SeaToSea

[barren oar]

that you can realistically collect once if its full and never have to worry about it again

except maybe the rocket takes like 60 plasteel or something stupid

then you'd need to collect it thrice?

[willow fox]

bro, I wrote you a PM, can you answer?

[worldly valve]

I replies but i am a but preoccupied

Will answr when xan

[errant cairn]

what happens when you run out of power with the ||bioprocessor??||

i may have just lost a lot

depending on the answer

[worldly valve]

Sometimes it bugs oyt

Sometimes it finishes

[errant cairn]

either way i got what i needed the cycle i WAS running was optional

[errant cairn]

and when it doesnt bug out?

[karmic drum]

I'm pretty sure it voids any enzymes it was using

[errant cairn]

LAME

i lost 5 😭

[karmic drum]

Don't misjudge your power usage

Dw

[errant cairn]

i wasnt looking 😭

[karmic drum]

I learned the hard way as well

[errant cairn]

except i dont run on pain and suffering

[karmic drum]

And I wasn't looking at my health next to the Azurite 😂

[errant cairn]

that i randomly check just on occasion because of this mod oh and theres a list i do the same with

base power is not on that list 😭

[worldly valve]

Idk im usually careful. Somstimes i had it complete sometimes not

[karmic drum]

You either need to have it on a list. Or just have so much power that it doesn't need to be on a list

[errant cairn]

the latter's up next

[karmic drum]

Also the enzyme recipe isn't even that bad imo

[errant cairn]

early-mid game it is

like when you just start out with it?

[karmic drum]

You can stack 16 power banks to the multipurpose room

[karmic drum]

The only thing I ever found myself short on was poop and maybe salt

[errant cairn]

yeah i currently have:
2 Bioreactors
1 Solar Panel

[karmic drum]

But that's cause I wasn't bulk harvesting like I should of

[errant cairn]

yeah kinda same except sea crown which i had planted and hated waiting for

[karmic drum]

You can use at least 4 solars before going over the limit

Maybe more

[errant cairn]

what limit

[karmic drum]

Plant more than a signle grow bed xD

[karmic drum]

The current limit? Or whatever reika has to prevent normal subnautica power cheese

[errant cairn]

except i didnt use more than a single grow bed and im speaking on my last save this save i planted them before i had my ||bioprocessor||

[karmic drum]

Ah

[errant cairn]

is that a hard mode thing?

[barren oar]

somehow i never realised that was possible

also ye im fairly certain hardmode increases power consumption

was it 2.5x?

[errant cairn]

thx reika for the azurite seaglide

[karmic drum]

No, it's a normal mode thing. On my last save I tried to plant 5 thermals in the jelly fields, and then route them up to the grassy platues. But the distance was long that i couldn't get any power out of them at all

[worldly valve]

Thats so much crafting x.x

[barren oar]

yep power transmitters suck ass

half the time they dont connect

[errant cairn]

they dont in vanilla...do they in this mod???

[barren oar]

when they do connect, the geyser is already deloaded so the thermal does not generate power

awful

[worldly valve]

Oofty

(But really did bio reaxtors get hard nerfed)

[barren oar]

i never used transmitters in vanilla tbh

you didnt ever need to get more than a couple solars in vanilla

[worldly valve]

(I did most of my playthroughs on them on a bae of 1500ish powr)

[karmic drum]

Yea but it's also so much energy. Plus they give the room the "power handling" specialization. Which means even more bonuses the more you fill out that room

[worldly valve]

There is so much busy work between each process

My ocu bios usually are full enough again for about process by the time

Tho noteablr

My files have never had easycraft

God i wish i knee reiksa used it

(To me its more powerful than some of the banned mods)

[karmic drum]

Yea. I use ez craft

[worldly valve]

(I would jabe never guessed reika used it)

[errant cairn]

same

[karmic drum]

It's powerful. But it's not the wrong kind of powerful. It doesn't impede, or bypass progression, it just makes things less tedious and time consuming in spots where you really don't need to spend all your time any

[errant cairn]

for some reason the Resource Montior mod has integreation with C2C...and it applies to (spoilered for those who want to figure it out themselves) ||Storage Room||

[worldly valve]

Theres a fee mods types shes banned that i would argue just allow speed

[karmic drum]

I think she wrote that integration herself

[worldly valve]

Or the mega nerfs to the boat , mostly to forcea bigger main base

[errant cairn]

W then

[worldly valve]

Time os usually rhe main thing i measure. When i read through reikas site, i felt she was all about the grindy loops and collecting and doing

[errant cairn]

still mad about those

[worldly valve]

One of the nerfs was theoretically to prevent cheese

But i dont think that cheese was very feasible anyways

I watched law do it lol

Or rather die multiple times

[errant cairn]

||stat rifle time :D||

[errant cairn]

guys what should i do first with my new stat rifle?

what

my stasis rifle just ran out and this happened 😭

[willow fox]

Yo guys, can someone send me a debug mod?

[errant cairn]

wdym "debug mod?"

[flint aspen]

Ist the ||ACU status terminal|| supposed to go on the inside or outside of the tank? I cant find a placement where it doesnt clip outside or hovers in the tank...

[willow fox]

idk, I was told that there is a certain "Sea to sea debug mod" that can help me with my problem

[errant cairn]

there isnt

anymore

[willow fox]

outside

[errant cairn]

the thing that it did was fixed

[willow fox]

that not good

[flint aspen]

which problem exactly?

[willow fox]

still the same, my ||toungelilies don't produce anything|| even though all the ideal conditions are created, I was told that it could be because of hitboxes or something like that

[flint aspen]

oh good the dreaded ||tongue lily || strikes again... i also still dont know the proper way xD

[willow fox]

It already seems to me that the mechanics are not finished correctly

or I'm a dumbass and I do everything wrong

[flint aspen]

i also tried for several days and gave up

[errant cairn]

has anyone tested if install FCS midway through a save bricks it? I know autosort lockers (diff mod but kinda similar) does

[willow fox]

it might break because the mod includes new buildings on the map

just make a backup and check 🙂

[errant cairn]

is there something for backing up a save?

[willow fox]

just copy the save file somewhere on your desktop or smt

[errant cairn]

okay

[worldly valve]

Its not a sea2seadebug

Its the debug mod for legacy

[karmic drum]

Alright. Got a full and functional base up and running (minus a moon pool) now it's tome to go fragment hunting and working on getting a seamoth

[worldly valve]

I also noted that my information was incomplete and old

[karmic drum]

Man. I get that 1x1 items can totally fuck with progression and is on the blacklist for a reason. But I thinks like the propulsion and repulsion cannon didn't take up so much inventory space.

