SeaToSea

[warm remnant]

So my plan was to bring a cyclops with prawn to mountains corridor, then speedrun with seamoth to inactive lava zone hole to tow a kyanite to prawn and drill it to get prawn suit upgrade.

So I used only one heatsink

And I hate that seamoth tow module loves to grab random shit along the way slowing your seamoth to crawl.

[barren oar]

i dont think extra stuff slows it down though

its either you're carrying something or you're not that makes the difference

[warm remnant]

Strange, I noticed that if it carries too much it slows.

[barren oar]

hm yeah i dont think that works

i mean it builds up to 200 degrees basically instantly

wait i think i tested in the active lava zone

[warm remnant]

I think the best thing to do is just dont care about seamoth and use prawn instead

[barren oar]

well mk4 depth module does go down to 1.3km so you'll need to bring it down there eventually so yeah how the fuck do you combat that

cant just bring an inventory full of heatsinks

you'd still need to replace them at which point you're melting instead

[barren oar]

yeah maybe but there's some reason why it can go down that low

[warm remnant]

I used this depth upgrade to get kyanite and after that seamoth was chilling in my base

[barren oar]

and not just 1km or something

c2c is very much not accidental in its design

there's no way it was a coin flip or similar that you should be able to reach the active lava zone in the moth

at least i hope it wasnt and im not just reading too much into it

yeah ill do the same thing ig but im definitely missing something in the equation

just cant tell what

of course this also implies ||i find how to make a bucket to obtain obsidian|| but ill figure that out in due time i'm sure

wait could it be

[warm remnant]

Are you exploring from cove tree side?

[barren oar]

for the time being im exploring in creative so i dont get blindsided by 13 things and have to save scum for an hour in order to progress

that said, i'm well aware i've got to go through there since in my last run i tried going through the hole :) and got immediately decimated by the heat :)

[warm remnant]

I recommend you to explore from cove tree side

When you will be mortal

[barren oar]

yep i somehow managed back then to gather || iridium || by suicide runs to scan them and then use scanner room

but obviously that isn't going to work any longer

i know of the unharvestable objects in the tree's local area, although i haven't quite figured out how to properly exploit them either

cant trust the pda after saying ||rock crushing may result in a chemical reaction, somehow transforming motherfucking table salt into tungsten||

im sure ill be able to figure it out after trying everything at my disposal though

||stasis rifle makes it come off there we go progress||

well im nearly 90% sure this isnt the way to do it considering its underside is culled lol

[warm remnant]

I can see that I maybe skipped a part with bringing seamoth to inactive lava zone by towing kyanite deposit to prawn, because ||in lava castle there is hand collectible kyanite|| and I think this is the intended way of getting first kyanite but Im not sure.

[barren oar]

well i mean you had a problem and found a solution with your given toolset lol

if it really wasnt meant to be, drillable kyanite wouldve been untowable like the rock crusher refuses to eat it

[warm remnant]

Well It despawned when I left it lying around so I needed to be near it all the time.

[barren oar]

oh thats the same thing that happened with || brine corals || in my attempts to rock crush them

said attempts ended poorly because all the samples i tried were bugged and weren't initialised properly as per c2c standards, but i digress

i think its just the module is bugged somehow

doesnt do something that the propulsion cannon does to save the object's new position & detached state

just a guess

[warm remnant]

I was lucky to not get this problem with ||brine coral||

[barren oar]

interestingly though, in my 2 year old save i do have || obsidian || i think (yet unsure and cant check right now), and i dont remember jack shit about ||this weird new "floater" type|| so it's obtained somehow else probably

[warm remnant]

I think you will find it fast when in inactive lava zone

[barren oar]

highly possible it was just changed though, 2y is a long time & c2c is no stranger to such changes (||tungsten, mk1 depth module, others probably i havent caught||)

also entirely possible i just cheated them in lol

yeah that was going to be my next best guess either way

it'd be the only unexplored place as per exploration findings (havent yet completed lost river but im assuming im close to doing that anyway) so not much else to explore either

exploration findings is goated as usual

thank you reika for the pda pages 🙏

i genuienly do not believe this mod would be possible without them

theres just so many things to know thateven if you had 100% knowledge of everything in vanilla subnautica, i don't think you could find everything c2c adds without knowing what biomes you no longer need to explore

[warm remnant]

I think that without it first playthrough would take an absurd amount of time

Hell even with it my second playthrough taken ~115 hours

[barren oar]

yeah true later playthroughs would be helped by unremovable knowledge

[warm remnant]

I think in my first save my time is ~100 hours and I was about to firstly explore river so previous knowledge is the king

[lean minnow]

does more quick slots run fine with c2c

[gusty urchin]

yes

[lean minnow]

Would yall recommend playing in hardmode or nah

[warm remnant]

Dont do it

I think its not worth it for first playthrough at least

[lean minnow]

Heard

[worldly valve]

How did you habe prawn before lava?

[jade osprey]

What's stopping you ?

[jade osprey]

I genuinely believe this mod would not be possible without this channel 🙏

[worldly valve]

Prawn suit scans i guess

I thought it needed a resource from lava zone as well

But ive only ever gottwn the prawn suit from the scans inside aurora in the prawn room

[jade osprey]

Don't you have a reinforced dive suit ?

[worldly valve]

Which can only get tgere after makinf reinforcr suit

Doesnt reinforcr suit requite something from lava zone?

[jade osprey]

No ?

[worldly valve]

I thought it needed irridium or something

[jade osprey]

This path is pretty straightforward imo

[worldly valve]

I just dont recall ingredients for reinforced suit

Becaue i remember pretty clearly thinking the path is you are meant to go in very deep to lava zone with seamoth to grab the first couple blue shits

Whats recipe for hardsuit

[jade osprey]

I think it's || basically abyssoclase || somthing somthing

It's nothing of the kind you thinkingh of

[worldly valve]

I guess i thought heat sealed fabric was later

In that case clear progression intent is to go for a swim

Could just be a care open ended progression form reika too

With 3 or 4 intended paths

[jade osprey]

Hell nah

You'd be lucky to find one

[worldly valve]

?

I though5 you were guys were saying its not really an issue

Since you can get the suit, theres at leats 2 ways to get kyanite

[jade osprey]

Well at that point it's a free for all

I believe

My methods differ to say the least

I guess it's part of the fun

You'll love it

[worldly valve]

Hum

Maybe a threat im unaware of in lava zone

[warm remnant]

Iridium is for seamoth sealant

[silk pond]

just found an unlimited battery exploit using the propulsion cannon conversion in the mod station

[jade osprey]

Lol I think it was just mentioned 3 hours ago or so

[coral dagger]

most of my playthrough was before they were added... that was tough

[barren oar]

i think it did

not too sure though

before it got replaced by ||tung||

at least, i vaguely remember the lava zone ore in the recipe

[lean minnow]

yo waht is that meteor that comes crashing down

[warm remnant]

Try to track where it lands and find out.

