or in other words its piss easy
#SeaToSea
barren oar
worldly valve
i do yeah
barren oar
yeah so its like 10s per lubricant
worldly valve
but 4=1 oil
barren oar
+- inefficiencies in moving around
worldly valve
so run outside, grab 4-6, maybe 8 if i dump inventory
make 2 oil
it was so manual
motors suck to make without easycraft lolololol
lead i just always had a rather full small locker full
never really runs out
barren oar
ironically i think i was just always short on lead
barren oar
yeah i dont see it either
worldly valve
ill put that in my overthinking nothing bin
note also my current playthroh isnt my first, so a lot of the scanning for data box's and frags wasnt needed
i mostly know where it all is
so my scanning rooms are largely built for looking for stuff
and my main base is pretty good at searchin, tho i wish i placed it a bit further from the dunes
worldly valve
my 2 fabricators and modification station are lonely
barren oar
how tf do you man 2 fabs
one's fast enough for me unless im making the final product instead of an ingredient in the tree
which is usually the only thing that takes more than a second or two
worldly valve
i can usually start/just about start the next one by the time the first one finishes
especially for bigger items
barren oar
crazy
worldly valve
its been a habit for a long time
its especially useful for mass titanium ingot projects via the sunbeam
im gonna go back there later...i have a stupid goal of collect all the sunbeam
thanks for the supply drop guys 
i never found the second nanolathing drone reika mentioned
i think ive underestimated machine rooms. was i supposed to get 16 micro gel from my first ever process?
recipe says 8
ohhh...i think ive crafted it twice and im dumb
but i swear i only put 3 vines in
but 23 gel so..
worldly valve
i think ive mentally solved why you have less lead than me and its obvous...you have bigger bases which means more foundtion
barren oar
oh yep the 300m deep underwater islands base did consume a lot of lead
and general convenience to have 2 planters (cant remember which) on foundations at main base for organisation
vertical connectors cost a surprising lot of stability when they're only really like 1/3 of a corridor
though i guess the glass is what makes them unstable (despite glass not being a component of them)
barren oar
you wont need to build a base whose height is 300m if you know what you're doing dont worry about it
it is an easy way to remove any and all threat at that location (you may already know, or know about it later), though you do trade away your time for it
abstract knoll
yall use any map mods?
abstract knoll
i just cant seem to collect the phytoplankton
its there
my seamoth has almost been destroyed 5 time
but i only have 2 samples
worldly valve
where are you collectin
worldly valve
||crag||
abstract knoll
ah
i was fishing off the crater edge of Dunes
also
ive found like 12 time capsules in my world so far
sorry 9
trail ether
why are you acting like you are 12
abstract knoll
because im an immature person who has a fear of the ocean
also yea i do realize i am acting pretty stupid
flint aspen
Ive just now seen that there is a buildable|| autofarming unit|| that i somehow still havent unlocked after hundreds of hours. I feel like ive combed every wreck from top to bottom... Is there a databox for it?
abstract knoll
yes
very much yes
i have a question of my own
actually nvm
ay so
if i enter a seamoth after being below 500 meters
am i supposed to be continually damaged and unable to get oxygen?
or would this be a bug?
flint aspen
am i supposed to be continually damaged and unable to get oxygen?
the damage from diving too deep continues for a few seconds usually even after entering the moth
abstract knoll
yea
but
even im no longer being damaged
when i enter the seamoth
im suddenly being damaged
and cant breath
there
fixed it by geting in and out several times
only get damaged when in my seamoth
flint aspen
thats strange...
abstract knoll
yep
worldly valve
If you go below 500 with air it hapoens if you break surfave too
How long depends on how longer below 500
trail ether
why are you just mindlessly following a wiki to complete C2C
abstract knoll
why are you just mindlessly following a wiki to complete C2C
im not
i am infact exploring
abstract knoll
How long depends on how longer below 500
ah
thank you
so essentially the bends
ive used the wiki maybe twice and that was trying discover what litho gel is.
cause im currently stuck in my progression
abstract knoll
but of course
it doesnt have litho gel in it's database
and arnt on the Sea To Sea website
so im feeling a bit crazy
abstract knoll
why are you just mindlessly following a wiki to complete C2C
ok so question, What is Litho gel? I have checked the C2C Homepage list of added materials and I cannot find Litho Gel anywhere.
worldly valve
what biomes have ypou completed?
abstract knoll
i am working my way through but i feel insane because its not on the C2C page
worldly valve
i get that but inb game on your biome tracker
abstract knoll
it exists correct?
worldly valve
what biomes have you completed?
abstract knoll
let me load up subnautica
abstract knoll
ok so question, What is Litho gel? I have checked the C2C Homepage list of added...
Nvm to this
Deep Degasi, Dunes Arch, Dunes Meteor, Eastern Grassy Plateaus, Floasting Island, Glass Forest, Grand Reef, Jelly Shroom, LP 14, LP 9, Mushroom Disk Forests, Mushroom tree, Northern Kelp, QEP, Southern Grassy Plateaus, Dunes, Underwater Degasi, Western Grassy plateaus
abstract knoll
oh boy
Bulbs, Crag, Crash, Crater, Mt Island, Northern Blood Kelp, Sparse Reef Fissures, Underwater Islands, Underwater Mountans
and all undiscovered ones under 500 Meters
mostly because some of these are below 500 Meters
worldly valve
well that is a short list at least
its probably not creater edge
so dont strat there
barren oar
am i supposed to be continually damaged and unable to get oxygen?
ryley's lungs are crushed by the pressure so he cant breathe for a while after entering an oxygen area
actually i do wonder if you can cheese progression towards the lbs with a long oxygen pipe
not that its terribly useful before you get its counterpart anyway
abstract knoll
you see i would love a map mod so i can know where ive been
but my game decides that it must kablooie its self every other time i try to boot a save with one.
worldly valve
i didnt realise how rough the cave with mercuy ore became
not only is the heat awful
but the seamoth gets thrown around
Thata a reallt rough combo
abstract knoll
Debating adding FCS
worldly valve
The moth?
