Randomizer Mod not working | Subnautica Modding | Page 1

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 5:05 PM

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I only have the Randomizer Remade mod installed and it's dependencies (Nautilus and BepInEx) and it doesn't work for some reason, anyone knows how to fix this? It crashes in the middle of loading a new game.

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 5:37 PM

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If there is anything I can provide to help, please tell me

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Idk if there is any log files or smth that would

cyan nacelle May 10, 2025, 5:46 PM

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There is a log file in your game directory at Subnautica/BepInEx/LogOutput.log, please send that here

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 5:48 PM

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📎 L40I8V9.log

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Does this work? @cyan nacelle

cyan nacelle May 10, 2025, 5:49 PM

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There's no error in here, this one looks like it started up alright?

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 5:49 PM

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It just stopped working idk?

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Like it was loading fine

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And then it just went like "Subnautica stopped working"

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I can try again and get a new log file if you would prefer

cyan nacelle May 10, 2025, 5:50 PM

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Does it keep happening if you try again?

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Yes please

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 5:50 PM

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Because my game only crashes when I have the mod

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 5:50 PM

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cyan nacelle Does it keep happening if you try again?

I tried 3 times only with them

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Earlier, I had a bunch of mods and it all worked fine, but then I put the randomizer in and the game died on the loading screen, then I just deleted everything and reinstalled the game, the problem still persists

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I'll try again, hold on

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My PC is slow af so might take a while

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On my phone now so I can keep tying

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I'm trying again rn

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It froze again

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Same spot

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It died yea

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Wth

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Let me get the log

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Like, it gets to a specific part of loading

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And then dies instantly

cyan nacelle May 10, 2025, 5:58 PM

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if the game managed to write to the log correctly before hanging it should have gotten to just before things start spawning into the world. Can you go into the options, disable everything except random starts, and then try again?

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 6:00 PM

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Options?

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There's options for this mod?

cyan nacelle May 10, 2025, 6:00 PM

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A lot of them actually

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 6:00 PM

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I heard there was but I even had the mod manager installed and I couldn't find them

cyan nacelle May 10, 2025, 6:01 PM

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It's in-game, under Options -> Mods -> Randomiser

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 6:01 PM

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Oh it's in the actual options menu

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That's easier than expected, fair

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Let me take a look

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Just reopened the game

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The spawn wasn't even on

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Let me try with only spawn

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It's loading

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It worked

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Yea it worked

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I'm in

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Weird

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Smth else other than spawns is killing my game instantly

cyan nacelle May 10, 2025, 6:05 PM

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Interesting. So you might have hit on a combination of options that ends up hanging? Though I'm not sure why it would happen

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But that would be the defaults, makes no sense for those to hang

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 6:05 PM

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I had default options, which is the weirder part

cyan nacelle May 10, 2025, 6:05 PM

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yeah

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 6:06 PM

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Maybe because my PC is a weird one

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Aka caveman PC

cyan nacelle May 10, 2025, 6:06 PM

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I made this mod on a pc very similar to yours, it's not that

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 6:06 PM

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Ah

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Oh wait you're the person who made the mod??

cyan nacelle May 10, 2025, 6:06 PM

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ya

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 6:06 PM

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Awesome mod bro, it's awesome

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I just wish I could play it fr LMAO

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I'm gonna quit and test more after I eat lunch, OK??

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I'll ping whenever I'm back

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I'll try and find out what is actually killing my game

cyan nacelle May 10, 2025, 6:07 PM

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let's try to get to that. I'm suspecting the hang could be to do with fragments, so try enabling every module except those

cyan nacelle May 10, 2025, 6:08 PM

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tough harbor I'm gonna quit and test more after I eat lunch, OK??

sure

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 6:08 PM

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cyan nacelle let's try to get to that. I'm suspecting the hang could be to do with fragments,...

