HEAVILY restrict guest usage

[subtle scarab]

and at its core, the issue is still that someone is illegitimately being balanced

you can like the challenge

that's not an issue

but you can fight the exact same human while they are on their account being balanced

you don't have to fight that specific human when they are smurfing to get an opportunity to play with them

plus everyone else gets the benefit

[spice idol]

Its very difficult to fight when Ur so underpowered and its unfair. But u know whats cool about this? It makes so good that when the issue Is resolved u become so good at normal fair balanced matches

[spice idol]

Agreed. But thats just the way it is. I aint leaving the only game I Love for some smurfs.

[subtle scarab]

the opposite of course is that you have the smurf on your team

and your team has over 30 points

and their team has literally 0 points

and you don't even have to be doing anything, the results stay the same

incredibly boring to play

[spice idol]

I change teams then.

[subtle scarab]

then with all due respect, let everyone else play in peace

[spice idol]

Huh? I didnt understand? They are welcome to play

[subtle scarab]

your argument is the same as saying you really really love spicy food so we should just chuck in all the chilli into the one pot everyone eats from

instead of it being an optional thing for you to add to your own bowl

you are saying everyone should get dragged in

[cold dagger]

You shouldn't have to change teams if it was able to be properly balanced from the beginning

[subtle scarab]

you may like bad balance

sure

that's you

majority of people and the science points to fairness being fun

[spice idol]

Nah its just that I mean. I wont leave because of smurfs not that I prioritise it over fair gameplay

[spice idol]

Correct

[spice idol]

I adapt that what I mean. I find it challenging. But I like fair team balance more.

Not that I would throw the whole thing.

U feeling me?

[spice idol]

No I didnt say that.

I said if its incredibly spicy, I would chew on it when noone else does and wont let that food go to waste. I like The challenge but I like regular food more.

[subtle scarab]

you just changed my analogy to your points... to prove my analogy correct

do not add the chilli to the pot

give everyone their bowl

everyone enjoys their bowl and nothing is wasted

if you want to add spice, you add it to your bowl

you get your spicy bowl and are happy

the others get unspicy bowls and are happy

everyone is happy

your solution is to add chilli to the pot and everyone is forced to have it the way you like it

you are happy because you like the spice

the others are not happy

_ _
not only that, but if you don't want it to be spicy one day, you are able to not add the spice

[spice idol]

? No my analogy goes like this... I dont add any chilli at all. If it were to me I would do as The majority likes. If the food comes as spicy I would not go and throw the food away.

I would not add spice to mine or their's

Same for smurfs

[subtle scarab]

then according to that logic, the majority want the game to be fairer and for smurfs to be removed

so please do not say to people that it's honestly fine and you like it

that it's just a skill issue

they can get better and it will all be better

[spice idol]

Yes me too. But I simply wont just hate the game and leave it just cuz their are smurfs.

[spice idol]

I like it but I like fair much much more.

[spice idol]

I was always talking bout me btw

[subtle scarab]

awesome, just please be careful not to be insensitive ... that's all I am saying

if you pose it as a skill issue, you are going to trigger a lot of users who have suffered with horrible matches for years

some of which are the top of the top 1% of players

[spice idol]

No no no not a skill issue.

I wasnt talking bout them lol

[subtle scarab]

"just get better" is not going to sit well with them, so just be careful how you word things

[spice idol]

Oh darn I said that

?

[subtle scarab]

the implication is there... if you go and say you say you would consider it a skill issue and that you need to get better, it is easy to infer that EVERYONE needs to just get better to avoid the issue

[spice idol]

I was talking about myself

[subtle scarab]

which can greatly annoy users, particularly when they are trying to eradicate the issue

I can break it down if that makes it easier

[spice idol]

Nah you understood me. Thats all good.

[subtle scarab]

Yah ig
Remember smurfs R humans. If they have skill and I cant cope with it the issue Is really just me not The smurf (unless there was like 3 in one team and even then any Ai player can solo em).

you are talking about yourself here, yes

with this though the sentence carries an underlying message that the issue is on the individual (even if you refer to yourself, it is inferred to mean the readers and everyone complaining as well)
this also of course puts justification to the smurf as just some random person and that they are not an issue... which also attacks the position of the individuals here

_ _
wording can be incredibly important

[spice idol]

Mhm

[subtle scarab]

anyway, to move off from being critical...

remove smurfs... yay

[spice idol]

One last thing.