I guess i need hardsuit for it now
Thats a big change
Least there is some.mercury thats safe to get
Hopefully the 2 free plasteel ingots are enough
Or maybe hest sink will stop the extreme wobble,m
worldly valve
Yeah it does
barren oar
it makes sense since you dont really need mercury until when you can harvest the 90% that exists solely there
abstract knoll
Bulbs, Crag, Crash, Crater, Mt Island, Northern Blood Kelp, Sparse Reef Fissures...
welp i have completed bulbs, crag, sparse reef Fissures
still nothing
ill pick up the search tommorow
good night all
worldly valve
definitel=y some kind of bug in bioreactors
sometimes seeds just dont get processed
ive had it happen ti blood oil a couople times
and no ive had a creepvien seed in there for about 2 hours, it produces nothin
did interior growbeds get limited?
i can only put min in the centre and the corers of the room
just red in the sides
barren oar
do you have an acu under the room perchance
worldly valve
bioprocessor
barren oar
because acu ceilings extend just slightly above floor level, so it would enter its hitbox were you to try placing the growbed too far on the sides
hm
worldly valve
eh oits fine
its just a bit weird
normall i do lik 3 rows of 3
instead in have an x
ive never used a full room anyways
worldly valve
Im tempted to turn off hardmode until my nid game bioprocessing is done
Its so slow
flint aspen
Whats the current state of ||tonguelily|| research? 😅 Im getting kinda sick of the ||salt roulette||...
unreal flame
||Salt roulette|| being the only option is misinformation
barren oar
yeah reika did hint at what you're supposed to do with a surprising amount of detail (including a picture of the setup)
just that it hasnt really been recreated successfully yet? failures so far were regarded as bad luck
(but why is a game mechanic relying on luck when the setup is obscure as-is)
flint aspen
||Salt roulette|| being the only option is misinformation
you mean that there are more than two confirmed ways?
flint aspen
yeah reika did hint at what you're supposed to do with a surprising amount of de...
Yeah at this point ive seen all conversations about this... but i guess there are still no players (other than Reika herself) that have really managed to do it, am I right?
barren oar
yeah but there havent been many attempts either, from what ive seen
worldly valve
||Salt roulette|| being the only option is misinformation
No one in this chat has stated they have gotten lillies to work. Reika has inplied a couple peopels setups were unlucky
I havent heard if anyone getting tungsten without the salt roulettw
(Tho tbh if you have
A scan room in a salty area
Salt rpulete will take like 30 mins mayne
worldly valve
yeah but there havent been many attempts either, from what ive seen
There has been a few. I keep meaning to but im in the buay work mid game where its just endless crafting lol
worldly valve
Bio proccessor is really rough on hard mode
barren oar
Salt rpulete will take like 30 mins mayne
you need ~3.3 || salt cubes || per tungsten
because it's a ~30% droprate
which. 15 salt per? or so?
worldly valve
Not only does is refuse to work unless you have over 4k power
barren oar
and you need a shitton of tung
worldly valve
Any less than 4k power and it says too weak even when you have enough power
barren oar
Not only does is refuse to work unless you have over 4k power
tf?
worldly valve
Yeah but with a scan room in a good area you can get a full inventory of salt in less than 5 mins
barren oar
where the fuck do you have salt in such a high quantity
does it spawn under the brine or something and i just completely missed it my entire time in the lr
but yeah you could set up like 39 bioreactors to support 5 water filtration machines and get the salt passively
worldly valve
I out my scan roosm on biome corners
Corner of red grass and kelp is great
Part of my lack of testing is my only base is in a planktonless biome🥲
barren oar
could just go into creative
so you dont need to spend too much time testing
or better yet, freedom and toggling all the cheats manually because trying to play in creative cuts your fps in 3 for some reason
worldly valve
Yeah but thats time i could be progressing the resource gsther and tech gathering
I have the resources to build a basic farming outpost short of auto farmers
(Tho to be honest, auto farmers actually seem useful now that ive been using easycraft)
(Without rasycraft i cant imagine why someone would use an auto farmer. You will get less output from more time without rhe easyvraft bit.
barren oar
you can leave them to do the work while you're out and about
and come back to plenty of resources, where otherwise you have a high chance of running out
worldly valve
Yeah bit without easy craft you still need to go grans them from the auto farmers box
Which doesnt really save time over stabby stabby
But also costs heavy resource use via power
barren oar
you save yourself the hassle of fucking killing the plant by accident
genuienly so annoying when it dies and gives you like 8 seeds
but you dont get them because your inventory is full
so you end up with less resources than if you'd stopped a swing before
the power drain yeah ive seen its awful
couldnt hold one planter with a bioreactor in my test world
worldly valve
I dont find that so annoying tbh
Usually i have a dedicated grow bed
6 plant 1 type
Its hella overkill but i find 3 is underkill
Tho acid mushrooms. I honestly think i could grow like 8 beds of acid mushrooms and it would never be enough
worldly valve
but you dont get them because your inventory is full
I lied a bit i do find this part sad
barren oar
lol
worldly valve
couldnt hold one planter with a bioreactor in my test world
Jebus
Some of the power changes came brcause reika realised people werent using nuclear
Si with how plasteel is clearly locked behind the river currently
If it possinle to soft/hard lock the save by mis using the 2 free plasteel ingots?
barren oar
i dont even remember what theyre used for
?? wait its post-river ??
what part of this recipe is post-river
the plasteel
worldly valve
Well the cave got super changed now
Where you get it
The moth is uncontrollable
And death outside the moyh comes very fast, i dont think i have time to scan
barren oar
plasteel is a recipe you have from the get-go
and if not from the get-go then it's incredibly early, way more-so before you actually need it
worldly valve
||particulate filter||
barren oar
are you sure you are in the correct place
worldly valve
The cave is super super hot now, so you cant seaglide the cave anymore
And when inside the cave with the moth is moves around randomly
barren oar
you cant even get into the cave with the seamoth where you obtain that
the entrances are too narrow
barren oar
about the cave you're talking about, is the entrance nearby a geyser by chance
worldly valve
||there are numerous entrances but yes ||
barren oar
gg wrong cave
worldly valve
Luls
barren oar
||look for a big, menacing structure within the mushroom forest instead||
worldly valve
||so what particulate filter cave are you talking about||
barren oar
its a cave that connects that biome i just mentioned ^ with the one you're exploring
actually im severely doubting whether i do recall correctly about said structure now
biomes should still be good though ||mushroom forest <-> bulb||
barren oar
then it may just be a recent change i dont know about
worldly valve
||im surr therr are spots the moth cant go, but that cave is pretty designed around thr moth||
barren oar
though there's only been... 4 patches since i last played?
