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analog fox Sep 16, 2017, 7:26 PM

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Simple circuit, but it's running circuit python!

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Thanks!

umbral dagger Sep 16, 2017, 7:33 PM

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Turning on an LED is the first step.

idle owl Sep 16, 2017, 7:39 PM

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Had to fix a bunch of stuff because I started out a bit wrong with my commits, but I just created my first pull request!

manic glacierBOT Sep 16, 2017, 7:45 PM

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dhalbert

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #257: Overwriting an imported \.mpy file causes crash

I tried a simple test case and could not reproduce this. Could you give a test case?

It may not be specific to .mpy files. What might be true is that there's a delayed write to the filesystem going on. If the board gets hard-reset (or unplugged/plugged back in) before the write is finished, then the filesystem can be corrupted.

Windows definitely has delayed writes, and on my Ubuntu 16.04 system, I am seeing them as well, though not as bad. My practice now is to run sync in the shell...

formal plover Sep 16, 2017, 7:45 PM

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@idle owl Woot woot, congrats!

idle owl Sep 16, 2017, 7:45 PM

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@formal plover Thanks 😄

manic glacierBOT Sep 16, 2017, 7:55 PM

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deshipu

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #257: Overwriting an imported \.mpy file causes crash

I think it just executes some random code then from the updated file, and depending on what code you hit, unpredictable things happen.

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dhalbert

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #257: Overwriting an imported \.mpy file causes crash

Is this the scenario?

You have a main.py that does import some_mpy_module.
main.py is running (you're not in the REPL).
You copy a new version of some_mpy_module.mpy to CIRCUITPY
Bad things happen.

So if the write is incomplete but auto-reload has been triggered, some_mpy_module.mpy will be messed up, and that could cause a problem.

solar whale Sep 16, 2017, 8:42 PM

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@tulip sleet @slender iron Just a "while I think of it" - I downloaded a fresh bundle today and ran into the same problem I had previously in that during submodule update some of the repositories fail due to lack of permission. I was able to workaround it as before by changing all git@... to https:// (and com: to com/) in .gitmodules. Does anyone else run into this or am I the only "outsider" foolish enough to try to build it all? 😉

tulip sleet Sep 16, 2017, 9:03 PM

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@solar whale I'll fix those. Thanks for reminding us. I have some other changes in the works so it will go right in.

solar whale Sep 16, 2017, 9:04 PM

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@tulip sleet Thanks!

manic glacierBOT Sep 16, 2017, 9:07 PM

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deshipu

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #257: Overwriting an imported \.mpy file causes crash

Ah, no, I wasn't explicit enough, my scenario is:

I have a main.py that does import some_mpy_module
main.py is running and is constantly calling functions it imported from some_mpy_module
New version of some_mpy_module.mpy file is copied from the computer
Bad things happen.

My theory is that main.py manages to call a function pointer, which no longer points to a correct place in the flash, before the reset happens.

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dhalbert

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #257: Overwriting an imported \.mpy file causes crash

I would not expect that scenario to be an issue, because the initial import will load the .mpy into RAM. After that point the running program is not going to reference the filesystem. A second import will be ignored because it's already loaded.

However, any file write through the USB drive will provoke a a auto-reload. CPy waits 500 msec for the write to complete and then simulates a ctrl-C. If the file is written incompletely, and a auto-reload happens, then a bad .mpy will be imp...

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deshipu

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #257: Overwriting an imported \.mpy file causes crash

The whole advantage of using .mpy files is that they are not loaded into RAM — the bytecode is ran directly from flash.

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dhalbert

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #257: Overwriting an imported \.mpy file causes crash

That is true of internal frozen modules. It is not true of regular .mpy files: they are not executed from the filesystem flash. All that you save is compiling. I was confused by this at first too; see https://forum.micropython.org/viewtopic.php?t=1962. Only frozen modules that are incorporated into the firmware at build time are executed from flash. Sad but true. I have a project that runs out of memory even with .mpy's. I've had to add some of my (mostly unchanging) modules to the build. So ...

manic glacierBOT Sep 16, 2017, 10:02 PM

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deshipu

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #257: Overwriting an imported \.mpy file causes crash

I think it depends on the platform a little. In any case, a crash does happen when I do the things I described. My theory about why it happens may be wrong, of course, but it still does happen.

manic glacierBOT Sep 16, 2017, 10:19 PM

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dhalbert

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #257: Overwriting an imported \.mpy file causes crash

Could you try the command line with sync above? That would help narrow it down to a delayed-write problem or not.

manic glacierBOT Sep 16, 2017, 10:50 PM

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deshipu

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #257: Overwriting an imported \.mpy file causes crash

Now I can't reproduce the problem, whether I use sync or not. I think I must just hit some unfortunate glitch, and attributed it to this problem, but in reality it's probably a delayed write as you suggest.

umbral dagger Sep 17, 2017, 12:37 AM

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Yay! Just got my first bit of "real" circuitpython code running! ("real" being not just a simple linear script)

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 12:38 AM

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@umbral dagger Nice!

umbral dagger Sep 17, 2017, 12:38 AM

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Guido couldn't convince me to give it a go, Google couldn't, but somehow circuitpython is a very different thing.

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Part of the appeal of ARM Cortext based boards is the ability to work in a higher level language. So far I've been working in C on ATMEGA328 MCUs. C is fun, but the idea of doing the same type of thing in Python is huge.

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 12:42 AM

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@umbral dagger indeed, python is huge deal.

manic glacierBOT Sep 17, 2017, 1:09 AM

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ladyada

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #252: 2\.0\.0 \- bundle mpy doenst work, raw py does

hiya the files have been updated!

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 1:28 AM

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Hey @fading solstice no need to update the demo code, @river quest beat you to it.

umbral dagger Sep 17, 2017, 3:30 AM

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Is anyone else running into issues using the CCS811 driver with CircuitPython 2.0?

fading solstice Sep 17, 2017, 1:56 PM

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@formal plover where is it kept? Github something?

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 2:09 PM

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@fading solstice They pre-load the files into the boards. The files are also at the very end of the learn guide. If you go to the very end of the learn guide there are now two downloads available default files for 1.0 and default files for 2.0.

fading solstice Sep 17, 2017, 2:10 PM

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So you were able update the default files for 2.0

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 2:11 PM

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@fading solstice it's all stashed in main.py. I don't have a Gemma M0, but Lady Ada herself updated it, so it has to be right. Haha.

fading solstice Sep 17, 2017, 2:12 PM

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ok, that good

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 2:14 PM

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@fading solstice Yeah. I opened it with my text editor and the "demo" code was definitely updated.

fading solstice Sep 17, 2017, 2:14 PM

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i will take a look

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 2:14 PM

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https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-gemma-m0/installing-libraries?view=all#files

Adafruit Gemma M0

The Gemma M0 will super-charge your wearables! Small, light, and it's easy to use, so you can do more.

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That's the permalink for it.

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brings ya right down to the end of the guide for ya.

fading solstice Sep 17, 2017, 2:18 PM

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yep. works!

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 2:20 PM

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@fading solstice Great!

solar whale Sep 17, 2017, 2:27 PM

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@umbral dagger Is this the issue you are having - looks like it is still in work. https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_CCS811/issues/3

GitHub

CircuitPython 2.0 rc2 throws RunTimeError in Adafruit_CCS811.py · Issue #3 · adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_CCS811

I am testing CircuitPython 2.0 and found this problem:
code.py output:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "code.py", line 50, in
File "/lib/Adafruit_CCS811.py", line 116, in init
File "librar...

wraith tiger Sep 17, 2017, 2:36 PM

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Is there ntp support in circuit python? I had an idea for making a clock, which I originaly intended to make with arduino code, but since I've been working on learning regular python, I might attempt to make it with circuit python.

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I did a bit of Google searching, but didn't find an answer. Searching mostly turned up references to ntp support in regular python.

fading solstice Sep 17, 2017, 2:45 PM

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@wraith tiger Have you looked at Micropyhon on the using an ESP8266? https://learn.adafruit.com/micropython-basics-how-to-load-micropython-on-a-board

MicroPython Basics: How to Load MicroPython on a Board

Learn how to load MicroPython firmware on a development board.

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https://learn.adafruit.com/building-and-running-micropython-on-the-esp8266/micropython-usage?view=all

Building and Running MicroPython on the ESP8266

How to compile and install MicroPython for the ESP8266 WiFi breakout!

solar whale Sep 17, 2017, 2:47 PM

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@wraith tiger there is amoduel for the esp8266 that looks like it will query ntp for thte time. https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/blob/master/esp8266/modules/ntptime.py

GitHub

adafruit/circuitpython

circuitpython - CircuitPython - a Python implementation for teaching coding with microcontrollers

wraith tiger Sep 17, 2017, 2:50 PM

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Ah, cool. Thanks. Is there a article/web page/document that lists out all the circuit python compatible boards with a comparison of their features & capabilities?

fading solstice Sep 17, 2017, 2:51 PM

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@wraith tiger https://circuitpython.readthedocs.io/en/2.x/docs/supported_ports.html

solar whale Sep 17, 2017, 2:52 PM

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@wraith tiger this might also be of interest - good luck! http://circuitpython.readthedocs.io/en/latest/docs/esp8266/general.html#real-time-clock

lethal abyss Sep 17, 2017, 2:56 PM

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If the list is not enough, micropython has some more : https://github.com/micropython/micropython/wiki/Boards-Summary

GitHub

micropython/micropython

micropython - MicroPython - a lean and efficient Python implementation for microcontrollers and constrained systems

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And you can add micro:bit

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 3:10 PM

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@wraith tiger I've been running CircuitPython on my ESP8266 for awhile now

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There is a note about the built in RTC, @solar whale found it. I would suggest either having it pull the RTC info, or adding a RTC breakout

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You could pull atomic clock info from the net real easily.

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Like @solar whale suggested

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again. haha. @solar whale You're on point my friend!

wraith tiger Sep 17, 2017, 3:25 PM

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Thanks, all. I'll continue my research.

umbral dagger Sep 17, 2017, 3:35 PM

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@solar whale No, I get " MemoryError: memory allocation failed, allocating 160 bytes" on importing the ccs811 module.

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 3:49 PM

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@umbral dagger Which board do you have?

umbral dagger Sep 17, 2017, 3:59 PM

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@formal plover All of them :)... but this is on a Feather M0 Express.

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@formal plover It's all of 143 LOC (plus driver for ccs811, si7021, and ssd1306 (plus support for those)

solar whale Sep 17, 2017, 4:01 PM

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@umbral dagger I can import it on my metro_M0_express. What else are you also importing. It does run out of memeory if you are using other drivers.

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 4:02 PM

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@umbral dagger Yeah I was just going to ask now many other libraries you were importing/using. haha

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I would delete anything you are not using.

umbral dagger Sep 17, 2017, 4:02 PM

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@formal plover If I comment out the import/use of the ccs881 everything works fine.

solar whale Sep 17, 2017, 4:03 PM

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@umbral dagger what esle are you importig?

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Adafruit CircuitPython 2.0.0-1-g5aa8922 on 2017-09-16; Adafruit Metro M0 Express with samd21g18
>>> import gc
>>> gc.mem_free()
19696
>>> import Adafruit_CCS811
>>> gc.mem_free()
7584
>>>

umbral dagger Sep 17, 2017, 4:04 PM

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@solar whale The usual :):
from board import *
import busio
import time

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@solar whale

import gc
gc.mem_free()
19696
import Adafruit_CCS811
gc.mem_free()
7584

solar whale Sep 17, 2017, 4:06 PM

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Adafruit CircuitPython 2.0.0-1-g5aa8922 on 2017-09-16; Adafruit Metro M0 Express with samd21g18
>>> from board import *
>>> import busio
>>> import time
>>> import gc
>>> gc.mem_free()
19136
>>> import Adafruit_CCS811
>>> gc.mem_free()
7040
>>>

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 4:08 PM

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@solar whale That's in kb right?

umbral dagger Sep 17, 2017, 4:09 PM

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@solar whale I get almost the same numbers

solar whale Sep 17, 2017, 4:09 PM

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sorry -no just bytes 😦

umbral dagger Sep 17, 2017, 4:09 PM

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@solar whale

>>> from board import *
>>> import busio
>>> import time
>>> import gc
>>> gc.mem_free()
19200
>>> import Adafruit_CCS811
>>> gc.mem_free()
7104```

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 4:10 PM

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@solar whale wow.

solar whale Sep 17, 2017, 4:10 PM

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so - when do you get th error?

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 4:11 PM

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I keep forgetting the express boards only have 4MB

umbral dagger Sep 17, 2017, 4:13 PM

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The line the trace points me to is
import Adafruit_CCS811

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It's seems to not be getting imported as gc.mem_free() reports 19696

solar whale Sep 17, 2017, 4:16 PM

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@umbral dagger I'm a little confused - when do you see the error?

umbral dagger Sep 17, 2017, 4:17 PM

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When I press CTRL-D to reload (or when it auto-reloads)

solar whale Sep 17, 2017, 4:18 PM

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ah - so you are running the example code.py?

umbral dagger Sep 17, 2017, 4:19 PM

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No, this is something I'm working on.

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 4:20 PM

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If you open up the CC2811.py.... there's this line:
from micropython import const

umbral dagger Sep 17, 2017, 4:22 PM

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yes...

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Here's my code: https://bitbucket.org/dastels/home_control/src/27923066a2acddee03ea890e4bbd865abfad276d/py_sensor_node/?at=master

solar whale Sep 17, 2017, 4:22 PM

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@umbral dagger I am able to run the example code.py file -- I renamed it to ccs811_test.py and ran it manually. Works OK

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ah - the oled is a memory hog - taht will kill you.

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 4:23 PM

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It was just one of many libraries/modules it imports, making sure that nothing in those have been impacted by the 2.0 change

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annnd yes, it's a memory hog.

umbral dagger Sep 17, 2017, 4:23 PM

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The sample code.py works fine

solar whale Sep 17, 2017, 4:24 PM

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I hav e rearely been able to use an OLED with any other driver on an M0

umbral dagger Sep 17, 2017, 4:24 PM

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Hmmmm

solar whale Sep 17, 2017, 4:26 PM

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@formal plover I reacll seing taht and don't recall why it needs it.

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@umbral dagger if you check free memory after loading the oled drive I think you'll see the problem..

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Adafruit CircuitPython 2.0.0-1-g5aa8922 on 2017-09-16; Adafruit Metro M0 Express with samd21g18
>>> import gc
>>> gc.mem_free()
19696
>>> import adafruit_ssd1306
>>> gc.mem_free()
10320
>>> import Adafruit_CCS811
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
MemoryError: memory allocation failed, allocating 896 bytes

umbral dagger Sep 17, 2017, 4:32 PM

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>>> import gc
>>> gc.mem_free()
19696
>>> import adafruit_ssd1306
>>> gc.mem_free()
6384

solar whale Sep 17, 2017, 4:33 PM

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not room for both

umbral dagger Sep 17, 2017, 4:33 PM

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I see the same behaviour.

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wow

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So what's the ETA on the SAMD51 boards?