And do it as fast as possible when it lands.

[barren oar]

dont be shy to save-scum if need be, because its such a shit mechanic

[worldly valve]

interestingly ernough, you dont need to be close enouh to hear the "plop" to find it

if you are on surface of the water

and can keep your ;line and jgo just a bit down while looking up

[barren oar]

as if keeping the line is easy lol

don't forget to open and close pda to reset pitch/vertical camera angle to 0

so you can go forwards without accidentally surfacing & losing a lot of time bc seaglide doesnt work above water

i love how rapidly flashing the reaper makes the perimeter defense system obsolete

its the only thing you'd use it for & now you just need to spam right click to get out after 15- damage

but its fair with how many extra upgrades c2c/dependencies add

[jade osprey]

Ahh yes spam right click to flash at the reaper who is notoriously blind to get free

[barren oar]

maybe its the sound lol

the seamoth cant be so insulated that no sound escapes, especially considering ||the lost river power drain||

wait where does it say its blind

[jade osprey]

Isn't it ?

I thought at its entry

[barren oar]

unless c2c changed its entry no not really

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Reaper_Leviathan

havent scanned one yet bc thats a pain in the ass

doing it when i need to complete the pokedex

[jade osprey]

Damn

I guess it's implied

Well maybe not then

[barren oar]

echolocation/sonar doesnt mean it has to be blind

[jade osprey]

Yeah maybe

[barren oar]

maybe it just senses better at long distances using its roar with its eyes being for closer objects and/or more sensitive

both of which would make it less likely to continue attacking if it was fucking flashed by a high beam

actually that does make me wonder if the light module makes it lose interest quicker lol

[jade osprey]

I think it was just a clickbaity youtube title feed

[barren oar]

surely if little light flash = leaving alone, then big light flash = more leaving alone

[jade osprey]

I'm gonna be honest I don't think I'm completing the pokedex

[barren oar]

||isnt it required lol||

[jade osprey]

I hope not

[barren oar]

also could ||breathing liquid|| be made cheaper by way of lowering costs of ||membraine tree & spotted dockleaf||

not that they're expensive just that they take so much space

i picked those two since if you've got a farm of them then getting two is as easy as getting one lol

[jade osprey]

Big if true

[barren oar]

thats 30 slots all by itself

so you probably need to put everything you have into storage

well this is including the ||3x de-extinction jelly spinner||, assumedly that's empty slots if not using the mod

[jade osprey]

I'm not sure if there's a setting in the easycraft to grab them for the recipe from the growbeds

I just use inbase items only

[barren oar]

i'd assume not since they aren't fruit but seeds

[jade osprey]

Could be even easier

[barren oar]

it would probably work if using the autocrafter though

i'd assume

er. not autocrafter

autoharvester

well i guess it doesnt require easycraft so its whatever

[jade osprey]

bro fuck my ass my water is gone

I grabbed the ||laser cutter firmware override|| and then this

and apparently it didn't go back to normal after a reload

am I actually going to play subspacika for the rest of the game

the water works it's just not visible anymore

[barren oar]

lol??

f3, f8, do something at the water volume setting
https://www.reddit.com/r/subnautica/comments/84vnjc/comment/dvsr2mz/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[jade osprey]

you fixed it brother man thank you

indeed the water and surface boxes were ticked this time

[barren oar]

gg

[jade osprey]

and I guess I can announce that all of my ||brine coral|| is officially decorative

the funny thing is that I was able to get 3 whole deposits

but not anymore I can't

[barren oar]

lol expected

[barren oar]

hey so wtf is up with ||glass corals|| and why do their scan progress keep resetting

epic game design i guess its just because there's several scannable spots in there

idk why the scanner monitor is tweaking out like that either i dont have performancebooster or anything

wow this shit sucks to scan

constant 20 fps doesnt help much either

nice smooth 40 the moment i look up

this is fucking miserable how are you supposed to find the correct order and pattern...

it reached 90 something percent and reset

ok i scanned all 17 pieces what now

told me absolutely nothing

oh ||composite glass|| so thats how you unlock it

[jade osprey]

yeaaaah I wrote about this thing as a spoiler here to reika just in case

it's another generator problem

but for some reason it keeps spawning the thing over and over instead of you know not spawning at all which could explain why the progress resets constantly and the fps issue

[barren oar]

oh my god there's so many resource deposits

[jade osprey]

well at least it's not gamebraking as the other one

[barren oar]

i fear for my frames

[jade osprey]

yeaaah my game gradually reduced to 0 fps once I tried to go deeper towards them

and then boom

so might not want to try it

||but I assume there's nothing particularly useful other than more of these pieces which you know you can just scan from a single one||

btw you one lucky individual I don't think I'm getting more than 5 fps at best

perhaps your cpu handles it much better

[barren oar]

i think i just havent been here for as long lol

because its hovering 10 now

[jade osprey]

nuh uh as soon as I saw them it dropped to 5 no arguing with them about it

[barren oar]

oh

[jade osprey]

but at least you can just turn away and go live your life like nothing happened

[barren oar]

< : (

[jade osprey]

nah bro your vid is unspoilerable

can't hide it no more

[barren oar]

huh

fuck you mean

[jade osprey]

it's not marked as spoiler ?

[barren oar]

????

[jade osprey]

damn I guess I'm a filthy liar now

[barren oar]

welcome to the club

oh fuck im experiencing the power transmitters not connecting too

[jade osprey]

welcome to the club

[barren oar]

i guess im to bring like 3 ingots worth of titanium so i can connect the base down to the thermal

at least 888m to like 1000 isnt that bad

maybe 50 connectors?

[jade osprey]

are you trying to connect a moonpool to a thermal ?

[barren oar]

yes

moonpool and platform to be more precise

[jade osprey]

are you using a base piece inbetween ?

[barren oar]

platform is closer so it should connect to it

[jade osprey]

well then that's weird

it definitely should without any transmitters

[barren oar]

thermals have a like 3cm connection range my guy

100m > 3cm

oh i should play around a bit in creative to see how much i need to bring

[jade osprey]

well bases have like 20 m margin for power inbetween

[barren oar]

most definitely enough to where mats for a fabricator would be worth

[jade osprey]

you can just build a thermal on top of the platform and then a moonpool close to it

[barren oar]

yeah but lost river is ice cold

lava zone isnt

[jade osprey]

so whats the issue

[barren oar]

thermals would end up leeching power at that temp

it doesnt connect without a transmitter

wym

at least not right now before i build a few compartments

[jade osprey]

are you trying to bridge lava zone thermal to a lost river base ?