[errant cairn]

eh

stasis rifle is the same

[willow fox]

at least this sounds the most realistic

so let's be honest, who really knows the real way to extract tungsten through tounglilies

[karmic drum]

Yea. If you kept every tool you could possibly need on you. As well as food and water. You'd have no inventory space

[flint aspen]

Reika and maybe one or two other people i would say 🤣

[worldly valve]

The best information is about a month and a hakf ago to 2 months ago in cjat

Reika works with someone with the debug mod

Shows lots of the colliders and things

Debug mod sjould help if you can find it

I can get you it tonight but need patience for that

[flint aspen]

The circle of people that have finished the mod is small enough already so who knows how many of them have done the ||tongsten workaround ||.

[willow fox]

yeah i knew it wouldn't work

[worldly valve]

My completed run was pre tungest existing

[flint aspen]

I envy you xD

Many ||saltblocks|| gave their lifes to bring me my ||tungsten||...

[worldly valve]

When i did it

I had like 5 graisn fall into floor

[willow fox]

good thing i went through it a year ago before adding ts

[worldly valve]

10/10

I was sad when my scanner room showed me

[flint aspen]

r.i.p 😭

[willow fox]

here he is

[errant cairn]

@trail ether is there a configurable setting of when the mod reminds you to save? the default is 15 minutes and i want it lower

[karmic drum]

I got gassed while harvesting mushrooms

Fuck hardcore

I'll do hardmode

But fuck hardcore

[errant cairn]

ok

[karmic drum]

That gasopod didn't have to do shit. I was minding my own damn business

Next time I'm putting tigers eye in my gardens

[karmic drum]

Yes, it's in the regular config file

[errant cairn]

pog

so hardmode cant be enabled in the middle of a run correct?

[willow fox]

ok, i think i should have added a spoiler

it's right here, why doesn't it work?😭😭😭

[errant cairn]

cant believe you can get soft locked by a frozen reaper 😭

or...he can just...not spawn

that works too

[karmic drum]

Okay... apparently I can't plant tiger plants in exterior growbeds because they still retain all their behaviors unless planted in an acu...

[errant cairn]

[karmic drum]

Is there anything else I can do to protect my base from potentially unwanted visitors?

[karmic drum]

Oh I googled it

[errant cairn]

||creature pylon||

[karmic drum]

I wasn't taking that chance

[errant cairn]

[karmic drum]

Bruh. I can't deal with a fucking walrus farting on me until I get a bio processor

[errant cairn]

[trail ether]

you wasted the power and the enzymes but the ingredients are returned

[errant cairn]

pog

[trail ether]

or...does it return the enzymes too?

[karmic drum]

Matter of fact. Because I clicked hardcore again like a space cadet... I'm just gonna back my save up again this time. Incase something like that which isn't remotely close to my fault

[karmic drum]

It doesn't

Leanred that the hard way

[trail ether]

the recipes list the power cost in the blueprint menu

[errant cairn]

the ones not consumed before running out of stay

[errant cairn]

ye ik

[trail ether]

clearly I need to make the power requirement stricter

[errant cairn]

no you dont

i had to hunt something just to wait for power

cause bioreactors are fucking slow as fuck

i added a power bank just to get something done 😭

[willow fox]

that's it, I'm going to bed, I hope I'll dream of the solution to this impossible task (or just @trail ether a will reveal her secret voluntarily)

[trail ether]

I think so yes

90% sure

[errant cairn]

found it.

[trail ether]

it can

[errant cairn]

oh huge

[trail ether]

that said you might run into progression issues

[errant cairn]

define

[karmic drum]

So can, but shouldn't

[trail ether]

it changes how some things unlock/behave

[errant cairn]

ahhhhhh

[trail ether]

that seems like some very very unlucky placement

[karmic drum]

Things like the bioprocessor suddenly needing 2.5x as much juice to run

[trail ether]

that is not the way it is strict

[errant cairn]

oh i want a nuclear reactor but cant because the ghosties in the void can fucking bluetooth hit me

[trail ether]

no I mean things like now needing a prereq for something you have already been crafting

potentially including a dependency loop

[karmic drum]

Oh yea that too

[errant cairn]

to my other question do you know what happens when FCS is suddenly added in the middle of the playthrough?

[karmic drum]

Generally you shouldn't ever swap to a challenge mode mid playthrough

[karmic drum]

Why on earth would you run those om top of c2c? They seem like they'd fuck with the flavor of the existing mods

[errant cairn]

i love automating random shit

WHOOH

FINALLY

||STASIS RIFLED THE GHOSTIES AND GOT SMTH||

[karmic drum]

Ok... I mean cool... but fcs is like super extra. The only thing I would maybe say is the storage mod and I guess by extension the pda mod

[errant cairn]

HMMMMMMMMMMMM

you speak of tempting things

first lemme check this signal i got out

also not sure if i should inform reika of something

[karmic drum]

I personally wouldn't even install those. But I'm thinking about it as if I were you

[errant cairn]

protip for thinking like me: i only want to do things if they help more than they hurt

if they're not that good of a help but also dont hurt i wont go for it

like collecting random things on the sea floor

[karmic drum]

I will say though. I like the look of fcs. Like visually. Could be fun to pair with some grindy recipe cc mod on it's own

[errant cairn]

i like to mix fucking everything

[viral saffron]

||bioprocessor fragments do not exist||

[viral saffron]

._.

fucking finally

wait wtf does it do

I thought it would be an interface lke the fabricator

what

[trail ether]

I have explicit compat for FCS

[errant cairn]

huge

[viral saffron]

wait really?

why the hell have I not been using fcs

I love fcs

also adding fcs will honestly extend my playtime by another like 50 hours lmao

[errant cairn]

real

[trail ether]

FCS is changed substantially by C2C

[errant cairn]

oh nice

[errant cairn]

does it add or remove cool things?

idc if cool things are modified just does C2C add or remove cool things?

[trail ether]

a few things are removed

[errant cairn]

do they like break progression?

or decrease power constraints?

cause both are things that FCS could to

[viral saffron]

I'm assuming its stuff like the drill for infinite resources

also I'm pretty sure the mod is called "alterra hub solutions" and FCS are the people who make the mods lol

[worldly valve]

im gonna regret this decision

[viral saffron]

what

[worldly valve]

hardmode

if i cant get thigns running

c2c hacing issues

if contineus will puirgell c2c mods and reinstall

i say that but im reading through log to see why

[trail ether]

or intended gameplay

[trail ether]

no

but I do override its drop table

and make it so that it cannot be left in one place forever, aside from on top of the two AR nodes

[karmic drum]

Honest to god? The entire suite? I'm only 30 mins into this next run

And will happily throw it in the trash

I've never actually used fcs

But it's always looked really cool

[worldly valve]

welp

hard mode behinds, im now in your nightmare void

so tempting to play freedom mode tbh lol

[karmic drum]

I'm still doing my ridiculous hardmode challenge lol

But now I gotta install fcs. Cause I did not think that would have compat

[worldly valve]

you are still doing harcore?

[viral saffron]

how the fuck do you use the ||bioprocessor||

[worldly valve]

what do you know/understand about it?

