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gilded nova
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||is it in cragfields? im there currently but cant find much useful||

jade osprey
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ladies and gentlemen, we got em

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only took like 60 hours to get there

silk pond
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good luck with the iridium

jade osprey
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||and kinda a heads up you probably wanna take care of the tiger plant thingy nearby first as someone mentioned above ||

gilded nova
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oh wow thats annoyiong

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nah fck it im just gonna use warpforward for this bug

jade osprey
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is the tiger plint killable ?

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I didn't test it myself but curious

gilded nova
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no idea i just cheat warped inside

jade osprey
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yeah that seems to be people's preferred way for this one

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(myself inncluded)

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I also thought I was dead wrong and you just needed to put azurite battery in the repair tool

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but didn't test that either

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which kinda could make sense since it's a foreign wreck as I remember from a more (??) advanced company or something

gilded nova
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dragon industries or smth

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arent stalkers supposed to drop teeth in acu?

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||or do i need the chewing toy||

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@jade osprey any chance u got that to work?

jade osprey
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well I'm more of a turn on scanner room and get all the teeth I will ever need once type of guy

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never really played with that but the ||chewing toy|| sounds fitting

gilded nova
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CANT deconstruct none has to be deconstructed first

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yeah got exactly the same bug

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what is the command for force deconstruct

gilded nova
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interesting

jade osprey
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seems quite a bit complicated for a thing that basically just lays around the map and you only need like 10 for the whole playthrough

gilded nova
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@trail ether my information panel says i have 3 teeth but i cant see any lying on the ground are they supposed to be there or is there another way to interact

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nvm i saw one

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they are tiny

gilded nova
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yeah most of them are glitched inside the ground hmm

jade osprey
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last time I needed them was probably 20 days ago to make this beauty

gilded nova
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maybe i can put a grav trap in there

jade osprey
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can you not scan for them inside your base ?

worldly valve
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Warpers are half the reason i hate the seamoth

gilded nova
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i know where they are from freecam but i cant click on them

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cause there is planter ui in the way

worldly valve
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Smelllllll

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Idk

jade osprey
worldly valve
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I thino this os my fault

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But im unsure of this one

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Im responsible for the death reload mechanic partially!

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Dont believe so

gilded nova
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IDK AS a workaround im just gonna cheat in 6 whenever i need them

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cause i have 6 stored and it takes like 5 minutes max

jade osprey
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lol the good old expectation vs reality moment

worldly valve
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Scannong rooms helps with thr corals after half cpllected

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You habe suppression

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So its fine

gilded nova
gilded nova
worldly valve
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Oh

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Well then

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Decoys

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So so so many decoys

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My old method got real nerfed becaused of thr 3 boys tho

gilded nova
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i mean im passively generating them theroretically its just bugged that i cant pick them up

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so im fine cheating them in this ase

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case

worldly valve
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Fair i suppose

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It mighr mess with something behond scenes

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Am unsure what

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My files has a couple spawned things

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Im unsure what it effevrs tho

gilded nova
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you can break progression theoretically but i doubt it should be a problem with "known" items

jade osprey
# gilded nova yeah i got them

I believe this mod could really use the metal detector thingy from below zero tbh with all the scanner rooms you pretty much required to build if you wanna go about the game in without just looking up every second thing

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maybe make it drain crazy power but locate stuff scanner room style at decreased rate or something

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or require some specific consumable power source

gilded nova
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yeah there is a lot of potential for qol definetely

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too make it less annoying you can configure exscansion to allow higher scanner room range so that you dont have to spam too many

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but i get that the mod is lacking polish with only 1 person working on it

jade osprey
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yeah but you still have to basically have a whole inventory full of materials to find anything

gilded nova
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yeah

jade osprey
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I'm just saying it's basically outdated and inconvenient

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I bet the locator thingy could make the playthrough quite a bit more enjoyable for new people

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however you can decide to balance it

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if it basically means a portable scanner room with less inventory space

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ohh man what I wouldn't give for such a thing just being able to detect missed databoxes or datacards in already explored wrecks

barren oar
barren oar
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for being a mobile scanner room, it better be far into progression

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scanner rooms you can always recycle anyway

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you won't need a scanner ||on the floating island|| after you complete its exploration findings page, for instance

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not to mention scanners can always have a moonpool added to make them legit outposts as well, and usually the only extra infrastructure you'll need is a foundation bc you already have power covered

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moonpool goated in dangerous areas cant recommend them enougg

jade osprey
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the only problem is that it takes about 25 slots to carry

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it could be a worse version of the scanner probbaly like directional and into 50 m or so just so you can make sure the thing you're looking for is actually present without carrying 25 items around everywhere you go

sterile cobalt
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are they're going to be more creatures besides the abyssal stalkers and abyssal terror?

jade osprey
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all I'm saying since you're going to do it anyway with the rooms why not make it a bit more convenient and interactive

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scanner rooms could still have its place pinpointing the location of materials and covering larger areas

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honestly I might as well try to get into modding and make it myself at this point but it'll probably take a few months

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could be a nice auxiliary mod tool I guess

jade osprey
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damn bro I didn't know you could test if the rock crusher is powered with your face

barren oar
barren oar
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ive used both powered & not and i noticed no difference

fringe widget
barren oar
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yep building tweaks

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because c2c doesnt add anything to force deconstruct as far as i know

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nor does subnautica, hence building tweaks was created

barren oar
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||enzyme 42 traces|| having a eating sound is so funny

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not even chugging it you really eat it whole, bottle attached

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and i see the usefulness of it for sure but man does it take a lot of space for any activity longer than 10 minutes

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oh. you lose it if you take off the liquid breathing system thats a reload for sure

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mask is fine though so you can still eat & drink, albeit you're drowning in the meantime

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both interior and exterior i guess lol this must feel so uncomfortable

barren oar
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is the ||lost river power drain|| bugged or something? none of my batteries nor tools are affected

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dont get me wrong this makes it hella convenient but it feels like cheating more than anything

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oh wait was it for ||power cells|| only

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big if true

jade osprey
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guess it's true

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and not even taking them out will save them

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where does the item collector do the collecting part of it ? mine just seems to be a regular grav trap

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did I get scammed

barren oar
barren oar
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or in other words, put some lockers in ya base

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i think nearby waterproof lockers also work but why make your life miserable

jade osprey
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the base in question:

barren oar
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wtf do you need a power transmitter for if its already connected to the base

jade osprey
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it's just a power plant literally

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the base is a bit higher

barren oar
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oh fair

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why not connect it with a few corridors thou

jade osprey
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well I guess manual collection it is

barren oar
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could also add a ||geyser material collector|| so you can grab the stuff from the safety of your base

jade osprey
barren oar
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oh you're powering your grassy plateaus base with that?

jade osprey
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well yeah

barren oar
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thought you had a jellyshroom cave since you said its only a big higher

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mb yep fair enough then

jade osprey
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a more bit higher

