open girder]

Link to join to show and share your project! https://streamyard.com/5j8ki459p6 & THE SHOW! WE ARE LIVE! SHOW AND TELL! https://youtu.be/FaSoNhTjnHY

[mellow arrow]

thought I would share a short update on my I2C Cleint devices

[upbeat coral]

Hey Y'll

[rapid hornet]

hi all!

[open surge]

good evening

[verbal river]

Hi! I have a synth module to show - Mouse in streamyard

[nova totem]

Is the RP2040 USB host support for CP still in a pre-pre-branch? I wanted to look at it but ... life

[robust horizon]

https://github.com/jepler/editor

@nova totem yes it's far from merged at this point 😕

[nova totem]

Figured thanks. I still hope I get time to grab what there is to try it out

[robust horizon]

now that 8.2.0 is out, we are in a much better position to start pulling risky/destabilizing stuff into main

I'll be back in a bit for AaE, then re-watch S&T later. preemptive 'great projects all' though

[verbal river]

ooh magic transparent kid toy

[rapid hornet]

@nova totem nearly same state as last week. thach did PR some of the dependent changes I made

[glad ember]

I'm super excited about this. Reminds me of writing BASIC on my ti84

[rapid hornet]

will be sorting out what's left tomorrow

[tulip canyon]

"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain." – Roy Batty

[nova totem]

Cool thanks, it'll probably still be a week+ till I have a moment, but I have a project I want to test it on

[tulip canyon]

Love Phil B's drip code. So cool

[verbal river]

oh wow that's a great effect

[nova totem]

Love that code

[rapid hornet]

hopefully I'll have a PR out by the end of next week

[smoky island]

Brilliant idea, the glow stand-offs look great!

[haughty quiver]

@verbal river that's great!

@split gazelle the glowing risers are awesome looking!

[split gazelle]

@haughty quiver thanks!

[verbal river]

My synth project: https://len42.github.io/Synth/

I haven't posted this module yet

[split gazelle]

@smoky island outline text looks great!

[nova totem]

Love that look @smoky island

I put the streams on in the background as I work on my projects as well

[smoky island]

Love the clean eink UI display with your sensor readings. Great job! Thank you and congrats on your library submission 🎉

[rapid hornet]

looks great @tulip canyon

[split gazelle]

@verbal river 👏👏

[verbal river]

thanks 😄

[smoky island]

Amazing projects, thanks for sharing everyone.

[nova totem]

Great projects all, packed night!

[tulip canyon]

Thanks all for sharing. So much inspiration.

[open girder]

WE ARE LIVE! ASK AN ENGINEER! https://youtu.be/cg0Oy8ZwAJk

10% discount code, code is: sensi http://www.adafruit.com ends at midnight NYC time

[dim knot]

https://www.adafruit.com/free

[tulip canyon]

Vancouver Port Workers are striking right now. Day 4

[rich wing]

Most disruptive since the last UPS strike...

[slow spire]

Hi, all!

[tulip canyon]

Agreed. Ring Doorbells by Amazon track their delivery workers as a side-effect

[waxen fulcrum]

Does anyone know how to integrate magnets into a wireless charging module like MagSafe because using a magnet right now on a charging module makes it interfere with the magnetic field and stops charging. But I want it to be flat and seamless. (Like the MagSafe on iPhone)

[turbid monolith]

hey phillip

[slow spire]

I found this: https://www.instructables.com/How-to-DIY-a-Magnetic-Car-Mount-QI-Wireless-Charge/

[waxen fulcrum]

Thank you

[short chasm]

PT (or other adafruit peeps), if you want a Bsky invite, let me know. i have a few

[dim knot]

https://learn.adafruit.com/guides/latest

[verbal river]

what flavour is that solder paste?

[slow spire]

Forbidden MintyFresh

[tulip canyon]

remember x10

[slow spire]

LOL! 🌯

[verbal river]

wait is guacamole the session layer? I can never remember.

[slow spire]

Via Nokia:

[tulip canyon]

"Alexa, Google the Siri Lights"

[delicate fractal]

The real question: What do Financial and Political layers map to in the burrito?

[nova totem]

I'm going to be driving by Digikey in a few days, wonder if i can have them just throw stuff towards me as I go by

[verbal river]

Maybe they have a drive-thru?

[slow spire]

Ummm... receipt and foil wrapper maybe?

[harsh pebble]

George keeps telling me there is a Discord chat! Hopefully I found the right one.

[slow spire]

Welcome, @harsh pebble

[dim knot]

Adafruit "My Little Hacker" ESP32-S2 Development Board https://www.adafruit.com/product/5742

[harsh pebble]

What’s happening, Eric!

[delicate fractal]

Yeah. I think you nailed it there…

[dim knot]

Adafruit QT Py S3 with 2MB PSRAM WiFi Dev Board with STEMMA QT https://www.adafruit.com/product/5700

Raspberry Pi Pico WH - Pico Wireless with Headers Soldered https://www.adafruit.com/product/5544

[harsh pebble]

Now that the YouTube mini-player continues to display when you background the app, I think I can make this work!

[dim knot]

JST SH 1mm Pitch 3 Pin to Socket Headers Cable - 100mm long https://www.adafruit.com/product/5765

JST SH Compatible 1mm Pitch 3 Pin to Premium Male Headers Cable - 100mm long https://www.adafruit.com/product/5755

JST GH 1.25mm Pitch 6 Pin Cable - 100mm long https://www.adafruit.com/product/5754

PlayStation Extension Cable - Compatible with PS1 and 2 - 2 Meters https://www.adafruit.com/product/5773

Adafruit Sensirion SHT41 Temperature & Humidity Sensor - STEMMA QT / Qwiic https://www.adafruit.com/product/5776

[delicate fractal]

I’ve been wondering… there’s a bunch of chips that are customized for this or that wireless protocol… has anyone done a “simple” ARM-customized-for-SDR, leaving the IF stage and antenna (not to mention software) to the application designer?

[harsh pebble]

Love me some Top Secret.

[slow spire]

🕵️

[verbal river]

Better than ice cream? 🤔

[robust horizon]

question: do the RTK modules have more accurate time too?

eyes widen at the price

[delicate fractal]

It’s just a figure of speech! Nothing is better than ice cream except cheese.

[slow spire]

@open girder Question: Do we know if the Ublox module needs additional transmitters on the ground for the centimeter accuracy? Or will it do that with satellites alone?

[nimble jackal]

This Is MERKA!

[robust horizon]

@slow spire based on a brief look https://www.u-blox.com/en/technologies/rtk-real-time-kinematic maybe so?

Before Integer Ambiguity Resolution (IAR) can take place and for it to be successful, the errors in the signals must be corrected. The correction data is provided to the user receiver by a nearby local reference station, with a known position, or by a network of reference stations in a Network RTK setup.

[slow spire]

Thanks. Hopefully cheaper base stations (ground transmitters) emerge.

[harsh pebble]

Will there ever be another Xilinx FPGA in the shop?

[nimble jackal]

Saw this. Kinda messed up. 👀

[nova totem]

Every time this movie comes up my friend yells at me that I haven't just watched it all at once

[robust horizon]

glorious

[tulip canyon]

lol. Great film

[verbal river]

babyada has a strong opinion about this.

[robust horizon]

so happy to play a small part in teddy freeman or whatever we're calling that

[tulip canyon]

Now get the Gruby animatronic to play Tim Robbins character

[waxen fulcrum]

Ok thank you!

[short chasm]

QUESTION: when building a boost circuit, is it possible to limit the current draw? How?

[harsh pebble]

Cool. Thanks.

[echo canopy]

Question @open girder

The baby hacking board if the toy is on and runs the batteries at a very low voltage? Will the ESP be subject to brownout if the voltage gets too low ? Is there an automatic shut off ? Or anyway to to read the battery stats ? Or would that be a Qwiic board addition?

[delicate fractal]

(For those who don’t know: IF stage is short for Intermediate Frequency; typically, SDR systems will do a little processing in analog before digitizing. If you’re working with many possible channels, usually you shift the frequency of interest to an intermediate level before amplifying etc…)

[viral sail]

Thanks @open girder and good night. 🌖

[tulip canyon]

Thank you @open girder Thanks PT and Limor. Have a great night.

[harsh pebble]

Thanks, Adafruit! Have a great night, Everyone!!!

[open surge]

Thanks Adafruit, good show!

