SeaToSea

[worldly valve]

You need to grow almost everything

[warm remnant]

I need to grow them not on exterior growbed?

So I tried and it not working, maybe this is because when I getting close to this particles they disappear? I tried moving away and particles was dropping right on tonguelilies. So I dont know whats wrong.

[worldly valve]

Dont worry about them

You dont need the tonguelillies yet

It will be more clear when you hwve the thing you need

[trail ether]

on a technical level the colliders need to intersect

the particles fall farther than the "AoE" of the mushroom spores

[brazen dawn]

Hey is there a proper way to get the databox in the void without attracting the ghost leviathans, i know of that sound module but as as soon as i exit the seamoth two more leviathans spawn and sometimes that lags the game really bad making it impossible to get the databox without dying. I've also tried using decoys.

[forest valve]

you have to be super careful

like you only move every few seconds

you move a tiny bit, then stop

[trail ether]

uh...no?

[forest valve]

well thats what it was like for me

when i got out of the seamoth

i fixed the module a tiny bit, then stopped in place

but that was the previous update, before this one that changes alot, so idk

[brazen dawn]

yeah all good

I would of liked if the module worked if you are outside the seamoth as well. limiting the spawn to just one leviathan is fine as I'm able to use a decoy to distract it. Its just as soon as i exit the seamoth the two other leviathans spawn making it impossible to get the module without dying. @trail ether could that be implemented.

[trail ether]

I explicitly made all three spawn to avoid people trying to rush it

[worldly valve]

If you are experiencing a lag apike on leaving that is rough. How long is the lag spike?

Do you have enough time to zap it at least a little?

Pop azuirite battery in and zap it for a momebt

I also know an alternative method which you partly figured out...works best whe you bug it hahahaha

[brazen dawn]

it happens as soon as the leviathans surround me when i repair the databox it doesn't happen straight away though.

and i have to leave the area entirely before the lag stops

its pretty much one frame a second

[worldly valve]

You night be able to mamage it

You dont need to repair it all at once

[warm remnant]

Do you mean this tech is somewhere in inactive lava zone or deeper? Because I explored everything but inactive lava zone.

[worldly valve]

Tbh i thought you werw just talkinf about getting tonguelilly twndrils for

Filters

Microfiltwr

[warm remnant]

Im trying to figure out how accumulating minerals progress bar works.

[warm remnant]

So I need to place growbed where my screen turns blue/yellow?

[warm remnant]

If yes then it not working

[worldly valve]

Idk tbh

I realise you are much farther than me

I havent done amythong in river after spawning in bretahable liquid

[trail ether]

yes

[warm remnant]

Its not working. This is how I place growbeds.

[trail ether]

packing them densely greatly negatively impacts collection

[warm remnant]

Single tonguelily not working either.

Are these spores supposed to go away when you come closer?

I cant even reach these blue/yellow screen zones without using azurite powered seaglide before they disappear.

[fiery fiber]

Use single pots maybe? I haven't got them to work either so far

[warm remnant]

Single pots are bugged. Tonguelily disappear after growing in it.

[warm remnant]

It happens only when pot located on the ground though. When placed on platform bug not happening.

Single pots didnt help.

[fiery fiber]

Ahhhh! Ok. Well I haven't been able to get them to work in crop plot. I have those and plankton feeders in front of my hatch lol. I JUSt found BP for fauna keeper away thingabob and was just about to try that

Oh wait ...you're referring g to collecting minerals! I haven't even got around to that yet. Nvm

[trail ether]

I know about this

it is not a bug per se

there is intentional code to delete invalid tonguelilies

but for some reason it fires for those planted in freestanding pots, ie not parented to a base

[warm remnant]

Are tungsten grains related to tonguelily?

[worldly valve]

Been debating on which nightmare to deal with first. I do believe gettinf a full 150 zsconds of air in the river is number 1

Time to make several air hubs

Wonder how others been dealing with the river early on

[boreal hedge]

Still stuck at this @trail ether any more clues?

[boreal hedge]

just not able to accumulate minerals?

[icy relic]

Should i be able to interact with the orange ||data card inside the mushroom tree|| ?