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it's actually getting even better I might not need a nuclear reactor ever at this point

barren oar
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that'd be awesome actually

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bc it kinda sucks ass to handle

jade osprey
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it's kinda isn't no ? the materials are quite reasonable by the time you will ever need it

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and you can just deconstruct it and get your money back when you don't need it anymore

barren oar
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yeah in terms of recipe it isnt that bad

jade osprey
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doesn't sound more bothersome than a bioreactor

barren oar
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well youll see what im going on about if you ever reach the point where you need them

jade osprey
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damn your ominous

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btw did you get the lilies to work with the plankton

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mine just seem decorative for some reason

barren oar
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fairly certain theyre just bugged

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or at least thats the rumour going around in here

jade osprey
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I'm planting them around the base in exterior growbeds

barren oar
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couldnt confirm nor deny by checking out the code

jade osprey
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nah I remember someone saying the "inteded use" works

barren oar
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ah

gilded nova
gilded nova
barren oar
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lol almost got too greedy in the lost river

barren oar
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will tell you if the ecosystem's built well (which, while not fully certain, i do believe you need for teeth) and how valuable the stuff put in the acu for stalkers to play with is

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obviously, the higher value, the more teeth

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also teeth are tiny in the acu make sure you arent missing them (especially since the kelp ecosystem adds tall grass)

jade osprey
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major spoilers incoming for anyone who cares (technical issue)

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@trail ether ||there seems to be another generator problem with the scannable by the entrance to the inactive lava zone. It's not actually gamebraking or anything but the fps dip is really miserable at best. I assume the smaller ones are supposed to be respawning but it seems the actual big scannable ones do as well and appear on top of each other (?) It's why it's not gamebraking since you can basically just scan the same one over and over to get all the pieces but it's a bit complicated since the scan is getting interrupted by presumably (?) overlapping ones.

and also trying to get deeper towards the other pieces my game gradually reduced to 0 fps and crashed but I assume there's nothing besides other pieces so again not gamebraking

the fps dip seems to happen when looking in the scannable direction and everything is normal when looking away or moving forward

seems to be unrelated to the other generator problem since it was possible to recreate across different world even without the larvae problem present (and also was able to be detected by the fixGens mod but could not be repaired)||

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||here's the coordinates if needed||
||DRAGON INDUSTRIES - ALTERRA DIVISION: WorldGen holder @ (-1157.0, -1130.5, 396.3) had no generator!
DRAGON INDUSTRIES - ALTERRA DIVISION: WorldGen holder @ (-1069.3, -1021.7, 401.7) had no generator!
DRAGON INDUSTRIES - ALTERRA DIVISION: WorldGen holder @ (-1085.3, -1011.8, 438.2) had no generator!
DRAGON INDUSTRIES - ALTERRA DIVISION: WorldGen holder @ (-1081.3, -1060.4, 467.0) had no generator!
DRAGON INDUSTRIES - ALTERRA DIVISION: WorldGen holder @ (-1209.2, -1060.0, 414.6) had no generator!
DRAGON INDUSTRIES - ALTERRA DIVISION: WorldGen holder @ (-1219.6, -1042.6, 464.8) had no generator!
DRAGON INDUSTRIES - ALTERRA DIVISION: WorldGen holder @ (-1095.6, -1020.8, 402.6) had no generator!
DRAGON INDUSTRIES - ALTERRA DIVISION: WorldGen holder @ (-1098.9, -1080.5, 492.8) had no generator!
DRAGON INDUSTRIES - ALTERRA DIVISION: WorldGen holder @ (-1180.1, -1107.0, 382.0) had no generator!
DRAGON INDUSTRIES - ALTERRA DIVISION: WorldGen holder @ (-1072.5, -1020.1, 525.0) had no generator!
DRAGON INDUSTRIES - ALTERRA DIVISION: WorldGen holder @ (-1046.9, -1016.8, 529.3) had no generator!
DRAGON INDUSTRIES - ALTERRA DIVISION: WorldGen holder @ (-1029.9, -1084.2, 584.6) had no generator!
DRAGON INDUSTRIES - ALTERRA DIVISION: WorldGen holder @ (-1111.6, -1088.6, 541.1) had no generator!
DRAGON INDUSTRIES - ALTERRA DIVISION: WorldGen holder @ (-1150.4, -1088.4, 540.0) had no generator!
DRAGON INDUSTRIES - ALTERRA DIVISION: WorldGen holder @ (-1093.6, -1019.6, 562.1) had no generator!
DRAGON INDUSTRIES - ALTERRA DIVISION: WorldGen holder @ (-1097.5, -1016.9, 599.3) had no generator!
DRAGON INDUSTRIES - ALTERRA DIVISION: WorldGen holder @ (-1184.1, -1027.7, 498.9) had no generator!||

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||and the crash ||

barren oar
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oh my god debris detection is such peak qol ๐Ÿ™

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really like how it gives you a ton of time to get ur shit together

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esp because i think you can get anywhere in 2 minutes if you start from the center of the map so time management isnt a big issue either

jade osprey
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good thing it's easily accessible with no head banging against a wall required right

barren oar
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lol yep good thing you dont need to save scum in order to be able to reach the first piece of one of the ingredients required for the recipe, that spawns hundreds of meters away so beside the fact you have to react the first second you can hear it, you also need to find it within the 20 seconds remaining or you've lost it until another half hour

gilded nova
barren oar
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oh

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does item collector work?

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or grav trap

gilded nova
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nope

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cant but either in there

barren oar
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hmm

gilded nova
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like 5/6 will bug inside tehre and once there are 6 inside no more will spawn

barren oar
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propulsion cannon?

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can u grab em up perchance

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maybe try a gravtrap/collector just outside the room too

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as in above it so it'll lift them

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unsure if thats too far a range though, probably is

gilded nova
barren oar
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WE WIN THESE

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i was missing two nickel after my first good run-through so i had to go back a second time and the journey takes so long

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i forgot how it is to sleep at the steering wheel

jade osprey
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you should try bringing your seamoth for a spin around the lost river !

