We need ranked gameplay in warbrokers I feel like it will bring more players into the game and make it more playable for the players that are really good. The maps will be medium sized maps and the number of players on each team will be 5 and 5.
#RANKED
dark stream
prisma socket
We need ranked gameplay in warbrokers I feel like it will bring more players int...
ranked ?
elo ranks
the stats site too
dark stream
elo ranks
It could like kinda be played the way that R6 is played
Or kinda go off of r6
Like there are it's own ranks
dark stream
So rainbow six siege has ranked in it and you have to be a certain level to play ranked and it's 50 I feel like instead of 50 players could start playing ranked when reach level 25
Instead of 50
dark stream
develop
Do you know the site that like tracks the other ranks you are in each category?
We could go off of those ranks
A person must get a certain amount of elo each match to essentially "rank up"
Once they reach the amount of elo they can rank up and reach the next rank the first 2 ranks should have elo protection
Players for rank start with 0 elo and it goes up overtime you know cause you'll rank up
It shouldn't matter how many players the game has but I do feel it would bring some players back
I've been playing this game for so long and I feel like this is what the game needs
If anyone needs me to develop it even more I can definitely do that
Oh also this gameplay will give the new players time to develop instead of getting put into a game with high skill players
void surge
Perfect
cuz like a person can't fight with a rocket if he was lvl( expecience) like 20 (very small amount of gameplay)
untold timber
I'm pretty sure this is a duplicate suggestion
dark stream
I'm pretty sure this is a duplicate suggestion
Yeah but I still don't think that it's a bad idea
You know giving new people a chance
untold timber
Yeah but I still don't think that it's a bad idea
Me neither
Though a ranked match system would first require a big player base
Before it creates a cycle that brings in more and more players
dark stream
That's why the teams are smaller than the regular maps it's kinda like 4v4 but one more person on each team or they could just turn the 4v4 into ranked
untold timber
Competitive matches are rarely seen even in 4v4 though
dark stream
Yeah but that's where the ranked part comes into play
untold timber
How do you know it wouldn't be the same in ranked matches?
Not to sound negative btw
dark stream
Well that's where they do the play test to see if it would even go well
dark stream
It could
dusk laurel
Not enough players for ranked
dark stream
Not enough players for ranked
Read above
dusk laurel
The game often dips below 100 players, especially at night for NA
how a ranked game mode would work, idk
dark stream
I'm going to try and bring it back I'll just need a little help
void surge
The thing with 4v4 is either all bots or 100% competitive, there is no middle class for intermediate players or even "decent" players. Also teh maps are much worse than classic 8v8
dim musk
I don't think we have enough players for this to properly work
limber root
Conundrum. War Brokers player base has too high a proportion of beginners for the general gameplay quality to be good, and that gameplay quality likely stops most of the beginners from staying and developing into a decent sized quality player base.
void surge
Well, I think with "beginner, intermediate, advanced", players will be sure to choose where they play and with who they play. I also commend a "training with bots" but in classical maps, br already has enough.
dark stream
Hmm okay
tawdry tendon
no.
lone sun
We need ranked gameplay in warbrokers I feel like it will bring more players int...
like brawl stars?
void surge
Like chess. A person like me can't fight a person like say rocket or even some ai members (zinc for example) I would need intermediate matches. It would also be unfair if someone like rocket fights lower tier ppl if you get what I mean.
random mirage
not necessarily
Elo accounts for that
of course the result could be almost guaranteed that the lower Elo player loses, but they would not lose a lot of Elo
and the winner would barely get anything out of it at all
and you see, this is what Elo was actually designed for
comp/ranked FPS games run different to Chess
void surge
Elo accounts for that
Well elo is very frail in terms of fairness, there are farmers in the end. Some ppl like me used to have a larger elo yet still in the "begginner" class. I had 1740 elo as an average, yet now I am a much better player. Elo's are very hard to use, also there are players like Rocket! who can solo an entire team even though the elo is higher overall. And at the same time lose to people because elo's matchmaking is not the best as of now.
Also I am not talking about this for my elo. I could not careless as of now.
random mirage
I'm talking about Chess
void surge
I actually like to sacrifice elo for a game with zinc and doki. and yes when you play with a much better player you get "farmed" and thus you lose a lot.
random mirage
you know... the thing that Elo is kinda designed for and where the maths works
because you used Chess as example
void surge
I'm talking about Chess
Ok...but I meant in chess as use the chess rating system "lower, intermediate, advanced".
random mirage
yeah I think it doesn't work that well because you will be talking about a specific Chess system
there is no "Chess system" that is universal
and also because Elo works there
and you likely mean more in line with FPS games like CS and Valorant
a Diamond or Global Elite or whatever can't go fight someone in Silver
void surge
Yes. So 8 players like me (mid players) vs another 8 of them. Sorry I don't play other games so I didn't understand what you said.
