SeaToSea

[untold kiln]

...which I still don't have because the microfiber filter item is a complete and total mystery

[trail plinth]

Arent they normally?

[untold kiln]

Haaaaaa~1

Well yes, but also no, cuz if you have a big enough air tank you can at least spend some time diving down into them

But when morale drops like a rock, even going 30 meters takes forever

[trail plinth]

I mean, fair, but why would you want to other than the 1 wreck and the lifepod?

[untold kiln]

It's C2C, I'm scouring every inch of the map to try and find the stupid microfiber filter cloth

[trail plinth]

You posted a screenshot the other day with your scanner room, that might be something worth looking at

[untold kiln]

I have 4 max range scanner rooms in the corners of the map and I've just about run out of databoxes to find. I haven't done much in the dunes or crag fields yet

[trail plinth]

May not be a databox

You found something unfamiliar on one of your scanner rooms

[untold kiln]

True, but many C2C additions are

Yes, and every single "unknown" thing so far has been something precursor-related

[trail plinth]

Hmmmm, I wonder then

[untold kiln]

I guess I'm headed to the crag field next lmao

[trail plinth]

Welp, have fun with the bone sharks 😭 those guys are always a menace to me

[untold kiln]

Every time I reload the game, the metallic meteorite gets marked as unread 🙁

[trail plinth]

Yeah thats an unfortunate byproduct of loading the table of contents

The resources collected from it are actually dynamic, depending on the mods installed iirc

But also i think youve left a few things 'started but not finished' that may be helpful for your current struggle

I think a good way of going through C2C would be if you are presented with a requirement for progression like this, where you have no idea where to start or look, focus on the goals you can accomplish first

[untold kiln]

Believe me, I have

I have so much shit stored in my base at this point lmao

[trail plinth]

Otherwise you end up scouring every corner of the map without knowing what youre looking for

Did you collect all the purple tablet fragments?

[untold kiln]

I swear I scoured every inch of the mountain and I'm stuck at 11/17

[trail plinth]

Yeah it took me a while too

[untold kiln]

Plus there's the one in the middle floating island base

[trail plinth]

Yee

[untold kiln]

Are there more hidden on the floating island? That would make some sort of sense

I just dislike exploring the floating island

[trail plinth]

I mean the floating island is small enough to explore fairly quickly imo

The mountain island is a nightmare

So many winding caves 😭

[untold kiln]

Doesn't mean it's enjoyable, I've only ever found the alien arch on the floating island once

[trail plinth]

I get lost on it too, I more mean that theres not as much to scour, and doing so can be quick enough to get it done and never have to bother again kind of thing

[untold kiln]

True

[trail plinth]

11/17 is pretty solid though

If you havent gotten the one from vanilla on the floating island then there are only 5 fragments unaccounted for

[untold kiln]

I got that one iirc

[trail plinth]

Ah

6 then

[untold kiln]

I've completed 3 scavenger hunts so far - seamoth depth mk 1, the bacteria samples, and the heat vent coral

[trail plinth]

I mean it sucks, but I would recommend finishing that up first, since you can at least narrow down where youre expected to look

[untold kiln]

I very much have no motivation to complete the purple tablet scavenger hunt ._.

[trail plinth]

I mean youve made a scavenger hunt out of looking for the microfilter already :p

[untold kiln]

True

But at least I can do other things like grabbing fragments and databoxes while I'm looking for that underwater

[trail plinth]

I mean yeah fair

[untold kiln]

Also, if purple tablets cost ion cubes to craft, then I have no clue as to how I'd craft my first one, cuz afaik every single ion cube in the game is locked behind a purple tablet door

[trail plinth]

Well, you wont know until you get the recipe

[untold kiln]

Usually you get your first cube(s) from the gun base

[trail plinth]

Usually yeah

Not sure if it would help, but do you have a scanner room that can see the entirety of the mountain island?

I had one that was barely in range, and at the time I couldn't scan for the purple tablet fragments, but it let me see the caves at a distance at least

[untold kiln]

I do, hm

I'll go check to see if I can scan for those

I also have one that covers the floating island

I still have no idea how I'm supposed to prevent the plankton from spawning around my base unless it's the creature repellent pylon

My solution so far has been to make the only entrance/exit to my base be the moonpool

I only go in and out with my seamoth

FINALLY, THAT STUPID BASE I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR FOR HOURS

THERMOBLADE ACQUIRED

[trail plinth]

I'll tell you now, you definitely have the voice line relevant for it

also you've most likely looked at it at the very lesat

[untold kiln]

Do I actually have to listen to the voice lines in the databank, or is reading the logs enough?

Cuz iirc some of them don't quite match up

[trail plinth]

reading should be enough

[untold kiln]

...hm

[trail plinth]

remember what plankton is, and what tends to 'deal' with it

[untold kiln]

Whales :v

Reefbacks, I would assume

[trail plinth]

not exclusively

[untold kiln]

Or ghost leviathans, perhaps

[trail plinth]

that would pose other problems I'd imagine

are you the kind of person that takes samples from new things you encounter by any chance?

[untold kiln]

I've taken samples from most plants at this point

Not all of them, but most

I've got all 3 types of kelp/weed/etc, I've got sea crowns and a few others, I've got the alkali vines and the one that's used in the T2 medkit, etc

Thankfully the glass kelps reach just high enough that I could take a sample without drowning

Not that they've been useful yet cuz I haven't bothered making a bioprocessor, but still

[trail plinth]

Anything new and interesting? Other than the ones you mentioned

[untold kiln]

I'd have to get back to base to give you any more specifics lol

[trail plinth]

fair enough

[untold kiln]

Currently caving in the mountain biome

[trail plinth]

...how

aren't those caves like 300m deep?

[untold kiln]

I have the seamoth at the 200m mark and an ultra high capacity tank 😄

[trail plinth]

hm

I thought there were currents that prevented entry

I might be misremembering

[untold kiln]

I did see a current, idr if it was pointed in or out

I'll worry about that when my air runs low lol

[trail plinth]

oh god good luck 😭

[untold kiln]

If all else fails, I can just reload cuz I've developed a habit of saving every time I exit my Seamoth

[trail plinth]

Fair, just don't accidentally softlock yourself

[untold kiln]

Well, there's the module blueprint I need for Life pod 15 😄

[trail plinth]

eheh

eheheheh...

yeah

[untold kiln]

lmao

I found my way out

Since I went from north to south, the currents were going in the direction I needed to pass 😄

[trail plinth]

whew

[untold kiln]

0 morale while caving is a bitch to deal with though

[trail plinth]

yeeeah

[untold kiln]

jfc that module's expensive

What is that, 50 azurite??

[trail plinth]

YEP

45

[untold kiln]

So like half the map

[trail plinth]

yeeeah

[untold kiln]

While I still don't have the electrochemical suit ._.

Yeah fuck that

[trail plinth]

:)

[untold kiln]

That can wait lmao

[trail plinth]

lmfao yeah

there are a number of things in C2C that I think are 'soft' gated

Ie gated behind inconvenience

[untold kiln]

The entire reason I found that underground gate is cuz of the two databoxes in there, I'd left the scanner room in the region looking for databoxes 😄

[trail plinth]

sure, you could grab it without the suit, but that'll take a very long time and a lot of healing

[trail plinth]

ahhhh gotcha, that'd do it

[untold kiln]

The ghost juvenile doesn't like my southwestern scanner room 🙂

[trail plinth]

I think that might be a bit larger than a juvenile

[untold kiln]

Maybe? idk

I just kept the room between us and it eventually got bored and left

[trail plinth]

oh you know what

it might have been the cameras

then again I've had ghost leviathans attack bases that didn't have scanner rooms yet, so

[untold kiln]

Hm. no purple tablet fragments in range of this scanner room, but I do see Sunbeam Debris, Unidentifiable Object, PDA, and somehow still more databoxes, the hell??