[forest valve]

it doesnt hurt

also probably

it gives you a bypass to some tool

[icy relic]

Huh?

[icy relic]

Yeah i heard, but i cant use or get it

[worldly valve]

Might need laser cutter

Cant recall

[icy relic]

I had it in my hotbar

Even held it in my hand

[boreal hedge]

It should help you || open bulkdoors which cannot be opened from normal lasercutter ||

[icy relic]

That's great, but i do have to somehow get it right?

I saw it on the ground there but no way to interact with it

[trail ether]

it should be simply grabbable

[icy relic]

Interesting

[icy relic]

Trying to grab it, no button wtf

I can from under the map

Looks like the interaction needs to be placed a bit higher

[worldly valve]

You are the first ive seen report this one

Sucks that happened tho

[warm remnant]

Yeah me too. I tried a lot of times and it simply does not work.

[brazen dawn]

Hey can someone point me in the right direction for the seamoth MK 1 module at a bit of a loss here. Thanks.

[worldly valve]

Hmmm

What biomes have you fully searched?

Havr you been listening to pda entries?

[boreal hedge]

MK1 is in || biome where an old crew had a base in ||

[brazen dawn]

Is there a clue in the pda entries?

but thats all good thanks bro

[boreal hedge]

The game is extemely lagging near || glass coral || and i am unable to completely scan it, its stopping at 47% @trail ether

[worldly valve]

The pda entries aometimes trigger thinga

They are good to listen to

[brazen dawn]

yeah easy

[worldly valve]

Tho tbh i dont usw the seamoth much

Azure seaglide is just so fast

[brazen dawn]

Yeah all good i finally figured it out after hours, i thought that PDA entry was just indicating the ||liquid breathing recharger fragments lol. ||

[worldly valve]

Ahhh

I think the voice mod does say depth module

[brazen dawn]

Yeah Vehicle Blueprint Data, i didn't even register what that meant until i went back.

[forest valve]

yes

all the clues are crumbs of data that lead you to the objective

[brazen dawn]

Are all 3 in the Jellyshroome caves?

[forest valve]

all 3 what

vehicle modules?, no

of course not

you will need the previous module for the next

[brazen dawn]

||Seamoth Blueprint Data?||

Not all 3 modules

[forest valve]

well probably ig

does it say so in the pda entry for stuff thats missing?

in that case, yes

[brazen dawn]

I've only found one so far. I've been looking for 30 mins

[forest valve]

probably all over the jellyshroom caves

or possibly also on the island

[brazen dawn]

@forest valve I'm pretty sure all of them are in the jellyshroom caves because there is a PDA entry in ||exploration findings were is says that all three are hidden. ||

[forest valve]

mmm

yeah its probably all in the shroomcaves then

its hidden well, reika knows how to hide things

i can tell you that becuase i played around 40 hours of seatosea before this update

[brazen dawn]

Yeah ahaha definitely but i just have to persevere and keep looking ill find it eventually.

[warm remnant]

Did you found how to obtain tungsten grains?

[brazen dawn]

@worldly valve hey bro I've found 2 of the data modules I'm at a standstill trying to find the last one.

[forest valve]

you can only get hints, but not too many

we cant give you locations and stuff

[brazen dawn]

yeah just give me a hint. ill be able to figure it out

[forest valve]

ill let paira give u a hint cus i havent played this updated version yuet

[boreal hedge]

No, I just spawned the required tunsten grains and continued

[worldly valve]

Scanning r9oms r great

Hqve you built them?

I buiod a lot of them

For like

11ish titanium, 1 wire kit, 1 lube, 1 quarts, 2 copper, 1 gold

And yiy have a perfect mini base

I build that shit everywhere

(Actually i try to get them either in the corner of 3-5 biomes, or deep inside a biome i consider a pain)

[brazen dawn]

Yeah easy I'll try a scanner room thanks.

[fiery fiber]

Check carefully and pay attention to what the first one told you. It tells you generally where to look. It's there but it's kinda tough

[brazen dawn]

@fiery fiber Bro i have searched for hours and hours I'm guessing it means in the ||Jellyshroom mushrooms but i cant find shit. ||

[fiery fiber]

Look down in hidden places

They are definitely there.