[barren oar]

yuh

cove tree base to be more precise

its right on the edge so thermal will be active anyway

[jade osprey]

there's a hot spot right by the tree ?

[barren oar]

it doesnt connect skull

[barren oar]

currently in creative to test

i guess it just had to be reconstructed

ah fuck i also have to bring stuff for reinforcement bc -15 base hull is shit with platforms

[jade osprey]

lol

peak design fr

why not just build it inside the lava zone ?

[barren oar]

seamoth depth

ill do that when i get there

[jade osprey]

damn

[barren oar]

bc i gotta figure out how to get ||obsidian without combining buckets with water & lava||

[jade osprey]

you're doing a lot to bring your seamoth there that doesn't exactly do much except maybe some storage

[barren oar]

saving breathing fluid

[jade osprey]

well you're the boss

your world your rules

[barren oar]

yeah playing as god intended

i love how sometimes buildables just get turned upside down

[jade osprey]

now turn a moonpool

[barren oar]

unfortunately. skill issue

[lean minnow]

I did try and got like behind the aurora and eaten by a reaper but I had saved shortly before it came crashing down. Thank god for this azurite battery it is such a nice addition

[barren oar]

100% its the goat

[lean minnow]

Definitely reassured me this is the mod ive been looking for

is the mod still planned to be updated for living large 2.0?

[barren oar]

i believe it's planned to once nautilus is no longer in beta

whenever that may be, is another question

[jade osprey]

Bro I feel kinda stupid because as soon as I got an azurite battery I did put it in my seamoth but I kinda didn't know about the speed boost and only noticed it somewhat randomly after 10-20 hours or so

I guess I'm completely zoned out when playing this game

I just used it for the charge lol

And sometimes interchangeably with regular ones when it was charging

[barren oar]

i think it doesnt trigger if below 200m or so, so if you linger more at higher depths you wouldn't really notice it

lower depths? higher depths? whichever is correct

holy fucking shit are this many materials to spawn intended lol

post-lost river ^ btw

at least im assuming post

[jade osprey]

Babe wake up a new get rich quick exploit just dropped

[barren oar]

actually like just wall in one of these, set up an item collector, and go wild

[jade osprey]

Literally just woke up

I'm the babe

[barren oar]

lol

[jade osprey]

Check your log do you have any generator problem ? You seem to be having it good

[barren oar]

not much that i can see right off the bat

[barren oar]

for fuck's sake i spent the last half hour trying to set up a base ||using item collectors that grab the obsidian|| but it's... not collectable

it can collect other materials just fine, just not that one

annoying

i guess a scanner room is the only way to approach this then

[jade osprey]

lmaooo bro

I also thought about the item collector when you mentioned it for the other thing today

I kinda just banged my head against a wall with this one but thought it could be really smart

[barren oar]

what'd you do

since i'm 100% certain anything else than a scanner room and nearly killing myself from the constant heat that somehow melts you in like 10 seconds is going to be significantly smarter

[jade osprey]

bro you gonna fucking cry

[barren oar]

uh oh

[jade osprey]

this is my outpost for the thingy

||I just wait for it to spit and quickly go for it||

[barren oar]

oh so the same thing

yeah but consider that it's only a chance lol

for it to spawn

so a scanner to see them when they appear is better in that regard

less damage

[jade osprey]

my scanner room only detected the ones that fell through the floor ngl

[barren oar]

ass

[jade osprey]

but the fresh ones are 100% legit per my experience

I love this outpost so much it's just so funny to me

and I have a clip of me forgetting about oxygen and then literally the definition by the skin of my teeth making it to the other one

the screen went black for 3 seconds probably

but I made it

[barren oar]

yeah you have like 8s of leeway

or so

its never as close as it looks like

well 8s from when it starts blacking out i think

about 4 after

[jade osprey]

I think you don't have much after the black out

I was just spamming left click hoping

[barren oar]

yeah 4s thats chill "about 4 seconds to get to an air source before the screen completely fades out, and another 4 before they die" https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Oxygen

[jade osprey]

I rememeber the same thing happened in my previous playthrough but I actually saw the hatch animation and died at the same time

[jade osprey]

actually now that I think about it could you use ||the propulsion cannon to safely pull the pieces without burning your ass too much||

[barren oar]

||you can pull them yes, although i've done that a few times and i've got no obsidian spawns||

so im either just incredibly unlucky or that's hardpatched

[jade osprey]

||the thingy spawns at the exact moment it hits the ground no ?||

[barren oar]

has a chance to

from what ive seen

[jade osprey]

100%

from what I've seen

[barren oar]

absolutely not 100%

at least 5 of them didnt spawn

in my previous lives trying to work this out

[jade osprey]

maybe it does fall through though

[jade osprey]

the actual outer wilds dlc

[barren oar]

i'd assume it doesn't fall through the floor when it just "spawned" at a wall

nvm i forgot scanner rooms are shit

mine health after 6 and you're supposed to get 21 of these?

this mod doesnt require you to go on suicide missions

[jade osprey]

yeah as I was saying this mod is a testament to your medkit production capabilities

apparently it was a very wise move investing in a second fabricator a long time ago

[barren oar]

really thats a bit more than 150 damage it really isnt that bad

except the constant stuttering makes it shit

seems that if you keep your instance open for more than like half an hour it becomes unplayable

or if you save in your base instead of in a vehicle

or if you look in the wrong direction

or if you open your pda the wrong way

or if you open the pause menu the wrong way

[jade osprey]

it's the weight of all the crimes you committed throughout your hundreds of days here

pretty much the save's personality it this point

you feel it all the time

[barren oar]

yep lol

i died from heat when the ||extreme heat detected|| prompt was not present

perhaps residual heat mechanic

fortunately i only lost like 3 items

[jade osprey]

perhaps old age

succumbed to the infection or sometihng

[barren oar]

true...

guy just stopped giving a fuck

i am one off

[jade osprey]

rip in piss

[barren oar]

yeah whatever i cant collect it dying in five seconds

oh well the prawn is useless for the next 20 hours anyway because my next problem is crafting ||30 heatsinks||

[jade osprey]

damn

you only a fiw miracles away

dream luck some might say

[barren oar]

oh so its even more hours and items i take it

fucking hell

really wish it wouldnt melt the seamoth in the first 20 seconds

thats what happened during my testing anyway

[jade osprey]

I could tell you a secret

[barren oar]

cant dive down far enough yet to test on survivla

nah ill just cope

appreciate the offer though

i know roughly what i need to do to never worry about heat anyway

[jade osprey]

fair

[warm remnant]

When I saw that medkits are heavily nerfed I made a whopping 10 medkit fabricators.