[trail plinth]

are they opened databoxes maybe?

[untold kiln]

Nah, those don't show up anymore

[trail plinth]

I remember having that issue with opened databoxes

oh

either way, yeah I guess the tablets don't show up

unfortunate

but at least you can probably see the caves on the projector

[untold kiln]

There aren't any databoxes showing up on the map in the scanner room though, so I'mma just assume it's seeing something in the lost river lmao

[untold kiln]

Nah, not quite close enough for that

[trail plinth]

oogh

[trail ether]

259 messages

[trail ether]

because its PDA content is generated at runtime

based on the resource table which is itself determined at runtime

[untold kiln]

ah ok

[trail plinth]

oopsie

[untold kiln]

Oh cool, azurite battery in the seaglide is good enough to overcome the currents 😄

"Oh look, that 'unidentifiable object' is super close, I wonder what it is-! ...It's an alien vent, aaaAUUUUGGGHHH"

[trail plinth]

yyyyep

it'll be useful, don't worry!

[trail ether]

no spoilers 😛

[untold kiln]

I'm aware of what the peepers do

[trail plinth]

doing my best to avoid that :p

[untold kiln]

Legit the only reason I've yet to make it to the lost river already by this point is this microfiber filter cloth thing that's newly added

This one item has added hours to my playtime by itself

[trail plinth]

well........

[untold kiln]

Ok, the only reason so far lmao

[trail plinth]

the issue is that you're at the point where you would reasonably expect to need it, but you haven't done other things at their given points of "needing to do that"

[untold kiln]

I'm very much not looking forward to dealing with the bioprocessor because the recipes for the lyzing enzymes are way more punishing than they used to be

[trail plinth]

While C2C and Subnautica as a whole are very 'just kinda do stuff whenever' up to a certain point, there are some things that have a progression to them

and you have found one of them

[untold kiln]

mhm

[trail plinth]

if you haven

oops

if you haven't decided to already, I would reeeeally recommend going back to finish your scavenger hunt

[untold kiln]

I will say that having access to the ACU has been a huge QoL boost to this run, cuz (I assume) EasyCraft can craft directly from ACUs, so I no longer need to catch fish for food and water 😄

[trail plinth]

oh yeah for sure, that's super helpful

I recommend doing a bladderfish acu for a while

[untold kiln]

I've been saving up all the disinfected water I'm finding in boxes cuz that'll make using the bioprocessor a lot less painful at first

Yeah I've got one for reginalds and one for bladderfish

And I've got a lantern tree right next to my fabricator, so whenever I get hungry/thirsty, I have everything in one spot

[trail plinth]

ahhhh that's good that's good

reginalds ftw

[untold kiln]

ye ye

I'm definitely looking forward to when I can finally make the water extractor

Then I can bring large waters and cured reginalds with me everywhere

[trail plinth]

yeeeeeee tha'ts what i did

super helpful

[untold kiln]

Then again, with the thermoblade, fish isn't really an issue anymore, it's plants

Cuz as far as I can tell, you have to alternate between fish and plants every time you eat if you want morale boosts

[trail plinth]

really? if anything, low morale has affected my ability to slice fish with my thermoblade the 2 or 3 times I've had to

[untold kiln]

More than two from a single category(or more than a single nutrient block) in a row will tank your morale

[trail plinth]

wha

I tihnk the limit is 3 in a row before your morale starts dropping slightly

[untold kiln]

Nah, the 3rd is where it drops

[trail plinth]

it's like bonus, neutral, neutral, -5

[untold kiln]

Or the 2nd for nutrient blocks

Bonus, neutral with warning, then it drops

[trail plinth]

hm, I may be misremembering

[untold kiln]

At any rate, afaik there aren't really any plant foods you can preserve for long trips

[trail plinth]

unfortunately not

[untold kiln]

So the thermoblade doesn't really help that much

[trail plinth]

it's good for the not starving aspect at least

[untold kiln]

Which is unfortunate, with how hard is it to get

True

By the time I got the thermoblade, I no longer need it cuz I have a reginald ACU

Right then, time to comb through the PDA logs again

[trail plinth]

whatcha lookin for?

[untold kiln]

The microfiber thing

Any clues for it

[trail plinth]

There will be times where there are no clues, and you're intended to stumble upon it as you're discovering things

So that by the time you actually need it, you'll already have it

[untold kiln]

Well, you keep telling me to check the voice logs when I've been talking about looking for the microfiber stuff, so

[trail plinth]

that was for the plankton

[untold kiln]

Oh

...

[trail plinth]

you may have thought microfilter instead of microfiber

er, other way around

[untold kiln]

The thing I need for the mk1 depth module and the recirculation mask

Microfiber, microfilter, potato potato

[trail plinth]

well

yeah no I was entirely referring to the plankton issue with the voice log thing

when you were talking about microfiber, I ended up talking about the purple tablet scavenger hunt

[untold kiln]

Oh right, you asked me what plants I have samples of

[trail plinth]

that was still in relation to the plankton stuff but yeah I did ask about that

or rather I just asked if you regularly took samples of new stuff

[untold kiln]

Two types of coral, blood oil, both acid shrooms, brain coral, the fungus, gel sacks, all 3 types of kelp, writhing weed, sea crown, eye stalk, rouge cradle, redwort, jellyshroom, lumenshroom oil, alkali vines, salve bush, and pyropods

[trail plinth]

and then asked what

[untold kiln]

Also eye flames

[trail ether]

ok i cannot keep up

[untold kiln]

Hi 😄

[trail plinth]

good morning

[untold kiln]

The entirety of the conversation today has just been me giving progress updates(and complaints) about my run lol

[trail plinth]

hmm

honestly kind of surpriesd to not see sometihng in that list

[trail ether]

i am too distracted to participate in a rapid chat

[trail plinth]

I...understand

[untold kiln]

That's fine! 😄

I tried hitting the hanging stinger things with a knife, but I got no sample from those

[trail plinth]

anyway yeah check for that voice log I mentioned, I'm guessing you probably went all over the place after getting it, so it might be a bit buried

[untold kiln]

I'm reading through the actual PDA entries atm, specifically the Aurora survivor logs

[trail plinth]

as interesting as that would be, I can imagine a lot of people complaining about "how was I supposed to know you could get samples from the drooping stingers, you can't get samples from htem in vanilla!" which would be kind of valid

[untold kiln]

I didn't know they didn't have samples in vanilla, I've never tried before

Somehow I'm missing a type of coral, I can only assume it's below 400m

[trail plinth]

:)

[untold kiln]

I wish I could go back in time and shank Fordson, I need that goddamn tablet

[trail plinth]

LMFAO

I love fordson, he's just doing his best

[untold kiln]

He is lol

I still wanna shank him though

I have a shiny new thermoblade with his name on it

[trail plinth]

iirc I may be voicing him when those pda logs get voice acted, so you'll be shanking me

[untold kiln]

XD

The guy from life pod 9 is a dumbass smh

There's a difference between seawater and fresh water

[trail plinth]

LMAO yeah I loved that one

[untold kiln]

I find it funny that the guy in the mushroom forest tree apparently died via suffocation, there's so many brain corals in there that you'll die of thirst long before you ever die of anything else

[trail plinth]

honestly, I'd be interested to see a game that's similar to subnautica, but the water isn't a common chemical composition of water, or just isn't water at all

[untold kiln]

Welp, the entries from the Aurora survivors are a bust, though the ||mountain cave|| log seems to indicate a cave system I've yet to explore

[trail plinth]

technically it could have been dehydration, could have just left the pda there thinking he was gonna drown but then ended up getting lost, finding air, and then dying anyway

[untold kiln]

I appreciate that every single C2C voice log has the paper logo instead of something less unique

[trail plinth]

also may wanna spoiler some of the specifics

honestly I don't think I've ever noticed that 😭

but still that is a good distinction

[trail ether]

i have my reservations about his VA too

[untold kiln]

DogeKek

[trail ether]

he did a very good job tohugh

[untold kiln]

Lifepod 9 log 2 is very quiet

...I don't get it

[trail plinth]

oh wait I don't tihnk that's C2C

I think that's vanilla

[untold kiln]

It might not be

Every other one with a page is C2C though, I'm 95% sure

[trail plinth]

the paper might relate to like, data acquired relative to a voice log?