Don't look in one place and check the hint it gives you the area you should be

It was a hellish time finding the last one for me

[brazen dawn]

yeah i found the ones that are ||on the lava and the other one on the ground near the cave bush||

@fiery fiber what do you mean when it says it gives you a hint about the area. i have one message in the exploration findings about how they are hidden deeper in the cave? am i missing something?

[fiery fiber]

Geez then you just need to find the easy one

People usually drop.stuff when they in a hurry to get somewhere I'd imagine

[brazen dawn]

bro I'm so ||fucking ||confused. The easy one ahaha im losing my mind.

[worldly valve]

Did you uae a scanner room?

It detects the chips once you find the first onw

You missed the one in the most obscure cave in the god damn game i swear

I tens to put 2 or 3 range incrrases with a speed scan increas

[brazen dawn]

yeah i just restarted my game in a new save and saw the data card in the scanner room. my game was bugged because that didn't pop up in my hardcore save.

Just my luck

or is there a certain trigger before it shows up in the scanner room. i did collect 2 of the 3 in my hardcore world

[brazen dawn]

No data module?

and i was only 50 meters away from the data card

[worldly valve]

It might just have taken awhile

Scanning rooms are buggy in base game too

Speed mods amitigate it kinda

Finding one was my trigger

Tho it was an acxident when i found the other two

My main base lives above jellyshroom by kelp dunes craf n grass

[brazen dawn]

yeah all good

[worldly valve]

Apologies on not being very helpful

[worldly valve]

Apologies on not being very helpful

[brazen dawn]

All good no stress

[round vessel]

orange data cards are tricky

sometimes you need to "miss" them first before they show up in the scanner room

when i was scanning for seamoth mk1 had 2/3 and the last one appeared only when i got physically close enough to it to make it "pop in"

[worldly valve]

Scanning rooms are like that yeah. If they are fucky swim in the area by them usually helps

[trail ether]

scanner rooms can only find things that have been loaded in previously, in that game session

that is just how they are implemented

[warm remnant]

Reika can you say are tonguelilys related to tungsten grains? Because they are bugged for me and I cant check this for myself.

I need to be sure that I cant legally obtain this item before cheating.

[trail ether]

there are definitely "legal" ways to get them

I used them

[warm remnant]

Other than tonguelily?

[worldly valve]

I havent tried yet

But woukd i get super punished for double liquid breqthing tanks still

It used to be so awful

The one in inventory drains its big tank rapidly

So while you get more shot term time

You can bascially use 1/2 of both tanks fuel in one outing

[boreal hedge]

is there any way to counteract cyclops powerloss

[vocal lodge]

Stupid amounts of engine efficiency and thermal charging modules

[worldly valve]

There is another

[boreal hedge]

that is?

[forest valve]

i dont think you can completely negate it

but im not sure i never got to that point

[boreal hedge]

I am now in the stage of exploring lava zone, I need to get kynite to be able to get depth modules for all 3, but I try to get kynite using seglide and I die

[worldly valve]

lololol game ca.lling out my spawinign of breathing fluid

ill go check if the thingies every spawned

just updated

[forest valve]

wait how

thats really funny

whatd it say

[round vessel]

if you managed to get ||tungsten grains|| you can use seamoth with propulsion module and drag it to where you can drill it

[worldly valve]

it just says the item was spawned in at 2 days in lol

good news though

the thingies spawn now @trail ether

[boreal hedge]

in the new run anyone managed to get ||tungsten grains||

[worldly valve]

Getting deep in the river is actually a lot easier than it used to be

I like the enzyme change a lot

Basically lets me get rhe fulll 150 seconds without needing a second tank

Also confirmed 2 tanks in river is baaaad

[brazen dawn]

Any hints for the microfilter?

[worldly valve]

Did you get purple tablet?

Find purple tablet

Or alternatively dont worry about it keep grabbing shit

[brazen dawn]

All good just about to make one.

Thanks

[worldly valve]

Noice so you found the 1 free ion cube

[brazen dawn]

Yeah, pretty cool spot to hide an ion cube

[brazen dawn]

How does the tonguelily work. I'm really confused.