Thats not what I meant. Ofc it does throw off matches a lot. And most certainly ruins a lot of fun. And for me, it makes me lose a lot of gelo and elo. Die a lot. Activity in the match goes down especially if I cant fight back. But here us where I differ with ppl, just adapt. Find the fun in everything. The problem aint goin away so the best choice aint to ditch the game and cause it to die rather stay in the game. And try to have fun. It sucks but it is what it is.

I dont mean get goods Its their skill issue. I know it is not I said dont give up. Just grind.

[solid badger]

solution: become the smurf

[hard ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-ban-this-guy-can-we-ban-this-guy-mod-moderator-moderators-gif-4656455223274005082

[torpid radish]

You agree that it ruins balance and a lot of fun and that you want more balance...so what is your actual reason for voting the suggestion down?

Nevermind. Found your original reason.
#1330883618050146335 message

[heady copper]

Ah yes, if you can't beat them, join them

[hard ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-how-about-no-austin-powers-gif-17640212

[torpid radish]

I wouldn't smurf (mostly because I hate playing on browser), but I will don the guest skin sometimes to make things fairer.

Spy vs spy.

[fathom cradle]

Only if there’s no other players in the server

Otherwise I am against that

[torpid radish]

I think everyone should join the guest skin gang in that situation. Equal terms for whole lobby.

[spice idol]

That was another story, scroll up to read my pov and how they responded.

[hard ruin]

No, I am loyal to the Anti-Guest Gang Association only. Begone with that filthy suggestion.

Well, actually. I'm the founder

[fathom cradle]

Guest skin != guest

[vernal reef]

spetsnaz = smurf

[hard ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/bird-funny-bird-owl-shocked-surprised-gif-4581166

[spice idol]

Yo why?

cuz of the dislike? Nah just go read bruh

[old finch]

disliking this suggestion is trolling

[vernal reef]

real

facts

i agree spizz

300%

[spice idol]

bruh. Just read...also part of it is trolling ngl

[old finch]

I don't feel like reading up lol

there was over 400 messages or smth

[spice idol]

Fair enough lol

I can relate

[vernal reef]

same

there is no reason to dislike that

or ur a smurf

[spice idol]

That is actually very wrong.

[spice idol]

Omg, pls don't be a judge

[vernal reef]

ah so 56 ppl are verry wrong

[spice idol]

You seem to misunderstand me, I didn't say they r wrong. I said if u dislike it don't mean that ur automatically a smurf

[old finch]

can you explain in a concise fashion why you disliked this suggestion

[vernal reef]

actully all are upvote, ur using downvote, so all other ppl don't like your choice

[spice idol]

Ok there are couple reasons.
1-Logging in can be risky for ppl who are banned to game.
2-I honestly view smurfs as a challenge, an enemy is an enemy, it does ruin a lot of things from stats to game-making to fun, but when this issue is resolved ull be much more used to the pressure.
3-If we remove guest usage, how will newcomers ever visit the game as, well guests? They will be forced to log in. Now smurfin ain't like guests but if u remove smurfing it decreases amount of ppl visitin the game
4-To be honest, there are problems which are more important to address, for example underage (this game has 13+) but they don't really enforce that. Matchmaking itself is ruinned without smurfs they should figure that out

[spice idol]

They sure don't, thats why if I was dev, I would disregard my opinion, cuz most ppl didn't agree. Thats literally why we have voting and I am happy to disregard my own opinion

[old finch]

The first point just doesn't make sense

If someone is banned

[vernal reef]

that .....

what

[old finch]

they can't play on that account

[gilded marten]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-marky-mark-wahlberg-gif-14257492

[spice idol]

Wait, I don't mean banned by devs, I mean banned at home lol

😭

[old finch]

how many people do you think are going behind their parents back to play a .io game

[spice idol]

um like 1/100

or so

[old finch]

so we have 200 people on at once at most

so 2 people

Wow

[spice idol]

Yeah...

[old finch]

Ok bye I hate this conversation

[spice idol]

Bye

lol

[vernal reef]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/478224237065273344/1269084521513353317/cat.gif

ur literally encouraging smurfing then

[spice idol]

Um, not exactly, you see

[vernal reef]

yes exactly

[spice idol]

I talked with furious who debunked the first point.

[vernal reef]

that what i see

[spice idol]

also, like I said, I would love smurfing to be resolved. But...

I don't mind the smurfs.