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😃

solar whale Sep 17, 2017, 4:33 PM

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sigh --- 😉

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 4:34 PM

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Might be able to skinny down that CCS811... MIGHT be able to. I'm assuming it's already been skinnied down if it's running on CircuitPython though

umbral dagger Sep 17, 2017, 4:34 PM

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I guess if I really want the display, I could have another board run it & send the data to be displayed to it.

solar whale Sep 17, 2017, 4:34 PM

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and you can't even do text on the ssd1306 with the included library....

umbral dagger Sep 17, 2017, 4:35 PM

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OLED was a "nice to have"

solar whale Sep 17, 2017, 4:35 PM

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or you can, but it needs bitmapfonts - even more memory...

umbral dagger Sep 17, 2017, 4:35 PM

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Plan B: serial output to the console.

solar whale Sep 17, 2017, 4:36 PM

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@formal plover it might need starvation 😉

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I've been able to us the 14 segment displays with the ht16k33 dirver for some things if you can live with 4 characters....

umbral dagger Sep 17, 2017, 4:39 PM

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I do kind of like the idea of using another Feather M0 Express + OLED wing as a display subsystem. Make it so it could be brought onboard when the '51s are available.

solar whale Sep 17, 2017, 4:41 PM

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Yes - it would be very nice. For now I have given up displays and am just playing witht sensors.

umbral dagger Sep 17, 2017, 4:43 PM

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Hmm.. the Trinket M0 should be able to drive the I2C OLED.

solar whale Sep 17, 2017, 4:43 PM

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@formal plover teh esp8266 does make some things a lot simpler.

umbral dagger Sep 17, 2017, 4:43 PM

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Where's the fun in simpler 😉

solar whale Sep 17, 2017, 4:44 PM

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true - real programmers don't need memory....

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 4:44 PM

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@solar whale Sure does

umbral dagger Sep 17, 2017, 4:45 PM

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@solar whale I remember doing some cool stuff in 1K on the ZX81. Mind you it was all in assembly.

fading solstice Sep 17, 2017, 4:56 PM

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@formal plover does running mpy-cross help with memory?

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 5:00 PM

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@fading solstice No idea. It looks similar to Ampy.

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I've never used mpy-cross

fading solstice Sep 17, 2017, 5:02 PM

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actually i just ran mpy-cross on Adafruit_CCS811.py and imported it and still uses about 10K memory

solar whale Sep 17, 2017, 5:02 PM

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@fading solstice I thnk it only reduces the file size. The actual code is the same.

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 5:07 PM

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Here comes @slender iron to throw down some knowledge

slender iron Sep 17, 2017, 5:07 PM

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@fading solstice @solar whale mpy-cross can reduce the temporary memory needed to load a module so it can help. Once you GC after import it should show about the same because the long term memory is the same.

solar whale Sep 17, 2017, 5:09 PM

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@slender iron thanks for the clarification. So it can help you get started if memory is tight.

slender iron Sep 17, 2017, 5:09 PM

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exactly

fading solstice Sep 17, 2017, 5:10 PM

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@slender iron Is the memory actually used by CP to how the tokenized version of the import?

slender iron Sep 17, 2017, 5:11 PM

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not sure what you mean

fading solstice Sep 17, 2017, 5:11 PM

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what is in the 10k used after i import Adafruit_CCS811

slender iron Sep 17, 2017, 5:13 PM

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byte code, string names and object structure

fading solstice Sep 17, 2017, 5:15 PM

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ok, internal stuff. the same memory usage whether py or mpy

slender iron Sep 17, 2017, 5:16 PM

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yup yup

fading solstice Sep 17, 2017, 5:17 PM

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Does 10k memory usage seems about right or typical?

slender iron Sep 17, 2017, 5:17 PM

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is that for the oled?

fading solstice Sep 17, 2017, 5:18 PM

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Adafruit_CCS811 enviroment senor

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sensor

slender iron Sep 17, 2017, 5:19 PM

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ah, I'm not sure I looked at it

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I added a way to debug the heap through gdb and a jlink

fading solstice Sep 17, 2017, 5:32 PM

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import neopixel uses 3k of GC memory. adafruit_max7219.bcddigits uses 6k

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 6:53 PM

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Just tried experimenting with Twitter API to see if I could pull stuff from my twitter to use on my ESP8266. Wayyyy to far over my head.

idle owl Sep 17, 2017, 6:54 PM

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Aw

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 7:01 PM

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@idle owl yeah :( open weather was like, hey here's a URL and throw your api key in it. Twitter has you do all this weird stuff to connect and authenticate then all kinds of requests.

solar whale Sep 17, 2017, 7:09 PM

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@formal plover Just a thought. Is it any simpler to connect to IFTTT ? then possibly you can tie that to your Twitter. I have not tried IFTTT from circuitpython so I have no idea if it is workable,

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 8:09 PM

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@solar whale Actually!!! I have successfully done IFTTT integration using Webhooks with Circuit Python, awhile ago

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So maybe you are onto something

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I'll have to see if I can Jerryrig something

idle owl Sep 17, 2017, 8:11 PM

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snrk

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 8:13 PM

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lol snark snark @idle owl?

idle owl Sep 17, 2017, 8:14 PM

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@formal plover It's my snorting chuckle response noise. The noise equivalent of a facepalm.

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 8:14 PM

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@idle owl lol nice

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@solar whale Just for a test/fun I want to track changes in followers. I would need to get the number of followers, then store it so it can be compared to next time it grabs the number of followers again.

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@idle owl Can you follow me on Twitter so I can test this?

idle owl Sep 17, 2017, 8:31 PM

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@formal plover I see, it was an elaborate ruse the entire time!

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@formal plover (Yes. 🙂 )

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 8:32 PM

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@formal plover Hahaha

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 9:02 PM

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@solar whale It's not going to work. Good thought though

solar whale Sep 17, 2017, 9:29 PM

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@formal plover oh well. It was worth a shot!

opal elk Sep 17, 2017, 9:46 PM

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it won't work because of IFTTT?

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I could try to do a twitter auth library in CP...

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 10:03 PM

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@solar whale sure was!

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@opal elk yeah, there's no way to pull your Twitter account info from IFTTT. You have to use Twitter API to get that kind of data.

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@opal elk if you can figure it out, more power to you! It would be much appreciated.

idle owl Sep 17, 2017, 10:19 PM

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A friend of mine ordered a Circuit Playground Express today. She had mentioned wanting to learn programming, so we asked her again if she meant it and ended up spending half an hour talking about the CPX, CircuitPython, the community and everything I've learned. She was so excited - we sent her a link to the CPX, just to show her and she'd ordered it before we even heard back.

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I'm really excited to start helping her learn to code!

opal elk Sep 17, 2017, 10:36 PM

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how do I connect to the repl on linux again?

idle owl Sep 17, 2017, 10:37 PM

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screen /dev/ttyACM0 115200 .. I think?

opal elk Sep 17, 2017, 10:38 PM

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miniterm was what I was thinking of

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thanks!

idle owl Sep 17, 2017, 10:39 PM

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@opal elk You're welcome

opal elk Sep 17, 2017, 10:40 PM

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where do I find requests/urequests?

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("ask a circuitpython help- oh wait that's me")

idle owl Sep 17, 2017, 10:41 PM

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@opal elk lol. Not sure about that one.

opal elk Sep 17, 2017, 10:41 PM

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there's a micropython library repo but obviously I'm team CP if there are differences

idle owl Sep 17, 2017, 10:42 PM

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I thought they were working on it though. Check the github issues list?

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 10:42 PM

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@idle owl @opal elk I have it.

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Pump the breaks lol. And screen /dev/ttyACM0 115200 isn't for the ESP8266

opal elk Sep 17, 2017, 10:43 PM

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Hahaha I was trying on the metro

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You know, the one without wifi

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 10:44 PM

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It's /dev/ttyUSB0

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@opal elk Haha I figured

opal elk Sep 17, 2017, 10:44 PM

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I do have a Feather but t was being weird

idle owl Sep 17, 2017, 10:44 PM

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I didn't realise you weren't using one of the express boards

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 10:45 PM

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It will only work on the ESP8266

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Feather HUZZAH ESP8266 is the only Wi-Fi board that supports CircuitPython

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Do you have the Feather HUZZAH ESP8266 @opal elk ?

opal elk Sep 17, 2017, 10:53 PM

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Yep! I've gotten to the REPL before but it would only blink for a second and then all the LEDs were turning off

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 10:54 PM

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@opal elk gotcha

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https://pypi.python.org/pypi/micropython-urequests/0.4.4

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@opal elk Here's the Ampy info to create /lib

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https://learn.adafruit.com/micropython-basics-load-files-and-run-code/file-operations

MicroPython Basics: Load Files & Run Code

Learn a simple workflow for developing code on a MicroPython board.

opal elk Sep 17, 2017, 11:10 PM

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Thanks!

formal plover Sep 17, 2017, 11:10 PM

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You're welcome!

opal elk Sep 17, 2017, 11:36 PM

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Looks like it had been working properly, but didn't have a code.py so nothing was lit up

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I loaded 2.0.0 on it and was having trouble connecting through screen/etc. Had to stop for now but I'll get back to it later/tomorrow

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The nice thing about having it hooked up to my pi is I can keep going at work tomorrow 😄

formal plover Sep 18, 2017, 12:30 AM

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Okay @opal elk, I really appreciate you taking this on. You might need to wipe the board first if it's acting funny.

opal elk Sep 18, 2017, 12:31 AM

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I did erase before writing. I assume it's me not connecting properly.

formal plover Sep 18, 2017, 1:32 AM

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@opal elk looking forward to tomorrow. Thanks again.

manic glacierBOT Sep 18, 2017, 1:47 AM

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maxcoldson

[adafruit/circuitpython] New star added

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maxcoldson

[adafruit/circuitpython] New star added

umbral dagger Sep 18, 2017, 1:53 AM

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I've sadly decided that CP isn't appropriate for my upcoming project... C++ on the feather M0 it is. (Still a huge advance of the atmega328, should be able to do some neat stuff). I do have a couple small projects in mind that the TrinketM0 and CP will be perfect for.

formal plover Sep 18, 2017, 2:14 AM

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@opal elk For tomorrow or whenever; here is what full python uses to interact with Twitter API "Twitter Tools". It's just a bunch of modules/libraries.

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and here's how it is leveraged: http://socialmedia-class.org/twittertutorial.html

stoic gazelle Sep 18, 2017, 5:21 AM

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greetings,
I was testing out a strand of rgb neopixels with circuit python and ended up with several utility functions. for these functions to be useful for others would they need to be structured in a class inside my source file?
https://github.com/waldo323/circuitpython_neopixel_utilities (they need comments 😕 )

GitHub

waldo323/circuitpython_neopixel_utilities

circuitpython_neopixel_utilities - library for manipulating a strip of NeoPixels

idle owl Sep 18, 2017, 5:22 AM

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Welcome, @stoic gazelle !

slender iron Sep 18, 2017, 5:23 AM

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@stoic gazelle that looks super neat! I think having them in a class would be needed when you need common state (like other lengths besides 10). Otherwise, docs and examples are way more important.

stoic gazelle Sep 18, 2017, 5:23 AM

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@idle owl Thanks!

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@slender iron ok thank you

slender iron Sep 18, 2017, 5:26 AM

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no problem 😃

stoic gazelle Sep 18, 2017, 5:30 AM

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are there debugging libraries for circuit python? (like pdb or pdbpp)

slender iron Sep 18, 2017, 6:35 AM

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not yet, sorry @stoic gazelle !

stoic gazelle Sep 18, 2017, 1:09 PM

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@slender iron That's alright, thank you for letting me know :)

opal elk Sep 18, 2017, 2:43 PM

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so, still having problems with accessing /dev/ttyUSB0

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usb 1-1.3: cp210x converter now attached to ttyUSB0

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is ampy or something already connected?

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dconley   2334  0.0  0.1   5332  1520 ?        Ss   Sep17   0:00 SCREEN /dev/ttyUSB0
dconley   7502  0.0  0.4   7160  4436 pts/2    R+   10:44   0:00 /usr/bin/perl /usr/bin/ack -i usb```

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sigh

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killing 2334 worked. no idea where I started that

slender iron Sep 18, 2017, 2:46 PM

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reminder, <@&356864093652516868>, the weekly is at 2pm pst / 5pm est today

solar whale Sep 18, 2017, 2:48 PM

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@slender iron presumably you mean pdt/edt 😉

opal elk Sep 18, 2017, 2:48 PM

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time zones are hard

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I put the UTC offset in my rpi statusbar for just that reason

slender iron Sep 18, 2017, 2:59 PM

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yeah, timezones are hard

opal elk Sep 18, 2017, 3:01 PM

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everyone should just use America (New York) 😄

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not going to be able to make 2/5 fwiw

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I do have the REPL/ampy working with my huzzah

formal plover Sep 18, 2017, 3:09 PM

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@opal elk Nice! woot woot!

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@slender iron This is a call correct?

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Like the one I hopped on late last week?

solar whale Sep 18, 2017, 3:13 PM

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@slender iron I will try to make it.

slender iron Sep 18, 2017, 3:14 PM

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Yup! Trying to do it regularly.

opal elk Sep 18, 2017, 3:18 PM

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sanity check: there's no way to url encode on a huzzah, right? urllib doesn't exist

formal plover Sep 18, 2017, 3:18 PM

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I will try to make it as well.@slender iron

opal elk Sep 18, 2017, 3:18 PM

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and it seems like a waste of space

formal plover Sep 18, 2017, 3:18 PM

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@opal elk I mean, there might be. But if so, I don't use it

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I've used % before if that's what you mean

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Like www.website/%code?

opal elk Sep 18, 2017, 3:22 PM

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well, to take "a word" and make it "a%20word"

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twitter api docs say to do that to the key/secret but note it doesn't change anything

formal plover Sep 18, 2017, 3:23 PM

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I've used it before with the OpenWeather API project I did a couple of weeks ago.

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But since it's mine, I didn't bother. I just plugged in the API key right into the URL

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Not like I'm distributing the code or anything

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So yes it works without a library

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example: s.send(b'GET api.openweathermap.org/data/2.5/find?q=Holt&units=imperial&mode=html&appid=%s HTTP/1.0\r\n\r\n' % key)

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I didn't have a special library for that to work when I had the "key" in my code

opal elk Sep 18, 2017, 3:35 PM

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that isn't url encoding anything though. if you did it yourself that's fine; it doesn't matter here

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now having an issue with base64 encoding

formal plover Sep 18, 2017, 3:40 PM

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@opal elk Gotcha. Yikes, sorry; this project might be a major headache

opal elk Sep 18, 2017, 3:40 PM

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I'm mostly doing it for the challenge "_

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wow. emoticon fail. 😃

formal plover Sep 18, 2017, 3:40 PM

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Hahahah!! I was just going to say: "Something tels me you're doing it because of the challenge though."

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Love it. Well I appreciate you taking this on. I'm looking forward to see if it's doable. If it is, it will be great learning opportunity to see how you did it

opal elk Sep 18, 2017, 3:43 PM

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can I not create a lib/ with ampy to import modules?

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urequests
base64```

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but

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ampy.pyboard.PyboardError: ('exception', '', 'Traceback (most recent call last):\r\n File "<stdin>", line 14, in <module>\r\nAttributeError: \'module\' object has no attribute \'b64encode\'\r\n')

formal plover Sep 18, 2017, 3:47 PM

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@opal elk yup, sure can!

