which hosting websites have the best console

[fresh storm]

which hosting websites have the best console

[ancient coyote]

Most are very similar. I would recommend LyhmeHosting or Modern Hosting for a Host.

[fresh storm]

What is better rocket mod or open mod

[ancient coyote]

Its prefrence to be honest. OpenMod is newer and much more stable then RM. OM receives updates unlike RM.

You can run both RM and OM together though

[elfin pine]

Why do you dislike pine?

[ancient coyote]

There has been many times where there support could not fix a simple issue. Which does say alot about a Hosting Company. When people who come from Pine and switch over to Modern or Lyhme.

[zinc fox]

You also have to pay for more slots 💀

[scarlet wadi]

Almost everyone has the exact same console and the exceptions to that rule generally have considerably worse ones

[zinc fox]

Jo.....g

[signal viper]

Or Wyvern hosting!

So good

[digital marlin]

or Sparked :D

[shy kettle]

I bet your family is held hostage

[shy kettle]

Can do if you're at a budget

[digital marlin]

I have the cheaper Enterprise plan, which cost 6$/month and it's performance it's really good

[shy kettle]

Can it handle mods?

[digital marlin]

yep

well, mods depends on the amount of ram

[shy kettle]

AdvancedZones
AirdropManager
AppleShutdownTimer
CallVote
CopiedLobbyMess
Duty EasyAmmo
ExtraRestrictor
FeexRanks
ForceDrop
InfoRestorer
MetadataTesting
MoreHomes
RFClothingModifier
RFGarage
RFPocketResizer
RFStorageModifier
SpawnPermissions
TebexUnturned
Teleportation
Uconomy
uEssentials
VoteRewards
WebsiteCommand
WreckingBall

Now?

[digital marlin]

bruh those are plugins, not mods. plugins are lighter than mods (workshop)

of course it can handle all of that, and performance won't be affected

I have a server on PEI with a lot of plugins hosted on sparked, the cheaper Enterprise plan. And it only uses 7% of cpu on idle, and I even have Openmod and Rocketmod installed at same time

[digital marlin]

oh I just saw the workshop, sorry

well, you should go for the higher plans with more ram. mods are more RAM depending

[shy kettle]

do i calculate how many gb it take to load

[digital marlin]

plugins are cpu

[shy kettle]

example i add arid size+elver size+mod size and so on

because if i remember correctly mods get loaded to ram

[digital marlin]

yes you will require a lot of RAM

[shy kettle]

i have modern hosting host about to expire

have 4gb ram

[digital marlin]

and still, it cost 10$/month and have 6gb ram ddr4 if I'm not wrong

[digital marlin]

it that case you could go for the 8$/month plan which also have 4gb ram ddr4

[shy kettle]

if players explode

can it handle

[digital marlin]

🥚
🫴

can a hand handle an egg? who knows, try yourself XD

[signal viper]

No sir! I am completely healthy, no danger here!

[shy kettle]

real

[scarlet wadi]

Players, not counting issues from inefficient plugins/etc. take about 1GB per 25 players

[fiery musk]

U could go for Jon hosting which is $2 for 4gb

[shy kettle]

hell naw are you serious

[fiery musk]

Yes

[shy kettle]

hell naw

the forums fuckin closed

[fiery musk]

It has a custom panel though so it's slightly harder to get used to

[shy kettle]

limited slots🤮

[fiery musk]

?

[shy kettle]

limited player slot

red flag

[fiery musk]

Unmeterd

U sure ur on the right website?

[scarlet wadi]

by custom panel do you mean the most horrific thing to ever cross the eyes of unsuspecting folk trying to host unturned servers?

[zinc fox]

I mean they only have a single Sweden location 😭

[pseudo heron]

I would hardly call it a website

[fiery musk]

You do realise that every single hosting uses WHMCS which is a billing solution aka website templates/website hosting builder, they all use it because its cheap and it would take either too long or they have no idea how to actually build a website from scratch , but jonny has done it, and he's really proud of himself, he would be disappointed in himself if he used WHMCS and Petorctyal panel, we would no longer be a unique hosting company, so if its hardly a website then let's see what you've made.