Ah sure, I can do that

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I'll try that rn

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I put everything in max on recipes just to test it out

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Aka the stupidest recipes on the planet

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It loaded @cyan nacelle

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It must be the fragments yea

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Only thing that wasn't on and it loaded fine

cyan nacelle May 10, 2025, 6:12 PM

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And if you turn on the fragments, does it start hanging?

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 6:13 PM

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I turned them on again and took off random locations for them

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Maybe it's a specific option on them

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OK IT LOADED

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I'll try with random locations on next

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If it dies we know the issue

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???

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IT LOADED WHAT

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Bro wth 😵‍💫

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Just the default options fucked up ig??

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With no randomized spawn

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Ngl there's no "Go back to default" option so I can't test it

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But for some reason only the default settings died on me @cyan nacelle

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It's working fine now

cyan nacelle May 10, 2025, 6:17 PM

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you could delete the config file in Subnautica/BepInEx/SubnauticaRandomiser.cfg, that'll regenerate a default

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have to restart the game after that for it to happen though

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 6:18 PM

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OK sure, since it's working rn I'll chill and actually go eat

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And then once I come back I'll help you do testing

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transcat

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 6:48 PM

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I just got back and will do more testing

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 6:48 PM

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tough harbor Ngl there's no "Go back to default" option so I can't test it

A suggestion, this could be a very useful feature

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Both for testing and convenience

cyan nacelle May 10, 2025, 6:49 PM

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It would be. I looked into it before, it's unfortunately harder than it sounds because the entire menu was made with the assumption that information only ever flows one way, i.e. from the options you click to the file that is saved. Going the opposite direction is a pain

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 6:50 PM

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Oh fair

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That sucks

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Worth the effort though imo

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Just restarted the options

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Let's see how it goes

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It's back to default

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 6:51 PM

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cyan nacelle It would be. I looked into it before, it's unfortunately harder than it sounds b...

Maybe you could make it so the file changes all options individually instead of having it come back to the original file, which would be harder to get to

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Not sure if that's how it works but it's a small workaround if I use logic

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You would just need to change it to match the default settings if you do ever change them

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OK yea default kills my game

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Let me start changing stuff up

cyan nacelle May 10, 2025, 6:53 PM

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tough harbor Not sure if that's how it works but it's a small workaround if I use logic

Unfortunately not, the options from the file don't even know about the options in the menu. Linking them up is probably doable, but a headache

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 6:53 PM

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tough harbor Not sure if that's how it works but it's a small workaround if I use logic

Like, it works logically in my head at least

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 6:54 PM

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cyan nacelle Unfortunately not, the options from the file don't even know about the options i...

Ah damn

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I turned off the fragments module

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With the default recipe options this time

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Maybe it's smth in the recipe options

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OK it loaded

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It's the fragments I think then

cyan nacelle May 10, 2025, 6:56 PM

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tough harbor OK yea default kills my game

That's honestly just so weird. I'd understand if the randomising itself messed up, but that's just fine. It fails at applying the changes to the game, which should fail consistently, but it doesn't

cyan nacelle May 10, 2025, 6:57 PM

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tough harbor It's the fragments I think then

That fits with the log you sent, it ended (hanged) around the time fragments would have spawned into the world

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 6:57 PM

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I turned it on again with randomized locations off

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 6:57 PM

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cyan nacelle That fits with the log you sent, it ended (hanged) around the time fragments wou...

Yea prob

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 6:57 PM

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tough harbor I turned it on again with randomized locations off

If it loads, then it should be that

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But it's only when counting the default options for some reason

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It loaded

cyan nacelle May 10, 2025, 6:58 PM

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what if you turn on fragments but change up some of their options?

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 6:58 PM

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Fragments are on

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It's the random location

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I'll turn it on again

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Just to make sure

cyan nacelle May 10, 2025, 6:58 PM

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what

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 6:59 PM

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"Fragments spawn in random locations?" ✅

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I think this is what's killing it

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And specifically with the default options

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It loaded?