worldly valve
I think it is
My last half playthroough was pre tungsten "fix"
I learned the cave has chaotic movment in Lairians playthrough
(Lairians playthrough is on youtube if interested)
Tho lairian was on easy mode and could scan all the stuff without death
barren oar
my latest save is one of these im not too sure
and i dont give enough of a shit abt this mystery to switch branches in all honesty but like this must be a really recent change if thats how it is
and honestly quite a weird one too considering you can find the entrance even before the seamoth mk1 depth module
worldly valve
I tjink its meant to be a gatekeep
Seems like an experiment with gatekeeping that doeant involve depth
Now to be fair plasteel isnt needed mostly
But i wanna go through and see if a hard lock is possible to create by accident
You get the heat aink now near it
worldly valve
why are biorectors so broken:/
one of mine stopped producng power, just stuck onone of the fishies\
i should confess i live my life in super seaglide 9th
my perceptiosn may be altered
(tho actually super seaglide is almost a detriment qwhen collecting, so easy to fly by things)
and by super seaglide i relly mean
super azure seaglide
you know
yeah its just stuck on a fish:?
well i have a soft fix for it at least
worldly valve
woopsy
abstract knoll
well that isnt a spoiler
ive already used the || azurite battery in the repair tool ||
do the blood crawler larva come from an egg or do i need to go find them?
worldly valve
im not supposed to answer that
abstract knoll
so does anyone have an estimate for how long the || period of having crushed lungs is after being under 500 || ?
because i have legitimately waited 4 minutes and im still taking damage
so
i timed it
its a 4x cool down
every || 1 sec under 500m results in 4 secs of crushed lungs time ||
worldly valve
:/
i have a feeling nuclear will have a very similar issue tobioprociessing
i mean reacting
but im also suspecting this is all intended
abstract knoll
well never mind I guess
i cannot find the blood larve
nor any eggs
so im pretty sure || the Blood crawler nests just arnt spawning for me || any thoughts?
abstract knoll
another question
|| How am i supposed to reach the blood crawler nest to get larva if they are significantly below 500m? ||
worldly valve
so im pretty sure || the Blood crawler nests just arnt spawning for me || any th...
Where do you think they are?
I can tell you if they arent spawning
Its not "significantly" below 5pp
abstract knoll
|| I thought they were in the blood forest|| I spent a good while looking for them checked the logs to make sure I wasn't just stupid || and the log says that they're queued for world gen at these coordinates -841.1, -539.0, 1304.4 ||
abstract knoll
Where do you think they are?
ive checked caves in the blood forest, ive checked some of the open area, ive check both blood forests
abstract knoll
|| I thought they were in the blood forest|| I spent a good while looking for th...
these coords are in || the lost river area ||
worldly valve
Its a spefic cave
abstract knoll
Its a spefic cave
thank you BTW
errant cairn
Thanks for telling Reika that
abstract knoll
yeaaa
kinda wishing i didnt but
i figure it would be sort of difficult to fix?
meh
ill just infinitely dupe up a couple lockers before i update /j
so i have a question
where am i supposed to put the || Liquid Breathing Recharger || in my base because it seems like no matter where i try i cant get it to place down
abstract knoll
the || kharra syptom relief canister || is supposed to unlock after you get || Trace Enzyme 42 || right?
barren oar
no 😊 you find it later
barren oar
perhaps meant so you need to use one or two of the leser version before you get the upgrade
abstract knoll
ah
ok
small question
is there any way to access the inventory of the item collector?
mine just seems to eat items
barren oar
it autoinserts into a random container in one of the bases in its range
barren oar
so ideally you'd have a base solely for storage with it
otherwise you just get item pollution ye
barren oar
i dont think anything besides the base remains loaded at a distance
so the farm might only work when you're in range
not too sure about vents specifically though
but thats how geysers work too, which are about of the same nature
abstract knoll
yep goona set up a lantern tree farm and bring alloooooot of water
abstract knoll
I feel schizophrenic
was in || the Void spikes || and had a || ghost || rapidly approaching me
and then it blinked in and out of existence
and then disappeared
barren oar
they spawn there?
abstract knoll
yep
can confirm
as i did die
as soon as i get out of my seamoth
i get assaulted by 3
abstract knoll
same thing happened at ||life pod 15||
barren oar
yeah thats normal since you arent in the other biome yet
barren oar
did you explore further
barren oar
you might not be able to see land, but you can navigate using other features you might see in the distance
abstract knoll
thank you
barren oar
at the very least, ~a month ago it was perfectly navigatable without trial & error or the upgraded light module (source: me)
abstract knoll
okeee
flint aspen
I just built my first ||heat sink module|| for the seamoth. Ive read something about the ||heat sinks|| themselfes being ejected via the torpedo bay but i cant put them in there. How exactly does it work? Do i just keep them in my inventory?
Guess im gonna find out the hot way xD
barren oar
it hijacks the torpedo bay for its functionality
you interact with the same area where the torpedo bay interaction area is, to insert the disposables
may or may not be compatible with the torpedo bay itself, ive never used it because its actually just kinda trash
flint aspen
you interact with the same area where the torpedo bay interaction area is, to in...
Ahh thanks and here i thought there were sub-dependencies between different modules 😅
worldly valve
new hypothethis about bioreactors dont like to be overstuffed
abstract knoll
yea
flint aspen
Taking the cyclops down the river really is a days work... the thermal charge rate gets so abysmally slow 😪
Gonna put this on autoloop 🤣 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbneBPvCJTQ&list=RDJbneBPvCJTQ&start_radio=1
abstract knoll
i blast this while || traversing the void || https://youtu.be/F-5oGnvfUEU?feature=shared
abstract knoll
perhaps meant so you need to use one or two of the leser version before you get ...
yeaaaa nothings unlocked : (
barren oar
:)
abstract knoll
hate the fact it defaults my emoticons to emojis
flint aspen
perhaps meant so you need to use one or two of the leser version before you get ...
