SeaToSea

[errant cairn]

for the hours ive been in the mountains

[barren oar]

just that sometimes it doesnt spawn at the one ur at so you have to go to another in the meantime

but given how long you've been at it idk

[errant cairn]

what im going to do is figure out if they once spawned then respawn them

cause they should be able to spawn in a fresh world as soon as i trigger it

wait whats the techtype/classid/Scanner Room Identifier (whatever that is) for it?

i might be able to force it to spawn

@trail ether ?

[worldly valve]

Have you finished lifepod 14,m

[karmic drum]

||I forgot I needed volcanic traces to make plasteel. I haven't found those yet. No acoustic upgrade for me 💀||

[worldly valve]

Oofty

[unreal flame]

to my knowledge, the only triggers for ||sunbeam debris are the destruction of the sunbeam and constructing a scanner room to reveal their locations||

[karmic drum]

||sounding like I'll probably need the heat res suit to get my hands on em. That's my line of thinking anyway. Which means the void.....||

https://tenor.com/view/sad-tantrum-angry-i-dont-want-to-gif-11164357

[unreal flame]

also to my knowledge, the second condition is cause for some issues regarding spawning

[errant cairn]

if thats the one in the ||mountains||, yes

[worldly valve]

Was just checkin

[worldly valve]

Not really

[errant cairn]

whats the second condition

i dont wanna decompile/look at the source to find if it has or has not spawned

[unreal flame]

i literally just said it?

[errant cairn]

im stupid

uhhhh yeah i think i need to force it to appear on the scanner room then it will spawn

which is stupid

but ill have to find and get the legacy runtime editor

[unreal flame]

||iirc, as a technical object, it should always exist secretly; it just needs the sunbeam to explode to be a scan option?||

[errant cairn]

||Yeah A. that story event has already triggered B. I triggered it again with precursorgunaim and C. not sure what else i could do||

[unreal flame]

dm'd you

[karmic drum]

Interesting. I suppose I'll have to reevaluate my strategy theb

[pine ginkgo]

A lot of my ||sunbeam debris was invisible/just not there once I got to it, but once I found a couple and picked it up then the others started spawning. It was specifically a piece of avolite.||

[errant cairn]

ty

[wise hound]

Is it normal that I can't use the repair tool to repair this door?
It shows the progress circle for repairs, but no progress is made when using the repair tool on it

this is the door in the wreck with the "Who is Dragon Industries" PDA

[silk pond]

its a common glitch

[worldly valve]

Theres a tigre plant below it

The wreck

If you can kill it

Should repair

Tho. This one has been left alone

I wonder if this isnt a glitch lol

I wonder if the glitch is being able to repair it easily😆

[karmic drum]

Anyone know how to distract a warper? Or am I just gonna have to throw hands?

[worldly valve]

What tools do you got

[karmic drum]

||stabbed it a couple times, got the recirculation mask, fuck that databox sucked. Guessing I'm not making much use of that without a specialized tank though||

[wise hound]

where below it, I don't see it. Inside the wreck?

[karmic drum]

||oh. And I found some weird egg while exploring lifepod 14's base again||

[worldly valve]

Recirc mask is great build it

[karmic drum]

Isn't it useless without a specialized tank for the fluid?

[worldly valve]

What makes you think that?

[karmic drum]

Not sure honestly, just a hunch

Screw it. I got the mats. I'll make it

Can't be any worse then dealing with these crag field bone sharks

[karmic drum]

||it was a biter? What am I supposed to do with a single biter? I mean it was added by the mod. So it must be something...||

[silk pond]

can i get a clue as to where i find ||calcite||

[karmic drum]

@worldly valve you right. Even with no fluid the mask is amazing. It feels like my 02 effiency is doubled (that might be a placebo effect on my part though)

[karmic drum]

||and being able to dive between the 400m and 500m threshold is really nice. Now I can explore this wreck in the glass forest that I found||

[karmic drum]

||gets the liquid breathing system print. Screws up and looses the ability to breathe normal air ||

[karmic drum]

||made it to lifepod 15, got all the loot, but I had to leave my seamoth behind. For the moment it appears to be in one piece. But... I'm not sure how long it will stay that way. Now If I can just find electrolytes. I'll be able to build a cyclops||

||nope. Apparently I missed a step. I was supposed to get nanocarbon before hull plating. Which is either with the sunbeam. Or in the crash zone...||

||way I see it. Don't got much of a choice. I'm going back for my moth||

[barren oar]

it appears to be in what now

also creatures dont attack stuff thats too far away its chilling lol

||if going lore-wise, ghosties wouldn't even notice an unpiloted seamoth especially if it has the acoustic module... since it makes no sound while turned off, regardless of the module||

[karmic drum]

Ok. That joke is so old

[karmic drum]

And yea. But no clue how I'm going to retrieve it. Clearly the acoustic module wasn't for going out there

[barren oar]

why not

[karmic drum]

Or maybe with the m2 depth I was going too fast and making too much noise... no. That can't be it. They all still spawned on top of me when I went in for retrieval with my moth

[barren oar]

||did you try without the module lol you get ambushed by 3 ghosts in the span of ten seconds||

oh you did

[karmic drum]

Well at least in my mind... is that you're able to get to and from lifepod 15. Without setting them off...

[karmic drum]

Yea. Learned that a while ago

[barren oar]

it's deliberately set up so you can't do that

without it

required progression block

[karmic drum]

Yea. I can see that. And they still spawned on top of me. With the mod

So I gotta wonder what I missed

[barren oar]

mustve been skill issue tbh i never had such issues myself

though do be wary that they wont go away once they have noticed you, even with the module

its just to make you unnoticeable while inside the vehicle

[karmic drum]

Like I said. Maybe it was the mk depth. Which was makimg me faster, and thereby louder

[karmic drum]

Yea. I learned that

I had to make two trips due to my skill issue

[barren oar]

then you couldnt dive deep for the Zone™

wait how does the depth module make you faster

oh nvm ur using the expanded seamoth module mod right

[karmic drum]

Some of the extra mods Reika uses

[karmic drum]

Ye

[barren oar]

yep

yeah i dont have experience with them highly likely thats the cause then

[karmic drum]

Which is gonna suck... as I have now have to make a second module with just the acoustic, and then pilot that out, to get my old one back... or just say fuck it entirely, and make a new one, without that mod

[barren oar]

or you could just

reload your save

[karmic drum]

I saved after the fact 😭

[barren oar]

damn rip better restart your save

[karmic drum]

Nah F- that

I'll chug on

Making a new moth will be a triviality now that I haven't had to spend almost 36hrs finding all the mats

[karmic drum]

Prints* not mats

[barren oar]

oh actually yeah you wont be losing much by making a second module now

you might find to be a bit strained on the ore used though

but there's been an update recently to mend to the fact it takes 45 Fucking Resources

[karmic drum]

Outside of some Azurite farming. But that's small tome tbh

[barren oar]

yeah the problem is there isnt really that much in the world

[karmic drum]

Oh. Yea I never made it with the old bit

[barren oar]

at least not until you go deep

[karmic drum]

I'll have to make my considerations then

[barren oar]

but thats not a problem now either

[karmic drum]

Got em with creature decoys

Apparently even ghost leviathans aren't smart enough to get past those

[barren oar]

lol what

you managed to reach your seamoth with them?