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you'll love it !

barren oar
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haha yep i can guess its going to have the same outcome as two years ago

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thankfully moonpools are cheap & thermal power seems abundant in there

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i gotta visit the void first anyway

jade osprey
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||gotta bring extra pair of pants ||

barren oar
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||the knowledge that you can always reload and you're never in any real danger that implies crafting another refractive lens is more than enough||

jade osprey
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||I personally am content with screaming every time a fish smashes my windshield||

barren oar
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||thats generally more annoying than anything lol with them taking like 10% off when headbutting a leviathan deals like 5||

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for as cool as de-extinction is ||i think it was a mistake because fuck void thalassaceans||

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they're not even dangerous just annoying and take one (1) damage off your vehicle

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nvm i took 2 this time lol

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||i assume the thunder they produce after is supposed to alert the ghosties because of its significant acoustic signature, but i dont see any of them spawning||

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ow theres lag here

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hi so does the seamoth engine revving up increase acoustic profile

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because im terribly paranoid that will cause spawns even though im using the suppression module

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as its the only thing thats loud out here

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or well. hearable

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well okay im going to get killed by the lag earlier than any monsters at this rate

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i also cant tell if any of these sounds are coming from a specific creature or theyre just ambiance but they work really well actually

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i didnt think id be scared in perhaps one of the safest biomes in this mod

jade osprey
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it's always the silence

jade osprey
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maybe even smoother

barren oar
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high likelihood yeah

barren oar
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lol

jade osprey
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out of ..... silence

barren oar
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at least there arent any bubbles here bc keeping track of them too wouldve been far too much

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oh it continues down further. gotta come back when max depth i assume

jade osprey
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lol

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firius ............

zealous needle
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did anyone encounter problem with health being capped?
I have 58/100 and it doesn't let me heal anymore

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and I suppose unalive word was not accepted by discord here

barren oar
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cant say i have

jade osprey
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||also on a side note I specifically made the lights module for this biome since ........ you know ........ it's kinda dark there I assumed and let me tell this thing is dodo like why does it drain more power than a propulsion module even without the lights on ??? I took an extra power cell with me and barely made it back still ||

barren oar
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try to take damage?

zealous needle
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the most common solution on reddit is to respawn by getting eaten by leviathan or something else

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but you can't respawn in c2c so it doesn't work

jade osprey
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look for it you should find

barren oar
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jump off a 3cm cliff?

jade osprey
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the person solved it as I remember

barren oar
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or enter fire a bit?

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maybe that unfreezes it idk

zealous needle
barren oar
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argh

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c2c hard mode :D

zealous needle
barren oar
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||you can see the next island very well though||

zealous needle
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will take a look

barren oar
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i guess it'd be helpful for skipping ahead

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WHAT THE FUCK

jade osprey
barren oar
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i guess there's a local crabsquid that doesnt enjoy my presence

jade osprey
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@zealous needle

barren oar
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right i should probably not be getting greedy huh

jade osprey
barren oar
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fair

jade osprey
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it's kinda straight up useless I honestly don't know where could you possibly use it other than there and still couldn't see shit

barren oar
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IM FREE

jade osprey
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bro I sacrificed a storage module for it I was kinda mad

barren oar
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so weird you cant save there but i guess it makes sense

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yeah tbh storage goated

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||plankton scoop|| even more goated because its just storage with an extra row if nothing else

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woahg the ||void thalassacean|| gave me a like 300% speed boost for a bit as it launched me above the water

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yes please continue doing this its taking so fucking LONG at 10m/s

jade osprey
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haha just noticed someone's not using the ||propulsion module||

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last time I had to leave base without it I cried probably

barren oar
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storage !!!

jade osprey
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speed !!!!

barren oar
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yeah thats fair

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oh never fucking mind this module expensive ill just like with the slow speed

jade osprey
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once you try it you won't be able to stop

barren oar
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yeah i'd imagine that to be the case lol

zealous needle
jade osprey
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"What doesn't kill you makes you stronger"

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Or something

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Literally

barren oar
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oh wow the seamoth tow module consumes a shitton of power

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power drain will go crazy ||in the lost river||

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but presumably better to kill your seamoth than to consume copious amounts of medkits

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looks kinda cool though

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somehow plankton materialised into my scoop despite not going through any plankton clouds

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not complaining in the slightest though

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oh nvm it was the base plankton

jade osprey
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Maybe this was the plankton solution all along

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Just make 10 seamoths with scoops before every hatch

barren oar
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true!

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hm so hi there's gotta be a method to stop warpers from teleporting your giht

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you right*

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because im trying to ||loot the blood kelp base||, but the constant lag, ocassional freezes, terribly high amount of creatures prowling around AND the constant warper teleporting makes it nigh impossible to do so

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the fact that the creatures dont take damage half the time also compounds the effect of this being fucking FRUSTRATING

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yeah why the fuck are there FIVE CAVE CRAWLERS in a CORRIDOR

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yeah i guess i should bring ten more medkits because this is otherwise unplayable

jade osprey
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Does the warper tp you through the walls?

barren oar
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yes!

jade osprey
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Damn bro tough luck

barren oar
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it always did but the fact that you have to stand in an enclosed area for 20 seconds, for like 6 times in this area, makes it very very easy to get teleported and take half your hp damage as a result

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actually probably closer to a quarter

jade osprey
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I didn't have any issue with this

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I guess it's true each copy of the mod is personalized

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I also didn't have any other wreck warpers as some people mentioned

barren oar
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damn ur lucky for sure

jade osprey
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Nothing a stasis rifle won't solve

barren oar
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only other big issue i've had with warpers were ||the dunes arch wreck|| because it kept teleporting in there

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oh...

jade osprey
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It's a shame the warpers keep tping out and then respawn 20 sec later

barren oar
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yeah i should probably make that huh

jade osprey
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Damn you bold not having one at thag point

barren oar
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its more that anything you have to stasis you can either outrun, outmaneuver or avoid entirely with little to no issues

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and you sure as hell cant stasis if you have a vehicle with you because it takes too long to get out and back in again

jade osprey
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I explored a few things constantly firing stasis at my seamoth every 20 sec for protection ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

barren oar
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what did you need it for?

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i cant remember a major poi where you couldnt park the seamoth somewhere safe

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or build a moonpool for

jade osprey
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||glass forest||, ||life pod 15||

barren oar
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oh yeah the latter is fair

jade osprey
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if it works it works

barren oar
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former just build a base going down from 200m tbh its cheap

jade osprey
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nothing a statis rifle won't solve ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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i also made this

barren oar
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oh yep i remember this lol

jade osprey
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so you know

barren oar
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are you using any sort of mod that allows propulsioning anythi

jade osprey
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quite useful

barren oar
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n

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or how did it happen

jade osprey
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no

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it appears the rifle shot displaces everything base-like violently for some reason

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better not test it in your main base

barren oar
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huh

jade osprey
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or pin down every loose cap you have on the floor

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actual tech if you wanted to explore the thing without dipping below 500 lol

silk pond
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the resources that usually spawn in this base didnt spawn for some reason

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its not much of a problem but just reporting it

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i still got the blueprint

warm remnant
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It seems that on my save azurite didnt spawn in the second major area with it, well shit. I hope I can find crumbles I left in previous biomes to craft what i need.