[untold kiln]

Case in point lol

[trail plinth]

lmao yeah

[untold kiln]

And that one has nothing to do with a voice log, it's possible it might just be the default for modded voice logs

[trail plinth]

ah maybe

[untold kiln]

Either way, it's nice to have an easy way to filter out vanilla logs

[trail plinth]

true true

[untold kiln]

Most mods don't add voice logs either, so

[trail plinth]

yeeeeee

[untold kiln]

nope, none of the voice logs I have mention anything about plankton or anything related

[trail plinth]

uh

anything related for 500

[untold kiln]

xP

[trail plinth]

unless it bugged out

but aside from that you should 100% have it because you've been to the area

[untold kiln]

I learned from a post on the subreddit recently that sitting in a chair prevents your food/water meters from going down lol

I wish it also prevented morale from dropping, but oh well

[trail plinth]

yes, sitting on a chair or bench or whatever else is perfect for looking through your pda

minus the morale loss yeah, but a bench would be a great fit for a high morale room

[untold kiln]

I've got ludicrous amounts of food, so I can just gorge myself to inflate my morale

Or I can just hop in the Seamoth

[trail plinth]

yeah seamoth go zoom

[untold kiln]

😄

[trail plinth]

but either way, assuming it played at all, the voice log should be there

[untold kiln]

idk what to tell you

[trail plinth]

and it is a C2C voice log, so unless it doesn't have the paper icon

[untold kiln]

I'm assuming this one is meant to be for the depth module mk 1, but idr where I was when this one fired

I can guess as to where I was though

[trail plinth]

Honestly I don't remember either

it would make sense at least

but I guess that is a bit of a problem of location-based voice prompts that don't track where you were at the point it went off

[untold kiln]

This could be literally anywhere

[trail plinth]

that'd be a cool system to add actually, similar to pings, but they're all off by default and the ping is where you were when the PDA talked to you at that to,e

[untold kiln]

Yeah! 😄

[trail plinth]

that one is I think in ||the crash zone||

[untold kiln]

This one's the ||drones|| of course

[trail plinth]

yee

[trail ether]

basically he is one of those people who thinks that poor people are only poor because they are unmotivated or incapable

[trail plinth]

holy flashbang

[untold kiln]

That would make sense. I have no clue what I'm missing there cuz I already grabbed everything in the ||wreck on the eastern side of the Aurora||

[trail plinth]

you'll find out, and when you do...my condolences

[trail ether]

and you should have seen how i got upset when he acted like i have to agree with that just because i make over 100k/y

[untold kiln]

Oh nice, congrats! 😄

[trail ether]

also to do fordson - which to be fair I did envision you doing - you would have to do at least a subtly different voice

or people will think he and pod 15 guy are the same person

and get confused

"how did he get back"

[trail plinth]

yeah I dunno what happened with that guy, seemed decent at first but I didn't really interact much with him and then I find out he's kinda turned into that

[trail plinth]

He has short enough voice lines that I could do that one voice you heard me do

[trail ether]

there is tons of precedent for the same VA voicing multiple characters - look at Khasar, Keen, Ozzy, Danby, and the guy in pod 4 - but they do change their voice

in contrast notice how Paul Torgal and pod 7 guy do NOT sound like different people

[trail plinth]

also I can redo the pod 15 one with better quality and help make it more distinct from fordson

[trail ether]

while pod 6 idiot scottish lady and marguerit do

[trail ether]

wooo

[trail plinth]

yeah I've been thinking of offering to do that for a while now, because I think I recorded it while at home with a shittier mic

[trail ether]

maybe once i finish voice training i can do jules with you

and we can do the mountain logs together

[trail plinth]

truuuuuue

[trail ether]

esp if pali does lorenz

[untold kiln]

I'd be down for voicing a character, I've got a mic 😄

[trail ether]

that also works

i am willing to rewrite lorenz as female if need be

(just going off your avatar)

[untold kiln]

An MXL 990 Blackout, to be specific

[trail ether]

we can do a group VC at some point

[untold kiln]

See, about that

I'm a guy, but I get called "ma'am" over the phone about 50% of the time lmao

wheeze

My voice just... never got deeper

At least, not much

[trail plinth]

LMAO oogh, I hope that doesn't negatively affect your irl morale 😭

[trail ether]

the slight distortion from discord will just help the quality, free audio filter 😛

[trail ether]

as i am being made increasingly acutely aware the distinction is not just in pitch

my voice never really deepened either

a little but not a lot

[trail plinth]

mine did 😭 I can't do silly high pitched noises or references anymore

[trail ether]

T levels lower than my patience for children is liikely part of it

[untold kiln]

I've decided to find it funny

[trail plinth]

good good

[untold kiln]

Funnily enough, in the morning when I'm freshly awake, my voice does get significantly deeper, enough so that one of my friends didn't recognize my voice the first time they heard it

DogeKek

Still going through all the modded voice logs I have, this is of course a general tip, which is nice to have

[trail ether]

my voice is much deeper in the morning too

i get very self conscious in 8am meetings because of it

meanwhile at 1430 i can do a very feminine "Hello!" and maintain a higher voice for the entire hour

[untold kiln]

I haven't the slightest idea of what this could be referring to, my best guess is the repulsion cannon swapping function? idk

[trail ether]

i added that because lots and lots of players were ignoring the vanilla content because "I've already seen it"

[untold kiln]

Yuuup

[trail ether]

ignoring how some of it was modified and lots of it is stuff to lead you past other stuff

[untold kiln]

It's an overhaul mod, you need to take nothing for granted

[trail ether]

AuroraRingRoomTerminal is the name

the one in the "Strader VI hivemind" log lab

[untold kiln]

...the what?

[trail ether]

in vanilla it unlocks the repul cannon

[untold kiln]

ah

[trail ether]

i made it unlock a boost to crafting speed

[untold kiln]

Oh cool 😄

[trail ether]

about 50% slower than vanilla before, about 25% faster after

[untold kiln]

I'm 90% sure this is the Anomaly

[karmic drum]

Maybe

[untold kiln]

The next one literally says it's lifepod 15, so skipping that

There's lifepod 9...

This one happened about 5 seconds before I picked up ||mercury|| ore for the first time this save

[karmic drum]

I'm legally not aloud to say

[untold kiln]

lol

This one I know is the Anomaly

Helpful. Very helpful. ._.

There's the poop one

idr where this one was, but I do remember thinking ||"Oh, it's just mercury ore again"|| which in hindsight doesn't make sense, but oh well

Wait, working from context clues from the other 3 voice logs that day, that was the day I raided the ||floating islands|| wreck

idk why one of the modded voice logs mentions PRAWN safety procedures, but whatever

There's the log from cutting open the hot door in the Aurora

And this one was Scavenger Hunt #3

And that's all of them

You see why I'm confused about the plankton stuff

At this point I'm resigned to just dealing with them by using the Seamoth until I get the electrochemical suit

Welp, time to go explore the crag fields and then the dunes

one thing I don't miss about DeathRun is that it removes most of the Sea Crown spawns from the map

[trail plinth]

hmmmmm

Was there one that made any mention of microorganisms?