[barren oar]

oh my god || composite glass || requires 5 quartz per .

kinda surprised cyclops doesnt use it

[jade osprey]

fair

[barren oar]

it'd be the perfect place to require 20 of them

[warm remnant]

Wait til you see neptune rocket recipes)

[barren oar]

i choose not to think about things that i'll reach in a month's time

[jade osprey]

btw did you finish yours already ?

[warm remnant]

Yes

[barren oar]

and that will probably be completely changed by the time i get to doing, plus additional progression changes that make the current save unplayable

[jade osprey]

are you the first human alive to do so ?

except reika

[warm remnant]

It cost me my last pieces of sanity but I did it.

[warm remnant]

I think there was another person that finished it

[jade osprey]

you rn

[warm remnant]

or nearly finished

[jade osprey]

I'm gonna have a question for you soon I feel like

but it'll wait

[jade osprey]

todays version or some time ago ?

and btw what are you clocking at

[warm remnant]

Todays version

[warm remnant]

~115 hours

[jade osprey]

me when I play elden ring or something

[warm remnant]

Not counting first playthrough before update

And not counting hours of figuring out tungsten

[jade osprey]

same bro

I probably already have 5-10 hours on creative

[barren oar]

tungsten actually worst part of current progression

mainly because main method is broken

[jade osprey]

mainly because my method isn't implemented

by humble opinino

[warm remnant]

Try using my method with towing kyanite deposit to mountains corridor

It cost me 1 heatsink

[barren oar]

yeah ive taken a look at the code and it just doesnt do what it should lol

because the || GrownPlant || component isnt present on any of the... || grown tonguelily plants ||

so code sees it doesnt exist and nopes out before doing anything else, as it has to use the component later

[jade osprey]

there really is a lot of options to go about your playthroguh after the ||tungsten || I feel like

[barren oar]

are there

because its still the same linear progression

subnautica is not a game where you can have meaningful horizontal progression except for modding in a completely custom skill tree or somesuch

[jade osprey]

well in the main game you can skip every singel vehicle option and make it

[barren oar]

with glitches

[jade osprey]

that's pretty nonlinear to me

[barren oar]

and i dont doubt you cant make it with just a seamoth with glitches in c2c either

[jade osprey]

wym ?

about the main game

I think every singe material is hand collectible there no ?

[barren oar]

mobile vehicle bay terrain clip or super seaglide

glitches you can use to skip vehicles

c2c adds more depth to the... depth effect mechanic, so you still need to progress quite a bit

[jade osprey]

aren't they just for time skips ?

[barren oar]

i think moving 2x as fast and not needing to deal with any cave systems makes it much faster to complete

reach sea emp -> hatch egg -> get cured -> stop gun -> build rocket

but you wont be managing without any vehicles and without glitches in vanilla either

[jade osprey]

I'm no expert but I'm fairly sure you can do without vehicles and glitches if you want to it vanilla

[barren oar]

actually

yeah i was just salty about the c2c grind yep its definitely possible

the moment you reach the lava zone its just a victory lap of thermals and corridors with hatches

[barren oar]

oh my GOD why does c2c crash half the time two minutes into loading the save

[cyan ivy]

Does anyone know where I can find the microfilter blueprint? I cannot for the life of me figure it out at the moment and it is blocking essentially all progression

[barren oar]

maybe you should consider getting ahold of an alien key first

scanner rooms are your friend in this mod

[cyan ivy]

Gotcha, that makes sense. If I'm not mistaken, I'll need the ||bioprocessor|| to get that first, right?

[barren oar]

hmm not in this instance

[barren oar]

okay yeah quartz really isnt that bad in retrospect

deposits aplenty

[cyan ivy]

Okay, I got the blueprint for the key (assuming you mean the purple tablet?) and now the only thing I can think of for the chemical is ||lumen shroom oil|| that I neglected to pick up on my last visit. Let me go try that out

[barren oar]

wait why does it require both enameled and quartz

surely it can take the quartz from the enameled

[barren oar]

you have all the materials to craft it?

actually saying any more would go into blatant spoiler territory nvm

[barren oar]

enameled being 1/4 a glass per is so nice btw

wait

yeah 1/4 i can do basic arithmetic after all

[cyan ivy]

I just didnt know how to get the luminescent chemical sample, re-read the required materials, and then figured I can go on a quest for those materials and an ion cube

[barren oar]

yep good luck

[cyan ivy]

Alright I managed to find the ion cube, but apparently the lumen shroom oil was in fact not how to unlock the luminescent chemical sample, so I'm a bit lost there

[jade osprey]

you mean the ||purple bottle|| ?

[cyan ivy]

Yeah, I'm pretty much stumped on how to get it

[jade osprey]

you do know about it but don't have the recipe ?

damn now I'm stumped

[cyan ivy]

Yeah I have the recipe for the tablet itself but I have no clue how to get the ||bottle|| part of it, no blueprint or recipe found so far

I figured it might be the ||lumenshroom oil|| but that wasnt it apparently

[worldly valve]

Wait

Are you guys dying in 10 seconds

With the hardsuit?

[jade osprey]

Damn I'm completely smoking dicks I feel like the recipe came to me in a dream

[worldly valve]

Just keep looking at purple shit

[jade osprey]

Where

[worldly valve]

I thought we determined could build the hardsuit pre lava

[jade osprey]

Oh you mean the story here

Well we can make it 2

Without one

[worldly valve]

I just want confused as to why choose suffering if you can negate heat on person already

[jade osprey]

With what

You have heatsinks for yo ass ?

Well you kinda do

[worldly valve]

I habe the name wrong

Reinforced dive suit

So you only live about 10 seconds with the suit?

Nutters

[jade osprey]

And it's 5 times longer than without !!!!

[worldly valve]

Damn

@trail ether is that the intended time frame?

[jade osprey]

Well I think it's said explicitly in the mod description that the area is heavily vehicle oriented

[worldly valve]

I know, just 10 seconds is rough

[jade osprey]

Bro it's not exactly 10

[worldly valve]

Need that to go in to get the seamoths heatsink shit

[jade osprey]

It's not as bad as it sounds

[worldly valve]

I eas readin 10 seconds in chat and took it pretty literal

[worldly valve]

So you managed to get tonguelillies to actually work

[jade osprey]

They don't

But there is an amazing other way if you haven't seen

[cyan ivy]

I don't know why I'm finding this recipe so brutal to discover it feels like I've scanned every purple or glowy thing I can with the depths I can reach

[worldly valve]

I know the other way

But i recall discussions with him befoee

[worldly valve]

Have you stabbed it all too?