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I tested this on a new save and azurite spawned where it supposed to be.

tight creek
barren oar
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yeah

jade osprey
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So I guess it's even more renewable than titanium after all

barren oar
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huh i dont remember that existing lol

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||same thing happens in the mountain island base with the broken battery, except power cells & medkits are substantially less valuable than azurite||

jade osprey
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But honestly there should be so much of it || throughout dunes || you could be filling lockes upon lockers with it

jade osprey
jade osprey
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There's an even greater thing to exploit if you wish so

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But I wouldn't remember where it is at this point

barren oar
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the ||lumenshroom oil|| that you have to go back for every time because it disappears from storage </3

jade osprey
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Chat is this real

barren oar
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i collected ~20 once (was on the hunt for the gemstone), threw them all in a locker, the next time i checked i had zero in my base despite not doing anything with them

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or maybe i sleepwalked several crafts which i then threw in the trashbin. that also explains it

jade osprey
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Don't tempt me to post that picture again

barren oar
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oh also they seemingly have the ability to turn into your fucking inventory

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interesting that theres a Player TechType who knows what that is used for

jade osprey
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I personally do it once a day to keep my gambling chances up

barren oar
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does it work though or placebo

jade osprey
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No.

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But it feels like around 50% or so

jade osprey
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It's almost like a roguelike randomness mechanic so each run is unique

barren oar
barren oar
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in the ||blood kelp base||

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so its even unusable in here... then how the hell do you fight off all the creatures

jade osprey
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Holy you gotta back that up with a pic

barren oar
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already reloading

jade osprey
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World needs to see this

barren oar
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it wasnt the entire thing fyi

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||i shot into a room, and it was the bioprocessor that was wiggling about and causing me to have 1fps from around 20 or so||

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actually yeah ill just recreate it 1s

jade osprey
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Lol

warm remnant
barren oar
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clearly this is a nerf directed towards the stasis gun because its too powerful of a weapon ๐Ÿ’ฏ

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oh i forgot saving in this place causes load times to be 4x longer

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because idk weird objects or something

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actually now that i think about it, i also fucked up my old save 2 years ago because i saved here and the objects used aren't initialised correctly

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surely it has been fixed in 2 years' time, yes

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nvm im fucked again

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though actually this is a different error from that time

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oh huh nvm a year ago actually #โ“โ”ƒhelp-and-support message

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yeah i have a slight feeling that i'm going to have to restart and play through 3 days' worth of hours again...

jade osprey
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Holy

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I saved a couple of times with this thing loaded and I'm still here

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I actually saved a couple of times right in the moment it was being loaded and wet my pants a little

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You didn't save atfer the shot did you

barren oar
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nah it was before i started work on it

warm remnant
barren oar
#

yeah i shouldve too but i havent in a while

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shouldve setup a git repo for this shit

jade osprey
#

Me too good reminder

jade osprey
barren oar
#

git works with any binary file

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definitely aimed towards text-like files but binary works just fine too... or should

jade osprey
#

Wonder how easy it is to set up locally

barren oar
#

IT PROGRESSED PAST 29%

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chat fastloadingscreen may have saved my ass

jade osprey
#

You playing ?

barren oar
#

ITS AT 90% LOADING

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498s load time so far

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im in

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almost

jade osprey
#

Looks good to me

barren oar
#

I LIVED

jade osprey
#

I remember booting up my pc like that when I had windows on hdd

barren oar
#

yeah imma go save at my outpost cant be going through this shit again

jade osprey
#

I would just hit the buttonand go about my day

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You can too now

barren oar
#

its more about the uncertainness of it

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booting up a pc you at least know its going to be 99% booting up correctly

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and if it doesnt, you can probably replace a component or two and get it up and running

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c2c? feels more like 50% and if your save is fucked without a recent backup. lol

jade osprey
#

Well yoy can always replace a mod or two kek

barren oar
#

you can remove the batch objects at the location (see: message i'd linked a bit above) but then you also lose out on all the poi has

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which is at least the ||qol bioprocessor efficiency datacard||, unsure if there's other things vital to progression in there

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seamoth towing module kinda goated unironically makes me feel like a trucker

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and its so much stronger than ||azurite|| propulsion cannon to boot

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||blood kelp base|| exploration findings page completed fucking finally

jade osprey
#

Now complete the ||crash site|| one

barren oar
#

yeah that was easy

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previous run knowledge came in clutch fr

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epic backup obtained

jade osprey
#

Gotta get on it when i come home

#

And gotta add to the list

barren oar
#

wow ow power drain in ||the lost river|| is brutal

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thankfully thermal plants are goated

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its SO FAST in the || brine || what the FUCK

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i went out for TWENTY SECONDS and im down to 20% power from 100%

jade osprey
#

Almost as it somethings discouraging you from using it kek

barren oar
#

i'd rather almost make my seamoth unrecoverable than die from the chemical bath and spend 3x as long trying to grab up the ||sulfur||

#

nothing a small moonpool cannot fix anyway

#

should probably set up a second thermal plant here its consuming a lot of power

jade osprey
barren oar
#

my guy just save scum

jade osprey
#

My brother just put another one of them medkit fabricators

#

This game is really a testament to your medkit production capabilities

barren oar
#

youll need 6 fabricators going at once to offset the damage it deals and the amount of time you need to spend grabbing it

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ow 20 second trip going down to pick up the ||sulfuric acid||

jade osprey
#

You tell me bro it probably took like 2 kits for me

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Gotta be real careful

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And see through the surface the nearest

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Do each their own I guess

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Or just scan for it old fashoined way

barren oar
#

still gotta scan it once manually before being able to scanner room it

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ultimately i think towing it up was a good deal for me though

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its almost risk free and takes way less time as it's significantly more powerful than the propulsion cannon

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||even with an azurite battery in, mind you||

jade osprey
barren oar
#

its necessary for all things no?

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scanner room wont pick it up unless you've found one by yourself first

jade osprey
#

Can you be certain of anything ?

barren oar
#

this is one of the mechanics im most certain of, yes

jade osprey
#

Honestly I shouldn't say much I just didn't have much problem with it

barren oar
#

besides the fact that it's logical, i didn't have any cases where it wasn't the case

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||unidentified object|| is the closest i can think of, but by the time i found my first, i had already scanned some alien stuff, so i can't confirm nor deny if it violates the rule

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and like vehicle damage/energy loss is significantly cheaper than health anyhow

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since health kits arent instant any more and it regens so slowly even with the upgraded kit

#

actually i do wonder if the energy efficiency module helps with the drain...

warm remnant
barren oar
#

yeah ive found it but until then

#

not too much of a problem either way

jade osprey
barren oar
#

damn rip

#

just vanilla stuff yeah

warm remnant
#

I personally just kept seamoth outside of river and did things on my own.

barren oar
#

thats actually insane

jade osprey
#

My lungs have the same lifespans and are more versatile

warm remnant
#

And I always carry scanner room in my pockets so if I need oxygen I just build it.

barren oar
#

you're losing out on lower detection, more storage, have higher chances to get softlocked (what if you run out of breathing fluid?) and the general 'convenience' of not almost unaliving yourself any time you need to do something

#

but yeah as has been said to each their own

jade osprey
jade osprey
#

I'm not sure if it work but ||the thing is if you connect a moonpool to a powered base you actually don't have to have resources for it or reinforcements you can just hop in the bludprint and breathe even the fluid ||

barren oar
#

huh!