[untold kiln]

nope

[trail plinth]

wtf

[untold kiln]

I've posted all of the ones I've gotten so far

Well, most of them, but I mentioned all the others

oh that's funny, the alien arch holes count as safe zones you can save in

[trail plinth]

anything that has the word microbial in it?

[untold kiln]

No

[trail plinth]

damn

[untold kiln]

Should I be picking up creature eggs? I've been ignoring them

[trail plinth]

okay something may have gone wrong then

I mean yeah probably, but that's not related to the issue

[untold kiln]

Lol I just found the "Who is Dragon Industries?" PDA

||Plankton scoop|| blueprint acquired! 😄

lol my face got eaten by a Mesmer, gonna have to go back and grab that again

[trail plinth]

rip

[trail plinth]

I have news, but I'm fairly certain you'll figure out what I'm gonna say soon enough 😭

[trail ether]

what

[untold kiln]

Yeah

[trail ether]

:3

[untold kiln]

Not all of them, there's still one spot with them in the Bulb Zone by one of the life pods which isn't hard to find

That's my go-to to get them at this point

idk about other spots it may or may not remove them from though, cuz this is my first run without DeathRun in literal years

All I know 100% for sure is that they're way less common than before, and they're definitely no longer in the Primary Containment Facility

[trail ether]

[untold kiln]

Why does your "warhead" look kinda like a D12 lol

[karmic drum]

Try big shrooms

[untold kiln]

??

[karmic drum]

For the thing you were stuck on ealier

The filter

[untold kiln]

I have a jellyshroom sample, if that's what you're asking about

[trail ether]

https://i.imgur.com/CPzN6IF.png

[untold kiln]

I don't have a lumenshroom sample though, just the oil

[karmic drum]

No no. Much bigger

[untold kiln]

Oh, the mushroom forest? Yeah, I got one

[karmic drum]

Not samples.

[trail ether]

https://github.com/ReikaKalseki?tab=repositories&q=dragonindustries&type=&language=&sort=

[untold kiln]

I scanned them too...?

God, this save has 22 hours already

[trail ether]

https://i.imgur.com/6RpF3xV.png

[trail ether]

i can also speak in multiblock

[untold kiln]

lmao

...I look away from my screen for 6 seconds to type that and I accidentally swim through a random swarm of plankton ._.

200+ meters from my Seamoth, yaaaay

Hm, that wasn't everything in the crag fields. Guess the rest will have to wait till I have a depth module and the mask

Lifepod 14 databank entry is full now though! 😄

aaand the scoop needs microfilters. GOD DAMMIT

Welp. To the dunes we go!

[karmic drum]

It's a big gate. Unlocks a lot of good shit. Lays the groundwork anyways

You'll feel dumb when you find it

[untold kiln]

So I've noticed lol

Thaaanks

xP

Huh, lumenshrooms don't have samples besides the oil

[karmic drum]

In mods like this. Where you can't add a lot of new terrain. I like to check literally everything that isn't in the base game. From small caves and alcloves. To massive landmarks that normally only mark the way

And I'd advise trying to knock off the statistically safer biomes in your pda first

[gentle pebble]

I got this one ||right next to the Aurora, on the near side, which was unhelpful, since I'm pretty sure it refers to the base on the far side||

[untold kiln]

Yeah I finished that base already

I have no idea what I've missed in the Crash Zone, I've gotten everything I'm aware of from previous C2C attempts

WOOOOOO

First try 😄

[karmic drum]

Good luck not being able to craft it

[untold kiln]

Actually that's not that bad

Doable right now, even

[karmic drum]

Huh. Could've swore that was behind the filters as well

[untold kiln]

Thankfully no, apparently

[karmic drum]

https://tenor.com/view/here-we-go-again-annoyed-benedict-cumberbatch-smh-hmph-gif-26468095

[karmic drum]

It might protect you from the plankton. But you will remain a slave to the plankton nonetheless

[untold kiln]

lol

If it means I can put down more entrances to my seabases without instantly losing all my morale, I'll be more than happy

[karmic drum]

That much should be possible

[untold kiln]

Well that's neat.

I already have a mod for that, but neat!

[trail ether]

https://i.imgur.com/liUQfyN.png

[untold kiln]

To illustrate just how frustrating this lack of microfilters is, I've scanned every Prawn suit fragment outside the Aurora, I've got all the Prawn arms, I've got 9/11 ||nanite|| fragments, the bioprocessor, the nuclear reactor, the ||geyser particulate filter||, the rock crusher, the autofarming unit, the seabase sonar antenna andd the creature repellant pylon, the Cyclops, the shield generator, the fire suppression system and the thermal reactor, the headlights, the heat sink, the ||acoustic suppression|| module, the scoop, nanowrap bandages, mk1-3 seamoth depth modules, all the tanks and all the fins, all the cyclops depth modules, the stasis rifle and laser cutter, the thermoblade, the electrochemical suit, the recirculation mask, 11/17 purple tablet fragments, and all the vanilla suits

[karmic drum]

😭 😭 😭

I genuinely hate how the dev team is getting slammed for this

Glad they're holding firm though

[untold kiln]

...let me know if I should spoiler more of that stuff

At this rate I'mma get to lifepod 15 before I get the mask and depth modules

Haaaaaa~1

[karmic drum]

Trust me. You're not

[untold kiln]

I know where a hell of a lot of azurite is

And that's the biggest hurdle

[worldly valve]

Big tanks are great and a deep base is about as strong

[trail ether]

https://i.imgur.com/WN3SPsJ.jpeg

any guesses why?

...fuck i forgot i need a repair tool

aHA https://i.imgur.com/CKk5saB.jpeg

[trail plinth]

doing a run finally? lets gooooo

[trail plinth]

Again, you're looking for something with nothing to go off of. You don't know where to find it, so you're searching 'everywhere'. That gets frustrating for you. Take a step back, focus on some of the stuff you can work on in the meantime like the purple tablets. ||There's a reason I'm specifying that btw||

There are some things in C2C that are detached from any sort of outside clues and aren't meant for the carpet-bomb approach of looking through the entirety of the map

You're still in the early game, so the more difficult "beeline for a given thing" becomes, the less likely you're intended to. That only starts to change once you get into the lost river, where you're much more limited on what options you have

[trail plinth]

||the cyclops storage module, of course 😛 ||

[karmic drum]

Several reasons actually

[karmic drum]

https://tenor.com/view/welcome-to-the-rice-fields-japan-gif-16533178

Fuck you discord....

[trail plinth]

thank you discord for not embeding that

[karmic drum]

😭

[still drum]

Why are you using de extinction 💀 hopefully this is legacy or else the game will probably die

[karmic drum]

Dude... she's playing her own mods

Of course it's on legacy

[barren oar]

the unofficial port still exists and who better to look out for issues than the creator herself

but high chance it is legacy yeag

actually wasn't the game version supposed to be present in the top right?

maybe its just in the menu only

[trail ether]

+DeE and FCS

my first FCS run since dec 2023

which was when FCS compat was added

[karmic drum]

Yup, especially since she doesn't have to fumble around trying to find literally everything

[trail ether]

woo https://i.imgur.com/vjmKfwn.jpeg

[worldly valve]

You sho tho....but i feel you

Bring some titanium to use as markers maybe

[karmic drum]

How in talos are you so fast? 😂

[trail ether]

||https://i.imgur.com/prvVUXJ.jpeg||

[karmic drum]

Lord almighty

[worldly valve]

Yeah but you can always grab 1 or 2 safely😆

[worldly valve]

I...did it

[worldly valve]

What biomes have you complwted

[trail ether]

https://i.imgur.com/DT3yKDO.jpeg

taking a brief break now though

i died after getting that tooth - thirst - and i am going to go get dinner first before trying again