[karmic drum]

Yup

[viral saffron]

its just an inventory

[karmic drum]

Learning as I go

[viral saffron]

do I just put items inside it and it makes stuff?

[karmic drum]

Failed run to failed run

[karmic drum]

Yes

[worldly valve]

well okay im not doing your nightmare

river will easily kill ya

[karmic drum]

Your pda will tell you the ratio's

[worldly valve]

lower will oliviate you

i need to get easycraft,..i couldnt find the one law mentioned

[karmic drum]

So far I've only died to being a dumb dumb about azurite. And... a gasopod that was really offended by my mushroom farming

[pine ginkgo]

I would totally attempt a deathrun + c2c but thered need to be a lot of tweaking and I wouldn’t trust plankton

[viral saffron]

https://www.nexusmods.com/subnautica/mods/24 (idk if I'm allowed to put links here but I can delete it after if not)

[pine ginkgo]

If you weren’t allowed you wouldnt be able to send it

[viral saffron]

true

[karmic drum]

No no. Not deathrun like the mod. It's base game hardcore, and c2c's hardmode toggle

[pine ginkgo]

Oh I know, Im just saying I would do it with deathrun

[viral saffron]

oh you ARE doing hard mode? damn

[pine ginkgo]

I have a lot of experience with it

Although I would want to port deathrun remade to legacy

Cause it has better config options

[karmic drum]

Yes

I'm doing insanity itself

[worldly valve]

hum well i may as well have lost a harccore there

the current in the coral killed me

[viral saffron]

wtf does this actually do, why is this useful

[worldly valve]

tsm

that there might be the MOST useful thing in the game

you just

need to get it

that's "all"

[viral saffron]

ooookay I guess

weirb

[worldly valve]

but uhh

[viral saffron]

wtf is nanocarbon

[worldly valve]

you ever see the falling stuff

or rather hear it

[viral saffron]

oh yea I've seen meteors

[worldly valve]

cool cool

good luck

[viral saffron]

what

[worldly valve]

hf

[karmic drum]

I literally have no clue

[worldly valve]

listen buy from the shop already we gotta get to lane

[viral saffron]

what are you saying

lmao

[worldly valve]

okay well i went into fll on league reference by the end but

ya know

metoers

gotta go fast

[karmic drum]

Fcs installed baby!!!

Gonna have so much fun doing base desgin now

[viral saffron]

also got fcs

I feel like I should restart

[karmic drum]

That's when one life runs are at their most rewarding. When you can just sit down.. and actually appreciate what you've accomplished

[karmic drum]

You should

[viral saffron]

welp, there goes 38 hours then

[karmic drum]

Since it's got specialized c2c compat. It'll offer so many more options for how you play

[karmic drum]

Hey, don't delete it

Keep it, and if you don't like fcs

Or the new save

[viral saffron]

oh no I do love fcs

[karmic drum]

You can go back to it

[viral saffron]

I've used it before

[pine ginkgo]

This is like the most useful thing

You know those things you see falling out of the sky?

[karmic drum]

Ah. I only got back into sn like a month ago

So it's my first time with the fcs mods

[pine ginkgo]

This shows you where theyll roughly land and when

[karmic drum]

Ducks got us

[pine ginkgo]

Ah

Mb

[viral saffron]

oh no you're fine

[karmic drum]

You good lol

[viral saffron]

also now that I know this mod a bit more I shouldn't take THAT long to get here this time

[worldly valve]

is easycraft not a qmod?

[viral saffron]

pretty sure its a standalone mod

[worldly valve]

so it doesnt go in qmod folder?

[viral saffron]

uuuuhhhh

idk

I just use vortex

[karmic drum]

It goes in qmod

[worldly valve]

hum

[viral saffron]

aaaand I already died to crashfish

I would not do well on hardcore

[karmic drum]

How in talos did you die to a crash fish?

[worldly valve]

missing mod json

could happen in

whatsb the cave

nanolathing cave

[viral saffron]

idk if this is from a mod but when I start the game and skip the fire this happens lol

[viral saffron]

yknow those BIG tube coral that are fucking full of them?

yeah

[worldly valve]

why am i missing the mod json?

[viral saffron]

idk

[worldly valve]

redownload i guess

[unreal flame]

you say this like there aren't caves with 30 of them inside

[worldly valve]

im

so confused

how fdo i get the mod json for easycraft?

[viral saffron]

do you want me to just give it to you

its in mine

[worldly valve]

tes oks

yes pls

[karmic drum]

Ok, so fun tip, if you just zig zag in the opposite direction of where they're going, a second or two after they launch, they can't follow you, and you'll avoid their blast

[viral saffron]

uh

did the

nope

hold on

I'll just give you the whole file

[worldly valve]

ty

[karmic drum]

Woooo

Only took me 15 minutes to get a high capacity o2 tank and my pod fixed

New record

[worldly valve]

you ar faster than me lolol

[errant cairn]

both??? bruh

[errant cairn]

real

[errant cairn]

possibly. i would have debated the same thing had i not already put another 24 hours into this save over 3 days

[errant cairn]

well im trying to add it in the middle of my playthrough guess we'll see what happens cause ill be streaming all the time

[pine ginkgo]

Mr. Law Abiding Coder did you start a new save?

Or have you been trying to patch your existing one

[errant cairn]

No

[errant cairn]

either

[errant cairn]

it is you have to find a legacy

[pine ginkgo]

Im so excited to get back home in a couple days and finish up my save

Id say im probably about 70% through

[errant cairn]

nice

[karmic drum]

Man... it would be amazing if we had the large room in legacy 😭

[errant cairn]

real

Reika should totally port it (dont metious might finally agree with lee to release it)

[pine ginkgo]

Its not even the large room for me theres just something about legacy that looks better

[errant cairn]

FCS?

[pine ginkgo]

Idk what that is tbh I havent dipped my toes into modding much beyond c2c and deathrun

[trail ether]

spacecraft hull
https://i.imgur.com/0djJ29U.png https://i.imgur.com/GHT4m58.jpeg

[trail ether]

yes

[trail ether]

have you ever played any logistics/automation game or even just Minecraft

[karmic drum]

@errant cairn got the multipurpose room and the scanner room without the seaglide and before the 2hr blast warning

[errant cairn]

good job

[karmic drum]

The bioreactor fragments are eluding me but that's ok

Cause I also got the piece of mangetite for my scanner room hud chip while I was down there

And someone left a ruby in a damn time capsule

So I can put a resource monitor in my base ez too

[unreal flame]

day 700 of wishing this game had better hull variety

[trail ether]

yes

and that the geckos were not such a bitch to take the hull off

[unreal flame]

fore and rear hulls, yeah

the javelins were also a bit annoying once they got to the "full rings" point

[trail ether]

agreed

doubly so when they pack a fuel tank in it next to the cut points

[worldly valve]

holyshit i played this without easycraft

[karmic drum]

He sees the light

Now get resource monitor

And it all comes full circle

[barren oar]

why would you make your life easier if you're already playing c2c

[pine ginkgo]

lol yea I should download some QoL mods

Im 70% of the way through my run but theres still plenty of times theyd help

[viral saffron]

get white lights

and running with tools

and blueprint tracker

[karmic drum]

Those last two are essential

Also, never use filmic film grading. It makes it impossible to see in the dark 😭

[silk pond]

bro i have actually no idea where this last databank entry is in the ||lost river laboratory cache||

someone told me that it was not in an obvious location and well that is certainly true

[willow fox]

wdym by unlucky placement? wrong biome or should the beds be moved a couple of meters

[viral saffron]

...what? the fuck? is that?

