#Nerf G3 (It renders most weapons obsolete in their optimal ranges)

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modest vector
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I don't have any statistical data to provide concerning the DPS, effective range, etc regarding this weapon, but from my qualitative and fairly subjective observation is that this weapon renders most weapons obsolete. I believe it's effective range should be tweaked to adjust the weapon to be fit for a niche purpose, rather than a superior AR. To me, it outperforms the hunting, auto-sniper, lmg, ar, ak, and scar at their respective optimal ranges which is quite frankly appalling to see. It's very accurate, the rate of fire is generous and it's recoil is more than forgiving, not to mention it's solid range and stealth when it comes to audio (it's a very quiet weapon). It's achilles heel is the relatively low ammo capacity. It's capable at almost all ranges (except for sniping range) and is a decent choice even in comparison to the ak, ar, vek, smg, ak smg, vss, pump shotgun, tac shotgun and crossbow at close range.

That's my two cents.

solid orbit
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Yh this is a duplicate. But after using it in ZDC the recoil is nothing XD

modest vector
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I didn't see any suggestions concerning the g3

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I must be blind then

solid orbit
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Hmm. Feel like I've seen a G3 suggested nerf

modest vector
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the recoil is laughable

modest vector
real canopy
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No

solid orbit
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Ahh welp.

I'm here before plok comes with 10,000 words. Enough statistical maths to kill a NASA engineer.

solid orbit
modest vector
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I look forward to it, saves me the hassle of doing so myself Disgust

real canopy
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Watching the World Series now

bitter plaza
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#1254968030371381259 message

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This is a duplicate

modest vector
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Again, I missed it

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leave it to plague to delete the thread if necessary

bitter plaza
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No worries I am just adding a link so we have quick access to the second one

solid orbit
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I think

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As a once sentence summary

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The general consensus is:

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"Whilst the G3 is highly effective, its lower mag count and other cons are enough to keep it from completely outclassing everything."

modest vector
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The biggest issue is the range

solid orbit
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#1254968030371381259 message however

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This is "fixed" now

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So the only downsides are:

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Hipfire.
20 mag.

modest vector
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very easy downsides to work with

solid orbit
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Yes. I agree

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Plok is asleep enni

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Can't ping him

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Anyways

solid orbit
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I genuinely think that the only reason to not use it against any other rifle is that
A. You like suppressing fire
B. Can't handle the recoil
C. Can't aim with irons at CqC distance

median topaz
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I didn’t use it today bc I genuinely forgot it existed coronalol

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And I honestly prefer the AR and AK

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and those two guns are right there when I first open my inventory to change weapons

solid orbit
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And no that's not a "why not use the better weapon uuuuhhh🤓"

ebon dust
ebon dust
solid orbit
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Mm. Fair

ebon dust
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I should really try the g3 tho

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Give it a chance ya know

modest vector
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I changed my mind, the hipfire is also very good

solid orbit
solid orbit
ebon dust
solid orbit
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And that's from the guy already using the long range high recoil "rifle"

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(Well. Mini has worse recoil than the G3 IMO. But no idea how true that is)

ebon dust
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What’s the best method to use it effectively

modest vector
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I'm starting to find its hipfire better than the ak

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probably due to the damage

solid orbit
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Is it actually better than the AKs? Or just feels that way?

modest vector
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Just feels that way

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maybe I'm jaded, but it seems to have a slight pattern

solid orbit
solid orbit
modest vector
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I'm generally not one to complain about weapons

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such as the scar, I remember many complained about it being op, it in fact has always been balanced

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this weapon is a bit of an anomaly

solid orbit
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Basically all weapon categories in one.

modest vector
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even works against vehicles

solid orbit
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Yh

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That? I was not expecting to be a bug

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We all thought it was a balance thing

median topaz
solid orbit
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Right....

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Honestly expected that as a answer lol

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Most of the player base seems to be "back to meta"

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Whatever "meta" is now

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Apparently not the G3 according to EU

median topaz
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Well ive also gotten tired using the g3

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And I like to play with variety

modest vector
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Personally, I like the weapon

median topaz
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So for the past couple days ive been using the AR/AK as opposed to the “meta” loadout

modest vector
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it suits me well, I perform well when using it

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but it disrupts the system too much

solid orbit
modest vector
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Make use of the vss

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underrated weapon

median topaz
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Im also a medal grinder

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Just really slow

solid orbit
modest vector
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minigun is effective

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hunting rifle is a sad case

solid orbit
# median topaz Bruh

DW about it. Just been a loooonngg while since I've used meta. I just dislike having smt "normal". E.g VSS+.50 is " too normal " for me

modest vector
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50 cal is in an even worse position

solid orbit
solid orbit
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We are talking about overall use by the community.... Right?