[pseudo heron]

I would hardly consider WHMCS cheap, especially at a large scale. You should build a provider around offering your customers the best experience, not just for your own satisfaction, so if that means using pterodactyl rather than a dumpster fire of HTML then I don’t see a problem

Most providers are not unable to physically make custom solutions for their infrastructure, but it would take time, money and resources that could be put to better use elsewhere, not to mention the fact it would likely lack a lot of features that prebuilt solutions (such as WHMCS) offer

I have no problem with Jonny nor his service, just offering some insight on the reasons why most hosts tend to follow similar paths with their panels

[signal viper]

Jonny may have put lots of effort in to John hosting, which he has, credit where due.
However it doesn't make what he's developed good, i'd rather pay more to have a host using ptero and a good billing page.

[fiery musk]

And both of your replies are fine, however he has created the experience of Jonhosting to be as cheap as possible and to make our customers as happy as possible, we make no money whatsoever, we actually have lost hundreds of $ but if that's the cost of making people happy then its worth it, and the reason why he doesn't want to use ptero is because he believes in developing his own programs and websites, and that has made him and his team happy as he is proud of it, so if most people doesn't like what we are doing that is fine, however JonHosting is still the cheapest hosting ever created on unturned and it will remain so.

[fiery musk]

ps: his name is jonny fyi

[signal viper]

WHMCS costs under $20 for 250 clients

[signal viper]

I completely understand him wanted to develop him it's self, this is highly respectable. Although personally, I believe what's best for the owner isn't always best for the customer/consumer.

[wet stirrup]

@fiery musk You probably smell like shit

🐒

💩

[scarlet wadi]

Yeah and ptero is completely free

making anything custom is bound to be more expensive than those

[zinc fox]

to be honest it is indeed cheap lmao, 1.4$ and you can play with your friends

panel also has some custom tools like that aviKits creator thing

[scarlet wadi]

point is, it being cheap has nothing to do with them using their own thing

but apparently something to do with them bleeding money?

WMHCS is, at its most expensive, quite cheap

assuming you have clients in anything but the low double digits the price it adds isn't going to be more than a few cents per client per month

the basic tier, which provides the least value in terms of how many clients you can have to cost, costs less than 10 cents per client if you have at least 190 clients (out of 250)

the next tier up costs less than 10 cents per client if you have at least 300 clients (out of 500)

and for anyone wondering, unless you disable it the service will automatically upgrade if you go over the client limit for these meaning that you don't really need to pay for the higher tier in advance

[scarlet wadi]

Unless we're talking about a scale in wholly different orders of magnitude I'd certainly consider WMHCS cheap

[pseudo heron]

I'm talking about more than 500 active clients

I stand corrected, that's still only $45 a month

[pseudo heron]

How much are you getting paid to do this lmao

Anything less than 3 figures a month and he must have you under a spell or something

[scarlet wadi]

all their public plans follow pretty much the same pricing scheme

double the clients for a little less than double the cost

the cheapest per-client cost would be on the 10k client plan

300 a month for up to 10k clients is very cheap

even the worst case of having just a fraction over 5k clients would still keep the costs at under 6 cents a client per month

[fiery musk]

I am getting paid 0, I don't want any money as I like doing this stuff.

[fiery musk]

I have asked him multiple times to change it to WHMCS and ptero but all the times he has said no as that isn't what he wants to do with the business, so instead of bugging him about it I have just remained calm with what he is doing, and I support everything he does with Jonhosting.

[fiery musk]

Also note I have been doing this with jonhosting for over 3 years, maybe 4 years, its fun marketing his brand, hopefully when I'm older I can help more and more small businesses.

[scarlet wadi]

wait, you're not even paid?

[fiery musk]

Nope

I mean I can claim a free server from jonhosting anytime but its been years since I made a server

But I like making people happy and thats what we do.

[signal viper]

Are u support staff for him??

[scarlet wadi]

for free?

[fiery musk]

I am within the Jonhosting team so I can do support or whatever I feel like honestly, but I am mostly Head of Marketing

[fiery musk]

Yes

[scarlet wadi]

head of marketing isn't a paid position?