[karmic drum]

Yup

[barren oar]

insane

[karmic drum]

They chased all three decoys

Dropped em succession as I approached by azurite seaglide

[barren oar]

yo @trail ether is this (reach lifepod 15 using naught but a seaglide with creature decoys) intended lol

presumably not a strategy that'd work in The Zone™

[karmic drum]

Performing a total op on the lifepod would be impossible

[barren oar]

mostly because its too deep

couldnt you just keep placing decoys

[karmic drum]

I only had enough time to drive off with my sub

[karmic drum]

Not once your stationary. She probably will want to update their ai though

[barren oar]

even then you could just stasis rifle near the lifepod

which is presumably what you're meant to do anyway

[karmic drum]

And I'm gonna uninstall that mod. Since it seems to cause some problems

[barren oar]

and save yourself the effort & resources of making the module

[karmic drum]

Oooh.... I only found one of the six special metal for that

[barren oar]

i didnt do it with the stasis rifle for the record i just got lucky and entered the seamoth in a bugged state so i could repair it while moving

[karmic drum]

I triggered that the other day. Used it to commit bone shark slaughter

[barren oar]

because it slowing down to like 10% speed when its at 50% health or something is damn brutal

i think it happens if you hold sprint before entering and let go right as you enter?

ive found it usually draws out your selected item while running in the base if you open a storage container when you let go, so probably the same bug

[karmic drum]

Oh wait. I don't need to uninstall the mod. I can just turn off the seamoths bonus speed

Ok. Now we go for that deep zone

[barren oar]

glhf

[karmic drum]

Can't do anything without breathing fluid, so I probably have to get the tank first. But I made it down without encountering anything nasty

[barren oar]

:)

[trail ether]

what??

[karmic drum]

Maybe that one wasn't on your list

Sorrt

[barren oar]

the seamoth module mod

[karmic drum]

I should've doubled back before saying anything

Regardless. The passive speed boost was what was causing my issue. 100% my fault

[trail ether]

absolutely fucking not

[karmic drum]

My bad...

[trail ether]

I block seamoth module mods

[barren oar]

huh

[trail ether]

there should be no module mods installed with C2C

[karmic drum]

I didn't get a warning...

I mean I'll take it out

[trail ether]

what is the mod

[karmic drum]

Purely out of principle

[trail ether]

clearly it is not blocked because it is one I do not know of

[karmic drum]

I'll get that to you shortly

[barren oar]

oh you had cyclops module mods not seamoth

(reika)

my bad lol

[karmic drum]

OH. I know how I found it. And why I mistook it for being on the list. It was on of one the Git pages when I was installing the other mods

And my brain scrambled em

[barren oar]

come to think of it how do you find mods to blacklist

are you just occasionally looking at newest releases on nexus

[karmic drum]

"Upgraded Vehicles"

Now that I know

[barren oar]

excluding when a player reports using something which should be blacklisted

[trail ether]

what is the modid

[karmic drum]

I'm gonna nix it

[karmic drum]

"Id": "UpgradedVehicles",

[trail ether]

and blocked

[karmic drum]

Good.

[barren oar]

gg

[trail ether]

mostly from seeing people using them

[barren oar]

fair enough

[trail ether]

that was how I found out about most of the worst offenders

shit like Red Baron

[karmic drum]

I've uninstalled it as well. This won't be the last time I play c2c. But that doesn't mean I'm gonna cheap out on a beta run

[barren oar]

the what

[trail ether]

because it is not coincidence that most of their userbase is also the stupidest section of the playerbase

[barren oar]

seamoth call sounds fucking awesome but i can see why that'd be an issue lol

[karmic drum]

It's better to curate what can and can't be used for mods like c2c. Otherwise you just get all sorts of false bug reports, and a bad crowd and just... yea

[trail ether]

you should have seen it early on

[karmic drum]

I can only imagine....

[trail ether]

in part because of the sensationalist youtube stuff made about it more people were using it alongside cheaty bullshit than were even trying to play it properly

[karmic drum]

I loathe subnautica yt

Genuinely

[trail ether]

i had people unironically posting videos of dogfighting reapers with a flying laser-cannon-equipped seamoth

[karmic drum]

Especially where mod coverage is concerned

[karmic drum]

The opinions of the masses is not an intelligent one...

[trail ether]

it was always these people doing things like begging to be handheld for every unlock and struggling to figure out things like "this tool only works if you also have this other tool" too

[karmic drum]

And the funniest part? Is it's the desire to be part of sensationalism which drives them to install c2c. Without ever asking themselves if it was an experience they would actually enjoy

I knew going in that I would like this mod/mod set. I've been stumbling in the dark like a deaf bat... but I knew I'd like it

[barren oar]

c2c is perhaps the biggest mod that subnautica has to offer so of course it will be used lol

out of the currently released mods, at least

rota and red plague will probably combat that as they evolve

actually i dont know how much content plague offers so i cant say much on that front

[karmic drum]

I think there's a difference between offering content. And offering gameplay. c2c offers you as much playtime as any modern story game that you'd pay $60 for. I can't see red plague, rot, or cotv. Offering anything close

But all of them will be more applicable to the "average player"

[barren oar]

oh right cotv exists too havent heard of it in a while

but i thought they're all intended to expand on the story too, like c2c does?

albeit c2c does try to keep things mostly vanilla which they might not

even down to the models (based)

[karmic drum]

I mean they are. I just don't see them offering the same level of depth and purpose

[barren oar]

thats fair

[karmic drum]

Which is where the time I spend in c2c comes from

That isn't to say they won't be great mods

I just know which survival experience I prefer more

[trail ether]

that is more because i do not have the ability to make my own

not the skills, not the tools, not even the unity IDE

though as it happens I am changing that last one right now for Techtonica, which might also help with sN

[barren oar]

is techtonica made in unity 2019.4

well thats sn living large's version, legacy i think is like one or two updates back

[trail ether]

no https://i.imgur.com/C9yxW4x.png

[barren oar]

damn rip

[trail ether]

apparently no compat

the versions have to match exactly to load an AssetBundle

[barren oar]

yeah best to use the exact ver

[trail ether]

unity has less backwards compat than a fucking iphone

[barren oar]

probably to combat decompilers and such

er. not decompilers

asset extractors

though bundles would also be largely useless if you're still going to be using vanilla assets

since you cant load game prefabs using thunderkit, just components you can assign to your own shit

[trail ether]

well AssetBundles have come up here because that sporadic load crash C2C has is due to asset loading

seemingly OOM

which in turn appears to be because "loose" assets have a much larger memory footprint during load than bundled ones

combine that with how TT has no runtime prefab fetch capability - if you want a custom GO, you need an AssetBundle - and I decided to finally install unity

[barren oar]

it would be situationally helpful for stuff like constructable bounds because it's mentioned like 6 times in the server and there's 1. no good way to preview it in-game 2. no good way to add them programatically 3. you can build stuff inside of your custom constructables without them

these just kinda suck but theyre practically needed

[barren oar]

so you just cant (ab)use vanilla assets?

well actually theres definitely a way to access them because how else would the game spawn them in

you can set prefab references in components yes but the references have to start from somewhere

whether it be a singleton megaclass of all the prefabs or distributed about

[trail ether]

no you cannot fetch them

not the asset nor - crucially - the GO itself

[trail ether]

I asked and was told no such thing exists

by the leading mod devs

[barren oar]

huh

[trail ether]

https://i.imgur.com/VYdqdDS.png

[barren oar]

what the fuck do they use then

[trail ether]

that is what I said

[barren oar]

standard c# class instances that are just converted at runtime into objects within the player's view distance ??

that i feel would actually be way worse

[trail ether]

https://i.imgur.com/JTMWdjK.png

[barren oar]

insane

[trail ether]