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||i dont think you can enter it while its being built though||

jade osprey
#

||My theory is if you build a thermal and a moonpool bludprint near it you can straight up keep breathing with little storage required||

jade osprey
barren oar
#

yeah i was talking abt that

jade osprey
#

I tested it works 100% with a working base

barren oar
#

oh

jade osprey
#

||I didn't test it with thermals only||

barren oar
#

oh the theory was the thing after yep my bad

#

reading comprehension is hard

jade osprey
#

But I would assume it should work

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Well it could make ||lost river|| tremendously easy if you don't have any moral scruples with it

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|| I also didn't test vehicles but itd be busted that way lol||

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|| straight up imaginary breathing pocket lmao ||

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I should โ„ข it this way if true

barren oar
#

hopefully it works

#

also does anyone actually use the ||lysing enzymes x12|| recipe because it's just added cost for no real reason

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||you still use the same amount of salt & bacterial samples, but this time you gotta also keep a filtration machine going, use sulfuric acid and calcite ||

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i guess it is 3x faster to craft by way of giving 3x more, but do you really save all that much by saving 3 seconds

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well more like 4 seconds since its 2s per craft, looks like

tight creek
#

@barren oar OK, I just need to figure it out that where the Calcites are

barren oar
#

as has been said around here before, you can find 'em if you need 'em

#

they're scanner room-able after you find one too, much like any other resource, so no worries finding more samples after your first

barren oar
#

will this bloat filesize? yeah probably but its better than losing it all on red for sure

lean minnow
#

does this mod add new story elements?

barren oar
#

i think that's about it in terms of story, since subnautica doesn't have much of a story to begin with

#

you still have to cure the kharaa, deactivate the gun, so on and so forth

fiery fiber
#

I believe you can also set lumenshrooms to last longer. Check reikas website and you can see all kinds of configurations you can adjust

barren oar
#

i thought it was a bugge considering it transformed into storage too

jade osprey
#

Wait it does disappear from lockers ?

barren oar
#

theres a lifespan factor in ecocean's config as per the page on it, so i assume thats it then

#

though i feel it would make more sense if it affected its in-world lifespan and leave storaged oils alone, but yet unsure

jade osprey
#

I guess we'll have to KEEP AN EYE ON IT

#

I was dead certain I was crafting something with it

marble creek
#

time for dunes โ„ข๏ธ suicide run

#

I am getting these blueprints one way or another

barren oar
#

just build a base

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lol

#

vehicles are completely safe in the moonpool as far as im aware

marble creek
barren oar
#

cool now put the acoustic suppression module in it

marble creek
#

ok, everyone but echolocators

#

and the pda says reapers are using echolocation

barren oar
#

its more about how its absurdly expensive lol

#

to the point where i dont think you can craft a second

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at least not without unintended game behaviour anyway

marble creek
#

there it is

barren oar
#

nice

warm remnant
barren oar
#

yep

barren oar
#

are there really no thermal vents nearby the disease research facility...

#

i got resources just to craft thermals do i really have to go back to construct a fucking bioreactor

jade osprey
#

At this point I never leave base without a wiring kit and lube

barren oar
#

you also need like 12 other slots used for all the titanium & bulb tree seeds

#

well lanternfruit is probably nicer since so many more spawn

warm remnant
barren oar
#

nah with the seamoth its so much stuff

#

moonpool resources, thermal plants, rock crusher maybe, ||enzyme traces||

warm remnant
jade osprey
barren oar
#

but you're consuming so much breathing fluid that way...

#

not even about reduced efficiency its just that its a very limited resource that ur fucked if you remain out of when in an expedition

#

food & water is solved if you run out of it, once you have the thermoblade

#

||benzene & lithogel|| :(

#

well its also partially that you effectively have 15/45 minutes until you reach the Thingโ„ข๏ธ

#

||traces|| are way too expensive unless you're using them in one-offs

#

like needing to go far to build a base

jade osprey
#

Also you kinda can deconstruct the bio 90% of the way and get back the wiring kit and lube for the next one and keep the breathing spot

barren oar
#

cant refuel it though

#

and with its charge going down passively its kinda a pain in the ass

warm remnant
jade osprey
#

Well breathing doesn't exactly consume any power

barren oar
#

for the former you're supposed to go back every like 30 minutes to get them respawned but its so goddamn far

barren oar
#

my various bases across the map constantly run out of power (getting messages abt it) & ive only built a handful of bases not powered with bioreactors

warm remnant
#

If you explore a river more you will find a very useful thing.

barren oar
#

if ur talking about the ||treatment capsule|| yep i know it exists its just getting to it is so ass

#

|| red tablet || :(

#

interestingly i think you only need 3 the entire game ||considering you only get 9 avolite & stasis rifle consumes 6|| so that's less to worry about at least

#

ahh i just thought about it surely you can scan for ||lithogel|| that'd make the process less painful for sure

warm remnant
#

I didnt even knew that this item existed.

barren oar
#

oh lol i got mine by ||going down to grab a few deepvine samples to grow since i knew it was useful for the bioprocessor||

#

just so happened to see it nearby

warm remnant
barren oar
#

yeah

jade osprey
barren oar
#

yeah i saw the terminal requiring it

#

the fact there's a second that requires ||some yellow tablet|| is another story and im just hoping the Thingโ„ข๏ธ isnt behind it

jade osprey
barren oar
#

uh oh

warm remnant
jade osprey
#

Each copy of the mod is personalized what can I tell ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

#

One of us is clearly trolling the poor guy

barren oar
#

lol

#

on the bright side this means i have nobody to blame but myself if i do things in the wrong order and have to do the 5 minute walk of shame back

#

oh i dont have fucking || mercury || because all of it is in the fucking heated cave i dont have access to until || iridium ||

#

so i guess the ||white tablet|| is locked behind the lava zone

#

actually i wonder if the reinforced dive suit can handle it, i havent tried

#

i assume not though seamoth was almost dead in like 3 seconds in there

#

no harm in trying anyway

marble creek
barren oar
#

yeah thats why im not taking my lbs either way

#

i enjoy having 15 minutes of breath until i have to go back to base and repair my lungs!

#

not that an extra 3 minutes from consuming the expensive ass temporary drug helps any

warm remnant
#

Hold on I will check

barren oar
#

i want to finish up with the entire structure in one go anyway ill make it even if its not helpful

#

assuming i even have enough storage for that, isnt the ||red tablet|| like 9 slots all by itself

warm remnant
jade osprey
#

Delete this. Now

barren oar
#

||yellow tablet|| better not be like 16 slots

#

or some shit

#

well i could always make a second scoop module for the extra storage slot

marble creek
#

does anyone have a solution for the power transmitters not wanting to connect after reloading a save????

barren oar
#

er. storage row

#

extra storage row

#

can't say i've encountered that myself, maybe try putting another halfway?