[fiery musk]

Hahaha no position is paid, jonny hasn't even paid himself

We make a loss most months so

Impossible, and even if we made anything it would be about $2 each person per month

[scarlet wadi]

a company that just loses money for no apparent reason?

[zinc fox]

Bump the price to $2 \ :v /

[fiery musk]

Yeah we lose money

We've lost hundreds

[zinc fox]

Do y'all just like want to have cheap hosting for casual players or what's the objective

[fiery musk]

The objective is to make people happy and for them to have a server to play with friends whilst covering our upkeep fees.

Or for broke people to have the opportunity to have a server so they can experience that and they couldn't before due to no money.

Ofc if we had WHMCS we would not be able to make it this cheap.

[scarlet wadi]

The objective is to make people happy and for them to have a server to play with friends whilst covering our upkeep fees.
You clearly can't cover that

[fiery musk]

Well some months we can, some months we can't

Most months we can

And honestly it doesn't matter if we can cover it or not, as long as people are happy with our service that's what matters.

A further note: We don't care about money, money is no objective, and it shouldn't be in life, the objective should be to have fun, and we are having fun doing it, and others are having fun using our service.

[scarlet wadi]

which is why you charge enough to cover for those months as well

[fiery musk]

Thank you for your advice but we are going to keep our prices the same

[scarlet wadi]

WHMCS would almost certainly decrease overall cost

you clearly don't have the client volume to make it the worse option

[fiery musk]

WHMCS would make it better honestly

I have told him probably a thousand times

[scarlet wadi]

it's really bizarre though

[fiery musk]

Indeed

[scarlet wadi]

the claim is to make it as cheap as possible yet that comes with the criteria of doing things the hard & more expensive way

[zinc fox]

Does he want to do everything himself?

[fiery musk]

Yes

[zinc fox]

Is he wanting to learn or something

[scarlet wadi]

it's just nonsensical

[zinc fox]

Cuz that's the only reason I'd see for doing that

[fiery musk]

He's learnt enough already lol

[zinc fox]

Ayoo XD

[scarlet wadi]

clearly not

[fiery musk]

Well

On the CSS side of things

But he is a very good coder

[scarlet wadi]

Definitely not on the CSS side

nor the business side

[fiery musk]

Yeah

No managment skills

[zinc fox]

Btw how does the payment work? It took like a day for it to reflect on the panel

[fiery musk]

What do u mean?

[zinc fox]

When you buy a server

[fiery musk]

Ehhhhhhhhhhh

Badly

Not much else to say apart from that

[zinc fox]

[fiery musk]

I honestly wish he used WHMCS and ptero

but theres no telling him

[scarlet wadi]

I bet it's manual

[zinc fox]

Nah to be honest the jonpanel gives him an unique From da-hood vibe

I like it lmfao

[fiery musk]

He's living in 2005

In 2023

[zinc fox]

I'm wondering tho, it's that he has troubles making it the way he wants to look, or he just wants the panel to look like that?

[scarlet wadi]

the reason I went from CLI to ptero was convenience

honestly I wouldn't have made the switch for something on the level of that panel

[zinc fox]

XD

[fiery musk]

Erm I'm not sure

I think he wants it to look like that

[zinc fox]

The thing I kinda liked was the reziseable thing lmao

[fiery musk]

xD

[zinc fox]

Ayo

It says I can buy 64GB for 46/month

Is there a limit?

[fiery musk]

Erm

[zinc fox]

Ah it stops on 67

[fiery musk]

I don't think so, I can ask tho

bruh

I mean idk who wants a server that big XD

[zinc fox]

XD

[zinc fox]

hmm I take it back

It did show my server after a bit

why does the site react so fast if its on europe 💀

[fiery musk]

huh

[echo thicket]

If you host yourself, you'll have the best console possible.

Just saying 👍

[zinc fox]

It can't beat jonhosting console
😤

[scarlet wadi]

selfhost ptero

[zinc fox]

Imagine he gets confused and accidentally makes a panel that puts ptero to shame

[final galleon]

real