I found their old news post I referenced there

https://steamcommunity.com/games/1457320/announcements/detail/6345064719882519356?snr=2___

it explicitly seems to talk about not really using GOs

they even do not use transforms

[worldly valve]

Getting there has never been the problem😆

[barren oar]

it immediately spawns three ghosts on your ass if you try going without the module

so that's clearly at least part of the problem lol

[worldly valve]

I mean the 3 makes it harder than it used to be

But voids issue was just getting the moth out

So just really needed to get and hop in

[barren oar]

yeah you used to be able to go there and grab it within the first like 10 hours

great times

[worldly valve]

Its only a 500m dash

[barren oar]

not that you could do anything with the blueprint until 30h in

[worldly valve]

I mean it doesnr exactly help😂😂

30h is if you moved fast

[barren oar]

yeah thats a bit underestimating too

[worldly valve]

I do miss ny creatue decoy strat

It was quite fun

I thoight it was intended tbh

Becauss creatue decoys in the base game

You know exist right

But are basicaly useless

Wbo uses them

On the site it says " try to get you to use items you normall wouldn't"

And idk it seemed like the intended strat tbh

[barren oar]

presumably theyre meant to be used for || the crash zone "green area" lifepod ||

these decoys

given reika recently made the creatures around there more aggressive(?)

[worldly valve]

I thought that was just || stasis rifle||

[barren oar]

myself i just stuck to the ground and couldnt get hit by anything

[worldly valve]

Yeah aparently you get fat there now

Or mayne it was the reapers that got fst

Coulda been both lol

I used to be able to || get to void spikes with cresture decoys. Well kinds. Void spikes does not work with seaglide lololololololopoll||

[barren oar]

yeah you arent surviving that one

[worldly valve]

|| you flicker in and out of existance||

[barren oar]

oh i was thinking just yknow lack of oxygen

[worldly valve]

|| ehhh the levathsns fuck off actuslly because you teleport rapidly||

|| i thought i was missing some kind of trigger. It seemed almost intended with how the levathans fucked off. I thought they were "afraid" of the area maybe||

|| because i heard a bit about galvanic||

[worldly valve]

Ohhhh well i had 2 liquid breathings at the time i thinkg

This was before i discovered having 2 liquid breathing tanks i the lost river is the most punishing decision one can make in this mod🙃

But i couldnt get to river

I didnt have the || sealed suit||

[karmic drum]

||@barren oar @worldly valve before I go and break the mod again. Is there any tech? Or any items, besides the recirc mask? That I'm meant to have for getting in and out of the wreck in the glass forest that has liquid breathing tank?||

[barren oar]

thats the only one i can remember i used, myself

||besides the 300m down base that goes from the top of one of the islands all the way down to about 100(?)m from the wreck, if that counts as tech||

||really just any way of having a nearby oxygen resupply area except for seamoth because it'll just get shredded by the Five Hundred Bonesharks nearby||

[karmic drum]

||well I already reduced the boneshark population by quite a bit. I'm generally against killing things in this game. But they're an exception. And cool. I just wanted to check. Because last time I multi-tanked. And that led me not being able to actually breathe low pressure air when I got back to my moth ||

[barren oar]

yeah ryley just kinda forgets how to breathe lol

[karmic drum]

So you gotta get creative and get in and out on one tank

Which really won't be hard

Just a couple of trips getting all the doors open

[karmic drum]

Ok... so if I'm down there too long... it causes me to loose access low pressure o2....

Yea I have to be missing a progression step

[barren oar]

its just the ocean's pressure crushing your lungs

as long as you dont die fast enough ur good

[karmic drum]

Whenever I die I reload. Because the game bitches at me about save corruption if I don't restart the entire game

[barren oar]

yeah thats how c2c works

[errant cairn]

Alr I'm looking at the source for the sunbeam debris

[karmic drum]

I think my next play is gonna be a full base in blood kelp two

Not just a multipurpose and a cranked out scanner room. But a full outpost at around 400-450m

[pine ginkgo]

Oh I must have missed something, ||I did LP 15 fine without the acoustic suppression and just my seaglide. Once I got a stasis rifle as long as you left at the closest point of the crash zone, and froze all ghosties before turning back, it wasn’t much of a problem. I did do it at the point where I could have made the acoustic suppression module though so its not like it ruined my progression or anything.||

||obviously I had to make the acoustic supression to go out into the void to get abyssoclase||

[errant cairn]

okay

my save is omega cursed

||the mountains base isnt spawning when it should, neither is sunbeam debris, i had to respawn all the water currents|| i might just regenerate everything

[pine ginkgo]

What do you think caused that?

[errant cairn]

thats the problem

idfk

[unreal flame]

I think it’s time to abandon it

[errant cairn]

fuck no

i have over 50h in that save

[last cedar]

will this mod and all the other mods of this creator ever come to 2.0?

[errant cairn]

when nautilus exits the pre release states

[unreal flame]

You have basically no way of progressing without significant manual intervention

[errant cairn]

cough cough clearing spawns cough cough

[worldly valve]

Yoi can use multiple tanks multiple tanks is amazing

[worldly valve]

Ha, you know that makes sense. Stasis riflr is strong and designed for another scenariot that has the samr data morr or less

[trail ether]

significant and continuous, and requiring knowledge that will take longer to acquire than restarting the save will, and be pure spoilers on top of that

[trail ether]

cough cough not that simple

[karmic drum]

I'm tempted to just restart myself. I've had whole wrecks vanish. Leaving only the supply crates and databank boxes floating in air

And restarting would also give me a chance to do things by a legitimate path of progression

Instead of discovering weird shortcuts or accidentally using mods that weren't supposed to be there

Or maybe I keep experimenting with the slightly buggy save for rn. Since the mod is still being updated, tweaked, and all that other fun jazz. And if I can finish this run, then do another if/when the mod/mods gets updated to 2.0

[karmic drum]

||got the liquid breathing tank. Turns out the not being able to breathe thing is temporary and seemingly relative to how long you're down below 500m... honestly I should've been able to figure that out way sooner ||

[karmic drum]

at last!!!

[unreal flame]

mmm

cerenkov

[worldly valve]

Why so bright

[karmic drum]

Because I haven't figured out what to do about the plankton being all over my doors

So most of the time those parts of my base are lit up like the sun

[worldly valve]

Turn off bloom?

[karmic drum]

Oh. Yea that might do it 😅

[worldly valve]

It will help at least

[karmic drum]

@viral saffron I'm just over 72hrs in and I'm just now making my way to the second degasi base. You're gonna be here a minute

||how do I eat and drink without momentarily dying while using liquid breathing?||

||ok.... seems like I'm gonna want a lot of that enzyme 42 stuff that I make from the peppers. Didn't realize I still needed to go back into the seamoth for the liquid 02 to refill ||

I'm dumb dumb

[worldly valve]

Either mother or qte

[worldly valve]

|| did you ever find bioprocessof efficiency?||

[karmic drum]

||No||

||rn I'm sitting in front of a vent trying to catch as many enzyme peepers as I can||

[worldly valve]

|| you were in a biome recenrly||

[karmic drum]

||I've been in a lot of those. Most recently the grand reef attempting to explore the degasi base||

||but if the enzymes work the way I think they do. I'll need like 6 of them to comb that place out||

[karmic drum]

||ok. How do I actually get out of the second degasi base after getting the tablet? Locking the hatch behind me isn't funny 😭||

Don't answer that

It's either a progression block. Or I'm blind

Either way I'll figure it out

[worldly valve]

Thats new

[karmic drum]

Several biomes to explore but not sure which one will be the best pick overall

[woven helm]

so how's c2c for 2.0 progress?

i think 0% right?

