SeaToSea

[worldly valve]

Oh no, as far as im aware its just a hazard

[barren oar]

bc if you could break & harvest them, you can also indirectly remove any hazard the biome has

[worldly valve]

Not tjat you ever want to g9 to tje flpating islands ever anyways

That biome os awful

[willow fox]

And what about ||nanocarbon||? In the latest version it seems to just not appear ||after the meteorite falls||

[worldly valve]

(Outside to grab techs)

It is there

Its hard to see

[barren oar]

it disappears after a bit

[worldly valve]

The best way imo is this

[barren oar]

like 1.5min

and its also tiny

[worldly valve]

Have your line, and be a little down and loooking a little up

Snd most of all

Do not lose the line

Never lose the line

[barren oar]

also save scum lol

[worldly valve]

(Also if there was a time to save scum this is it)

[barren oar]

but its really hard to "keep the line", too

because it both constantly moves through the sky and falls at an angle

[willow fox]

will he be at the bottom or what?

[worldly valve]

(Actually explroing the river also encourages save scumming to save resource usage)

[worldly valve]

I only line once its about to hit the water

[barren oar]

and also its so far to where being a degree off means you'll be tens of meters off (and not have a chance to find it)

[worldly valve]

It hits the water so fast i rarely have time to watch it fall

Even if you are les then 100m down it will almost have hit the water once you surface

[barren oar]

ive never found it possible to reach it once it hits the water

[worldly valve]

But yeah, get the line, move a bit down but look up at an angle, do not lose the line, do not look with your glide in angles, look with your eyes in angles

[barren oar]

unless you're right next to it

[worldly valve]

Its super hard

[barren oar]

right under the surface

[worldly valve]

With my 200+ hours i now have a bit of an instinct to get it

I got 3 sith no scan room

(Recent run,l

[willow fox]

200+ in game or mod?

[worldly valve]

But nano carbon is the other mechanic i think its just

Thenmod😂😂😂😂

Ive played 2 half play throughs, 1 playthrough

And fucked around

[pine ginkgo]

My time in C2C has now passed my time in deathrun

I did 3 playthroughs with deathrun

[worldly valve]

I struggle to understand nanocarbon with reikas usual stuff

Reiak usually wants you to just passively find the things by looking around

[pine ginkgo]

The last one i had everything cranked up to the max + every recipe way more grindy

[worldly valve]

But passively findin nanocarbon is...

I mean its basically 100% rng

[barren oar]

you wont find even a quarter of c2c's content "passively" what

[worldly valve]

The only way to guarentee it

Is to do a grinding method

[barren oar]

you need to deliberately go out of your way and explore every nook and cranny

[worldly valve]

Normallt reika says if you are doing a grinding method you are doing it wrong

[barren oar]

even if its relatively close to a vanilla poi

[worldly valve]

Passive exploration

She never expects you t9 go grind titanium for 30 mins for example ia what i meab

Meanso she expecrs you to be able to just respond reactively to the nanocarbon

[barren oar]

whats passive about going around and exploring looking for the last thing you need in order to tick off the shopping list (exploration findings)

[worldly valve]

But the only real way is to sit on surfave of water

And wait

[barren oar]

you are supposed to set up several outposts unless you know what you're doing though

[worldly valve]

Passive might be a poor word choice

But i dont know a closer one

[barren oar]

to the point where multirooms are made cheaper

[worldly valve]

Its more like

If you just explore and wander

[barren oar]

but again you need so many that it adds up (so you spend half an hour with speed 4 at thr aurora to fund all that titanium)

[worldly valve]

You will find most things in this mod by mistake and

Naturally

Maybe naturally is a better word, tho i think its not quite what i want to say

[worldly valve]

But theoretically you are never meant to do that all at once

Except probanly the rocket shio

Most things can be achieved while doing other things

But one is either farming nano carbon or not doing anything at all

[karmic drum]

I never found nanocarbon on my last save

Or the prints for electrolytes

Which meant no cyclops, and no nuclear reactors

[barren oar]

yeah because you're meant to make the 15min round trip (travel time only) every time you run out of titanium (every 10min) instead? lol

travel time is obviously the only relevant metric here since you're still going to take the same amount of time to actually collect the titanium, whether it be now or later

lmao????

[karmic drum]

Did my message just...

Did I delete it?

[barren oar]

my gut just got Denied

the bot did

[karmic drum]

Ah

Oki

[barren oar]

watch your language lol

[karmic drum]

I don't believe I cursed in that one

I been trying to curse less

Wair

Hold on

[barren oar]

probably a misspelling that ended up being a blacklisted word?

since this server is pretty lax about swearing

[karmic drum]

I think I used the wrong social synonym for dumb

Anyways

[barren oar]

Oh

yeah that'd do it

[karmic drum]

Laser cutter upgrade makes titanium a triviality

[barren oar]

yep

except its slow as hell

[karmic drum]

Get your seamoth sorted for storage, keep your inventory low, and you can farm a few hundred in an hour

[barren oar]

and set up a fabricator base nearby too

to compact them on-site

[karmic drum]

The time I fine relative to how often you're actually gonna need to refill

[barren oar]

and with a few planters to keep yourself fed

[worldly valve]

If you do it while traveling you cut down on time

I acrually didnt need to go farming till i hit the river in my last save

Becsuse i just grabbed a few rocks every time i went around

Not useing the seamoth made it easier too, since no hopping in and out

[barren oar]

except if you're not nearby the location when you come back

so you'd have to deviate

[worldly valve]

You will eventuslly return to baze no matter what you do

[barren oar]

do you build your base in that biome for the titanium collection location to be nearby

[worldly valve]

This mod is set up ti where you can avoid most grinding if you just passivley grab things

[karmic drum]

Yea. That's why there's entire systems and incentives added by the mod to make base building more rewarding

[barren oar]

that is absolutely not my experience lol

[worldly valve]

Im also not claiming i never grinded* just rhat my last playthrough i didnt till river because i was more passive with my collecting

[barren oar]

crafting costs are pretty high compared to vanilla

[worldly valve]

For some things

[barren oar]

and even in vanilla you had to grind most of the time

[worldly valve]

Like the motu and nanolathing

[barren oar]

ye i got that

just that most of my playtime was just grinding at the end of the day

[worldly valve]

I mean go up and read some of reikas older posts, i do know that she intends a lot of the "grinding" to be able to be done passivly while just exploring for stuff

[barren oar]

which for the record im not complaining about, im a hypixel skyblock player

[worldly valve]

Like say when you need to get the coral geyers

You will probably very naturally collect a ton of mercury

[barren oar]

i actually was very poor on mercury until the reinforced dive suit, myself

[worldly valve]

And if you did it well enough, you never will need to go grind mercury , as you just go enough for the whole playthrough aleady

[barren oar]

actively kept from making anything with them unless i absolutely needed it

[karmic drum]