[silk pond]

something u need

[viral saffron]

do I need to fucking knife the

oh my god its the fucking geyser filter isn't it

god damnit

I saw that

[silk pond]

nuh uh

[viral saffron]

yuh huh

I just noticed your profile picture is a subnautica save

what

[silk pond]

i know ur not where i am yet but i actally need help

[viral saffron]

I can

give ideas

maybe

[silk pond]

ik its not tough

u know the log that has the lifepod pdas and other things like that in it

[viral saffron]

yheah

[silk pond]

actally this might be spoilers nvm

[viral saffron]

I wish I could grow table coral samples

[silk pond]

real

[viral saffron]

or, maybe you can in ACUs

idk

[silk pond]

i justn have my base in the shallows

[silk pond]

cant

in acu

how long is ur save so far?

[viral saffron]

I restarted after I added FCS but it was 38 hours

rn its like, 3 hours

[silk pond]

ok

[viral saffron]

and like 4x the progress I had when I was 10 hours in last time cus I actually know what I'm doing

[silk pond]

im about 28 hrs in but i have beat the mod twice before (before the new update) so i guess that make sme a bit experience

[viral saffron]

holy fuck you need so much copper for the mobile vehicle bay

28 I think

[silk pond]

ikr

it aint that bad compared to some later things

like i have my lockers full of resources but after one big crafting session i am almost out

[viral saffron]

I just get what I need as I need it

any excess sits there for 10 years till I use it in some random crafting

[trail ether]

#1147624004648186009 message

[viral saffron]

lmao

[silk pond]

yeah but its always feels horrible when ur 1 ruby short or smth like that

[viral saffron]

I do a bunch of things at the same time, just, resources are not one of them, even though, I probably should.... and will now

[silk pond]

then need to go 5 minutes to the corner of the map

and dont get me started on ||platnum||

[silk pond]

im guilty of that

especially on my first playthrough

[viral saffron]

THAT I loaded up half my invetory with last save

just annoying taking multiple trips to drop it off in my seamoth storage

[silk pond]

true

but its the only way to avoid the stalkers

thats why i always get a bunch of it at a time'

[viral saffron]

anyways I am tired as fuck, I will continue the suffering game tomorrow

[silk pond]

i find the mod and game in general quite relaxing

gn

[viral saffron]

(again, not really, I fucking love sea to sea. just... UNNERF SEA VOYAGER AND MAKE IT LATE GAME REIKA)

[barren oar]

sea voyager is surface only dawg its useless even unnerfed

[silk pond]

im never going to find this last scan

i dont know if i should give up or what

[karmic drum]

Me when I loose an hour and a half of progress because I accidentally turned off my pc and didn't save

[viral saffron]

early game cyclops

(also I mostly say that for @errant cairn lol)

[silk pond]

yeah i have no idea what it could be

[barren oar]

cyclops is useless too

except i think you use it for like half an hour in c2c

[willow fox]

By the way, regarding sea voyager, judging by the mod files, its texture should be changed, but for some reason it doesn't work

[warm remnant]

Did you tried to scan the things near the big fish skeleton?

[tight creek]

I'm not sure, but he and I both scanned the things near the big fish skeleton. Even the Alien Sensor

Repeat my saying: I have just one step to the ending!

Same.

[warm remnant]

I opened my game and this unknown object is ||rib cage||.

[tight creek]

Hmm. Okay. I'll find it

[willow fox]

perhaps these are ||tentacles with lanterns near a large skeleton?||

[tight creek]

Aminos. The rib cage is in the Disease Research Facility.

Found it. I just forgot scanning it!

[warm remnant]

So, does anybody figured out how to obtain tungsten grains using ||tonguelily||? Im thinking about starting second playthrough on hardmode but dont want to ||play salt roulette|| again. I dont need explanation just confirmation that someone got it to work.

[flint aspen]

Since Eyeyes spawn in many bioms is there a specific one to boost productivity in the ACU or does it not matter?

[warm remnant]

I think you need to find fish and plants that share only one biome with eyeye to make an acu biome.

For example In my acu eyeye was living with crabsnakes so my acu biome was jellyshroom caves.

[flint aspen]

I also thought of jellyshroom caves. Did it increase the fertility in the ACU terminal?

[warm remnant]

I dont remember, but I think so.

[flint aspen]

"Get out of my house" 🤣

[karmic drum]

"I want waffle fries"

And oooh... that's where we get the eggs

[willow fox]

In fact, I was able to do it as intended by the developers, but for some reason it still doesn't work

[tight creek]

I tried planting the Tongue Lilies in every biome. But there's nothing.

[flint aspen]

I legitimately think ||Tungsten|| is supposed to be a lesson for the player to accept the futility of some things and learn to take the hard way...

And another reason to build a big salt farm/base

[willow fox]

you need ||dunes or sea treaders path|| to work most effectively, but ||grassy plateaus and mushroom forests also work||

[willow fox]

so why then add an alternative method and vehemently claim that it works?

[flint aspen]

maybe to simply bait the player? I would not put it past Reika to do something like that 😅

[willow fox]

that would be truly villainous!

I checked the ||tongueliles|| code and chat gpt says it contains an error sooo

[worldly valve]

Easyceaft would have saved me i swear 20+hours of my life already lolol

Probably more

[errant cairn]

Did you try turning it off and on again?

[barren oar]

lol maybe that would have made it a little less shit

[barren oar]

dont trust any ai for code my guy

[barren oar]

damn that much gg

that was like a third or fourth of my total playtime albeit i did not finish the mod

[willow fox]

I think you've encountered the lily problem yourself, were you able to make it work?

[barren oar]

i did not try the intended method by the time i'd switched back to 2.0

[flint aspen]

I knew it there is literally nobody that really made it work... At this point i only believe its possible if i get video proof 😂

[errant cairn]

Seriously though, the un-nerfed Sea Voyager is just an Early Game Cyclops thats better than the Cyclops

[barren oar]

better than shit does not at all guarantee its useful

since its unable to descend under normal circumstances (and then unable to re-ascend) it is virtually useless for any type of extra storage

which is all the cyclops would have been good for anyway

not in a mod like c2c, is what im trying to say though

its not a vehicle designed around c2c and so doesnt really work in this context

cant say im a big fan of vehicle mods either way, personally

i think adding depth to existing vehicles the same way c2c does with its modules & gameplay is much better

[tight creek]

Okay, I scanned all things PDA requested. And the exploration findings is all. But what the hell I can't launch rocket?

