live-broadcast-chat

[echo canopy]

The MOSFET .. is it 3v or 5v output?

Would you consider making that RP2040 Tester a stocked item ? I’d love a TFT / USB A breakout and extras

I’ll take a pi cowbell USB host .. please consider 😄

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/oakland-oakland-athletics-oakland-as-cowbell-gif-18223532

[gray obsidian]

Is shield always counted as identical to the ground pin for the contact count??

So you'd also want to search for 5 pins there

right?

[viral sail]

Thanks and good night. 🌘

[gray obsidian]

n8

[clever summit]

🇸🇪 👋

So Monday is Funday now? Whoooo.

😛

[inner spade]

Yes, 0x20 is a space char. Usually no bitmap in the font file.

Thanks!

[charred lion]

Hello

[haughty quiver]

hi there!

[charred lion]

I finally made it

[open surge]

👋

[tacit garnet]

Snap to it!

[drowsy inlet]

howdy all

[waxen bough]

Love that theme music!

[inner spade]

Hello!

[sand lotus]

👋

[cinder wind]

Question: if I was making a Lemarchand cube with the NeoKey 5x6 Ortho SnapApart, should I remove one row to make it 5x5 or add a column to make it 6x6? Which would give me optimal Cenobite summoning ability?

[charred lion]

Can multiple units be connected in a 2 × 6 grid?

[haughty quiver]

🧊

[cinder wind]

yes. you can re-arrange them however you like. but will require soldering

[charred lion]

How would the key/LED addressing be done?

[drowsy inlet]

no sound!

[sand lotus]

Unmute!

[drowsy inlet]

or is it just me

[charred lion]

I have asked this question before and have never been given a good answer

[open surge]

nope, no sound

[drowsy inlet]

take 2 is always better anyways 🙂

[cinder wind]

ahaha

[charred lion]

YOUR MUTTED

[tacit garnet]

He's vewy vewy quiet.

[cinder wind]

Do you mean two of these 5x6 grids? (So 60 keys total?) Yes you can do that

[open surge]

@haughty quiver You're muted

[drowsy inlet]

he did say it's the director's cut. silent version?

[inner spade]

Excellent charade, though. The mime skills are strong with this one.

[waxen bough]

The keys are done with matrix scanning, and the neopixels are done sequentially in the snake pattern LadyAda described.

[sand lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/bidoof-big-oof-gif-25019834

[warm pier]

Youtube audio is out

[charred lion]

I want to build a grid 8 rows high and 25 columns wide.

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/why-is-it-so-quiet-commander-tom-adewole-the-midnight-sky-why-is-it-very-silent-why-is-there-no-sound-gif-19577669

[warm pier]

🦻🦻🦻🦻

Yes

[open surge]

I could lip read "oh no"

[drowsy inlet]

i will act surprised on the big reveal

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/spread-apart-break-apart-disassemble-rocky-split-gif-13842133

[drowsy inlet]

is that the same board and buttons used for the macropad kit, essentially?

[open surge]

no, the macropad has a couple more things, like the screen

[drowsy inlet]

but for the buttons, it's a similar snap-fit / no-solder, correct?

[open surge]

correct

[shell mason]

macropad with potentiometer too

cherryMX have low profile keys

[sand lotus]

If you wanted to turn it into a giant Macropad with a screen how hard would that be? Stemma?

[drowsy inlet]

the step switches from a few weeks ago don't work with this correct?

[cinder wind]

Correct

For step switches use https://www.adafruit.com/product/5631

[shell mason]

akways good info about is it low profile compatible too

[inner spade]

Thanks JP!

[shell mason]

https://www.cherrymx.de/en/cherry-mx/mx-low-profile/mx-low-profile-speed.html

[drowsy inlet]

thanks for the answers JP, todbot, paul

[cinder wind]

The great thing about all these keyboard standards is there are so many of them! 🤨

[haughty quiver]

@sand lotus Yes, I think you could do it all with STEMMA QT parts.

[shell mason]

just search ultra low profile too

https://www.cherrymx.de/en/cherry-mx/mx-ultra-low-profile/mx-ulp-click.html

there you go and check datasheets

[knotty valley]

Shipping not working usps not an option!!!

Got it working hooray for persistence

[charred lion]

@cinder wind actually I want to gang enough 5×6 grids to create a 8×25 grid. Mega Keyboard the way I want it done.

[clear matrix]

These are my favorite. My current keyboard is MX Speeds.

[clear matrix]

Do it!

[cinder wind]

so you're making a 200-key keyboard? wow right on

[lilac tusk]

30 pins. That’s one heck of a case statement

Not to mention combo presses

[charred lion]

@clear matrix I was just looking at the Cherry Website and they now have "RGB" versions were all the exterior plastic is clear to and LEDs can shine everywhere. I own a Logitech MX845CH with Cherry MX Blue Switches and I just checked and the have clear tops.

[clear matrix]

Interesting.

Last I knew you couldn't even get the Cherry MX Speed (Silver) outside of manufactured keyboards. No idea if that's changed.

I have a Corsair K70 RGB MK.2 Rapidfire I think.

[charred lion]

I'm a peek & poke typer so I want a 5×5+1 grid for alphas, the editing & standard numeric keypad. Then all chars that are normally shifted would get their own key.

By using a Fn key I can then select the character printed on the front of the key. A second function key would allow me to enter the actual UNICODE for the character I want.

I have worked professionally in the computer software field since about 1981 but never could learn to touch type. This keyboard is what I have always wanted for work.

If you go www.cherry-world.com you can see that for all of the original key colours, the now is a RGB option which is all the internals of the standard key but with clear plastic top & bottom.

[clear matrix]

It took picking up MUDing in the 90s for me to learn to touch type. Before that, I never figured it out, and had been "learning" since much before that (failed most typing classes before that). Starting MUDing, and suddenly had a reason to be typing many things at once, many different windows, between playing, chatting, etc. And somehow it clicked for me, and I've been speedy ever since. Was in the middle of a computer class when I picked it up, went from nearly failing, to passing with 100% by the end.

[clear matrix]

Neat, I'll have a look.

[charred lion]

I used to be able to type by peek&poke faster than some people who just took a typing course

[clear matrix]

I'm always fascinated by that, and I've seen it in action before.

[charred lion]

Age and carpal tunnel has killed my speed a lot.

[clear matrix]

Oof. Sorry to hear about the carpal tunnel. Age gets us all 😄

[charred lion]

Yeah, and that is my most minor health problem I have to live with.
Thank Gawd for Canadian Healthcare.

[clear matrix]

For sure. I have only had fleeting experience with it personally, but spent nearly 2 years in Canada during the pandemic with my partner, who obviously dealt with it regularly as needed. All healthcare has its own issues, but generally Canada has a good thing going.

I have to head out for dinner. Have a good evening!

[charred lion]

True, but it seems talking about healthcare is looked upon the same way people look at talking about politics.

TTFN

[clear matrix]

Indeed, it can be. I appreciate you being aware of that. Mentioning it offhand is fine, but unfortunately it's almost impossible to separate it from politics when you start to get into the details.

Same to you!

[rocky reef]

3DHangouts Episode 382 LIVE in 10 mins! Halloween Neon, Magic Reader and Pumpkin Mouse https://www.youtube.com/adafruit/live #3DPrinting

[open surge]

good morning ☕

[sand lotus]

👋 ☕

☕ ☕ ☕

[wise iris]

good morning

[upbeat coral]

Hey Y'll

[charred lion]

Hello

[sand lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/pac-man-ghost-gif-13400022

[split gazelle]

good morning folks

[rocky reef]

https://www.adafruit.com/free

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/old-school-video-games-pac-man-gif-12836291

[rocky reef]

https://www.adafruit.com/jobs

Subscribe to Adafruit Newsletters -  https://www.adafruitdaily.com/

[urban gale]

Hi folks

[sand lotus]

Happy Spooky Week everyone

sound cut out?

[urban gale]

audio gone for anyone else?

[upbeat coral]

Sounds (no sound) like the Ghost is here.

[split gazelle]

@hard hollow @rocky reef no audio

[sand lotus]

same thing happened to JP yesterday

[charred lion]

Anyone know Sign Language?

[upbeat coral]

Anyone read lips?

Heard something

[charred lion]

Pretty

[upbeat coral]

Maybe we're supposed to provide our own captions.

