React to messages for everyone/all channels

[flat rampart]

2 in 1:
Reactions for everyone enabled:

Give everyone, including non-veterans, permissions to add reactions in all channels. There is no real reason why it is disabled. No real danger would be there, if it's enabled.

Reactions in all channels:

Channels where the community is active in, such as#playing-now or #general-chat have disabled reactions. I understand that #leaders have them disabled, but why the channels?
Additionally #📢announcements or #📋changelog can get a ✅ from @teal shale automatically when a new message is posted there, just to give the community the ability to react there, since I can imagine enabled reactions may look it cluttered or whatever.

[tropic blaze]

I agree, they should be allowed in those suggested channels. We could actually even use a "gg's"- emoji

[flat rampart]

Was thinking about that while typing that 😄

[tropic blaze]

Great minds think alike

[lucid crypt]

I agree. The only reason why its only for vets I can think of is because people might spam reactions to any, if not every post. Which might be annoying.

But I think that might happen occasionally, because I haven't seen such things happen often on other servers. Besides, we have mods to take care of that.

[flat rampart]

I think it's possibly to shrink the max cap of reactions like you can only react once to a message

[outer zealot]

👍

[radiant mural]

1 reaction per message, 3 emojis per message.

4

Ok 4 emojis Max

[surreal cliff]

there are also some inappropriate emojis, or ones that can be used in an inappropriate context, that I believe was one of the reasons only veterans have those perms

[flat rampart]

How about its available for everyone but Veterans are allowed to remove inappropriate reactions?
Since its the "manage-messages" permission which needs to be enabled, there is need of certain trust the staff have to have in Veterans.
Maybe the staff should first have selected members which have the ability to do so.
Testing it out won't damage anything brutally.

[lucid crypt]

Yeah. Well. I still think the rule indeed can be lifted. But the reasons why its only for vet is something I understand as well.

Speaking for myself, I don't mind if reactions is for everyone, or for vets only. Both has pros and cons.

[tropic coral]

but the mods can just address the few people who might try that

[idle fern]

Manage Messages is a terrible perm to allow non-staff members to have

while it would allow people to remove bad reactions, they could also remove ANY reactions they pleased and none would be the wiser

they could pin any messages they felt like

remove old pins and none would be the wiser

delete messages

that one would at least be logged... but only to a degree

there are messages not logged that could be maliciously deleted

_ _
It has been left to only veterans due to a trust factor. Just as vets have earned the trust to be good with other forms of media.

One of the larger concerns is that unlike messages, reactions are not filtered or logged.

It is very easy to sneak in messages using the letter emojis and none would be the wiser.

[raven rapids]

Perhaps something exceeding veteran, then

Such as a “Junior Moderator” or such

Just people who are trusted enough not to abuse their perms and actually benefit the community

I could think of a few candidates of the top of my head

[lucid crypt]

After what Plague stated. I think indeed that not everyone should be allowed to add reactions and keep it to vets only.
I still agree with Nandy that this permission for vets should also be available for more channels like #general-chat .

"Junior moderators" sounds a bit off and confusing. Sounds like having permissions to mini-mod.

[idle fern]

could someone compile a list of channels they can't react to?

[flat rampart]

Sure😃

[lucid crypt]

@flat rampart ^^ you got a job to do

Im slow again

[flat rampart]

If you don't want to do it 👀

[lucid crypt]

Lets say, its your suggestion. So your job 👀

[flat rampart]

Oki 👀

#playing-now
#general-chat
#asset-discussion
#wiki-contributions
#542135042969698314
#408033020013182982
#581673106662359041

All other channels shouldn't have the option

[blissful hollow]

use dyno to stop this behavior

[flat rampart]

You could simply stop using 🍆 as reaction with blacklisting it as reaction. Nearly same way as blocking users from reacting at all

[blissful hollow]

yeah

[raven rapids]

It was a bad name. I just meant it as a concept.

[raven rapids]

That and 💦

People are terrible

[blissful hollow]

haha i agree

[crimson plaza]

The reason limitations were added to reactions was because some people would go to old posts and add inappropriate reactions or words using reactions. That made it very difficult to moderate since essentially every day every existing post would need to be looked at if you wanted to catch everything.

[flat rampart]

We do not talk about adding them to older messages, we want them in the right channels

[raven rapids]

A fix for this would just be using Dyno to limit both the amount of reactions per message (I’d say 3 is fine) and which reactions can be used, disallowing ones that people typically interpret inappropriately.

There have been some examples in this channel already.

[crimson plaza]

How do you disallow specific reaction emoji?

[raven rapids]

I thought that was possible through Dyno?

There are other emojis that I will not mention here that should be disallowed as well

If it is in fact possible

[flat rampart]

Looking for a solution. It is kinda the same as BBot does not allow multiple reactions by the same user

[raven rapids]

Yes; I wonder if BrokerBot could even be programmed to accomplish these tasks?

Hi Vince

:)

[lucid crypt]

Dyno can't do that.. You might be able to do that with BBot, but I think it might be a pain to make such a filter.

[raven rapids]

I swear Dyno had that ability

Huh

I know nothing about coding myself, though I have tried to learn

[lucid crypt]

But I still agree that some more channels should be open for leaving reactions. See replied message ^^

[flat rampart]

Custom commands work always

[raven rapids]

I think Wiki contributions is kind of a null point

[flat rampart]

"If user reacts with emoji XYZ, remove this reaction"

basically the code

[lucid crypt]

Custom commands does not work like that

[raven rapids]

If it’s that simple, it shouldn’t be that hard

[flat rampart]

Custom commands in BBot 👀

not Dyno

[raven rapids]

@crimson plaza I DMed you a listed if emojis I think should be disallowed, if possible

[flat rampart]

Dyno is meh

[lucid crypt]

1 possibility will be to create commands that leaves a reaction to a certain post. But I think it's quite messed up to do something like that.
for example: ;react :smiley: <message ID here>
which leaves a 😃 to the message with that ID

Not sure if that will be possible with dyno. As far as I know, you can not make commands to add reactions to messages.

This way, you will be able to allow only a specific amount of decent emojis

[flat rampart]

if its .js this line is the key:

message.reactions.cache.get('123456789012345678').remove()
    .catch(error => console.error('Failed to remove reactions:', error));

Simply inserting the specific emoji's id and et volia

😄 a specific amount of decent emojis

I wonder which language BBot is made with 👀
I would bet .js

[lucid crypt]

Can be multiple..

[flat rampart]

true

[lucid crypt]

Imo. lets start with the channels first. and vets only :P

[blissful hollow]

3 is a good number

[blissful hollow]

Huh

[raven rapids]

This exists, as I have just learned. Does that not single-handedly solve the problem in terms of moderation? Allow veterans to react everywhere.

[flat rampart]

🤔

[sand cradle]

How do you blacklist reactions? Never heard of that being a thing. Not doubting you or anything, I’m curious

Oh nvm I read down

[sand cradle]

Agreed