New Guns

[serene surge]

We already kinda have some of these niches

Or have been talked about

[fading spindle]

Flamethrowers have been rejected for gameplay and performance reasons.

For reference as to what is already coming down the pipeline we have:

• 2 SMGs
• 1 pistol
• 1 rifle
• 4 melees
• 1 shotgun

Also worth noting is that for weapons to be added, they need to fall into a niche that is not taken up by other weapons – i.e. they need to have their strengths and weaknesses when compared to the other loadout options available. For example, the AK is very strong in cqc/close range, but damage quickly drops once you engage targets which are farther away; the AR works well in midrange with a high rate of fire, while the LMG works better with longer targets (out of the three), but sacrifices in fire rate.

Just something to think about when you're considering balancing @proud cargo

[serene surge]

i feel like joja still is wanting a full on LMG

not a BAR

not "well it is a LMG, but not the best at LMG things" a full on SAW M249 75 rounds of pure death

[terse hearth]

Also it kind of crosses the line of what’s humane. Not saying guns are, but I would much rather die from being shot a few times than from being burnt to death. I believe JoJa himself has stated this (or something similar) as one of the reasons flamethrowers and other incendiary weapons are rejected.

[serene surge]

warcrimes and chainsaws

ok thats a sick name for a band im saving that

[serene surge]

yh burning is one of the most common worse ways to go

any type of buring

counting radation here, id say long term radiation sickness is worse, but thats not smt most people can manage to do

[burnt egret]

can some people educate me on some of the guns listed, idk every single one of thew,

[terse hearth]

Personally I went for something more simplistic and calm-inducing for my band name, but that’s just me

[terse hearth]

Absolutely. Burning alive is the most pain a human person can experience according to most sources.

[fading spindle]

That is what I was referring to with "gameplay"

[serene surge]

Stand too close to a bonfire for what it feels like, primal fear and ur head SCREAMING get away

[terse hearth]

Ah, I thought you just meant it would be unbalanced (whether benefiting or disadvantaging the wielder)

[terse hearth]

Uh

Okay

[vale tangle]

Rotting from the inside out…

Tis possible..

[graceful wind]

Yeah... for the general idea of adding more weapons there are more weapons coming. That's settled. For all these specific cases, there are too many to specifically approve or deny any... this leads to the point on one suggestion per suggestion.

As stated above, all flame type weapons are blacklisted.

[burnt egret]

Black Hole grenades!

[graceful wind]

In future, I would very very highly recommend that you read the How To Give A Suggestion example thread, and read the post guidelines.

[jovial pecan]

so implosion grenade but more op

[graceful wind]

If there is a specific weapon you were to want, we'd ask for supporting info on how it might balance and why we need it in the current pool of weapons.

[burnt egret]

uh

hm

didn't think of that

uh instakill

AH

[serene surge]

Ha radiation go Brrrrr

[full bison]

I was thinking that an rpk would be fun, but then I remembered that it would not be much different from the ak except for having longer range, more power, and more rounds

and be a little heavier

but everyone loves a Kalashnikov, right?

[serene surge]

If we want different gun route RPK

like the tyac not being a spaz 12

but if it was just the most LMG LMG then its a 249 no competition

[full bison]

It would definitely be different enough from the current LMG (the BAR), being lighter (a little over half the weight loaded) and having a slightly higher rate of fire, while also having less range and doing less damage with its 5.56 by 45 NATO cartage having less mass and therefore less kinetic energy.

[serene surge]

But AP is best against a broker

[near ingot]

all for it

[proud cargo]

dying of acute radiation syndrome is just your body dissolving...not a fun way to go

[frank quiver]

kinda curious on what the stats of the boomerang might be

might be a bit to good in cqc maps