There's loads of it without needing to explore that cave

[barren oar]

after the dive suit though one run through the cave and you have enough for the rest of the run

[worldly valve]

Im just saying there was an opportunity where if you jsut picked stuff up xasually while in the cave

You might not ever need to go back

[barren oar]

i genuinely did not find all that much even with a scanner set up

barely enough to scrape by until the reinf

[worldly valve]

Sometimes it falls in the floor

Which does suck

But thats a nilla problem

Fun fact

I disocvered my rungest grinding shoulda been done much faster

I lost like 7 pieces to the floor

😂😂😂😂

[barren oar]

ive never seen a resource fall through the floor tho

since they arent affected by gravity until collected

and are generally immovable until collected, even

[worldly valve]

Things still do

Ill see it sometimed with the scan room

I think its a collision thing but am unsure

And once its in the floor

It tends to get pulled in

[trail ether]

yes but I do not have an asset

[worldly valve]

I dont know what causes that

[trail ether]

that is already what happens

no you did not XD

[barren oar]

huhh

[pine ginkgo]

Well enough for what I need for a bit

[worldly valve]

Stuff in the floor

[pine ginkgo]

I find that funny though

[worldly valve]

That is what killed my first playrhrough tbh lololol

I got to the void spikes and felt a feeling 9f

"Oh this is it. Why was this even advertised"

[trail ether]

which is funny because I do not like outer wilds

[worldly valve]

But i came back for the river

[trail ether]

though not because of its gameplay

except for a certain repeating event

[barren oar]

tangentially i really like how you aren't allowed to save while in the void spikes

[pine ginkgo]

Maybe theres some other resource there Ill need later but as far as I can tell its just ||abyssoclase||

[worldly valve]

Why dont you like outer wilds?

[barren oar]

really turns up that fear factor

[worldly valve]

|| the repeating event is my fav part since its one of the only ganes where long term timing matters in ouzzles||

[barren oar]

because your only real life support in these kinds of areas is saving, and you suddenly have it removed from under you

[trail ether]

so you navigate visually as opposed to following a UI

[pine ginkgo]

I never make the compass

[barren oar]

why dont you make the beacons move around too if you dont want the ui to be trustworthy

[trail ether]

the frequently and magnitude of distortion is heavily influenced by biome, with that one far exceeding all others

[barren oar]

also make the depth meter oscillate frequently too

[karmic drum]

I sorta got that impression lol

I didn't mean to sound insulting

[barren oar]

while we're at it change up the oxygen, water, food and health meters too

well im being pedantic but this would actually go kinda hard

[karmic drum]

9th...

[barren oar]

as a creature effect or so

[karmic drum]

😭

[barren oar]

similar to the mesmer

[trail ether]

the term I usually use is "incidental finding"

[pine ginkgo]

No oxygen meter but subtle indications would be interesting

[trail ether]

ie you are out trying to find/do X and in doing so find other things that may or may not be useful to you at this time, which may or may not be something you can readily identify as such

be that information, resources, etc

[barren oar]

i did initially start off that chain of thought as a joke but its actually pretty interesting the more i continued

[karmic drum]

Honestly I already navigate visually

Compass is actually sort of detriment with how I handle sensory information

[barren oar]

though it would only really work if there was an indicator if you're running out...

really close to, i mean

hrmmm

[trail ether]

for those who have played ChromatiCraft you might recall how I always say it is designed to not be actively focused on

[karmic drum]

So me asking wasn't "I want this thing to work" (though I admit I typed it like that) and more of a "I'm curious to the thought process here"

[pine ginkgo]

Idk the map has plenty of recognizable things to triangulate yourself

Especially like the aurora and islands

[trail ether]

that many of its progression gates are explicitly designed to be things you should not try to work towards but let happen naturally as you do things

[barren oar]

im horrible at triang im so glad beacons arent fucked by the system

[trail ether]

and that same general process found its way into C2C

[barren oar]

genuienly i dont think i could have navigated the map otherwise

[trail ether]

less explicit progress flags and more resources and/or information

[barren oar]

also reika you should add compat with the pda map mod

[unreal flame]

unfortunately, half the time it's the only mod worth focusing on

[barren oar]

to make the player rotate around like the compas does

since if u have a compass the player points in the direction of it (but does not take into account c2c rotation changes)

[trail ether]

coughhttps://i.imgur.com/Vk0wsFU.png https://i.imgur.com/UXjg0hA.png

[barren oar]

yeah no shit

[trail ether]

exactly likethis yes

[barren oar]

5 times i tried talking in the official sn server, 5 times i got muted

and i got kicked once too for too many infractions

cant even say shit

[trail ether]

and indeed I often explicitly complain that too many people play with a kind of tunnel vision where they might notice other resources/findings/etc but also actively choose to ignore them because they are not relevant to their single current objective

and then they need them an hour later and either bitch about the time cost of that or just try to make do without and bitch about that

[karmic drum]

That's a thing that happens

I'm guilty of tunnel vision. But know better than to complain about it

[trail ether]

hard to say without spoiling it but the primary three reasons:

1. time pressure, which often came with the most INCONVENIENT FUCKING TIMING
2. jump scares abound, some definitely intentional (fuck lakebed cave and whoever designed it), but even unintentional ones are not acceptable, and I am not even talking about the DLC
3. frequent requirement of some amount of "gamer skill", even for intended puzzle solutions

[trail ether]

congratulations you have tempted me

less move around and more...flicker glitchily

so they are still useful as a general approximation

but not precise waypoint

[errant cairn]

cool idea. maybe for like a horror mod or something...

[barren oar]

ooh

[karmic drum]

I mean at that point I was just won't use navigation aids at all

[barren oar]

c2c becomes unnavigable 🎉

[karmic drum]

If it isn't practical I won't mess with it

[barren oar]

lowk cave diving tool might become the new meta

[errant cairn]

bruh

reika

why

[trail ether]

#🎮┃mod-discussion message

[errant cairn]

is there so much fucking phytoplankton in my save

specifically around my base

[trail ether]

even on a far smaller scale

[errant cairn]

s

[barren oar]

oh yeah i remember playing around with that

[errant cairn]

bases

[barren oar]

nice effect

[trail ether]

"oh this is that cave entrance" "here is that plant coming out of the weird rock" "there is the triangle of four quartz"

[barren oar]

me trying to remember how to reach the very specific combination of 3 rocks and half a can of soda that is on the other side of the fucking map

[karmic drum]

Oh. Here's a fun idea. Scanner room no longer picks anything up without finding it on a camera first

[trail ether]

i actually made many many kinds of things not show up until scanned by hand

most resources are on that list

[barren oar]

instantly invalidates the unidentified object system lol

[trail ether]

leviathans are on that list

[barren oar]

well, """system"""