Missing plants in flora log?

[cyan ivy]

Not all of it, I'll get on that and see if it turns my luck around

[worldly valve]

Stabby stabby

If it has a seed

It needs a stab

Knife knife

Blue blue

[cyan ivy]

Okay I'm missing a whopping 6 plants in the flora log, which I can assume is because I only have 200 meters of depth for my seamoth and the capacity of my lungs to get to biomes and areas. I've collected tonguelily samples, pyropod pitcher samples, alkali vines, koosh bulb samples, sea crown, ||lumenshroom oil||, membrain tree seeds, and still nothing

This is definitely seeming strange and I am at a loss for what else to try to get this blueprint frankly

[warm remnant]

No I just played salt roulette.

[worldly valve]

Oh

Its just like a collection of all the purple stuff

I got it rather early i dont know the unlock req🙃

[warm remnant]

Isnt it unlocks after collecting ||jellyshroom seed||?

[cyan ivy]

it sure does

thanks!

[barren oar]

no i was just mad salty and exagerated

i think its closer to 30-40

you can almost outpace it with a normal medkit if that helps any

unsure if natural regen was a significant contributing factor

[barren oar]

if only it were that simple

unfortunately, 700+ degrees is a bit too much even for the sci fi alterratech we have access to

i dont remember what unit i think celsius

[barren oar]

wait that's wrong too

thatd be like 3 damage a second

a bit faster than 1 damage per second... so 70? 80?

im going off what i can remember but its really not bad, just annoying, because the one thing item collectors would be good for (and hinted at, saying theyre heat resistant), they cant actually do

[worldly valve]

Ahhh

Sounds like reika wants you to use a few of the

Good medkits

They would be worth making for that

Nuch like how enzyme 42 is super helpful in the river

(Tho enzyme 42 is clearly more useful as only takes 1 slot each and double life time down there on each outing))

[barren oar]

but you carry half of them and theyre shit

not worth

you can wait 5s between going in and out again for the medkit to give you the 40 hp it does or however much it heals

either way im basically done with the grind unless the rocket uses like 741 of them or something

[barren oar]

oh so thats how you're supposed to be guided to it

i got it when i grabbed the maida log that i'd missed in the pre-early game skull emoji

[barren oar]

surely i've overprepared for the lava castle

surely i wont need a second ||red tablet|| or something stupid like that

society if anti warper technology existed

i get booted out 5 times going through the bkelp trenches

new record! 6 this time

seven

oh my god this useless piece of junk vehicle heats up so fast

barely like a minute in and its already down 5% damage

it just fucking went up 300 degrees in an instant and got destroyed moments after

how the fuck was i supposed to know going down 20m was going to make the zone uninhabitable

sure the fog changed color but that wasnt nearly enough time to react

oh. you die nearly instantly nearby the alien base

you do not, in fact, have time to build a moonpool

is the intended solution really the strategy mentioned earlier in the channel

maybe i shouldve made two more heatsinks

heck i think this is the place where you actually just cant live more than 10s lol

on the bright side any time i restart the game its back to being smooth for the first 10 minutes

oh shit i think hugging the ceiling is the strat

nvm lol

wow this is actually awful

cuts way too close leading me to believe that dying several times just to set up a base is not, in fact, the solution

i guess its time to make the prawn and progression skip then lol

also idk how thats possible with just 1 heatsink its 2 at a minimum

the closest deposit i found was at the lava castle

probably 3 because you're going to be cutting it incredibly close with just 2

oh just looked at the moth recipe again yep this shit dirt cheap no wonder it overheats when the player dont

yeah you have no chance getting the ||stray kyanite in the lava castle|| you just melt way too quickly

i guess the prawn is the intended method then

[jade osprey]

I'm pretty sure the|| heatsinks are actually for the castle itself since the temp is rising 2.5 times or something and you're supposed to just do a bit of repairing in between when the temperature takes like 1-2 hp/s||

||and so I assume you collect the kyanite by hand in the castle using big boy medkits to get out of your seamoth while its literally chilling ||

well the towing method actually doesn't seem that bad compared to this but I guess they're all a bit janky lol

I'm actually wondering how much more resources do you need for the game compared to original

I wouldn't be much surprised if it's something around 100x

we need an item counting mod 🗣️ 🔥

along with the clocking time would make for a funny leaderboard

[barren oar]

||yeah seamoth temp rises to like 600 in 5 seconds its insane||

[jade osprey]

gotta go fast

yeah I think this area is heavily designed around you knowing what you're doing though

no time to admire the vistas really

or get lost

[barren oar]

yeah know the exact coordinates of the lone 3 ores found deep within

[jade osprey]

what can I say

don't make me use the picture again

I just realised you're officially blueless

lol

[jade osprey]

shout out to my character for apparently getting radiation poisoning after drilling a uraninite deposit that follows me everywhere and I can't even save the game

absolute cinema solution incoming I was able to save my game only wearing complete radiation set and after a reload all went back to normal

I new the set would come in handy that's why I kept it like 65 hours ago

[barren oar]

lool i knew they gave off rads but didnt know it would keep

unless bugge

lol

[jade osprey]

I didn't have the prompt while drilling but then it appeared when the deposit was done and I got out

well almost couldn't recover from the trauma

ever since

[barren oar]

maybe this is finally the only real use of the item collector?

[jade osprey]

the elusive purpose of the item collector thingy

personally mine collects dust in the drawer

looks good to me

[barren oar]

trueee

[jade osprey]

nah it kinda collected it my backpack if you know what I mean

[barren oar]

going to be completely honest chief i have zero clue what you're on about

[jade osprey]

didn't wanna flex my prawny boy but here we are

[barren oar]

is... this much storage on a prawn normal

why is default 8x8

ill disable all mods besides c2c no way this is a c2c addition

well c2c and dependencies

current modlist lets see what happens now

and will try on a new save just in case

brand new save with as little mods as possible still has the 8x8 what the shit is this

[jade osprey]

bro can't accept a break

[barren oar]

no way storage becomes a solved problem the moment you craft a prawn and also why did nobody talk about this before

[jade osprey]

and you didn't have to either

lol

[barren oar]

because it feels like cheating having

uhh

14 rows?