[barren oar]

do you have everything else ticked off too

fairly certain there's 2 or even 3 pda pages with checklists you need to burn through

[tight creek]

There's one need to be ticked but there's nothing to tick.

Still, can't launch rocket.

[trail ether]

not being able to read any of your text rather impedes being able to identify what you might be missing

[tight creek]

Hmm.

I'll try to read every text tomorrow.

I just know the log mentioned that I need to get to know the development of vaccine and quarantine.

[willow fox]

soo, I'm waiting for an answer @trail ether

[round vessel]

squid game!

[tight creek]

Is it a meme?

[trail ether]

it looks like it is perfectly positioned between the beds

[barren oar]

what was the problem with finding the closest growbed & positioning so it touches the plant when a plankton tries spawning on a given hatch again

performance? it would already do spherecasts of the same radius every frame for each plankton anyway so it detects collisions, thrice in fact

[willow fox]

I placed them every couple of centimeters and still 0

[barren oar]

we love collision detection mechanics

[willow fox]

bruh just increase the damn collection radius

[pine ginkgo]

I haven't gotten them yet but I was thinking it could also be ||in the lost river brine, have you tried that?||

[flint aspen]

I want to make a kelp forest themed ACU. I have 3 creepvines and a brain coral but according to the terminal plant variety is still insufficient. Ive already searched for other plants that grow there but couldnt find any except for drooping stingers which cant be planted :/ Does somebody know any other kelp forest plants?

[barren oar]

why do you have a brain coral

also seeded and seedless creepvines are different plants, unsure if that matters or not but i just had a 2/2 split and it did the trick

[willow fox]

the creator of the mod wrote that I do everything correctly except for the hitboxes

[barren oar]

ecosystems are in general kind of a pain to troubleshoot, i find

[willow fox]

perhaps two-story aquariums are needed for kelp to grow to full capacity?

[barren oar]

@trail ether do you think it'd fit if you could select the biome you want and the ACU viewer buildable would tell you what isn't part of the given biome

for instance ^ and bladderfish surprisingly are not part of the kelp though you could very easily see them wandering around in there simply because kelp is surrounded by shallows

well in general its pretty easy to accidentally grab something not from the biome and have to trial-and-error until it detects the biome as you want it

[karmic drum]

when it doesn't matter cuase the time capsule rng got my back

swim charge fins op

[trail ether]

no it does not do that

plankton uses onTriggerEnter/Exit

[barren oar]

whether unity does it and calls the events or you do it it really has no difference i think

[trail ether]

I am pretty sure unity has a way to not need to d othat

[barren oar]

point being there already are 3 colliders that are checked for collision so whats one call when it spawns

[trail ether]

and a spherecast and iteration is crazy slow

[barren oar]

could always just async it

[trail ether]

it is already far larger than their size

[trail ether]

where would you be selecting this?

there is no UI to an ACU

[barren oar]

...on the buildable?

have a button that opens the PDA page, and a button that lets you select the biome from a list with < > arrow keys

it'd only be relevant if the ACU viewer buildable was placed, after all

[trail ether]

you underestimate how fiddly and unstable building custom UIs is

the emergency warp button took hours of debugging

a single button to an existing UI

[barren oar]

the difference being this is an in-world ui which you already have a good reference for, the vehicle console

or the several interactable uis in the cyclops

perhaps the latter is more relevant, since it features buttons more-so than the console does

it really does just boil down to 3 buttons each with their own callback, either way

[willow fox]

and it still doesn't work

[karmic drum]

You're doing it wrong then

[worldly valve]

did you get lillies to work void?

[karmic drum]

I know there have been people who have

I didn't discover what they did on my last save. But had I known I'm confident I could've gotten them to work

[worldly valve]

where have you seens people saying they got it to work?

[karmic drum]

Give me about 6hrs

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-myself-iwilldoitmyself-gif-5018673

[worldly valve]

luls

good luck

im hoping for your success

[willow fox]

we need a base plankton, not a natural one, which is in the void

[willow fox]

keep our fingers crossed

[worldly valve]

Werent you using base plankton?

[willow fox]

here is a list of suitable biomes

||PlanktonCloud.forSpawnData(s => addSpawnData(s.biome, s.spawnSuccessRate0.05F));
addSpawnData(VanillaBiomes.DUNES, planktonAreas[VanillaBiomes.CRAG].spawnRate1.5F);
addSpawnData(VanillaBiomes.TREADER, planktonAreas[VanillaBiomes.CRAG].spawnRate1.5F);
addSpawnData(VanillaBiomes.REDGRASS, planktonAreas[VanillaBiomes.SPARSE].spawnRate0.5F);
addSpawnData(VanillaBiomes.MUSHROOM, planktonAreas[VanillaBiomes.SPARSE].spawnRate*0.5F);||

[barren oar]

the message wasnt about void (the biome) but void (the discord user) lol

presumably it'd work anywhere plankton spawns

[willow fox]

oh my bad yesterday i tried to get plankton in the dead zone

[barren oar]

lol

afaik that is the best way to spawn them

unless plans changed from... a year ago? i think?

cant say ive had to spawn them on-demand though, myself, i'd just grab it whenever i saw some on the way

[willow fox]

yeah i know, i was just trying to figure out all the ways to make these damn lilies work yesterday

[barren oar]

the problem is that it relies a lot on luck with how it works

at least, from what ive seen in the channel

i havent tested it post-fix, myself

[trail ether]

that is not that at all

you should avoid digging into code and making proclamations about it if you cannot understand it

and no ChatGPT does not count

in fact it probably counts less than usual given the number of people confidently spouting nonsense about C2C or its code

[willow fox]

I wouldn't be digging around in the code if everything worked as it should

[karmic drum]

https://tenor.com/view/im-chill-im-as-chill-as-a-cucumber-relaxed-its-fine-calm-gif-17059198

[errant cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-pepe-think-pepe-the-frog-wojak-gif-13571840648507225174

[errant cairn]

agreed

[errant cairn]

real

[worldly valve]

2 hours remain till the dawn of day 4

[viral saffron]

COULD YOU NOT

[karmic drum]

The day got rather busy but I will present proof when I have some

[viral saffron]

how do I get this idiot out of here

[karmic drum]

I've had to move a couple of them with an Azurite repulsion cannon

[worldly valve]

Im just refefencing MM anyeays lol its no rush dude, i geuinely wish you luck

[worldly valve]

Just swim far away

[viral saffron]

CATopod

[karmic drum]

I'm conflicted. Cause on one hand. Gasopods are on my hit list for how they ended one of my runs while I was gardening.... but on the other... they're technically a renewable source of torpedoes since infinite titanium is easy to get

Do scanner rooms work above water?