[trail ether]

well the patience certainly is

[woven helm]

still working on the legacy ver?

[viral saffron]

oh dear god

I mean, honestly, hell yeah

I fucking love mods like this

some things are a bit annoying, like just straight up not being able to craft the mk1 seamoth depth module yet but its so gooood

[karmic drum]

Good to hear. Too many people who just come to the mod cause it's big. And not cause they feel they'll like it

[viral saffron]

theres a reason I have 1k hours in terraria lmao

[viral saffron]

easy craft makes it sooooo much easier to manage stuff too. I'm I think 8 hours in and I just set up my basic base with a moon pool and whatnot lol

only annoying thing is the death system

I have to literally restart my entire game every time I die

[viral saffron]

I also made it hard on myself by not making the high capacity O2 tank and rebreather until just a bit ago lmao

every time I was out getting stuff I would remind myself to make it, and then immediately forget when I get to the life pod lmao

I had like 5 floating lockers

[patent nimbus]

||im having trouble finding the 1st seamoth depth module. I got 2/3 parts but cannot find the last for the life of me. is there anything to help find it?||

[worldly valve]

||scanning roons r great||

[patent nimbus]

|| that works? i tried and didnt see the ability to scan for them||

[barren oar]

they're very hit or miss

if you didnt set it up prior to getting the first two pieces, you'll now need to be basically within like 20m of the last piece for the scanner to find it (and not even, sometimes)

but wander about and you'll probably get it scanned

[patent nimbus]

ah thats unfortunate

just gonna keep searching then

[pine ginkgo]

I set mine up after getting the first and it took forever for data card to show up

Luckily I didn’t really need the mk1 until I need the mk2

300m does not really unlock anything that you couldnt reach before

[karmic drum]

My scanner rooms like to act up. I have one setup in the eastern grassy plateau's. And the damn thing says it can see calicite

When I know for a fact that there's none

[karmic drum]

Also damn. I reallt gotta find whatever this is 😭

Seems like my next major bottleneck

[barren oar]

whatever you do, do not shoot a stasis bubble at unmoving objects (sometimes unlocks them to start moving and, in most cases, causes severe lag making the save near unplayable)

besides this, you've definitely already been nearby where you need to go since its not like in the alz or whatever

[karmic drum]

||I feel like it's probably in the glass forest in a different wreck. Also I don't have the stasis rifle. Only found two pieces of avolite so far||

[barren oar]

i see

[karmic drum]

||I'm guessing I can find the rest of the avolite in the mountain island biome where I found the first two bits. Really tempted to swap off liquid breathing until I find what I need to make it more efficient||

[barren oar]

that ore is only found in one place and one place only, yes

and yep the lbs is nothing but harmful early on if above the 500m mark, i also switched until i was able to make it better

its just free without it lol

[karmic drum]

Yup. Realizing that very quickly. Without at least the first upgrade I need. It's just critically reducing my exploration capabilities

[karmic drum]

||did try going down to the void spikes last night. A second trip after already retrieving the remains of lifepod 15. But I couldn't see shit and a ghosty kept chasing me ||

[karmic drum]

@trail ether I forget and sorry for the maybe useless ping. But is the sea voyager c2c compatible?

[barren oar]

its been recently patched to be compatible with c2c progression

and got slightly nerfed as a result

[karmic drum]

That... almost makes me want to do a new save. With the goal of actually trying to follow the intended path of progression this time

Instead of getting random tech and trying to go wherever that will take me. Not realizing I'm short six other actual peices of tech to make it worth it

[barren oar]

it doesnt really modify much in the grand scheme of things

remember its an optional mod thats not even hinted at or mentioned on c2c's page

[karmic drum]

I know the boat itself won't change anything. I just don't like the spastic adhd way I've gone through this save

Plus it's starting to bug out a bit

[barren oar]

fair

[karmic drum]

I wanna take it a bit slower, really get into base building and resource farming.

Also the reinforcement pillars seem to sort of work. But they definitely aren't done

[errant cairn]

I might un-nerf some of the nerfs

im still really pissed about it

wait can't building tweaks force building on the sea voyager?

im trying now

also im forcing the respawn of everything with a seemingly random class id in the mountains

[errant cairn]

kinda. it just floats there cause its disabled on the inside of the sea voyager

[karmic drum]

I'd be fine with it not being a mobile base honestly. Wait... doesn't it have something that lets you tow a seatruck around? Or am i mad?

[karmic drum]

Seamoth*

Not seatruck

God anything but one of those

[errant cairn]

it has two of those. ig one for the prawn and one for the moth, but you can do two moths/prawns if you wanted

for it to be worth it at that price it better have the ability to quickly bring my moth from 200m or lower to the surface or something to make it actually worth it. honestly its just a dock now

not even worth taking to many places

until i get a prawn ig but by then ill be making a cyclops too

[karmic drum]

I never find that it takes insanely long to surface a moth. It would be rather painful for a cyclops though

Prawn*

Painful for a prawn

Adhd won't stop messing with my linguistics center

[errant cairn]

no but its as slow as the ascension speed of the moth

[twin lotus]

I may have an issue here

I pushed the databox with my propulsion cannon earlier in my run and now when I came back it's under the map ._.

[silk pond]

||my databank says that there is an unidentified object near the lost river laboratory cache but i dont know what that is. i believe i have scanned everything in the area||

can someone help

[twin lotus]

had to use warpforward to glitch myself under the map and it worked

[worldly valve]

Just turn of collsiion for a moment hahahha

[worldly valve]

Unidentifies objects are almost always a bug. I reccomend ignore

[silk pond]

oh ok

but isnt that log required to be filled out

[viral saffron]

||the god damn plankton or whatnot keeps getting stuck on my base and killing me if I leave through the front, how do I get rid of it||

not sure if that should be a spoiler or not but I did just in case

[silk pond]

here

[viral saffron]

||also, where the hell is the mk1 depth module for the seamoth, I lost the one I got from the aurora and I cannot find the fragments ANYWHERE||

[twin lotus]

going of memory here but small hint || use a scanner where other people have been||

[worldly valve]

Have you found any of tge frags?

What biomes have you completed?

[barren oar]

what?

[viral saffron]

none and I think just ones that only have a single lifepod or wreck or something

[barren oar]

did you interact with everything possible

[viral saffron]

like western grassy which is where my base is

I'm not sure where else I could even go, I kinda need it to go to the ||degasi base|| for example

well, I guess not really actually

[barren oar]

c2c will always require you to push yourself

[viral saffron]

also seems like saving and reloading my game despawns them

[barren oar]

make of that what you will

[worldly valve]

@barren oar unitentified objects are bugs

They are always inside walls and other silly things

[barren oar]

they are quite literally not though lol

have you ever been to one

[worldly valve]

They are tho

[viral saffron]

I lived out of my lifepod for the first 6 hours of my playthrough, I have experienced that a bit already lol

I had like 5 floating lockers

[barren oar]

if you have ever visited one ever, you will know they lead you to soemtht

something

[worldly valve]

There is nothing that scans as unidentified object that you can get to

[viral saffron]

well, I guess thats not really "pushing" me

[barren oar]

even if the exact position is unreachable

[viral saffron]

finding the ||azurite battery|| though definitely counts I think lol

[worldly valve]