112 items

well 112 worth of space

[jade osprey]

bro be greatful

[barren oar]

no i want to suffer

why would i play c2c if i didnt

[jade osprey]

and also I guess brace for impact

[barren oar]

uh oh

clueless

[jade osprey]

the freebies didn't come for shit I suppose

lol

[barren oar]

thats fair then

[jade osprey]

it's like that quote

if something good happens in a story book it only means something bad is about to come

otherwise the story wouldn't be interesting

[barren oar]

something something sunbeam's no good without the bad

[jade osprey]

||I'm ova here collecting salt I've got salt in my storage god I'm so salty rn||

[barren oar]

||are you getting tungsten legit||

why tf is ur propulsion 2x1

and seaglide 2x2 huh

thats cursed

[jade osprey]

I'm on a legit streak

[barren oar]

tf does that mean

[jade osprey]

well at least with this one

haven't cheated one in yet

[barren oar]

oh damn gg

[jade osprey]

yes I'm still sane

for anyone asking

[barren oar]

ive cheated every but like 5 myself

i can definitely get all of them legit its just so ass

[jade osprey]

you can make it so in settings of one of the mods

[barren oar]

since you need about ||3x salt cubes per||

[jade osprey]

and I completely agree with whoever thought of that

[barren oar]

unless if you save-scum, in which case better be prepared to spend 10 minutes per item

[jade osprey]

I have a few water filtration machines going as well you know

[barren oar]

i dont see that as a worthy use of my time personally

and they gen what like one every minute

or was it faster

i recall them being very slow

[jade osprey]

yeeee but you can make it a bit more bearable to the point that it adds up

[barren oar]

hm

nah im good :D

[jade osprey]

I like get 1-2 blocks while doing nothing

and in between ventures

yeah I get it

[barren oar]

society if the main method worked

[jade osprey]

well I could see it being a nice supplementary method honestly

with the filtation machines

[barren oar]

||put 13 tonguelilies each on like 20 growbeds and wait for the magic||

[jade osprey]

it's just too daunting when it's the only one

[barren oar]

im fairly certain thats the optimum amount to have in each place

[jade osprey]

babe wake up it's time for the daily rant about the ||tungsten||

[barren oar]

lol yep

[barren oar]

huh

thats convenient

[jade osprey]

that amazing

it might as well be vanilla at this point

even the devs admitted it in below zero

[barren oar]

is it like that inbz

i dont remember enough abt when i last played it

[jade osprey]

ye it is

[barren oar]

huh nice

[warm remnant]

When I was figuring out how to get tungsten I tried using filtration machine in river and it was generating salt faster

[barren oar]

yep that tracks

[warm remnant]

But I was too lazy to build a whole multipurpose room filled with machines

[warm remnant]

I dont remember does deposits spawn randomly in each save?

[barren oar]

probably yeah

like much of everything else resource related

[warm remnant]

Because I had kyanite deposit in the mountains corridor ilz hole bottom

[jade osprey]

did you also figure that you can ||fill the 2 extra slots of it|| ?

[warm remnant]

Yes

[jade osprey]

bro tell me why isn't it the method

somebody

please

[warm remnant]

Tbh when I first started thinking about tungsten my first though was about it being in geyser eruptions

[jade osprey]

my second thought was for it to be in the biome hinted by ||"abundance of minetal deposits in the WATER on the seafloor"||

well silly ol me

little did I know

[warm remnant]

I think the first ||nanocarbon|| piece and this ||tungsten|| salt roulette are the most funkiller things in the mod

[jade osprey]

pretty much sums it up

I also had a pretty nice experience with a certain ||larvae ||not spawning for no apparent reason but I guess it's a technical issue not a design point

[warm remnant]

Ah yes, my first forced break from the mod lol

[jade osprey]

lol we almost share a braincell

[boreal hedge]

Can i run deathrun with sea to sea?

[warm remnant]

I think there was a person that did it

[jade osprey]

I think you can but you're going to regret that

[boreal hedge]

I finished normally but hardmode is too much

[warm remnant]

Hardmode of SeatoSea?

[boreal hedge]

Yep

Too much resource consuming and difficult survival

[jade osprey]

holy

another winner

[warm remnant]

The only sane person that just said fuck it and spawned tungsten instead of bashing head for a month

I wish I did the same tbh

I regret wasting so much time on tungsten

[boreal hedge]

I worried for a month even searching in code
But finally spawned it

[jade osprey]

what are you clocking at bro

[boreal hedge]

1000 + hours

[warm remnant]

And how much time this mod taken for playthrough?

[jade osprey]

now that's the proper sea to sea playthrough

lol

[boreal hedge]

200 hours

[jade osprey]

y'all scare me

[warm remnant]

I think if I combine my two saves this is my clocking too

[boreal hedge]

I played deathrun multiple times,

That took most hours

Trying to beat the highscore

[jade osprey]

ok fam I think I'm gonna need some help here

currently lacking some permissions

[warm remnant]

Data downloads or survey?

[jade osprey]

the very last one there is

survey

[warm remnant]

I think I completed both by itself

Sorry I cant open subnautica right now to check what it is

[jade osprey]

unfortunate

[warm remnant]

If I was in your place, I would check pda and see what vanilla creature or plant are missing

[jade osprey]

it honestly feels like it should just be ||alien vent|| but for some reason it gives nothing

[boreal hedge]

Is that the only thing remaining, are you at the end?

[jade osprey]

quite literally the only thing remaining

[boreal hedge]

Did you scan everything from the 1700 aquarium?

[jade osprey]

was there anything other than ||oil ||?

well usually it says the location if I've been there

[jade osprey]

I seem to be missing ||the adult sea emperor scan and really according to my pda I never even encountered it it's in red as unknown creature next to the juvenile (it's not scannable at all for some reason)||

but that's not exactly alien technology to me

nevermind figured it out

literally passed this thing just now before I began a new creative world

get trolled by "no specific location" when I literally saw it with my eyes

[jade osprey]

(and also you were right)

[jade osprey]

can't have shit on 4546b

just as I think my suffering is finally over the game pull out the biggest troll of them all

can't interact with the rocket controls

noting above surface level is usable

I guess the lesson for future generations is be ready when constructing the last piece since no saving allowed apparently

[barren oar]

skull

is it really such a vicious victory lap

[jade osprey]

New rockets also follow the pattern

That is not working

Clearing batches doesn't help

Noone on the internet apparently even had the issue

I guess fuck me in particular

[barren oar]

something something every copy..?

did you finish everything there is to finish

[jade osprey]

The control console appeared

And i WAS able to interact with buttons

I pushed one and then remembered I'm missing something

Then i went looking

Then looking in another save

And then fuck me

[worldly valve]

Kinda killed my playthrough

[worldly valve]