[lapis flare]

Viewing smurfs as a challenge is not the point.

They may serve as a challenge

but they undermine the balencing of the game.

The game stops being fun.

[spice idol]

That is true.

[lapis flare]

What is the point of playing a game if it isn't fun?

That's at least why I play.

[spice idol]

I don't agree to the game not being fun

I agree they ruin the balance.

[lapis flare]

If there are like 5 good players on one team, and one good player on the other.

Then the game is no longer fun.

[spice idol]

But like I said, matchmaking is ruinned anyways.

[lapis flare]

Smurfs lead to more good people being on one side than the other leading to people on the other side not having fun.

In fact, that would lead to more people not joining because a new player wouldn't find the game so fun.

[gilded marten]

I don't mind smurfs. I upvoted this suggestion for a different reason.

[spice idol]

thats yalls opinions.

Mine is different.

thats why there is a voting system.

[lapis flare]

I have never said that you shouldn't offer your opinion.

[spice idol]

Like I said, all in all, the matchmaking is ruinned

[spice idol]

I was clarifying mine, I don't mind going against 3 ai players (wait I actually did, and id probably posted an image) It will be extremely terrible. But I will just adapt. such is life.

[spice idol]

W

[lapis flare]

Then in that case, you do not align with the supermajority of players of the community.

[spice idol]

Um of course.

[vernal reef]

ur not EU player

[lapis flare]

fr.

EU is horrible.

[spice idol]

I am based in asia, but I always play US. There are good players there.

[lapis flare]

I can't play without loosing 15 elo per kill.

[vernal reef]

and you don't play at EU hours

[spice idol]

Why so.

[lapis flare]

Yes, there are not many smurfs in NA.

[spice idol]

Bruh I lost like 30 elo to smurfs. I still don't say this game is horrible

[vernal reef]

us is like ... chill
1 or 2 smurfs

max

and the US players are ..ok

[cold dagger]

EU is such a smurf heaven 😂

[vernal reef]

when you fall on Nachtflake, discat, the destroyer, sporox guy, and many other that ... way harder

plus smurfs

also a reason of why no one understand why the KBAR random guys are horrible

why spawn rushing with heli is horrible

why spawn rushing is horrible

[spice idol]

I do play in eu when us is inactive

[vernal reef]

thay are like "oh just kill them, thay are in the spawn !"

its not eazy

[spice idol]

Nachtfalke the 50 Cal guy?

[vernal reef]

nachtflake does many think but mostlky 50, sniper and smg

[spice idol]

Yeah. I played with him a lot.

[vernal reef]

nachtflake is not that good btw

[spice idol]

But yeah like I said. I dont mind the smurfs.

[vernal reef]

comparing to other eu "regular" players

[vernal reef]

because you never meet them ig

that the only reason i see

[spice idol]

I literally told you I lost 30 elo to them, one match, what is the point of saying this?

[spice idol]

Thats the only reason you see but not The only reason for me.

[cold dagger]

What makes smurfs good, if anything, in your opinion?

I'm guessing nothing, as you are really for having the guest option

but not specifically smurfing

[spice idol]

Good? Hmmm maybe the pressure. Makes u a better player.

But like yeah

Nothin else

[vernal reef]

and even all "eu" players like furious, nandy, ... non offence buy u guys don't rly play anymore. i don't see how i could get advices actually because u guys don't play at same moment or idk. they were way less smurfs before and way less strong and skilled as now. same for plok. stop saying "get better" or "skill issue"
its not simple

[cold dagger]

I think it's you believe smurfing is merely an unintended and unavoidable side effect of having such a good guesting system?

[vernal reef]

count to ai guys too, other than discat and lod

[spice idol]

It Is intended a lot sometimes.

[cold dagger]

Seeing the player's name makes better pressure. "I've seen this guy, SpetsnazGRU a lot. He kills me pretty consistently, I'm honestly a little scared of him." sort of thing

[vernal reef]

then why disliking ???

[old finch]

Spetz is ragebaiting just ignore it lol

[cold dagger]

The action of smurfing is intended, definitely

[vernal reef]

nah we are ragebaiting on him not understanding smurfs lol

[spice idol]

Nah Bro. That is smth else. For example anytime I see an Ai tag I am scared. But I mean If we have only discat vs lod. You will expect it. But u expect guests.

[cold dagger]

I don't think I'm being rage baited, I'm actually rather calm right now because of my music. I have the mental capacity to read what might other times set me off 😔

[spice idol]

They are lying. If i was ragebaiting we would all be muted. I swear I am not.