#

seems quite far and something something float inaccuracies

barren oar
#

oh

marble creek
barren oar
#

yeah idk then sorry

#

i dont use transmitters much myself besides extending thermal plants because they're like half a centimeter normal range

jade osprey
#

And I have thermals in bulk but sometimes 1 of them isn't connected for some reason

marble creek
jade osprey
#

Ye I think you just have to cry about it not much

warm remnant
#

Okay, one last brainstorm and I will probably finally finish this mod.

barren oar
#

oh shit nice

barren oar
#

...in some parts of it

jade osprey
# barren oar it does gg

Actually shout out to that cave for being gatekept behind 60 hours of gameplay and having absolutely nothing of use

warm remnant
jade osprey
#

Unless you need 30 mercury blocks for the rocket or something

barren oar
#

only place you can find The Oreโ„ข๏ธ outside like 4 pieces

jade osprey
barren oar
#

i also happened to die in it just now

#

something something cave complication

jade osprey
#

There's plenty in the ||coral cave|| I believe

barren oar
#

in the what

#

ive never seen that idk this still a better place to gather i

#

it

#

for my stage

marble creek
warm remnant
barren oar
#

yeah obviously lol

jade osprey
#

โ€ข|| geyser coral cave || ? Anyone ?

marble creek
#

yeah

#

there is some of it there

barren oar
#

yeah idk what yall talking abt

#

i assume later game resource deposit for it

jade osprey
#

What are you smoking bro there's only 2 caves I think and both have it

warm remnant
barren oar
#

ohhh

#

that had the ore?

#

idk been a solid like 40 hours since i've done that cave

jade osprey
#

The scanner room strikes again

barren oar
#

did it early on since i remembered it existed from my previous run

#

and how it was annoying as hell

jade osprey
#

I remember the 2 damn pieces

#

After all these years

#

They were as beautiful as the day I lost them

warm remnant
#

I remember that even the scanner wouldnt help me in the first playthrough.

barren oar
#

werent they unscannable actually

#

or has it changed since 2 years

#

and/or am i misremembering

warm remnant
#

My first playthrough was in february

#

Then big update happened and I needed to abandon save

#

So idk how it was 2 years ago

barren oar
#

oh theres just a brain coral here how tf did i manage to die

marble creek
#

got any hints on sealed fabric location?

#

blueprint that is

barren oar
#

south

#

y'all reckon thats enough Heat Oreโ„ข๏ธ for like an hour or so

trail ether
barren oar
#

oh fr

marble creek
barren oar
#

yeah but thats not nearly as relevant

#

still though fix for one should also fix the other

#

what'd you do to fix it btw

#

or rather try to, considering it didnt seem to work

#

or maybe fix just hasnt been pushed? most recent update on the github is 3 months ago

jade osprey
#

Here

#

Actually the funny thing about that base is ||that there's also plasteel ingot so if you're commited enough you can skip the geyser filter altogether||

barren oar
#

and that also completes the grand reef gg

barren oar
#

i assume you cant build inside though

#

a radio message? 3+ days into the save?

barren oar
#

|| nickel || kinda expensive but otherwise chill

#

ITS ONE SLOT

#

WE WIN

marble creek
jade osprey
warm remnant
lean minnow
#

Is the progression clearly laid out?

#

Like finding all the scannable things is made much more clearly laid out

#

And i did notice like the pda descriptions usually have hints

jade osprey
#

but there's like 2 things that I can think of that are .............. on the outer edge of intuitive

barren oar
#

one of those is straight dogshit because you have to do something completely unhinted & unmentioned at (until you do it once, at which point theres a veryslight nudge into the right direction)

#

it has two different actions you can do for the same outcome, but unfortunately the logical one is bugged

#

(spoilers for the thing i was vaguely talking about above, more for other people also checking the chat) ||the issue is that tonguelillies are checking if they have the GrownPlant component, which they dont because something something subnautica stupid and doesnt give it the right component; the way its supposed to work is that they spawn plankton clouds that disappear 20x slower than normal clouds, and which slowly add to the tonguelily's progress. also the optimal number of tonguelillies should be 13, as its the nearest to the polynomial's peak when you do lerp(1, 0.05, t-1/24) * lerp(0, 24, t), but i cant say for certain as the plant is bugged||

#

||theoretically this could probably also be used to farm plankton, but its probably at a way reduced rate to the point of it not really being worth it||

fiery fiber
#

And nothing else

#

Much to my sadness

barren oar
#

thats fair yeah

marble creek
barren oar
#

right well where tf is it going to be, the inactive lava zone alien facility?

#

surely you dont have to deal with this shit method until that far down the road

#

oh maybe the cache in this zone

#

wait no its definitely going to be some c2c specific cave...

#

i do have a scanner in here but its not nearly enough for the entire lost river ill need like 3 more definitely

#

ughhh

#

oh well i guess its the walk of shame back home

#

oh ffs it could also be ||the northern bkelp zone i completely forgot about that place||

#

ive also got the ||bulb zone|| not yet fully explored but its definitely not it, since you dont need the lbs to explore the biome (and, as evidenced by pretty much every progression milestone in this mod, the idea is to first use & stress yourself over the weaker version of whatever you have at your disposal before being able to do the better, more useful thing)

#

ill still be doing it first though since its easier without the need for breathing fluid lol

jade osprey
#

bro stop torturing yourself it's ||the fossil entrance of the blood kelp trench ||

#

||it's within the reach of a single enzyme traces bottle ||

barren oar
#

wtf is that

#

lol

jade osprey
#

I guess you kinda get punished really hard for not guessing the correct ||entrance since you could basically make do with 1 traces bottle your whole playthrough if you know that||

barren oar
#

oh my god how the fuck do you move the ||brine corals|| ive been trying for the past half hour and they just Teleport Back after 5 seconds

jade osprey
#

bro remember the ||base ||you tortured yourself yesterday with ?

barren oar
#

i know you can harvest them with the rock crusher since i did that on creative

jade osprey
#

||there's another entrance in the same biome||

barren oar
#

but how do you rock crush them. without moving them this is stupid

#

okay whatever i guess ill make do without the propulsion upgrade

#

and ill check that place out in the meantime thanks for the pointer

#

well actually ive only tried it with the tether module maybe its bugged ill see about propulsion

#

but tether so goated being able to lift 5 up at the same time with no additional energy penalty & faster than the propulsion can

#

its. not crushing it

#

huh yeah idk whats going on i swear it worked in testing

#

ive temporarily enabled noenergy for testing but it doesnt seem to want to do it this time

jade osprey
#

I actually have something similar

#

I was able to harvest I think 3 of them a long time ago

#

but now every time I get back I kinda see if I can get more and the thing is just not crushing

barren oar
#

hmmm

jade osprey
#

I thought it was a power problem with my base

#

since it seems the energy is being drained constantly so I assumed it was the crusher itself just sucking on it without anything to crush even