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ampy --port /dev/ttyUSB0 mkdir /lib

opal elk Sep 18, 2017, 3:49 PM

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haha it's lib and not /lib

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(facepalm)

formal plover Sep 18, 2017, 3:49 PM

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hahah

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ampy --port /dev/ttyUSB0 ls

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That will list your directories

opal elk Sep 18, 2017, 3:50 PM

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yep. I just didn't have a trailing slash

formal plover Sep 18, 2017, 3:50 PM

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I gotcha 😃

opal elk Sep 18, 2017, 3:50 PM

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er, leading

formal plover Sep 18, 2017, 3:51 PM

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I follow haha

opal elk Sep 18, 2017, 3:51 PM

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hm it may not have mattered actually

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boot.py
lib
config.json
dconley@intrigue:/home/dconley/circuitpython $ ampy --port /dev/ttyUSB0 ls /lib
base64
urequests```

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they don't have __init.py__ -- could that be it?

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base64.py
micropython_base64.egg-info```

formal plover Sep 18, 2017, 3:53 PM

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Could be, I don't know much about init.py

opal elk Sep 18, 2017, 3:53 PM

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something is going wrong somewhere

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I can import the library but not do anything with it...?

formal plover Sep 18, 2017, 3:53 PM

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I found this "Minimal Python Twitter API" last night.

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https://github.com/geduldig/TwitterAPI

GitHub

geduldig/TwitterAPI

TwitterAPI - Minimal python wrapper for Twitter's REST and Streaming APIs

opal elk Sep 18, 2017, 3:54 PM

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aha

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print(dir("base64"))

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['encode', 'find', 'rfind', 'index', 'rindex', 'join', 'split', 'rsplit', 'startswith', 'endswith', 'strip', 'lstrip', 'rstrip', 'format', 'replace', 'count', 'lower', 'upper', 'isspace', 'isalpha', 'isdigit', 'isupper', 'islower']

formal plover Sep 18, 2017, 3:55 PM

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Oh, sweet. There ya go

opal elk Sep 18, 2017, 3:55 PM

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it's encode() (which seems deprecated but whatever)

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still no, somehow

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I think I need to wait for scott or dan 😦

manic glacierBOT Sep 18, 2017, 4:06 PM

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mmabey

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #184: Add a way to do a reset from code

@deshipu I don't know if these are the kind of solutions you're looking for, but MicroPython has a reset() function as well as something called a watchdog timer. Perhaps @tannewt can comment on the likelihood that one or both of these could be ported over to CP.

timber lion Sep 18, 2017, 4:08 PM

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not sure i'll be around at 11 fyi, cat has her annual vet exam right before

formal plover Sep 18, 2017, 4:10 PM

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@opal elk yeah, this is way over my head

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Hence why I was like halllllp

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If we can collectively figure out Twitter API, this will make any other projects with CircuitPython and API integration a breeze.

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Which will be huge whenever they make an wifi express/M0 baord

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We'll be ahead of the game. blinka 💯 😃

opal elk Sep 18, 2017, 4:14 PM

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right now I'm going to try to get it working if you b64 encode your credentials on your own

formal plover Sep 18, 2017, 4:15 PM

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@opal elk sounds good!

manic glacierBOT Sep 18, 2017, 4:16 PM

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elf55

[adafruit/circuitpython] New star added

opal elk Sep 18, 2017, 4:22 PM

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okay yeah this is an import issue, because urequests ain't working either

formal plover Sep 18, 2017, 4:43 PM

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@opal elk strange.

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This will crack you up... So I updated the board to CircuitPython 2.0, connected via serial and brought up the repl... Left it there for a couple days.. Go start working on this API project.. Can't figure out why nothing is working.

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Realize I wiped the board before upgrading and never replaced the default boot.py made the /lib directory, none of that.

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Scratched my head for like an hour before I realized it.

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So I know creating the directory and adding the libraries to the directory works. I'm able to import them

solar whale Sep 18, 2017, 4:48 PM

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I think Adafruit should create a Software version of the Sparky the Blue Smoke pin. I would be eleigble for a large collection 😉

opal elk Sep 18, 2017, 4:51 PM

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can you ls /lib/<whatever> ?

solar whale Sep 18, 2017, 4:58 PM

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@opal elk are you trying top just list a single fiel if it is there or a subdirectory?

opal elk Sep 18, 2017, 4:58 PM

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well my issue is that modules aren't loading properly for me

formal plover Sep 18, 2017, 4:59 PM

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ampy --port /dev/ttyUSB0 ls boot.py lib

drowsy geyser Sep 18, 2017, 5:02 PM

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Potentially dumb question but... did mass storage break/change in CircuitPython 20170916 75c3be3? I flashed my Circuit Playground Express with it this morning, and no mass storage appeared. Without noticing, I flashed my M0 Adalogger, and same thing. So I'm curious....

formal plover Sep 18, 2017, 5:02 PM

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ampy --port /dev/ttyUSB0 ls /lib urequests.py

solar whale Sep 18, 2017, 5:03 PM

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@opal elk under python3 on my desktop, I can't do os.listdir("/dir/file") - throws error since fiel is nota directory. I

opal elk Sep 18, 2017, 5:03 PM

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ah I might know what the problem is

solar whale Sep 18, 2017, 5:05 PM

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@drowsy geyser If you are using linux, I have seen it often list the drive in my file manger, but not auto mount it. If I click on the CIRCUITPY drvie in the File mager it mounts fine.

drowsy geyser Sep 18, 2017, 5:07 PM

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@solar whale I should have mentioned, this is on Windows10

solar whale Sep 18, 2017, 5:08 PM

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soryy - cna't help there. I have not determined why it sometimes automounts and sometimes does not but it has not been a big problem.

opal elk Sep 18, 2017, 5:08 PM

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yep, I had my structure as

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    /base64
        base64.py```

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now I'm getting a memory error

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computers are fun

formal plover Sep 18, 2017, 5:09 PM

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@opal elk Ah yeah, that'll do it

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Re-flash. lol

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when in doubt, nuke it lol

opal elk Sep 18, 2017, 5:09 PM

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haha yep

opal elk Sep 18, 2017, 5:25 PM

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well now ampy is freezing on me

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but

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I can give you untested code?

formal plover Sep 18, 2017, 5:26 PM

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@opal elk Haha yeah. I'll need the links to the libraries if you have them handy

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I won't be able to test it till after work anyways.

opal elk Sep 18, 2017, 5:31 PM

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@formal plover https://gist.github.com/Sigafoos/5bdfeb8ef53bb44634f06223dd19dba7

Gist

In CircuitPython

formal plover Sep 18, 2017, 5:32 PM

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@opal elk thanks!

manic glacierBOT Sep 18, 2017, 7:32 PM

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tannewt

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #256: trinket\_m0 pins\.c file does not define A1,A2,A3,A4

Nope, I don't think its intentional. Mind taking a stab at adding them? Thanks!

slender iron Sep 18, 2017, 7:38 PM

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ok, I've got OBS set up to record the weekly later

idle owl Sep 18, 2017, 7:47 PM

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@slender iron Nice

slender iron Sep 18, 2017, 7:47 PM

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hopefully it'll work out

manic glacierBOT Sep 18, 2017, 7:51 PM

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jerryneedell

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #256: trinket\_m0 pins\.c file does not define A1,A2,A3,A4

I'll be glad to. Once cancer, and I can check this when I add them, is does this add to the code size? Since the trinket only has ~40bytes to spare, it may be better to deal with this via documentation rather than adding Aliases. Just a thought - I'll give it a try in the next few days.

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tannewt

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #257: Overwriting an imported \.mpy file causes crash

Ok, sounds like this is too hard to repro to fix now. Please reopen if it happens again and we have a new lead.

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tannewt

[adafruit/circuitpython] Issue closed: #257 Overwriting an imported \.mpy file causes crash

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tannewt

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #256: trinket\_m0 pins\.c file does not define A1,A2,A3,A4

Yeah, it will add a bit of size. Its worth a shot. The binary size will
change a bunch with 3.0 and ASF4 anyway. Thanks!

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 12:51 PM jerryneedell notifications@github.com
wrote:

I'll be glad to. Once cancer, and I can check this when I add them, is
does this add to the code size? Since the trinket only has ~40bytes to
spare, it may be better to deal with this via documentation rather than
adding Aliases. Just a thought - I'll give it a try in the next few days...

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dhalbert

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #256: trinket\_m0 pins\.c file does not define A1,A2,A3,A4

You can gain space in the non-Express builds by adjusting -finline-limit=<nn> in atmel-samd/Makefile. Lower it by 1 or few at a time. It controls how big inlined routines can be. The value was recently to make room to add some code to dim the status pixel, and now there are 256 bytes free.

formal plover Sep 18, 2017, 8:10 PM

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@slender iron you mentioned something about posting the recording on your podcast? Do you have your own podcast channel?

manic glacierBOT Sep 18, 2017, 8:13 PM

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jerryneedell

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #256: trinket\_m0 pins\.c file does not define A1,A2,A3,A4

Great! I'll give that a try as well. The 40 bytes reference was to the 2 .0.0 I did not note the size on the latest. I'll be more attentive!

lethal abyss Sep 18, 2017, 8:22 PM

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@slender iron OBS is a nice tool, you will like it

slender iron Sep 18, 2017, 8:22 PM

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@formal plover I thought we'd make one for it

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need to talk with @river quest about it. I figured I'd see how it went today

formal plover Sep 18, 2017, 8:23 PM

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@slender iron oh we be FANCY

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haha

slender iron Sep 18, 2017, 8:23 PM

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😃

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I'll record the discord video along with the audio 🤞

formal plover Sep 18, 2017, 8:34 PM

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@slender iron like the chat feed or did you guys have video last time and I didn't notice?

slender iron Sep 18, 2017, 8:34 PM

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chat feed

manic glacierBOT Sep 18, 2017, 8:46 PM

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herrold

[adafruit/circuitpython] New star added

fading solstice Sep 18, 2017, 8:56 PM

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@tulip sleet @slender iron Adding a new library to Bundle and running build-bundle.py, i got an unexpected result. I had a libclass.py file and an example.py in my submodule project. The build-bundles.py created a subfolder in the .zip file that contained both .mpy files. I really don;t think we should emit the example.py file at all And the libclass.mpy file should be right in lib folder along with other single .mpy s. Any suggestion?

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Adafruit_CircuitPython_DHTlib is the repo i am adding to Bundle

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https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_DHTlib.git

GitHub

adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_DHTlib

Adafruit_CircuitPython_DHTlib - CircuitPython support for DHT11 and DHT22 type temperature/humidity devices

slender iron Sep 18, 2017, 9:00 PM

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wanna join the voice chat @fading solstice ?

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<@&356864093652516868> we're in the voice channel

formal plover Sep 18, 2017, 9:22 PM

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I can't hear @solar whale?

slender iron Sep 18, 2017, 9:22 PM

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refresh? I can

formal plover Sep 18, 2017, 9:22 PM

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Good now 😃

slender iron Sep 18, 2017, 9:23 PM

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good 😃

tulip sleet Sep 18, 2017, 9:49 PM

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https://circuitpython.readthedocs.io/en/latest/shared-bindings/index.html

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Support Matrix on the page above shows which board supports which modules.

tidal kiln Sep 18, 2017, 9:50 PM

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no mic. just listening.

slender iron Sep 18, 2017, 9:50 PM

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/say hi

formal plover Sep 18, 2017, 9:50 PM

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?say hi

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haha

tidal kiln Sep 18, 2017, 9:59 PM

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/say later all!

idle owl Sep 18, 2017, 10:18 PM

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@slender iron It works if I use self.speaker_enable.switch_to_output(value=True) in the play_tone def, and then put a false one at the end, but using self.speaker_enable = True or self.speaker_enable(value=True) doesn't work. I'm sure it's that those are wrong. (If you're heading out, don't worry about it for now)

slender iron Sep 18, 2017, 10:28 PM

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Try self.speaker_enable.value = False

idle owl Sep 18, 2017, 10:28 PM

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ahhhh ok. Trying

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Works!

slender iron Sep 18, 2017, 10:35 PM

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Yay!

formal plover Sep 18, 2017, 11:03 PM

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Yay!

idle owl Sep 18, 2017, 11:09 PM

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Changes committed.

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 12:14 AM

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Congrats @idle owl on the merged pull request!

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Here is the video from the meeting today: https://youtu.be/OX825aegraw

YouTube

Adafruit Industries

@adafruit #adafruit

CHAT IS HERE! http://adafru.it/discord ----------------------------------------- Visit the Adafruit shop online - http://www.adafruit.com Subscribe to Adafru...

▶ Play video

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 1:01 AM

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@slender iron Thank you!

drowsy geyser Sep 19, 2017, 1:50 AM

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BTW, the problem with mass storage was a laptop-needing-rebooting problem, not a CircuitPython build problem.

drowsy geyser Sep 19, 2017, 2:11 AM

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But, ah, there's a 404 link in this page: https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_LIS3DH/releases

GitHub

adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_LIS3DH

Adafruit_CircuitPython_LIS3DH - Adafruit CircuitPython module for the LIS3DH accelerometer.

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The link to the Adafruit CircuitPython Bundle gives a 404. I think the link needs to be updated.

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 2:14 AM

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Adafruit is spelled wrong. In the link destination.

drowsy geyser Sep 19, 2017, 2:16 AM

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@idle owl Do you want me to go ahead and fix it?

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 2:16 AM

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@drowsy geyser I don't see why not.

drowsy geyser Sep 19, 2017, 2:17 AM

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Ok, cool. Just wanted to check before I go tinkering in the GitHub repo.

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 2:17 AM

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@drowsy geyser Just updating a link should be fine.

drowsy geyser Sep 19, 2017, 2:18 AM

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Ok. Danke.

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 2:20 AM

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Bitte. And thank you!

drowsy geyser Sep 19, 2017, 2:23 AM

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You're welcome! I'm actually not sure how to do a new release, though. Perhaps I should let a more experienced dev fix it (though I'd like to know how).

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 2:27 AM

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Ah right, I was thinking it was just updating docs, that link is part of the actual release. I would file an issue within the repo.

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@slender iron Is there an easy way to update a link in the LIS3DH release you made 13 days ago?

drowsy geyser Sep 19, 2017, 2:29 AM

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Thanks. Opening an issue. 😃

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 2:39 AM

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Updated!

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 2:41 AM

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Excellent, thank you!

umbral dagger Sep 19, 2017, 3:19 AM

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I'm still learning my way around the various codebases that make up CP and its ecosystem... where woudl I find the source for pulseio?

solar whale Sep 19, 2017, 3:37 AM

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@umbral dagger https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/tree/master/shared-bindings/pulseio

GitHub

adafruit/circuitpython

circuitpython - CircuitPython - a Python implementation for teaching coding with microcontrollers

umbral dagger Sep 19, 2017, 3:52 AM

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@solar whale Thanks.

marble talon Sep 19, 2017, 5:46 AM

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I've got a Feather M0 Express with CircuitPython 2.0.0 installed and a pam8302 amp attached to A0. Using audioio I'm able to play one of three wav files I have on the board (yay!). Playing the other two files resulted in errors so I used sox to convert the files to mono, 10-bit, and now they play, but they are garbled. I'm looking for suggestions on what I might need to do to the files to make them play correctly?

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 6:13 AM

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@umbral dagger thats the bindings part. check atmel-samd/common-hal/pulseio for the port specific stuff.