[gentle pebble]

Ah, I figured out why it seemed so unreasonable to get a Leisure room, having FCS installed significantly increases the requirements, and I haven't unlocked the FCS stuff yet. Although even with those, I think getting enough to hit the requirement on default settings would end up making the room extremely cluttered

[untold kiln]

Only one of the exploration logs is completely full iirc

[worldly valve]

try to compl;ete some of the easier one

[trail ether]

the requirements go up because FCS adds so so many buildables with high deco values

also having died twice now and come close a couple more times i do feel like like the morale effect on speed is having some unintended side effects

running low on food or water while more than 500m from the base is guaranteed death

[gentle pebble]

Yeah, it's just very hard to meet before you unlock the FCS items, which is a decent way into the game

[trail ether]

because of the slow speed caused by low morale caused by low food/water

it makes avoiding attacks impossibkle

it reduces your time at depth by 80%

i am toying with making the seaglide bypass morale speed penalties and instead take a big battery consumption hit

to emulate using it sloppily with low vectoring efficiency

[gentle pebble]

I think my biggest issue with morale is how quickly you lose it when taking damage over time, for example from plankton or heat, you can go from 100-0 in only a few seconds

[trail ether]

this is true

and valid

the damage system was designed to penalize you for tanking damage like bites

it was never designed to continuously punish DoT

[gentle pebble]

I also noticed that the deco score doesn't update when you add windows or wall planters, until you place something else. It can makes it seem like they don't have an effect, and made me very confused how deco score worked for a while, because it seemed like removing and re-adding items would sometimes not give consistent results.

When deco score matters so much for morale in a base, it becomes more important to be able to tell how things are actually changing it, I initially was largely ignoring windows and wall planters because I didn't think they were doing anything for it.

I was pretty sure I remembered that ||there was a data card on top of the lava in this spot, and I swam over it three times trying to find it, and still couldn't spot it until I actually set up a scanner room nearby||

[trail ether]

that is because those things do not trigger a build event

it is an implementation limitation

because all structural parts - anything on that first page of the build menu - does not actually get added to the base, it swaps out objects

hence why the moonpool drops and regrabs the seamoth every time you edit the containing base

[gentle pebble]

That's unfortunate. Maybe make a note about it in the Room Specialization databank entry, or as part of a databank entry for Morale or Deco Score?

[barren oar]

you could trigger it manually by patching wherever it is a constructable is constructed? if it's an interior module then you can be reasonably certain it's inside a base so getting the nearest base shouldn't be an issue (excluding stuff like repeatedly building wall shelves under you clipping you outside of the base)

come to think of it does that bypass c2c's need to upgrade your air tank for high depths

[spring mulch]

Hey guys. Btw I'm still stuck on if c2c works on 2.0 (this port)

[trail ether]

base pieces are not constructables

I have a hook for when Constructables are built

[barren oar]

oh then what are modules

if not constructables

oh wait sorry i misread the intial question yes i see now

then can you patch where the base is reconstructed? it must happen somewhere since the moonpool re-updates, as you've stated

or is it just creating a new Base object entirely

[trail plinth]

wait you're doing an FCS run as well???? you gonna send the modpack to me or what :p

[trail plinth]

I may be remembering incorrectly, but I think I've been told that when you finish building a new piece or whatever, the entire base reloads with the new piece added, ie creating an entirely new base plus the new piece

[barren oar]

fuckass system

maybe patching in wherever the progress is changed by the habitat builder and if it ends up completed then recalculate or whattevveerrr it is definitely kinda ass though

[untold kiln]

What's the threshold for the scanner room for the various scavenger hunts in C2C?

What the fuck

Why is my scanner room tripping

I don't understand, I'm at 14/17 ||purple tablet|| fragments, yet I still can't scan for them??

Why does this one break the rule

I could scan for the ||mk 1 depth module sticks|| immediately, and I know I've scanned for ||bacteria samples|| and ||that filter coral|| in the past before

[barren oar]

yeah it does that

that section in particular kinda just sucks for some unknown reason

try to go to other scans in the meantime if you have any more, or wait around, or unload the area and come back

in my experience one of these would work

...they do all boil down to the second option regardless

[untold kiln]

I have nothing else to do at this point, I'mma just save and reload the game

[marble creek]

Sometimes i think the purple tablet scans are a troll, for some reason I always get to 16/17 and then it takes me like four hours to find the last fragment

[untold kiln]

This is why I want the scanner room to be functional for these

At 14/17 it should definitely be an option to scan for

imo at 12/17 it should be a valid scan target

Managed to hit 16/17 and it's still not a scannable option, I would like to petition that that be added ._.

[marble creek]

Good luck with the last one

[modern ibex]

Legacy, I was trying the chew toy out in the wild on those variant stalkers. A reginald swam up and appeared to eat the entire thing.
Huh ❓ ❓ ❓

we were laughing so hard with my friend when we saw that

[unreal flame]

put morale loss from damage on a small cooldown?

additional morale suggestion: if the player manages to retain high morale for a long enough period while inside a biome that has an active morale malus, that malus is reduced for some time (intent is to help enable basing in "scary" biomes)

[modern ibex]

Often when you find a water bottle spawned in by this mod, it's cursed somewhat and breaks your inventory when you drink it

[barren oar]

yeah its fucked

iirc dropping the bottle and picking it back up should make it fine though

[modern ibex]

thankfully despawned when I restarted game and didn't brick my save

[modern ibex]

Also love how I'm starving due to bad choices, see a plant, try to eat it and my character dies vomiting.

[trail ether]

that was my thinking too

[trail ether]

also valid

though less trivial to implement

[karmic drum]

Loving all the brain storming

Making me want to come back for another run

[trail ether]

i am reluctant to do a lot of code though given the 2.0 port

loading the game where i left off though, having just made a revreather

headed to degasi1

[karmic drum]

Understandable. That port is still highly volatile. So that's an aspect of consideration

[karmic drum]

Actual base building here you come

[trail ether]

yes'

going to build in the NW mushroom forest this tim,e

at its eastern edge

near that big wreck oin the tree

aaagh

i keep touching drooping stingers

having to keep dying and reloading and crashing and reloading and dying and loading is getting irritating

[barren oar]

that just means they're doing their job very well

[karmic drum]

Yea... inconvenient mass death events are super inconvenient on legacy

[trail ether]

yes but my lack of gamer skill is making it way more difficult than intended

also @untold kiln this is an example of a "soft gate"...which i am blowing past ||https://i.imgur.com/gOkcqi8.jpeg||

[barren oar]

?? is that supposed to require The Upgrade to The Tool You're Holding

or what do you mean by soft gate

its been too long since my playthrough to remember if that was locked to later or not

[trail ether]

WHY IS IT FULL OF BITERS

[trail ether]

no, it is supposed to strongly incentivize having a seamoth before coming here

but not outright force it

[barren oar]

oohh

[trail ether]

so it is a soft rather than hard gate

[karmic drum]

??

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-have-any-idea-how-little-that-narrows-it-down-that-narrows-it-down-clear-now-its-clear-now-i-understand-now-gif-21256627

[trail ether]

the degasi base

FOUR of them https://i.imgur.com/HJbOjC9.jpeg

that killed me

[karmic drum]

Oh, huh, you know I'll be honest... I haven't done a proper run since the morale system came out. Thought it would fuck with mental health too much. So I guess before that I just... sort of ignored them

[karmic drum]

😭

[untold kiln]

Eh, just hit them with the knife and they die, and since it's an enclosed space you don't get more of them bugging you

That does sound incredibly annoying tho

[untold kiln]

Ty

[trail ether]

i am not doing that

[untold kiln]

I don't understand why, but you do you 😄

[gentle pebble]

Bad RNG, I guess? There were no biters in it in my playthrough

[trail plinth]

Wtf, how did biters get down there?? From the grassy plateau i guess?