[trail ether]

in universe you could explain it as learning to recognize the specific object's "signature"

[worldly valve]

Thanks for the reply. I never considered a lot of the quantum stuff to be very jumpscary hut i do get why it would be

[trail ether]

you say that but this is exactly what I do

and not just in SN

and not just in games

this is how I navigate while driving

[karmic drum]

I mean it doesn't really make sense that your radar just knows where bunch of precursor tech is

[trail ether]

I do not even know the names of most of the roads I use

[barren oar]

it

[trail ether]

but I know what every intersection looks like, as well as many "confirmation" visuals along the way

[barren oar]

it scans

[trail ether]

let me show you an actual example

[barren oar]

that the entry appears instantly in game is just gameplay convenience

but lore wise it scans the nearby area and picks up anything that is not terrain

[trail ether]

this intersection https://i.imgur.com/H08ToGr.jpeg

it is one of about 15 turns (not counting those near home) on the way to wasaga beach

[barren oar]

how that manages to penetrate terrain too is beyond me, bullshit scifi stuff

[trail ether]

I know I need to turn left there

[karmic drum]

Huh... I'll have to mess around with that once I build a base that isn't in stalker territory

[trail ether]

the two primary features I recognize are the large hill leading up to it and that stand of bare-trunk trees

[barren oar]

lol that's fair they're the most random bullshit ever usually

[karmic drum]

God only knows what my scanners could've been picking up in my last save

[barren oar]

were you not scanning everything you could anyway

since it's pretty explicitly filling out a list that's pretty clearly important to be filled

[trail ether]

here is one on the way to grand bend https://i.imgur.com/gWQT993.jpeg

the wind farm and that warehouse

[pine ginkgo]

I mean Im the same way

[trail ether]

another one on that same drive, about 20 min later https://i.imgur.com/OnzC7QV.jpeg

[barren oar]

oh the wind farm is far didnt notice until zoomed in

[trail ether]

that line of trees along the right

[pine ginkgo]

I just remember pattern and routes not names

[barren oar]

yeah thats pretty normal as far as im aware

[trail ether]

now this HAS thrown me a few times

not so much out in the middle of farm country but closer to the GTA where everything is being redeveloped

take that and have me go maybe 5-8 years between trips and things can occasionally change to the point of unrecognizability

[barren oar]

its just that you spend comparatively a lot more time irl than playing a game, and playing subnautica, and especially playing c2c specifically

so you pick up on patterns much easier in the former than in the latter

[karmic drum]

No

[trail ether]

I do not spend a lot of time driving actually

[karmic drum]

It's just a learned sense of spatial awareness and sense of direction

[trail ether]

I have more hours in C2C than driving to grand bend and wasaga beach combined

and each of those is a 2.5h drive one way

[barren oar]

oh

[trail ether]

and I have been going every year since 2015, compared to only even trying SN in 2022

[karmic drum]

Believe it or not. But the less you use a tool that makes something easier. That you can already do yourself. The better you get at doing that thing

[barren oar]

oh you mean reliance on beacons instead of remembering every single grouping of rocks found in fuck-all biome and knowing that somehow correlates to 139.2m west and 51.9m south of your lifepod

that makes sense

[karmic drum]

🤷

I'm just explaining how practical skills are learned

[barren oar]

ye

[unreal flame]

you're thinking of the Elite dangerous search ping aren't you

[pine ginkgo]

How many people have confirmed completed C2C

Im sure theres plenty of people who dont speak in this disc but how many have openly stated that they have beat it?

[viral saffron]

I might actually just quit

[errant cairn]

[viral saffron]

I got the one at the island

at least, I'm pretty sure...

yeah I did

I do not understand

why the fuck

I am always 1 off

[pine ginkgo]

Oooh if its the same one that I was missing then good luck

Its not actually that rough

I just was tunnel visioning

[unreal flame]

i have, and a few people not here have as well (one of the lifepod VAs, for instance)

[pine ginkgo]

Interesting

Yea Im pretty upset I only thought about recording around 20 hours into my playthrough

[viral saffron]

I would love to beat it but I fucking CANT

[pine ginkgo]

😭

You’re very little in right now anyways

[viral saffron]

BECAUSE I AM MISSING ONE FRAGMENT ON BOTH THE TABLET AND GEYSER CORAL NOW

and my azurite battery just died

I

[pine ginkgo]

I actually didn’t get the geyser coral until I needed what it unlocks

Which isnt really until ||you need plasteel for honeycomb for liquid breathing||

[viral saffron]

I swear to god

I

missclicked

the pyropod

[pine ginkgo]

What happened

[viral saffron]

and ate it

[pine ginkgo]

Oh I did that as well

Save and reload itll clear the damaging

[viral saffron]

and I didn't save for quite a while

[pine ginkgo]

Or you will slowly die

Base plankton has made me a professional saver

I dont enter or exit anything without saving

At least it was a pyropod and not a deep shroom

Deepshrooms kill you so fast

[viral saffron]

I went back to only having 8 tablet fragments

[silk pond]

i have but before the update

[viral saffron]

I found it

the last one

okay

now time to find all the other ones again

the one here, on that little patch of sand

fucking EVIL

[unreal flame]

||it's funny; reika didn't even really place those fragments||

||it's all the spots where full tablets are in the basegame||

[trail ether]

no actually I was mostly thinking of stuff in some other games

[trail ether]

I have not been keeping track

[viral saffron]

||theres THAT many tablets in the base game? damn||

[unreal flame]

iirc, there are enough to open all but two purple key doors

[errant cairn]

LOOK AT HOW MUCH ||PHYTOPLANKTON|| IS AT MY BASE

[karmic drum]

I wonder if putting 2 scoops in a seamoth would double the collection rate 🤔

[errant cairn]

not trying it

[viral saffron]

RAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[errant cairn]

WWWWWWWWWWW

[karmic drum]

Congratulations. You just expanded your tech tree in several areas that I'm not going to directly reveal

[viral saffron]

I already know one

||the southern grassy plateaus||

[silk pond]

spoiler that

the locatiom

[karmic drum]

Loose lips sink ships

Keep yours sealed

[viral saffron]

I love losing all my range upgrades in my scanner room for the 5th fucking time

...||what the fuck, is a luminous chemical sample?||

[errant cairn]

||has anyone told you that you need to pretty much collect one of everything except eggs?||

[karmic drum]

Pro tip for c2c. If you don't scan literally everything. Or take a sample of every plant

You're doing it wrong

[viral saffron]

oh my god there was no animation for the hatch on my base and I just went absolutely FLYING into it

[viral saffron]

oh wait no I have that

nevermind I'm good

I wish there was recipe pinning so bad

[errant cairn]

theres a mod for that

blueprint tracker or something like that

was i supposed to get into ||lifepod 10||???

cause i just did

with super ||azurite|| seaglide™

[viral saffron]

wtf causes there to be no hatch animation

[karmic drum]