#

and maybe it doesn't have enough power now

#

but it was able to munch on my face

#

idk I'll have to figure it out soon

barren oar
#

yeah it looks like it should work just fine

jade osprey
#

and you know there's also a say in it's entry that it ||loses it's properties very quickly when removed from the acid||

barren oar
#

yep, but i never did that

#

or well i did sometimes do it, but in my testing just now i didnt

jade osprey
#

I tried to do it quickly earlier and it worked but now it just doesn't

barren oar
#

unless it rose like half a unit above the water so it became unusable

#

||it should still be drillable, just with less efficiency||

jade osprey
#

I believe we should just figure it out without the use of prawn since it's a giant pain in the ass to bring it there

#

btw shout out to my gun for apparently flooding itself ???

barren oar
#

lool

barren oar
#

oh

#

well actually

#

might have had a bugged variant like whats presumably happening here

jade osprey
#

bro don't tell me this thing is bugging

barren oar
#

looking at the code it shouldnt...

jade osprey
#

you mad trying to figure it out by looking at the code

#

just bang your head against a wall like the rest of us

barren oar
#

yeah idk whats happening lol

#

it seems to set some stuff correctly (range of item count), but not others (resources, which causes the crusher to not crush)

#

whatever gotta restart now played too much in creative since last save

#

simple solution just try to drill it, if it doesnt work roll a random number between 1 and 3, give yourself that many and be on your merry way

jade osprey
#

you sure it's not just power issue ?

barren oar
#

the same crusher was able to drill nearby resource chunks, built a few more crushers, same deal, not to mention that upon adding a resource to the Test Subjectโ„ข๏ธ, it started crushing (although it didn't spew any resources, presumably because i didnt set any other field that might have been relevant)

#

if this isnt a Test Subjectโ„ข๏ธ issue idk what is

fiery fiber
barren oar
#

oh why tf does the ||allevation capsule|| interaction look like that

#

i'd went through the single other entrance in the local area so i didnt find the || cache || and i was going to look for it randomly

#

at least i wont have to cope with 15 minutes per 4 || lithogel || anymore this is awesome

barren oar
#

because it just looks like ||decoration it's the exact texture you'd expect to see on a wall||

jade osprey
#

Well this mod highly encourages you to scan every tiniest thing you can see

barren oar
#

it doesnt encourage you to scan every centimeter of || wall || though

#

plus you'd expect a blueprint to be the ||yellow terminal|| because thats what it was uptill now

jade osprey
#

It's || a pretty good looking wall || you gotta admit

barren oar
#

this is just betraying expectations for no reason

#

yes! exactly! ||it's a wall||

jade osprey
#

||a *pretty *wall||

barren oar
#

oh well thats for future players to figure out i now have permanent knowledge for when i replay this after the eventual 2.0 update

jade osprey
#

waiting for a scannable randomizer mod for this mod ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ ๐Ÿ”ฅ

barren oar
#

fym scannable randomiser

#

the randomiser is unfortunately blacklisted because i think it wouldve been funny to play with it

#

oh fragments/blueprints moved around you mean

jade osprey
#

mostly progression related

barren oar
#

unfortunately thats still going to be blacklisted because of the same reasons the randomiser out rn is

#

yep

jade osprey
#

well you could mix them with fishies and logs

barren oar
#

a tightknit progression like c2c's doesnt bode well with progression

#

er. randomisation

#

best you can do is shuffle things around at the current level, but that wouldn't change much since you'll still have to do everything you'll do in a normal playthrough

#

||switching white tablet and orange tablet locations :)||

jade osprey
#

well you could still divide blueprints in tiers by depth of something

barren oar
#

yep thats the general idea

jade osprey
#

most randos still have some logic behind them so

#

it'll just have to be some custom logic

#

see you in 10 years or so then

barren oar
#

lol gotta wait for c2c progression to be finalised yea

#

assuming there still are plans, like with moving the ||seamoth mk1 depth||

jade osprey
#

surely it will happen Clueless

#

am I dreaming or did the progression tree screenshot use to exist for this mod

barren oar
#

the what?

jade osprey
#

pretty much the detailed guide which item gatekeep what and so on

#

idk I kinda rememeber seeing something like that 2 years ago but I coludn't find anything now

barren oar
#

huh

jade osprey
#

literally cosplaying mendeleev right now I feel like I've seen it

#

in my dreams perhaps

lean minnow
#

All the new pdas i pick up from now on I cannot listen to is this a common glitch?

barren oar
#

some c2c pda havent been voiced yet

jade osprey
#

I don't think all of them were voiced

barren oar
#

but if ur talking about vanilla pda, thats probably a bug yeah

jade osprey
#

||wasn't there one pda that literally only read todo whoopsie||

lean minnow
barren oar
#

yeah just not play anything

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bc the devs didnt expect a pda log with audio... without any audio attached

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so there's no handling for this case

jade osprey
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damn

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I hope this doesn't mess anything up if you play an unplayable pda

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could be a thing to test maybe

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I'm too lazy honestly but it could

barren oar
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it does exactly jack shit i guarantee it

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this isnt the early stages of game development where trying to access an invalid asset could mean accessing an out of bounds area of memory and lead to corruption somehow down the path

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by handling i mean something like showing the visualiser as 'disabled' to show it isn't interactable

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engines are far more capable and smart than to crash on a missing asset (see: fallback models, pink texture, etc)

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oww 5fps all of a sudden what the hell caused this

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cant even save and reload either ||a meteor is about to fall and doing so removes the fucking waypoint for whatever reason||

jade osprey
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Where are you

barren oar
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underwater islands lol

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ive never had fps issues there so i assume it was just a bunch of things accumulating

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well ive had issues in the Fucking Laggy Ass Biomeโ„ข๏ธ but i dont think i got close enough for that to happen?

jade osprey
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Show is white

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More news at 11

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Lol

barren oar
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its usually brown though no?

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either way unless the ||piezocrystal or lithogel farts|| are accumulating, i cant think of much that can lag there

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actually i do wonder if the ||lithogel properly saves that it's been collected||

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or in other words if you can reload continuously to grab it way ahead of schedule

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oh yeah it does lol

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rip exploit

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though you need so little (||when you find the fucking capsule||) that you probably wouldn't achieve anything by not just grabbing it when you need it

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also because no one uses ||nanowrap|| for healing let's be real here

jade osprey
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I'm currently in the process of cooking something and let me tell you I actually for the first time in almost 200 days expanded my salve bush farm

barren oar
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mine farm is 2 full growbeds thats probably enough for my purposes lol

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heavily interested in your plans that actually requires healing

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wait does artificially grown salve have the ||healing effect|| that natural salve has

jade osprey
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it's really wacky and unholy and might not abide with everyone around here

barren oar
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no i mean you stay in it

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and ||get healed||

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lol

worldly valve
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The || base in blood kelp|| gives me hell

barren oar
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nope! very very slow build up

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but its infinite

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wait

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oh

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i thought you were talking about

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salve

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yeah sudden

jade osprey
barren oar
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my bad wasnt focused

jade osprey
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you learn something new every day

barren oar
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yep its kinda shit but again being infinite makes it nice