I still think youve buolt aomething in a funny spot

[barren oar]

yeah okay whats the funny spot then

im not going to go and deconstruct every single buildable ive ever put down just to figure out which is causing issues

especially since theres a high likelihood there's just multiple

[jade osprey]

Actually for me the funny spot is just my main base

Every time I went to the lost river it was smooth sailing

Ryley having the grass is greener on the other side moment kinda

[worldly valve]

Usually around the new shit

Dangerous to build

[barren oar]

skull theres 'new shit' all across the map

[unreal flame]

did you fill out the rocket launch checklist

[jade osprey]

as I was saying

I was missing one entry but I WAS able to interact with objects and the platform

then after a reload the controls were completely gone I also suspect they went for the 0 0 0 loction

since I remember a weird ass beacon signal with a question mark at that place as if it was a side quest icon

but I only saw it from my base and it disappeared when I got out

[jade osprey]

(when I got the last entry nothing changed)

or do you actually need to scan every singe creature and plant as well because I don't think it states so

[silk pond]

the hull nanite in the grassy plateaus didnt spawn. is that thing even neccessary

[jade osprey]

good question kinda seems optional to me

[silk pond]

i think i will just give myself the blueprint once i have 10/11

[worldly valve]

You two buiod a lot more then i do. My main base is like half the size of your outposts i swear lololol

So when i had to trounle shoot i only had 2 recently built scanning rooms

Was easy to find my cascading problem

The biggest problem spot i know of is blood kelp near survivor base

Hum

Are hull nanites intended to be on for the heat area

[worldly valve]

It does state so

[jade osprey]

it does on the data recording page

not creature survey

[worldly valve]

I think it implies the both. Not looking at it atm

The scans are one of the first things i get done since scans unlock techs a lot

I winder what im missing in the blood kelp forest for entries

[jade osprey]

that really does not constitute implying to me

and for the record I completed the thing now it's not exactly helping anything

[worldly valve]

Every major life form

That part i cant account for

Tho i can say

I always need to scan

Lumenoil

Every time

Forever

Its a shame c2c is in a very buggy state atm:(

[jade osprey]

that is actually fascinating at this point

I rememebed I had a backup from yesterday when I only had like half the rocket built

I booted it up and built with nocost and the more you know

can't have shit

I think it's hardware ban from alterra no leaving allowed from this pc anymore

[lean minnow]

what are the different types of decorated rooms and is there benefits

i looked all over the sea to sea website couldnt find any info

[barren oar]

up here

"decoration rating" i believe makes it so you lose less water & hunger in the room, but idk how relevant it is really

i dont bother with decorations myself but specialisations are very very worth

[barren oar]

by the way do you not have a backup since before starting to build the rocket

i'd imagine starting from there should work

[worldly valve]

The best specialization seems to be the machine one

The storage is kinda meh

But rhen having a room seperate for sotrage and crafting sounds...rather exhousting to me

[barren oar]

if you have 14 ground lockers (two in each direction, with a face being the entrance) its a lot of storage

you can even probably nearly double that value by placing them not facing towards the center of the room but perpendicular to it

its worth for me idk ive got like 1.75 rooms of general storage & a room dedicated to ||bioprocessor relevant items eg lysing enzimes or digestives||

actually i correct my statement specialisations besides leisure are worth

bc for that you gotta have like 20 deco rating or sum idk i wasnt able to reach it in my testing

also the "room specialisation info display" actually unspecialises the room its placed in so never use it, but the message exists its fine

[trail ether]

I am toying with a new mechanic that would make it more relevant

hint: it would involve a new meter on the lower left HUD

[barren oar]

are you making sleep mandatory

[trail ether]

no

[barren oar]

thank god

[lean minnow]

danke

[gilded nova]

Rimworld recreation stat

[trail ether]

I have never touched rimworld

[lean minnow]

OMG hello reika how are you? your mods are amazing you da aboslute goat

[silk pond]

it says i have not scanned lumenshroom oil in the Survey but i have

what do i do?

[jade osprey]

oh I know this one

I think you have to drop it from inventory and then you can scan it for some reason

[silk pond]

no i did scan it already

you cant scan it twice

[jade osprey]

are you sure you did what I'm saying

because I kinda had something similar to what you're talking about

and that may just resolved it

[silk pond]

ok

it worked

[jade osprey]

the god works in mysterious ways

[barren oar]

yeah internally the oil is two objects

the 'natural' object, or just launched out of the mushroom, and the... Normal, or what you get when dropping it

and its because the natural has that extra glow when it spawns

interesting stuff

[silk pond]

whats the id for the hull repair nanite controller as one didnt spawn in the grassy plateaus wreck

[fiery fiber]

Oh! And Heya reika! Long time no see! 🙋‍♂️

[tight creek]

What is the denotation of "Avolite"?

Well, I wanna translate it into Chinese, but there is too difficult to do it.

There are some possible interpretations: "Red Light Ore", "Red Crystal", "Avolite Crystal"

Or "Red Warp Ore"?

[unreal flame]

Avolite is a reference to a gem of the same name from Starbound. If that game has a Chinese translation you may wish to look there

Additionally, the “avo” portion likely refers to aviation, flight, birds etc

In my personal opinion, something to the effect of “flight crystal” “warp crystal” or a transliteration of “avolite” followed by any necessary qualifiers would work (is this what you meant when stating “Avolite crystal” as an option?)

[tight creek]

Thanks, I found the Avolite is also an item of ChromatiCraft (the mod of Minecraft)

[unreal flame]

that'd also be reika, lol

[tight creek]

Maybe I can use "Flight Warping Crystal" or "Avolite Crystal" (Avolite is a transliteration)

[unreal flame]

what would both actually appear like?

[fiery fiber]

It doesn't derive from Ave Maria????

[unreal flame]

not sure where you would have gotten that from, tbh

[trail ether]

with similar properties

https://starbounder.org/mediawiki/images/3/38/Avian_Ship_Upgrade_3.png

[tight creek]

@trail ether Well, there are some ChromatiCraft players said that your mod made 1.7.10 crash lol.

Because your mod often made MC V1.7.10 crash

[unreal flame]

Thats usually an improper configuration issue to my memory

Things like ID conflicts with other mods

Most often is potion effect IDs since they don’t automatically resolve from one another iirc

[barren oar]

(lost river outpost) not even close

[jade osprey]

can you even propulsion cannon a prawn ?

if you didn't ......