i can confirm that you can find it without ever using the lesser version but its a real headache... 😬
barren oar
yeah but the severely reduced ability to explore & linger really hinders your attempts
also do you really want to burn through your liquid resource
flint aspen
also do you really want to burn through your liquid resource
yeah if i had to do it again i would defintely use the ||enzyme traces || but i didnt read their description after crafting them way before liquid breathing so i assumed wasting two tanks was he only way 😑
barren oar
...multiple tanks work?
flint aspen
...multiple tanks *work*?
its only just doable but you really have to rush and open the door beforehand
barren oar
i see
flint aspen
if i hadnt known where to look first though it would have been impossible
barren oar
haha yep
flint aspen
i made a suicide run into the place just to check and even then i wouldve almost missed it xD
barren oar
originally, i went all the way to the ||disease reseach facility|| (spoiler not because it's a c2c location, but because it eliminates one possibility for the item's origin) because surely ||a facility designed to study the disease research facility would host data about said disease's temporary treatment relief method||
im still slightly salty about it i feel like thats a much better place for the upgrade than the fucking cyclops module that's there
flint aspen
originally, i went all the way to the ||disease reseach facility|| (spoiler not ...
yeah that would have made more sense
barren oar
and its not too difficult to reach either you just need to build a few outposts
even without using any of the lesser variants of the item (up until you need to explore it)
flint aspen
funnily enough i didnt even think it could be there because i didnt know about ||enzyme traces|| and with the two tank method it would have simply been impossible to reach...
barren oar
reach you can very easily with just one (by building outposts, which you will do anyway if you're normal and not using the electrical sealant module)
explore yeah you'll want multiple tanks or to use the item
flint aspen
yeah looking back the base building method would have made sense but at that point i hadnt yet resigned to really invest that much effort
now ive built more bases in the river and upper lavazone than all my other bases combined xD
barren oar
yeah thats what [lost river gimmick] and [lava zone gimmick] tend to do haha
i had like 5 outposts in the lr i think
that is including one in the lr cove ghost tree and the one nearby the drf for easy access
we love pretty bases
flint aspen
yeah ive built my main base in the tree cove now because it just way too much hassle to always go back up...
Minor question: Do you/does anybody know the recharge rate thats required to negate the rivers drain? I got myself the cyclops docking mod to dock at my main river base but the recharge rate isnt big enough and the ship still loses power.
barren oar
i think a better approach is to not bother
you will be able to overcome this challenge if you progress just a bit more
you wont be directly told when it's nullified, but you will notice and feel its effects
flint aspen
its not that big a deal since i can always use the heat vents but it just would be aesthetically pleasing to have it docked at my base
i dont want to make it overpowered but just enough to not make it lose power would be nice
ohh wait i think i know what you mean
yeah nvm i guess it will have to wait 🙂
barren oar
from main or supply
because thats what i was remembering too but i dont actually know which
er. supply was the small one right
worldly valve
Main supply is small one yeah
So you do get a good run
Heck enzyme traces work for both tanks on one run lol
Its kudt both the seondary tanks will get scruffed
barren oar
yep since the main tank isnt per-item but global
in a way per-player... with subnautica being a singleplayer game
though i would have assumed supply would be global too, hence two tanks would do nothing but waste your inventory space
worldly valve
Each tank ia its own but
worldly valve
though i *would* have assumed supply would be global too, hence two tanks would ...
They would be great if the second tank didnt drain rapidly sadlife
I wish it felt more natural
I dont really get why it drains
Tho o get thats its just meant to disable dual tanks
abstract knoll
finding the || khara syptom relief canister || is incredibly annoying
worldly valve
Did you find it
abstract knoll
Did you find it
not yet
silk pond
abstract knoll
oh boy
I feel this is a significant hint
but
i cant get past
|| the magnesium blue fire in the prawn bay ||
worldly valve
Maybe you need a new suit for that
abstract knoll
yep
working on it
small problem
|| I seem to be swarmed by 3 ghosties whenever i exit my seamoth in the void spikes ||
worldly valve
You should have a few seconds i think before they lock on
Should be enough to grab the thing
worldly valve
There also are a couple tools which could be handy down there
abstract knoll
had the same problem at || life pod 15 ||
worldly valve
Hop out, grab thing, hoo in? Hide behind small rock
abstract knoll
yeeeep
tried that
but i will be trying again
sorry
had to side strafe a reaper
oh
just found the || 4th Degasi Base Behind the Aurora ||
abstract knoll
You should have a few seconds i think before they lock on
so uh
got damn near insta killed
i cant find anything
i found || the single Life Pod 15 PDA and platform, but not anything else ||
worldly valve
Hum
Well there are at least 2 useful techs i can think of
Man voidspikes got made hard
||to be fair void spikes was kinda chill before...mostly darkness||
abstract knoll
yea
i need || Abysoclase and theres gotta be something out there ||
oh and || my acoustic suppression module has stopped working, completely, i get attacked the moment i enter the void||
debating making a second
worldly valve
Try taking it out and putting it back in maybe
I wouldnt make a second😅
That will use like all the azirite
abstract knoll
true
worldly valve
There are at least 2 techs that you are not using tjat woukd be helpful
Arguably 3
abstract knoll
|| cant get propulsion because i have no electrolytes ||
abstract knoll
There are at least 2 techs that you are not using tjat woukd be helpful
Sonar would probably help
so would || The increased light upgrade||
worldly valve
|| cant get propulsion because i have no electrolytes ||
Speed is not tje name of the game
abstract knoll
though so but had to be sure
holy shit
i keep hearing something
MASSIVE near me
i dont like it
oh
thats 3 ghost
past geyser
Lol
abstract knoll
uh
something is bugged
o2 is bugged too
|| so to get abyssoclase you need to dive below 500m but i cant seem to find any above 750-800m and i seem to run out of air before i can get back to my seamoth, am i supposed to construct multiple liquid systems?? ||
worldly valve
|| so to get abyssoclase you need to dive below 500m but i cant seem to find any...