[rich wing]

Dev board with headset profiles? For taking in and sending audio ?

[slow spire]

Thanks, @open girder !

[verbal river]

Bye!

[dim knot]

Night all!

[vagrant flax]

[nova totem]

Have a great night everyone

[waxen fulcrum]

Night Everyone

[rich wing]

Pre loved bears are the best!!!

[robust horizon]

ZED-F9P and NEO-M9V modules both have 30ns RMS time pulse accuracy per the respective datasheets. That's comparable to the time it takes a photon to go 10m..

[small current]

I'm livin' in Vietnam and i wanna buy this one but the shipping fee be so expensive. So how can i get it with cheaper shipping fee ?

[sand lotus]

Please post this in #general-chat

Live broadcast chat is only used during Adafruit Live streams

[small current]

Ahh okey thanks so much

[lavish patrol]

Morning/afternoon/evening all. 👋

[haughty quiver]

hi!

[ivory flax]

Hi John... We missed you this week. Hope you had a great time off

[open surge]

👋

[gaunt plume]

👋

[lavish patrol]

The voice of Lars...

[sand lotus]

Good afternoon

[split gazelle]

good afternoon folks

[lavish patrol]

1080p 👍

[sand lotus]

1080p? 🤞

[lavish patrol]

Lol

[wheat burrow]

woohoo

[grand tusk]

Wow that's crisp!

[lavish patrol]

Sometimes it remembers the setting from previous streams etc.

[sand lotus]

Looks amazing in 1080p.

[lavish patrol]

@haughty quiver What does 1080p look like on your "new" TV? 😄

[clever summit]

🇸🇪 👋

[lavish patrol]

Good evening @clever summit 👋

[sand lotus]

You have a lot with makecode on it

[lavish patrol]

Perthic Cylon...

[clever summit]

Four feet, two hands and a finger?

[sand lotus]

They did something like that with stargate movie when the pyramid transforms.

[grand tusk]

Mic check?

[lavish patrol]

Yep. It went quiet suddenly...

[sand lotus]

Its fine now

Slightly quieter probably just rubbed on the shirt not a big deal.

[split gazelle]

The lav had moved but when you adjusted it was fine

[dusk socket]

you are back now

[lavish patrol]

It's Ok now.

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/bladerunner1982-bladerunner-bladerunner2019-rickdeckard-ridleyscott-gif-24127445

[grand tusk]

JP can make music wherever he goes!

[sand lotus]

Satisfying organized angled resistors

Beautiful print. Love the copper highlight.

Mmm its got arp though. 😀 sounds good.

[lavish patrol]

Sounds good.

[shell mason]

sounds great

[sand lotus]

Oh yum that sounds awesome

[unreal bay]

Mmm synthy, nice time to arrive, although far too much missed already

[lavish patrol]

Nice SciFi vibe.

[grand tusk]

Will this run on ESP32-S2 Feather?

[lavish patrol]

It's getting more sinister.

[grand tusk]

lol

[sand lotus]

Wonderfully done @cinder wind

[lavish patrol]

@cinder wind 👍

[ivory flax]

sounds like the music in Logan's Run

[lavish patrol]

Yep

[unreal bay]

Omg, John parks username is Jep, is he secretly also jepler but using stage makeup 💄

[shell mason]

Lars Tyrell

[shell mason]

andy might have made Lars hologram what fits for Blade Runner during tyrell

[sand lotus]

Heres a list of boards that can run synthio https://docs.circuitpython.org/en/latest/shared-bindings/synthio/index.html

[unreal bay]

1080p extra long broadcast. Sir you are spoiling us

[sand lotus]

Very nice custom design.

[lavish patrol]

This is the 3D Hangouts segment of John Park's Workshop... 😉

[sand lotus]

If the angles are more than 45 degrees usually doesn’t need supports.

Looks great, very well done. You scrunched the electronics in there very well too.

[lavish patrol]

Cool model.

[sand lotus]

Only way to make it smaller would need a custom pcb.

[shell mason]

one could be nice for different things for smaller eletronics

[sand lotus]

Its harder to go smaller. So its impressively scrunched.

[shell mason]

one could be like slide the board in perhaps

[tulip canyon]

Big fan of Blender

[sand lotus]

Thank you for another cool episode.

[lavish patrol]

Great Workshop again, @haughty quiver 😀

[tulip canyon]

Thanks JP have a great week

[open surge]

Thanks JP, good show!

[dry marten]

Thanks for the awesome show.

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/bladerunner2049-real-reality-harrison-ford-gif-16912435

[tulip canyon]

👋

[brisk bone]

Hi, I have a question regarding PyPortal, on the website it says it has 256KB of RAM, while e.g. ESP32-S2 Feather has 2MB of PSRAM,, is it really ~8x diffrence? Seems a bit strange that the board with bigger screen has so much less memory?

[tulip canyon]

I did have a question Tim
Last week you mentioned libraries that were frozen-in and not needed/used in the lib folder.
How would you determine which libraries are frozen?
thank you

[brisk bone]

RAM is mentioned in Primary Guide, but you are right, makes sense considering it's age

[tulip canyon]

ty 👍

[amber sluice]

Do you already know what the outlined label looks like/will look like as you're developing this?

I was referring to the visual aspect, but I appreciate learning a bit more about your development process too. Thanks!

[sand lotus]

good evening

this is like a real outline or stroke and customizable. awesome.

use bitmap saver, take a screenshot, transfer it to the PC, and zoom in with gimp 🙂

i remember Dan talking about working on that last year sometime as a far off milestone maybe, where the SD card will show up as a USB drive in the PC. would make file transfers much easier. would never have to remove the SD card.

it would be dreamy though and was a great idea, maybe someday.

i don't know anything about USB host devices people have been working on lately. possible to use something like that and instead of hosting externally could host the sd card? i dunno. would love to have that feature.

honestly on boards where i have an sd card the only thing i use it for is music and screenshots

what does padding do? is that for within the rect?

nice feature to have. i've been cheating and using 4 labels to do it but it would cause such a huge performance hit even on an s2 or s3 i stopped using it. this will hopefully be a more efficient way to go.

[tulip canyon]

Thank you Tim. Have a great weekend everyone

[sand lotus]

looking forward to coffee with you tomorrow.

and by performance hit i mean displaying 10 labels all with outlines using sensor or API data would actually be 40 labels.

[smoky island]

Getting started for the morning now. I'm continuing work on the Outlined Label class. You can follow along on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch or YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sce0O3i4sIc

[inner spade]

Good morning! ☕

[unreal bay]

Happy Saturday all. Is that outline a requested feature? Also, does drop shadow exist? (offset on the outline and layered behind)

thats really intersting thanks. sorry for an early derail / rabbbit-hole

[sand lotus]

good morning everyone ☕

[unreal bay]

oh thats clever

my old school mindset was use a duplicate text layer behind in shadow colour and offset 1px x+y, but it fails for larger shadows

its the classic way to do a 3d button

[sand lotus]

yeah it works well but you quadruple the resources used per label x4 for every label doing it the way i came up with. It's fine for a few labels.

[unreal bay]

How does a user know whats valid, assuming its a dynamic value. Probably unlikely, but imagine scaling text for a UI. Does it make more sense to just floor it or whatever, or am I overcomplicating as usual

[inner spade]

An outline smaller than a transparent font may be desirable

[sand lotus]

even on an S2 or S3 there are 5 labels here which x4 is about 20 labels, tedious to setup and will slow most microcontrollers to a crawl loading it.

[unreal bay]

give label more padding first

[inner spade]

I can think of a use case where the text is transparent and only the outline appears. In that case, the outline would need to be the same size as the transparent text. Wouldn’t want an exception, perhaps just a warning.

[unreal bay]

was there some attribute missing error ealier in the output?

sorry my bad, yesterdays not watched

got you

[sand lotus]

The USA example shown was intentionally done just to show there are 4 separate labels and how they're offset.

It's cheaty but was the only way to do it at the time. Was waiting for the day when someone like FoamyGuy would come along and make a better method.

and btw you can't do that on Arduino, well since the last time I used it, because a background color was always required. So just having text without a background color in itself was what really sold me on using circuit python full time instead of arduino.

[unreal bay]

the display speed kills me on cpy. lvgl + arduino rocks, but not lovely and friendly like CPY

[sand lotus]

yes, that's one downside :/

[hexed scaffold]

(two naive questions) (a) Is there a place I can see the in-progress code 🙂 (b) I was thinking that many "effect adders" (e.g. CSS) just clip the effect boundaries instead of runtime-failing; why did you end up deciding to failing rather than clip?