[cold dagger]

Point is that you know the nick, with the guest tag you do not. I like knowing who it is I am versing :D

[old finch]

I would rather guests be eradicated alltogether in competitive play

[vernal reef]

what is this ai guy i'm not scared at all 🤔

i don't remember the name but lol

[cold dagger]

Roblox is such a good example of sign in options though, EVERYONE using it needs an account. No exceptions

[spice idol]

I understand but you will be more wary when you dont know who Ur facing right? Especially that they all R similar

[cold dagger]

Not really. Much more scared to see Iffy's skin over the guest skin.

[spice idol]

Well.. Thats actually pretty cool. For me its iffy hiding under guest skin. Lol and sorry my opinion may have angered some of you

[vernal reef]

#1370898478116503582 message long text of another game using login and guest think but have blocked possibilities for guests which make way more ppl having accounts. that a good way to start ig

[gilded marten]

I like the idea of restricting guest usage but not the complete removal.

[vernal reef]

we could start by restricting heavly

then we see what happend

time to let ppl having accounts

and then delete completly

[gilded marten]

Maybe add a popup after a certain amount of time that says "To play more please create an account".

[spice idol]

Its great

[vernal reef]

deleting completly the guests may be a chock

[cold dagger]

Pretty sure that was the idea early on. Something like after one or three rounds Plok has said.

[cold dagger]

shock?

like scared

[spice idol]

Gtg yall ill be back

[vernal reef]

idea is good, reality useless. just refresh cookies and alldiseapear. play on inconito mode and its useless too.

[gilded marten]

This game caters to a younger audience. I wonder how many of the players who smurf would be willing to figure that out.

[cold dagger]

#1330883618050146335 message

[vernal reef]

Chocked i meant

[cold dagger]

The ones that refresh the incognito tab anyway and follow you around, hunting

[vernal reef]

Idk

Hurt

[cold dagger]

shock in that spot can imply a change that requires you to get used to

and that may be harder to get used to

[gilded marten]

Hmm, I don't often use incognito mode. Do you use it frequently, or know if others do?

[vernal reef]

I dont think younger are that dumb if they can be proer than many ppl

[cold dagger]

I know Plok had this experience and many others have reported of it.

[gilded marten]

I see.

[vernal reef]

Ik how it works on wb

[cold dagger]

I'm pretty sure I've had this. I have seen 1550s "leave" during vote and 1500s "join"

[vernal reef]

Just like if u opened the game for first time

[gilded marten]

What about if we used an IP ban of some sort.

[vernal reef]

With shotgun ar loadout

[cold dagger]

Unsure of if that was discussed, would that not impact them using their real account, the one we want them on?

And VPNs work around that, no?

[cold dagger]

I suppose if they're alting, we don't want them playing anyway 😅

[gilded marten]

and children know how to use VPNs?

[cold dagger]

Yeah

[vernal reef]

An also login don't work on incognito mode

[cold dagger]

Schools ban things on their wifi all the time, people find ways around them

especially with more and more younger kids getting phones and whatnot

[vernal reef]

Any way to try creating account and login with alr existing

[vernal reef]

N it hard

Not*

Just look

Opera have an alr vpn itself

Just click it's done

[gilded marten]

When they get an IP ban, why wouldn't they just create an account? I doubt these people are deliberately going out of their way to smurf.

[cold dagger]

Most are

[vernal reef]

They don't think creating accounts

Because it's not clear

Nothing different to playstyle tbh

Gameplay same

[cold dagger]

Do you place these same doubts on those incognito-refresh-tab-after-each-round smurfs?

[vernal reef]

Like, u see, for us, we have an steam ad when we are on beowser
We have an steam ad when we are on stats site profile
We have steam ads here, in discord server with the role, command
Steam ad too in wiki

Where are normal account ads ???

How it's explained to guests to do accounts

Only on menu customisation things

Which is useless for someone want to play

I suggest to block few weapons to guests and increasing accounts popup for them

[gilded marten]

That's really interesting. I know for me if I play an hour or two of a game and like it I'll buy it and/or create an account.

[vernal reef]

Also many of them don't know how go to menu

[gilded marten]

Perhaps we should consider why these people smurf. Is there something else we can fix to reduce the number of smurfs?

[cold dagger]

Blocking weapons ain't going to happen though

[cold dagger]

How easy it is to see Elo live?