No

That is not the intended progression path

I did it too

But it isn't the intended path

[errant cairn]

well i just found it trying to find ||bioprocessor in crash zone messas||

this reaper is really persistant

[silk pond]

i still am missing one last scan at the ||lost river laboratory cache||

[errant cairn]

XD

[karmic drum]

it's got modified ai

[errant cairn]

i can tell

[karmic drum]

like I said. it isn't intended that we just get in and get out

I think she plans to tweak it further

[errant cairn]

im rushing something i shouldnt have by now but i have been grinding so much that i can get it

i dont think i should have ||stasis rifle|| in like my first 24 hours into my playthrough

[karmic drum]

I like to just take a step back. and stop, ask myself what I can do, with what I've found. Before moving onto anything new

[errant cairn]

welp

not doing that

[viral saffron]

I just do a bunch of random shit at all times

[karmic drum]

cuase tunnel vision is the worst

[viral saffron]

I am trying to get the plants for the tablet at the same time as lead for more foundations

[karmic drum]

and forcing yourself to stop. is the only way to avoid it

[viral saffron]

I dont like the fact that my base is this close to the dunes

[karmic drum]

the reaper isn't a threat

[errant cairn]

how? two shot and is persistent

[karmic drum]

I meant the ones in the dunes

the normal ones

[errant cairn]

oh true

[karmic drum]

doesn't matter how close your base is to it

plus there are tools for that

[viral saffron]

my game stutters so much in the mushroom forests

[karmic drum]

my game literally doesn't stutter at all

that said. my computer is beefy

[viral saffron]

I wish there was an option to turn off the falling shit in the mushroom forests

it does literally nothing other than lag my game

[silk pond]

i think im just going to give up on whatever that databank entry is

[viral saffron]

tada (idk if I should spoiler this or not lmao)

probably not but eh

wait how the fuck do I make bleach

chlorine???

[karmic drum]

Did you put indoor grow beds outside?

[pine ginkgo]

this happens sometimes to me on the first entrance of loading a save

honestly sometimes I wish it would always happen

im sure theres some QoL mods to skip some animations

[pine ginkgo]

its a diff recipe for vanilla, the resources are very easy to get

meaning you probably havent picked up the one thats required for the altered recipe

the hint ill give you is that its accessible within the first minute of a new save

[karmic drum]

Ok. Only took me like 10hrs to get a seamoth, moonpool, and modification station

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-when-fun-begins-smile-happy-gif-15656461

Not a crazy huge fan of the crab squid that tried to end the run though

[pine ginkgo]

dude some sort of electrical thing from crabsquids would be dope

[karmic drum]

Oh wait

[pine ginkgo]

imagine hitting certain items with the emp blast could change them into something else

[karmic drum]

Snake

Not squid

I was exploring the jellyshroom degasi habitat

And a crab snake actually grabbed me

Never had that happen in all my time playing this game

[silk pond]

i guess that one scan in the ||lost river cache ||will forever be elusive to me

[pine ginkgo]

thats something else that could be cool

I feel like creature related drops/mechanics other than like poop could be pretty cool

would give mor euse to ACU, maybe with reduced droprates in ACU/certain mechanics not working in ACU

I feel like playing into the mechanics of creatures could be a cool direction for the mod

I suppose theres not too many creatures that having mechanics outside of just swimming and attacking though

[karmic drum]

I actually asked about this with gas pods. And she wants most of the creature drops to remain manually collected

[pine ginkgo]

using the gas from gas pods or the emp blast from crabsquids to do something could be cool though

I guess warpers, but Im not sure what you could do with the warping

plus it actually harms you so idk

lol make rockgrubs do something

[viral saffron]

what? no? lol

they ARE outdoor growbeds, dont worry

just far away so they look tiny

[karmic drum]

Oh. It looked like you did for some reason

God. Having a seamoth and my ultra capacity swim gear back. Feels like being able to breathe for the first time

[viral saffron]

why is my outdoor light connected to a "rotate docking bay" button way out at 0,0? lmfao

[pine ginkgo]

why did you restart your save?

[karmic drum]

I'm doing hardcore-hard mode. I didn't like how jumpy I was last time

[pine ginkgo]

oh nice

[karmic drum]

And wanted to make my way through more slowly and methodically

[viral saffron]

ez

annoying to get though

[pine ginkgo]

its not that bad

plus it makes 3 per

[viral saffron]

and I died trying to get more

amazing

[pine ginkgo]

so it 3 bleach and thus 9 disinfected water for one batch

but you do need a lot of salt

[karmic drum]

It gets even easier later

[pine ginkgo]

just pro tip for the future start collecting boatloads of salt

[karmic drum]

I'm a lazy bumb who uses bladderfish for actual drinking water

[pine ginkgo]

I mean same

but you need a lot of disinfected water later

and then the same recipe that uses that also uses salt

so you just need lots of salt

actually not same on the bladderfish kinda

[karmic drum]

Yea. I'm saying I save it all for that

[pine ginkgo]

since I figured the playthrough was gonna be long I took the time to make a stillsuit

idk why I dont just make a filtration machine

the stillsuit is nice though

but its not a 1:1 on water lost so I occasionally have to grab a bladderfish or two

[karmic drum]

alright. Time to visit the aurora and handle this radiation

As soon as the sun comes back up....

Don't like that I can't see the outline of ole reapy

[pine ginkgo]

I forgot how unaggressive reapers were in vanilla after playing deathrun with aggressiveness at the max

it was actually insane, if you could hear them then you were within its targting range

[karmic drum]

That's actually a feature I don't like about deathrun

Creatures aren't supposed to be out to kill you

[pine ginkgo]

you could not get inside the aurora without having to dodge the one outside

[pine ginkgo]

its not that bad in regular deathrun

but if ur using remade and crank up the settings its so bad

going through the kelp forest you cannot stop moving or else you have a pack of stalkers on you

and theres constantly sandsharks cashing you down everywhere

its more of an annoyance there but its genuinely scary with reapers

especially since if they move they tend to stay where they are

[karmic drum]

Huh... found a capsule and now I have two cuddle fish to look after

[pine ginkgo]

I had one follow me from behind the aurora into the safe shallows so I just ended up killing it

[karmic drum]

I generally don't like killing things in this game if I don't have to

[pine ginkgo]

same

[karmic drum]

Knowing that the creatures aren't intentionally malicious. I'd prefer to just outsmart them

Plus somethings just don't come back. Like the juvenile ghost leviathans in the LR

[pine ginkgo]

I actually thought about killing some reapers in c2c but that didnt feel right and honestly its really easy to avoid them and easy to counter them with a stasis rifle for the ones you need to confront

Ive never really had a problem with ghosties

even though they aggro way more

[viral saffron]

