Autosniper is an automtatic gun that can kill with two shots to the head. Making it slightly OP.
#Nerf Autosniper
quiet rune
iron copper
Hunting Rifle is an automatic gun that can kill with two shots to the head
and it shoots faster than the Auto Sniper
how would you describe the power difference between them?
iron copper
you need to explain why they need a nerf then
let's bump it up more
the SMG kills in three head shots
but shoots much much much faster
quiet rune
the SMG kills in three head shots
SMG can't kill from long distances
While those two can
iron copper
it can kill
just slowly
so ok, we've gotten somewhere
Hunting Rifle drops off from 200m - 400m btw
but the SMG as an example is better than those
but only in closer ranges
so... things like the Auto Sniper are only good if you are at long range
why is that OP?
quiet rune
so... things like the Auto Sniper are only good if you are at long range
People who aren't good at sniping can use the automatic feature of the gun to increase their odds of a head shot if you know what I mean.
iron copper
so a lesser skilled player can shoot lots
miss a lot
and get a chance to land shots on you
when they may not have otherwise been able to hit you at all
basically... the lesser skilled player is only hitting you because of the Auto Sniper
quiet rune
basically... the lesser skilled player is only hitting you because of the Auto S...
Hmm
you have a point
iron copper
and then if a "pro" fights you
you're already dead
and it doesn't even have to be the Auto Sniper
it could be regular Sniper Rifle
I think that's a case of considering where you walk, where you leave yourself open
and keeping an eye out for enemies
quiet rune
For me I use the sniper because of more experience, the existence of auto sniper makes me feel like someone without experience could do just as well
easier handling
iron copper
do you use it because of that though
or do you not use Auto Sniper cause you actually do worse with it
cause you have to land two hits, not one hit
and that gives time for players to take cover if you mess up
quiet rune
cause you have to land two hits, not one hit
what's the fire rate of auto sniper again?
iron copper
2.5 RPS
quiet rune
do you use it because of that though
I use it because it can one shot in long range combat, and serve as a shotgun in cqc
iron copper
in other words... you find that the Sniper Rifle is a better weapon
iron copper
and so... the worse weapon should be nerfed?
again, I think this is more about accessibility and player skill
the weapon is likely fine
in your perspective
but you're thinking it's the weapon when you don't ACTUALLY believe it's the weapon
it's more of a case that you're seeing a lot of damage you take being from players using it
quiet rune
and so... the worse weapon should be nerfed?
I just think that having the autosniper kind of defeats the purpose of sniper, its like adding a sniper scope on the 50 cal
iron copper
how does it defeat the purpose though
you just said you use sniper because you think it's better
wouldn't that mean the auto sniper has no purpose by that line of logic?
quiet rune
you just said you use sniper because you think it's better
For more experienced players yes
but
iron copper
because you follow up with the .50 cal comment... something where with a scope a better weapon actually gets in the way
ok
so
what about SCAR
training rifle
weaker than AR and AK
has more rounds
less recoil
and is a laser if you stand still
less experienced players can do alright with it
does that mean SCAR is OP?
quiet rune
does that mean SCAR is OP?
Search yt: War Brokers SCAR is OP
there is a video
with the exact same name
iron copper
that proves nothing
quiet rune
does that mean SCAR is OP?
less damage
quiet rune
doesn't mean it is
true, just saying
quiet rune
less damage
more time to kill
quiet rune
is SCAR OP?
no.
iron copper
even though new players can perform well with it?
quiet rune
Actually, wait, consider the word OP, how do you define OP, what is meant by saying something is OP
iron copper
OP means overpowered
it means it is unfairly balanced in a direction that makes it much too strong
generally used to emphasise when something is MUCH stronger than it should be
a.k.a. broken
quiet rune
generally used to emphasise when something is MUCH stronger than it should be
exactly
why would you need a gun like the autosniper that performs almost as well as a sniper
what is the purpose of having such a gun
iron copper
why would you need AK, AR, SCAR, Mutant that performs nearly the same as each other
quiet rune
why would you need AK, AR, SCAR, Mutant that performs nearly the same as each ot...
Diversity in game
iron copper
then if that's your answer, you answered yourself
pastel zinc
I always saw the Hunting rifle as some kind of sniper training
odd lotus
I always saw the Hunting rifle as some kind of sniper training
Pretty lackluster. AS was/is supposed to be the sniper trainer but IMO its too forgiving
Should have more recoil
*HR pretty lackluster as a sniper trainer
quiet rune
*HR pretty lackluster as a sniper trainer
HR is a revolver trainer :)
robust urchin
Vice versa imo
quiet rune
HR is a MR trainer <:kek_cry:907164072808706109>
Did they just change the model, is it still the HR inside? 
odd lotus
Vice versa imo
Eh. No reason to use the slower DMR with the same recoil over the "not a 7 hs kill against a sniper"
HR is easier to use in terms of RPS. Trains you to keep DMRs on target before you use the faster firing big boy
quiet rune
Eh. No reason to use the slower DMR with the same recoil over the "not a 7 hs ki...
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odd lotus
Damage drop is atrocious though
Better than the HR. Or equal I would presume
HR is a 7hs kill at min ennit
odd lotus
4hs at minimum?
odd lotus
4hs at minimum?
Pfft lol doesn't feel like it
odd lotus
So its max is like 500 on the MR give or take
Wonder what the accuracy difference is if there is one 🤔
robust urchin
HR is a lot more flexible
Mount a 2x and a grip on it, you've got a spectacular close-range weapon. 6x and a compensator and you can still reach out and touch while doing good amounts of damage
Plus the fire rate (and the fact that it's automatic)
odd lotus
Plus the fire rate (and the fact that it's automatic)
Theoretically lower than the MR tho
Even if more controllable e.t.c
odd lotus
Wonder what the accuracy difference is if there is one 🤔
@robust urchin
robust urchin
Don't remember off the top of my head
odd lotus
Cause HR long range is like 50/50
robust urchin
Plus I haven't been able to play this event (nor the new weapons) so take my analysis with a grain of salt until I get a chance to play around with them lol
odd lotus
Rifle fast DMR go "PTFssshhhaaaa"
inner ivy
A lot of AS complaints seem to come down to players not liking lower skilled players actually having a way to sometimes hit or kill them at sniper distance.
odd lotus
The feeling that its a low skill crutch weapon
And perhaps that feeling isn't entirely wrong...
inner ivy
"low skill crutch weapon"
Sounds like a fancy way of saying they don't like low skilled players to have any kind of chance.
odd lotus
"low skill crutch weapon"
Sounds like a fancy way of saying they don't like low ...
Chance yes. But chance with a crutch? Less so.
Being able to near match the ability of a skilled player with a lot greater ease leans into a territory that should not be explored
By design it is a crutch.
That you cannot argue with
inner ivy
I don't agree with your claim that they can near match the ability of a skilled player with a lot greater ease.
I think it simply gives them some reach where they had none before.
The real OP menace in the game is the sniper rifle.
I'd take out both the sniper and the AS...but with the sniper being there, I'm all for the current version of the AS existing with it.
odd lotus
I don't agree with your claim that they can near match the ability of a skilled ...
Unless they're at 500m out being camping cowards
As per usual
In a duel? Sniper. CqC? Sniper. Mid to long range? Sniper
But low skilled camping? AS.
inner ivy
I have honestly never experienced a problem with low skilled AS users.
Not saying it doesn't happen, but I have a hard time imagining it is a frequent or big problem...but I avoid a lot of map/mode combinations I don't like, so...
...and if it is happening more in those contexts, I'd probably be more inclined to blame the map.