Change vehicle scope mechanics slightly | War Brokers | Page 1

cedar tapir Nov 14, 2024, 6:42 PM

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When aquiring a ADS on a enemy player (in a tank mainly). Scoping in whilst the turret is turning locks your aim to where the turret was at that second. Which is a bit jarring and rather annoying if you missclick and can kill you in a CqC scenario e.t.c.

Suggested change: Do a warthunder. Scoping in gives you a scope view, but the reticle inside the scope is "free to move". So the black edges are completely removed. Your camera stays pointed at where you were looking in the scope as the reticle for the tank pulls into view

Hard to explain ill try find a example

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui3kT8nvjyI 7:30 ish in this shows it off

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last gate Nov 14, 2024, 6:56 PM

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when we have to watch in the vid ?

cedar tapir Nov 14, 2024, 6:57 PM

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7:30 roughly

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Mainly shows the reticle moving indipenantly to the camera

elfin acorn Nov 14, 2024, 7:19 PM

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so you mean basically, the whole reticle is attached to the scope itself, i.e. there is no sloppy movement like the original tank in WB?

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oh nvm i see what you mean

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i like that actually

last gate Nov 14, 2024, 10:25 PM

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cedar tapir Mainly shows the reticle moving indipenantly to the camera

locked on the tank ?

cedar tapir Nov 14, 2024, 10:25 PM

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last gate locked on the tank ?

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last gate Nov 14, 2024, 10:27 PM

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cedar tapir Mainly shows the reticle moving indipenantly to the camera

i don't see what that mean

lunar aspen Nov 14, 2024, 11:38 PM

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so

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what you're saying is

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flip the roles

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so now make the green circle stationary and move everything else

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nty

cedar tapir Nov 14, 2024, 11:40 PM

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lunar aspen so now make the green circle stationary and move everything else

No.....

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Other way round

lunar aspen Nov 14, 2024, 11:41 PM

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that's what already happens

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if it's other way around

cedar tapir Nov 14, 2024, 11:42 PM

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lunar aspen that's what already happens

Except of the issue I talked about

lunar aspen Nov 14, 2024, 11:42 PM

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which is

cedar tapir Nov 14, 2024, 11:43 PM

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You know WT tanking doncha

lunar aspen Nov 14, 2024, 11:43 PM

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I don't play War Thunder

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I tried in 2016

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nope

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tried in 2021

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this time was the Steam version

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nope

cedar tapir Nov 14, 2024, 11:44 PM

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cedar tapir https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui3kT8nvjyI 7:30 ish in this shows it off

7:30

lunar aspen Nov 14, 2024, 11:44 PM

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I watched that

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you have a circle in the middle that shows where you are desiring to aim

cedar tapir Nov 14, 2024, 11:44 PM

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Wait

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Omg

lunar aspen Nov 14, 2024, 11:44 PM

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and the crosshair moves to the circle, showing where the aim of the gun is actually at

cedar tapir Nov 14, 2024, 11:45 PM

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Forgot wich bit was green lol

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My bad

lunar aspen Nov 14, 2024, 11:45 PM

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mhm

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so it's opposite to what WB does

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for those that need a reference

cedar tapir Nov 14, 2024, 11:46 PM

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Yh you were right the first time my bad

lunar aspen Nov 14, 2024, 11:47 PM

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I much prefer the circle showing where the gun is aimed as it allows me to use the crosshair to aim at players

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the circle then shows where along the gun has moved to

cedar tapir Nov 14, 2024, 11:47 PM

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lunar aspen for those that need a reference

So this, but when you scoped in the camera wouldn't "lock" when you scoped as it does now.

cedar tapir Nov 14, 2024, 11:47 PM

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lunar aspen I much prefer the circle showing where the gun is aimed as it allows me to use t...