Ive beaten the mod and done 2 half playthroughs

Unidentified object only occurs because scan room messed uo

[viral saffron]

alright time to scrape my seamoth along the top of a cave

[barren oar]

i wasnt debating them being in walls fwiw just that they are intentional things added by c2c that have meaning behind them

[worldly valve]

Im pretty certain its a bug caused by scanning rooms

[silk pond]

i think i did but im not sure

[barren oar]

Well it cant just tell you "hey idiot come here its a progression relevant position" can it

[worldly valve]

Nt memory serves as it only happens when you boot off/on when its doing a certain thing

Im pretty certain its not

[barren oar]

its a very eye-catching scannable emtry

[silk pond]

i will go back to the site once i have the ||enzyme canaster||

[barren oar]

they are how i found the || microfilter || recipe as well as several || precursor teleporters ||, and completely by accident, since i happened to have scanner rooms nearby

maybe it's just their name and ? icon thats bugged, but im 100% sure they are completely intentional

[worldly valve]

|| the bug often occues around alien stuff. But its a bug not an intentional draw ||

[barren oar]

ive had them appear on scanner rooms that i have not once activated

yeah youre just ragebaiting lol i was caught very well i must admit

[worldly valve]

Its been a long time since i saw the coding discussuon around the ufos

[viral saffron]

that was not that bad actually

[worldly valve]

What

[barren oar]

oh well ill get better at discerning ragebait sometime

[worldly valve]

Its not a rage bait:/

[silk pond]

wait what!?!

[worldly valve]

Unidentifiedobject

[silk pond]

oh

[worldly valve]

My recolection is that its a scanning bug that happens because you turned gane off in the middle of "something" i dont recall what that "something" waa

I do know they often happen around alien shit and caves

But you were never be able to locate one

[silk pond]

im so confused

[worldly valve]

Tho you could easily find alien stuff or other things when searching

As they appear underground

[silk pond]

what is in that slot

[worldly valve]

What slot?

[silk pond]

the unidentified one'

i showed an image up above

[worldly valve]

Its just a scanning room bug

You wont be able to locate it

[silk pond]

bruh

[worldly valve]

(But following them can lead you to things due to the nature of the bug)

Oh you are tsling about unown object in your pda list

Apologies

[silk pond]

yeah

[worldly valve]

I was refering to unitentified objext that scan room picks up

[silk pond]

yeah idk what that is

srry about the confusion

i guess i should have said unknown instead of unidentified

[viral saffron]

aaand there was nothing super useful there, great

[unreal flame]

@trail ether tagging to suggest making databoxes ignore prop/repcannon

[silk pond]

i just went back and still have no idea what that object is

[barren oar]

i must concede, i am finding nothing about these unidentified objects, though i was sure c2c added them

[silk pond]

im not talking about the scanner room one

[barren oar]

my best leads were the poi system and some method calling a poi marker system from dragon industries, yet both lead to dead-ends

the best way to check this would be through the worldgen data, but alas reika has wiped them clean from her repo some time ago and im not able to access my pc for a while longer to confirm

[barren oar]

i would also like to apologise for getting too heated back then

i thought it was obvious that the unidentified object just so happens to correlate to both useful findings (that alterra technology would not be able to scan, as evidenced by several vanilla pda logs) and c2c progression zones

• I've never seen it outside the context of c2c

[barren oar]

it is not obvious at all and, dare i say, pretty fucking stupid

if you think you've checked everything rational then there's still the irrational to check

[silk pond]

ok

[silk pond]

||i guess its just like the jellyshroom caves||

[barren oar]

Have Fun :)

[silk pond]

i feel like i have checked every tiny crevass

[silk pond]

i have no idea what it could be

it is just one small scan

[pine ginkgo]

Where are you?

[silk pond]

||lost river laboratory cache||

[pine ginkgo]

||have you found the alleviation canister?||

[silk pond]

yes

[pine ginkgo]

||the unidentified object scans stay for me when they’re the alien caches||

[pine ginkgo]

Oh then Im not sure about that

||I was talking about the actual “unidentified object” in scanner rooms||

||those stay for me even after Ive explored them, specifically in the lost river cache and the one in the southern grassy plateaus with the microfilter recipe||

[silk pond]

yeah

i havnt ever noticed tjhem

i am just tryin to fill out that log completely

[worldly valve]

I am sorry my speaking atyle was causing you anger.

I also have been stressed from a badlt run tabletopgame this weekend(by myself) and that might have come through a bit

[worldly valve]

All is forgiven. Again im sure i could have communcated in a more constructive way myself

[twin lotus]

I built a scanner room there and it was life-saving but I've spent like 4 hours previous to doing that so I feel your pain

[viral saffron]

I'll set up a scanner room there then, still have yet to build one at all though lol

[twin lotus]

I've done an excel sheet to quickly access all the ressources needed to build a scanner room + else, having a lot around the world will help you more then you think

[twin lotus]

If someone can make use of this, here it is

[viral saffron]

I'll have to get one of those myself actually, also I might just do a bioreactor instead

well, actually, heat should be fairly easy in the jellyshroom caves

[viral saffron]

wtf is that range

lol

[worldly valve]

It doeant look too crazy to me

[viral saffron]

its wayyy less than the default vanilla scanner room range

barely 50 meters

well, probably 150

just 50 would be so tiny

[worldly valve]

Imnprobably just used to excansion

[viral saffron]

||okay is there actually seamoth depth module mk1 fragments or am I stupid, I swear I have searched every biome I could and I have found nothing||

[worldly valve]

So what biomes have you completed?

You have a log that tells you if there is more to explore

Alao have you been searching by hand or scanner rooms?

Addtionally, have you considered multiple air tanks. The depth module i think people over value

[viral saffron]

I'm gonna go back and look over every biome I haven't done yet, and try and use a scanner room too

also gonna make like 20 beacons for each biome

[karmic drum]

The depth module honestly isn't important early game

I can only think of like... a wreck I'd actually want to use it to get closer to. Instead of relying soley on multiple tanks

[worldly valve]

Are you using the pda to check your completed biomes?

[viral saffron]

yea, I realized I hadn't finished the western grassy plateaus so I'll go back there now with a scanner room

also DAMN the storage modules on the seamoth have a lot of room

[worldly valve]

Also, have you been htting play on pda logs?

[viral saffron]

half of them dont wortk

||like ALL the ones on the gun island dont work when I press play, so I just read them||

[worldly valve]

Yeah the c2c ones dont

[viral saffron]

||the ones from lifepod 9 do though, dunno about 15 since its literally behind the aurora||

[worldly valve]

What about the vanilla ones?

To be honest

I think the mark 1 moduoe trigfwr clue is kinda really bad

[viral saffron]

oh I've beaten vanilla at least 5 times now

[worldly valve]

Its as bad as the clue that hints towards the jellyshroom caves in base game

[viral saffron]

the jellyshroom hint is fine?

the pda literally says theres caves nearby

[worldly valve]

I dont think it is

Its a voice log*

Not a pda

[viral saffron]

oh yea

[worldly valve]

An un marks voice log at that

So if you dont immediately check it out

[viral saffron]

the one from, what was it, 17, where he just says some "grim looking snake creature"

[worldly valve]

There is a reql good chance youll have a great game of

"Where did that random voice clip play again? I think i waa here...but i was doing a thing...and..."