[lean canyon]

that's a mac doh sound

[rocky reef]

wirecast crashed 👻

[split gazelle]

spooky

[lean canyon]

and they're back

[urban gale]

yay

[sand lotus]

sounds good 👍

it's every 3 pads with some because the controller chip only shows up every 3 pixels. common with some WS2812B strips

[urban gale]

😵

[rocky reef]

Learn Guide - https://learn.adafruit.com/halloween-neon-led-signs/

[shell mason]

think noods for small and then neon led for longer

[rocky reef]

Flexible Neon NeoPixel Strips -
https://www.adafruit.com/product/4310

[sand lotus]

you can buy heatshrink tubing by the roll but it's all in 1 size. if you're used to working with a specific diameter heatshrink it's a great value.

[rocky reef]

QT Py RP2040 -
https://www.adafruit.com/product/4900

[sand lotus]

love that the ghost has some shades, cool design

[waxen thistle]

Good morning all you wonderful people!

Coffin or a halloween-themed foot switch? 😉

[sand lotus]

didn't know pico could fit on a permaproto, that'a great tip!

[waxen thistle]

those permaprotos are truly rad -- a major improvement over the traditional perma board

[sand lotus]

i ended up using one in my social media tracker. They're just the right size if you need to gang a few things together without using a breadboard or weird perfboard with solder bridges.

[rocky reef]

Small PermaProto -
https://www.adafruit.com/product/1214

[sand lotus]

you can get those cord covers to walls to hide them no matter what the color of the cable is 😉

[digital crescent]

do you have a link to the cord covers?

[sand lotus]

it would be something from amazon

https://www.amazon.com/One-Cord-Channel-Cable-Concealer-Management/dp/B07D8WVJWF

amazons choice covers

[digital crescent]

thanks

[rocky reef]

Learn Guide Project Code - https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_Learning_System_Guides

[charred lion]

Anyone know what the Canadian version of an Altoids tin is?

[sand lotus]

Bacon Flavored Altoids

[digital crescent]

maple syrup Altoids

[waxen thistle]

So many are taking advantage of these new LED neon strips -- they're so easy to work with, compared to actual neon 🙂

[sand lotus]

black altoids in the shape of hockey pucks

[charred lion]

Ha Ha... It was a serious question as I never see Altoids for sale in Winnipeg

[sand lotus]

they're minty breathmints so whatever the equivalent is, no hard coating like a tic-tac

[waxen thistle]

in northeastern USA, you can find hard maple candy -- so it's close enough to an altoid.

[digital crescent]

you can probably order them on the internet and take the case for something, or just 3d print something equivalent in size.

[charred lion]

All the hard candy tins around here are round

[waxen thistle]

Candy and food importing is a big thing -- I get tea from the UK (though expect to pay a bit higher than MSRP)

[rocky reef]

3D Parts Library on GitHub -
https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CAD_Parts

[sand lotus]

Adafruit does carry a tin but not official altoids branded. https://www.adafruit.com/product/16

[finite hull]

I wonder if penguin mints use the same size tin. They look roughly the same, but not sure if it’s a true fit.

[waxen thistle]

CountyComm also carries some really heavy duty tins -- though not tested with permaproto:

https://countycomm.com/products/big-industrial-strength-survival-food-grade-tins-gen-2?_pos=1&_sid=92db1279d&_ss=r&variant=40304091070534

https://countycomm.com/products/industrial-strength-survival-food-grade-tins?_pos=2&_sid=92db1279d&_ss=r&variant=40116039090246

[charred lion]

Still haven't convinced myself on spending the money on a 3D printer. I have a project that could use both a resin and a filament type.

[sand lotus]

altoids tins are snap fit, no gasket... not on the original altoids tins anyway.

[shell mason]

so snapfits

[sand lotus]

what size heatshrink do you want though? it's all different sizes

which is why you REALLY need to know the size you want before you order like a 10ft roll of it.

[rocky reef]

28 awg?

[charred lion]

Heatshrink tubes are measured in inches or mm of diameter

[waxen thistle]

LED neon signs are a bright idea.

[sand lotus]

https://www.amazon.com/WindyNation-20-Feet-Black-Adhesive/dp/B07LB8Z7HZ 1/8"

1/8" looks as small as it's going to get because it's mostly used in automotive industry

[charred lion]

Remember that heatshrink shrinks by 50%

[shell mason]

led neon sings with noods

[sand lotus]

1/8" = 3.18mm

[waxen thistle]

250C for a pool temp sensor? ....that's more like sous vide....

I think we lost audio? or is it me?

[shell mason]

lost audio

[split gazelle]

no audio

[charred lion]

Audio gone

[waxen thistle]

@hard hollow @rocky reef No audio 🔊

[upbeat coral]

Yep, insert your own captions time.

[waxen thistle]

Maker Charades!

[upbeat coral]

Crash

[charred lion]

Where is Mr PacMan?

[rocky reef]

restarting....

[viscid wasp]

sound out

[waxen thistle]

Welcome back! Audio good

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/animate-me-animate-me-app-face-swap-reface-halloween-gif-23440596

[sand lotus]

👍

[split gazelle]

coming in loud and clear

[dry marten]

Good on YouTube

[sand lotus]

Jack O' Mouse

Would be cool to make a kids halloween bucket to go get candy with it.

[shell mason]

cool

https://www.printables.com/model/299185-spiders-web-a-3d-printer-stress-test this is cool for those who build webbing

[rocky reef]

Mouse Jack-O-Lantern By mwaflerhttps://youtu.be/rNfeLV9phbQhttps://www.printables.com/model/297357-mr-mouse-pumpkin-jack-o-lantern

[sand lotus]

what an adorable spider!

[rocky reef]

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5584482 lightsaber remix

[waxen thistle]

?showtimes

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/ Foamyguy - 5pm ET Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 11am ET Saturdays

[waxen thistle]

yay! glad I was able to catch ya!

[split gazelle]

thanks for the stream!

[upbeat coral]

Happy Birthday, and enjoy the time away. Thank you for sharing your time with us.

[sand lotus]

🎂 🎃

[open surge]

good show, thank you!

[dry marten]

Thanks

[hard hollow]

thanks for hanging in there folks 😄 cya tonight

[urban gale]

great show!

[rocky reef]

thanks so much for hanging out folks!

[wise iris]

thanks guys!

[robust horizon]

Evening all!

[sand lotus]

👋

[waxen thistle]

Good evening all you wonderful people!

[tulip canyon]

Hello everyone. Happy Show &n Tell day

[open surge]

good evening everyone

[sand lotus]

Spook & Tell

[desert orbit]

👋

It’s the most wonderful time of the year! 🎃

[upbeat coral]

Hey Y'll

[open girder]

Link to join to show and share your project: https://streamyard.com/fp58cshaby

[waxen thistle]

Live on Twitch

[open girder]

WE ARE LIVE! SHOW AND TELL! https://youtu.be/nZCcg9PP5iE

[tribal vault]

lol that table drum surprised me

had the livestream open in a tab in the background and forgot about it

[waxen thistle]

I hear really good things about that discord 😉

[charred lion]

Hello

[delicate fractal]

Do Lady&Mr Ada live with snakes and lizards?

[open girder]

we have blinka the circuitpython snake 🙂

[delicate fractal]

I'll allow it: that counts.

[sand lotus]

well if i'm not touching, and you're not touching it...

[tribal vault]

ok that's a cool project jp

[sand lotus]

ok that's spooky

[waxen thistle]

🪶

[desert orbit]

Love those mag feet, always finding new uses for them 🙂

[delicate fractal]

I plan to have my family pass around joints and say "Smoke 'em if you got 'em!" at my funeral.

[sand lotus]

same bat time, same bat channel

[smoky island]

Those are great! Really love the ghost back there.

[tribal vault]

lmao

[modern night]

I love that, I've shared it to so many folks

[tribal vault]

it looks kind of gooey

[waxen thistle]

Doom on a Mars bar....hmm.

[modern night]

that's such a great implementation of the meme, well done

[tulip canyon]

Farcry next

[cinder wind]

melted chocolate

[waxen thistle]

Many chocolate bars were consumed in the making of this project.

[cinder wind]

Na-na-Na-na-Na-na.. Bat Liz!

[robust horizon]

the servo noises sound a bit like a bat too

[smoky island]

Such a lovely little bat!

[delicate fractal]

Void kitties are best kitties.

[split gazelle]

they do!

very cool project @smoky island

[smoky island]

Thank you!

[tribal vault]

you just found the super secret API

[shell mason]

very cool project

noods

[haughty quiver]

@sand lotus very cool!

🎃

[low fractal]

Yay dragons! 🐲

[shell mason]

hackerpumpkin

[haughty quiver]

@nova totem that pumpkin is adorable!

[tribal vault]

oh lol that pumpkin with eyes looks so good

[split gazelle]

@nova totem amazing!

[cinder wind]

Canada is attacking!

[haughty quiver]

Again

[charred lion]

I'm always lurking

[haughty quiver]

hahah

[lethal lagoon]

oooh nice pumpkins @nova totem !