Ok

lunar aspen Nov 14, 2024, 11:47 PM

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and because it's somewhat large it doesn't feel like pinpoint accuracy

cedar tapir Nov 14, 2024, 11:47 PM

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We are not on the same page

lunar aspen Nov 14, 2024, 11:47 PM

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so when spread gets involved... doesn't feel off

cedar tapir Nov 14, 2024, 11:48 PM

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Very not on the same page

lunar aspen Nov 14, 2024, 11:48 PM

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rewatched and I still fail to see what I am understanding wrong

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the video shows the circle is locked

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your camera is locked

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the reticle with the black border moves

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it doesn't pan directly to the aim of course, rather moving up and down a bit as it makes its way to where you are trying to aim

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but it moves around as it adjusts around with sway

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you're not saying to add sway to tank aim though

cedar tapir Nov 14, 2024, 11:54 PM

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cedar tapir Very not on the same page

The red cross hair is locked to the camera. Scoping whilst the turret is turning keeps your camera in the same direction you were looking. Instead of stopping turret rotation.

Green circle is where the barrel is aiming currently.

So see player. Scope. Cross hair is INSTANTLY where your point of camera was. Then the green circle comes into bearing.

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So scoping in whilst the turret is turning wouldn't stop rotation

cedar tapir Nov 14, 2024, 11:54 PM

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cedar tapir So scoping in whilst the turret is turning wouldn't stop rotation

TLDR this

lunar aspen Nov 14, 2024, 11:55 PM

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what

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the gun moves whether you scope or not

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so I'm going to throw something out

cedar tapir Nov 14, 2024, 11:57 PM

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lunar aspen the gun moves whether you scope or not

Not if its mid turn

lunar aspen Nov 14, 2024, 11:57 PM

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and you tell me if this is what you're saying

cedar tapir Nov 14, 2024, 11:57 PM

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Hang on just a sec please

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Lemme get a better explanation

lunar aspen Nov 14, 2024, 11:57 PM

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you want the aim of ADS to be focused on where the gun was looking and to lock on and not move

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while the aim of the gun is not made automatic

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and YOU control the aim of the gun within that locked view

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meaning if you want to then start shooting behind you that you would have to unscope, look behind you and then ADS behind you after the gun rotated around

lunar aspen Nov 14, 2024, 11:59 PM

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lunar aspen and YOU control the aim of the gun within that locked view

as in, you move the green circle

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instead of the green circle automatically flowing to the middle of the crosshair

cedar tapir Nov 15, 2024, 12:00 AM

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lunar aspen Nov 15, 2024, 12:02 AM

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ok I think I'm confused because it sounds like you're describing something that does happen

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so from my end...

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I'm in a tank on WB

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I suddenly turn 170 degrees and ADS

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the green circle comes over to the crosshair

cedar tapir Nov 15, 2024, 12:03 AM

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lunar aspen I suddenly turn 170 degrees and ADS

In third person specifically

lunar aspen Nov 15, 2024, 12:03 AM

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yeah I turn before I ADS

cedar tapir Nov 15, 2024, 12:03 AM

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Works fine in ADS

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Wha

lunar aspen Nov 15, 2024, 12:04 AM

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here I'll go record I guess because this could be why there's confusion between the two of us

cedar tapir Nov 15, 2024, 12:04 AM

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OK I don't get that.... Not on my end

lunar aspen Nov 15, 2024, 12:04 AM

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cause I'm working off the assumption something already happens

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and trying to figure out the suggestion

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so either I'm remembering wrong and the suggestion was just something I assumed happened already

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which sounds like that's what the suggestion is

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or you've remembererd wrong or had a bug or something

cedar tapir Nov 15, 2024, 12:06 AM

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lunar aspen Nov 15, 2024, 12:07 AM

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ok I do see a difference, but the difference is that if you ADS after it flies over super fast

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whereas if you move while in ADS the gun moves slower

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I'm not getting it locked

cedar tapir Nov 15, 2024, 12:07 AM

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For me its like

lunar aspen Nov 15, 2024, 12:08 AM

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cedar tapir Nov 15, 2024, 12:08 AM

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WHAT

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Breh

lunar aspen Nov 15, 2024, 12:08 AM

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on the third one I do you can slightly see the model spaz

cedar tapir Nov 15, 2024, 12:08 AM

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What

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Completely forgets the OG camera view

cedar tapir Nov 15, 2024, 12:10 AM

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lunar aspen

That's insane though

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I wish I had that fast a swing

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Like....what

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OK I'm bug reporting this when I get chance

lunar aspen Nov 15, 2024, 12:11 AM

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well that explains why I'm so confused on the suggestion

cedar tapir Nov 15, 2024, 12:12 AM

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Bro no wonder

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coronalol

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We were describing 2 different games to each other