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@marble talon try either 8 bit or 16 bit. I'm not sure how the code will handle 10 bit. I used audacity to do the conversion when I was testing it.

marble talon Sep 19, 2017, 6:17 AM

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@slender iron , Yeah, that got me closer. There's still some distortion at the beginning of the sample it's recognizeable.

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+but

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They are similarly distorted, but the second one gave me this additional output from sox: sox WARN dither: dither clipped 17 samples; decrease volume?

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I don't know sox very well but I'm sure I can figure out how to decrease the volume when converting. Meanwhile, though, the sound output is already rather quiet. I don't see a volume feature on audioio but I think I have the amp turned all the way up. Is there something else I can do in software to increase volume?

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 6:38 AM

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its not super loud

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an external speaker would be louder

marble talon Sep 19, 2017, 6:40 AM

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@slender iron I have an amp (https://www.adafruit.com/product/2130) and speaker attached

Adafruit Mono 2.5W Class D Audio Amplifier - PAM8302

This super small mono amplifier is surprisingly powerful - able to deliver up to 2.5 Watts into 4-8 ohm impedance speakers. Inside the miniature chip is a class D controller, able to run ...

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 6:41 AM

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ah! I was thinking you were on the circuitplayground express!

marble talon Sep 19, 2017, 6:42 AM

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Ah, no--see above!

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 6:43 AM

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did you try turning the pot on the amp breakout?

marble talon Sep 19, 2017, 6:43 AM

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Yeah, it's at full. Though it seems to turn backward from what would normally be expected?

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I just realized I didn't tie Audio- to ground, though.

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 6:43 AM

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I don't have one of the boards so I'm not sure the right way

marble talon Sep 19, 2017, 6:43 AM

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Liable to make a volume difference?

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 6:44 AM

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perhaps!

marble talon Sep 19, 2017, 6:44 AM

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I'll have to pick it up tomorrow. Gotta hit the hay.

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 6:44 AM

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I'm not an audio expert

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I'm headed to bed too. The forums are another good resource to try also

marble talon Sep 19, 2017, 6:44 AM

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Thanks for the help!

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 6:44 AM

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no problem! sorry I couldn't be more help

marble talon Sep 19, 2017, 6:44 AM

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I like the interactivity here. I'm impatient. 😃

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 6:45 AM

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haha, yup I understand that

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more people will be online tomorrow too

marble talon Sep 19, 2017, 6:45 AM

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'night! Saw you're in Seattle, too, btw...

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 6:45 AM

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yup! are you local?

marble talon Sep 19, 2017, 6:45 AM

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Yeah, Roosevelt

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 6:45 AM

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nice! I'm in ballard

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make it to the mini maker faire last weekend?

marble talon Sep 19, 2017, 6:46 AM

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Not this year. Kinda pricey and my family was only nominally interested.

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We've been once or twice before, though. Good time?

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 6:47 AM

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ah. yeah! I like to see what people are up to. Also got to catch up with other adafruit fans too

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just added you to the channel where there is some discussion and pics

marble talon Sep 19, 2017, 6:47 AM

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Yeah, I've done a lot more electronics since I last attended.

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Great--thanks! I saw chatter about that channel and wondered if it would persist...

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What I'm up to is making a portal gun for halloween.

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 6:49 AM

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I'm debating whether I'll leave it. I haven't decided

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portal gun sounds awesome! john park's lucio blaster could be a good reference

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https://learn.adafruit.com/search?q=lucio&

marble talon Sep 19, 2017, 6:50 AM

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I actually built it two years ago and blue out an audio fix board whilst assembling it. It's taken me this long to get up the gumption to try again. They pulled the original board from the adafruit store and then I went down a fruitless (ha ha) Teensy rabbit trail that never worked out. So this is take 3.

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blue=blew

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 6:51 AM

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well I hope you get it going! the audio stuff in circuitpython is pretty new so let me know if you find any bugs

marble talon Sep 19, 2017, 6:52 AM

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Will do. Thanks for your efforts! Hard to say if I'm seeing a bug or just have a problem with my wav file contents.

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 6:52 AM

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well, don't hesitate to file an issue on github and we'll take a look

marble talon Sep 19, 2017, 6:53 AM

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Will do

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 6:54 AM

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😃

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lethal abyss Sep 19, 2017, 10:06 AM

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someone was a bad boy and push forced? 😉

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(I tried another english word instead of bad but a bot learned me I had to watch my language... guess I learned another bad word 😃 )

opal elk Sep 19, 2017, 10:41 AM

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Naughty?

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Nope

umbral dagger Sep 19, 2017, 1:51 PM

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@slender iron A couple followups to my pulseio question. Where is it decided what gets included into each board build? Is there an alternative on the Trinket... I need to do some simple PWM output.

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 2:34 PM

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@opal elk I just stumbled across a genius idea. Setup a Twitter rest API server; like on a VM or something, then just fetch the json data from that!

opal elk Sep 19, 2017, 2:34 PM

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wouldn't that be a rest api to talk to a rest api?

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 3:11 PM

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@lethal abyss it's my own feature branch.

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@umbral dagger mpconfigport.h

lethal abyss Sep 19, 2017, 3:13 PM

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@slender iron no pun intended, just a joke we do in the office because at the very begining of the project under git, someone tried on master 😉

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 3:15 PM

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😁

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 3:49 PM

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MakeCode works with the CPX, right?

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Trying to figure out where to start my friend who's completely new to programming and electronics. I love CP, but I'm wondering if MakeCode is a better place to start for a true beginner. I guess it depends on how quickly she picks it up, whether she can take apart the CP examples to learn more. I never bothered with MakeCode though, I was just enough past that in knowledge that it made learning on it more difficult.

umbral dagger Sep 19, 2017, 3:58 PM

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@idle owl It does. MakeCode is pretty cool from a beginner perspective. Like coding with Lego.

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 3:59 PM

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@umbral dagger Excellent, thank you. Do you feel like it helps you learn your way to other languages?

umbral dagger Sep 19, 2017, 4:00 PM

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@idle owl I think so. It has all the basic concepts. In fact I've started fiddling with writing an into programming book based on MakeCode & Micro:bit (and later CPX).

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 4:01 PM

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@umbral dagger Nice!

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@umbral dagger Thank you. It sounds like the best place to start. I really appreciate your feedback :)

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 4:08 PM

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@opal elk Haha I suppose. I'm just thinking the amount of code and libraries required to get the Twitter API to work is too much for the ESP8266, being that it's a non-express board.

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If I could have something in the web fetch the json data for me. It'd be easier

lofty topaz Sep 19, 2017, 4:12 PM

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I've been programming since 1975. I used MakeCode to program my CPXDE. It worked fine. However, remember two things. Graphical Programming Interfaces are the future and MakeCode is an infant. I would have much rather seen a smart drag-n-drop "Flowchart" but MakeCode is a valid start. My other concerns are that MakeCode is visualy huge, only takes structure to a certain level and isn't easy to expand via developers code. I've always hoped for something like this to come along. When I was using Visual Studio all those years I dreamed of Microsoft coming out with Mental Studio. No typing, just thinking. Also, Eclipse is so massive and covers so many languages and platforms that a MakeCode environment should be able to thrive in the future.

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That's my two cents. 😃

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 4:13 PM

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@idle owl you can also have her try tinkercad https://www.tinkercad.com/learn/

Tinkercad

Learn

Learn how to design in 3D using Tinkercad with our easy-to-use Lessons.

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 4:24 PM

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@lofty topaz Thank you :)

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@formal plover That's one I didn't know about.

marble talon Sep 19, 2017, 4:24 PM

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@slender iron Grounding Audio- fixed the distortion issue and did bring up the volume. I still feel like it's not quite as loud as I would expect. Is there no software volume control in play?

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 4:25 PM

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@idle owl yup! It used to be circuits.io

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 4:26 PM

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@formal plover Nice!

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 4:27 PM

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@marble talon no changes to the wave file in circuitpython. You could look at the waveforms in the wave file and perhaps bump it up in the file

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 4:27 PM

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@idle owl I like to think so. That way she can learn basic electronics concepts as well. Even has a full blown Arduino emulator.

lofty topaz Sep 19, 2017, 4:29 PM

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@formal plover Used TinkerCad A while back on my last computer, before I wore it out, and wasn't too impressed with it. However, I just looked at it from your post and it seems they have taken it to a new level. I normally use Windows 10 Builder for my 3D printing work but it looks like TinkerCad may be a better way to go. Also, I looked at Fusion and its just another Windows app with tons of buttons. 99% of which I probably would never use. So TinkerCad may be of use. Checking it out. Thanks for reminding me of them.

marble talon Sep 19, 2017, 4:29 PM

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@slender iron I believe I've normalized the wav files for maximum non-clipping volume. I've seen other audio libraries have a volume control so wondered if audioio did as well.

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 4:29 PM

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@lofty topaz it's because they acquired a lot of stuff from circuits.io recently

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 4:30 PM

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@formal plover She ordered a CPX so we're starting with a lot of the electronics built in for her first learning experience. But I'll give her this too at the beginning because she seems really eager to learn a bunch at once.

lofty topaz Sep 19, 2017, 4:30 PM

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@formal plover Well, ok, if the integration is appropriate and they make it work, then great.

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 4:30 PM

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@marble talon have you looked in audacity? there is no volume in circuitpython. It doesn't have time to do any math before outputting the audio

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 4:32 PM

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@lofty topaz they basically ported it exactly how it was in Circuits.io, so it works great. I haven't done anything with their 3D stuff, but I'm glad you have a use for it!

marble talon Sep 19, 2017, 4:33 PM

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@slender iron I can give audicity a try, but sox should be able to do the wav manipulations to maximize volume--though it's CLI so there's no visualization. So circuitpython runs at max volume all the time? There's no voltage scaling?

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 4:34 PM

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right, I'm thinking the visualization would be helpful

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yeah, I think so

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it reads the values from the wav file and outputs them directly via the DAC

lofty topaz Sep 19, 2017, 4:35 PM

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@formal plover Oh yeah, absolutely. Now, I'm not one to 3D print large objects, my little XYZ provides me with all the little parts, brackets, standoffs, supports, piece-parts, and cool stuff I need. Builder works fine, but maybe TinkerCad will work great. Who knows? Gonna give it a shot.

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 4:38 PM

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@lofty topaz glad to hear it.

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Let's see if this works... https://www.tinkercad.com/things/8flKnIcX9Sl-arduino-led-blink

Tinkercad

Circuit design Arduino LED blink

3D design 'Arduino LED blink' created by @_Kurt_H with Tinkercad.

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That's my blinky example @idle owl.

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 4:42 PM

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@formal plover Oh neat!

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 4:42 PM

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Even works with components that require somewhat complex wiring, like a LCD display: https://www.tinkercad.com/things/1zmaLOYUTuT-lcd-display

Tinkercad

Circuit design LCD Display

3D design 'LCD Display' created by @_Kurt_H with Tinkercad.

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I'm done posting links now. I promise, lol.

lofty topaz Sep 19, 2017, 4:45 PM

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@formal plover Running the 3D cloud app now. Really smooth. All the standard base components. Looks like more to the environment that needs investigation. Lots of learning tutorials. So far so good. I like what I see.

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Thanks again eh?

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<>

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 4:48 PM

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@lofty topaz awesome! You're welcome! adabot

marble talon Sep 19, 2017, 4:50 PM

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@slender iron Do you know what the reference voltage for the DAC channel is?

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 4:52 PM

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it should be set to vcc https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/blob/master/atmel-samd/common-hal/audioio/AudioOut.c#L163

GitHub

adafruit/circuitpython

circuitpython - CircuitPython - a Python implementation for teaching coding with microcontrollers

marble talon Sep 19, 2017, 4:59 PM

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So the board vin will affect output volume?

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 5:03 PM

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I don't think so because vcc is usually regulated to 3.3

marble talon Sep 19, 2017, 5:04 PM

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Ok

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Thanks!

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 5:04 PM

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np!

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 5:06 PM

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@marble talon interested/excited to see your project when you're done. @slender iron good work on the troubleshooting! Love watching people work through their projects here.

marble talon Sep 19, 2017, 5:07 PM

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@formal plover I'd enjoy showing it off if it works!

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 5:08 PM

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@marble talon Fantastic. Adafruit has a live YouTube/hangouts every Wednesday where people show off their projects. You should definitely do it there when it's done. 😃 blinka

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You probably already know about the segment since you're here on discord, but I figured I'd still mention it.

marble talon Sep 19, 2017, 5:10 PM

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Heh. Yeah, I watched once, but @river quest produces so much frickin' content I can't keep up! I'll see what I can do!

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 5:11 PM

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@marble talon Haha that they do! It's awesome though.

marble talon Sep 19, 2017, 5:11 PM

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No doubt!

opal elk Sep 19, 2017, 5:26 PM

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yeah, I've missed the past few ask an engineers 😦

manic glacierBOT Sep 19, 2017, 5:43 PM

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[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #245: SD Cards producing OSError 19

Adafruit CircuitPython 2.0.0 on 2017-09-12; Adafruit Feather M0 Express with samd21g18

import os
import adafruit_sdcard
import busio
import digitalio
import board
import storage
os.listdir()
['boot_out.txt', '.fseventsd', 'lib', '._lib', 'code.py', '._code.py', '.Trashes']
spi = busio.SPI(board.SCK, board.MOSI, board.MISO)
cs = digitalio.DigitalInOut(board.D10)
sdcard = adafruit_sdcard.SDCard(spi, cs)
vfs = storage.VfsFat(sdcard)
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meichr

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Adafruit CircuitPython 2.0.0 on 2017-09-12; Adafruit Feather M0 Express with samd21g18

import os
import adafruit_sdcard
import busio
import digitalio
import board
import storage
os.listdir()
['boot_out.txt', '.fseventsd', 'lib', '._lib', 'code.py', '._code.py', '.Trashes']
spi = busio.SPI(board.SCK, board.MOSI, board.MISO)
cs = digitalio.DigitalInOut(board.D10)
sdcard = adafruit_sdcard.SDCard(spi, cs)
vfs = storage.VfsFat(sdcard)
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tannewt

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #245: SD Cards producing OSError 19

Ok, I've ordered Transcend, Verbatim and Lexar cards to test with. @meichr could you post a picture of the cards? I think I've tested a similar Samsung card and it worked ok.

My test cards so far:

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 6:29 PM

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@fading solstice have you run git submodule update in the branch for that pull request?

fading solstice Sep 19, 2017, 6:32 PM

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i did. i run git status and I get :

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Changes not staged for commit:
(use "git add <file>..." to update what will be committed)
(use "git checkout -- <file>..." to discard changes in working directory)

    modified:   circuitpython (new commits)
    modified:   libraries/drivers/dotstar (new commits)
    modified:   libraries/drivers/is31fl3731 (new commits)
    modified:   libraries/drivers/lis3dh (new commits)
    modified:   libraries/drivers/neopixel (new commits)
    modified:   libraries/helpers/bus_device (new commits)
    modified:   libraries/helpers/register (new commits)

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i guess i should add these changes?

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 6:37 PM

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right, I think thats undoing the first commit in your pull request

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try doing git rebase -i and deleting the first commit so its dropped

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how are things @plucky flint ?

floral dagger Sep 19, 2017, 6:54 PM

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been setting this up on an old huzzah, and it seems to work fairl well, but when I run the line
import webrepl_setup
I just get errors and nothing starts. The ESP is connected to m home wifi network if that makes a difference.