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Like the LMG is in a worse position in your eyes

modest vector
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lmg, hunting, 50 cal and minigun are all slept on

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although, the hunting is not as useful as the lmg and minigun

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and the 50 cal really struggles, requires much skill to use effectively

solid orbit
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NGL mate

modest vector
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it's a poor anti armour weapon

solid orbit
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Sounds like a skill issue to me

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No offence

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They are all incredible, and balanced.

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Just under appreciated and under utilized. That's all

modest vector
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I have no issue using the 50 cal, but a minigun simply gets the job done better

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in almost every way possible

solid orbit
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But this is massively off topic

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We should move to a different channel

hazy cape
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"To me, it outperforms the hunting, auto-sniper, lmg, ar, ak, and scar at their respective optimal ranges... It's capable at almost all ranges (except for sniping range)..."

So does it outperform the Auto Sniper or not? Auto Sniper is optimal for longer ranges where the G3A3 has big damage drop. You admit it doesn't work that far out, but said it outperforms Auto Sniper in its optimal range...
Which is it?

hazy cape
modest vector
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auto-sniper to me works more effectively as a hunting rifle

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call it medium range

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it's somewhere between medium and long

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put it this way, I can effectively snipe players across skull island

solid orbit
hazy cape
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all good

hazy cape
modest vector
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well, the fact it can compete with such weapons

hazy cape
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Hunting shoots about twice as fast, so the Hunting easily beats the Auto Sniper

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Auto Sniper to become optimal and not be competing with other weapons needs you to generally be 400m out

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the 400m to 600m range that most sniping does not go beyond, because why do you need to be sniping 800 to 1000m away... most maps don't even allow those ranges

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the G3's mag capacity impacts a lot for how you can fight multiple players at once, and being able to hold angles

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the G3 is high risk high reward

modest vector
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the auto sniper argument was flawed, but my point general point stands

hazy cape
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super powerful

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great outcome

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but increases risk in return and leaves you more exposed

modest vector
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fair point

hazy cape
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unfortunately the vehicle damage was added, it should not have been

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I felt it was better to add another drawback like that

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the hipfire is also high spread, so when some people say the SMG family can be met evenly it really isn't because the true CQC ranges rely on hipfire a lot

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plus the mag sizes yet again

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the lack of a scope makes it harder to hold an accurate line of fire at range

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weapons get balanced by that

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no scope means more damage with range

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an AR will be easier to land 4 head shots with than the skill needed to hold the G3 at that range

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within the closer medium ranges the heads aren't too small and with its recoil it's fairly easy to land the shots

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but you're not really taking advantage of the G3 for those ranges

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because the assault rifles still easily threaten players there

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so to outclass them and be a real threat you're wanting to be further out

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all in all it's balanced really well if vehicle damage is removed

modest vector
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Is there any data on the dps

hazy cape
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wiki would be place to look

modest vector
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righto

median topaz
rare swan
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Prepare to be-

Oh, you've already been Plok-A-Tized...
Darn i was too late

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but im here for the G3 downfall so take my upvote

solid orbit
rare swan
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Bruh i told you why 😂

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I want to see the g3 's downfall

solid orbit
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Not you ya dingus

ebon dust
ebon pier
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the g3a3 needs to not get nerfed. it has no scope, absurd recoil, next to no vehicle damage, and a micro sized magazine.

median topaz
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The g3 is arguably the best gun in the game rn and it outclasses all rifles 💀

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Its not even a contest

ebon pier
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but the ar and scar get scopes. but the scar has double capacity. but the ar can equip the 100 round drum.

solid orbit
solid orbit
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Ofc not a flat out laser

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But far from "just useless" at a certain range+

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(And guess what? You can tapfire it like a DMR)

spark dune
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We're talking about a slightly closer-ranged LMG with SMG damage

solid orbit
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The ranges recoil will completely take your shot off target you can just tap fire

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Recoil is probrably not the defacto balance counter