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I bet money its a browser issue

lunar aspen Nov 15, 2024, 12:14 AM

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well yeah, here I am working off of how I know the game works, and I'm looking at what the video does different

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and I see a different suggested action

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smh

cedar tapir Nov 15, 2024, 12:14 AM

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cedar tapir I bet money its a browser issue

Mind trying it in browser?

lunar aspen Nov 15, 2024, 12:14 AM

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I can try on browser I guess to see if I get the same result

cedar tapir Nov 15, 2024, 12:14 AM

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Yh.

lunar aspen Nov 15, 2024, 12:14 AM

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if it is then idk if it can be resolved or not

cedar tapir Nov 15, 2024, 12:14 AM

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Darn that's wild tho lol

lunar aspen Nov 15, 2024, 12:14 AM

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because browser is... browser

cedar tapir Nov 15, 2024, 12:15 AM

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Mm. My fear

lunar aspen Nov 15, 2024, 12:15 AM

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they're funny with how the mouse is captured and stuff

cedar tapir Nov 15, 2024, 12:15 AM

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I bet its that

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https://tenor.com/view/the-joker-arkham-city-that-actually-is-pretty-funny-funny-joker-gif-21887750

Tenor

lunar aspen Nov 15, 2024, 12:16 AM

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aha

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yes I get it on browser

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I go 180 degrees or whatever

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ADS

cedar tapir Nov 15, 2024, 12:17 AM

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Darn

lunar aspen Nov 15, 2024, 12:17 AM

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and I stop ADS and I'm looking like 5cm to the right/left

cedar tapir Nov 15, 2024, 12:17 AM

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Yup

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Sometimes it still remembers the third person camera when I stop ADSing

lunar aspen Nov 15, 2024, 12:18 AM

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I wonder if this is part of why some players have said tanks aren't as good as I say they are

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cause I've played them in Steam with easy aim control

cedar tapir Nov 15, 2024, 12:18 AM

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Yh that's a insane advantage

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No wonder tanks struggle against RPGs we can't do a 360 flick headshot

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That's mental

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You just point and click and your current ZOOMS

lunar aspen Nov 15, 2024, 12:19 AM

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yeah I was always confused why players were struggling

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I thought... you just turn and aim at them

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but if browser's not had this luxury then it makes sense

cedar tapir Nov 15, 2024, 12:20 AM

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cedar tapir Nov 15, 2024, 12:21 AM

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lunar aspen I thought... you just turn and aim at them

I'd absolutely smite RPGs if I could do that swear

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Omg

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That's insane XD

turbid skiff Nov 15, 2024, 12:22 AM

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I was gonna say something smart, but once again i could get in trouble glare

lunar aspen Nov 15, 2024, 12:22 AM

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gotta add that to the steam benefits for ?steam now coronalol

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"tank does not suck"

cedar tapir Nov 15, 2024, 12:23 AM

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cedar tapir Nov 15, 2024, 12:23 AM

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lunar aspen "tank does not suck"

That's like. Genuinely insane I'm mind blown

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Lost for words

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No wonder in my vehicle rants we butted heads

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You can flixkshot a tank AHAAA

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🤯

lunar aspen Nov 15, 2024, 12:24 AM

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well that's one benefit to today

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learned about a difference in tank controls

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wonder if that's fixable or not

cedar tapir Nov 15, 2024, 12:25 AM

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lunar aspen wonder if that's fixable or not

If it was a 360 "no black" scope mayybe?

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Oh my days that's mind boggerling

cedar tapir Nov 15, 2024, 12:34 AM

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lunar aspen wonder if that's fixable or not

Should we bug report?

lunar aspen Nov 15, 2024, 12:35 AM

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would be worth raising attenion to

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doubtful if anything can be done for it

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but better to take the chance

cedar tapir Nov 15, 2024, 12:37 AM

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I would but its 00:36 and I'm in bed, mind doing us a favour lol

last gate Nov 15, 2024, 5:02 PM

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lunar aspen

uh ?

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that happend to the MG turret too

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when u scope

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and happend so many times to me with the UFO

lunar aspen Dec 8, 2024, 12:56 PM

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oh btw Steam or not doesn't matter for APC

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the instant snap only happens for Tanks if you are Steam

last gate Dec 8, 2024, 1:41 PM

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humm ok intresting

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