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I suppose I should have phrased that as a question. Apologies

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 6:55 PM

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@formal plover or @solar whale are the esp8266 pros around here

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 6:59 PM

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@floral dagger @slender iron I can help troubleshoot in a couple of hours when I'm home from work. Jerry might be available though.

floral dagger Sep 19, 2017, 7:00 PM

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That would be great @formal plover take your time. There's no rush at all, just thought I should ask before I forget again. Thanks

fading solstice Sep 19, 2017, 7:00 PM

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@slender iron that seems to clean it up.

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 7:00 PM

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yay!

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@fading solstice would it be easy to drop the lib from the name? the other libraries don't have it

fading solstice Sep 19, 2017, 7:02 PM

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i like that

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so let me understand adafruit_dhtlib -> adafruit_dht?

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Adafruit_CircuitPython_DHTlib -> Adafruit_CircuitPython_DHT??

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 7:04 PM

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Speaking of not forgetting... Hey @slender iron can you summarize the difference between a .mpy file and a .py file?

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 7:04 PM

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yes please @fading solstice

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@formal plover mpy is a binary format that drops the whitespace and comments and such

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 7:06 PM

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@slender iron ah, nice. Is there ever a time where you can't use one or the other?

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 7:06 PM

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py is preferable because its human readable

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but pys take more memory to load

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after they load the memory footprint is the same though

fading solstice Sep 19, 2017, 7:07 PM

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@slender iron I think you need to change the Repository name. we can wait on that. i will rename the .py file and the folder submodule name

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 7:07 PM

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I can do it or we can leave it

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actaully, I'll just do it now

plucky flint Sep 19, 2017, 7:08 PM

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hey @slender iron hi everyone

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 7:08 PM

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hi @plucky flint

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 7:08 PM

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done @fading solstice

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hi @plucky flint 👋

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 7:09 PM

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@slender iron thank you for the explanation.

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 7:09 PM

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np @formal plover

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plucky flint Sep 19, 2017, 7:09 PM

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Had such a busy day. I'm going to find some food and sleep. 😃 💤

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ciao ciao

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 7:10 PM

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good night!

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 7:10 PM

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@plucky flint Have a good evening!

solar whale Sep 19, 2017, 7:23 PM

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@floral dagger can you describe or post the erros you are getting when you try to start the webrepl?

floral dagger Sep 19, 2017, 7:24 PM

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Yes @solar whale Gimme just a second, I want to finish diagramming something before my old brain forgets what I was doing lol

solar whale Sep 19, 2017, 7:25 PM

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np. take your time - I'll be in and out

floral dagger Sep 19, 2017, 7:29 PM

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Hi @solar whale thanks for taking the time to do this. The error is:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
  File "webrepl_setup.py", line 111, in <module>
  File "webrepl_setup.py", line 79, in main
  File "webrepl_setup.py", line 48, in get_daemon_status
OSError: [Errno 1] EPERM
>>>

solar whale Sep 19, 2017, 7:29 PM

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hmm - not anything I have seen - what is in your boot.py file?

floral dagger Sep 19, 2017, 7:30 PM

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I honestly have no idea. I am pretty new to ths. How would I check?

solar whale Sep 19, 2017, 7:30 PM

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are you familiar with using ampy?

floral dagger Sep 19, 2017, 7:31 PM

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no, just putty

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I'll give it a shot though

solar whale Sep 19, 2017, 7:32 PM

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just a sec - let me try a few things on mine.

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 7:34 PM

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@floral dagger another question. Did you do an erase then put CircuitPython 2.0 in the board using the esptool?

floral dagger Sep 19, 2017, 7:34 PM

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I did not. I used the windows installer

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Should I try that?

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 7:36 PM

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@floral dagger or the windows flashing tool, whatever. Just as long as you do an erase and then flash 2.0.

solar whale Sep 19, 2017, 7:36 PM

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@floral dagger yes - it is always good to earse the flash before loading a new copy of CP. Good catch @formal plover

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 7:36 PM

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@solar whale thanks! Teamwork makes dreamwork!

floral dagger Sep 19, 2017, 7:37 PM

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Ok, I'll go through the tutorials on that. I'd just assumed the installer would do a wipe first. thanks @solar whale and @formal plover

solar whale Sep 19, 2017, 7:38 PM

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@floral dagger It doesn't - Not always necessry, but especially in the beginning it is better.

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when in doubt - erase and reflash 😉

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ef1787c Make all boards compile. - tannewt

solar whale Sep 19, 2017, 7:51 PM

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@floral dagger when you get a chance, please post a link to the tutorial you are using.

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floral dagger Sep 19, 2017, 8:27 PM

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@solar whale I had just assumed there would be one, but I can't seem to find a decent one. I think I just need to shelve this for now, nothing seems to be working. Thanks for your help.

solar whale Sep 19, 2017, 8:28 PM

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@floral dagger - don't give up - come back when you are ready. I'm sure we can make it work.

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 8:31 PM

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@floral dagger @solar whale well I'm home now... Haha looks like I'm too late

solar whale Sep 19, 2017, 8:31 PM

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@floral dagger - you can take a look at this https://learn.adafruit.com/building-and-running-micropython-on-the-esp8266/overview?view=all#flash-firmware - ask questions

Building and Running MicroPython on the ESP8266

How to compile and install MicroPython for the ESP8266 WiFi breakout!

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@formal plover I'm a failure. I was looking for a windows based tutorial and it is confusing.

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 8:33 PM

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So you can run CP directly on the ESP8266 or you can add the ESP to an Express board and have wifi on the Express board? I keep getting slightly confused trying to brain it.

solar whale Sep 19, 2017, 8:34 PM

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@idle owl there is a build for the esp8266. nothin else needed.

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 8:34 PM

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@solar whale Right, but if I wanted to do the rest of my project on an Express board, but wanted it to have wifi, how would I go about that?

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 8:34 PM

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@idle owl the ESP8266 is a non express board, no UF2 bootloader (drag and drop)

solar whale Sep 19, 2017, 8:35 PM

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be very nice to @slender iron and mabey he'll implement it 😉

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 8:35 PM

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@idle owl better off waiting for a esp8266 express

solar whale Sep 19, 2017, 8:35 PM

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real answer is there is no wifi suppor for express or M0 now.

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 8:35 PM

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So the only way to have wifi on a project is to run the whole thing from the ESP8266 then? I somehow thought you could add it to another board and use it for the wifi.

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Ok

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Noted.

solar whale Sep 19, 2017, 8:36 PM

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not yet. and not likely until the M4 boards are avaialbe

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 8:36 PM

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We're laying the foundation for when there is an express board with wifi

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 8:37 PM

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I see. So it's only a few months out.

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 8:37 PM

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Like @solar whale said, it'll be a while till one comes out.

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 8:37 PM

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Fair enough. I had an idea for a project that I can't do right away anyway, but it involved wireless.

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Shelved until it's ready then 😃

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Or at least the wireless part of it.

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 8:38 PM

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@idle owl maybe @slender iron can send you a esp8266 haha

solar whale Sep 19, 2017, 8:38 PM

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At this point the best you could do would be to transfer data via a serial connection from the express board to something else with wifi.... kludgey but possible.

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 8:39 PM

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@formal plover I have some stuff on the way already. And since I'm learning to write APIs and hopefully drivers, I'll have a bunch to work with. It's so exciting!

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 8:39 PM

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@solar whale the thing is that I don't think any of the libraries would work

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 8:39 PM

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This was a project that jumped into my head this morning. It can absolutely wait.

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I need to get the sensor for it to work first anyway, and fighting with that and wireless at the same time sounds like a chore.

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I was just in the process of writing out the project and what I might need while it was fresh, so I wanted to understand how the wireless worked as of now.

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@solar whale That's an interesting take though.

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 8:41 PM

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@idle owl I haven't documented any of my work so far. I will eventually for your viewing pleasure. Haha

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@idle owl maybe pop up on show and tell

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 8:42 PM

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@formal plover Yeah after trying to finish this learn guide for an already completed project, I've decide to assume that every project I do will need to be documented and start from the beginning.

solar whale Sep 19, 2017, 8:42 PM

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@formal plover I meant taht the express would know nothing of wifi - it would jsut ship data to anothe board that did. running Arduino or an esp8266 or anything.

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 8:42 PM

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@solar whale ah, gotcha!

solar whale Sep 19, 2017, 8:43 PM

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it there a better windows intro for CP on the ESP8266 tahtn the one I posted?

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 8:44 PM

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@solar whale I'll have to check. Making spaghetti right now. Lol

solar whale Sep 19, 2017, 8:44 PM

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NP. I needd to go off for a bit too.

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 8:45 PM

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thanks for the help @solar whale @formal plover and @idle owl

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 8:45 PM

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@slender iron Of course 😃 Thank you for all you do

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 8:48 PM

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You're welcome @slender iron!

drowsy geyser Sep 19, 2017, 8:50 PM

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Now that I have my order in I'll mention that the Feather M0 Express is back in stock. Get 'em while they last! blinka

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 8:50 PM

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lol, Just got the email.

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tannewt

[adafruit/circuitpython] Pull request opened: #258 Move to ASF4 and introduce SAMD51 support\.

This provides limited REPL support for both the M0 and M4 based on ASF4. It should work well enough for us to start collaborating on moving the implementations to ASF4.

drowsy geyser Sep 19, 2017, 8:52 PM

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Tonight's project: solder up some boards for the rocket flight computer, do some more programming, and figure out how to actually get the bundled libraries to work on the Circuit Playground Express.... It's ... non-obvious.

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Nothing like massive changes in that last commit there, @slender iron!

manic glacierBOT Sep 19, 2017, 8:54 PM

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tannewt

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #178: Update to ASF4 and add SAMD51 support\.

I'm going to close this in favor of separate issues to make it easier to assign different tasks.

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 8:54 PM

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😄

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I like to break it all and piece it back together

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expect a bunch of new issues in the next hour or so

drowsy geyser Sep 19, 2017, 8:55 PM

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The Lego approach. 😃

manic glacierBOT Sep 19, 2017, 8:55 PM

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tannewt

[adafruit/circuitpython] Issue closed: #178 Update to ASF4 and add SAMD51 support\.

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 8:55 PM

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@slender iron Getting closer though!

manic glacierBOT Sep 19, 2017, 8:56 PM

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tannewt

[adafruit/circuitpython] Issue opened: #259 Add \`busio\` support to atmel\-samd\.

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tannewt

[adafruit/circuitpython] Issue opened: #260 Add file system support including USB MSC for atmel\-samd\.

Depends on #259.

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tannewt

[adafruit/circuitpython] Issue opened: #261 Add \`time\` support to atmel\-samd\.

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tannewt

[adafruit/circuitpython] Issue opened: #262 Add \`analogio\` support to atmel\-samd\.

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tannewt

[adafruit/circuitpython] Issue opened: #263 Add \`audioio\` support to atmel\-samd\.

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tannewt

[adafruit/circuitpython] Issue opened: #264 Add \`neopixel\_write\` support to atmel\-samd\.

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tannewt

[adafruit/circuitpython] Issue opened: #265 Update \`pulseio\` for ASF4\.

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tannewt

[adafruit/circuitpython] Issue opened: #266 Update \`os\` for ASF4\.

Including true random number generator on M4.

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tannewt

[adafruit/circuitpython] Issue opened: #267 Update \`usb\_hid\` to ASF4\.

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 9:03 PM

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Ok so I still haven't gotten a straight answer about this: When you're connected to the live part of the REPL, it says "Press any key to enter the REPL". Is the live part of it called something else? Or is it all "the REPL" and it's just weird wording?

manic glacierBOT Sep 19, 2017, 9:03 PM

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tannewt

[adafruit/circuitpython] Issue opened: #268 Add \`touchio\` support to the M4\.

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 9:03 PM

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As in is the python prompt part of it called something different than the live feedback bit?

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 9:03 PM

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REPL is when you have >>>

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before that its just a serial connection

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 9:03 PM

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@slender iron THANK YOU. This has been driving me batty!

floral dagger Sep 19, 2017, 9:04 PM

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@solar whale that was the tutorial I used to begin with. I used the windows instructions for the windows flasher. I'm going through it again now, trying to do the esptool route, but the pyserial link provided is super confusing. The file it says I needs is not there, or at the very least hard for me to find.

solar whale Sep 19, 2017, 9:07 PM

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@floral dagger thanks - I was afraid of that. don't have a windows system so I can walk throught it all. I'll take a looka t taht link though.

floral dagger Sep 19, 2017, 9:08 PM

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thanks. The link is on this page https://learn.adafruit.com/building-and-running-micropython-on-the-esp8266/flash-firmware

Building and Running MicroPython on the ESP8266

How to compile and install MicroPython for the ESP8266 WiFi breakout!

solar whale Sep 19, 2017, 9:13 PM

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@floral dagger I agee - the pyserial part is very confusing and I will need time to sort it out. In the mea time do you want to try some tests on yor board as it is - just to see if we can learn anything?

floral dagger Sep 19, 2017, 9:15 PM

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thanks @solar whale I'll have to try that later. I'm about to grab a bite to eat and let my brain rest a bit. Thanks for the help.

solar whale Sep 19, 2017, 9:17 PM

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@floral dagger - no problem - I'm about to do the same. Just don't give up on it! It is confusing at first. We are here to help.

manic glacierBOT Sep 19, 2017, 9:19 PM

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tannewt

[adafruit/circuitpython] Issue opened: #269 Have drivers and docs for all FeatherWings and breakouts\.

First, lets track all FeatherWings and breakouts in this doc. Here are what the columns are:

FeatherWings

FeatherWing Name - Name from the Adafruit store
Store Link - Link to the product page
Learn Guide - Link to the product's learn guide
CircuitPython Driver 1 - Link to one related CircuitPython driver
CircuitPython Driver 2 - Link to another related CircuitPython d...

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meichr

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #245: SD Cards producing OSError 19

@tannewt I've done the above tests with the library-2.0.0 bundle from Sep. 15th and thought that it already contained the above update from Sep 9th. My error!
The pictured SanDisk sd card works with the Sep. 15th version and the above Sep. 9th version. The Transcend sd cards and the Samsung sd card work with the above Sep. 9th version, but not with the bundled Sep. 15th version.
![20170919_sdcards_working_with_circuitpython](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/26359454/30616108-6ecd38...

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 9:25 PM

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@floral dagger not like I don't mind helping you with the windows configuration, but I'm just curious if you have windows 10? You can run Ubuntu within windows 10 if you just search for Ubuntu in the windows store (it's free).

solar whale Sep 19, 2017, 9:29 PM

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@floral dagger @formal plover I found this and I think it can be helpful - it's abit out of date but should work. https://learn.adafruit.com/arduino-lesson-17-email-sending-movement-detector/installing-python-and-pyserial#installing-python-and-pyserial

Arduino Lesson 17. Email Sending Movement Detector

Use an Arduino to send an email, whenever movement is detected with a PIR sensor.

floral dagger Sep 19, 2017, 9:32 PM

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@solar whale and @formal plover thanks. I think I FINALLY got it. Got pyserial installed. Then reflashed per the instruction. It failed with the same error. Then found this commant to erase the flash.
esptool.py --port your_esp_port erase_flash
Seems to be working now. I get this:



Adafruit CircuitPython 2.0.0 on 2017-09-12; ESP module with ESP8266
>>>

and the setup seemed to run normally. it had me enter a password and restarted the board.

solar whale Sep 19, 2017, 9:32 PM

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great!