[sand lotus]

the trade off is worth it for making pretty gui projects which i'm really into.

[unreal bay]

await version CPY+lvgl 9, the bindings will be brushed up for mpy and no doubt adafruit will be looking

[smoky island]

https://github.com/foamyguy/Adafruit_CircuitPython_Display_Text/tree/outlined_label

https://gist.github.com/FoamyGuy/427a5494c5e74f09ce609a3aabca56e3

[hexed scaffold]

awesome, thx!

Ack - putting any clipping logic in the base library makes a lot of sense

[sand lotus]

These microcontrollers are about the size of a pack of gum. Embedded systems don't have the benefit of full python features.... yet.

If the upwards trend continues with the Metro M7 kind of thing it's possible someday Adafruit could have their own SBC. Starting from scratch is a long road.

I mean guys like Jepler and others have already emulated some legacy systems like run cpm and with Tannewt the stuff they're working on recently could lead to something pretty neat.

[unreal bay]

you've seen tiny-tapeout? combined with risc/fpga and some open-ip stuff, definitely a future likelyhood.

[sand lotus]

skerr is into that pretty heavily, made his own FPGA feather called icyblue 😉

Blit: a computer operation in which two bitmap patterns are combined i did not know that. neat terminology.

[unreal bay]

thats a new one

[sand lotus]

new to me, something from python?

or c?

[unreal bay]

i also only recently found e.with_traceback()

[hexed scaffold]

Did I gather that something got re-arranged in bitmaptools? (I was scrounging for the blit source, but only found arrayblit)

[sand lotus]

i haven't gotten into traceback stuff yet. don't wanna 😣

oh was working with requests library and stumbled upon KeyError as an exception handler. Is that a new thing added to adafruit_requests? It's very helpful but also if you use it, it doesn't tell you the line of the error.

[brazen chasm]

howsit guys 🇸🇪

[sand lotus]

like if there's a key:value error now there's an error handler for it.

hello blured

[hexed scaffold]

Thx for the tip on your PR for moving blit

[sand lotus]

stroke is important when you're using it with a background image especially random background images like slide shows.

technically an outline is only on the outside border of text. stroke also creates an outline inside the holes of the characters. so what you're creating is considered a stroke.

oh i thought it was, if it's a background fill in the characters then it's kind of a hybrid outline/stroke yeah.

[hexed scaffold]

[One unrelated note on https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/pull/8136 - it's a bit of a back-and-forth to understand the difference between arrayblit and blit; but maybe you have a plan for that already 🙂 ] thx for the fun look over your shoulder today.

[unreal bay]

thnx for stream 👋

[hexed scaffold]

I think what I meant to say is whether the clip behavior is identical (but looking at the code I think it might be doing the same thing.)

[sand lotus]

thank you for the stream, nice progress, looking great.

[hexed scaffold]

👏

[open girder]

WE ARE LIVE! Desk of Ladyada - Prince, Purple, and Prototypes https://youtu.be/IIzAAHXdWuk

[lilac tusk]

Evening 👋

[brazen quail]

Hola from 'rado ! 😄

[verbal river]

it's more like "Crib of BabyAda"

[lilac tusk]

Hola from Utah lol

Howdy neighbor

[sand lotus]

Cool paint job. Looks great.

[slow spire]

Hi all

[lilac tusk]

This toy hack is so darn cool

Question: i had seen someone mention the SL2.1 hub uses someone else’s VID/PID. Is that fixed in the chips you’ve sourced?

[open girder]

Huh can you find out where this was mentioned? if you email it to [e-mail] we can check it out!

[covert crag]

do you cut it for smaller batteries?

[sand lotus]

Beautiful accessibility breakout idea.

[lilac tusk]

sad_electronics on twitter mentioned it back in august last year and it was also mentioned by a cybersecurity researcher in a thread because the chip was used in a fraudulent SSD device sold by Walmart

https://twitter.com/RayRedacted/status/1563026905632161794?s=20

Ray [REDACTED] (@RayRedacted)

Check out this observation from @sad_electronics, who was also kind enough to send two pictures as well:

https://t.co/wCimOjUYEN

Likes

373

Twitter · Aug 26, 2022, 4:53 AM

[open girder]

Thanks, we don't see the part about the VID/PID? we'll keep looking

[lilac tusk]

You can search the VID/PID pair on the USBIF website

[covert crag]

Is a RP2040/ESP32-S2 (maybe with one of the tiny modules?) board with an EYESPI connector likely to be coming at some point? It's nice how EYESPI is soldering free, but I don't think you can currently use it with any Adafruit boards without soldering a breakout onto them first.

Oh and looking forward to the SEN54/55 Stemma QT breakout I think you mentioned might become a thing on New Products (on the same day I ordered a SEN55 and so many cables from Digikey heh).

[open girder]

@covert crag we have a QT Py BFF for now, can be soldered onto the back of any QT Py for a compact setup! https://www.adafruit.com/product/5772

[covert crag]

You do, but again, it has to be soldered.

[lilac tusk]

I’m a fan of the TUSB8042

Unfortunately $8.50 a single

[covert crag]

I mean if you're not ordering 2,000 what's even the point? 😉

[lilac tusk]

I know, I need to step up my game lol

I still need to order prototypes for the RPGA feather (rp2040 + lattice fpga)

Sales be slow 💀 so funds to make new products be low

[covert crag]

Has anyone ever found a lil USB hub/switch device that makes it super easy to power cycle USB devices without having to physically disconnect them? I guess maybe you could use this to make that? Oooh, could you maybe control it from serial, so you can just type a command into a terminal to power cycle a board?

[lilac tusk]

Anywhere USB can do that I think?

[covert crag]

?

[lilac tusk]

Yeah

Networked USB hub

[covert crag]

I mean for £530 I could pay someone to just unplug it for me 😉

[lilac tusk]

Lol

[sand lotus]

Thank you for another great episode of neat projects.

[lilac tusk]

I think there are cheaper versions

[open girder]

@covert crag you might be able to do it with the MCP I2C-controlled USB hub chips

[covert crag]

Night

[lilac tusk]

Thanks Adafruit! Inspired as always 🤩

TUSB8042 has GPIO functionality so you could use it to toggle a mosfet and cycle power

Also I was mistaken, I guess $300 is as cheap as anywhere usb gets

[open girder]

thanks all, and thanks @lilac tusk for the info re: usb stuff !

[unreal bay]

?showtimes-gmt

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 20:00 Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 16:00 Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 00:30 Thursdays
Ask an Engineer - 01:00 Thursdays
John Park's Workshop - 21:00 Thursdays
Deep Dive w/Foamyguy - 22:00 Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 16:00 Saturdays

[sand lotus]

?showtimes

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Sunday Evening
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/ Foamyguy - 5pm ET Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 11am ET Saturdays

[haughty quiver]

?showtimes-poughkeepsie

[cinder wind]

?showtimes-bbq

[inner spade]

?showtimes-sky-view-drive-in-movie-theater

[viral sail]

Good afternoon.

[sand lotus]

Hello 🙂

[austere pollen]

lol you can read my discord messages before I hit enter 😆. Iwas just gonna ask about that

[cinder wind]

yay synthio!

I think normally you'd set the gain with the screwdriver once, then adjust the volume in your code

[austere pollen]

Would this have any advantages over those MAX98357A I2S amps (that also do the DAC)? (Of course, there are MCUs that don't support I2S)

(I currently use a MAX98357A I2S AMP and I'm really impressed by the audio quality

[shell mason]

great amp

audio amp lets go

[viral sail]

Thanks @haughty quiver

[inner spade]

Thanks!

[austere pollen]

👋

[waxen bough]

I bought a few Adafruit speakers a while back. Maybe now I can make some noise!

[torpid path]

Does JPs product pick of week happen at the same time every Tuesday If so what time in NY does this start

[sand lotus]

here are times in eastern time

?showtimes

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Sunday Evening
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/ Foamyguy - 5pm ET Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 11am ET Saturdays

[sand lotus]

yes JP's Product pick of the week happens 4pm EST most Tuesdays. The discount only lasts for the duration of the live show, typically about 15-20 minutes.

[rocky reef]

good morning folks!