[waxen thistle]

Very nice pumpkins!

[haughty quiver]

🍁

[smoky island]

Awesome pumpkins. Really love blinka and the eyes one.

[haughty quiver]

uh oh that just got real lol

[sand lotus]

Code for the social media tracker is on github now https://github.com/DJDevon3/My_Circuit_Python_Projects/tree/main/Boards/espressif/Adafruit Feather ESP32-S2/8x 7-segment Social Media Tracker

[waxen thistle]

Thanks everyone for sharing your projects!

[tulip canyon]

Great projects everyone. Thanks for sharing

[lethal lagoon]

Happy Halloween show and tell all!

[sand lotus]

love the bat Liz!

[upbeat coral]

Thank you to all for sharing your time with us

[sand lotus]

🎃

[modern night]

great projects everyone! That was the first I've gotten to catch live in a long while, it was great!

[split gazelle]

thanks!

[cinder wind]

super fun projects everyone, thanks for the inspirations!

[nova totem]

@haughty quiver @split gazelle @lethal lagoon Thanks all! They came out better then I hoped

Great projects everyone. Now to go back and watch them without that mask on!

[split gazelle]

are the STL's available?

[opaque hearth]

Super projects all!

[sand lotus]

those pumpkins are adorable. the eyes in them turned out way better than i thought.

[nova totem]

Yes (minus the blinka one I just finished it and haven't uploaded it). I'll find the link

[split gazelle]

yay!

[nova totem]

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5554843
I also have the fusion file too on my github if you wanted that

[charred lion]

Where is the best place to watch the video and the chat at the same yime?

time?

[desert orbit]

I think Twitch has the lowest latency?

[sand lotus]

most people chat in discord but also some in youtube while the stream is live.

[waxen thistle]

I prefer Twitch, as it has lower latency. But Youtube is perfectly fine too.

The chat? Totally here in Discord. Best place hands down.

[sand lotus]

for AAE do they patrol twitch and other services for questions or is it only discord and youtubE?

[charred lion]

Well I'm using my android and running discord for chat & YouTube in a popup for the video

[waxen thistle]

We try to keep an eye on Twitch and Youtube, but Discord is the best place to have it seen.

[charred lion]

And there is no video on Discord, correct?

[sand lotus]

correct, youtube embed if that

[cinder wind]

ooo, Fusion files! Imma deboss the Thingiverse error page into a pumpkin. spooooky!

[charred lion]

Oh well

[nova totem]

https://github.com/gamblor21/pumpkins

[open girder]

ASK AN ENGINEER 10/26/2022 LIVE! https://youtu.be/xVAy6AmXvWI

[waxen thistle]

Live on Twitch!

[shell mason]

live for sure

[waxen thistle]

Doom on a Mars bar.

[open girder]

10% discount code, code is: highpower http://www.adafruit.com

[waxen thistle]

Hi, Power! Oh wait, that's not right.

[sand lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/he-man-i-have-the-power-sword-gif-5305079

[waxen thistle]

Adafruit Freebies! https://www.adafruit.com/free

[sand lotus]

saw the image of scorpio in twitter. can't wait to see what that's about!

[waxen thistle]

Shipping details: https://www.adafruit.com/shipping

[slow spire]

@open girder Question: So what's in the candy bar? Seems too small for a Pi Zero.

[sand lotus]

feather esp32-s3 tft

this one https://www.adafruit.com/product/5483

[waxen thistle]

?showtimes

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/ Foamyguy - 5pm ET Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 11am ET Saturdays

[slow spire]

Thanks, @sand lotus !

[sand lotus]

Just FYI @slow spire that one is still in beta with some features nonfunctional for the moment. Recommended for advanced developers only right now.

Question: wanted to ask during the great search but didn't get it in time. Why go with USB-A vs USB-C, price only? because you're inevitably going to get it the wrong way, flip it over, get it wrong again, etc...

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/matt-damon-the-martian-gif-21977950

[charred lion]

I bought four of those 5×6 units. Now all I have to do is figure out how to connect them in a 2×2 grid.

It's the law in Canada to make sure ALL employees have at least two(2) hours to go and vote.

[sand lotus]

I generally refuse to talk about politics or religion, because eventually they only serve to become the basis for arguments.

[charred lion]

Of course our polling places are usually about 2 - 3 miles apart.

[sand lotus]

next up, medical nanobots run doom

[lethal lagoon]

the candy bar of doom is so good!

[elfin roost]

👀

[glad valley]

would you guys consider making a 5v 3A powerbank breakout board? i know i want to make my own powerbank to replace my 3A one and it'd be perfect!

[sand lotus]

pico and pico w's are doing great lately, can't really go wrong with a pico. no atmel? no problem.

[waxen thistle]

Make it too challenging, you'll force so many people away from the field.

[sand lotus]

getting an LED to blink in seconds with circuit pythons makes so much sense now.

[waxen thistle]

We may not remember the specific details, but we remember how it made us feel. And frustration isn't a great memory to hold onto.

[urban gale]

ooh Simon?

nope

[slow spire]

Phrasing! Are we doing phrasing?

[charred lion]

You could not use that name nowadays

[delicate fractal]

toucha-toucha-touch me, I wanna be Atari.

[shell mason]

for some to have challenge then other easiers

[tulip canyon]

Atari switches could get sticky

[slow spire]

The thing that gets me about this is that it followed the intro of Simon.

[waxen thistle]

Looking for a job? Want to post a job? https://jobs.adafruit.com

[slow spire]

(And Simon itself was inspired by an Atari arcade console.)

[charred lion]

I still have my DOS 3.3 documentation somewhere

[waxen thistle]

View the latest Python for Microcontrollers Weekly Newsletter here: https://www.adafruitdaily.com/category/circuitpython/

[charred lion]

When I first used a home computer, you only had 8" floppy drives.

Yes I'm old

[tulip canyon]

Close Encounters of the Third Kind - 1977
Simon the game - 1978
Atari Touch Me - 1979

[urban gale]

Tape drive on a Vic 20. Right there w/ ya!

[charred lion]

I was using a S100 system BEFORE CP/M came out.

[urban gale]

😆 Ok you win!

[charred lion]

I'm 62 yrs old

[sand lotus]

not connected to the internet is a big deal for home automation projects

[waxen thistle]

Adafruit Daily - daily emails on everything DIY/Maker related! https://www.adafruitdaily.com/

[charred lion]

And have an active Ham license

[dense imp]

door locking with that would be interesting!

[waxen thistle]

Adafruit Learn System - latest guides: https://learn.adafruit.com/guides/latest

[urban gale]

Yup CP/M was before my time

[charred lion]

I'm also known as the Deviled Ham

[slow spire]

You could use something like this with a 7.4V lithium battery. https://www.adafruit.com/product/1385

[robust horizon]

@slow spire and the firmware is here https://github.com/adafruit/esp32-s3-boy_fw

[charred lion]

In a box somewhere are my wire wrap supplies

[glad valley]

i'm using it to replace the broken board of a lithium battery battery bank

[charred lion]

I want to use those 5×6 things to make a grid of 8×25 key sockets

[sand lotus]

cute bat 🙂

[hasty frigate]

I don't have a 3D printer, but my sister has a Cricut. I wonder if I could adapt the makerworld files?

[robust horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-in-the-shell-keyboard-gif-7519694

the pick and place machine makes me think that cyborgs are really good a typing fast

[hasty frigate]

For the bat project. It looks 2D enough to cut out of cardboard.

[charred lion]

I'm a peek & poke typist

[sand lotus]

i was actually worried about the weight of the bats wings damaging the servo, seems to work well though.

ruiz brothers canned videos are getting super good, such high quality.

[echo canopy]

Question for the show @open girder in the python newsletter— you showed a 3rd party camera by “Useful Sensors” do you plan to carry that camera /sensor ? I see they have an apparent collaboration with SP, just wondering if you’ll also get the board since you sell the microcontroller featured.

[waxen thistle]

Don't like time being wibbly-wobbly-timey-wimey? Use a RTC in your TARDIS.

[dense imp]

+-8s monthly is nice!

[urban gale]

"Time Nerd" was my fave Van Damme movie

[sand lotus]

time is one of the hardest things i've done in code in any language i've worked with. time is always a rabbit hole.

[waxen thistle]

Keeping track of time is so relative.

[sand lotus]

some people are like "so what if i lose a couple milliseconds a day"... well in a couple years when you ask why is it 1pm when the moon is overhead that'll be your fault for not caring. it's actually pretty important stuff.

[waxen thistle]

I'll second those issues -- an atomically set clock I got from a big box store quite never worked right.