I live in grassy plateaus, so salt is fucking everywhere

[pine ginkgo]

yea so do I

but you will need more

some recipe can easily cost 32+ salt

ok thats an exagerration

but still it will become the foundation of all future recipes

[viral saffron]

also is 3 bioreactors enough for ||the bioprocessor?||

[pine ginkgo]

no

well it depends on what ur making

wait bioreactors go to 1500

you might be ok but id shoot for 2000

[viral saffron]

alright, I'll do a buncha solar too I guess

[pine ginkgo]

yea I have a mix of solar bio and thermal

[viral saffron]

or, I might add fcs...

oh yeah thermal

lemme grab like 20 power transmitters

[pine ginkgo]

im in the southern grassy plateau close to where one of the geysers is in the safe shallows

[karmic drum]

I don't recommend adding any external mods intended to disrupt game progression

I don't remember where it is

But there's a buildable that lets you store more power without needing to build more power generators

[viral saffron]

oh yeahhh, I got that

I need more generation though, bioreactors are slowwww

[karmic drum]

It's on github I think. But there's a mod you can get called better bioreactors. Which is safe to use with this pack

And makes them use all their fuel items at once instead of one at a time

Resulting in significantly more power

[viral saffron]

but a lot more fuel usage I assume

[pine ginkgo]

probably same consumtion rate its just consuming more than one item at a time

so faster power output

[karmic drum]

Same rate

[viral saffron]

oh, its only 2.0

wait no thats

the one on nexus

[karmic drum]

Like I said. Github

[viral saffron]

found the one on github

[karmic drum]

Got in and out without taking damage from a single bleeder or crab

That feels like an achievement honestly

[viral saffron]

from where

[karmic drum]

The aurora

[viral saffron]

oh, god damn

[worldly valve]

Scanning room with help qith 1 of these

[worldly valve]

Dis you get the onw on the floating rock yet?

[viral saffron]

yes, but I already got the tablet lmao

well, blueprint, still making it

[karmic drum]

Oh. I also got a stillsuit from that time capsule

https://tenor.com/view/money-breaking-bad-sleep-on-money-lay-on-money-money-pile-gif-5382667

[viral saffron]

niceee

free stillsuit in this mod especially is insane

[karmic drum]

It really is

Stillsuit, rebreather, three ultra capacity tanks? I'm exploring good

Now I'm gonna start prepping for the laser cutter

[worldly valve]

There is one that can only really be seen going the other way on the tunnel from front to bacj of mountain

[pine ginkgo]

Ive actually purposefully avoided opening time capsules

[karmic drum]

It almost feels like cheating. Knowing everything special that I need for the laser cutter and where to get it

[karmic drum]

They've been heavily filtered in c2c.

So the only real "good thing" you can get out of them is the stillsuit

And maybe an excessive amount of cuddlefish

[worldly valve]

Wait you can collect rhe baee plankt0n now?????

Thats a big difference

[viral saffron]

I've gotten 2 aurora minifigures from one

so I can have a total of 3

best time capsule ever

[karmic drum]

I got all three of the collectibles you can find on there from one

[viral saffron]

I hate crabsnakes

[pine ginkgo]

Yea plankton is free if you just go in and out of your moonpool

[karmic drum]

Oh. Btw does anyone know if you can distract warpers?

[viral saffron]

knife them till they teleport away

lol

or drop an infected fish in front of them? maybe?

idk

[karmic drum]

Ooooh boy. Going after that item might just make or break my save then. Last time they did not want me near that particular wreckage

[worldly valve]

Its used to not be collectable at base

You had fo go out before

[karmic drum]

And the databox takes ages to repair

[karmic drum]

How old is your save?

[viral saffron]

the ||mountains|| wreck? theres like 20 biters in the area too, sooooo, good luck lol

[karmic drum]

||yea. For the.. actually wait? Have you gotten the loot from that one?||

[viral saffron]

yes

lol

[karmic drum]

Ah

Wait

[worldly valve]

Many patches

[viral saffron]

I forget what was in that data box but I got it

[worldly valve]

Mu save us pre tungsten fix

[karmic drum]

I need to at least get all the purple fragments before I can craft the item in it

[worldly valve]

Reija at one point said base plankton wasnt meant to stop tge collection loop

[karmic drum]

||the recirculation mask||

[worldly valve]

I think killing reapers multiplies them

Or something

Its meant tp punish based on things reika said

[karmic drum]

Well not anymore ig. Cause apparently she has some way that you're supposed to be able to clean it out when it gets to be too much

And they form clusters around moonpools and hatches

[viral saffron]

oh yeah... no idea how I get most of the resources for that still

[karmic drum]

Ah. Well it'll be amazing once you can craft it

[worldly valve]

I lije to ask "how csn i maximise the use of any piecd of equipment" but that leads into anti reika things lololol

[viral saffron]

||is it really just a better rebreather?||

[karmic drum]

||it's that. But it's also so much more and is critical to exploring in the mid and late game||

Actually... I'll probably hold off on exploring that wreck

And focus on the stasis rigle instead

[viral saffron]

||oh yeah I also have the breathing fluid recipe, and a bit of the recharger too||

[karmic drum]

Actually getting the stasis rifle this run will be huge for me

[worldly valve]

Marblemelons babyyyy

[karmic drum]

Dawg. I been trying to grow them. But for some reason I full growbed of them remains eternal seedlings

[worldly valve]

Powerbanks are good

Eapecialyl if you powercell farmes

1500is enough power imo mostly for bioprocessing

But i never try to do too mich at once

[karmic drum]

You can fit I think 16 powerbanks in a single multipurpose room

[worldly valve]

Especially if all the bios are oculus bios

[worldly valve]

You cant get anything too good. Tho you can ger an advanced qiring kit if you sacrifice your first born child

[viral saffron]

there was a glitch or something and an advanced wiring kit spawed on the ground in the kelp forest for me

[karmic drum]

I'm still so glad I got that stillsuit

[viral saffron]

when I was like 20 minutes into my save

[worldly valve]

|| sounds like scoop. Tho there was aparenly a way to deal with if pre fix too. Probably lilies||

[worldly valve]

Yeah that is in every save

Its like in a circle in a circular hole right?

[viral saffron]

oh, really?

yeah

[worldly valve]

Yeah i know the one

Good find

[worldly valve]

Oh. Maybe they also got nerfed with the kantern fruit?