3DHangouts Episode 404 LIVE in 20 mins! Adabot, PropMaker Feather and Dragon Cup #3DPrinting https://www.youtube.com/adafruit/live

[viral sail]

Good morning everyone.

[urban gale]

Hi all!

[unreal bay]

in 20mins? Error, 404, episode not found 😉 or is it 418 I'm a teapot 🫖

[upbeat coral]

Hey Y'll

[sand lotus]

Guten Morgen ☕

[vagrant flax]

[sand lotus]

I'm just here to make sure Adabot is ok and has 2 legs again. 🙂

[halcyon linden]

Good morning all

[sand lotus]

pulsing lighting code by the way does conserve battery vs an always on LED. good way to still show battery isn't dead and make portable projects last a little longer.

because an always on LED for a battery powered project can drain the battery just in itself. same as leaving an interior light on in your car and coming back to a dead battery when you try to start your car in the morning.

your adabots are beautiful print quality too.

[rocky reef]

Today's coupon code “adabot” gets you 10% off your order!

[urban gale]

that is adorable

[sand lotus]

Get with Melissa or Jepler to hook it up to chatgpt to tell stories?

true, could use the canary code, there are so many possibilities with it.

audio notifications for mailboxes, print finishing, etc...

are you on a mac? it happens to me a LOT with not loading images on iOS anything

looks like the body is plenty big enough to fit the 2500mah but depends on how the interior is designed. you probably have a lot stuffed in there.

printables link so i can add to thing i want to make? 🙂

[rocky reef]

printables link is https://www.printables.com/model/525277-adabot-rp2040

[sand lotus]

Great job on the code @split gazelle adabot has a lot of personality now.

[rocky reef]

Learn Guide
https://learn.adafruit.com/adabot-rp2040/

Adafruit RP2040 PropMaker Feather https://www.adafruit.com/product/5768

[sand lotus]

you can use a soldering iron to heat set magnets but has to be done just right or you end up with a mess.

different color heat shrink tubing is a great tip

for a print this size PLA makes sense because PETG would take 3x to 4x longer because of the slower print speed associated with PETG.

[rocky reef]

3D Model of Feather RP2040 PropMaker
https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CAD_Parts/tree/main/5768 Feather RP2040 PropMaker

[sand lotus]

another way to do it would be a slip ring so the head could do 360's like R2D2. https://www.adafruit.com/product/1196

if you add stacking headers you can't really read the labels because they're right next to the pins, can always refers to the propmaker learn guide for pinouts.

yeah you'd only need a slipring with a continous servo

the cad parts library is awesome for making sure things fit just right. thanks to all the work you and everyone else who contributes models to it.

[urban gale]

How much weight can those clamps support?

[vagrant flax]

I need some of those clamps

[sand lotus]

ohh didn't know that existed. i could use one of those.

https://www.adafruit.com/product/5253

link for their site?

[vagrant flax]

instabuy

can't wait to get it!

[sand lotus]

https://omnifixo.com/

[vagrant flax]

😂

[sand lotus]

yes adafruit please stock them.

[rocky reef]

Dragon Pencil Cup By Puru Maz
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6069926
https://youtu.be/bNcIwnffAAM

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/bankroll-stack-plus-defi-dai-link-bat-vlt-bnkr-gif-17926488

[rocky reef]

https://www.printables.com/model/7145-mario-boo/comments/973466

https://www.printables.com/model/7152-3d-printed-unicorn-horn/comments/965692

https://www.printables.com/model/482760-epcot-spaceship-earth/comments/962683

[tiny grove]

Missed opportunity to call it the Adafruit Uni-horn.

[rocky reef]

Today's coupon code “adabot” gets you 10% off your order!

[vagrant flax]

Great show as always, thanks guys!

[rocky reef]

thanks so much for hanging out folks!

[urban gale]

Awesome show, guys! See ya'll later tonight

[unreal bay]

Thanks Guys.
You always need a spare PiZero2W, slimline pc

[upbeat coral]

Thank you for taking time for us

[haughty quiver]

https://streamyard.com/c3ysb8n3tz

[waxen thistle]

Good evening all you wonderful people!

...and yes, Lars too.

[rapid hornet]

👋

[haughty quiver]

Hello!

[open surge]

good evening

[tulip canyon]

Howdy all

[inner spade]

Hello!

[nova totem]

Evening all, if anyone has a project on getting a golf cart out of the side of a pond it would be timely for someone I know...

[sage aspen]

Hello everyone 👋

[dim wigeon]

Hi, everyone! 👋

[dusk socket]

Hi all John will tell it all

[upbeat coral]

Hey Y'll

[cinder wind]

we have beeping!

also: omg we have 1080p!

[rapid hornet]

1080p?

[open surge]

go away for vacation for one week and everything changes

[cinder wind]

JP is finally broadcasting in 1080p instead of his usual 720p.

[waxen thistle]

The more things change, the more they stay the same. Like Lars.

[cinder wind]

old man voice back in my day, we livestreamed with 160x120 4-bit grayscale!

[nova totem]

Those neopixel sticks are really handy for some cool effects

[tulip canyon]

Adabot 2000

[waxen thistle]

LarsBot?

[verbal river]

If you don't have a full slate, I can show some of the firmware & software for the synth module I showed last week. I'll go in streamyard rn.

[dim knot]

https://learn.adafruit.com/

[nova totem]

Best naming ever @cinder wind I'm with you. Never good on naming things anything that sounds cool

[cinder wind]

yeah it helps my brain

the professional modular synth people go way too far in the other direction, naming their products random Latin phrases and disguising common controls with fancy names ("oh 'etherial sunrise' means 'filter cutoff'!)

[dim wigeon]

I feel like this is a trend shared by a lot of tech startups generally.

[waxen thistle]

Thanks everyone for sharing! And thanks @haughty quiver for guest hosting!

[open surge]

great projects everyone, thanks for sharing!

[tulip canyon]

Great projects. Thanks all for sharing

[dim wigeon]

Thanks for sharing, everyone! Cool projects!

[unreal bay]

Thanks all, nice collection

[nova totem]

Great projects everyone

[inner spade]

Thanks all!

[cinder wind]

woohoo! thanks everyone

I started drinking before the Show-n-Tell, is that okay

[sand lotus]

phew that was down to the wire to get that one in

[upbeat coral]

Thanks to all for taking time for us

[cinder wind]

good job with the real-time demo!

[dim wigeon]

My project these past few weeks hasn;’t been a hardware one, and isn’t well suited to demo’ing on Show & Tell, but happy to report I had a 6-week post-op follow up with my neurosurgeon today and things are looking great. 😃 🥳

[sand lotus]

yeah went from hello world to fitbit api heartbeat on a tft within 15 minutes. copy/pasting your own code snippets ftw. 🙂

[open girder]

WE ARE LIVE! ASK AN ENGINEER! https://youtu.be/EOzkO33PnrI

[dim wigeon]

NICE!

[waxen thistle]

yay! jam!

So transparent 🙂

[tulip canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/the-abyss-abyss-scifi-gif-17881851

[dim knot]

https://www.adafruit.com/free

[sand lotus]

hahaha

[nova totem]

All these years later I'm still sad over that (As a kid I had the entire movie actually memorized)

[tulip canyon]

Roll out

[waxen thistle]

If you buy a book like "Art of Electronics" from Adafruit, it'll be a 100% legit copy unlike taking a risk at Amazon where you may get a commingled-inventory unauthorized copy.

[open girder]

10% discount code, code is: qtpyaudio http://www.adafruit.com ends at midnight NYC time

[tulip canyon]

They have no idea how it's going to make money after some U2 concerts

[austere pollen]

Adafruit giant LED screen sphere breakout board when? Will it be stemma QT?

[cinder wind]

wow they changed the rules if that's what basketballs look like now

[nova totem]

That is cool to see it from a "real" shot we know is real.

[sand lotus]

That's honestly more impressive than Disney's epcot ball. That is jaw dropping amazing... even during the day.

[dim knot]

https://learn.adafruit.com/

[cinder wind]

"Don't Be Evil°" (°some evil may apply)

[dim wigeon]

“Don’t Be Evil*” (*unless some investor is giving you a pile of cash)

[tiny grove]

"Don't be evil... unless it will give us an upper hand against our competitors. Then it's totally ok."

[dim wigeon]

When you take money from an investor, especially a lot of money, it’s hard for that not to be how you operate.

Unfortunately.