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 9:32 PM

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@floral dagger yassss!

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Great persistence @floral dagger!

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 9:33 PM

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@floral dagger Well done!

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 9:34 PM

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Now you need to get Ampy going and you'll be all set

floral dagger Sep 19, 2017, 9:35 PM

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lol are you TRYING to give mehigh blood pressure?

solar whale Sep 19, 2017, 9:35 PM

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@floral dagger you started by asking about import webrepl_setup - do you need or want to use the webrepl or are you ok with putty for now?

formal plover Sep 19, 2017, 9:35 PM

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@floral dagger Haha 😂

solar whale Sep 19, 2017, 9:36 PM

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@floral dagger - just curious - how did you install pyserial?

floral dagger Sep 19, 2017, 9:36 PM

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oh yeah. I got the webrepl setup. The step that was missing was erasing the flash like @formal plover said. That got everything set up and webrepl seems to be working now

manic glacierBOT Sep 19, 2017, 9:37 PM

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tannewt

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #205: Refine \`ustruct\` into \`struct\` in shared\-bindings and shared\-module\.

Two examples of commits that do a similar thing are: https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/commit/a0058e67124b93eb1c8c9c610f823396a7ff7e68
https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/commit/778e975936b9e892c4f1b85ce73462a0ce6d36d2

Most of the work is restructuring the code and verifying the API is a strict subset of CPython's struct.

If you have any questions, please visit the #circuitpython channel on Discord.

floral dagger Sep 19, 2017, 9:37 PM

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@solar whale I downloaded the tar,gz, extracted it, then used the command line to get to the directory and ran the setup.py script

solar whale Sep 19, 2017, 9:38 PM

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@floral dagger - excellent! If you want to try ampy tkae a look at https://learn.adafruit.com/micropython-basics-load-files-and-run-code/install-ampy - you will need it to load files to your board - or you can use webrepl but in the long run ampy is a necessary tool.

MicroPython Basics: Load Files & Run Code

Learn a simple workflow for developing code on a MicroPython board.

floral dagger Sep 19, 2017, 9:38 PM

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Seems simple now, but being unfamiliar with that, it was very confusing to find the rght file to dl

manic glacierBOT Sep 19, 2017, 9:38 PM

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tannewt

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #204: Move \`math\` into shared\-bindings and shared\-module\.

Two examples of commits that do a similar thing are: https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/commit/a0058e67124b93eb1c8c9c610f823396a7ff7e68
https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/commit/778e975936b9e892c4f1b85ce73462a0ce6d36d2

Most of the work is restructuring the code and verifying the API is a strict subset of CPython's struct. Do NOT copy documentation from CPython.

If you have any questions, please visit the #circuitpython channe...

solar whale Sep 19, 2017, 9:39 PM

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@floral dagger - thanks - did you already have python3 intalled on your computer - assuming you install the latest pyserial?

floral dagger Sep 19, 2017, 9:40 PM

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I didn't but that installation was pretty straightforward.

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One thing to note is tht adding "python" to the path variables in windows is not checked b default

solar whale Sep 19, 2017, 9:41 PM

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@floral dagger - Great! - glad you got it all going - have fun!

manic glacierBOT Sep 19, 2017, 9:50 PM

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tannewt

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on pull request #244: \[WIP\] Streamline docbuild

Beginners please check out the newest version of these docs and provide feedback here!

manic glacierBOT Sep 19, 2017, 10:14 PM

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tannewt

[adafruit/circuitpython] Issue opened: #270 Help test cutting edge builds\!

Testing new software builds is one of the easiest ways to get started helping CircuitPython development.

First, find an existing project of yours that works with the latest stable release of CircuitPython. Verify that it all still works as you've set it up.

Next, load a cutting edge build from here.

Now, see if your project works as it did before. If it doesn't...

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tannewt

[adafruit/circuitpython] Issue opened: #271 Help answer questions\!

Although you consider yourself a CircuitPython beginner, its likely you already know something that other folks do not! Please share that knowledge!

There are a few places where people post questions and could use a helpful answer.

If cannot answer a question yourself and its been a few ...

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 10:24 PM

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Just posted a blog post encouraging people to help with CircuitPython! https://blog.adafruit.com/2017/09/19/circuitpython-3-0-plans/

Adafruit Industries - Makers, hackers, artists, designers and engineers!

Scott

CircuitPython 3.0 Plans

With 2.0.0 out the door, its time to start work on CircuitPython 3.0.0. Each major release I like to have a theme to guide the primary goals of the release. 2.0.0 was all about storage because it e…

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 10:27 PM

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@slender iron That's great!

manic glacierBOT Sep 19, 2017, 10:29 PM

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tannewt

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #245: SD Cards producing OSError 19

Wups, looks like I forgot to request a review from @dhalbert on it! The fix is here: https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_SD/pull/1

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 10:30 PM

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@slender iron Everything and everyone being so accessible is what kept me moving forward in the community when I was just beginning. It's excellent that we're continuing to make it even easier.

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 10:30 PM

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thanks @idle owl!

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Yay!

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I already posted this right? https://rakudo.party/post/On-Troll-Hugging-Hole-Digging-and-Improving-Open-Source-Communities

idle owl Sep 19, 2017, 10:31 PM

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Yep!

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 10:34 PM

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k, coding time

drowsy geyser Sep 19, 2017, 10:35 PM

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Have fun! I still have a bit of work before it's solder-and-code time.

slender iron Sep 19, 2017, 10:35 PM

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😃

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gotta get time.sleep() going so I can blinky it up.

manic glacierBOT Sep 19, 2017, 10:58 PM

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meichr

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #245: SD Cards producing OSError 19

But I forgot to thank you for the fixes :-) .

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jerryneedell

[adafruit/circuitpython] Fork created: jerryneedell/circuitpython

manic glacierBOT Sep 19, 2017, 11:57 PM

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jerryneedell

[adafruit/circuitpython] Pull request opened: #272 Add Analog Pin aliases to trinket\_m0 pins\.c

modified trinket_m0/pins.c to include pin aliases for A1,A2,A3,A4

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jerryneedell

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #256: trinket\_m0 pins\.c file does not define A1,A2,A3,A4

Submitted pull request. I hope I did it correctly. Let me know if I needed to do something else.

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jerryneedell

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #256: trinket\_m0 pins\.c file does not define A1,A2,A3,A4

I did not mess with makefile. Still 187 bytes free!

umbral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 12:19 AM

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Question: is the periodic spurious "KeyboardInterrupt: soft reboot" to be expected?

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 12:20 AM

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From the serial connection?

umbral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 12:21 AM

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I see it printed over the usb/serial

slender iron Sep 20, 2017, 12:22 AM

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@umbral dagger thats the auto-reload kicking in

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 12:22 AM

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What @slender iron said

umbral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 12:22 AM

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Why is that happening when I haven't changed any files?

slender iron Sep 20, 2017, 12:22 AM

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background mass storage stuff the OS does

umbral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 12:23 AM

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OK. so it won't happen "in the wild"?

slender iron Sep 20, 2017, 12:23 AM

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off usb it shouldn't

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in the samd module you can turn it off

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if it bothers you

umbral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 12:24 AM

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Just wanted to make sure it wasn't some random glitch that woudl restart main.py once it's deployed & on battery.

slender iron Sep 20, 2017, 12:25 AM

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shouldn't 😃

manic glacierBOT Sep 20, 2017, 1:36 AM

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dhalbert

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #193: Enable MICROPY\_PY\_ARRAY\_SLICE\_ASSIGN on SAMD21

Turning on MICROPY_PY_ARRAY_SLICE_ASSIGN takes something like 384 to 576 bytes to include. I got different measurements based on trying to remove it from the Express build or add it to the non-Express build.

tawdry hatch Sep 20, 2017, 3:56 AM

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Any idea why flashing circuitpython to a feather huzzah would result in the blue LED blinking rapidly and serial connection cycling through garbage as though it's in some kind of reboot loop?

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 4:08 AM

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@tawdry hatch I'm not sure, I haven't worked with the ESP8266. @solar whale and @formal plover are our ESP8266 experienced helpers. I would check in again tomorrow when they're around.

manic glacierBOT Sep 20, 2017, 4:16 AM

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dmpayton

[adafruit/circuitpython] New star added

manic glacierBOT Sep 20, 2017, 4:36 AM

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tannewt

[adafruit/circuitpython] Pull request closed: #272 Add Analog Pin aliases to trinket\_m0 pins\.c

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tannewt

[circuitpython:master] 1 new commit

3ad01dd Add Ananlog Pin aliases to trinket_m0 pins.c - jerryneedell

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 4:36 AM

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@slender iron I have ugly code working for tap detection on x, y and z!

slender iron Sep 20, 2017, 4:37 AM

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nice! can you get the orientation too?

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 4:38 AM

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Not yet. I tore apart the fidget spinner that Tony did, and added to it to get the tap detection on all three. I haven't found an example yet with orientation. Also I thought that circuit.tap, circuit.freefall and circuit.gyroscope(or something) should be their own things.

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I'm still trying to make sense of the library written for it to actually write my own code from scratch to use it.

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Not really having luck. I thought I'd get the tap stuff done first since I managed to get that working. I'll have a lot of questions really soon. 😃

drowsy geyser Sep 20, 2017, 4:48 AM

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@idle owl Standing by for questions. 😃

slender iron Sep 20, 2017, 4:50 AM

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tap and freefall sound awesome!

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 4:53 AM

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😃

marble talon Sep 20, 2017, 6:14 AM

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I don't suppose there's NeopixelDMA for CircuitPython yet?

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 6:41 AM

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@WisdomWolf#3691 try erasing the flash and re flashing circuitpython. See https://docs.micropython.org/en/latest/esp8266/esp8266/tutorial/intro.html if you are using esptool to flash.

drowsy geyser Sep 20, 2017, 8:32 AM

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Aaargh! I didn't think I was stupid, but I can't make NeoPixels work on a Circuit Playground Express running latest CircuitPython build. I installed the latest bundle (as of a few minutes ago). I copied the Adafruit_CircuitPython_Bundle/libraries/drivers/neopixel to the Circuit Playground Express /lib folder, did the "import neopixel", and when I try "pixels = neopixel.NeoPixel(board.NEOPIXEL, 10)" it throws AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'NeoPixel'

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BTW, I'm following guides and README.md files from the learning system and GitHub, respectively, trying to make this work. I feel really bad for the parents trying to help their kids get this to work!

drowsy geyser Sep 20, 2017, 8:52 AM

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Also BTW, here's the process I've followed so far (from my OneNote page that I'm writing so I can build a "one stop shop" guide for CircuitPython)....

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And I'm using Windows10. The "sudo" commands are needed because I've broken my SSH authentication to GitHub. 😃

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Annnnnd ... fixed my SSH authentication to GitHub (new laptop, so ssh-keygen and install .pub on GitHub).

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Random thought - is there a conflict between the neopixel driver library from the Bundled collection and the built-in low-level neopixel library?

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 9:18 AM

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@drowsy geyser when you clone the bundle like that it is so you can then build the /lib yourself. The prebuilt /lib is in the .zip file under releases. Give that a try.

drowsy geyser Sep 20, 2017, 9:20 AM

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Really? In every other Adafruit GitHub repo it doesn't matter if you clone the repo or download a zip. Since I use the Bash environment on Windows 10, it's just a lot easier to type "git clone ...." so I got used to doing that. I'll give it a shot!

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Bingo. That was it.

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Thank you, @solar whale . IMO, though, it's a bad practice to break an established workflow without significant documentation and warnings.

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 9:30 AM

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Not quite clear why it did not work the other way, but glad it is OK now...

drowsy geyser Sep 20, 2017, 9:36 AM

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I didn't go through the full build process. I'm going to do that, take notes, and test the full library build, too.

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This is going to be important information for my CircuitPython guides! 😉 I really do appreciate the help, @solar whale ! I apologize if I came across as a bit cranky.

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Ahhhh, I think the right way to fix this is to have the guides point to the _Bundled releases link instead of master - that way the user following the link in the guide will only be presented with the .mpy and .Zip files....

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 9:54 AM

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@drowsy geyser glad to help. Also glad you are updating the docs.

drowsy geyser Sep 20, 2017, 9:56 AM

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I submitted feedback for TonyD so he can update his guide. He's out of position right now so it might be a while before he can make the change. At least you put me on exactly the right track!

formal plover Sep 20, 2017, 10:30 AM

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@tawdry hatch yeah like @solar whale said. Gotta do an erase first with the esptool or the windows esp flasher.

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 11:10 AM

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@formal plover is there an another windows flasher tool besides nodemcu-flash?

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Not easy to erase with nodemcu tool

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The language bot is a bit picky!

formal plover Sep 20, 2017, 12:03 PM

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@solar whale sure is

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I found it awhile back... Hope I bookmarked it

formal plover Sep 20, 2017, 12:20 PM

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@solar whale womp womp... Lol the one I had bookmarked was the NodeMCU one. Espressif has a flasher tool for windows, but I have no idea what it looks like. I'm at work, so I can't download it.

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 12:22 PM

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@formal plover no problem. It looks like it will work, but to erase you have to upload a "blank" image and it was not clear to me where one could find the blank image file to load. I may have just missed something. esptool is much easier to use! But not trivial to install under windows...

formal plover Sep 20, 2017, 12:23 PM

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@solar whale that's why I would recommend using the Ubuntu VM windows 10 has in the store.

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 12:25 PM

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@formal plover I'm all for promoting linux but that may be intimidating for some.

formal plover Sep 20, 2017, 12:28 PM

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@solar whale perhaps, but Ubuntu is new Linux user friendly. Windows 10 makes it run like an app. You're not actually configuring a VM. https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/install_guide

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 12:31 PM

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Looks pretty slick! For a long time I did my Micropython/CircuitPython on my mac via vagrant (ubuntu vm) it worked well. This looks like a nice tool for windows10.

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 12:31 PM

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@solar whale I never got around to trying it, but the site here lists a blank flash at the bottom of the page http://www.pratikpanda.com/completely-format-erase-esp8266-flash-memory/

Pratik Panda

pratik

Completely erase ESP8266 flash memory

Completely format or erase ESP8266 flash memory. You can erase the ESP-12 flash using this 1MB blank.bin file to remove all previous information from flash.

formal plover Sep 20, 2017, 12:31 PM

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@solar whale slick indeed!

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 12:33 PM

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@floral dagger thanks! that is what I was looking for! just never went to the bottom of the page! Nice to know where it is for future reference.

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 12:52 PM

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@floral dagger Somehow I thought the file was more than just a string of 0x100000 0xff's. Combinig it 4 times makes a nice 4Mbyte file as well. I learned something new today and its still early 😉

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 1:07 PM

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@solar whale huh...I don't know what I expected either, but I guess that makes sense.

tulip sleet Sep 20, 2017, 1:23 PM

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@drowsy geyser The neopixel module is actually bult in to the CPX firmware in 2.0.0. It's an "internal frozen module". So you don't need it to be in /lib, and there doesn't even need to be a /lib. Just import it and it will be there. We want to build in certain Python-based library modules as long as there's still room in the firmware. For instance, the Circuit Playground-specific library @idle owl is working on will go in there as well.

You'll still be able to add a newer version to supersede the builtin one. If you look at sys.path, you'll see ".frozen" at the end, which is where all the builtin modules are. But anything earlier in the path will get loaded first.