[barren oar]

no

too heavy lol

can the seamoth tether module be fixed so deposits grabbed with it dont despawn after moving 30m i beg

not even teleport back they just disappear

extraction mission successful

thankfully the prawn is strong as hell so it takes a minute to die from crush depth

prawn is now usable gg

[jade osprey]

honestly it feels like a big oversight unless intentional since you can basically ignore the depth modules altogether

[barren oar]

not really since then youd have to repair it

[jade osprey]

well what's stopping you

[barren oar]

and subsequently dealing with you melting in like 10 seconds

or 20

you die faster than you can construct a moonpool + thermal plant if that helps

when in the active lava zone

or lava castle

[jade osprey]

so why construct

[barren oar]

yeah i was providing a frame of reference

[jade osprey]

not like your prawn needs to breathe

[barren oar]

i'd tried to build a moonpool inside the lava castle to be able to use the seamoth in the nearby area

bc idk how else you're supposed to survive the temperature there without this progression skip

[jade osprey]

I think you can use big boy medkits to survive bareass honestly

I rememebr testing it

[barren oar]

fr? dont they heal like 1 per second

or 2 per second

[jade osprey]

yeah lol they're enough

mom we have a heatsink at home

[barren oar]

i have no clue then how i wasnt able to construct moonpool + thermal in 50s

considering it takes like 8 to do them both

[jade osprey]

why would you

[barren oar]

again, prior strategy that didn't work out

[jade osprey]

I thought you were supposed to just rush to the castle honestly just to unlock the ||portal ||and maybe collect some pieces of the thingy on the way

[barren oar]

huh

i hadnt thought of that

[jade osprey]

I was planning a lot in creative at one point

there is like so much ways to go about it

I think the most beautiful could be ||the seamoth rush and then tow it through the portal||

[barren oar]

hah yep that sounds fun

[jade osprey]

and I think you only need 1 heatsink for it

so sounds very intentional

[barren oar]

2 i think because heat builds up very fast

[jade osprey]

gotta go fast

[barren oar]

you can only go so fast

[jade osprey]

bring a propulsion boost and a dream

the things you come up with just not to deal with ||tungsten|| lol

[barren oar]

to be fair yeah its absolute shit

[jade osprey]

at least it prompts you to rethink your strategy lol

[barren oar]

doesnt even actually because if the Intended Method™️ worked then it would be fairly easy

||you'd just need a bunch of titanium & lead to put many planters||

oops that shouldve been spoilered

||small planters would be the most space effective, but big boy planters with 13 tonguelilies would be optimal for both resources and time per tungsten||

i think

[jade osprey]

glad I caught today's daily ||tungsten ||rant

[barren oar]

haha

never gets old

[barren oar]

damn you truly feel invincible the moment you get a prawn

not needing to worry about || overheating || is peak

thermal reactor goated too

also is the drill arm worse now? feels like it drills slower

slower than the || rock crusher || it definitely is

[barren oar]

oh wow never fucking mind thankfully its tanky as hell

|| 1000 degrees || is a bit too much for it lol

not that i can blame it either

almost makes it feel like the suffering was worth it :}

|| azurite || spawning in the lava zone is a very nice touch btw love it

you gotta be shitting me, two ||white tablets||?

good thing i didnt grab the blue tablet first

oh hey the ||precursor power tap|| this wouldve been convenient back when i needed to make the disease research facility outpost

[finite pollen]

why do you keep blanking out your text?\

[barren oar]

potential spoilers for people who havent reached this point yet

ion battery & powercell are so cheap? am i playing the right mod

oh wahaha the || power tap || is so ungodly expensive its not worth making anyway

||THE FUCKING METAL CAVECRAWLER ALMOST DESTROYED MY PRAWN||

NINETY FOUR PERCENT DAMAGE

yeah sorry to disturb your nest my guy lool

[jade osprey]

yum

mfw metal cavecrawlers love metal (peak design (i didn't know that))

[barren oar]

my guy how tanky are these || abyssal stalkers ||

ive been prawn punching them for a while now and they dont care

should be 16 hits?

why did i spoiler that theres no spoilers there

oh my god they siphon hp on hit

yeah i guess its not worth trying to get rid of them then

prawn still goated because they cant grab the || platinum || from it

its kinda annoying how the sea treaders go further and further in

so it takes longer and longer to gather stuff

idk whats going on with the prawn though the water seems to disappear when saving & reloading in it

presumably a legacy bug bc i dont see why c2c would do that

[barren oar]

yk there should probably be a recipe ||azurite battery|| -> ion battery/cell

because im 100% certain you have the ability to make everything into batteries and then not have anything left for the latter

though they arent required so it isnt a problem

maybe ||predatory blood kelp|| should also slow down the vehicle because lol

huh ||brine corals|| are drillable by the prawn but they dont drop anything

im not quite sure how ion power cells make the prawn immune to ||brine || damage too but im not complaining about it

maybe there should be some indication about these two mechanics since i dont see anything relevant in either of their database pages

[trail ether]

this worked for me

[barren oar]

yeah theyre just fucked on my save for whatever reason

i can send it over if you feel like looking

but last i recall, i dont think the c2c component was being added

either that or it was being added but inactive

unsure which of the two, exactly

i did test out on a creative save prior to getting to them in my survival save, there i was able to drill them, then i tested on a new creative save and i suddenly wasnt able to

unsure how much of this information is relevant or will help with narrowing it down, though

[trail ether]

another mod is probably involved

the way i implement these things normally even works retroactively for pre-existing saves

since i hook into the object spawn on world load and modify it then

[unreal flame]

i don't have any evidence for this, but de-extinction maybe?

[trail ether]

it does mess with those prefabs but I had DE and it still worked

[unreal flame]

but does it work without DE

[barren oar]

hm yeah ill do some testing then on my own

in particular i do remember i have DE, the map mod and for some time i did have perf booster, though i took it out semi recently since it culled meteors

i don't remember if i had it when they were drillable though

fairly certain i have at least one other mod yet hell if i can remember what it was

[jade osprey]

no it doesn't

worked for the first 3 in my world then after a break stopped

btw @barren oar did you apply the genFix ?

it may had happened after I did

[barren oar]

the nest stuff? yeah

but i didnt do it in my second creative save, so i think thats purely coincidental

[jade osprey]

yeahh but it kinda the only thing that could explain why it worked for me once

that comes to mind

[barren oar]

& in neither first nor second creative save did i go to the bkelp trenches first, for them to break

as is rumoured to be the cause

either way this is something ill worry about in 13h it isnt that important when you can just give urself the relevant item

obviously not cheat by giving the ||electrolytes || directly just the unobtainable ingredients

[jade osprey]

well you can say nothing is that important since you can just cheat everything

[barren oar]

many things you cant cheat in c2c but yeah fair, bit misworded on my part

i hope the message comes across well though

[jade osprey]

like what for example now I'm curious