[trail ether]

are you sure that is a battle you want to pick

[trail ether]

no

where the fuck did you get that idea

[trail ether]

that is literally what I chose to call the ping for in-universe consistency/lore reasons

it has nothing to do with "i am a bug and data is missing"

[trail ether]

I thought I did

I remember thinking about ot

[unreal flame]

i think i remember that too

[trail ether]

I do not have voice actors yet

feel free to offer your services to change that

though those logs need three people, or at least what sounds like three people

[viral saffron]

oh, hell yeah. idk how great my voice is but it would be so cool to be able to do something for this mod

[trail ether]

i was mostly being sarcastic but if you genuinely are interested it would be very helpful

though as stated a single person is better suited to eg pod 1 or unknown survivor

[viral saffron]

yeah that makes sense lmao, but, yeah I would love to

I haven't made it that far in yet but I fucking love your mods

idk how it took me this long to find it, I totally would've played it sooner

[trail ether]

C2C is not exactly topping the popularity lists

that niche is reserved for "OMG LOL EPIC LEVIATHAN XXX KILLER XXX " mods

[worldly valve]

They are unfindable and live in walls?

[viral saffron]

lmfao, true

[errant cairn]

idk. i have many methods to counter you, i just dont know what methods you have to counter me

[trail ether]

and I shall not tell you

[errant cairn]

or "OMG HYPER SCRY MOD"

[trail ether]

but I will say my motivation highly likely exceeds tyoyurs

as does my action ceiling

[errant cairn]

i do not wish for you to tell me. i simply wish for you to sit back and relax as i eventually decide to not "u-nerf" some nerfs

[trail ether]

also i have sunscreen in my eyes

so i am not exactly in a generous mood

pain has that efect

[errant cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-sure-about-that-the-rock-you-sure-gif-24604462

[errant cairn]

[errant cairn]

i can tell

[errant cairn]

believe me or not, i know

[errant cairn]

considering i can be a no life for the next 2 weeks im not sure you will have enough motivation...but i know i have less right now cause i just want to build in the sea voyager...even a sliver small enough to fit a fucking FABRICATOR would work

[karmic drum]

.... is it hard to phrase something as a question instead of a statement when you don't have empirical proof of what you're saying?

[viral saffron]

also does that mean the room itself takes 0 structural, "load" or whatever it is? if so thats very nice, makes building huge bases a lot easier

[karmic drum]

Because fuck.... people sure make it seem like it is

[karmic drum]

No. It does not take the load to 0

[errant cairn]

this doesn't affect base hull integrity in any way if thats what your asking

[viral saffron]

oh, then what does that do

[errant cairn]

he does. i gaurentee it. I can find one right now by going into the mountains in my cursed save which still somewhat works

[trail ether]

anbd i do not see how someone would expect it does

given the total lack of mention of integrity in the mesage

[errant cairn]

ima let you figure that out

[errant cairn]

i agree

voidkeep don't tell him

[viral saffron]

ooooookay then, I guess

[karmic drum]

That hurt my brain to read. And due respect. But your propensity to use commands for things that could've been solved without them... doesn't make you a reliable variable here

[karmic drum]

Wasn't gonna

[errant cairn]

bet

[viral saffron]

I'm assuming its important since literally every base piece you put down changes it

[errant cairn]

hey im lazy!

oh and in my most recent save i just used warpforward to warp between bases

oh and another few commands to debug things

[karmic drum]

And that laziness births issues which may not have appeared with effort.

As we experienced loosey a week ago

[errant cairn]

like my save being cursed for the second time with seemingly no reason? idk

also @trail ether are you sure that any commands i run cannot curse a save as bad as mine have been?

well before world gen entirely broke

[viral saffron]

literally the only other mods aside from every c2c mod is easycraft, cyclops docking and more quick slots (which may or may not be balance breaking but idc cus I dont wanna switch my tools every 5 seconds)

[trail ether]

ok I have washed my face

[errant cairn]

easycraft...idk, cyclops docking? uhm. idk y you'd use it it isnt that cool. more quick slots? valid

[trail ether]

i am now in less pain

[karmic drum]

🤦

[errant cairn]

yippee!

[trail ether]

after a brief but dramatic spike from getting soap in my eyes

[errant cairn]

bruh oof

[trail ether]

harmless but painful

[karmic drum]

Some of yall are the reason good modders abandon projects.... 😭

[trail ether]

no I am not sure

[errant cairn]

[viral saffron]

cyclops docking is mainly to charge my cyclops without needing to take out every single power cell, also to get in and out without needing to leave my base

[trail ether]

and I am reminded of that quote from...

no idea who

"...whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth"

[errant cairn]

even I'm not that lazy

[trail ether]

but I can imagine no causative mechanism

unless i added some anticheat and forgot about it

[karmic drum]

Why does that remind me of a french philosopher I read about recently...

[trail ether]

which is something I definitely have done in the past

but i find it highly unlikely

[errant cairn]

X C2C thing doesn't spawn? seems like some sort of anti-piracy (i did buy the game) or yeah anti-cheat

[trail ether]

esp given if I had this is not the likely form of the punishment

[viral saffron]

its not LAZY, really.... just saves me time, same with easy craft

[karmic drum]

Honestly. I would put extra slot mods on the blacklist

[trail ether]

i do not like "looks like a bug"

[trail ether]

nothing wrong with easycraft

[viral saffron]

thank you

[errant cairn]

i dont charge my cyclops that much to require that. nor do i honestly craft that much that often to justify easycraft. and yeah nothing wrong with it im just on the fence on getting those tbh

[trail ether]

I know I have antipiracy

but the form it takes when triggered is...not this

[errant cairn]

interesting

yeah so its weird

idk

seems like coordinatedspawns is breaking just why does it break at all?

[viral saffron]

AND easy craft still takes the same amount of energy it would've taken to craft every individual component, when I was at the start making my mobile vehicle bay, I lost power so many times lmao

[trail ether]

that is not even what easycraft is

[errant cairn]

do the cellscache save exactly what and where something is placed in the world?

[trail ether]

easycraft is "no need to manually put all the ingredients in your inventory"

[worldly valve]

Here i am thinking all that law could do is learn a lot here from this hahahahha.(not helping)

[trail ether]

it saves you nothing but some clicking

[karmic drum]

There is almost certainly a causation related to your situation. But what it is. Is unknown

[viral saffron]

yeah I know

[errant cairn]

understatement

[trail ether]

I did a bit of code checking a few days ago and it looks like coordinatedspawns has nothing to do with cellscache

though i would not take that too confidently

[errant cairn]

interesting

[trail ether]

spent <15 min

[worldly valve]

I was pretty sure of the bug thing. I can acxept my mempry waa wrong and i was mistaken.

[errant cairn]

i could decompile and look

but im not gonna

[viral saffron]

it also automatically crafts required componenets though, like if you're making something that takes titanium but all you have is scraps, it'll automatically turn the scraps into titanium and then use it in the recipe

[errant cairn]

rn

[trail ether]

that is what i did

i was going to build in an automated "re-spawn" mechanism

and to do that i lokoed to how CoordinatedSpawns works

WorldStreamerPatcher and such

[karmic drum]

Apologies. You've been kind and I didn't mean to be that harsh. But my autistic brain lashes out at anything it deems irrational 😅

[trail ether]

see it is even still open https://i.imgur.com/r1nTMqj.png

[errant cairn]

you're not wrong. Unidentified Objects do occur. idk why though

[errant cairn]

huh interesting

[karmic drum]

I've never had an unidentified object that wasn't there

Ones I can't find sure. But not one's that aren't there

[errant cairn]

also technically there is an SMLHelper version for 2.0, just breaks every mod using Nautilus

if you're not aware

[trail ether]

also holy crap i have been accumulating tabs

four games now

[errant cairn]

geez

[trail ether]

five

I spy SN, ONI, PlanetCrafter, Stationeers, and Techtonica

[karmic drum]

Also god.... DO NOT get me started on that

[errant cairn]

good god

[karmic drum]

I will put someone in a box

[errant cairn]

ima get you started on that

opinions of RotA?