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Uhhhh

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What

cyan nacelle May 10, 2025, 6:59 PM

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KEKW game

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 7:00 PM

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LMAO IDK ANYMORE

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OK so maybe if I keep default options upon first start??

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Because like

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It looks like it only kills the game at first

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But if I go back and turn it off

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Then it's fine

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But then I turn it on and it's also fine now for some reason?

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I have default options rn and it loaded

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So some bug must be happening upon first starting a game

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Or loading it first with default options

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Which is so awkward?

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Like, you iniciate the game, and just instantly go into loading a world at first

cyan nacelle May 10, 2025, 7:02 PM

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that seems right but makes no sense

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 7:02 PM

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Without changing anything

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 7:02 PM

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cyan nacelle that seems right but makes no sense

It really doesn't

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It's having trouble loading fragments at first which is awkward as hell

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Is there anything you would want me to try or are you like, clueless as to what to test?

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I'm gonna restart the game

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I have default options so if it loads, it must be smth with the original configuration file it instantly generates upon starting the mod for the first time

cyan nacelle May 10, 2025, 7:04 PM

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I literally don't even know. It makes no sense for anything to hang there in the first place and I do not get why changing the options back and forth would fix it

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 7:04 PM

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Idk either

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 7:05 PM

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tough harbor I have default options so if it loads, it must be smth with the original configu...

I'll test this though

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Maybe it generates wrong and then changing it back and forth fixes it to the intended value somehow??

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Idk

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OK

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It's not

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It crashed

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So it is specifically default options

cyan nacelle May 10, 2025, 7:06 PM

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it really shouldn't. The config file values being correct even on first load is guaranteed by bepinex

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 7:06 PM

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Not a problem with the original file

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Weird

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I'm gonna open the game again

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But it did crash

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I'll try and turn off fragment spawn locations off right off the bat

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Instead of turning fragments off altogether

cyan nacelle May 10, 2025, 7:09 PM

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tough harbor So it is specifically default options

I deleted my options and retested for me, it works without issue

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So something, somehow, is making the default options fail for you but not for me

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 7:09 PM

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Weird af

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OK so it's the fragments altogether?

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It just froze

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With random locations off

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So specifically what happens is like

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It freezes for like 20 secs

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And then unfreezes and starts freezing for a bit

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Like freeze comes back freezes comes back *freezes

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Really fast

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And then it dies instantly

cyan nacelle May 10, 2025, 7:11 PM

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tough harbor Like *freeze* *comes back* *freezes* *comes back* *freezes

Is that before or after the message on screen says it is done randomising?

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 7:11 PM

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It says it's done like right at the start of loading

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Then the game keeps loading for a while until the bar reaches that specific spot

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 7:12 PM

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tough harbor It freezes for like 20 secs

Then this and below happens

cyan nacelle May 10, 2025, 7:12 PM

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so you're getting through the computationally heavy part just fine but then hanging where it basically just swaps something out

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what

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and by then the swapping should have already happened

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 7:13 PM

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I guess?

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@cyan nacelle I tried again turning off the fragments and this time it crashed???

cyan nacelle May 10, 2025, 7:20 PM

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is it just random chance at this point?

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 7:20 PM

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I don't even know anymore wtf is happening LMAO

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I changed all the options again and kept fragments off

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Just to test

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I turned it on and changed the settings for it too

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All in max

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Because it did work

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It also worked

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It's smth with the default options and barely changed default options ig

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Idek anymore what is happening

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But something is wrong

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If you have any ideas of testing, just hmu and I'll help @cyan nacelle

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But that's all I can do rn

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I'd just guess it's smth with fragments or loading the game at first for some reason

cyan nacelle May 10, 2025, 7:29 PM

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I appreciate the offer, but honestly I'm so baffled I don't even know

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for now I assume just play around with the settings until you find something you like and hope it loads. After that you should be good

tough harbor May 10, 2025, 11:54 PM

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Yea it does

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I'm doing basically the hardest possible LMAO

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And it works fine

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Just for some reason default settings don't?

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But anyway

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