I thought maybe was safe since aparently most people find marblemelons too manual

So reika was less likely to nerfbat

[karmic drum]

Probably. I don't think she wants players to have passive food and water that takes literally zero effort to setup

[viral saffron]

dont tell reika but you can just plant 16 lantern fruit trees

lmao

[karmic drum]

It's the lesser evil principle. If the preferred option doesn't work. Then the next one down suddenly starts looking a lot more appealing

[worldly valve]

...but thats all the water and food systems in this game😂😂😂

[karmic drum]

What I mean

Is that it at least takes a bit

To get ACU'S setup

Especially if you aren't familiar with the mod

And don't know where any acu prints are

[worldly valve]

Tbh the food snd water is the worst snd leats thought out mechanic of subnatuica

Id turn it off if it didnt make survival games feel empty without

Mayne ill acrually update my save lolol

Lesse how it looks when i noot

[karmic drum]

I hope it's save safe

[worldly valve]

oh right

i rememebr this

im 2 mins out from losing effciency in the river lol

tho base it stabebd so super seaglide is achievable

[viral saffron]

uhhh, hi?

[worldly valve]

lol

[karmic drum]

Uuuuh...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1208412247345332314/1263579380945256478/attachment.gif

[viral saffron]

why are there so many fish in my base

[karmic drum]

Collison problems. Most common in the legacy version of the game

It's cool when actual fish swim through. Cause you can catch them without leaving your base

Predators on the hand... not so much

[viral saffron]

so how many thermal plants can I have before its too many

I was gonna do 3

[karmic drum]

I think it's more distance and less number

[viral saffron]

h

oh

makes sense

[karmic drum]

If you want to make use of thermal. It needs to be close to your base

Power transmitters won't do jack

[viral saffron]

is.... 350 meters close enough?

[karmic drum]

Likely too far

[viral saffron]

and I have to go back around to go through the jellyshroom caves entrance...

[karmic drum]

Yea

Nope

No thermal for you

[viral saffron]

and idk what the fuck sealed fabric is so the ampeel antenna is not an option

[worldly valve]

Bioreactors are pretty cheap

[viral saffron]

solar it is

[worldly valve]

Thos the way peoppe are talking

Did they get super nerfrd or something?

[viral saffron]

no, just, take a lot of space

[worldly valve]

They sre so cheap and easy to use i use them for everything

I mean you do want to have a dedicated power room

[viral saffron]

I dont wanna place 20 multipurpose rooms just for bio

[worldly valve]

I dont even know what the benefits are

What?

I dont understand

What is your base O.o

[viral saffron]

its 1 bioreactor per multipurpose room

a mess

[worldly valve]

Why wouod you neef more than 2 or 3

[viral saffron]

I really want sealed fabric for the ampeel antenna

[karmic drum]

The bioprocessor doesn't have a constant power drain

It just uses a lot to craft

Also if you can't make the special ingredient in all the chemistry recipes

Then it isn't worth worrying about the bioprocessor

[viral saffron]

is this enough gas pods for now

lmao

[viral saffron]

the ||lysing enzyme?||

I can

[willow fox]

ok guys, i figured out this whole system with ||tungsten and tonguelillies||. But now i have another problem, my ||tonguelillies write Accumulating Minerals and the progress is frozen at 0%. Should i sacrifice minerals to them or what?||

[karmic drum]

Ok. Then you should be fully capable of using it. There may be a bit of wait time between crafts. But your current power system will do fine

[viral saffron]

only problem is actually getting the thing

I need one more fragment

finally

finally making some real progress

[karmic drum]

I almost drown to death in the caves between the jellyshroom forest and the buld zone

Thank god for that brain coral

[worldly valve]

Its a puzzle of sorts. Using too many lillies will hurt you, tho not make impossible

[worldly valve]

Hells to the ya. The purp turt wall is huge

Do you habe ultra highs yet void?

[karmic drum]

Oh and of course my next transmission was lifepod 12

I was just out there 😭

[worldly valve]

Ohh you are true following it by radios i see

[viral saffron]

IT IS SO BRIGHT

[karmic drum]

No. I'm just cycling them out so I can trigger the sunbeam

[worldly valve]

See my broken ass brain only wants one thing, snd it's disgusting

Azure seaglide

[karmic drum]

Same

[worldly valve]

So i rush...tho in hindsight i dont really need to do that

[karmic drum]

I already have everything I need to fix the battery

I just need to go get it

[worldly valve]

Ye

I tend to grab it first

Tho also lets me grab bulbo tree

[viral saffron]

I turned bloom on...

I FUCKING HATE PHYTOPLANKTON

[karmic drum]

You'll love them later

But for rn they're gonna suck

[viral saffron]

ik i need them later

||I got the seamoth scoop, I could make the feeder, although idk if thats actually useful||

[karmic drum]

Oh it is BUSTED in acu's

[viral saffron]

why

breeding?

[karmic drum]

Ye

It super charges it

[viral saffron]

...does eating creepvine seed clusters make you slow as fuck

[worldly valve]

Yes!

[viral saffron]

...why?

[worldly valve]

I too discovered that

[viral saffron]

I should be oily

and fast

lol

[worldly valve]

Nahhh

They have anti electric properties that seep through your suit and into the seaglide

[karmic drum]

Read their entry

[worldly valve]

What causes this reaction is the chemical reaction of the surface of the seed, and the liquid inside

[karmic drum]

Basically no wild plants expect for the ones you grow in doors can be eaten

[worldly valve]

It technically should make your seaglide and neaby electrocs go boom but

||im just bullshittong you but it is hilarious that it sloes the seaglide too||

[worldly valve]

Not strictly true

[viral saffron]

yeah I was gonna say that makes no sense lmao

[karmic drum]

Everything I've eaten has tried to kill me

[worldly valve]

A lot of it does😁

The clusters dont "kill"

If you only eat one the debuff isnt too bad

But hw was probably about to die

Because who tue fuck eats those outside of death

The

Deep

What are the called

Not vines

Little orb thingy

[viral saffron]

||void bubbles?||

[worldly valve]

That just makes you trip a lil

[viral saffron]

oh idfk

[worldly valve]

Nooo base game plant

[karmic drum]

I didn't say I died lol

just that it tried to kill me

[worldly valve]

Lololol fair

[viral saffron]

fucking... finally....

only took me... uhhhh

35 hours....

[karmic drum]

Ugh... I still have to get the Azurite 😭

[karmic drum]

Medkits, seaglide, and a prayer

[karmic drum]

The funniest part is how the mk1 isn't even good

[viral saffron]

I know

mk2 time

which thank fucking god I already have the blueprint for

[karmic drum]

The mk2 is pretty much useless without deep diving gear

[viral saffron]

wtf is ||platinum||

[karmic drum]

And deep diving gear takes extra work for it be really good

[karmic drum]

Hehehehe

||you didn't pay attention at lifepod 9||

[viral saffron]

oh no I saw the ||deep stalkers or whatever they're called||

welp, going back there then

their rocks despawned I think

lmao

[solar vortex]

out of curiosity what's the ||sanctuary flower|| model

[karmic drum]

||you want the shiny white rocks they like||

[solar vortex]

they probably couldve figured that out with the first hint ;v

[viral saffron]

yea lol

[solar vortex]

actually with the pda pages being marked as unread when i load my file

that makes me think the two pings from "nowhere" are similar pages i haven't gotten yet

||mostly because one of them is on the auroraresource page lol||

i'll see when i get there, shrug

the mountains have returned to normal. wah.