[tiny grove]

Indeed

[cinder wind]

This is PT Turbo Pro Gold+. I would subscribe to this service

[nova totem]

I've dealt with some half open/closed products lately and I have ran into frustrations I otherwise would never have

[cinder wind]

as a contract engineer, doing closed stuff is so frustrating. can't talk about, can't blog about, can't show github progress, etc

Thank you, pt!

[dim wigeon]

It feels like a lot of companies want to get the benefits of a vibrant Open Source community and ecosystem, but want to avoid the responsibilities that come with that. Which is unfortunate.

[tulip canyon]

Exiting from "open" seems cheap and low from a community contributor stand-point.
Ultimately community is what helps open succeed. Thank you @open girder Learn guides, libraries, blog, etc.

[waxen thistle]

If there isn't a community to support and enhance the product, there's now a greater responsibility and higher expectation on the manufacturer to maintain the ecosystem.

[sand lotus]

code + community

[slow spire]

Cuuuuuute 🤖

[dim wigeon]

I know I wouldn’t be nearly as invested in Adafruit’s products if it wasn’t also for the amazing community,

[open girder]

https://adafruit.com/changingfaceoshw

[sand lotus]

from the Ruiz Brothers and Liz is amazing. They really brought it to life in a great way.

[harsh pebble]

Awesome!

[dim wigeon]

It’s sooooo cute!

[waxen thistle]

Be careful of that Chopper -- he's a wily one.

[delicate fractal]

Hey PT: I don’t think this is the end, the beginning, or anything like that for open source. One of the reasons RMS went down the open source road was because of a problem he had with HP laser printers at Berkeley: originally he was supporting a prototype, with source access. HP had bugs that he had found and fixed, but they never integrated his patches, and then went closed when they went to market. As the French would say, plus ca change, plus c’est la meme chose.

[harsh pebble]

I think they’re making a Star Wars live action Rebels! 😉

[verbal river]

⚡

[cinder wind]

The new Ahsoka series has Rebels characters in it!

[open girder]

@delicate fractal agree!

[tulip canyon]

People who have no business doing 32.5 km/h

[harsh pebble]

When I saw the Ahsoka trailer I couldn’t believe seeing Chopper.

[delicate fractal]

So bikes are not cool either?

[tulip canyon]

E-things all good. People always driving max is not

[sand lotus]

oh fires, batteries, electronics... ok i'm in. let's do this.

[dim wigeon]

If you electrocute your customers, they can’t buy more than one product from you. 🤣

[sand lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-optimus-prime-optimus-prime-thumbs-up-gif-7566396

good transformers are good

[waxen thistle]

I remember the whole "hoverboard" debacle -- where they were made poorly, caught fire, and did not take you Back to the Future

[sand lotus]

it's because they couldn't do 88mph

[tulip canyon]

I'm looking to replace my old motorcycle lead-acid battery with a much lighter lipo battery.
Wondering if replacing headlight and turn bulbs with leds makes sense at the same time.

[nova totem]

be careful with current draw, if you weren't aware. A lot of batteries aimed at model planes/cars can provide more

[sand lotus]

that looks like a very generic schematic compared to what i'm used to seeing from adafruit 😉

[tulip canyon]

I'm curious what can be done to modernize the old wiring harnesses of motorcycles

[sand lotus]

new wires and connectors?

problem with automotive electronics is all the stuff exposed to the elements of rain and salt. corrosion of terminals, etc.. it's a different world of electronics.

[odd fox]

Q: I have a modified Ender 3 Pro with a Meanwell 24v 260w power supply. I am curious. Can the power supply be replaced with an external power brick? Assuming the Power Brick has the same Watts and Volts as the Meanwell PSU.

I should have said 360watts. Not 260...

[sand lotus]

🆕

[nova totem]

Those boost convertors would have saved me a lot of wiring on a project

[sand lotus]

and double stemma for chaining, chonky 7 segments.

[dim knot]

Adafruit ESP32-S2 Feather with BME280 Sensor - STEMMA QT - 4MB Flash + 2 MB PSRAM https://www.adafruit.com/product/5303

[dim wigeon]

The new Matrix Portal makes me wonder how much the parts shortage has hurt Microchip’s position in the MCU marketplace. It seemed for a while like EVERYTHING was SAMD…now it seems like there’s a huge amount of RP2040 and ESP32 stuff out there.

[cinder wind]

or... I can stack Matrix Portals onto each other and make a Matrix Portal Supercomputer!

[sand lotus]

I'm definitely getting one. S3 matrix portal.. umm heck yes!

[dim knot]

Adafruit 1.2" 4-Digit 7-Segment Display w/I2C Backpack - Yellow https://www.adafruit.com/product/1269

Adafruit 1.2" 4-Digit 7-Segment Display w/I2C Backpack - Red https://www.adafruit.com/product/1270

Adafruit Matrix Portal S3 CircuitPython Powered Internet Display https://www.adafruit.com/product/5778

[waxen thistle]

Look at how many folks were making RPi projects prior to the shortage -- compared to now.

Imagine being a manufacturer of RPI accessories and add-on boards....the effects are still in progress, snowballing long after things start to pick back up.

[sand lotus]

ah an amp and an sd card, that's great.

[dim wigeon]

For sure. It’ll be interesting to see what the marketplace looks like when we’re back in a steady state again.

[delicate fractal]

Some day, I’ll be able make a 1080p video screen from LED panels. Soon. Soon.

[dim knot]

Adafruit QT Py S3 with 2MB PSRAM WiFi Dev Board with STEMMA QT https://www.adafruit.com/product/5700

[harsh pebble]

0xAD0BFF

[dim knot]

Adafruit Audio BFF Add-on for QT Py and Xiao https://www.adafruit.com/product/5769

[austere pollen]

with these tiny boards the pin headers look comically tall 😆

[slow spire]

Truly. I’ve been wondering what parts, exactly, of the RPi 4 were constrained? Anyone know?

[dim wigeon]

I feel like 95% of the soldering I do these days is attaching pin headers to things.

[waxen thistle]

Either the raspberries or the pies.

[sand lotus]

the stacking headers are good for prototyping and then when you're ready you squish it all together with small pins

[slow spire]

No audio.

[austere pollen]

these I2S amps have really impressed me. Actual music quality and not just usable for beeps and stuff

[sand lotus]

I2S is the way

[austere pollen]

Arduino-Audio-Tools library now works with RP2040 I2S. I wonder who fixed that 😄

[noble grove]

QUESTION: Why does "from adafruit_display_text import bitmap_label" use up so much RAM? ~11K just to import, before you even display 1 character, then about 10 more bytes per character.

[delicate fractal]

I don’t recall specifically, but I’m pretty sure Eben answered that question in his interview with Jeff Geerling about 3 weeks ago on YouTube.

[tulip canyon]

The one matrix portal feedback I'd give is that it hangs a bit off there. If you know what I mean.
It would be a huge request to get the board fully behind the display.
Constructive criticism because I care ❤️

[austere pollen]

Though the Arduino-Audio-Tools library is imho a bit complicated. ESP8266Audio (also for RP2040) now works great with I2S on RP2040 as well!

[verbal river]

👶

[slow spire]

Thanks. I’ve not watched that one. None of the previous interviews or posts shed any light.

[sand lotus]

Is the matrix portal hanging out due to the RF produced by the matrix panels?

[dim wigeon]

I wish Espressif was as good at making development tools as they are at making silicon, though…I’ve had so many struggles making ESP-IDF work correctly and consistently that I have a Linux VM on my MacBook for it now. 🤷‍♀️

[tiny grove]

Doesn't their silicone have its own slew of issues?

[austere pollen]

Repost but fitting this topic:
Just curious noob question (based on a discussion in ⁠help-with-hw-design a few days ago):
https://www.digikey.de/en/products/detail/ATSAMD21G18A-MFT/5057241 SAMD21: 3,69€
https://www.digikey.de/en/products/detail/raspberry-pi/SC0914-13/14306010?s=N4IgTCBcDaIE4AcwAYAsyQF0C%2BQ
RP2040: 0,63€
Both Cortex-M0+
RP2040 has 2x cores, >2x MHz, 8x RAM, and costs less than a fifth. What am I missing? How does that pricing make sense?
I think you need more (expensive) supporting parts like flash for the RP2040 (it doesn't have any program flash on board). But still. Is this just chip shortage scalping because buying a more expensive MCU is cheaper than redesigning your entire boards&software? RPI just pricing extremely agressively because they're new? Or is there something that's not in the digikey listing that makes SAMD21 "5x better"?