Perhaps you dont have the needed tech
barren oar
yeah you're rushing things
barren oar
Arguably 3
which are those
you only really need one for exploring
er. Two absolutely required, one that they do not own yet*
worldly valve
|| decoys/torpedo tubes and rifle||
barren oar
||where tf are you usin decoys, torpedo or stasis in the void spikes||
do you need them for the really deep area? i didnt get to exploring that yet, myself
worldly valve
|| i used decoya to get to the void spikes way back when. Well sorta, the seaglide has a rather insidious punishment for dubious reasons||
|| tho causes an extremely cool moment that seemed scripted lololol||
|| the ghosts are all about to eat you then they poof out of existance. Its so cool it seems intended as fuck. But you teleport rapodly between the spikes and no where is you are in the glide||
|| see i think the stais rifle was always meant to be a thing based on how void spikes have been slowly made harder. Now a days the 3 ghosrs immmediately target you, even if you literally hop out of the moth for a half second. Tho tbh i have some doubts of this report.||
barren oar
idk i didnt experience that in my run through
i also didnt go at it balls to the wall and used the seaglide only in that biome
mostly because you really can't rush things in c2c, and you have no need to go there until you can go without worry
worldly valve
Well the seaglide was my first playthrough i actually ebat lolol
And tbh i thought i was doing ab intended method😂
Creature decoys are super effective vs one ghostiboy
But now they dont despawn if you insta moth hop i hear
||which is how i dis the biome before....find 1 abbysalclasse, maybe 2 together. Ans just hope out and in when the spawn||
I could go there now soon i gueaa
I have sealed suit so i can get the blue shit easily
worldly valve
decoration rating is what actuall gives benefits right
so i guess my -2 machine room is hurting me maybe
i do really wish i knew why my brioreactors broke ever 5 mimns
i thought it was uing 1 type of thing so i mixed
but shit breaks anyways
i thought it was because overstuffing
but it breaks sometimes with 1 item in it
maybe its mad i built 2?
abstract knoll
maybe its mad i built 2?
had similar things happen to me with 2
worldly valve
@trail ether ||bloodkelp cave is still having issues||
i have debug how do i check worldgen
abstract knoll
|| does anyone know the chances of there being a falling debris? ||
worldly valve
1 or 2 an hour
worldly valve
unforunately the best method i know is to site on surface of water at the ready
ive seen people say you cna get itif you are 200m down
but but the tiem you break surface the meteor has hit the water
so idk how anyone could have
outside of luck
theoretically rhe falling range is supposed to be not too big
but really it can fall anyways
anywhere*
abstract knoll
|| i mostly need carbon fiber which i figure comes from falling debris ||
worldly valve
it also it just under surface of water, it doesnt sink
oh nevermind, it started working after a min
worldly valve
damn
dont be afraito save scum it
i wish my bioproccors weent breaking constantly
barren oar
i wish my bioproccors weent breaking constantly
you have multiple?
abstract knoll
i wish my bioproccors weent breaking constantly
you mean bio reactors or?
abstract knoll
i might go to bed and try for || falling debris || tommorow
viral saffron
oh my god I just went up for air and I didn't hear the sound of the meteor coming down, just the LOUD ASS SPLASH NOISE when it landed right next to me
actually jumpscared me oh my god
barren oar
oh nice lucky
viral saffron
and I'm only an hour ish into this run
barren oar
usually its far enough that you can barely get to it with the seaglide upgrade
viral saffron
I had to restart for the 3rd fucking time cus switching versions despawns stuff like the modded data boxes and data chips
barren oar
though it might have also been the mechanic which spawns them closer to you if you havent grabbed any yet
barren oar
I had to restart *for the 3rd fucking time* cus switching versions despawns stuf...
c2c version?
or subnautica branch
barren oar
oh yeah never switch without making a backup yourself
viral saffron
went to 2,0 to play a different mod and when I switched back everything broke
barren oar
simply just rename SNAppData and BepInEx to something else when switching to-and-fro and you should be good
bep just for the convenience of not having to redownload qmm
and/or 2.0 mods
viral saffron
oh alr
barren oar
appdata is where your save data is stored for the recorde
viral saffron
first time I restarted was just cus I added fcs and wanted to restart
also is this just talking about the ||salve bushes?||
unreal flame
also is this just talking about the ||salve bushes?||
Probably
Hopefully we’ll soon figure out how to properly filter the PDA’s tts so it sounds correct for custom lines and all these sentence mixes can be replaced
viral saffron
how often do the nanocarbon, meteor, things, come down exactly? I got one a bit ago when it landed right next to me but I died of dehydration and lost it, and even in my save that was over a 30 something hours I only had one or two
barren oar
might have just been incredibly unlucky with spawn times lining up with when you were below the spawn depth (~200m last i heard around here)
because they most certainly are not once in 15h
worldly valve
it can have dead spots tho
abstract knoll
yea
i think my entire world is a dead spot
at the begining of my save
i had a ton of falling debris but i didn't know what it was so i didnt investigate it
now i have had zero falling debris in 2.5 hours
worldly valve
Maybe try chilling and doing stuff at 100m below? Idk😅
abstract knoll
I guess?
worldly valve
Im just wondering if the chilk on surface strat no lonfer works
abstract knoll
still no falling debris : (
abstract knoll
ive had zero debris over 4.5 hours
abstract knoll
the moment you hear it, save
yeeeeaaaa as it turns out it doesnt save the metor event
so i cant save scum it
unreal flame
i stand corrected
worldly valve
That was removed?
past geyser
Hydrate hydrate you're basically turning into a rock
worldly valve
||am i supposed to not be able to repair this databox in the crashzone||
Yes but maybe you are missin sonethin
flint aspen
I mined two uranite deposits with the rock crusher and now the radiation wont go away which keeps me from saving... Did someone ever experience that before?
And is there a fix? 😅 *radiation * command doesnt work...
abstract knoll
Does || Nanocarbon sink or float ||?
barren oar
||float just under the surface||
abstract knoll
ok thanks
will help with my search
maaaaaan
i allmost got 1
and then it disappeared just as the prompt popped up
abstract knoll
YEAAAAAAAAAAA
abstract knoll
qol?