[viral saffron]

||whoever said reapers cant follow you into this biome lied||

[solar vortex]

||yeah there's one that's mostly in the biome lmao||

[viral saffron]

||the void bubbles are honestly pretty creepy||

[solar vortex]

dont know if i need to do this. hey i did lol

[errant cairn]

Yeet them with a ||azurite|| repulsion cannon

[errant cairn]

They aren't supposed to be able to. I think they'll swim away in time

Or someone lied to me too

[solar vortex]

somehow didn't ||drive my seamoth into a geyser until now||

[worldly valve]

Ive never had a reaper be there ever🤣

[errant cairn]

Same

[errant cairn]

Lmao I avoid them at all costs tbh

[solar vortex]

actually this seems unintended ||considering the pda page just shows me the ILZ||

[worldly valve]

What happened?

[trail ether]

rouge cradle

given a very special texture

@worldly valve might recognize it

hint: look down on one from above

for best results eliminate all other light sources

[karmic drum]

Genius

Better yet. Yeet some shit at them with it

[solar vortex]

||time to go to the void lifepod! ! !!! 😬 ||

[errant cairn]

indeed

[worldly valve]

could someone link me ez craft?

ez

[errant cairn]

just search nexus mods the one by randyknap is good

[solar vortex]

actually i still don't know ||electrolytes||

[karmic drum]

Finding Nanocarbon sounds like it's gonna be hell

[viral saffron]

finding any resource in this mod is hell

lol

[karmic drum]

Naw

Most of them are easy

You just have to be patient

And not have tunnel vision

[solar vortex]

||went thru the hatch in the blood kelp base and i got softlocked ;(||

[karmic drum]

||ye. It locks. But I'm not sure why. Just testing something here. Do you have all your degasi pda?||

[solar vortex]

i think so??

i doubt that's related

[worldly valve]

I bet i know the solution but i cant be sure

[viral saffron]

okay where the fuck is another place to find the ||bioprocessor fragments? I got the 2 in dunes and one in mountains but I just cannot find the last one, I've been looking around the crash zone but idk||

and yes I'm using a scanner room

[worldly valve]

ill say crash zone isnt it

[viral saffron]

||I moved my scanner room all over dunes and didn't find anything other than 2 fragments||

well and the wrecks obviously

peak time capsule holy shit

infinite seaglide battery

[worldly valve]

iii nuice

i think that is the best find

[viral saffron]

I might prefer stillsuit honestly

[worldly valve]

yeah but this is the only real progression locked one

[viral saffron]

actually nah cus eventually I'll be wearing the ||electrochemical suit|| constantly

[worldly valve]

super good qol

i guess advamnced wiring kit is also a good one to get

hardened knife is neat to find

rare knife

[viral saffron]

its not even that bad

to craft

[barren oar]

thankfully that is not the only entrance

[viral saffron]

aaaand I fucking lost them because I forgot to save and died to the FUCKING PHYTOPLANKTON

I HATE PHYTOPLANKTON SO MUCH

found the same time capsule and it was empty

I wanna cry

(not really but still)

[worldly valve]

Rest in piece charge swims

Tsunami hardly knew you

[past osprey]

wait is this mod for legacy or 2.0?

[silk pond]

legacy

[viral saffron]

i swear to god where the fuck is the last ||bioprocessor fragment||

I am going insane

this mod could be some kinda psychological torture

make someone play it till they beat it, only time they can stop is to eat and sleep

actual horror movie material

(not really I love this mod, its just, frustrating, at times)

[solar vortex]

i can confirm there is more than 4

[willow fox]

I think something is broken in the mod because ||tonguelillies haven't added a single percent to Accumulating Minerals|| in the last 2 hours

[barren oar]

it can only progress under specific circumstances

Which Nobody Has Really Been Able To Reproduce Even Knowing The Correct Method but maybe that was just bad luck

[willow fox]

so this system just doesn't work at the moment, right?

[barren oar]

reika managed to use it and she says it works perfectly fine (paraphrased)

just that it hasnt yet been reproduced by players

at least, not those that talk here (which is a small subset)

that said, it's not progression blocking even if you can't manage to get them to work as they should

cant really be any less vague without spoiling it outright, though

[tight creek]

As same as you, there was an Unknown Object in Lost River Lab. I don't know what it is. Otherwise, it could be Lost River Lab.

[trail ether]

that is completely untrue

[karmic drum]

It's a puzzle. You gotta figure it out

[karmic drum]

I DIED GETTING THE AZURITE 😭

[errant cairn]

[karmic drum]

I thought I had enough health

I was nearly full

And died in a secon

Wair

[errant cairn]

if theres enough azurite it will decimate you

[karmic drum]

I know whar happened

[errant cairn]

yea

[karmic drum]

The first piece I grabbed was isolated

The second was clustered

[errant cairn]

exactly

[karmic drum]

Why didn't I bring the propulsion cannon

[willow fox]

ok, my opinion is that giving puzzles in a sandbox game without giving any hint of the solution is complete nonsense

[karmic drum]

Well that's this entire mod

Probably should've read the wiki before playing

[willow fox]

how was i supposed to figure out ||about crushing salt blocks? throwing all my resources into the crusher?||

[karmic drum]

Fuck it. We go again. Smater this time

[errant cairn]

wish ya luck

[karmic drum]

This is my tism. Loosing again and again until I win

[errant cairn]

ooookaaay

[karmic drum]

https://tenor.com/view/ive-drstrange-gif-26305530

[willow fox]

the thing is that the wiki hasn't been updated for a long time, and there is no information about most of the mechanics and puzzles

[barren oar]

that i think you were supposed to be told after you get your first sample

as a way to nudge you towards there being a secondary method of obtainment

[karmic drum]

I meant on the nature of the mod in general. Reika is a big advocate for critical thinking

[willow fox]

it's very hard to experiment when in the only suitable biome I have 5 fps because of the huge amount of glowing plankton every 2 steps

maybe this is my personal problem, but it would be much better if there were at least some hints

[barren oar]

to be fair, there is a very slight hint towards how you're to get it

[karmic drum]

I personally enjoy the very minor amount of direction

But then again. I have autism, adhd, and just a tablespoon of clinical insanity 😅

[barren oar]

the problem is the hint is so vague that you can realistically have three different interpretations, and the system so actually frail that you have to be lucky to "stumble" upon the answer

[barren oar]

did you figure out and were able to obtain tungsten without looking it up in here genuine question

ur the only person i dont think ive got a clear idea abt this of

the primary method i mean, not the secondary that is just a glorified hour long grinding session

though honestly i feel ||drilling the vanilla salt big blocks|| should also yield it, because otherwise stumbling upon it is... dubious - i dont think anybody would think to try that if they weren't guided to it (though there is a slightly higher chance now because of a recently added mechanic)