[viral saffron]

YOU

[karmic drum]

@errant cairn actually got it this time

almost died on several occasions

but I got it

[errant cairn]

nice

[errant cairn]

[errant cairn]

got wat

[karmic drum]

The battery. My first hardcore run saw me dying trying to harvest azurite

[errant cairn]

o

[karmic drum]

On run three we're back to and past my greatest defeat

[errant cairn]

im playing with un-nerfed sea voyager so....

and fcs

[karmic drum]

Oh azurite seaglide. How I've missed you

[errant cairn]

no c2c

[errant cairn]

do super seaglide with it

[karmic drum]

I have fcs as well. But I haven't gone to the facility yet

[karmic drum]

Nice. It's good to take a break

[errant cairn]

get the rebreather before going there. source: trust me bro

[karmic drum]

I have the rebreather, two ultra tanks, my boosted seaglide, and a seamoth

[errant cairn]

perfect activate super seaglide go there now

[karmic drum]

I'm not 100% sure on the map. But it looks like it might be in the crash zone. So I'm gonna do one or two extra things to prep first

[errant cairn]

its not

ill tell you that

you dont have to deal with Sammy the Saftey Reaper or her buddies in the crash zone

[karmic drum]

I'm there. And to call this wreckage a maze... would be doing it a kindness

[errant cairn]

you'll love it

oh im going to warn you now you need 5 power cells

cause some ARSEHOLE didnt warn me

[karmic drum]

Thanks. That... actually explains a lot

[errant cairn]

yw

[karmic drum]

Time to make 1.5km swim back to my base. And decimate the local mushroom population

[errant cairn]

[karmic drum]

Might also need to do a copper/titanium run

Would've brought my seamoth to the site. But gas torpedos are not as good as I thought they would be

And the bonesharks nearly ate the thing

[karmic drum]

I have codes that all end in zero. and no zero on the keypads....

https://tenor.com/view/confused-no-nope-gif-5413974953753901704

[errant cairn]

there are codes that dont end in 0

those are the ones

[karmic drum]

I found the second set of codes lol

[errant cairn]

good

[karmic drum]

Gonna get some air then test those

[errant cairn]

k

[karmic drum]

Those were not the codes I thought they were. I only have one code for the fabricator rooms that doesn't end in 0. And that just opened the area. So they must be somewhere other than the administrative pc's... 🤔

[errant cairn]

they arent

[karmic drum]

These are all the codes I could get out of administration (the first image is fabrication)

[errant cairn]

the one on the right is the one you want

[viral saffron]

crafting a mobile vehicle bay has gotta be the most tedious thing in this mod I swear

[errant cairn]

real

[viral saffron]

even compared to scanning the ten million fragments for other stuff

[karmic drum]

I used both the codes on the bottom already. Couldn't open the second door in fabrication. Which means I can't repair the two broken points in there. Which are likely essential to opening the rest of the facility. But I'll give it another shot

[errant cairn]

oh this is the same code as the first door

for whatever reason

[karmic drum]

Huh... I'll give that a go

[viral saffron]

idk how its so difficult, the keypads dont have zeros, so it has to be the ONLY ones without zeros

[karmic drum]

Tsu. I've seen you get bent about worse this week. Lay off

[errant cairn]

its usually a diff code for every door but idk why its the same for both door

[karmic drum]

I don't find it to be that bad tbh. Especially since ideally you only need one for the entire run

[viral saffron]

oh the recipes really are changed. I mean, thats not THAT bad

[errant cairn]

[viral saffron]

only thing is the luminol which idfk how to get, assuming its got something to do with the ||plants in the dunes||

[trail ether]

this is not an FCS channel

[errant cairn]

i am aware

[karmic drum]

Apologise

[errant cairn]

but some of us literally can't speak in the FCS server cause dicord

[trail ether]

the recipe changes are not the primary effect of C2C on FCS

[karmic drum]

I'l move elsewhere

[trail ether]

that means nothing to me

[errant cairn]

ill still move

[viral saffron]

oh yea, I'm assuming stuff like the deep drill are nerfed/more expensive, just, was interesting seeing the updated recipe since I'm pretty used to the normal one

@errant cairn vc

question mark

I am bored

[abstract knoll]

so uh

anyone else when they tried to get the mk1 seamoth depth upgrade have it explode?

[worldly valve]

Ha

Ya

[viral saffron]

nothing is free in this mod

you will learn that soon

[abstract knoll]

how am i supposed to unlock it then?

[viral saffron]

you dont

:)

just kidding you do

[karmic drum]

You will also learn that this mod is gonna ask you to read and look for stuff

All the time

This journey is not for the faint of mind or heart

[abstract knoll]

D :

i did

i

me no find

any hints?

[tight creek]

Oh no, one of those codes makes me feel uncomfortable

[viral saffron]

use scanner rooms

its in one of the starter biomes

[abstract knoll]

thanks

[worldly valve]

The real trick os to not worry about it

Keep doing wife

Eventually you can go down

Nulti air tanks op

[abstract knoll]

man

i am surviving on ultrahigh capactiy airtanks

[worldly valve]

2 is good

Got rebreather yet?

[abstract knoll]

yes

to access the prawn bay im going to need the reinforced suit correct?

to search for it what catagory would i use?

also love that ive unlocked the mk2 depth upgrade

before the mk1

[karmic drum]

Yea. But trust me. It's gonna be at least a good.... 30hrs minimum. Before you start worrying about going back to the aurora

[abstract knoll]

oh man

i mean

i have 1 fragment

of da prawn suit

[karmic drum]

This is a long which will test your ingenuity, creativity, critical thinking skills and occasionally drive you insane

[abstract knoll]

yea

i figured

[karmic drum]

My advice? Start by getting a scanner base setup in literally every biome you can

[abstract knoll]

so question

has magnetite just been noped out of the jellyshroom caves?

[karmic drum]

No. It's very much still there

[abstract knoll]

grand

[karmic drum]

But some things won't appear on a scanner until you've scanned it yourself

And you'll want a truck load of magnetite for those recon bases

[abstract knoll]

at least i dont have to worry about batterries

i wonder if Alterra Hub would help

FCStudios

[karmic drum]

I'm running that. It has specialized compat. And has had some tweaks done to make it work with c2c

[abstract knoll]

Yippee

[karmic drum]

And really... it's probably just gonna make the run even longer

[abstract knoll]

does thi compat

make everything

even more expensive?

[karmic drum]

I don't know lol

[abstract knoll]

do the drills cost alot to build?

[viral saffron]

I was 36 hours in and nowhere close

[worldly valve]

I advise biome corners foe less buildinh

[abstract knoll]

might install a map mod just so i can figure out where i am

or something of the like

[abstract knoll]

where might one find that compat?