[modern night]

*Glances up from Kansas--hey I'm almost in nebraska, that might work*

[sand lotus]

same

[robust horizon]

I can confirm WWVB works reasonably well in Nebraska

[sand lotus]

i've actually gone to GPS which i'm sure gets it from NIST or something, let them handle it and i'll just pull the real time from GPS.

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/hack-ghost-in-shell-hacking-fast-type-gif-8363221

[nova totem]

I was able to receive WWVB in Manitoba, though my antenna was outside when I tried

[sand lotus]

but even with GPS you need a good local RTC between syncs.

[dense imp]

time for another precision wing 😉

[sand lotus]

that's true, even a cheap gps module isn't cheap.

[shell mason]

cheap can be very complex

[desert orbit]

What a TCXO looked like in the mid 70’s (from an HP 5328A counter)

[sand lotus]

the only amount of time i want to know is how fast it takes me to get out of the 85C lol

[desert orbit]

Much smaller now 🙂

[dense imp]

this NPI should get cut to its own 'why RTC is tough' segment

[sand lotus]

here's me thinking all the quartz crystals in electronics are from mining 🤦‍♂️

[dense imp]

if you can grow your own salt at home, why not quartz?

[nova totem]

that's very cool to see how they're made, beyond the other stuff even

[modern night]

I've never actually seen a source crystal for the clocks. That was really cool

[sand lotus]

you can grow salt?

[lethal lagoon]

wow

[modern night]

the book, Open Circuits, is new and scratches a similar, "What's inside" itch

[delicate fractal]

I knew they were grown... but I thought it was like a 1-day thing, not 3 months in an autoclave!

[sand lotus]

what's next you gonna tell me you can grow your own silicon too?

[waxen thistle]

Adafruit New Products: https://www.adafruit.com/new

[upbeat coral]

I used to grow my own rock candy crystals. Does that count?

[waxen thistle]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/5639

[sand lotus]

🆕

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-visions-star-wars-visions-star-wars-gif-22745280

[desert orbit]

That book is so cool! Got my copy last week 🙂 Here’s the pages on crystals.

[delicate fractal]

I've been meaning to look into what it takes to grown silicon crystals, but my guess is that though it may be possible, you'll likely never achieve anything close to the kind of quality they use in industry. Those autoclaves epson is using are HUGE, too.

[modern night]

It's so good! It'll get so many rereads from me

[sand lotus]

1 amp infrared is insane.

[shell mason]

kybercrystals could be nice

[sand lotus]

have you done distance testing with the IR sensors at 1A?

[shell mason]

nice signal

[charred lion]

The TV killer lives again

[modern night]

helpful tip-if you want to temporarily disable the power led, a few coats of a good nail polish works really well and you can use acetone to remove it in the future

[sand lotus]

i loved that animation, high quality, great job whoever designed that

[spiral bough]

@open girder I know it's late for this season, but any thoughts about re -releasing Halloween boards with round screens? I damaged my Adabox Hallowing display it seems. 😦

[waxen thistle]

I've used a super tiny square of black electrical tape to totally obscure LEDs....lighter colored electrical tape to make it barely transparent

[shell mason]

LG harmony remotes was cool so now you can mke yor own too

[pastel bison]

Any idea when there will be more magnetic USB cables in stock?

[nova totem]

Wonder if ParallelDisplay could benefit from that

[sand lotus]

my first thought for the scorpio was neopixels. will be so nice to have a feather without a pxl8friend wing to drive a few small neopixel strips directly.

[mystic atlas]

Hello

[slow spire]

Hi, @mystic atlas

[echo canopy]

Question @open girder

You have a few expansion GPIO qwiic boards ….. thoughts on a “GPIO Pro” version.. this one having mini MOSETs for each GPIO channel? Use idea could be automated lights to music with coding / sequence, timing, .. Christmas lights etc …

[shell mason]

🦂 💾 🐰

[swift thicket]

Question, What has been the primary limiting factor in the production of the BNO085 boards?

[sand lotus]

floppy? this is for tandyman... and the floppy drive that required a small reactor to power.

[lilac tusk]

Gerbil power is my preferred method

[sand lotus]

slave labor is never ok

😛

[slow spire]

Likely parts shortage. However, Digi-Key has about 60 of them right now if you need one:
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/4754/1528-4754-ND/13426653?curr=usd&utm_campaign=buynow&utm_medium=aggregator&utm_source=octopart

[lilac tusk]

It’s more of a joke on the age of floppies and old power supplies

[shell mason]

skerr like that kerbal space program?

[lilac tusk]

Yes, precisely

[sand lotus]

i missed that one, whoof

[lilac tusk]

KSP2 is doing early access soon

I am stoked

[swift thicket]

I managed to get one, but I was curious as to the specifics of the parts shortage. I guess I'm also wanting to ask if there will be continued shortages or if things have started to flow better

[lilac tusk]

My dad at one point growing up referred to computer power supplies as gerbil cages

[delicate fractal]

There's a chip shortage?!? 🤣

[lilac tusk]

The chip aisle is full at my Walmart so probably not

😬

[desert orbit]

🎵 Every day, in every way! 🎵

[robust horizon]

@open girder I'm excited to get my hands on the level shifting version of the floppy featherwing!

[charred lion]

We called the S100 power supplies "Boat Anchors"

[nova totem]

The round displays I got (for cheap) reminded me why I love Adafruit parts. I wrecked two of them without trying too hard. The quality is not the same

[sand lotus]

yeah the GC9A01's and eye projects have been everywhere this halloween. i bought mine back in july just for halloween and looks like a lot of people had the same idea.

[charred lion]

They weighed about how much a complete PC weighs now.

[lilac tusk]

I have plans for the GV9A01 for a watch

[nova totem]

Funny thing I got the displays for another project and got sidetracked with eye projects

[waxen thistle]

Thanks @open girder for another excellent evening of shows!

[charred lion]

They used transformers only.

[delicate fractal]

Hey! I just read that siFive was bought out. Will that have any impact on RISC-V

?

[sand lotus]

did you see liligo's round board with integrated chip skerr? immediately thought of you when i saw that one.

👋

[upbeat coral]

Thank you for sharing your time with us

[cinder wind]

I wish there was a way of replaying the Discord live chat while watching the stream from the past

[modern night]

Thanks all and have a good one!

[lilac tusk]

Yeah, pretty cool board. I thought about getting one

[desert orbit]

Thanks for being cool adafriends!

[atomic kestrel]

Zener Zener Chicken Dener.

[sand lotus]

usually "moment of zen" but things have a way of taking on a life of their own.

jon stewart always ended the daily show with a moment of zen too.

[slow spire]

Might be possible using a Discord API. But they also don't want third-party Discord clients, so…

See:
https://twitter.com/discord/status/1229357198918197248

Discord (@discord)

@emilia_san_ All 3rd party apps or client modifiers are against our ToS, and the use of them can result in your account being disabled. I don't recommend using them.

Twitter · Feb 17, 2020, 10:49 AM

[sand lotus]

Specifically for Discord web scraping. Only pulling stats like online users occasionally a few times a day it's really no harm no foul under the radar stuff, because any normal user could do that same action manually. If you attempt to use it for scraping large amounts of data without an 0auth bot, authorized on that specific channel, you're absolutely going to set off some automated alarm bells and your account will get banned. If you're going to try, at least use an alternate account. Like a gun, it's not the fault of the tool, it's how it's used.

[inner spade]

Yikes!

[cinder wind]

HE LOOKS RIGHT THROUGH ME

[sand lotus]

👋

[lavish patrol]

John Park's Workshop - AKA The Lars Zone.

[split gazelle]

good afternoon folks

[sand lotus]

hello batty mcbatters

[lavish patrol]

Batty who?

[sand lotus]

the one who creates spooky flappy bats

[haughty quiver]

howdy

[haughty quiver]

oh my

[cinder wind]

you know, Roy Batty

[lavish patrol]

Lol

[sand lotus]

like wonka cards, in the rain

[cinder wind]

"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack Lars off the shoulder of John Park..."

[sand lotus]

lol

[haughty quiver]

hahahah

[dry marten]

Nice beeps and boops

[inner spade]

All in our places with slightly scared faces.

[clever summit]

Hello JP!

[lavish patrol]

Happy Lars Day, @clever summit 😄

[royal moon]

Hello

[clever summit]

🇸🇪 👋

[royal moon]

[haughty quiver]

👋

[cinder wind]

bloog post too https://todbot.com/blog/2022/10/21/speed-up-circuitpython-led-animations-10x/

[inner spade]

Woody in the background hanging by his pull string ring is appropriately Halloween-esque.

[lavish patrol]

I think Lars got him.