[delicate fractal]

Developers developers developers! Developers developers developers! Developers developers developers!

[waxen thistle]

Developers directing product design instead of the sales team? I think we're in the right timeline.

[tiny grove]

Well, ||Intel|| definitely isn't.

[waxen thistle]

Thanks for another excellent evening of shows!

[dim wigeon]

Thanks, everyone!

[austere pollen]

thank you 😄 @open girder (sorry for writing the question so long, just quickly copy pasted it)

[harsh pebble]

Thanks, Adafruit! Great night, All!!!

[upbeat coral]

Thank you for taking time for us.

[noble grove]

Thank YOU!

[sand lotus]

Thank you for another great episode. Have a lovely week everyone.

[verbal river]

Bye!

[haughty quiver]

👋

[tulip canyon]

Thanks @open girder Have a great evening

[cinder wind]

thanks @open girder! have a good night everyone!

[slow spire]

Thanks, @open girder

[vivid blade]

Thanks!

[lavish patrol]

Greetings, good people.

[haughty quiver]

hi there!

[austere pollen]

?showtimes-gmt

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 20:00 Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 16:00 Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 00:30 Thursdays
Ask an Engineer - 01:00 Thursdays
John Park's Workshop - 21:00 Thursdays
Deep Dive w/Foamyguy - 22:00 Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 16:00 Saturdays

[austere pollen]

?thanks

[open surge]

good afternoon

[inner spade]

Am-bient or ahm-bient?

[clever summit]

🇸🇪 👋

[tulip canyon]

Hey JP, hey everyone

[inner spade]

Hello!

[viral sail]

Good afternoon.

[spiral vale]

beepboop

[haughty quiver]

oh yeah, good reminder

bleep

[split gazelle]

good afternoon folks

[lavish patrol]

track.

[grand tusk]

👋

[lavish patrol]

A wild John Park appears.

[unreal bay]

@cinder wind got to thank you for the blog post with i2s board. Got a few from Ali just arrived 😄 now I just wish I had two ground pins on the qtpy s2, hopefully I can just pull something to ground like A0 which has a resistor too so maybe better or is that worse? I should datasheet

[lavish patrol]

1080p FTW.

[cinder wind]

HDJP

[grand tusk]

I can see the flies.

[lavish patrol]

1080park...

[inner spade]

Dance like a JP-ip-shun

[tulip canyon]

Would you accept Facekini?

[cinder wind]

cool! you don't need a second gnd if you're talking about the SCK pin. There's a little jumper next to the SCK pin you can solder to ground it

[viral sail]

The Make-Code Minute theme. 🎶 Haven't heard that in a long time.

[unreal bay]

ooh clever. Mine have the back jumpers with micro resistors as bridges, bizarre but makes some kind of sense

[cinder wind]

yep that's to set the PCM5102 chip settings. usually they're set correctly, otherwise you'll need to put a blob of solder down

[unreal bay]

Matches the guide so fingers crossed 🤞

[verbal river]

But wait now you have to add tap-tempo to your Tyrell synth

[lavish patrol]

Cool switch.

[grand tusk]

That toggle switch belongs in a museum. 😏

[viral sail]

I wonder if some one these made it onto Gemini capsules.

[lavish patrol]

Possible.

[tulip canyon]

SPST, SPDT, DPDT?

[cinder wind]

I like SPBBQDT switches

[inner spade]

DPDT

[grand tusk]

Yeah, DPDT.

[unreal bay]

The man of many switches

[inner spade]

Double-Pole (circuit) Double-Throw

[cinder wind]

that looks so cool, JP!

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/monchi-mitchel-mitchels-vs-the-machines-gif-21520639

looks cool frrom top now

might be cool to have some magnetize way to connect usb for it

[cinder wind]

maybe jam a piece of translucent plastic (chunk of hot glue stick?) into that top hole when you're done

[shell mason]

that or some led like noodles

[cinder wind]

sounds great

[inner spade]

Mix is very good

[cinder wind]

now it's becoming an 80s chase soundtrack

[grand tusk]

Shades of Brian Eno.

[tulip canyon]

Is this all in synthio?

[cinder wind]

yep

based off this code: https://github.com/todbot/circuitpython-synthio-tricks/blob/main/examples/eighties_dystopia/code.py

but JP added a bunch of cool control to it

[tulip canyon]

Thanks @cinder wind and thank you for documenting your tips. I use the CircuitPython tips all the time 👍

[lavish patrol]

I'm getting a Pink Floyd vibe...

[cinder wind]

yeah it definitely sounded like part of The Wall album for a bit there

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/blade-runner-gif-15238870

[lavish patrol]

Or Genesis - Supper's ready.

[spiral vale]

TAKE IT TO THE MAX!

[lavish patrol]

Nope. I only have one ear. 🙁

[shell mason]

lars will hear them

[grand tusk]

Sinister in Stereo.

[shell mason]

Cyberpunk and blade runner in stereo

[cinder wind]

I want to print this!

in barbie pink

j/k in grey

[shell mason]

the distance sensor could be fancy for sound

for something like that blade runner pyramid

[grand tusk]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dexter_and_sinister

[tulip canyon]

OHM OHM

It's got a nice Dieter Rams vibe to it.

[shell mason]

capatasive touch filament what is for pink that could fit for todbot

andy see lars watching us

[lavish patrol]

@shell mason Lars is all seeing. 😶

[shell mason]

ambient machine on the pyramid could e if someway to make it so that there is water on inside pyramid so sound get back ambient too

[cinder wind]

"Tod, how come your Ambient Machine has switch labels 'acid', 'trap', 'dnb', 'triphop'?"

[lavish patrol]

Lol

[spiral vale]

prob need to be somewhat low bitrate samples

to get many many playing at once?

[cinder wind]

if you're talking SD card bandwidth, yeah. not sure which boards use sdioio instead of the slower and more standard sdcardio

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/smartphone-holographic-display-holographic-display-holografisch-gif-5822528

[tulip canyon]

Use the military switches and keep it army themed?

[dry marten]

Thank for the awesome show

[tulip canyon]

Thanks for sharing JP Have a greaat day!

[inner spade]

Very cool. Getting some inspiration vibes. Thanks @haughty quiver !

[open surge]

thanks JP, good show!

[lavish patrol]

Thanks, @haughty quiver 😀

[haughty quiver]

thanks everyone for coming to hang out!

[spiral vale]

yay!

[tulip canyon]

👋 Hey Tim, Happy Friday

[unreal bay]

quick, submit something crazy 😉

[brisk bone]

There is a new PR for Websockets in HTTPServer 😛

Yes that was your suggestion

[tulip canyon]

May have lost ya. Be safe!

[brisk bone]

Did the power go out?

[smoky island]

Unfortunately my wood knocking and finger crossing was no match. Power down. Sorry folks. Hopefully it'll be back for tomorrow morning stream.

[unreal bay]

doh, time to get a UPS n SpaceX. Hope it comes back for you soon

I know, ups aint cutting the mustard for more than ten minutes, unless you switch to a pi or something 😉

[clear matrix]

Hey folks, thanks for understanding. Tim couldn't end the stream, and it took me this long to figure out how to do it.

[smoky island]

Still in the dark. Not looking likely for the stream this morning either ☹️

[inner spade]

🙁

[sand lotus]

Transformer blow during the storm?

https://tenor.com/view/transformer-exploed-boom-gif-9318104

This happens to every transformer in the area during a hurricane. When the blow they produce a loud boom and brilliant aqua blue colored flash. If you're outside when all the transformers start blowing in the area it's actually quite beautiful.

They'll blow one after another in a chain. Looks like a brilliant fireworks display. At least in Florida where it's expected to happen regularly. Hope you get power back on soon. 🤞

[sand lotus]

Did you know if you provide power to your router with a small UPS even during a blackout you'll have internet. Communications grid is separate from power grid in most states. Get a UPS for your router and PC and voila you can stream even during a blackout. Hope you get everything sorted.

[hexed scaffold]

Oh, I never thought about that - cool tip.

[lilac tusk]

Evening 👋

[open girder]

Desk of Ladyada - Piezo Booster & ESP32-S3 Metro https://youtu.be/3I22nt_kUG4

[lilac tusk]

random hacker times

The Arduino uno shape is a classic, easy to see the popularity

[sand lotus]

After designing for a feather size a Metro must seem like a massive open landscape.