abstract knoll
oh no i just needed 1 for the || tracking upgrade ||
barren oar
oh thats the qol i was vaguely hinting at yeah
abstract knoll
ah
yea
i think ive spent 6 hours AFKing waiting for metors and have only had 3
2 of which landed in the dunes
perpendicular to me
worldly valve
good you didnt make a wrong choice
i thi k there are two easy wrong choices
one being mk 3
oh how i pity da fool
barren oar
|| you meant the scanning module i pray ||
||there is not another tracking module made from carbon, is there||
worldly valve
||no really, but i figured id be paranoid and ask||
barren oar
honestly its kind of a weird item
worldly valve
but there are definity bad choices for the nanocarbon
barren oar
you're supposed to get it whenever it spawns (i assume), but until a few hours in you have no chance of reaching it
and until a few hours later, you also have no reliable way of tracking it
a few hours later, you have recipes that require it so you need to start grinding... but it spawns so infrequently that you'll be spending most time afk-ing
worldly valve
||isnt that box just in mushroom forest wreck? i guess i think its lasercuter||
barren oar
||it is, but the biome is split in two so you can spend a lot of time exploring the other + who looks up to find wrecks||
i dont remember if its gated behind anything
its also a relatively far biome from the origin so it'll be pretty late you get to truly exploring it
abstract knoll
ANOTHER ONE
abstract knoll
yep
abstract knoll
hmm ||still have not found calcite || will continue my search in the morning
good night all
worldly valve
its also a relatively far biome from the origin so it'll be pretty late you get ...
okay not enough free plat to get to hardsuit before
||filter||
which means gotta do the cave that both hates me and my seamoth
trail ether
except I do have a license
it is a slightly modified version of the one I made for my MC mods back in 2013
barren oar
okay not enough free plat to get to hardsuit before
skill issue tbh
trail ether
didnt remember seeing any on the public repo
...it is indeed missing from there
however
abstract knoll
when || a falling debris spawns || does it only spawn || 1 nano carbon || or mutiple spread out ?
Nvm
barren oar
...it is indeed missing from there
gg
abstract knoll
any recommendations in my hunt for ||calcite ||?
worldly valve
where have you been lookin
abstract knoll
ive check lost river
let me run through ze list
going to go check sparse, and crag
gotten as far as the tree and || orange gate of the DRF ||
abstract knoll
where have you been lookin
Bulb, Mts, , Sea treaders, and lost river
barren oar
keep your eyes a bit more peeled
the place where you find them easiest is very eye-catching
barren oar
this is about as concrete as i can unfortunately say it without spoiling it outright
because once you're looking for what sticks out it'll be decently obvious
abstract knoll
thanks
distant bloom
...it is indeed missing from there
This made me think: What if there was a license.md in all repos that helps link to your license page?
I had assumed that repos without licenses immediately means CC0, but today I learned on GitHub that having no license in the repo means this (image)
worldly valve
...
||something drained my subtank in liquid breathing...ive used it maybe once but its at 1477 seconds...i dont think ive been in river ||
barren oar
sorry i was thirsty
||its consumed even if you werent low enough to need to rely on it, maybe you just had it equipped for longer than you thought?||
||as in, even if you're above 500m, it won't switch to using o2 and being free for that period, it still consumes the liquid from the tank||
which is honestly kinda ass there should be a way to do that simply for qol
because otherwise you're wasting a few precious inventory slots & cant even do it if not inside of a base or vehicle
worldly valve
i think that it used to be a little nicer
it is rather ass
doesnt even make sense
is the tank not sealed?\
barren oar
i think it makes sense but it really just adds extra inventory management & space usage
worldly valve
im pretty sure its just 100% to make you unable to use multi tanks
why does it make sense?
barren oar
||because its main mechanic is that it does not use oxygen? so you dont get a free pass & need to use breathing liquid even if you're above 500m||
what does multiple tanks have to do with this
trail ether
This made me think: What if there was a `license.md` in all repos that helps lin...
no license means the exact opposite of CC and I would advise you make serious changes if you have in the past acted on the previous assumption
vocal crane
is this mod compatible with deeper waters mod?
barren oar
deeper waters is a 2.0 mod, this is a legacy mod
worldly valve
what does multiple tanks have to do with this
|| we are talking about how the sub tank drains liquid if not equiped below 500m? Pretty sure the main reason is so one cant use 2 liquid tanks below 500m mechanically. I find it strange that the secondary part of thenliquid breathing tank starts leaking below 500 when not equiped. Why does it stay sealrd when equiped?||
barren oar
||oh no i was saying it shouldnt drain liquid and instead switch to being pure o2 if you're above 500m||
barren oar
||because otherwise, to preserve the precious breathing liquid, you have to switch tanks whenever you're in a place where you can refresh it - otherwise, you start with 0 oxygen and drown near instantly||
vocal crane
is it ever gonna go 2.0
barren oar
it is planned to but work on it has not started as nautilus does not have a stable release yet, as far as im aware
vocal crane
ye cuz this looks like a fun mod
barren oar
(dont expect it to be done for a while even when nautilus releases, because all the mod's code has to be adapted to 2.0 standards, some places requiring more changes than others)
past geyser
But then we will have more mods blocked or modify with no option to allow it anyways
vocal crane
what mods do yall reccomend with this one?
barren oar
that too, if its a mod that plays around with vanilla's progression or balance too much then it's bound to be blocked
or at least modified, like fcs mods are
compatible, but modified to fit c2c's progression better
vocal crane
or at least modified, like fcs mods are
fcs?
barren oar
field creator studios, great automation-focused mod
past geyser
Ya but really an API that other mod can use to Link in so they can make it compatible so they don't have to do all this work
barren oar
er. fcs are the people behind the suite of mods*
barren oar
Ya but really an API that other mod can use to Link in so they can make it compa...
you really expect mods to play nice with c2c's progression
most mods dont balance themselves around vanilla
let alone a mod they may not have even heard of
past geyser
Well really it is a nicer option then just blocking them
vocal crane
ye cuz i got like around 90 hours of subnautica, took a break and im mostly lf some new stuff after returning to subnautica
to get that new feeling again
barren oar
Well really it is a nicer option then just blocking them
the blocking system will not be going away, im sure
past geyser
Also working with reika to make the balance would be better then just like oh it breaks progression. I know I would like to not have blocked mods when it comes to 2.0
barren oar
though of course if you have enough modding expertise you can modify c2c yourself (private modifications are allowed, redistribution is not, as per reika's license) to remove that block lol
past geyser
Or at least my mods
barren oar
the general category on its site gives a good rundown of what its about https://reikakalseki.github.io/subnautica/mods/seatosea.html
tldr modify vanilla progression to make you explore as much of the game's content as possible, whether it be using new technology or exploring more biomes/wrecks
vocal crane
yeah i might gotta try this mod even if its legacy
barren oar
its not designed to be for everyone but it is a great mod if you happen to be part of its intended audience
vocal crane
its not designed to be for everyone but it *is* a great mod if you happen to be ...