[brazen chasm]

🖖

[lavish patrol]

Lol

[cinder wind]

Pretty cool a full split keyboard being driven by a single QTPy

The Power Of I2C

[sand lotus]

i would have never imagined a tiny qt py would be able to drive a keyboard. impressive.

didn't actually know what different I2C busses meant, or were even a thing, until recently.

[midnight plinth]

Gumpish phrase

[sand lotus]

the demo with the feather/quill was legit spooky.

[cinder wind]

It's a Feather controlling a feather that's channeling from the ether

[sand lotus]

there are so many different pieces for this project. bluetooth, motors, leds, speaker.

[cinder wind]

Ether-feather-Feather

[lavish patrol]

Featherception...

[sand lotus]

hmm how do you think one of those transducers would do instead?

i don't have one nor have played with one but they are interesting, maybe for stuff like this?

[cinder wind]

I2S needs Clock, Data, and FlibbertyGibbet

trust me I'm an expert

[lavish patrol]

Mustn't forget the FlibbertyGibbet. 😄

[sand lotus]

i'd take todbot's word for it. he disassembles cyborg eyes and voice modules for breakfast.

[shell mason]

Lars sense is fullfilling the dream

[sand lotus]

ok lars and a ouija board.. that is indeed terrifying.

[shell mason]

lars reanimating

[lavish patrol]

Lars from beyond the grave.

[sand lotus]

what a great project

i thought audiocore was being deprecated?

docs looks good, maybe i was thinking about some other audio class.

what is led[:] i haven't seen that syntax before

[lavish patrol]

I sense a LOTR project in our future...

All we need now is for Lars to say "My preciousssss..."

[cinder wind]

leds[:] = [some new list] means to copy every element of the new list to the existing object. It's functionally the same as:

for i in range(len(leds)):
  leds[i] = new_list[i]

We can't just do leds = [some new list because that would reassign the leds variable from being a Neopixel-object-pretending-to-be-a-list with a real list

[wind spoke]

That is a nice Casio F-91W watch you have... (hint)

[inner spade]

List slicing using brackets.

[sand lotus]

that's really neat

yeah that's parsec material

[clear matrix]

How do any of you remember which leg is cathode vs anode on an LED? I remember which is + vs - by remembering that the long leg is +, and it takes more lines to draw a + than a -. I can't come up with one for cathode/anode.

[sand lotus]

longer is annode typically but from what i learned from becky stern you never really know until you test because some are manufacturered backward.

[shell mason]

lars as hologram for it to make more spooky

[wind spoke]

If only we had quick copy from bytearray or best ulab to PixelBuf used by NeoPixel.
I remember Jeff doing that from copy to ulab array (two dimentional) to displayio bitmap/image.

[cinder wind]

Yes "list slicing" that's the term. leds[:] is shortcut for leds[0:len(leds)]

[clever summit]

I use Google. Every time.

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-gif-22690554

[clear matrix]

Yeah that's still where I'm at.

[lavish patrol]

I remember it by thinking cathode ray tube. The cathode gun is emitting electrons so it must be minus (-) therefor cathode = (-).

[cinder wind]

you can also do leds[3:8] to pull out a new list containing elements 3,4,5,6,7

[lavish patrol]

I could, however be wrong. 🤔

[clear matrix]

I don't know how cathode ray tubes work, unfortunately 😄 So that won't help.

[sand lotus]

that's one heck of a shortcut

[clever summit]

Oh, of course we all know how a cathode ray works. 😆

[lavish patrol]

Lol. I'll just back out of the room, slowly... 😄

[clever summit]

I am still stuck at electrons flow from plus to minus.

[sand lotus]

just because us old people grew up with them doesn't mean we know how they work, we grew up with airplanes too

[cinder wind]

I use a little LED tester like https://amzn.to/3zmntCY to verify cathode & anode (- / + )

[clever summit]

Was that like the 1800's?

(When electrons flowed from plus to minus I mean)

[inner spade]

Short lead is the ground (minus). Lightning shorts to ground. Usually the lens case has a notch on the cathode (-) side, too. For SMT diodes, the cathode is usually marked or the underside has an arrow pointing to it.

[lavish patrol]

That's only in the Southern hemisphere. 😉

[clear matrix]

In this case, it's that the LEDs have to be connected to this GPIO expander in a very specific way. So testing the LED is a next step, but the first step was understanding which bit even goes on the expander GPIO, and which bit doesn't.

@cinder wind That's neat.

[knotty valley]

Super cool

I love these live streams I learn so much

[shell mason]

lars effect so spooky lars tehre

[sand lotus]

the video becky stern did for digikey covers manufacturing differences... so a guide saying with 100% certainty to do is one way or the other is kind of a mistake. it's the way most are but coming from digikey if they say not always and the only way to truly know is to test, should also be included in any guide advice.

[shell mason]

the board what talk with lars

[cinder wind]

also for most LEDS, as @inner spade says, the notch indicates ground (and should be the shorter lead if you've not cut the lead, like I often do)

[clear matrix]

Fair enough.

[clear matrix]

Ah ok!

[clear matrix]

I avoid doing that now because otherwise I have no idea what's what. Heh.

[sand lotus]

knocked it out of the park JP, great project.

[cinder wind]

poor Lars, just a doorstop now

[clever summit]

I have a LEDTwee, it's a tweezer that can test polarity of SMD LED's

[dry marten]

Thanks for the show

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-gif-13060487

[lavish patrol]

Great workshop, @haughty quiver 😀

[clear matrix]

Thanks everyone for your input! I appreciate it!

[midnight plinth]

Thanks for the info, bye

[shell mason]

great input chat during this

[lavish patrol]

👋

[clever summit]

🖖

[knotty valley]

Are you going to make a guide for this?

[haughty quiver]

Yes, I'll write a guide on it

[inner spade]

Excellent project design and implementation. Always pick up some useful hints. Thanks @haughty quiver !

[brazen grove]

meep meep

[sand lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/omw-running-roadrunner-crossfit-busy-gif-14821081

[inner spade]

🎵”We all live in a purple submarine, a purple submarine, a purple submarine.”

[flat seal]

sup yall

[sand lotus]

Going great! I finished a couple projects this week. Got a lot of compliments on them. Feeling outstanding!

[grand tusk]

ahoy

[sand lotus]

How about you?

[proper prawn]

Good afternoon Tim and everyone present!

[grand tusk]

ship shape and bristol fashion

[sand lotus]

Before hacktoberfest ends? Trying to get a t-shirt if possible but none of my PR's are counting. Scrolled through hacktoberfest filter but just nothing getting approved.

yeah those API's are going to be a lot of work, definitely appreciate you taking that on.

I think Hacktoberfest ends Oct 31st. 7pm EST it is then.

If you look through Hacktoberfest there are simple HTML issues too, if you can code, there's something for everyone.

Here's a video that shows a good way to search for ANY hacktoberfest approved issue.

https://youtu.be/pRow-Kc12rs?t=292

[grand tusk]

Trivia FunHouse

[sand lotus]

well i contributed a couple PR's to Todbot's repo's but he's not participating as a Hacktoberfest host. 😛

[clear matrix]

If you ask politely, he might be willing to add the individual label to those PRs. 🙂 Worth a try anyway.

[sand lotus]

hmm maybe i will thank you

they are ultimately for the GC9A01 community bundle library in circuit python.

[clear matrix]

Tell him he can ping me if he's interested but unsure how it works.

[grand tusk]

Coloring answers to match the key LEDs: That's on the todo list for sure.

[sand lotus]

kattni any idea if the community bundle counts?

[inner spade]

None of my submissions counted. Think it’s something that has to be tagged in the source repo.

[clear matrix]

That was hard because while the repo is maintained by us, the submodules, so the libraries themselves are maintained by the folks who submitted them originally.

So, not really.

[sand lotus]

yeah library is still kind of out of my reach, best i can do is examples right now

actually i did submit a PR for the 7-segment display library, i think that's in the circuit python bundle.

melissa asked me to and i was like ohhh that's a legit PR, yes.

yes stemma 7x4 clock display

but the segments.py includes all sizes

[inner spade]

PRs to the newsletter also don’t count. Not considered “substantive.”

[sand lotus]

found that one out the hard way?

😦

i thought they said documentation counts. guess it's just a matter of how substantive the contribution?

something like spellchecking and grammar corrections probably wouldn't count.

[inner spade]

As I understand, the newsletter doesn’t count regardless.

[sand lotus]

if i were going to go after spelling and grammar i'd go after the guides... i always spot mistakes in them.

[charred lion]

Ok.. I was in the twitch room and not on Discord.