[errant cairn]

theres so much phytoplankton near my base i can fill more than a ||storage room wall locker|| with it

[karmic drum]

||dude the way locker size can expand is crazy. Last save I had wall lockers as big as regular lockers. And my regular lockers were 63 slots||

My storage room wasn't even that filled out either

[errant cairn]

real

[karmic drum]

That bonus might be one of my favorite parts of the mod

It makes storage feel like way less of a chore

And goes great with mods like ez craft and resource monitor

[barren oar]

ultimately, though, from what ive played, tungsten and nanocarbon are the only kinda shit parts in the mod - one is hinted at by a single line, have to get semi lucky with obtaining it and you don't see it anywhere else, and the other is just kinda plain bullshit without save scumming and before you get the convenient qol (read: required) upgrade lol

[errant cairn]

ohhh yeahhh i forgor about resource monitor

[barren oar]

of course, said upgrade requires you to suffer through collecting it 'manually' at least once, though i hear its supposed to spawn close to you for the first piece you get? certainly didnt feel like that though

[karmic drum]

I think I'll be able to get the multipurpose room before the ship detonates

[errant cairn]

its not hard

[karmic drum]

Already got the scanner, and bum rushed all the silver I need. Just gotta get some quartz and fiber mesh to make the rebreather and the other high capacity tank... wait. I need a stalker tooth

Unless I can make the dive 250m there and back on just two high capacity tanks

But I doubt that

[errant cairn]

oh yeah you can

[karmic drum]

+scanning time

[errant cairn]

with a seaglide

[karmic drum]

Oh I don't have that lol. It's 5 fragments on hard mode

[errant cairn]

bruh

[karmic drum]

Instead of the normal 2

[barren oar]

what you playing with again

hard c2c with vanilla hardcore?

[karmic drum]

Seaglide is like 6, bioreactor and scanner room are like 5, laser cutter is 10

[karmic drum]

c2c hardmode enabled, hardmode, and Reika's recommended additional qol mods

[barren oar]

i see

really from what ive seen the worst c2c hardmode change has to be the reduced liquid breathing capacity that really fucking stinks

[karmic drum]

Getting a stalker tooth will be pretty easy though. I just don't normally stress the rebreather enough to bother making them drop them myself

[barren oar]

though i didnt inspect them too closely either

[karmic drum]

Normally I just wait to find them on the floor

[errant cairn]

@trail ether is it intentional that i absolutely have to use the ||azurite|| repair tool to repair the data boxes because they keep being damaged?

[barren oar]

tf

back when i last played like 4 updates ago they'd only break once not being repaired for several seconds

[fiery fiber]

If you use the map scanner on the sea floor that might give some really good hints where to look for the data pieces

[karmic drum]

Yes. If it's percentage keeps flickering then you need an azurite charged repair tool to fix it

[errant cairn]

okay i have an acu which egg should i hatch to farm poop?

[karmic drum]

I have no clue. Last time I was just making runs to the sea treaders path

[willow fox]

any you want

[errant cairn]

bet

[karmic drum]

I genuinely don't even know what creatures do shit

[willow fox]

you just need to maintain a healthy ecosystem

[trail ether]

that is not the intended approach

[karmic drum]

Ah yea. I normally only match the biome. I fall short on plant balance and actually incorporating carnivores

[tight creek]

TBH, I had an idea to edit correct info of C2C in that wiki, but somebody convinced me not to do that. So I gave up.

[barren oar]

idk pooping is weird ive had two predators and neither shat

one of them was the stalker which i guess makes sense since then they'd be two in one

the other was the ampeel iirc

[karmic drum]

Honestly I don't even know where I would've gotten crab snake egga for my occulus. Also how do you properly setup bonuses for fish that aren't associated with a particular biome? Like EyeEye and bladder fish?

[barren oar]

despite having the correct ecosystem for both

[idle mulch]

hi I'm having problems with sea to sea, I'm using it with FCS and every 20 minutes of playing it doesn't let me save :c idk what is happening

[barren oar]

stuff may be associated with, and work for, multiple biomes at once

basically, if you can find X in Y and Z biomes, you can use X for both

with some notable exceptions presumably as oversights

[worldly valve]

My testing is super minimal post fix. Has anyone else even tested?

[barren oar]

i thought there were other tests in the channel too?

was i just misremembering how many tried it

[willow fox]

ok, i tried using ||plankton, plankton feeder, mushroom disk spores (both blue and yellow)||, nothing works, still 0%. Tell me, am i on the right track?

[barren oar]

one of them is supposedly right

[willow fox]

Well, now I'm absolutely sure that something isn't working as it should.

[willow fox]

I've gone through all the options in a circle several times and still haven't achieved anything, looks like I'll have to give up and go ||desalinate the sea for 10 wagons of salt||

[errant cairn]

i love the save button

its my favorite button

[errant cairn]

lol im experiencing something different but similar

[worldly valve]

Do you have a base made in blood kelp trwnch by chance

[worldly valve]

You def should play outer wilds

[karmic drum]

You can exploit your save button?

[errant cairn]

guys what should i do next? ||farm lithogel or get stuff for azurite batteries??||

[errant cairn]

no. but i spam it in my moth and base

so useful

[worldly valve]

If you have a water generator you get enough salt for a block very frequently

[worldly valve]

You are, ita about positioning

[worldly valve]

Post fix? Not so sure

[willow fox]

no, it was because of ||the geyser filter||, as well as the huge amount of entities in the mushroom forest

[willow fox]

I need about 10 nuclear reactors to supply that many water generators

[willow fox]

I tried ||under a mushroom, on a mushroom, in the center of plankton, in dunes, in grassy plateaus and even on a damn alien ventilation||

what exactly do you mean by position, biome or what?

[worldly valve]

Biome is importsnt, long as you have base plankton at least

I know little to nothing on the nushroom spores

|| The lillies and the plankton have colliders you cant see ||

[errant cairn]

i have 22 alien feces is that enough

[willow fox]

in C2C there is no word enough

[barren oar]

its going to be enough for a long time lol

you can get a lot of mileage out of your shit if you play your cards right

i dont think ive harvested more than that myself

[worldly valve]

|| if you get efficiency going on the better poo juice forumla things really arent too bad||

[barren oar]

...theres a better recipe?

i just used ||the efficiency gel item|| every time i processed shit (except the very first time because you dont have access to them back then, i think)

oh wait you mean one recipe is through the fabricator and one is through the bioprocessor

[karmic drum]

Got the multipurpose room. Not before the reactor went off. But before the radiation spread

[silk pond]

bruh

[worldly valve]

Oh yeah gyeser filter is something i usually leave at 99%