what audience would like the mod?
barren oar
uhh. exploratory? willing to try ideas? having basic reading comprehension? a general ability to link together information you know to progress? decent spatial awareness to find POIs?
c2c introduces puzzles and challenges that have to be overcome with what you already own and somehow making it work, in a sense
barren oar
not sure im describing it too well but the idea is there
abstract knoll
i mean its popped up the prompt for me but i would be hesitant to try it with mods
vocal crane
i mean its popped up the prompt for me but i would be hesitant to try it with mo...
worked for 2.0 with mods
just not sure if it works on legacy
abstract knoll
uhh. exploratory? willing to try ideas? having basic reading comprehension? a ge...
yeaaaaaaa these are crucial
can attest to this im a Littttttle impatient and blind
abstract knoll
worked for 2.0 with mods
oh cool
abstract knoll
yea fair
vocal crane
im suprised that these big dlc sized mods arent talked about much on yt
barren oar
c2c isnt really the type of mod that makes it big in such a video
there isnt a big scary creature or a sunbeam being eaten animation that can be used as clickbait
past geyser
It's just basically extending the gameplay with new story and items and modifications
barren oar
its best experienced as a blind playthrough or watching someone do a blind playthrough, since it does kind of lose its exploration charm if you already know where everything is
vocal crane
ill make sure to do that
barren oar
and it doesn't really lend itself well to challenge runs because of the new mechanics it adds (you couldn't start a run in the alz and need to make your way back up to the surface, for instance)
that and you cant really rush c2c
past geyser
Back and forth and scavenger hunt
vocal crane
im getting this when creating a new world with the all the reika mods.
theres no water now.
LOL
nevermind fixed it
now im running 10 fps
worldly valve
But then we will have more mods blocked or modify with no option to allow it any...
easycraft will save literally 5-10 hours easily lol\
barren oar
that is about as light a mod list as you can have with c2c so nothing with it
worldly valve
you want easycraft
vocal crane
that is about as light a mod list as you can have with c2c so nothing with it
yeah but for some reason im running suddenly 10 fps
vocal crane
oh really?
dAng
yeah
i am
LOL
i usually go creative to test the mods first if it all works
barren oar
yeah just open up freedom and run all the cheat commands yourself
oxygen, nocost, noenergy(?) etc
vocal crane
anything else reccomended before i start a new world?
barren oar
de-extinction is a nice mod if you want some extra creatures in your save, but c2c does integrate with it, for better (thermoblade + axetails is op) or for worse (every other mechanic in c2c that now adds integration for de-extinction fishie)
i do believe reika also shared her mod list here at some point...
where the fuck is it
vocal crane
lol
barren oar
fucking finally
those are Reika-Approved™ mods that you could also pick out from
presumably qol
vocal crane
alr
trail ether
Ya but really an API that other mod can use to Link in so they can make it compa...
most of the mods that C2C blocks are specifically designed to fuck up the progression, with most either being "configure things your own way" mods (which are mostly used to make things ridiculously OP, with the authors being fully aware of this) or are outright meme-level stupidity like flying laser cannon seamoth whose sole selling point is messing things up
there is no way the authors of a mod like that would ever make any attempt to adapt to C2C's progression because the whole reason for those mods is to undermine the very concept
barren oar
for a mod whose aim is to integrate into progression would you choose to patch it instead, then
like you'd done for voyager & fcs
past geyser
well voyager was nerf pretty hard i heard .. but really its not like its a sub its only on top of the water but i'm guessing the islands have some story parts that shouldn't be found early
barren oar
it was patched for another reason
that is related to the surface but not the islands necessarily
i also vaguely recall it being too fast and hence nerfed but im not sure if thats true or im making it up
past geyser
also seems like shaming the player seatosea likes does with labeling items spawned by comands and systems to destroy command spawned items seems kind of harsh ..
worldly valve
ive never had anything deleted
barren oar
assumed it was for debugging purposes though
worldly valve
tho ive spoawned very little
barren oar
deletion i think only happens for vehicle modules
past geyser
yes i think so
barren oar
ive been playing around in creative a while and they are destroyed if you have them too early
worldly valve
i spawnec stuff mostly when it was bugging
past geyser
but the things spawned being labeled seems unneeded
past geyser
well i know way they don't want deco mod installed not because the glitch
because you can place it down and then pick it up and it clears the message
trail ether
but the things spawned being labeled seems unneeded
that was done because people would not stop spawning things when they were too lazy to unlock/craft them and then hide thatfact
and then go on to get completely lost/softlocked/etc in progression and complain
the only reason i did not block spawning entirely was because it is sometimes necessary for debug
barren oar
does glowshroom oil still take on the form of the storage its in (rendering it useless) and/or disappear by itself
because thats the most annoying thing to obtain manually because its unplantable and it had this presumably unintended property
past geyser
well reika .. people are people and some just want to play how they want to play its like how a dm can have this story planned out and the players choose to go some other way . i guess you can just add a message that tells them they soft locked themeselfs like how some games have characters you kill and it tells you the save is messed up because you kill them
i know custombatteries can get out of hand for how much charge they can have ... and customcraft2 can do anything really
trail ether
does glowshroom oil still take on the form of the storage its in (rendering it u...
that happens rarely anda only to a single item at a time
I have had it happen but only to 3-5 items per playthrough, of hundreds
and sometimes it spontaneously reverts too
I have no idea wtf is going on
trail ether
well reika .. people are people and some just want to play how they want to play...
there is a large demographic I am not catering to
I would much rather they not even try C2C
past geyser
but thats not a choice you can make for people
but i understand .. you would rather have them play it how you want them to and subnautica dev would rather we play it like they want use too but they don't force us too
trail ether
barren oar
and sometimes it spontaneously reverts too
oh nice
might be related to how the oil is essentially two techtypes? with one the "natural" type and the other the picked up item
trail ether
but thats not a choice you can make for people
I may not have the power to force them but I can make them not want to try
hence the linked comments
barren oar
similar to how you can scan both in one run, but the second scan just gives you nothing (because the first scan already gave you its data page)
trail ether
if I put a big disclaimer in your face "if you want shits and giggles find another mod"
trail ether
might be related to how the oil is essentially two techtypes? with one the "natu...
maaaaaybe but the former never enters your inventory
and the fact that it is normal once picked up should mean that the conversion is irrelevant
barren oar
yeah idk why thatd be either but its the only thing i know separates it from any other item in the mod
trail ether
besides my PickedUpAsOtherItem works fine for other items
barren oar
er. that makes it distinct from
trail ether
never a single issue
trail ether
yeah idk why thatd be either but its the only thing i know separates it from any...
no it is not even unique in that
unreal flame
if I put a big disclaimer in your face "if you want shits and giggles **find ano...