[lilac tusk]

Doing bigger designs in general is like “wow, still so much space left”

[sand lotus]

N16R8 S3 oh my yes please, I've gotten so used to the feather form factor the Metro size seems so big. Would love to have a display I can plug right into it like the TFT Featherwing.

[lilac tusk]

I’m disappointed there is no S3 Wrover :/

I like the chonky wrover modules

[sand lotus]

😯 I was just asking about that always ahead of the curve, already has a prototype. That's awesome.

[lilac tusk]

Triple gain reminds me of Francesco from Cars 2

[sand lotus]

multi-layer fr4 with only a couple layers could be routed out like that, neat idea for a watch?

[lilac tusk]

I had a thought lol

My watch is getting more crowded every redesign hahaha

[sand lotus]

why would you want a non-through hole for a terminal block that will get a lot of mechanical tension?

ahh so you could have the other side of the board useable too, for space?

board cutout surface mount sounds interesting for a terminal block... wouldn't even know how that would work.

oh if it's for like the side of a board, nvm

[lilac tusk]

Oh I’ve seen those connectors. Kind of like those for PLC cable connections

[sand lotus]

like a wago style smt, that's neat.

works with breadboard wire ahh didn't know that. good info.

Thank you for another informative episode.

[haughty quiver]

Hello!

[viral sail]

Good afternoon.

[inner spade]

Hello!

[ivory flax]

HI JP

[little onyx]

didn't think i was going to make it

[split gazelle]

Good afternoon folks

[cinder wind]

J1080P

[waxen bough]

(Already ordered...)

[ivory flax]

I just picked up one of these game pads last week.... dang

[waxen bough]

I share your pain. But I only bought one back then. I bought a few (?) more this time around.
(Edit: oops, I ordered too soon! The 400mm cable didn't have the link on the product page! (Well, it does, but the "suggestion" only had 100mm)
I wish I had added a couple long ones to my order, but too late! 😢

[tender wolf]

Purchased!! Is this the same size as the feather gamepad?

[viral sail]

Thanks @haughty quiver

[haughty quiver]

@tender wolf hey!

[inner spade]

Thanks!

[little onyx]

very cool

[haughty quiver]

it is exactly feather sized

[tender wolf]

Hey @haughty quiver ! Hope all is well, just cought the last few minuets

Awesome, thanks!

[ivory flax]

talked me into picking a up a few more of these game pads.

[haughty quiver]

🎮

[rocky reef]

3DHangouts Episode 405 LIVE! Master Sword, Lightsabers and Flexi Dinosaur #3DPrinting https://www.youtube.com/adafruit/live

[wise iris]

good morning

[viral sail]

Good morning everyone.

[rocky reef]

good morning, afternon, evening and night to everyone around the world!

[upbeat coral]

Hey Y'll

[lavish patrol]

Hello, all

[shell mason]

hello all

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-rey-yellow-saber-rise-of-skywalker-gif-19316734

pcbway might have titanium option for it too

https://www.pcbway.com/rapid-prototyping/3d-printing/metal/Titanium/

[open surge]

The Force Awakens

[vagrant flax]

I've found the adhesive on those speakers is really good

[lavish patrol]

Has anyone seen Ivan Miranda's latest 3D printer? He printed a lifesize model of himself, in one piece 😮

[shell mason]

it was nice

its multipartial video too

[lavish patrol]

Yep.

[shell mason]

andy have you seen thevideo where adam visited Dopl

[lavish patrol]

No. Do you have a link?

[shell mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hib83cafjoM

[lavish patrol]

@shell mason Oh, yes. I did see that. 👍

[shell mason]

the lightsabers i have seen hacksmith industries building real lightsaber prototypes so far

[rocky reef]

https://amzn.to/3DiE0t8 rainbow pla

https://amzn.to/44REySF

[shell mason]

nice name for the filament

like jedi fallen order and jedi survivor have more lightsaber color options

[rocky reef]

Allosaurus Flexi Dinosaur By Angel Jacobo Figueroa Arriola
https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/allosaurus-flexi-dinosaur
https://youtu.be/ClUSmIKMNZE

https://www.printables.com/model/7271-heat-set-insert-press/comments/987745

https://www.printables.com/model/7152-3d-printed-unicorn-horn/comments/985311

https://www.printables.com/model/418024-tron-disc-with-motion-leds-and-sfx/comments/981782

https://www.printables.com/model/482760-epcot-spaceship-earth/comments/983195

https://www.thingiverse.com/make:1115381 Feather DVI case

[gusty wedge]

Amazing show like always, thank a lot N&P.

[vagrant flax]

Thanks for the show 😄

[rocky reef]

thanks so much for hanging out folks!

[lavish patrol]

Thanks, @hard hollow and @rocky reef 👍

[viral sail]

Thanks @rocky reef & @hard hollow . See you all tonight.

[upbeat coral]

Thank you for taking time for us.

[unreal bay]

cheers all

[open surge]

Thanks Pedro & Noe, good show

[shell mason]

the lightsaber this is cool one https://hacksmith.store/en-eu/products/pre-order-mini-saber-gen-2

[hard hollow]

thanks folks! cya tonight

[shell mason]

thanks folks

[split gazelle]

here is the link to join show and tell: https://streamyard.com/73c2uyydc4

[dim wigeon]

Happy Wednesday, all! 👋

[upbeat coral]

Hey Y'll

[waxen thistle]

Good evening all you wonderful folks.

[nova totem]

evening all

[viral sail]

Good evening everyone.

[sage aspen]

Hello everyone

[rapid hornet]

👋

[austere pollen]

👋

[dim wigeon]

Ooh, neat, @sage aspen ! I’ve always wanted to learn a bit about welding too!

[austere pollen]

1:30 am already? 🙀

[sage aspen]

@dim wigeon you should totally try it

[brazen quail]

Hola' from 'rado. 😄

[clever summit]

🇸🇪 👋

Hey @rapid hornet we need you to do a deep dive stream outlining the porting of the new IDF. 🙂

[dim wigeon]

@sage aspen It looks super fun! I learned a bit of oxyacetylene braising when I was younger, and the most important lesson I took away from that was “just because the metal has stopped glowing doesn’t mean it’s not still hot.” 🤣

[sage aspen]

Yeah, brazing is a lot closer to soldering

[waxen thistle]

I spy a little SPI....

[rapid hornet]

I'm hoping to start stream here soon. IDF5 is mostly done I think. microdev did a lot of it already. Happy to take topic suggestions for the future.

[waxen thistle]

Gordon Ramsey would argue against that 😉

[clever summit]

So IDF5 mostly done? Love to hear details about it.

[sage aspen]

True, I meant brazing.

[austere pollen]

@robust horizon (hopefully correct ping) Just curious: Why are you using the SDIO from pico-extras and not the one from ZuluSCSI?
Afaik the one from ZuluSCSI uses 4-bit writes which should be even faster but I didn't really look into that tbh.
Very interesting project!

[clever summit]

Unexpected Maker and me miss the lower level stuff. 🙂

[nova totem]

Good work Jeff

[dim wigeon]

I did too, but I got auto-cucumbered by my iPad. 😉

[robust horizon]

@austere pollen we're not committed to a specific implementation, but just chose to start with this implementation.

[waxen thistle]

Nice Ziggurat

[austere pollen]

... implementing fast SDIO for arduino-pico is on my bucket list 😄

[sand lotus]

@rapid hornet Someday... seems like we're getting there.

[austere pollen]

I see 👍 😄

[robust horizon]

the code is very unstable but you can check it out in my github fork of circuitpython: https://www.usb.org/sites/default/files/documents/usb_type-c_locking_connector_specification_rev_1_0_20160309_0.pdf

[cinder wind]

synthio woot woot! (i mean, wub wub!)

[robust horizon]

@austere pollen honestly as I'm not an expert it'd be great if someone with more knowledge dropped in and grabbed this project 🙂

[austere pollen]

https://github.com/carlk3/no-OS-FatFS-SD-SPI-RPi-Pico/tree/sdio this is the project I found @robust horizon

[rapid hornet]

I don’t really know them since I didn’t do the work

[robust horizon]

@austere pollen noted & bookmarked.