[sand lotus]

i know blog posts don't count but i saved adafruit a smidge of embarrassment once when they spelled out d**ks instead of disks for a floppy disk related blog post 😛

[charred lion]

No problem

[upper sandal]

they should be beyond embarrassment considering the noods thing 😉

(and the amazing subtitles of the youtube videos)

[ornate bay]

Just joining now but I'm planning to add hacktoberfest-accepted to PRs so they'll count (and we can work to finsih them before the end of Hacktoberfest)

[sand lotus]

evil dave if you look at the top of this topic you can see the pinned icon, it lists all the live stream times for official adafruit streams.

[upper sandal]

no ?

[clear matrix]

?showtimes

[arctic abyss]

Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/ Foamyguy - 5pm ET Fridays
FoamyGuy's CircuitPython Stream - 11am ET Saturdays

[clear matrix]

That?

[upper sandal]

ah show times !

[sand lotus]

i always forget that bot command

is there a list of commands somewhere? seems a bit redundant to put it in pinned messages lol.

[upper sandal]

oh I'm thinking maybe you should update the pinned message with the more current one ?

[clear matrix]

Donezo.

[sand lotus]

yeah that one lists FoamyGuy's saturday show

[charred lion]

I will have to learn Python because I want to make a custom mech keyboard on a 8×25 grid.
I'm a peek & poke typist and want my own layout. I plan to use AdaFruit's 5×6 MX key grids. I just bought four(4) units to test a 12×10 grid using them.

[sand lotus]

If you want to make a custom keyboard in circuit python you've come to the right place. JP has a couple videos on it, learn guides galore on them.

https://learn.adafruit.com/search?q=keyboard

[charred lion]

I have been watching JP's videos

I plan to use MX Blue RGB keys to get the best LED lighting

[sand lotus]

The learn guides have all the code too and there are different ways to make them with matrixes. Learn guides are awesome.

Half the time i spend in circuit python is spent looking at docs, github, or learn guides.

[ornate bay]

Documentation does count, but they're pretty strict on not allowing "compiled" repos (libraries full of a bunch of other things). It's not what's happening here, but some people will create or contribute to repos that are basically "add your name here" to try and get the t-shirt. The newsletter, while actually useful, still probably falls into that category, if they disallowed it.

[charred lion]

I own a Logitech K845CH with MX Blues.

Cost me CAD$90.00 a year ago.

[sand lotus]

I haven't owned a keyboard without a calculator button for 20 years. It's a requirement for me, once you get used to having one you don't want to be without it again.

[charred lion]

Yes that is JP's project that I'm watching

I was programming computers back in 1981.

I'm also a licensed HAM. I'm also known as the Deviled Ham

I was born in 1960

[ornate bay]

I too suffer from the "opening LibreCalc instead of calculator" issue

[sand lotus]

i don't have a macropad though, this was before macropads really existed. now you can have a dedicated keypad just for shortcuts, macropads are awesome.

[charred lion]

I own a StreamDeck XL so I don't need to build a macropad

[sand lotus]

JP created a touch screen version called the Touch Deck. There's a learn guide on that. 😉

[charred lion]

I will have to check out the Touch Deck in case I want to add it in to my keyboard.

[sand lotus]

you're exceptionally efficient with pycharm, can't imagine you using anything else.

eclipse?

[charred lion]

There is a recently released open source project for a CLI for the stream deck

[ornate bay]

VS Code?

[charred lion]

I retired back in 2000 due to Y2K.

It's really hard to teach an old dog new tricks

Elgato Stream Deck

It has 32 keys with each key having a LCD on them

[sand lotus]

last console i owned was a sega genesis and not even kidding. went full pc after that.

[brazen grove]

it's nintendo, so you need to root it to use homebrew games

[ornate bay]

[brazen grove]

and I think that currently rooting it involves a hardware mod

[ornate bay]

Oh, that's a good question, I don't actually know.

[charred lion]

Never owned a console

[ornate bay]

I know you can sideload for things like the Quest (and there's a community for it), but not sure about the Switch.

[brazen grove]

I have a rooted 2DS XL and it's actually pretty nice, it runs most of the emulators

[charred lion]

I only play Cities: Skylines on PC

[sand lotus]

there's someone i follow on twitter that makes GameBoy clones. think it might be in micropython? nataliethenerd on twitter makes them.

[brazen grove]

you mean like https://hackaday.io/project/186921-game-22?

[charred lion]

The system I play CSL on has a 4K main monitor with a 1080p monitor on each side.

[sand lotus]

oh they're mods, kinda like jose does for the F91 watch. they're boards.

[brazen grove]

yes, still work in progress, I'm still figuring out details for fabrication

[sand lotus]

the pew pew is cool

[brazen grove]

3.2"

iirc

[charred lion]

What is it's resolution on that LCD

[brazen grove]

yes, rp2040 because you can't buy samd chips anymore

[sand lotus]

have you seen the stuff with dma recently? are you doing dma and/or parallel display for faster fps?

or is that uncessary for 8bit games?

[brazen grove]

320x240

[charred lion]

I want to make a Rpi for a PiHole unit

[brazen grove]

the display is Z320IT010

ILI9341 based

[sand lotus]

yeah ILI is the one capable of parallel mode.

[charred lion]

I'm spoiled, I want a 1080p LCD for the Rpi

[brazen grove]

I would actually love lower resolution, I do 2x2 pixels on this one

high-resolution is bad for this kind of games, because pushing all those pixels to the display takes too much time

[sand lotus]

yeah if you want 1080p and good graphics the only real choice is a Pi and HDMI. Even DMA parallel doesn't hold a candle to HDMI.

[charred lion]

500 = C I believe

[brazen grove]

also, it's hard to make nice-looking sprites in high resolition, but you can draw a 16x16 sprite in 15 minutes

[charred lion]

"C"

There is actually a UNICODE set that has Roman numerals

[sand lotus]

hmm that might be cool to use for some basic encryption

i need to get back to my lora project after halloween. i'll be making up my own encyption scheme for my mailbox so i don't trigger anything else using lora out there or vice versa.

[brazen grove]

I use double-rot13

[sand lotus]

i want to try to make my own for fun

simple substitution, the roman numeral angle sounds really fun to include.

[brazen grove]

use a one-time pad, that is unbreakable

[charred lion]

ROMAN numerals starts at UNICODE U+2160

[sand lotus]

i've dabbled in a lot of different types

[charred lion]

Build a digital radio to receive COSMIC radiation and use it as your seed

[sand lotus]

was actually part of the hunt for breaking the zodiac killer encryption. i didn't get credit for it but my idea is part of ultimately what lead to the recent answer.

[charred lion]

The Jack Ryan books described how it works.

It filled a CD with the seed and Duplicate them to both ends and I worked out an extension of the idea to drive the three letter agencies nuts

[sand lotus]

random generators are great, one of my favorite implementations i think in the late 90's or early 2000's was using your mouse to create random passwords, that was a lot of fun spazzing out your mouse to make one. 😛

[grand tusk]

You could turn them all black.

[charred lion]

Encode your seed inside a image

[grand tusk]

I think somebody added color_index to vectorio objects.

[sand lotus]

yeah that's called a polyphonic substitution, harder to crack but still quite easy to crack these days with programs.

putting codes inside images is the purpose of an entire reddit topic, they have challenges once a year too. hiding code inside audio and video.

some of those guys get pretty creepy too, like serial killer creepy, so i had to stop hanging out around there. some of them are not quite right upstairs.

[charred lion]

Have a huge seed and the have a starting point, length & direction. Then use the packet date,time to change it every minute or so

[sand lotus]

that almost looks like Klingon 😛

[brazen grove]

they are all Japanese Hiragana

[charred lion]

Pad your data as UNICODE or even worse, ancient IBM character encoding

[brazen grove]

Korean Hangul is more angular and composed of 1-3 parts

[sand lotus]

I'm an American so I only speak 1 language, American.

[charred lion]

In WWII they used Apache language to encode the voice radio

[brazen grove]

Korean looks like 훈민정음

[sand lotus]

the scout always had a hat i think, i mean his weapon is a bat and baseball.

[charred lion]

It drove the Japanese nuts

[brazen grove]

but Apache uses latin letters, with some accents like ą

the Cherokee has a cool alphabet

[sand lotus]

guess i stopped playing before they started with the skins stuff

[charred lion]

Don't know, just remember it being told it back in junior high back in the 70s

[brazen grove]

actually a syllabary like Hiragana/Hangul

[inner spade]

Should the button colors also be blanked for T/F? Flash the correct one?

[sand lotus]

Gowran would like to speak with you about your weakness to defend the empire.

aaaaand a batlith through the stomach

[charred lion]

I believe there is a SD card reader for I2C

[sand lotus]

i've seen the lava lamp for that, yeah that was cool.

ohh ferrofluid while playing music would be a good one too

[inner spade]

The button neopixel colors aren’t blanked for T/F.

