best server hoster to get?

[vital orchid]

and cheap

[spring fossil]

imo modern hosting is the best unless you want to use a VPS

Lyhme is also pretty good

[vital orchid]

thx

[sick tangle]

It’s either good or it’s cheap

[fathom holly]

I know guy

[spark escarp]

Why is that?

Game servers are cheaper

[prisma chasm]

Is PingPerfect any good? I thought Lyhme went out of business? I’ve used GTX and Lhyme in the past and they had no issues with either

[silver wing]

Nodecraft has amazing 24/7 support and they r extremely cheap

i fr sounded like i was sponsored

[silk trellis]

Lyhme came back into business not to long ago with new locations and hardware

[prisma chasm]

Ok good I liked having their servers

[molten tusk]

pretty sure they also switched over to ptero

[kind pulsar]

ass support

[silver wing]

how

[kind pulsar]

no i mean the zombies stop when you make a update in sql

[molten tusk]

that sounds a lot like a plugin issue

[kind pulsar]

no

did a uscript one

[molten tusk]

doesn't change anything

if it can't be replicated in vanilla...

[kind pulsar]

well it has been months since i switched to modern

this thing #hosting-archived message

its nodecrafts fault

sorry but this is my experience on them

(I bought cheapest one what u expect lol)

[tender peak]

I use wyvern

Pretty good

[kind pulsar]

Looks like a sponsor

[tender peak]

Nah

[kind pulsar]

lol okay

hosts depend if its cheap or perform well

[tender peak]

Wdym wyvern is cheap and performs well

Modern may be better but for someone who is starting out wyvern is the way to go because you won’t be paying an arm and a leg

Furthermore it’s 100x better just to buy your own tower and host a server on there. It will save you loads of money in the long run

[kind pulsar]

Its 10 dollars...

[tender peak]

But personally wyvern is the way to go it has a great panel and very fast support if you were to run into any problems

[kind pulsar]

7 for gravelines

[tender peak]

For one of the most basic

For 4gb of ram and 1cpu core you could maybe have 2-3 players on with minor lag

Compared to wyverns 12 a month with 6gb of ram and 3 cores which is way better

Honestly though I’ve run servers on both modern and wyvern they both act pretty similar. But have there own advantages and disadvantages but personally I would go with Wyvern.

[kind pulsar]

Well its fine tho

Your choice

[molten tusk]

... What?

a single vcore and 4GB of RAM is plenty for a lot of players assuming you don't have a large modpacks

U3DS is pretty much entirely single-threaded

for example: 100 players on A6 Polaris (no plugins/other mods)

and not a single complaint about lag

Even a single vcore of CPU isn't going to get exhausted with 50+ players unless you have complex plugins/etc. and 4GB of RAM is enough for pretty much anything except large modpacks

Honestly, I have to question whether you have any idea about the requirements

it has a great panel
Also, as you should know, pretty much everyone is using a variation of ptero, they're pretty much all the same

just checked and wyvern is definitely using ptero, just as modern

they didn't change the pterodactyl icon on their panel site

[fierce steeple]

Do you think I'll be fine hosting 2 vanilla (with some plugins) Servers with 8 GB of Ram

[tender peak]

Yes

[fierce steeple]

Even with like both servers 24/ 24?

[tender peak]

Yeah

[molten tusk]

That'd be plenty

[fierce steeple]

Okay good to know, thanks 🙏

[molten tusk]

of course assuming that when you say 8 GB you mean that there's 8GB available

[fierce steeple]

yeah

[molten tusk]

for example if you wanted to selfhost 2 servers on your own PC with 8GB of RAM that probably wouldn't be a good idea

[fierce steeple]

and VPSß

would it even be problematic on a VPS

well technically yeah, right?

or let's say

how much could I host with 16 gb?