[gilded marten]

I also know that many people play this game during breaks between classes at school. Perhaps they don’t login because they see it as just a school game. Meanwhile at home they can play more "mainstream" games.

[vernal reef]

how u restrict then

thta the only way

cosmetics are nothing for them

if we block aksmg, new weapons, sniper and few basic things

[cold dagger]

forcing them to login, just give them pop-ups after a few rounds sort of thing

[vernal reef]

they will make accounts

[cold dagger]

make them more aggressive

[vernal reef]

pops up are ... just closeable

i prefer facts

[lapis flare]

Restricting guests too certain weapons

makes sense

Ar and shotgun?

[vernal reef]

nah they are alr

[spice idol]

Fr tho

[spice idol]

Not gonna work, vpns mask the ip.

[spice idol]

I was still 12 when I started using vpns so maybe

[spice idol]

Hmmm. Mostly ppl smurf to keep their elo or to stalk someone

[fathom cradle]

Would still cut down on the number most likely

[spice idol]

What? Sorry I didn't understand

[gilded marten]

If that's the case remove ELO from guests then.

[fathom cradle]

What?

[fathom cradle]

Would cut down on the number of Smurfs

[gilded marten]

@spice idol pointed out that many people smurf to keep their ELO. I suggested the idea of removing ELO from the guests or make it so that guests don't affect logged in player's ELO or that guest player's ELO doesn't change.

[fathom cradle]

Removing elo from guests would make the situation 100x worse

It would make every guest into an unbalanced mess

And you can’t stop guests from removing players elo… if they lose a game, they lose gelo

[gilded marten]

hmm

I didn't think about gelo. That's a good point.

[heady copper]

I would not agree on smurf to keep elo

Sure, it prevents elo from decreasing, but also from increasing
Same goes for every other stats

Smurf to target someone is much more likely

It prevents people from recognizing you, and makes the team arranging for you completely random instead of elo based

[subtle scarab]

A VPN can be detected FYI

it could be set up so that if you are identified as a user on a VPN, it blocks you from playing

if we really wanted to

[solid badger]

schizo

🤦

[solid badger]

I don't think AI members have actually said that

what is this even about atp

[vernal reef]

I can search back but i dont have time

[solid badger]

🗿

[alpine sonnet]

Viewing smurfs as a challenge is great, but unfortunately they do tamper with the games matchmaking, which is not so ideal.

As about point 4... I am not entirely certain how Trebuchet Entertainment is supposed to "enforce" this. Perhaps you should need to send an image of you with your ID card?

It's not as easy unfortunately.

[vernal reef]

#AntiGuestGang

[hard ruin]

Kill it.

https://tenor.com/view/dew-it-galactic-republic-palpatine-gif-21847982

[alpine sonnet]

Usually suggestion forums are used to discuss the suggestion, not post the same thing over and over again

[viral bough]

Hi so a couple of pointers from me for each of your point (to bring the thread back on topic)

1. That is your own opinion, not an objective downside (unless I misread your sentence completely).

2. That is your own opinion, not an objective downside.

3. Valid reason, but the downsides clearly outweighs the benefit of having guests for the game. In terms of players, it's not a solution for a healthy game. Guests (specifically smurfing guests) currently acts as deterrents for long-time players. As explained in the original message by Plague, there were cases where the guest would follow a player to different servers to specifically target them and nothing can really be done about that. Once players understand the fundamentals of the game, even without knowing the specifics of ELO, can immediately tell if team balancing is off because of guests. You don't need to be a genius to figure out issues regarding guests. Guests smurfing are getting more common by the day, and the concept of "guests" is no longer a simple fix for players to supposedly try a "small" sample of the game.

4. It's not up to you to decide on the priority of the suggestions, it's the developers. Feel free to open up your own suggestions for the issues you find around the game.

[spice idol]

Sorry for the late reply, just trying to minimize usage of discord. Yes I do agree with both your points. But all I said was I aint leaving the game for some smurfs. As for your second. It is indeed pretty hard to do so... Maybe need to send schools Certificate showing Ur above 13 Idk. Tbh

[spice idol]

Yes these are my opinions and were shares because I was asked to. I think the devs put rules for a reason. Things that are breaking the rules rank over hated ones like smurfing. So alts and age limit are more important than smurfing and elo farming.

[viral bough]

It's not up to you to decide on the priority of the suggestions, it's the developers. Feel free to open up your own suggestions for the issues you find around the game.