TRP?

[trail ether]

I told a guy yesterday to go play "shooter megadeath xXx9000xXx" instead of C2C

[errant cairn]

BtW?

[worldly valve]

Its okay. I would encourage inquisitiveness over presumptuousnesa. But i aint no saint either...i played league back in the day😂😂

[trail ether]

because he openly said he was too unmotivated to read the PDA

[karmic drum]

We.... need to resequence the gene pool

[errant cairn]

That sounds like me!
Except I gave up FPS games a long time ago!

[errant cairn]

starboard this shit

[karmic drum]

I'm so stubborn that I won't even turn on the additional pda hints

[errant cairn]

I would 🙋‍♂️

[karmic drum]

I'm giving everyone either autism or adhd. And enough generational trauma to balance out the negative effects

[errant cairn]

[karmic drum]

I have all three of those

And am doing fine

[errant cairn]

and Reika, no this is not a battle i wish to pick right now. keep taking away nice things and one day this will be a battle i am willing to pick

[karmic drum]

You're a statistical anomaly

[errant cairn]

OH GOD voidkeep

WHERE IS YOUR SANITY

YOUR SOUL?!?!?!

[karmic drum]

You don't want to know

[karmic drum]

Consumed long ago

[errant cairn]

by the void?

[karmic drum]

I wish... that would be easy

[errant cairn]

WHA-

[karmic drum]

Again. That would be the easy

[errant cairn]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

the void needs more souls

@trail ether do you know anyone with a soul?

[karmic drum]

Let's just agree to never discuss my deep lore

Seriously. Not a joke. Don't. I scare therapists.

[errant cairn]

sure......

[errant cairn]

and im not that scarable. i laugh at the avatar of insanity

not a joke

[worldly valve]

Arent theybon by default?

[worldly valve]

I mean law, tbh i think the battle is a good idea for you. Insane learning potebtial.

I worry it would be bad for reikas mental health tho

[errant cairn]

I don't you realize the capability of Reika when she applies herself. Let alone her motivation. I just need to know if a HarmonyPatch works on legacy 😭

She has counter-threatened me many times and showed me exactly what I should and shouldn't tell her fight her over

[worldly valve]

I think reika drastically out skill sna dout knowledges law

I think law is young and wouod absprb untold levels of intel

But it would come at reika living in a less enjoyable state

[errant cairn]

drastically out skill sna dout knowledges law
I'm genuinely trying to understand by context but I can't. Could you elaborate please?

(i can english i swear)

[karmic drum]

You really don't want to test whatever mental disorders she may or may not be running off of. Cause that is a loosing battle every time

When talent works hard. You stay the F out of the way

[errant cairn]

Oh boy. No one knows me. Thats probably good

[errant cairn]

What if theres talent v potential talent? I also think a better battle to pick would be to work with Reika instead of against her

[worldly valve]

i think you are missing my ppoint

law is yung

a battle with reika

with invariably mean a shit ton of knowledge and skill gain

the best wayt o et good is to jump into the fire after all

if you wanna get good in a moba

plat with diamon friends fro 2 weeks

[errant cairn]

git gud* not get good

[worldly valve]

then the bronies are lulsy

similar concept

[errant cairn]

real

but the bronzies sometimes get better together

instead of the diminds working to get this other guy higher up

[worldly valve]

bronzies*

[karmic drum]

Get a time machine, and go ask Tesla about Edison. Learn real quick which one actually invented the light bulb

[worldly valve]

bronzies are known ro hitting diamonds with skill shots

its hilarious

"why would they fire it that way"

[errant cairn]

I already know™

[viral saffron]

I'm assuming lantern trees were nerfed? I'm getting ONE fruit every like 5 minutes it so slow

[errant cairn]

It wasn't Edison who invented the bulb

[karmic drum]

Then you know how that battle will go 😂

[karmic drum]

Most people still think he did

[errant cairn]

Yeah. I'm not most ppl

I'm a dormant no life with the potential to do whatever the fuck i apply myself to

[karmic drum]

I translation. You are 60% likely missing an adhd diagnosis

[worldly valve]

reika

the bioprocessor

you should make it quieter

[errant cairn]

some kind of mental disorder*

[worldly valve]

@trail ether

its louder than reaper roars next to one

[karmic drum]

Naw, make it louder

[worldly valve]

lololol

its only ear bleeding

[karmic drum]

I want my base to shake when I make poop juice

[worldly valve]

needs to be d bursting

[karmic drum]

I don't like the term disorder. It implies that we're lesser

[errant cairn]

Fair

[karmic drum]

When that is obviously not thr case

[errant cairn]

real

[viral saffron]

idk why I read that as "peeper roars" like 3 times lmao

[errant cairn]

LMAO

[karmic drum]

I have learned more about clinical mental health research in a week. Than most university students will in a month

[worldly valve]

Because you know what fun it

Is

[karmic drum]

I need roaring peepers now

[trail ether]

NullReferenceException: object instance not set to instance of object

[worldly valve]

But also the quiet processor is a real reccomendation

It is by fsr the loudest thing in the game

[errant cairn]

NRE THATS CRAZY

[trail ether]

yes

too many people use it as their sole food source

I saw to it that that is no longer an option

[errant cairn]

bumping for Reika to see ™

[viral saffron]

||IM JUST TRYING TO GO TO LIFEPOD 15||

[trail ether]

would you prefer "Error: key cannot be null"

[karmic drum]

https://tenor.com/view/good-clapping-sarcastic-gif-14772054

[viral saffron]

time to breed ten thousand bladder fish

[trail ether]

and if you do not get what I am getting at

https://i.imgur.com/2pBTm9l.png

[errant cairn]

Either. They're both absolutely hilarious

[trail ether]

in refefence to https://github.com/ReikaKalseki/Reika_Mods_Issues/issues/875

[worldly valve]

any thoughts on quieting the bioprocessor reika?

[karmic drum]

You have hit a progression wall. Please turn back for the next 30hrs

[errant cairn]

BRO WHAT

[viral saffron]

then why did i get the radio signal so early lmfao

[karmic drum]

I personally use a combination of occulus and EyeEye

[viral saffron]

they give water?

[karmic drum]

You ever heard of a long term motivator?

[worldly valve]

guess not lol

but it woul;d be nic lool

[viral saffron]

THIS is annoying though

[karmic drum]

The occulus are great for food. And the EyeEye are mostly water. As is referenced in their pda entry

[errant cairn]

You absolutely need to listen to it

You CANNOT ignore it

[viral saffron]

I do

[errant cairn]

Otherwise your save WILL be corrupted

[viral saffron]

also all I got from their pda entry was "90% eye" lmao

[karmic drum]

You learn to play smarter

[errant cairn]

Real

[karmic drum]

I've started coming up with solutions instead of taking dumb risks

[viral saffron]

I've done a hardcore save in vanilla so its not THAT bad

[errant cairn]

@trail ether thoughts on working together on this mod?