[trail plinth]

Reika tries to play without killing any fauna iirc. I do the same, minus bleeders

[trail ether]

same in satisfactory

it makes building difficult at times

I could link hundreds of screenshots of my factories being visited by the Alpha Spitter Inspection Committee...and, judging from their reactions to me, finding my designs lacking XD

[karmic drum]

I assume you probably get enough to do your MAM research and then call it on the killing

Also don't mind the spitter committee. They don't like anyone's desgins

Pretentious cunts

[trail plinth]

Fuckin HOA of satisfactory

[trail ether]

yes

[trail ether]

there is one exception though

[karmic drum]

Me personally? I prefer cluster munitions

[still drum]

casually makes bonesharks 10x more annoying

[karmic drum]

I try to go through subnautica without killing anything (that isn't food) with three exceptions. Either of the crawlers, bleeders, and biters

[trail ether]

i tend to kill bleeders too

[still drum]

interesting function the devs added

[trail ether]

stop that

seriously

[karmic drum]

Those all deserve to meet the receiving end an azuruite charged propulsion cannon

[trail ether]

i have ideas for how to deal with that already

it just depends on finding a way to arrange a new Sea Emperor VO line

[trail plinth]

deal with what?

related to the deleted messsage I assume or am I missing some context clues

[barren oar]

yeah they're nothing but a nuisance (and everything else takes more than 3 knife stabs to kill)

deep crawlers are chill though since you have 30x its height worth of space to evade them

even though they're like twice the height of the player canonically? or something like that

[trail ether]

murderhobos

to borrow an E:D term

[trail ether]

"i just kill everything all the time"

[trail plinth]

ohhhh

I understand contextually now

[trail ether]

see if you can spot it

copy pasted someone's comment from reddit

over the ABSOLUTE SHITSHOW that subreddit has ebcome

[trail plinth]

spotted it

[barren oar]

reduce spadefish egg spawns? really?

thats like

the worst thing a player could experience

[trail plinth]

ikr

[barren oar]

dont do that even for the everything killers please

[trail plinth]

they're so rare, I only found 40 of them when looking for another egg

[trail ether]

also from the subreddit

[barren oar]

although on a serious note farmed alkali hiding sounds super ass to do anything with, considering they're 2x2 too so you cant really stockpile them

[trail ether]

hence option

[barren oar]

yeah option implies it may be added

or do you mean config?

[trail plinth]

I'll be honest, having the alkali vines hide in your growbeds would incentivise the use of the auto-farmer

maybe enable it for hardmode C2C

[trail ether]

https://fixupx.com/AuthorialGail/status/2057124441226625123?s=20

Genre Antagonist (@AuthorialGail)

The way gamers talk about “agency” in video games is endlessly funny because it just comes down to “I would just kill and kill and kill” and if you “deny” this in any way it becomes “bad game design”

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FixupX · May 20, 2026, 3:41 PM

[karmic drum]

I'm starting to think subnautica wouldn't have been successful if the devs had been able to implement the no killing philosophy at the start

[barren oar]

i guess that's true but also it still has very little storage space for the 2x2 vines

[trail ether]

yes

[karmic drum]

As that was part of the intention with subnautica at the start

[barren oar]

oh ok cool then yeah that'd be cool to have i guess

[karmic drum]

To make a survival game about vulnerability

[barren oar]

like how many could it store, 6 at once at best?

i dont remember how big the autoharvester is

and there isn't any sort of automated item transport/sorting in aq. eng. last i recallll

[trail plinth]

I mean yeah, htat's fair, but depending how you set up growbeds your auto-farmer can be set to only harvest alkali vines, which means you'll constantly have a full storage of them (I forget how big the storage is for the auto-farmer)

[trail ether]

i fear you are correct

though

the culture war was less awful then than now

[barren oar]

there is that weird autosorter buildable thing only present in creative that also has no uses as far as im aware

[trail plinth]

it's a bit bigger than a 6x6

iirc it's like 8 tall 12 across or something

I remember being able to store 3 2x2s vertically

[trail ether]

nowadays the lack of killing is being blamed on "vegan devs" and people unironically post this

[barren oar]

oh then yeah its like 24 vines per you're probably fine

[trail plinth]

what the

[trail ether]

I would have played as her (the trailer girl) - i have some non-negligible resemblance in fact

being a (small) part actually mongolian helps

[elder bolt]

Scary to think people who make stuff like this are part of society tbh

[karmic drum]

Who are you replying to here?

[barren oar]

you

[karmic drum]

Oh

Okay 😅

[barren oar]

since the next replies are about killing stuff

[trail plinth]

specifically the part about larger playerbase as a result of being able to kill creatures

[barren oar]

(and the although implies the messages afterwards are a continuation to the one prior)

[barren oar]

see i prefer to think of these as bait posts and go on about my day

way easier to reason about with life that way

[karmic drum]

Yea, I feel like if Charlie and Ted got it right the first time... game probably wouldn't exist. But on the flip side... if more less generic games like subnautica or prey 2017 came out as intended and were successful... it might've shaped what gaming is today in a better way.

[barren oar]

i really doubt it would have went in a better direction

most of the slop is aaa games made by huge companies which would not have changed for the better as a result

[karmic drum]

Omg.... I unironically saw CSperson claim they devs were doing performative activism in the subnautica 2 chat the day before last 😭 😭 😭 😭

[barren oar]

and indie titles, the ones that are generally actually good, will be not half-baked, regardless of how subnautica developed

[karmic drum]

Not a huge impact no. Just more flakes in the snowball of possibilities

[trail ether]

your "would not be as successful"

[barren oar]

(obviously there's exceptions on both sides)

[trail ether]

discord dropped the reply

[karmic drum]

Fucking discord

Okay, I really overchecked my phone. Gonna return to my nap now.

[trail plinth]

sleep well, don't have dreams about reapers

[barren oar]

also ive gone back and reread on this out of curiosity, isnt the spitting thing just gasopods lol

it just comes out of the other end

are gasopods the creature? or the item? i dont remember since i never really think about it

...do they even spawn anywhere else besides the shallows

oh gasopod is the creature and gas pod is the item which i guess is fair enough

apparently they should be present in the dunes and crash zone mesas too (according to the wiki) but i genuienly do not remember seeing one in those places in my life

[pine ginkgo]

Hello

Hope all is well, been playing a bit of SN2 and also messing with SN1 VR. Has C2C had any notable updates in the last 6 months? Thinking about starting a new save while Im back on the SN grind

[trail plinth]

Latest update was sometime in February iirc

updates have more or less stopped for legacy to my understanding, but take my word with a grain of salt. It's mostly been preparing for updating to 2.0

[pine ginkgo]

Oh wow, last I was really active in here a 2.0 upgrade was closer to a myth than reality

[trail plinth]

well there is a port of C2C to 2.0, though the experience may not be 1:1

[pine ginkgo]

Yea Id probably wait for Reika to release an official version

[trail plinth]

It's more or less endorsed by Reika, with the whole "this will become obsolete when I update C2C to 2.0 myself"

This

[pine ginkgo]

Right, Id still probably wait for her to upgrade it herself

Maybe Ill do my next C2C playthrough in VR

Now that would be something

[trail plinth]

yeeee that'd be cool, been thinking of doing hte same thing

I can only imagine what kind of jank interactions would be present lmao

[pine ginkgo]

Yea the issue is that native VR support sucks, but SubmersedVR is pretty solid

Only 2.0 though

[trail plinth]

ahhhh damn, that's unfortunate

[pine ginkgo]

I think the biggest issue would be some UI interactions but Im no modder so there’d probably be more

[trail ether]

i got the idea playing SN2

the needlers

the inner walls of their nest is COATED with embedded spikes

great environmental storytelling, esp the bunch around the black box and the haul chassis

but i liked the idea of such a collectable

[trail ether]

i would love a VR C2C

[pine ginkgo]

Yea there’d probably need to be some compatibility work done between submersedVR and C2C

But the 2.0 would need to happen first

Not sure how many people would play it but I think it would be cool

I think theres a VR mod for legacy too, just not as refined

[trail ether]

FIANLLY https://i.imgur.com/O9dkHMg.jpeg

[tiny wagon]

What mod do you have that lets you craft in batches?