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This should all be documented! There's no CPX-specific general Learn Guide yet, and it would go in there.

drowsy geyser Sep 20, 2017, 1:26 PM

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Well, I'm not sure how I'm going to structure the guides, but I have extensive notes on CPX to start with!

tulip sleet Sep 20, 2017, 1:30 PM

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@solar whale @formal plover I used WSL on Windows 10 for some time for development. It worked well - the main issue is that disk I/O is slow, and so a build of CPy would take maybe as much as four times longer. Also, certain tty syscalls are missing right now, so you can't use screen or minicom from WSL yet. But it really is Ubuntu, minus the actual OS. Lots of things work very well. It's nice to be able to use Linux commands to manipulate or look at the Windows file system. It wrote it up here a few months ago: https://forums.adafruit.com/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=112975

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 1:33 PM

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@tulip sleet So that's where I saw it before 😉 thanks for the reminder and the detatiled writeup. Now I recall seeing that when you first posted it.

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 1:51 PM

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I hate to keep bugging you all, but I'm right back to square one. I tried reflashing, but no good. Looking through the source code, it looks like there is trouble reading boot.py. Looking up this error:

OSError: [Errno 2] ENOENT

It appears to refer to a file missing. line 48 of webrepl_setup.py refers to boot.py with this line:
with open(RC) as f:

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I say file error because googling the ENOENT error comes up wth results from micropython forums indicating that

formal plover Sep 20, 2017, 1:56 PM

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@floral dagger remove the .py

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 1:57 PM

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@formal plover what do you mean?

formal plover Sep 20, 2017, 1:57 PM

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Are you trying to setup webrepl?

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 1:57 PM

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yes. This is the line I enter import webrepl_setup

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am I maybe using the wrong bin file? It's for huzzah feather, and I am using the old huzzah. It was working yesterday though.

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 2:06 PM

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@floral dagger - so it did work yesterday - when you reflashed, did you also erase it first?

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the huzzah breakout uses the same image - I have both.

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 2:09 PM

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Yeah t was working fine. I did a blink sketch, and messed aroundwith it watching the webrepl page update the putty connection and vice versa. Then I installed Ampy and tried the test.py thing, and it worked. So I tried creating a folder (testdir), and it seemed to work, but I couldn't remove it. I erased the FW, and reflashed it. Now I don't get the adafruit "press any button" message anymore (it goes straight to REPL), and it won't set up WEBREPL

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 2:12 PM

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odd - if you open a putty terminal and then press RESET what do you see - should be some gibberish then dome outpout as it boots.

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 2:13 PM

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it gets the gibberish, but once the device closes the COM port it disconnects

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 2:16 PM

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can you do an ampy get boot.py and post the contents of boot.py

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 2:18 PM

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I did last night, but now I get RuntimeError: No such file: boot.py to be fair though, running ampy --port COM11 ls returns a permission denied error

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 2:20 PM

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Ah - interesting - your don't have putty still connceted do you. Cant do putty and ampoy at the same time.

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 2:20 PM

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No. I don't

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 2:22 PM

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use putty and go into the repl then enter ```
import os
os.listdir()

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 2:25 PM

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'\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00.\x00\x00\x00' over and over in an array type of format

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 2:26 PM

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hmmm - I would suggest you erase and reflash one more time. Are you using esptool now?

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 2:27 PM

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yeah. I'll do it again

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 2:27 PM

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you are using huzzah brakout - so you do the gpio0 thing, correct?

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 2:28 PM

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using a USB/tty adapter

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close putty
enable flash mode with button presses on huzzah
enter esptool.py --port COM11 erase_flash

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 2:29 PM

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yes - then also do the button press before loading the image.

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 2:31 PM

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flash erased
put esp back into flash mode
enter esptool.py --port COM11 --baud 460800 write_flash --flash_size=detect 0 C:\Path\to\bin\esp8266-20170823-v1.9.2.bin

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flash done

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 2:32 PM

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oh - thais is micropython, not circuoitpython - should still work but not wha tI expected.

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 2:32 PM

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yeah that was an older one....I was trying 2.0 before. one sec

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esptool.py --port COM11 --baud 460800 write_flash --flash_size=detect 0 C:\Path\To\bin\adafruit-circuitpython-feather_huzzah-2.0.0.bin

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 2:33 PM

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but erase agin first??

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 2:34 PM

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yes.....I copied the things I have been trying into a text file because I got tired of manually editing in COM11 and paths each time. I just copied the wrong line from that file

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 2:34 PM

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ok - does it still fail?

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 2:34 PM

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yeah,flashes fine

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Wrote 594300 bytes (387025 compressed) at 0x00000000 in 9.7 seconds (effective 491.3 kbit/s)...
Hash of data verified.

Leaving...
Hard resetting...```

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 2:35 PM

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@drowsy geyser Did you get it sorted?

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 2:36 PM

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@floral dagger any improvement - or still not working?

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 2:36 PM

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still same thing

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Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
  File "webrepl_setup.py", line 111, in <module>
  File "webrepl_setup.py", line 79, in main
  File "webrepl_setup.py", line 48, in get_daemon_status
OSError: [Errno 1] EPERM

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ok, this weird...was getting this message The FAT filesystem starting at sector 153 with size 866 sectors appears to be corrupted. If you had important data there, you may want to make a flash snapshot to try to recover it. Otherwise, perform factory reprogramming of MicroPython firmware (completely erase flash, followed by firmware programming).
hit ctrl+c to copy it, and it ended the loop. Now I get the adafruit text prompt....but still get the error

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 2:42 PM

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Very strange - I will try to reporduce this this evening when I get home. I have ths same board -, but it looks like the flash is getting corrupted. Just don't see how.

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 2:44 PM

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ok....reflashing got rid of that error, but back to square one. Thanks @solar whale I guess I'll keep plugging away at it off and on. Please let me know if you find anything.

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the FAT filesystem error

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 2:46 PM

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jsut curious if you have had this board a long time and written to it many many times. The flash can "wear-out" .. but I would expect it to fail to program.

drowsy geyser Sep 20, 2017, 2:47 PM

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@idle owl I did, with a lot of help from @solar whale

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 2:48 PM

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I have had it a while, but haven't really written to it much. Maybe 100 times before all this if I am very generous with the estimate

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 2:48 PM

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@drowsy geyser Ok. It really should have worked without building the library. I don't think I quite got the train of things you suggested updating in docs, but I wanted to make sure you'd at least gotten it figured out.

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 2:48 PM

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taht "should" be fine.

drowsy geyser Sep 20, 2017, 2:49 PM

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Thank you, @idle owl ! I got it sorted.

manic glacierBOT Sep 20, 2017, 2:54 PM

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deshipu

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #231: 'getch'

Shouldn't read() be non-blocking, returning an empty string if there is nothing in the buffer? I think it works that way for the sockets and the serial — returning at most n characters.

manic glacierBOT Sep 20, 2017, 3:26 PM

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dhalbert

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #231: 'getch'

Just tried this: sys.stdin.read() in CPython 3.5 will read until EOF (ctrl-D); it's blocking. Reading a single character, sys.stdin.read(1) hangs until one character is typed (and it buffers by line, so it waits for a newline as well) or EOF is encountered.

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 3:34 PM

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@tulip sleet after a pull request has been accepted, should I delete my fork on github?

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 3:36 PM

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@solar whale Good question

drowsy geyser Sep 20, 2017, 3:36 PM

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Ah, drat. The CCS811 library/example code still throws a "lock required" error....

tulip sleet Sep 20, 2017, 3:36 PM

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@solar whale no need to delete your fork. We usually create a branch on the fork for a particular set of changes, and then delete the branch when it's been accepted. You need to keep the fork up to date: see here: https://help.github.com/articles/syncing-a-fork/

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 3:37 PM

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@tulip sleet Ah so delete the branch once it's accepted?

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And thank you for the link

tulip sleet Sep 20, 2017, 3:38 PM

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So I do all my work on my fork, and generate pull requests from there. I update it as necessary. @idle owl, yes I delete the branch unless I'm going to use it again. I have branches like "issue_234_fix_analogio", so the name gets stale.

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 3:39 PM

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Ah makes sense. I was doing the making branches and working from them correctly, I just didn't know the workflow after making the pull request.

tulip sleet Sep 20, 2017, 3:39 PM

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There are some details about deleting the branch locally and remotely, and pushing and pulling with "pruning" to get the branches to sync up.

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 3:39 PM

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@tulip sleet OK , thanks - I did create a branch. I'll try to foloow the guide.

tulip sleet Sep 20, 2017, 3:40 PM

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I think Scott wants to write a guide to explain the workflow exactly. He wrote one on making a library but this is a little different.

drowsy geyser Sep 20, 2017, 3:42 PM

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@tulip sleet He and I talked about that last weekend. I think it's a great idea. I'm also going to be writing a "CircuitPython for raw beginners" guide (or series of guides) that walks people through all the details.

tulip sleet Sep 20, 2017, 3:42 PM

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@drowsy geyser sounds great!

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 3:42 PM

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@drowsy geyser Good to know! I had the idea to do something similar, but I'm already writing up some stuff and it would have taken me a while to get to it.

drowsy geyser Sep 20, 2017, 3:45 PM

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I've had a number of people ask for it, including a few at the Maker Faire last weekend.

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 3:46 PM

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I'm starting a friend who is a raw beginner, probably this evening. She bought the Circuit Playground Express board and she's never done any electronics or programming. We were talking about it before, when I was trying to decide whether to start her on MakeCode or not. I'm still leaning that way.

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But that's the kind of thing where if we did want to start with CircuitPython, there's not really a good place to start yet.

drowsy geyser Sep 20, 2017, 3:48 PM

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@idle owl Agreed. That's kind of why I wanted to do a beginner's guide. And there have been things that have tripped me up that aren't well documented, which is prompting me to write.

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 3:49 PM

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@drowsy geyser I'm terrible with documenting as I go, or at least I have been so far. I'm trying to be active about changing that because I know I'll want to do guides about a lot of it.

drowsy geyser Sep 20, 2017, 3:50 PM

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Me, too!!! I've started keeping everything in OneNote in the cloud so I can keep the information up to date.

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I put my high power rocket stuff in a separate notebook so I can share it with people.

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 3:50 PM

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Good idea

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Also a good idea!

formal plover Sep 20, 2017, 3:51 PM

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@drowsy geyser is 💯 blinka

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Sorry you are running into so many issues @floral dagger

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I didn't realize you were using the breakout and not the Feather HUZZAH

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@idle owl is also 💯

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😃

drowsy geyser Sep 20, 2017, 3:54 PM

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Thank you, sir!

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 3:54 PM

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Thank you, @formal plover !

formal plover Sep 20, 2017, 3:54 PM

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@drowsy geyser you're welcome!

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@idle owl you're welcome!

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 3:55 PM

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@formal plover I wish I had some better ideas for @floral dagger. Really puzzled. As I told him, I can try to reproduce it later, but I have not seen that kind of behavior. There was an ussue with the Huzzah breakout vs the feather when CP first began but it seemd to be fixed. I need ot go back and look at it. I don't think it is relevant.

formal plover Sep 20, 2017, 3:56 PM

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@solar whale hmm yes, it is a puzzling issue. The only other variable is what he's using to flash

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 3:57 PM

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I don't have a windows system so I can't reproduce that, but if it falshes and verifies, it should be OK

formal plover Sep 20, 2017, 3:58 PM

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@solar whale should is a dangerous word Haha.

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 3:58 PM

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I'm surprized the bot did not yell at me 😉

formal plover Sep 20, 2017, 3:58 PM

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@solar whale windows creator update totally borked my dual boot configuration I had with Linux. So I don't have windows right now either

manic glacierBOT Sep 20, 2017, 4:01 PM

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deshipu

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #231: 'getch'

Yes, but that's not consistent with other stream-like interfaces.

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tdicola

[adafruit/circuitpython] Issue opened: #273 atmel\-samd: Erratic I2C scanning behavior with nothing connected

I noticed an interesting thing on a feather M0 express with nothing attached, if you scan for I2C devices you actually get random results. It's not necessarily a bug in CircuitPython but something worth noting that might trip folks up. Here's an example of scanning with nothing connected:

>>> import busio
>>> import board
>>> i2c = busio.I2C(board.SCL, board.SDA)
>>> while not i2c.try_lock():
...     pass
... 
>>> i2c.scan()
[65, 102]
>>> i2c.scan()
[33, 71]
>>> i2c.scan()
...

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 4:08 PM

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@drowsy geyser I tried my CCS811 a few days agos and did not get any errors regarding the i2c lock.

manic glacierBOT Sep 20, 2017, 4:09 PM

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dhalbert

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #231: 'getch'

I think we want to make the behavior consistent with CPython. Do you mean other stream-like interfaces in Python or in general? It's a file-like interface, where the reads might be really slow, because the device (the human) is slow to supply characters. I tried to find some asyncio examples for stdin, but I didn't see anything right away.

sick creek Sep 20, 2017, 4:15 PM

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@formal plover now you get WSL to windows 10

formal plover Sep 20, 2017, 4:18 PM

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@sick creek do I understand it now? Yes. I didn't realize it was just a terminal only type getup.

sick creek Sep 20, 2017, 4:20 PM

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the Linux terminals can be get from windows store

formal plover Sep 20, 2017, 4:20 PM

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Yes, that's correct

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OpenSUSE and Ubuntu

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Oh, and Fedora

sick creek Sep 20, 2017, 4:24 PM

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suse enterpise as well

formal plover Sep 20, 2017, 4:27 PM

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Yup yup!

slender iron Sep 20, 2017, 4:44 PM

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@marble talon nope, no neopixel dma yet

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@drowsy geyser that error can happen when you put a driver in a folder. /lib/neopixel/neopixel.py imports differently from /lib/neopixel.py because folder are packages in Python

drowsy geyser Sep 20, 2017, 4:46 PM

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@slender iron It was that I cloned the repo (which you do when building the libraries) rather than downloading the Zip file from the "releases" page.

slender iron Sep 20, 2017, 4:46 PM

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@floral dagger you may be hitting the FS issue because it may not be compatible (where its located) between MicroPython and CircuitPython. I don't test one's ability to switch between the two.

drowsy geyser Sep 20, 2017, 4:46 PM

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Cloning no work.

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 4:46 PM

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@drowsy geyser Ahh, I hadn't sorted what happened. That makes sense.

slender iron Sep 20, 2017, 4:47 PM

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right, and that structures them differently than the bundle

sick creek Sep 20, 2017, 4:49 PM

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Fork and spoon and knife the tools you need 😄

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 4:50 PM

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@slender iron @tulip sleet I had not been follwing the changes and was caught off guard by the change to build-bundles - it works well - building 1.0.0 and 2.0.0 bundles.

sick creek Sep 20, 2017, 4:50 PM

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@slender iron bundle and not bundle have foldered differently?

slender iron Sep 20, 2017, 4:51 PM

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yeah @sick creek because the pre-bundled version uses git submodules

manic glacierBOT Sep 20, 2017, 4:51 PM

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deshipu

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #231: 'getch'

Looking at the documentation at https://docs.python.org/3/library/io.html I can see there is a whole zoo of different behaviors, depending on what the object on which you call read() is and how it was created, and also what options were used. Sometimes it will block, sometimes it will return 0 bytes, and sometimes it will raise an exception.