[viral saffron]

its built in, if you have all the sea to sea mods, and install all the FCS mods it'll be compatable

[abstract knoll]

Ah

thank you

[willow fox]

wait, isn't it in ||Aurora||? Or was it removed from there in future updates?

[barren oar]

you dont get a free sample

not in c2c

[willow fox]

@karmic drum How does the search for a working method go?

[woven helm]

hey how is it going with the 2.0 ver? my brain: (just wait to hear it's 0% done)

[pine ginkgo]

0%

Actually less than that cause a % would assume its started probably

Theres no estimate because a lot of it is relying on factors outside of Reika’s control

[woven helm]

ugh fine i will wait for it

[pine ginkgo]

Theres also totally the chance it never comes cause 2.0 doesn’t really add much for Reika other than the fact that people want it

So it also just depends on her motivation

[pine ginkgo]

In just curious, whats holding you back from playing legacy?

If its mod compatibility, Id highly recommend playing C2C without major content mods anyways

[viral saffron]

only mod I would play c2c with is FCS mods

since the recipes and other stuff in FCS is specifcally balanced by c2c when you have both installed

[karmic drum]

I been alseep lol

[viral saffron]

I love completely rebuilding my base cus I built it sideways and now my moonpool is the wrong way and for some reason you cant fucking rotate them

hell yeah

[karmic drum]

https://tenor.com/view/idfk-gif-3761179052566277881

[viral saffron]

I like how this isn't even a sea to sea thing anymore its just base subnautica fucking with me

@errant cairn you left before I could tell you but I will stream it

[errant cairn]

ah okay

[errant cairn]

you realize there are other channels to ping me in right?

[karmic drum]

I'm starting to think the bioreactor not adding power wasn't a bug

I think I just have too many solar panels on my base

[viral saffron]

this is now general chat for me

(not really I'll ping you there next time lol)

[worldly valve]

first piece o nanocarbon get on hard mode woo

[karmic drum]

||do you have to catch falling debris along the waterline to get that?||

Actually

Don't tell me

I should figure it out myself

Though honestly I'm not even sure if i'll make it past the beginnings of liquid breathing this save

Gonna have to get real crafty to survive

[worldly valve]

hows lillies

[karmic drum]

I'm taking my time on this save, gathering resources, blueprints, trying to get some key progression items down. I know I was cocky yesterday. But I don't wanna loose a hardcore save cause I was dancing with toxic phytoplankton

[silk pond]

||is the grinder the only way of getting tungsten cause its really inefficient?||

[karmic drum]

There's another method. But it's hard to figure out. And most people are having a hard time figuring out how to make said method actually produce results

[silk pond]

ok

[silk pond]

||just finished void spikes and it will always be super scary down there||

[errant cairn]

Dude I just barely went there and was so scared I abandoned ship and haven't been back there since

[silk pond]

it was so scary in my first playthrough and i lost a seamoth

but now i know how to do it safely

[karmic drum]

I'm doing a hardcore run and I'm so scared to down there without extensive strategy

[pine ginkgo]

Its actually like harmless if you get there the intended way

[silk pond]

yeah but still scary

its the nothingness of the void

[karmic drum]

||I must've missed something then. Cause I used the autistic module and still got jumped 😭 ||

[pine ginkgo]

Well im not sure how much the autistic module would help 🤔

[trail ether]

from what I have seen you saying you have been completely incorrect about the intended solution

[karmic drum]

Oh I assumed as much

I wasn't trying to imply you were wrong

Though...

I see where I worded things wrong

[flint aspen]

Is there a way to farm gaspods in the ACU?

[karmic drum]

No

Those are meant to be manually

[errant cairn]

Have you forgotten about Super ||Azurite|| Seaglide? Its how I got ||lifepod 15. Although, I did have stat rifle and azurite repair tool||

[karmic drum]

that... doesn't prove anything aginat her point xD

also man... maybe it's a qol mod I have installed. bit I didn't realize that the scanner room doesn't ping data boxes you've already found. or fragments for tech you've already unlocked. that's actually so nice

[barren oar]

thats either standard c2c or vanilla

its very convenient yep

i know i had it when i had barely any qol (building tweaks to have the ability to remove ACUs, subnautica map, power order, and probably something else im forgetting)

[karmic drum]

Only things I've seen "phantom ping" after you find them are PDA. And I only saw that once so I could've been mistaken it

[barren oar]

pda wouldn't do that for me either

just be sure to restart the scan after picking up one

[errant cairn]

It wasnt to prove or disprove anything it was a genuine question

[karmic drum]

It's not vanilla lol. I'd been searching for fragments and databoxes manually cause I know how bad it is in vanilla

[karmic drum]

Ah

[barren oar]

oh

[karmic drum]

Ok. I thought it was something like that

[karmic drum]

Yea. On my last sucessful run. I found everything I had by persistence and dumb luck

I would scan for wrecks. But that was about it 😂

Getting off for the night. But tomorrow I'm gonna do sunbeam and try to get the recirc mask

I also want the thermoblade. But god I don't wanna go down to that POI 😭

It's always so laggy

[barren oar]

thermo with de extinction actually OP

you cut the axetail and you get two cooked axetails, each like +20 food and water

though thats the only real benefit deex has in c2c

otherwise you just have more things you need to scan & the annoying ass gulper in perhaps the most frequented area of c2c

[karmic drum]

I think I'm good 😅

Thermo letting me cook food on the go and basically never have to back to my base while exploring is already op

Booosted seaglide + swim charge fins go brrrrrt

Not exactly hyped about building bases in place like the dunes or the crag field. But as long as I don't bring my both then I think the boneis and the reapera ought to leave my recon outposts be

Oh actually... I wanna be in the grand reef first. After I get the mask. Mountain, then cragfields, then grand reef

[barren oar]

as always remember to build a moonpool in every outpost

besides the charging, vehicles are also invulnerable & invisible inside of them

also the dunes are genuienly more safe than crags if you know what you're doing

because there's only one threat there as opposed to like 6

[silk pond]

if you get the perimeter defense upgrade that barnsharks are more dangerous than reapers

[barren oar]

perimeter is only slightly useful for bonesharks

you have a way to chase away reapers without it

[silk pond]

oh how?

i never new that

it doesn’t matter as i have the upgrade but that’s cool

[barren oar]

its a c2c (more specifically, one of its addons) addition, and you can do it the moment you get a seamoth

I'd recommend experimenting when you're caught because thats how i discovered it too

[silk pond]

ok

[barren oar]

you could save a slot for storage

[silk pond]

i have 1 already

[barren oar]

or plankton storage (which is just storage but better as you get 1 additional row)

[silk pond]

death defense storage and speed

[barren oar]

yeah but you could get more storage

[silk pond]

true

[barren oar]

more storage never hurts

[silk pond]

unrelated i just got subnautica on my phone

[karmic drum]

I hardly bring my seamoth anywhere honestly

Unless I know I need the portable 02

I just azurite seaglide most places

[silk pond]

i like the seamoth

so i bring it almost everywhere

i could care less about speed

and the speed upgrade makes it quite fast

[barren oar]

personally i value storage a lot

you're basically doubling your available space with a seamoth and two storage upgrades

a bit more since about 1.5 is player free space after required items like the seaglide, tools, extra batteries and food+water

[silk pond]

yeah

[trail ether]

Exscansion

[barren oar]

right

[woven helm]

not to be mean but i don't see that it's fair

like i just love 2.0

and i refuse to play it 2.0

and i do not want to add pression but i just see that unfair

[barren oar]

cry about it

mods are a lot of work

it may not look like it, but there's been a big time commitment on sea to sea alone

533 updates over the span of 3 years

that is, just in c2c, a lot of code that needs to be adapted to living large standards (basegame assets, which the mod uses all the time, now have to be loaded completely differently)

[woven helm]

hey that's not nice!!!