No use trying to find solutions for under age users, alts, etc in a post that talks about guest useage.

[spice idol]

Like I said. It may not be my decision but its my opinion. I said it matters more than smurfing. But then again. Its an opinion. Would Love to hear yours.

[viral bough]

I just stated my opinion…

https://tenor.com/view/wtff-cat-confused-orange-gif-25858653

[viral bough]

But yes, this is me officially asking you to stay on topic when it comes to these posts. If you want to talk about other issues, open up your own suggestions or add to an already-existing one.

[subtle scarab]

It isn't just a hated thing, smurfing is very commonly against the rules in almost every single game you can name

I'd like to point to the famous ban wave that Valve did for a recent Christmas event in Dota 2

a lot of smurfs got coal in their gift

the coal came with the message "You have been banned for..."

[subtle scarab]

and alting itself already is a form of smurfing

the most common smurfing is with guests

cause it's just that much simpler and easier to do

that's why this suggestion looks at why guests are positive, how we can keep the positives for the innocent bystander just wanting to try the game, and then purge everything else we can about the system to stop everyone else from using it improperly

[vernal reef]

Ur becoming plok

[spice idol]

No its. ok...all g

[spice idol]

Sorry idk bout other games but yeah.

[stark chasm]

most guest are bots

[subtle scarab]

factually incorrect

bots are strictly limited to a max of 4 per match

2 per team

as humans begin to fill the server, the bots will be replaced

most guests are real human players

and the issue is not for real guests or even bots

this is about smurfs

[stark chasm]

Oof

[subtle scarab]

players who are not signing in and breaking balance because they are being treated as worse than they actually are

[stark chasm]

i see

[stark chasm]

wha?

[stark chasm]

oh

[subtle scarab]

let's say you have someone that has been playing a few years and is level 500

you want them on their account because the team balance will treat their account as powerful

if they make an alt, or use a fresh guest... they are treated as brand new to the game

the game balances the match assuming they are weak... meaning that team they get sent to is actually a LOT stronger than it is meant to be

if it's against you, you have a horrible time even trying to win

if it's with you, you have a boring time because you don't even have a challenge, it's just an automatic win

[stark chasm]

yea

thats a prob

[solid badger]

Why is this post still active

[torpid radish]

That is true for BR and DEC, just not classic. 4v4 is maybe closer to half and half.

[torpid radish]

So that it always stays at the top of the suggestions.

[stark chasm]

Oof

[fathom cradle]

We also found the second smurf boys

:P

[stark chasm]

oop

[hard ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-push-back-his-hairline-gif-11241907652566626707

57 vs 2, still a victory

well...

56 vs 2

Even Zdebe upvoted

[stark chasm]

xd

[fathom cradle]

It wasn’t even him tho

[cold dagger]

Mazda RX7 voted both 🙃

[hard ruin]

great, now i look like a fool

[vernal reef]

b u m p

[dawn vine]

A week of inactivity doesn't harm, let it rest more before posting non topic.

[median acorn]

This is now 95% of nonsense and bumping and irrelevant slogans. It is unreadable. Too much of effort to go through to find the good stuff.

This thread needs locking and cleaning. Then passed on to Joja.

[viral bough]

Plague may have covered this in his more recent post

@subtle scarab you wanna close off this one and have the focus on your other one?

[vernal reef]

This is a part of the new

[viral bough]

Okay he did cover it

[subtle scarab]

the megathread refers to this

it is more up-to-date

[viral bough]

So there will no longer be a need to “bump” this thread up. If you guys want to bump, do it for the #1375454975886622780. Leaving this open so people may add further ideas but messages other than that will be deleted. We would like Joja to focus on the ideas mentioned in this thread.

[vernal reef]

I don't really care if it's a "oh don't bump"
we must delete all guests. every server I go, everywhere, even when it's a bot server, they follow me, they target me, they come for me, and every server that don't show 4/16, you will see a smurf appear.

I wish all guests can be deleted, it leads the game to be hyper toxic, many of our greater players left the game because of that

this thing and matching have to be a priority for now to the devs. maps and cosmetics can come after. it's stupid to add cool things if there is no players to see it because all left

[subtle scarab]

I think the idea is that this suggestion was replaced

so there's no point bumping this one

bumping the most up-to-date one makes more sense

title includes "megathread" in the name

[inner pumice]

how is this still alive