[viral saffron]

(I died by getting rammed by my own seamoth when I exited it though)

[karmic drum]

||like using flares to get past the infected crabsquid guarding the seamoth depthmk2||

[errant cairn]

Common

[karmic drum]

I use the mod that makes you eject out the back

[viral saffron]

HOW DO I GET RID OF THIS SHIT AROUND MY BASE

every time I reload my save, they go away, but when I go out ot explore and come back they're ALWAYS there

[karmic drum]

You don't. It's supposed to be there. It'll make sense later

For now turn off bloom

It'll stop your base from glowing

[viral saffron]

okay thats better

[worldly valve]

that's the neat part!

you dont

[trail ether]

on what mod

[karmic drum]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[viral saffron]

but I dont see how placing this shit around my base can be important, its the plankton, right? cant you get it somewhere else

[worldly valve]

ive never gottaed || toingue lillies|| ti eat it

despite all my efforts

i passive ||got enough salt with litteally 0 grinding effort||

before tongue lillies did anything

||the suit handles it too||

but not once have i gotten plankton to go away

ive tta it to...row massively

by adding more hatcges

[errant cairn]

C2C and its dependencies

[worldly valve]

but also my knowledge on how the plankton works is

several patches old

and it was in a much jankier state

[errant cairn]

Do I need to finish a play through first?

[viral saffron]

I need to leave and enter through my moonpool

[worldly valve]

reika did hard coding troubleshooting with someone

void is implying they solved something

part of my problem is i actually despise base building

like i find it to be the worst thing i can do with my time in any game ever

i would rather

'do so many unfun activities

than build a scanner room

but its like that for every game

my frsat playthrough of subnautica i tried to exclusively use floating lockers

subnautica has superb exploration though

so you know, makes all the garbage base bulding worth it. but its a means to an end and i want to do as little as possible

[viral saffron]

I love base building

[worldly valve]

i didnt even know there were room types as my bases are usually a scanning room(which is also the storage unit as scanning rooms are amazing for storage)

[trail ether]

I am not interested in making this a team project

you want to suggest ideas or feedback go for it

but I am the sole creative control

[errant cairn]

Bet

[worldly valve]

people keep saying the laser cutter on auora is usefl and i think they much be playing hard mode

but inow have been thinkuing

"maybe they actually run out of scrap on te map"

where as i cannot fathom a world where i would laser cut the aurora when there i essentialy limitless scrap in subnautica

[karmic drum]

No. Making trips the boat is just more convenient than darting around looking for scrap

It also makes me feel like I get more out of the upgrade I searched for and earned

[worldly valve]

listening to lairians playthrough atm, they have 450% productivity in their acu

they dont know what for but

least they got it right

[worldly valve]

is it actually faster than a scan room + azure seaglide tho?

i often find myself measuring time

(not always)

[karmic drum]

I get that with the feeder. Give or take an extra 100% for the biome boost, and I haven't even tried introducing predators or balancing plant quantities yet

[karmic drum]

I don't measure time. I manage mental energy extered by an activity. And zipping around to scanner blips feels more tedious then just going to the ship. Plus I can put a storage base right next to the ship. Which is.. you gussed it.. constructed from 99% titanium

[errant cairn]

Time to become an ACTUAL PR shark. Making suggestions or bug fixes as I play

[karmic drum]

I can mine as much as I want in a single sitting

[worldly valve]

my mind is wired a bit differently

[karmic drum]

And just drive out to pickup ingots at mass whenever I run out

[worldly valve]

see to me, the laser cutter sounds like how you describe the zip around

but as you say you are a abse builder

[trail ether]

feel free though note I do not merge PRs for a few reasons, though i can and will implement them "in spirit" if they are actually good

[karmic drum]

As long you're respectful and constructive. I don't see why not

[worldly valve]

im a "sword is obviously the only way to play hollow knight. those other stuff, the spells, thats for baaaadiiiiiiiiiies" broen logic

"real gamers use the knife to fights reapers one on one, if you cant do that, why do you even subnautica"

thats more younger self thoughts but, my playstyle is he same

hence why i just figured out how to use decoys to get to || deep void or whatever it is|| when it was more do able

bewcause tbh...that was so much fucki fun.

[karmic drum]

To me that outlook is absolutely abhorent

[karmic drum]

That's still doable. I did it the other day

[trail ether]

you say to someone who made that a horrendous slog that punishes you if you succeed

[trail ether]

because of this

[trail ether]

and if my punishment is insufficiently harsh to demotivate you I will just make it worse

[pine ginkgo]

do you have any sort of ideas board or is that mostly this discussion

?

[trail ether]

both

i do but it is not a public thing

[worldly valve]

i mean i never killed any reaprs, i was more using a irect subnautica reference as opposed to hollow knight

[trail ether]

this is the public one

[worldly valve]

its enjoyable in games to tfigure out how to proceed with minimal tools

[karmic drum]

The point being. That if you are not motivated to come up with solutions beyond brute force... you'll just motivate her to make sure you do

[worldly valve]

walls that are design to be impossible are an absolute joy to cheese by

[trail ether]

that is the top....10% of it

[worldly valve]

oh Reika

can i give you feeback from the Lairian plauythrough?>

[pine ginkgo]

ok Reika, what if you add a very large leviathan and proceed to gatekeep the mod for a very long time

[worldly valve]

it's related to the visual eye feedback

the mushroom forest in its current form harms certain cisual discorders

Lairian was affected quite heavily

at l;east notreable

ill ask them for the direct feedback

[karmic drum]

So... those pillars actually were able to reinforce a base. They just didn't say as much on the UI

[viral saffron]

what kind of idiot grows a tiger plant

[trail ether]

some more

[trail ether]

the same idiot who waves flares around fuel lines

[pine ginkgo]

northeast mountains would be a cool one

[viral saffron]

lmao

[trail ether]

yes

[trail ether]

@unreal flame

[worldly valve]

ill get the visual one directly from them

[trail ether]

???

[worldly valve]

but they are the ones that were noting bioprocessor sound being disproportionally high

the mushroom forest

gimma a bit im rememebring pool

[trail ether]

yes that part was clear

[worldly valve]

poorly

[pine ginkgo]

lol Im not trying to drag anyone under, I just find the popularity of leviathan mods and "scary" mods to be pretty funny

[karmic drum]

I think he means to imply the plankton that fall off them are in some way an epilepsy concern

[trail ether]

i am not a doctor but i really do not see how

epilepsy concerns regard flashing lights

not "rain of sparkles"

otherwise you could have a seizure salting your food

[karmic drum]

I'm not sure eirher. I was just translating

😅

[trail ether]

though if your salt glows in the dark stop buying groceries at spent nuclear fuel storage sites

[pine ginkgo]

Not inherently a suggestion but maybe a use for urananite in the earlier game since its accessible very early on, but not usable until far far later

I still havent even used it

[worldly valve]

astigmatism+ eyes off degree, experiencing extremely high visual light intensity contrast. essentially affects the mind and causes a "shut down" sparkles being as bright as they are, with the darkness being such contrast, combined with the spiral and random motion of the mushrooms, essentially makes it blinding

not epilepsy

[karmic drum]

Ok. There's enough people playing the mod. And a sufficient lack of reports

For it to not be a concern

[worldly valve]

i disageree there

the stream has morinfo\

https://www.twitch.tv/lairian

i got him talking about it

[unreal flame]

ouch

[trail ether]

i have been thinking about adding more uses for it but i am nervous given that it is both limited and used in theoretically unlimited quantities for power

mostly my solution has been to make nuclear power more necessary

[trail ether]

???

I have astigmatism too

though granted not severe

[worldly valve]

theres is

they are expalining i in detail in stream

[trail ether]

no i am not going to go find my prescription

[worldly valve]

i was relaying the simplle way