[sand lotus]

if you want true random chaos get a large group of 6 year olds together and ask them about stuff they like.

[brazen grove]

_stage is the C part that is compiled in, stage is the python part that is either frozen or has to be copied into lib

[charred lion]

I feal like we are trying to design a modern day enigma

[brazen grove]

the docs for the python lib are at http://circuitpython-stage.rtfd.io

sorry

[charred lion]

I'm getting flashbacks to the old BBS days

[clear matrix]

What's actually being built today, anyway? I've been otherwise occupied and haven't caught the stream. But I'm intrigued by some of the questions and comments here.

[charred lion]

Back when you had to build a small circuit so you could then download the old software back in the pre Hayes modem days

[brazen grove]

the thing with the stage library is that it's not really published in the circuitpython's docs

[sand lotus]

the trivia questions are setting off chat talking about the questions 🙂

[brazen grove]

it was "stage Library" under a link, and then someone added backticks areound "stage" and broke the link

[grand tusk]

Quoting and cache invalidation are the three hardest problems in computers.

[sand lotus]

which is random, so we start talking computer randomness which naturally leads to encryption.

[brazen grove]

the three hardest problems are: naming things, cache invalidation, scheduling, and off-by-one errors

[grand tusk]

The list just keeps getting longer.

[brazen grove]

https://tenor.com/view/spanish-no-one-expected-inquisition-gif-18096957

[charred lion]

And then you get weird stuff from old farts like me

[brazen grove]

I would do

`stage Library <http...`

and forget about making "stage" a keyword

also

``_stage``

yes

restrtuctured text is black magic

[sand lotus]

Yesh, it runs through all of them to make 1 doc change? Seems inefficient.

[brazen grove]

I don't like markdown because it uses html tags

[clear matrix]

I know Markdown better than RST, so ... that's my go to.

[brazen grove]

also, I can never remember the order of url and label in the markdown links

[clear matrix]

Bracket > Parens. Alphabetical. Label > URL.

Is how I remember.

[brazen grove]

works in English I suppose

[sand lotus]

Only reason I know markdown at all is due to Wikipedia and GitHub.

[clear matrix]

Valid point.

[brazen grove]

wikipedia uses markdown now?

it used to have its own markup

[sand lotus]

I thought it was similar enough.

[ornate bay]

The comments? I think I've typically seen them near their relevant functions. But I also just caught up and might have missed the context.

It's actually really nice for people don't really know much C to know where to find things 😄

Ohhhh, yeah, that is weird

[sand lotus]

We get pr counts? I’m on a hunt in the last few days to actually get some prs to count. Still at 0/4 😣

[ornate bay]

Yup, that will definitely count

[brazen grove]

I should really do more reviewing, but it's what may day job mostly consists of, so I usually prefer to do anything else

[modern night]

Have to have a good balance in life, it's really important to make sure whatever you're doing works towards making you happy

[brazen grove]

problem is any practical project will always have some parts you don't necessarily like, that still need to be done, and the project as a whole is usually still enjoyable

[sand lotus]

Do RGB matrix panels use it?

[ornate bay]

Yeah, some of these were pretty abstract to add links to.

[brazen grove]

I'm going to bed, goodnight and great thanks for adding those links to Stage, it does make things easier to find

[sand lotus]

Yeah audiobusio is the one I thought was supposed to replace audiocore? That came up last JP stream because he used audiocore and it confused me.

[brazen grove]

audiobusio is a drop-in replacement for audioio, plus has pdm microphone support in it

same audiopwmio

[clear matrix]

Have a good one, @brazen grove!

[sand lotus]

I’ve used i2s. It’s confusing finding an example depending if you’re working with wav or mp3. As you can see, audioio, audiobusio, audiocore. So many. Confusing.

[brazen grove]

audiocore is the parts common for audioio, audiopwmio and audiobusio

[sand lotus]

Yup then add audio pwm, audio mixer.. the list just seems to go on and on.

Think the brand new person sensor camera uses cp?

[noble grove]

There's a thing called an ESPcam

[sand lotus]

Oh that says mp, nvm.

[noble grove]

I think it's based on the ESP8266

[sand lotus]

Yeah there’s something called LCD CAM in the S3 code I stumbled upon last week trying to figure out an s3 issue.

Think that was part of a Phil b or jepler project?

[modern night]

Thanks for the stream! This was lovely!

[proper prawn]

Thank you tim. Good night everyone!

[sand lotus]

Thank you for streaming.

👋

[hasty frigate]

This is weird

[jovial estuary]

LOL nice morse code on that one

[smoky island]

Starting up the morning stream now. Working on some 3D Modeling today. Follow along on YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqDfEScWQ-c or twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch

[inner spade]

👋

[sand lotus]

Good morning. ☕️

That’s known as the board outline.

Outer dimensions of a pcb is called the outline.

[inner spade]

Will scad accept formulae for dimensions, such as 2.74 * 2.54 ?

(3.2 - 2.74) / 2 is the distance from the edge to the display, perhaps?

Good eye. Yeah, not symmetrical.

The screw holes will also have some slop in the physical world.

[sand lotus]

even if you do end up covering up part of the visible screen you can always shift something by pixel.

[inner spade]

Is there a model of the key switch?

[sand lotus]

probably in 3d cad parts, they're getting pretty good over there.

3d cad parts is adafruits 3d cad repo

github

probably has a part that includes the actual switch you need

https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CAD_Parts/tree/main/4980 NeoKey 1x4 QT

that uses the switches, sometimes the switch is included

oh nvm :/

doesn't the macropad use them?

[inner spade]

Check out the key mount plate https://learn.adafruit.com/walkmp3rson-personal-mp3-tape-player/assemble-the-walkmp3rson

[sand lotus]

https://cdn-learn.adafruit.com/assets/assets/000/115/114/medium640mp4/projects_cad-explode-2.mp4?1663180492

the exploded diagram has switches in it

[open surge]

What about the step file?

[inner spade]

Align to outer edges of comparable holes instead of center. Easier to align.

[sand lotus]

what file format do you prefer i can export it with the switches

and the board, so you can lineup the board to your board for size comparison.

would something like that help? best i can do

it's from the exploded walkperson so probably noe designed

pretty sure that's the same board you have?

[noble grove]

probably doesn't matter for 4 switches, but it should be 19.05 mm .

You didn't imagine it. I asked before I looked at the title bar.

mm

[sand lotus]

and my fusion 360 crashed. this always online stuff has to stop. bring back programs on the HDD.

[noble grove]

3/4"

Honestly, I don't know which is the design spec, but the 5x6 snapappart has 0.75" pitch.

less than the thickness of a piece of paper

less than 1mm over the width of a full size keyboard

[sand lotus]

no idea if this will work, if not blame autodesk

woah, supposed to be a scad file :/

[modern night]

worse comes to worse you can always sand it a bit to get some more room

[sand lotus]

maybe discord cut it off?

[inner spade]

If the switches press-fit and snap into the case holes from above, then you may not need mounting holes.

[sand lotus]

file size is about 7mb yeah

[noble grove]

exploded on an angle?

[sand lotus]

dunno, i just hid everything else and straight up exported. no idea why it would be like that in the original file

ohh i never actually orbited around it, yeah it's off center

can fix

[noble grove]

why only 3

?

[inner spade]

Doesn’t need the screw holes if switches snap into openings from above, I believe.

Case may be too thick for the barbs.

[sand lotus]

switches centered over the board

[noble grove]

Tight holes = self threading

[sand lotus]

oh i'd go with heatset inserts, i love those things.

m3 screws fit perfectly, they're great.

the hole sizes are really weird for the board, i don't understand them at all.

holes everywhere

yeah pc screws does well, the tiny tiny ones are probably the HDD tray screws. they're the smallest.

pc fan screws are really grippy

[noble grove]

Flat head screws, or round head?

[sand lotus]

did you snag the v2 scad file with the centered switches?

[inner spade]

My go-to if the local Ace Hardware is out of small screws. https://www.adafruit.com/product/3658

[noble grove]

Subtracted the boss instead of adding it?

[sand lotus]

yeah i got some nylons from adafruit recently

it's a great set

i usually go with m3 everything though

they do make m4 heat inserts but i haven't had a need to hold something more than m3 can do yet.

[noble grove]

Looks like the PCB is too close to the cover.

[sand lotus]

if all the bars break it'll just drop through.

[noble grove]

For the thickness of the switches.

[inner spade]

The between bars aren’t very stressed.

[sand lotus]

yeah that's a scary amount of clearance for something you're going to be pounding on with your fingers.

sounds like a good idea

[noble grove]

Why do you need a PyPortal and a Pico? Am I missing something?