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though i do wonder if staying in multiple stacks the effect...

jade osprey
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honestly the performance deterioration is getting out of hand really

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at this point I can swim around the safe shallows with more than 40 fps with stutters

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my base included

barren oar
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what specs btw

jade osprey
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r5 1600 gtx 1066

barren oar
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im on a gtx 1050 2gb vram, ryzen 5 3600

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oh damn higher number yeah thats bad

jade osprey
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it's probably a cpu problem tbh

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but subnautica is pulling its' weight thats for sure

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all the bases I have

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you see something weirder every day

barren oar
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yeah actually the base leading down from 200 to 500m is probably also a part of it

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also the seven hatches that all spawn base plankton at my main base

worldly valve
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Probably

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Try unbuilsing some thing near new shut

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Shit

worldly valve
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Wgen i watch my pc specs the game will use less cpu/gpu and get worse and worse

barren oar
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we love optimisation

jade osprey
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Ye i heard it's the gerenal unity problem

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Like utilizing cpu threads or something

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Though I also heard it got fixed

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Well here we are playing legacy aftepr all these years

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I think the greatest shame of all is that the perfomance mod for unloading faraway bases is 2.0 exclusive

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Like where are our heros when we need them the most

trail ether
jade osprey
barren oar
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lol i was going to check that place next anyway

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with it being a vanilla structure i would have just went to the coordinates & checked out the surroundings in creative

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i do think it wouldve held a better place in the ||disease research facility|| with the link being fairly obvious but i shouldve noticed the terminal behind bars wasnt || yellow ||

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and you would have to use the temporary measures a fair few more times than... once or twice, depending on if you remember what color of item you need

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though that may have made it a bit too hard for hard mode now that i think about it, since my outposts were just far enough to where with ||un-suppressed kharaa||, it was barely manageable to reach the next one

barren oar
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now that i think abt it

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i do think it should be made more recognizable but theres gotta be some thought behind the decision to make it like that that's not "player misses this" so whatever i dont know the full story

jade osprey
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Tbh it's probably because it's the easiest notable place to reach if you remember all of them

barren oar
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perhaps

jade osprey
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And it's my preferred way of entering

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Probably the main reason

barren oar
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TRUE

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personally i've gone through the other entrance in the local area because it feels a bit more open

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not to mention flows directly into the ||disease research facility||

jade osprey
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How local are we talking

barren oar
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like || blood kelp trench || local

jade osprey
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That sounds like the least local I can imagine

barren oar
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lol

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directly opposite the || base ||

jade osprey
barren oar
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oh is it

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oh yeah i guess it does take a left turn before reaching it

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i just braindead set up a path with the pathfinder and follow it whenever i go there so i dont get lost lol

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maybe i should also get easycraft the microcrafting is getting to me

jade osprey
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Honestly I thought it to be downplaying of original management system but it's been one of the best decisions of my gaming career

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That and making a specialized working room for 50% crafting speed

barren oar
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yes! room specialisation goated as hell

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||immune suppression|| being 2 hours long is so nice

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i assume the threshold for using it again is halfway or so? doesnt let me use it when im 2 seconds off

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not that i would but to know for future reference in case i know i'll spend more than 1min and if i can refuel the timer

jade osprey
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You would be wrong

barren oar
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:(

jade osprey
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๐Ÿ˜‰

gusty urchin
barren oar
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unrelated but de-extinction's axetails are goated... and probably a bit too

gusty urchin
barren oar
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because when you whack em with the thermoblade, you not only get 2 pieces, but each give 20 food and 13 water

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maybe there should be a blacklist on thermoblade doubling lol

jade osprey
barren oar
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melons, bulbo trees and the ocassional lanternfruit carry

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as for expeditions, bladderfish acu

jade osprey
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I know there's a shit ton of items floating around

barren oar
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the. the kelp? removing the kelp?

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oh

jade osprey
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And also you know being thrown around

barren oar
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you'd lose access to anything in there though including the || wreck ||

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assuming the system hasn't been modified since a year ago

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i.e. assuming c2c doesn't now respawn them or sumthin

jade osprey
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Well collect all you need beforehand ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

barren oar
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yeah thats fair

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lol

jade osprey
barren oar
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as in, spawn materials? the geysers? they definitely do

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the safe shallows one was constantly spewing materials when i was at base

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though obviously 1 << however many there are in the forest

jade osprey
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I guess it's expensive to track

jade osprey
barren oar
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theoretically shouldn't be since it caches

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caches the geyser's cycle so it doesn't need to look for it over and over

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which is what it was doing some time ago, leading to lag with them

jade osprey
barren oar
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huh

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idk how materials kept spawning nearby the geyser then

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mustve been an admin trolling

jade osprey
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Well we are talking about different ones so

barren oar
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fair

jade osprey
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Not every item container respawns unintentionally as well so

barren oar
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vanilla ones don't

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c2c waterproof lockers also for some reason don't

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c2c alterra item crates do

jade osprey
barren oar
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may have been me but it was an incorrect hunch

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since i checked them on the same save some time later and none'd come back

jade osprey
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Filthy liar

jade osprey
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We'll wait until they do in someone else's game

barren oar
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oh of course the last thing i had to find in the bulb zone was the useless || alien teleporter ||

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i guess now i really have no more excuses to not go down to the lava zone

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but ughhh || heatsinks || will be a pain if they're the same as my last run

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oh i wonder if || the seamoth cools down in a moonpool ||

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||if thats the case it might genuienly be best to do a lost river approach where you set up like 6 outposts||

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worth testing after i get back to base for sure

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not like thermal power is hard to come by in there

warm remnant
barren oar
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i just used medkits for both

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they're plenty for how much damage you take

warm remnant
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I just love getting things upgraded

barren oar
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also considering you really shouldn't be harvesting azurite before the suit, ||you have two free shaped samples if you explore||

warm remnant
barren oar
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i just made-do with switching it out

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laser cutter <-> seaglide whenever needed

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ocassionally scanner (if it's dangerous) or builder (rock crusher takes a YEAR to build without it)

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stasis is a trap pre-electrochemical

warm remnant
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I was thinking about too but then I said fuck it we ball and went to get a shit ton of azurite.

barren oar
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bc ur just losing a battery

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propulsion <-> repulsion recipe is also a trap if you have an azurite battery in it, albeit probably unintentional

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since it gives you a tool with a max charge normal battery instead ๐Ÿฅด

barren oar
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although that does also double it as a free battery machine and/or free charging station

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yep lol

warm remnant
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I need to gamble for 5 tungsten to get a very short period of not getting my seamoth deep fried

barren oar
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yeah i just give myself them through command tbh

warm remnant
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This tungsten gamble drove me crazy

barren oar
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im not wasting time grinding ||150 salt = 15 cubes|| for the rough chance to get the 5 tungsten required (they're a 1/3 chance)

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of course, you can get that down to 5 cubes if you save-scum; but save-scumming also implies spending 2 minutes to reload into the fucking save