I should add it to my save

[karmic drum]

It's bulk craft I think

[tiny wagon]

Big thank yous!

[karmic drum]

Kinda sad that according to the mod page. It doesn't work with easy craft in 2.0

[trail plinth]

oogh

[tiny wagon]

Ough that sucks

[untold kiln]

I would like to request that when C2C updates to SN2.0 that the massive "YOU MUST UPDATE NOW, OR BE FOREVER CURSED TO NOT SEE ANYTHING ON THE TOP HALF OF THE SCREEN" message not apply to the final legacy build

[trail plinth]

it shouldn't, I just booted up with the latest build and got no such message

[untold kiln]

Mostly cuz I plan to stay in legacy for awhile while I wait for FCS, but also because anyone who manages to learn how to install legacy branch these days should(in theory) be savvy enough to know not to spam Reika with bug reports for an outdated version

[untold kiln]

"when it updates to 2.0" I mean officially lol

It hasn't happened yet, I'm asking preemptively

[trail plinth]

ohhhh fair

It shouldn't either way, assuming you are up to date

oh wait I see what you mean

[untold kiln]

ye lol

[trail plinth]

I'd imagine hte legacy build would be separate from the 2.0 build, and shouldn't be connected

[untold kiln]

Of course, the issue then becomes "how would anyone download the legacy C2C version" since Reika's only download is the latest

[trail plinth]

I'd imagine once the 2.0 port is more or less the main one, reika will probably discontinue the legacy versions, but that's just my speculation

[untold kiln]

I'm fine with the legacy versions being discontinued, I just would like to still play C2C on legacy without having half my screen blocked out by "UPDATE NOW"

Alternatively, if someone could perhaps guide me to what code I would need to comment out to get rid of that message for my own local installation, I'd be fine with that too

[trail plinth]

I don't think there's any action to take on your end since it's not an issue currently, and realistically shouldn't be an issue

[untold kiln]

But it will be an issue once the main branch of C2C updates to 2.0, if Reika continues the usual pattern

Cuz I plan to stay on Legacy until FCS updates to 2.0

Which means I'll be stuck on an old, legacy version of C2C

Which means I'll be stuck with that "UPDATE NOW" message blocking half my screen once that happens

Granted, this is assuming I haven't A: finished this run by then, or B: I decide to do a second C2C run between when C2C updates to SN2.0 and when FCS eventually does, but still

[trail plinth]

It will be patched once the github repo is updated for 2.0

[trail ether]

UITweaks

[tiny wagon]

big thank you

[untold kiln]

What's the harvesting range for the autofarmer?

I'm planning out how I want to lay out all my farms and I want each autofarmer to only harvest a single type of resource

...and there's at least a dozen plants to harvest lmao

[trail plinth]

it has a fairly large range tbh, don't know the exact numbers, but it can harvest from many growbeds across at least 1 foundation of length

[untold kiln]

Fun, guess that means I'll be massively expanding the base just to fit a bunch of farmers lol

I wish there was a way to tell it to only harvest a specific resource

[trail ether]

https://i.imgur.com/WcMNldt.jpeg

and i am not even playing nonstop

[untold kiln]

Nice! 😄

[trail ether]

i keep pausing

[untold kiln]

It helps that you, as the mod author, know exactly where everything is lol

These are all far enough apart, right?

[trail ether]

i am not exploiting that

[trail ether]

for what

[untold kiln]

ah

[untold kiln]

To make an autofarmer for each growbed, since iirc they just harvest everything in range

I don't want my alkali vines farmer getting clogged with blood oil, for example

I'm hoping these are far enough apart, but I don't particularly expect them to be

Hm. Slight issue. The deep vine item is 1x1 in inventories, but they take up space in the planter equivalent to a 2x2

[trail plinth]

there might be some overlap, but I'd imagine that might be far enough apart?

also yeah I tend to pair crops together by size

I'd do creepvine + seed clusters + deepvine in one autofarmer, stuff like that

[untold kiln]

Eh, I'd prefer to have one type of produce per farmer, cuz then if I use more of one type over another, it'll just get clogged with the item I don't use

Once I can afford/unlock FCS stuff, a lot of this becomes obsolete, but eh

[trail plinth]

yeah for the most part

[untold kiln]

I'm sure that's why I still haven't found the FCS databoxes lol

I'm glad SN2 got rid of the legs lmao

[trail plinth]

yeah they are really jank

good conceptually, terrible execution

[trail ether]

oh this is lucky - i got swim charge fins from a time capsule!

[untold kiln]

Nice!

[trail ether]

that is right at the limit of allowable loot

[untold kiln]

That's a massive sequence break lol

[trail ether]

but it does not change progression

[untold kiln]

True, it's just QoL

[trail ether]

it is not

if it did it would be removed like for the laser cutter, stasis rifle, etc

it just makes my life a little less annoying

[untold kiln]

I mean in regards to what it takes to craft them

[trail ether]

ah

yes

[untold kiln]

Not in what they give you

[trail plinth]

thermoblade would be in that category as well

[untold kiln]

^^

[trail plinth]

since it's post modification station

but reika adds it anyway :p

[untold kiln]

Honestly I have no use for the thermoblade, the morale system makes it all but useless

There's no non-spoiling plant-based food, which means I can at most eat 2 fish before my morale starts dropping

[trail plinth]

3 actually

first one is morale bonus

[untold kiln]

Ah, I stand corrected

[trail plinth]

took htis screenshot like an hour ago cause I thought of you lmao

[untold kiln]

XD

ty

[trail plinth]

but yeah 3 is the limit, and there's also a bit of a timer for when the dietary tracker resets

[untold kiln]

I always make sure that the last piece of food I eat before leaving a seabase is plant-based just in case, but

[trail plinth]

not sure what the time limit is, but it's short enough that you can manage

[untold kiln]

What happens when it resets, do you get the morale bonus, or does it go straight to the morale warning?

[trail plinth]

it resets as if you hadn't eaten anything basically, so the first thing you eat is a morale bonus

[untold kiln]

Huh

[trail plinth]

not intended apparently

[untold kiln]

In that case, if you don't mind suboptimal morale bonuses, then you could absolutely subsist entirely off reginalds lol

Since 3 of them fully refill your hunger meter

I'd been assuming it never reset

The pain of living in range of a tiger plant

ded~1

[trail plinth]

yeeeah, I didn't realize it was unintentional

oop

strong tiger plant

[untold kiln]

It takes awhile between repairs lol

[unreal flame]

UITweaks

[untold kiln]

Lol one side of the autofarmer is backwards

Does the autofarmer use power?

I assume it does, cuz my base is now out of power lol

[unreal flame]

Mostly just because of UI stuff, right?