Maybe a “what sea to sea expects from you” section
barren oar
you are making a big assumption by thinking users can read
unreal flame
lol
distant bloom
no license means the exact opposite of CC and I would advise you make serious ch...
Nope, thankfully have not copied anything unless explicitly marked as a license that allows such; this is from the perspective of an author of repos instead of a consumer of them.
I like to make my repo-work as open domain as I feasibly can so people can reuse or learn something if they wanted 🙂
Though I typically just do MIT and that's it. To be honest, I have not seen many repos that are in fact, license-less.
I am interested in playing this mod eventually, it think it looks cool :)
crystal bear
I've been out of the loop for awhile so I just wanted to ask, will aqueous engineering/dragon industries/ecocean and the like be ported to 2.0?
barren oar
yeah mit usually the goat but i'd imagine the waters get kinda muddied if you have sprite edits of vanilla items or such
because obviously you cant license those under mit and you either license the entire project or you keep it arr
barren oar
I've been out of the loop for awhile so I just wanted to ask, will aqueous engin...
its planned that work on 2.0 versions starts after there is a nautilus stable release
though c2c and co. have a lot of code that have to be ported, specifically with regards to prefab loading, so expect it'll take a while longer even after that
crystal bear
Ah ok fair enough
It should take as long as it needs I just didn't know if it was even planned or not so ty
unreal flame
yeah mit usually the goat but i'd imagine the waters get kinda muddied if you ha...
pretty sure RotA has varying licensing for code vs assets
worldly valve
It should take as long as it needs I just didn't know if it was even planned or ...
If you arent on epic store its probably the best mod out atm
Tho tjat is beggining to change, but still id say its the best
distant bloom
yeah mit usually the goat but i'd imagine the waters get kinda muddied if you ha...
I'm not referring to any mods, just from-scratch repos; Funnily enough I was not thinking of mods at all 😅
But if a mod is including assets or modified assets of another commercial work, then yeah, I can see how it's muddy. Not worth taking the chance.
But I've heard that since unknown words is initially founded upon a mod, I could see them being permissive about it. Best to ask them. But It looks like recolored assets have survived, so they must be okay
barren oar
pretty sure RotA has varying licensing for code vs assets
isnt the repo basically empty
barren oar
I'm not referring to any mods, just from-scratch repos; Funnily enough I was not...
ah yeah if you made everything yourself its obviously fair game
uwe are definitely very lenient but thats also why i think modders are generally careful about this sort of thing (i barely even see subnautica mods with a license), perhaps more-so than other communities
something something dont bite the hand that feeds you
barren oar
isnt the repo basically empty
https://github.com/ArchitectsOfTheUnknown/ReturnOfTheAncientsDemo/tree/main yeah theres like 15 files with just 3 being non-images lol what licenses
trail ether
Nope, thankfully have not copied anything unless explicitly marked as a license ...
I was mostly thinking in terms of custom copies of other mods
forking other people's mods is VERY common in many modding communities - my refusal to allow this is one of the primary sources of drama around me in the MC one - and "the license is permissive" is one of the primary justifications those doing it give
frankly even if the license does allow it I find it scummy but that is a separate discussion
distant bloom
Yep understood, I could imagine just how much that occurs in that scene
I think it's cool talking to ya, you've done a lot of work making many things, it's very inspiring and impressive :)
unreal flame
isnt the repo basically empty
i suppose that's also true lol
abstract knoll
because once you're looking for what sticks out it'll be decently obvious
i feel blind
screw the noise suppression
time for sonar
barren oar
it is an area you can not, right now, access with a vehicle
barren oar
also sonar is straight up useless lol its much worse than your eyes
abstract knoll
im also looking for ||rock crusher data box wreck ||
barren oar
noise suppression also only does anything for ghosties, in case you were using a precious upgrade slot for it as a general upgrade
barren oar
im also looking for ||rock crusher data box wreck ||
you need to unlock it?
barren oar
i dont remember unlocking it ever lol cant help much there
maybe just keep ticking off biomes off the checklist
barren oar
filter you have an entire area dedicated to its unlock lol that sounds like a bit of a skip
worldly valve
Its the geyser coral
Tho im struggling to get that lol
My strat was wait for hardsuit or make a million nanomeds
And just tank the damage
barren oar
no way the solution is to just inject yourself with copious amount of syringes thats bullshit
there is at least one more puzzle where you take some damage forced that i can remember and it was really light
er. two puzzles, with the second requiring maybe like 3 kits
3 upgraded kits, like 7 or 8 normal
dear god legacy takes a while to load i forgot how shit it is
oh i think i didnt update it should really warn you in the main menu
worldly valve
Im ptetty sure intended solution is || river, grab calcite n nickel, depth module/noise suppressiong/rifle>pod 15>get the stiff further out> hardsuit||
barren oar
nah im testing it right now you can survive 90% of the area's heat without equipment at all
you are definitely in the wrong place
(the last 10% is a geyser that periodically toggles)
abstract knoll
i have just a few enzymes
barren oar
all consumed in the matter of minutes 💔
abstract knoll
yep
barren oar
you might also be the first person i ever see to have a light stick in their inventory
barren oar
gg
barren oar
fair enough
worldly valve
nah im testing it right now you can survive 90% of the area's heat without equip...
|| the cave with the 10 red geyser corals?||
barren oar
Yes That One
worldly valve
Try it in hard mode
Also how does yoir seamoth work in there?
It gets wildly thrown around right
worldly valve
It def is
barren oar
fucking hell guess im switching branch again
abstract knoll
what mini moth you got?
worldly valve
Im.hoping back in one min
abstract knoll
fucking hell guess im switching branch again
what are you doing?
barren oar
i know exactly what cave you're talking about with the seamoth movement and it is not the one you're looking for