This is the only game I play.
random mirage
let's make an example and simple ranking system
- Diamond
- Gold
- Silver
- Bronze
bronze can only fight bronze, silver can only fight silver, etc.
void surge
Yes.
random mirage
as you beat more and more players you eventually rank up
as you lose more and more you'd end up ranking down
this can mean you may end up fluctuating between two ranks
void surge
True..
random mirage
move up to gold, then drop to silver, then move up to gold, drop to silver
random mirage
some games may allow you to fight one above/below
but it normally is limited
someone in Diamond can never fight someone in Bronze
and that is where the term smurfing originates
void surge
Yes true.
hasty whale
Plok stole the spotlight
void surge
and that is where the term smurfing originates
Yeah lol
hasty whale
😔
random mirage
a Diamond player makes an alt and goes to play on Bronze
void surge
Mmm. So what you are asserting, is that the usage of alternates would increase due to this system right?
random mirage
no
you said you don't really know the system
I was giving a brief and basic explanation
void surge
ah ok .
void surge
Well it's ok to be a little more complex for a more fair match and more equal fights, don't you think?
void surge
Also it should be your choice, it's ok to play on any levelr rank you need.
random mirage
how many players in WB would be Diamond?
and then of those Diamond players, how many of them will be online at the same time?
void surge
how many players in WB would be Diamond?
Few, very few.
void surge
and then of those Diamond players, how many of them will be online at the same t...
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Yeah I understand.
random mirage
and then you have across the world, so maybe you have EU and Australia and the only way to fight is to have high ping
reducing how many can REALLY fight against each other even more
hasty whale
It isn’t worth the struggle then
void surge
Yeah true, practically it is impossible to implement this.
random mirage
it's also a separated mode
so you'd have to pull players out of casual/classic where most people chill
bring them to the ranked/comp
so you reduce the numbers even further
void surge
Yeah....
random mirage
we just don't have the player counts currently to really support a fun and well-functioning ranked/comp experience
void surge
we just don't have the player counts currently to really support a fun and well-...
Soon, we will. Dw
void surge
Plok stole the spotlight
Sorry Just wanted to understand, how may I help you.
random mirage
not to mention server costs to pay for the servers that barely get used 
but that's a spearate issue
hasty whale
Sorry Just wanted to understand, how may I help you.
I didn’t need any help?
void surge
not to mention server costs to pay for the servers that barely get used <:corona...
yeah lol. Asia for example.
hasty whale
I was simply providing commentary
void surge
I didn’t need any help?
Ok. Just saying if u wanted anything, tho why does bronze fighting bronze only doesn't make sense. Just a note to add, I didn't say necessarily only limited to bronze, you can fight gold if u want, u feeling me? But can't bully anyone lower.
random mirage
the gold is bullying the bronze
hasty whale
Ok. Just saying if u wanted anything, tho why does bronze fighting bronze only d...
Alright, let’s look at the game Valorant
random mirage
it goes both ways, even if the lower fights a higher... the higher is also fighting the lower
void surge
Alright, let’s look at the game Valorant
don't play any games other than wb.
hasty whale
Each has three tiers
hasty whale
don't play any games other than wb.
I’m simply providing an example
Allow me to elaborate
void surge
it goes both ways, even if the lower fights a higher... the higher is also fight...
Yeah it's ok, the bronze asked for it. But the gold is only allowed to fight lower if they come to him/her but going around and bullying is frowned upon.
hasty whale
Each has three tiers
As I was saying, you could be a Bronze player
void surge
Yeah...
hasty whale
But you could be Bronze 1 and not Bronze 3
Putting this hypothetically, if each rank has multiple tiers
void surge
Mhmm.
hasty whale
What I meant with Bronze players just fighting Bronze players
Is that you could be Bronze 3
void surge
and still fight bronze 1
hasty whale
But have the skill of a Silver 2 player
void surge
But have the skill of a Silver 2 player
Yeah true.
hasty whale
It’s just that you’ve been placed lower
Some people may not deserve to be in their rank
Worse or better
Bronze players fighting only players in Bronze doesn’t make sense, therefore
void surge
Well that could be fixed if we have a good elo counting metric, like Plok said, but then again, we need a larger player count.
hasty whale
I could be a Bronze player and still lose to an Iron player
Does that mean I suck?
No (yes, it does)
void surge
No it don't.
hasty whale
Fighting someone of the same rank isn’t great
Fighting someone of a similar/comparative rank is better
void surge
Well, it surely doesn't improve you.