[molten tusk]

assuming it's using a version of linux server I'd say no

unless you have a lot of mods that is

[fierce steeple]

only plugins for semi vanilla

[molten tusk]

but as I mentioned it should be fine with your configuration

[fierce steeple]

ok thx I'll just try it out 🙏

if not, I'll just upgrade to 16 gb :D

[molten tusk]

per this image, which is from one of my servers, the server was only using 1.6GB of RAM at 100 players

[fierce steeple]

damn

okay so I should be fine as hell

[molten tusk]

generally you're much more limited by CPU vs. RAM

[fierce steeple]

ah

cpu usage at 8%

[molten tusk]

for example my server is currently using 75% total CPU but only a bit over 26GB of RAM

[tender peak]

I don’t believe that

[molten tusk]

If you have statistics that disprove mine do provide them

[tender peak]

🤷‍♂️

[molten tusk]

none of my servers, per both my panel's and system statistics, currently use over 1.9GB of RAM

[sick tangle]

I have hit 4 to 5 GB on vanilla servers due to leaks, we basically never restarted tho

Realistically 2 is plenty

[molten tusk]

yeah not restarting will increase usage over time

my servers are restarted daily

[molten tusk]

this is idle usage for comparison

*CPU load, of course, represents % of a thread

140% aka what the load was with 100 players, is ~1.4 threads of a ryzen 5 3600

idle usage is <0.65 threads

top of my actual server

each line with unturned_headless represent a single unturned server, not everything is pictured

[tender peak]

Ok I believe you now

Realistically you only need one core to run a server

[molten tusk]

If I'm not misremembering my stats also line up fairly well with what Mo (from Modern Hosting) has observed

[molten tusk]

well, as we can see from certain cases two threads can be useful even in vanilla and certainly with multithreaded plugins

usually one is enough for smaller/less complex servers though

I'd be surprised if someone could show active usage that's using more than 2 vcores though

[tender peak]

But is would like to suggest hosting servers on a dedicated machine. Because it’s way better than renting.

[molten tusk]

well, if you want to host many servers sure

generally a VPS is the cheapest actual option (no, I don't count selfhosting on your own hardware ) for single servers while dedis have much better value for hosting many servers instead of one

of course hosting services provide convenience and support which hold value as well, just not for everyone

[fierce steeple]

@molten tusk do you know what I need for the A6 Polaris Map

[molten tusk]

not counting in plugins you're looking at 1.4-1.6GB of RAM and 65-145% CPU

*cpu eqv. of a ryzen 5 3600

lower figure is vanilla at 0 players, higher figure is vanilla at 100 players

not counting in system resource usage, just the server alone

[tender peak]

They may hold convenience and support but learning how to use a basic dedicated server and learning how to fix your problems without any support can be best in some cases.

You can easily host a 4gb 1 core server just fine and it would be a lot cheap in the long run

[molten tusk]

it's not that much money either way

[tender peak]

Yeah true but at least you have it

[vital orchid]

I think lyhme’s the best

I’ve used Lyhme, Modern, pine and GTX and Lyhme’s been my favorite by far

It’s a bit more expensive then let’s say GTX but in my opinion the panel is much easier to use and they have a better support team

[still spade]

Bro stop hating 😭

💀

[molten tusk]

Sometimes I wonder whether certain folks just search the discord for mentions of them or their things

[still spade]

I usually search Wyvern for when I'm posting the advertisement, but honestly I've seen the guy saying something about wyvern a couple of times now

And I'm 90% sure he's never even used it, just a modern fan boy

[molten tusk]

I wouldn't be surprised either way also this of course doesn't just apply to you (although I've certainly noticed you do this a few times)

[still spade]

Yeah I just happen to search wyvern when posting ads so I usually see messages on the topic, I don't usually reply but this guy grinds my gears since he's always got something to say despite never even touching Wyvern to have a valid opinion

🤷

[kind pulsar]

I said its a sponsor. Have i said its shit?

[fathom holly]

I. Know guy

@vital orchid

Just dm so_er#1744

[sick tangle]

Lol

[still spade]

Not in this particular instance, however you've hinted at such in the past

[clear condor]

when apple hosting

[kind pulsar]

Only 50$/mo for 10 players and 4 cpu core and 4 gb ram!!!!!!!!!!

[clear condor]

siuuuuuuuuu

[fierce steeple]

💀

[molten tusk]

I mean you could use apple servers

*for hosting in general, not for U3

for example Hetzner does have them

*prices excl. taxes

[kind pulsar]

lmao

LMFAO

VPS?

[molten tusk]

They're dedis and pretty much just there for developing software for apple products