[sand lotus]

put it on a pico proto board which might have larger holes?

that's a good question, didn't think of that, yeah why 2?

pyportal has a wifi chip already right?

[noble grove]

OIC

[sand lotus]

oh the same display, the ili one

[noble grove]

I got here late.

[sand lotus]

i have one of those, haven't used it in a project yet though. i wanted it because it's the only one that will do parallel mode. basically SPIx4

ah you could wire up a switch to jump back and forth though really doubt anyone would use that kind of feature instead of soldering the jumper.

[noble grove]

Mount on the back cover?

[sand lotus]

yeah back cover, it's gotta have a battery mounted in there too i'll assume, so why not use the back cover, mount a speaker in there too.

i like how todbot showed it in a window on his picostepseq

yeah that's a cool look.

and might afford you access to the GPIO if you use stacking headers.

no that's jp's

nvm it's only visible without the enclosure duh

that's the cool thing about these devices... you build them to do one thing but you could do a TON of different things with them.

[noble grove]

There's a little window for the led

[sand lotus]

footprint is identical for pico and pico w

i'd say put the stemma port on the same side as the stemma on the pico proto cowbell, just so you can get away with a shorter stemma cable

yeah doesn't matter which way it's flipped really. you can put headers through from either side how you want because the pico is so low profile it doesn't matter.

oh didn't know, i don't own one

that's awesome, god i love adafruit's designs.

add in a 9 DOF sensor for driving games or something. who knows where this will lead.

stemma makes everything so much easier

[modern night]

Thanks for the great stream!

[sand lotus]

awesome project, thanks for streaming!

hopefully take a look at my API's for hacktoberfest?

🙂

[inner spade]

Thanks!

[sand lotus]

thank you ❤️

[open girder]

Desk of Ladyada - EYESPI 2.8" TFT revision & Scorpio revisit https://youtu.be/iGL1YvRAKok

[autumn turret]

omg for Rickrolling out loud!

[charred lion]

Hello

[steep mica]

👋 👋

[charred lion]

echo, echo, echo

[autumn turret]

[sand lotus]

👋

[earnest cosmos]

Really glad to see more EYESPI stuff

[charred lion]

Watching on yahoo & chatting here

[autumn turret]

To confirm, the revision will be drop-in compatible?

[sand lotus]

eyespi is a lovely idea, like stemma is. just great stuff.

[autumn turret]

Awesome! Thanks for the clarification

[charred lion]

I wish that I had bought more of those 5×6 boards. I found out I need a total of eight and only bought four

Hardware noob here... what does SPI stand for? Too many abbr to keep up with

[sand lotus]

so for graphics projects I should look into DMA instead of parallel?

yeah i overclocked mine to 70hz at 72 it starts glitching lol

[charred lion]

DMA vs Parallel... PATA was replaced with SATA. And M.2 is replacing SATA

[sand lotus]

someone called the cops because this stuff is so cool it should be illegal

[charred lion]

Still too many abbr's... Even in my messages

[digital crescent]

https://learn.adafruit.com/circuitpython-basics-i2c-and-spi

[charred lion]

Thank you... much too much to type for you to explain
Now opened in Firefox as one of my 100+ open tabs. And sometimes I wonder why my system is slow at times

[sand lotus]

Lixie Labs on twitter has been talking a lot about dithering lately and I didn't see a difference. Can definitely see a difference here. Yeah dithering looks really nice for trails.

well if you're putting neopixels around the perimeter of your ceiling you don't want to have a microcontroller stuck in the corner of your ceiling. You can't always have the neopixels right up against the controller.

[charred lion]

Use USB 3.0 to talk to a remote display😈

[sand lotus]

let's learn about resistor searching yey!!!

[charred lion]

Took awile to find the icon

[sand lotus]

ohhh resistor pack... didn't even know that was a thing! this is great.

[charred lion]

Resistor packs.... Flash backs to S100 systems. Back before SMDs

[steep mica]

I discovered them riiight as I was about to order PCBs with individual pull ups and I am so glad I did. One small part instead of 8 tiny ones.

[sand lotus]

wow i could replace all 16 resistors on my pcb with the same value with like 3-4 resistor packs? that's amazing.

[steep mica]

I used these: 8 X 10k
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/bourns-inc/CAY17-103JALF/3593267

[charred lion]

I miss Heathkit

You could buy a diy PDP 11 computer in kit form

[sand lotus]

this is great for clearing out space on a crowded small pcb. granted my pcb is like a foot long and i can get away with it but this is generally just amazing stuff to know.

[charred lion]

And a 2KW Ham transmitter

[sand lotus]

oh my even comes in through hole 😯

[charred lion]

To shorten your PCB length. Use a flex cable to connect multiple boards or even something like the GPIO bus on the Rpi. Just only use as many pins as you need

[sand lotus]

0804 is the smallest size i'd want to hand solder. anything less and you need a microscope.

[steep mica]

fwiw it's a bit easier when they're together in the larger pacakge. you can kinda sweep

[charred lion]

If they can transmit as much data that a LCD display needs, a flex cable can safely transfer data from board to board

[sand lotus]

all of this is so informative, this is awesome stuff.

[charred lion]

I wonder if they have a transcript of their videos. So much good info here.

[sand lotus]

Remember always save room.... for Doom.

[steep mica]

thank you, happy halloween!

[charred lion]

I thought that nic was gun.depot....sorry... 62yo eyes

[sand lotus]

Happy Halloween everyone 🎃

[haughty quiver]

🌽

[inner spade]

Dental work is needed.

[tacit garnet]

Two candy corns. Wah ha ha!

[open surge]

👋

[robust horizon]

a little bird told me I should check in to the livestream today

[sand lotus]

👋

[shell mason]

🌱

[drowsy inlet]

👋

[shadow epoch]

Hi chat

[fossil musk]

greetings, earthlings!

[vivid ore]

👋

[charred lion]

Beamed in

[silent quartz]

👋

[mighty kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/mybc-gif-24798360

[haughty quiver]

hi!

[drowsy inlet]

stupid question - do you access the psram differently than the flash?

[cinder wind]

Light as a feather!

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/owl-feather-animal-animals-annoyed-gif-24463709

[cinder wind]

If you're using CircuitPython, does it for you automatically. In ESP32 SDK or Arduino, you use ps_malloc() and other things

[sand lotus]

Also recently confirmed this feather S3 works with the RGB matrix featherwing for driving the Adafruit RGB matrix panels.

[robust horizon]

@drowsy inlet In terms of C code the flash and the psram are both accessed in the same way for reading. Of course, writing flash is different. But if you're thinking of needing to worry about "PROGMEM" in AVR Arduino, nothing like that.

[sand lotus]

I think this feather is the most powerful feather board in adafruit's inventory for circuit python. At this price it's a steal. I just picked up 3!

[charred lion]

All I want for Christmas is a cheap BLE dongle for plugging in a TRRS based headset to use with a modern cellphone

[robust horizon]

👋

[sand lotus]

WipperSnapper and an S3 is so overkill for sensor projects but more power to ya if you want to do that.

[charred lion]

Don't care about overkill if it gets the job done

[robust horizon]

Note: This only plays the demo, it's not "playable" per se. The open source code is on github and the connections for the LCD are as follows: c // .mosi_io_num = GPIO_NUM_35, // Feather ESP32S3 silk: "MOSI" // .sclk_io_num = GPIO_NUM_36, // Feather ESP32S3 silk: "SCK" {GPIO_NUM_8 , _DEF_OUTPUT, _DEF_HIGH}, // 0. LCD CS // Feather ESP32S3 silk: "A5" {GPIO_NUM_14, _DEF_OUTPUT, _DEF_LOW }, // 1. LCD DC // Feather ESP32S3 silk: "A4" {GPIO_NUM_15, _DEF_OUTPUT, _DEF_LOW }, // 2. LCD BLK // Feather ESP32S3 silk: "A3" {GPIO_NUM_16, _DEF_OUTPUT, _DEF_HIGH}, // 3. LCD RST // Feather ESP32S3 silk: "A2"

[sand lotus]

I'm definitely picking up more eyespi boards when they come out.

It's still a great video demo Jepler!

[robust horizon]

.bin file to load at offset 0 with esptool.py

[echo canopy]

Question… if your careful NOT to plug the Feather into USB… can you get away with powering it by 3x AA battery pack into the JST ?

[robust horizon]

also big kudos to the original porter of doom to s3, github user @chcbaram https://github.com/chcbaram/esp32-s3-boy_fw

[cinder wind]

Hey this ESP32-S3 really blinks an LED!

[midnight plinth]

What display are you using for this?

[knotty valley]

Wow there is a ton of documentation for this board