It seems that there is a way to switch the stdio into a non-blocking mode, at least on Linux, using non-standard terminal libraries: https://stack...

tulip sleet Sep 20, 2017, 4:52 PM

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@solar whale Yes - I tried to automate everything where I made a mistake when building the bundle. 😁

manic glacierBOT Sep 20, 2017, 5:22 PM

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ladyada

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #231: 'getch'

there's nothing in 'standard' python that works on all OS's - windows uses a DLL and mscvt or whatnot - we have to do something custom :)

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 6:06 PM

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@slender iron I haven't really been switching back and forth. After several failed attempts at getting CP working again I tried MP just to see. I copied the wrong command from my file when typing.
What's weird is I can access the REPL, and run code that interacts with the GPIO through that. Uploading through the arduino IDE works fine too. I think next I'm going to try the nodemcu/lua interface to see if I can access the filesystem through that.
Is there a more appropriate place for my issues? I feel like I've eaten up far too much of this channels bandwidth as it is.

formal plover Sep 20, 2017, 6:10 PM

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@floral dagger if it's CircuitPython related, you can keep it here. We certainly don't mind helping! If you run Arduino or Lua on the board (long-term) and have questions, just direct them at the #help-with-projects channel. :)

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 6:13 PM

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Ok, groovy. I'm just trying the other two to verify that flashing works, and the board operates. I remember way back when, lua had a file system access that I just want to test so I can see if accessing a file system will still work on this breakout. I want to use Circuit Python ultimately

formal plover Sep 20, 2017, 6:14 PM

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@floral dagger ah gotcha. Well I'm glad you're still going to try CircuitPython in the end! blinka

slender iron Sep 20, 2017, 6:20 PM

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@floral dagger here is fine. chat as much as you need to get going 😃

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 6:20 PM

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@floral dagger @formal plover I found my notes on the early issue with the Huzzah Breakout and Feather. It had to do with the RX pin on the breakout so you could see outpout but not send input. Tah was fixed and clearly is not the problem here. Nice testing Brad . I'll be intersted to see if I can reproduce it.

formal plover Sep 20, 2017, 6:44 PM

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@solar whale hmm yeah, I just want it sorted out so we can get another ESP8266 companion. Hahahahaha

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Well and because I sincerely want his problem solved as well.

manic glacierBOT Sep 20, 2017, 8:17 PM

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tannewt

[adafruit/circuitpython] Pull request opened: #274 Update \`time\` to use SysTick

This doesn't actually use ASF4 at all but enables it again. This depends on #258

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tannewt

[adafruit/circuitpython] New comment on issue #273: atmel\-samd: Erratic I2C scanning behavior with nothing connected

Good point @tdicola. We could also fix it by scanning "found" addresses a second or third time before adding them to the list.

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 8:31 PM

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@floral dagger @formal plover here si s aclean install on a Huzzah breakout```
jerryneedell@Ubuntu-Macmini:~/Downloads$ esptool.py --port /dev/ttyUSB0 --baud 460800 erase_flash
esptool.py v2.1
Connecting....
Detecting chip type... ESP8266
Chip is ESP8266
Uploading stub...
Running stub...
Stub running...
Changing baud rate to 460800
Changed.
Erasing flash (this may take a while)...
Chip erase completed successfully in 8.5s
Hard resetting...
jerryneedell@Ubuntu-Macmini:~/Downloads$ esptool.py --port /dev/ttyUSB0 --baud 460800 write_flash --flash_size=detect 0 adafruit-circuitpython-feather_huzzah-2.0.0
adafruit-circuitpython-feather_huzzah-2.0.0-beta.1.bin
jerryneedell@Ubuntu-Macmini:~/Downloads$ esptool.py --port /dev/ttyUSB0 --baud 460800 write_flash --flash_size=detect 0 adafruit-circuitpython-feather_huzzah-2.0.0.bin
esptool.py v2.1
Connecting....
Detecting chip type... ESP8266
Chip is ESP8266
Uploading stub...
Running stub...
Stub running...
Changing baud rate to 460800
Changed.
Configuring flash size...
Auto-detected Flash size: 4MB
Flash params set to 0x0040
Compressed 594300 bytes to 387025...
Wrote 594300 bytes (387025 compressed) at 0x00000000 in 9.0 seconds (effective 530.7 kbit/s)...
Hash of data verified.
Leaving...
Hard resetting...

boot.py output:
WebREPL daemon started on ws://192.168.4.1:8266
Started webrepl in normal mode

Press any key to enter the REPL. Use CTRL-D to soft reset.

Adafruit CircuitPython 2.0.0 on 2017-09-12; ESP module with ESP8266

import os
os.listdir()
['boot.py', 'webrepl_cfg.py']

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I removed the gibberish after the reboot but I was abble to run ```
import webrepl_setup

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I can also access the board via ampy

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at this point I suspect the @floral dagger has a board with failing flash or there is something funky with the windows communication. I am puzzled by his ampy problems.

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Does anyone have any ideas for additional troubleshooting? The fact that os.listdir() fails makes me suspect the filesystem on the board.

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 8:40 PM

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@solar whale It all looks very similar. mine is just not writing the filesstem for some reason. I am manually able to create files both with ampy and f.write if I write the flash at 115200 baud, and os.listdir() will see them. I just can't write anything to those files

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 8:42 PM

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but on a clean install you dont see boot.py - or ever?

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 8:44 PM

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nope, just this

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 8:45 PM

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try os.listdir("/")

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 8:45 PM

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same

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 8:46 PM

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so just to confirm ``` erase flase
load image
enter relp
import os
os.listdir()

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 8:47 PM

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yes

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 8:47 PM

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also on mine I have to do a RESET after I load the image

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Performing initial setup
bcn 0
del if1
usl
add if1
#5 ets_task(4020edc0, 29, 3fff9178, 10)
dhcp server start:(ip:192.168.4.1,mask:255.255.255.0,gw:192.168.4.1)
bcn 100
boot.py output:


Press any key to enter the REPL. Use CTRL-D to soft reset.


Adafruit CircuitPython 2.0.0 on 2017-09-12; ESP module with ESP8266
>>> import os
>>> os.listdir()
['boot.py']
>>>

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 8:48 PM

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Tried it by hitting the reset button, actually unplugging it and plugging it back in

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 8:49 PM

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that is waht I see after RESET in my terminal window - what do you see in putty if you connect and RESET - does it still disconnect?

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 8:49 PM

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a popup saying error communicating. On windows it terminates the connection when the device is removed

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I just changed that setting. I get this ```
Adafruit CircuitPython 2.0.0 on 2017-09-12; ESP module with ESP8266

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 8:51 PM

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one more config question - waht cable are you using is it the adafruit part 954 or some otehr cable. do you power it via the cable or some other source.

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ok but can you atya in putty and press the RESET button -

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 8:52 PM

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now i can, yes

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 8:52 PM

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waht do you see?

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on mine after a bunch of junk```boot.py output:

Press any key to enter the REPL. Use CTRL-D to soft reset.

Adafruit CircuitPython 2.0.0 on 2017-09-12; ESP module with ESP8266

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but on first RESET after erase and install I saw: ```
Performing initial setup
bcn 0
del if1
usl
add if1
#5 ets_task(4020edc0, 29, 3fff9178, 10)
dhcp server start:(ip:192.168.4.1,mask:255.255.255.0,gw:192.168.4.1)
bcn 100
boot.py output:

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can you try that again?

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 8:59 PM

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lol f-a-r-t-h-e-r is censored

slender iron Sep 20, 2017, 8:59 PM

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got ya covered @floral dagger

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 8:59 PM

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😃

slender iron Sep 20, 2017, 9:00 PM

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now benedict cumberbatch can go farther 😉

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 9:00 PM

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lol yay!!!

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 9:00 PM

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can he be cumbersome

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woohoo!

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 9:00 PM

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So... h-o-o-r-a-y is also a problem.

slender iron Sep 20, 2017, 9:01 PM

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try now @idle owl

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 9:01 PM

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c-o-c-k-y is as well

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 9:01 PM

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@idle owl LOL I did not know the scolding were public!

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 9:01 PM

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@solar whale Oh yes 😃

slender iron Sep 20, 2017, 9:01 PM

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it is briefly

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 9:01 PM

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@slender iron Still censored

slender iron Sep 20, 2017, 9:02 PM

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k try again

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 9:02 PM

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Hooray!

slender iron Sep 20, 2017, 9:02 PM

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😃

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 9:02 PM

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Yay! 😃

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 9:03 PM

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Hooray was censored???

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 9:03 PM

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Yeah when I typed "Hooray, results!" It failed, and I couldn't figure out which part it was.

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 9:03 PM

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Press any key to enter the REPL. Use CTRL-D to soft reset.


Adafruit CircuitPython 2.0.0 on 2017-09-12; ESP module with ESP8266
>>>

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 9:04 PM

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Although it took me a bit to figure out what had even happened. I hadn't seen it before that.

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 9:04 PM

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hooray benedict cumberbatch got farther

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 9:04 PM

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@floral dagger - so no mention of boot.py - it looks like it can't creat the file system - as you said. odd...

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 9:05 PM

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there's a boot.py there now

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 9:05 PM

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via os.listdir ??

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 9:05 PM

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>>> os.listdir()
['boot.py']
>>>

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 9:06 PM

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wow... try import webrepl_setup

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 9:07 PM

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holy moley ```
boot.py output:
WebREPL daemon started on ws://192.168.4.1:8266
Started webrepl in normal mode

Press any key to enter the REPL. Use CTRL-D to soft reset.

Adafruit CircuitPython 2.0.0 on 2017-09-12; ESP module with ESP8266

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 9:07 PM

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you fixed it 😉

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 9:07 PM

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I think it was the power supply all this time.

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 9:07 PM

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!!!

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 9:07 PM

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ah - dis you change something?

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 9:08 PM

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@solar whale @floral dagger Great job!

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 9:08 PM

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I was powerng it via USB. Youasking how it was hooked up got me thinking, so I have it on a breadboard supply now

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 9:08 PM

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@idle owl thanks, but we've been here before - hopefully @floral dagger can do this consistenetly now!

slender iron Sep 20, 2017, 9:09 PM

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what was the USB connected to?

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 9:09 PM

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Fair enough, but still. The level of tenacity you guys have for this is nothing short of impressive.

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 9:09 PM

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underpowered makes sense. It seemed to do better at lower baud rates

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lusb was to my laptop @slender iron

slender iron Sep 20, 2017, 9:10 PM

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is the laptop plugged in?

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 9:10 PM

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Yeah

slender iron Sep 20, 2017, 9:10 PM

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hrm, bummer

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usb is pretty flexible when it comes to power delivery

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 9:11 PM

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what usb->serial cable are you using

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 9:11 PM

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it's a usb/ttl adapter. It's possible that the 3.3v out line on it is weak

slender iron Sep 20, 2017, 9:13 PM

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ah yup

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 9:13 PM

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It should be 3.5 to 5V on Vcc - so if it is 3.3 - that may be the problem - mine is 5V

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@floral dagger - it looks like you found the culprit - nice work! see if it is stable now and by all means keep us updated!

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 9:15 PM

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Just tested file creation and writing. That seems to be good

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 9:15 PM

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nice!

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 9:15 PM

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Holy cow you guys. I can't believe it was something that simple. Maybe now I can give you some peace

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on the bright side....going through the docs like Ive done, taught me a lot. So there's that

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 9:17 PM

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@floral dagger this was a good puzzle and we are glad to help. I leared a lot, too.

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 9:17 PM

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@floral dagger It's a learning experience for all of us and we know for next time to add that into the checks. It's always helpful to work through issues.

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 9:18 PM

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now you can put the hammer away agiain 😉

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 9:18 PM

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lol far....far away...my precioussssssssss

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it calls to me

formal plover Sep 20, 2017, 9:19 PM

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Yay!!!! @floral dagger @solar whale @idle owl @slender iron

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Great troubleshooting!!!

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 9:20 PM

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Yay! @formal plover too.

formal plover Sep 20, 2017, 9:20 PM

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I spent half a day on a bad usb cable @floral dagger

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It was for my Feather M0 Express though, not my ESP8266

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It would provide power and run the example code, but I couldn't connect via serial.

floral dagger Sep 20, 2017, 9:23 PM

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oh wow...that would be a head scratcher

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Thanks so much everyone; especially @solar whale I would have thrown in the towel on thislast night if not for you all

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 9:24 PM

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@floral dagger We're glad you didn't! We're super happy to have you!

formal plover Sep 20, 2017, 9:25 PM

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@solar whale is the man, I agree. He never gives up.

solar whale Sep 20, 2017, 9:25 PM

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@floral dagger you are very welcome - you were very patient with me as well - good luck!

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@formal plover aw shucks 😊

hallow vessel Sep 20, 2017, 9:34 PM

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I have a feather Huzzah I am trying to flash with circuitpython and I have gotten it to accept the 2.0 bin and it responds to a serial connection with Adafruit CircuitPython 2.0.0 on 2017-09-12; ESP module with ESP8266 but I was kinda hoping it would mount as a USB drive. Is there some trick to this?

formal plover Sep 20, 2017, 9:35 PM

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Unfortunately @hallow vessel, the HUZZAH doesn't have the UF2 bootloader. It will never show as a USB drive

hallow vessel Sep 20, 2017, 9:35 PM

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I thought that might be the case 😦

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I read about the UF2 but.... I did not see how I could update it.

formal plover Sep 20, 2017, 9:36 PM

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I know, a little but of a bummer. However, once you get familiar with webrepl or Ampy it'll still be a lot of fun

hallow vessel Sep 20, 2017, 9:36 PM

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I use them but... USB would have been nice.

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I mean a USB drive

formal plover Sep 20, 2017, 9:38 PM

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@hallow vessel womp womp. Well eventually, not in the near future sadly... They'll have an express board with wifi that'll have that awesome bootloader so it'll show as a drive.

hallow vessel Sep 20, 2017, 9:38 PM

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Thanks, you saved me from having to keep digging to try ti make this happen.

formal plover Sep 20, 2017, 9:39 PM

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@hallow vessel you're welcome! Sorry I don't have better news.

slender iron Sep 20, 2017, 10:12 PM

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@hallow vessel I'd love it if we could do it with the ESP but it doesn't have hardware support for USB. There is a separate converter chip for the serial connection.

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 10:21 PM

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Oh that's right, Trinket and Gemma shipped with CircuitPython!

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@slender iron I think I'm stuck on getting any further with the tap detection without knowing what the other options for click_cfg are. The only one I have an example of is from the fidget spinner, and that's specific to the x-axis only. I wanted to be able to specify which axis or any combination thereof, but as it is, I can specify x or none (so all enabled).

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Actually, let me try something.

slender iron Sep 20, 2017, 10:29 PM

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Did you look at the code in the driver?

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 10:29 PM

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The lis3dh.py file?

slender iron Sep 20, 2017, 10:30 PM

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ya

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 10:31 PM

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Yeah I've been looking through it. There isn't anything specific to this. Trying something else before I say for sure I'm stuck.

slender iron Sep 20, 2017, 10:31 PM

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kk

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the data sheet might piece it together too

idle owl Sep 20, 2017, 10:32 PM

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This breaks what I thought I had figured out, lol. I'll check out the datasheet.

formal plover Sep 20, 2017, 11:18 PM

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Y'all ever get ampy.pyboard.PyboardError: could not enter raw repl?

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nvm