[austere pollen]

Tbh I have most likely way less knowledge about this than you 😆

[silk mist]

Joining soon with my hotplate project

[inner spade]

JP’s been working out; just moved an 8,000 story building with one hand.

[sand lotus]

Actually sounds like something from Blade Runner too. Awesome project JP!

[austere pollen]

I thought it should be fairly ~~easy ~~ not extremely hard to write an Arduino-Style wrapper around that thing @robust horizon 😆

[robust horizon]

I don't know if JP said but the code is heavily based on @cinder wind 's original project

[austere pollen]

Very cool sounds

[sand lotus]

Todbot's been doing amazing things with synthio. I saw that envelope request. 😉

[dim wigeon]

Somewhere a UX designer is quietly having a heart attack right now, but that’s seriously cool! 😉

[nova totem]

Todbot's code is a great place to start learning about making cool synth sounds

[cinder wind]

no, JP, no off button! the 80s dystopia must never end!

[austere pollen]

Is that capacitive touch and which 3D print filament is used? Sorry I was too occupied with chat if you already mentioned that 😄

[sand lotus]

Welcome to Synthtopia

[robust horizon]

@austere pollen the conductive part is copper tape which jp just mentioned .. the print is just black pla, I think https://learn.adafruit.com/tyrell-desktop-synthesizer

[austere pollen]

ah nice thank you 😄

[sand lotus]

I love the copper strips with the fdm layers makes them look like pyramid steps. It's gorgeous.

[austere pollen]

the copper tape looks really good with that design!

[sand lotus]

It's missing a face plate

there we go. gorgeous.

[robust horizon]

I wonder if you could have that plate re-made on the aluminum process that the swirly grids use...!

[waxen thistle]

what a lovely drum machine

[sand lotus]

Could actually make one if you wanted on aluminum PCB with silk screen. Would have to dedicate some time for multiple colors... which would be right up bradenlane's alley.

[dim wigeon]

“Enough synthesizers.” I recognize them both as English words, but I don’t understand them assembled in that sequence. 🤣

[waxen thistle]

I know, so confused whenever I hear that. It doesn't make sense.

[cinder wind]

instant Harold Faltermeyer Beverly Hill's Cop soundtrack

[sand lotus]

You can never have enough synthesizers though

I'd never heard of a DDD-5, very cool.

[silk mist]

Hot[plate

stupid 15 minute streaming setup

[sand lotus]

Yeah there's some delay, show off your project YSpace.

[nova totem]

hate when I get an echo of myself slightly delayed

[clever summit]

Oh, that is a neat idea measuring the temperature!

[austere pollen]

What is the actual hot plate plate made of? PCB? Can that handle the heat long-term? I would love to build a hotplate for myself 😄

[sand lotus]

I imagine a hotplate will take some juice. Are there USB hot plates?

[austere pollen]

Wow thanks for mentioning, that these have terrible noise

[sand lotus]

Hmm thermistor for temp control like is used on 3D printers... at least for runaway safety would be a good idea.

[austere pollen]

I mean there are USB soldering irons 😄

[cinder wind]

Mini Hot Plate! https://www.adafruit.com/product/4948

[sand lotus]

This is the beginning of the automatic coffee cup. If you can reflow a board you can heat coffee. Nicely done. Just please be safe with it! With great heat comes great responsibility.

[dim wigeon]

USB PD 3.0 can apparently deliver 100W at 20V.

[foggy plume]

The MHP30 is handy, but something like this with a larger surface would be great

[sand lotus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUwEIt9ez7M

[tulip canyon]

Thanks Liz, thanks all for sharing

[sand lotus]

Smoke on the water!

[dim wigeon]

Thanks for sharing, everyone! Great projects!

[waxen thistle]

Thanks for sharing everyone! And thanks for hosting @split gazelle!

[open surge]

thanks @split gazelle for hosting

[cinder wind]

Thanks for hosting @split gazelle !

[sand lotus]

Great projects everyone!

[split gazelle]

thanks folks!

[silk mist]

I was actually trying to make something like this, but cheaper and with a bigger area

[dim wigeon]

And thanks for hosting, @split gazelle !

[cinder wind]

just gotta get like 20 of them 🙃

[clever summit]

Lol.

[unreal bay]

you just don't like equipment for ants...

[cinder wind]

loooolll

[clever summit]

I have a 20x20cm one, but it is a pain trying to move components on it when it's hot.

[open girder]

WE ARE LIVE! ASK AN ENGINEER! https://youtu.be/6bGPyMwcw50

10% discount code, code is: portalpower http://www.adafruit.com ends at midnight NYC time

[mint totem]

Is there any way Adafruit could supply a larger "LCD Light Valve"? Ive been looking at solutions for electronic ND filters for cinema cameras and think it would be a great solution.

[austere pollen]

Is that RP2040 based logic analyzer still in the works? Does that project have something to do with pysigrok?

[sand lotus]

S3 Matrix Portal in stock. Swiggity swoot.

Want a feather with an FPGA? There's a crowd supply for that too from our own Skerr. 😉

[gray obsidian]

Actually this is not the first calculator running Python, the NumWorks was first 😉

https://www.numworks.com/fr/calculatrice/python/ and it's open hardware

[austere pollen]

I hope C++ Arduino still stays around.
I think there's a good path
Python -> Arduino -> SDK C/C++

And I just like Arduino 😆

[austere pollen]

(of course it's also completely understandable if people want to "stay" at Python)

I wonder when Germany will switch to Python from... Delphi 7 for high-school computer science😂

[dim wigeon]

I think Python and C/C++ are parallel paths, not necessarily a linear progression, especially as Python evolves.

[sand lotus]

This, why not both.

[austere pollen]

I meant that as a thing of "going deeper" into the hardware 😄

But for like maker projects. Absolutely. Both! 😄

[dim wigeon]

I wonder if someone will ever make a microprocessor (or FPGA core) that runs Python bytecode natively in silicon, like they did with Forth in the 1970s and like I think someone did with Java in the 1990s.

[inner salmon]

Are there any resources for micropython + cython?

[gray obsidian]

Next, COBOL? 😄

Forth could actually be suited, for what I know

[dim wigeon]

I mean, someone (Fujitsu, I think) makes a COBOL environment for the .NET CLR…

[sand lotus]

GoLang should have jumped on board long ago too. Rust is a heavily requested thing with Arduino.

[verbal river]

pt's Rant Section needs a theme song. 🎶

[sand lotus]

If you want to cultivate the next generation of developers they're going to need to learn them all really. So make the entry point very straightforward and enjoyable to learn.

[tiny grove]

Python is much higher level than Forth and Java, so I doubt it. Lua might be possible though, and Lisp machines also exist.

[dim wigeon]

I think pt’s rant section needs to become a regular feature.

[gray obsidian]

Aw

[tiny grove]

Python has language features such as arbitrary precision integers that can't be directly implemented in hardware.

[sand lotus]

They have insights and overview that very few people would have so listening to both of them is highly informative.

[dim wigeon]

I’ve always been intrigued by Forth, and I’m playing with ESP32Forth, but Forth has a relatively steep learning curve.

[tiny grove]

Yeah, I've wanted to do a project with it for awhile.

[austere pollen]

Forth is on my bucket list as well 😆

[cinder wind]

yay rants!

🙂

[austere pollen]

RP2040 arduino-pico I2S support is now great!

(just a tiny bug in I2S input I think. And the RP2040 can't be a I2S slave/device only host)

[harsh pebble]

Pump up the solder!

[sand lotus]

only went to 4 though, needs an 11.

[dim wigeon]

How sped up are the videos of the pick-and-place and selective soldering machines? How fast do those things actually move?

[gray obsidian]

I like this section but the music is a bit loud, I'm watching at 2am with windows open here and I have to rush to lower the volume not to wake up neighbors… 🔈

[sand lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/spinal-tap-numbers-go-to11-gif-4660832

[open girder]

@gray obsidian will try and reduce the volume on those clips, that one may have been a little loud

[gray obsidian]

Thanks, I noticed that on that part of the show several times, I know it's a clip that's published separately so I guess the team making it has differnet settings.

[sand lotus]

That's a tiny board to push 1 amp. Impressive.

[gray obsidian]

engineers from the 80s would pull their hair in disbelief…

[sand lotus]

The power boost 500 and 1000 have been amazing during that time though. I've thoroughly enjoyed working with both of them just for higher recharging rates for larger capacity batteries.

😱 a powerboost 2000? oh my