[pine ginkgo]

Yea thats what Id assume

[untold kiln]

Good lord, autofarmers take a lot of power

Sweat

[pine ginkgo]

I cannot imagine there is much extra

[unreal flame]

I’ve got a few ideas for how this sequence could go

Both in dialogue and structure

[trail ether]

i am eager ot hear them

[trail ether]

i cannot fix this

the UV is flipped on the other side

[untold kiln]

ah rip

[trail ether]

also

😛

[untold kiln]

For some reason my autofarmer next to my ghostweed planter refuses to harvest more than a single blood oil?

idk why its capacity is massive, I assume it matches the wall lockers or something

There's plenty of blood oil right next to it

And the base has lots of power

I've also seen it zap the plants a couple times, yet no blood oil

[untold kiln]

Purple tablet acquired! 😄

[trail plinth]

yippeeeeee

also either the autofarmer is being a pain, or it's slow by design since it's supposed to be a passive way to farm for stuff. Ie if you're in a hurry, you do it manually, otherwise it'll stockpile plant parts over time

It was decently quick last I used it, like a few seconds per harvest, but it could have been nerfed since then since it ignores the whole "regrow" part of all the crops it harvests

got my first nanocarbon of the run, before the mobile vehicle bay, wahooooo

[gentle pebble]

The autofarmer doesn't actually harvest crops, it just produces the appropriate material magically every once in a while

[trail ether]

it is supposed to ungrow them but it is ridiculously unstable

the farming system in SN1 is a ness

growing plants are a different kind of entity from fully grown plants, both of which are different from true plants, let alone their seeds

and there is a whole inventiry mocking system to occupy the slots for them too as they are not items

[normal rune]

i assume that system is part of why growing a creepvine in a single-height APU (which apparently requires double-height) completely breaks things for a bit? or at least did back when i played the mod over a year ago?

[trail plinth]

it'll stop growing at like 50%

that's about all that happens, or at least all that should happen

[normal rune]

over a year ago, so i dont remember full detail... but i had to find a way to delete the room/APU completely through commands

[trail plinth]

oogh, yeah that sounds pretty rough. Haven't had that happen in any of my runs, nor heard anything about that, so chances are it was a fluke or has since been fixed

[normal rune]

most likely. all i know is it broke bad lol

[untold kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-butler-confused-jimmy-butler-confused-eye-squint-gif-12144635464811342257

I've never seen these before in my life

[trail plinth]

you're about to see a lot of em

also 99.99% certain you've seen them, but maybe just not noticed them on your way to something else

[untold kiln]

LBR, that means the same thing, really

Bottom line is, I have no idea where to start looking for them

I haven't scanned them, at any rate

[trail plinth]

one of those things that you stumble across long before you start needing them

[untold kiln]

lol I forgot to scan lumenshroom oil

Hm, I wonder

[trail plinth]

not sure if it's fixed, but the pickup you get is different from the item in your inventory

[untold kiln]

...?

[trail plinth]

so if you drop and scan the oil from your inventory that should update

[untold kiln]

Oh that

[trail plinth]

it's a packaged item mechanic, ie item that gives more than just 1 thing, like with the ingots/boules turning into 5-10 of an item

[untold kiln]

For a sec I thought you meant the tonguelily

[trail plinth]

oh lmao

also yes, the survey status tracker would be immensely helpful here

[untold kiln]

istg if it's in the filter coral cave system

[trail plinth]

the cave is like 300-400m no?

[untold kiln]

It starts at 170-ish

[trail plinth]

hm, I must be misremembering

[untold kiln]

I don't see any there though, so moving on

[trail plinth]

you can also check the status page every so often to see if it updates, since it'll update based on line of sight, proximity, and in the case of creatures I think sound and aggression

[untold kiln]

No change yet

Which is weird cuz there really aren't many locations at that depth in that biome, it's not a large biome

GOT IT

[trail plinth]

YIPPEEE

scan it and read the page

[karmic drum]

READ IT

DO NOT SKIP

[untold kiln]

oh that

[karmic drum]

PLEASE 😭

[untold kiln]

I see

ty lmao, it probably would've been awhile

[karmic drum]

And appreciate that you're playing after getting that material is fixed

[trail plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-sweet-victory-victory-trumpets-sweet-gif-16559890436415546376

WE DID IT

[untold kiln]

wdym

Also it's not a voice log, it's a databank entry

[karmic drum]

You'll find out eventually

[trail plinth]

the voice log bugged out I think

[untold kiln]

hehehehehe

😄

[trail plinth]

now catch it! :p

[untold kiln]

Wow, from 100 to 0 morale in 1.5 seconds

If that

I have 17 disinfected water and counting

Nanocarbon's gonna be hard to get my hands on

[karmic drum]

Keep your eyes to the sky

[untold kiln]

I'm familiar with how it works, ye

I keep getting jumpscared by the excessively loud splashing sounds

Seems to be a party at 0, 0, 0

I'mma just AFK while standing above the surface of the water on my Seamoth until I hear the fireball

[karmic drum]

Fair enough start

Strat*

[trail ether]

WOO https://i.imgur.com/okr38dI.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/1StMo9z.jpeg

get back from spending hours making dinner and major milestone

[untold kiln]

How often does the nanocarbon fall?

Also congrats! 😄

[karmic drum]

That feels amazing every time I hit that in c2c

[untold kiln]

Oh god now it's pink??

[trail ether]

aslo this just happened https://i.imgur.com/1w4V47u.jpeg

[karmic drum]

Did you pass through it with the scoop?;

[trail ether]

so ACUs and azurite for me soon

[karmic drum]

Hell yea

[untold kiln]

Haven't crafted that yet

[karmic drum]

Stasis rifle up and coming

[karmic drum]

Well then...

No clue

[untold kiln]

"accumulating minerals" wat

[karmic drum]

Just let it do it's thing

Trust

https://tenor.com/view/surprise-tool-mickey-mouse-mickey-clubhouse-gif-18764497

[untold kiln]

Can't atm cuz I need the tendrils

[karmic drum]

You can go harvest more

[untold kiln]

Working on expanding my farm atm

How many of them do I need before the plankton goes away

MayanoCry

[karmic drum]

I could be wrong... but I don't think they're made for removing the plankton

[untold kiln]

Huh, the autofarmer doesn't work for blood oil or for kelp seeds

That's annoying

[karmic drum]

Plus you have the EM suit right?

[untold kiln]

Not yet no

[karmic drum]

Oh

Couldn't make it after all?

[untold kiln]

...I just noticed that sealed fabric is not a blueprint I have access to. The fuck?

"limitless regeneration" my ass, it only lives through like 4 hits

The tonguelily I mean

It's nice, having access to the contents of my autofarmers from inside the base 😄

I somehow have 85 reginalds???

Nope, it's just bugged lol

[trail ether]

and people say this is hard to find ||https://i.imgur.com/pV7bNhi.jpeg||

[trail plinth]

not enough reginalds, need more reginalds

[untold kiln]

Is that the ||mountain|| cave?

[trail ether]

the little disconnected one, closer to the gun moonpool entrance

[trail plinth]

||they are||

[untold kiln]

ah. Huh.

[trail plinth]

You'll notice that the plankton seem to react to various things in unique ways

in larger clusters it's hard to tell though

[untold kiln]

Yay, more completely unexplained game mechanics

[trail plinth]

it's relatively minor tbh

you could go the entire playthrough without noticing and it won't really affect you

[untold kiln]

It seems that just planting them next to the entrance to my seabase isn't enough

[trail plinth]

it's not a quick effect

[untold kiln]

Ah. Does having more of them make it faster?

[trail plinth]

yes, but only to a point

I just put clusters of 4 in a plant pot on each entrance tbh

[untold kiln]

Well, I've got a full growbed of them lol

Gonna put an autofarmer next to it when I can afford it

[trail plinth]

I could be wrong, but I think they may be less effective in the growbed but that could just be my speculation

[trail ether]

THERE IS ACTUALLY A ROCK THIS TIME https://i.imgur.com/OyBxZ8H.jpeg

omg https://i.imgur.com/nvJVjwu.jpeg

also https://i.imgur.com/zIna3zp.jpeg

[trail plinth]

wahoo