[barren oar]

neither is you asking about 2.0 for, the third time now? and getting the exact same response because why would it have changed

[woven helm]

well i was meaning not to be rude

[woven helm]

2 times was about the progress

[barren oar]

yeah i admit i've gone a bit too heated there, i do apologise

but i do not see how it is hard to just... wait

let the modder do their thing, and update it whenever they feel ready

so many cases, not only in modding communities, where patience just does not exist

[woven helm]

no because Randall said it might come out made me a bit sad and to refuse to make it not come out

[barren oar]

i do imagine you can realise just how annoying it can end up being

[barren oar]

of course its not 100% guaranteed that it'll come out

nothing is

plans can very easily be destroyed by factors outside of your control

or it could be something as simple as losing interest

[woven helm]

then why Egek said that Reika said that she is going to update it to 2.0

[barren oar]

its only a plan

nothing solid

even if it was solid, it could still be cancelled for one reason or another

ultimately, just wait it out

it might come, or it might not

[woven helm]

either way someone other gonna make a mod that ports it to 2.0

[woven helm]

i am just worried for the 2.0 ver

[barren oar]

except that is not legal, for reika's mods are licensed under All Rights Reserved

[woven helm]

it's just that i love 2.0

[barren oar]

or in other words, due to there being a lack of a license, you are not allowed to make any modifications to it

[willow fox]

You do understand how much work this is? You'll have to redo everything literally from scratch

[woven helm]

and i do not like to play legacy

[woven helm]

did i say i was going to do it?

[willow fox]

worse, you want someone to do it for you

[barren oar]

no, but anyone wanting to do it themselves, besides putting themselves in a risky situation legally (even more-so than just making a mod, because this is still a pretty gray area) still has to do all that work

i think the issue you're facing is that you are severely underestimating just how much work it would be

[woven helm]

can you or me see Reika and all the devs making biomes and creature? well simple the answer is no

[woven helm]

techincally someone could make a mod that just adds the creatures and another one that adds the biomes/biome like they did with socknautica

[barren oar]

this conversation may be going in circles

[woven helm]

i didn't say ''hey 9th core can you do a 2.0 ver for me?'' i just said a random person that i cannot know can do that without my request

[barren oar]

"it would be a lot of work" -> "could just split it" -|
^__________________________________|

[woven helm]

don't really understand that also i am not a modder or a coder expert so that's why i cannot understand

[trail ether]

every 2-3 days no less

as if a 2.0 update is some trivial task that might go from not started to done between Wednesday and Saturday

[trail ether]

"just set 2.0 to true in the code, ez!"

[barren oar]

lol

[trail ether]

you also sound like you are 12

[barren oar]

yeah i cant believe you didnt use the Convenient Living Large Mod Updater™ graciously created and offered by UWE

[trail ether]

not even that, I have had people genuinely believe that the reason a mod is not updated is because some single line somewhere needs to be changed to say "2.0"

sometimes they have a vague sense of what code looks like so they will instead say things like "make isUpdated() return true!"

and honestly this does not just apply to updates

I have had people genuinely try to help me fix issues in various mods and expect it to be that simple

[barren oar]

haha

at least they have good intentions...?

[woven helm]

@trail ether sorry if i was pushy it's just that i love 2.0 so much that i am just like not paying any interest in legacy

[trail ether]

which are worthless without knowledge to act on them

[barren oar]

that is true

[trail ether]

like remember this image https://64.media.tumblr.com/c366985a8cbb2773d05bd67547f1cb34/tumblr_poquwhemxW1xp1nxxo1_500.jpg

i have had people unironically make code suggestions that looked like that

numerous times

and even when not making literal code suggestions I have just as many - really, probably 10x more - saying things like "I think you can fix it by not calling the function that crashes", or "couldn't you solve the problem by making the mod know whether the user wants to do that"

[willow fox]

I understand that this is completely off topic, but no one has solved the problem with the damn ||tonguelilies||.

[barren oar]

yep

last i heard of it it was just bad luck

[trail ether]

and on that latter example there actually was a guy back in 2014 or so who made some mistake, stuff exploded, and then raged at me saying the mod should "figure out what the player wanted to do and do that instead"

i cannot find it now - i tried - but i remember it well

actually it might have been deleted, as I remember the post ended in the one-word sentence "Asshole!", whicih MCF does not tolerate

surprised I never saved it into my archive of assholes though

[barren oar]

you've got an archive of the stuff?

[trail ether]

yes

https://i.imgur.com/fg8bXlk.png

the vast majority is from 2013-2015

unsurprisingly as that is when my mods were in the big FTB packs and so I had both the largest overall playerbase and the greatest number of morons interacting with me and my content

also

[trail ether]

I found another example of me talking about this

https://i.imgur.com/yCxEHJ9.png

and just a bit later

the referenced conversation happened in this channel

or perhaps in #🎮┃mod-discussion if it predated this thread being created

[trail ether]

https://i.imgur.com/tEKSKFH.png

[karmic drum]

https://tenor.com/view/what-happened-chaos-gif-14104955

Ooooh. It's that guy again. Knew I had him blocked for a reason

[karmic drum]

Awesome

That might actually be the most on topic thing here rn

[karmic drum]

This is... possibly the greatest thing I've seen all week

A certified documentation of pure idiocracy

[worldly valve]

ive unlocked a lot so far in hard mode

but also still no laser cutter lololol

so many more scans needed for things

[karmic drum]

I got my cutter

Is nice

[bitter kraken]

Oh my god i immediately have so many questions to this guy that i understood the frustration instantly

[pine ginkgo]

ok well the ||plankton feeder|| definitely doesnt help with the ||tonguelillies||

[pine ginkgo]

so many reginalds though

[willow fox]

Welcome to the club

[karmic drum]

I mean if you consider code over in-game function. It would make sense that they wouldn't

[past geyser]

also ... missing images for items is this something known

reinforced pillers

and another one

[trail ether]

that item is unfinished

[past geyser]

XD alright thanks

just making sure

[pine ginkgo]

damn engine efficiency has no effect on the brine