[boreal hedge]

Right now it doesnt, waiting for @trail ether to update the changes

[brazen dawn]

Do I have to spawn in the seamoth mk 1 module?

Because i need the microfilter for the module

[warm remnant]

You can find blueprint for microfilter

The only thing is broken in tonguelily is accumulating minerals

[brazen dawn]

Yes I have it but I need two tonguelilys to make it.

[warm remnant]

You grow them and hit with knife

[brazen dawn]

How do I get one though I knifed it but can't pick them up

[warm remnant]

Did you tried hitting it multiple times?

[brazen dawn]

Yeah and it breaks into multiple of them but it won't let me pick them up. Am I missing something

[warm remnant]

Strange, I checked it right now and when Im hitting them I get it in my inventory

The wild ones

[brazen dawn]

I assume you find them out in the mushroom forest and break them? That's what I tried doing.

[warm remnant]

Yes

[brazen dawn]

Yeah no doesn't work for me

[warm remnant]

The only thing I can do is to tell you to spawn it. The id is ||mushroomVaseStrand_seed||.

[brazen dawn]

its that thing right the yellow?

[warm remnant]

Yes

[brazen dawn]

Yeah all good it must be bugged. Im not getting anything. Anyway thanks ill just spawn it in.

[trail ether]

yes it does

[trail ether]

that is not broken

one auxiliary way is broken

[warm remnant]

So there is another place where I can use tonguelily other than mushroom forest?

[warm remnant]

Ok so I tried growing it in every biome and no results. I tried using plankton feeder on it and no results either. Growing near geysers not working too.

I cant think of anything else to do with the tonguelily.

[forest valve]

they gotta have distance in between iirc

[warm remnant]

Tonguelilies?

[forest valve]

yeah, in the farm thing

u cant just plant a whole bed of them, gotta have distance i think

[warm remnant]

Im growing it in single

[silk pond]

the ||seamoth mk1 just exploded||. is that ment to happen?

[forest valve]

the one in the aurora?

you are probably kinda forced to make it

[silk pond]

i dont have the blueprint though

i guess i got to find it

[worldly valve]

I have a hars time gauging whwre you are aaron

You are worried about the later game tonguelilly mechanica but have a lot of ground work to do before there

I thought you wete in the river/deeper tbh lol

Stop messing with the tonguelilly its a dead end atm

Even if you got tungsten graian you cant use them really i dont think

[silk pond]

so i cant get the upgrade untill i get to the lost river? wow

the mod really changed since the last update

[worldly valve]

Which upgrade?

[silk pond]

seamoth deaph module mark 1

[worldly valve]

You dont need tungstun grains

You jusy need the lilly man

What biomes have you completed?

[silk pond]

im still in the early game

[worldly valve]

Yeah but surely youve completed a biome or two by now

My advixr is stop worrying about hoe yo get tungston grains

You have the lilly

Comb biomes

[silk pond]

lilly?

[worldly valve]

The tonguelily

[silk pond]

i dont think i even asked about tungston grains

[worldly valve]

Sorry i got a bit confused

[silk pond]

i have scanned tunguelily

[worldly valve]

Noice

Sorry i got you confused with someone else for a bit

My b

[silk pond]

its all good

[worldly valve]

Tbh the azurite seaglide is faster n more usefuk than the seamoth

Its like almost twice as fast

Seamoth feela so sloooooooow

[silk pond]

true but the air is nice

[worldly valve]

I only use it if i have to lol

Ut is, but azure seaglide can get from 300m to surfave super quick

[silk pond]

and the inventory space

[worldly valve]

And i always use 2 big air tanks

Even eith the inbentory space

Sometimes ill put my seamoth between ny base and where i wanna be

But oytside that it just feels like abbrick to me

[silk pond]

so the seammoth mk 1 deaph module requires these toungyelilys?

or am i confused

[worldly valve]

Hahahaha it does but i wouldnt worry about that for now

[silk pond]

k

[worldly valve]

Comb some biomes

Get azurite seaglide if you havent

[brazen dawn]

@trail ether@worldly valve @warm remnant Should i be receiving tonguelillys when hitting them with a knife. i just tried a different save but the same thing is happening. Is my game bugged or am i doing something wrong.

[warm remnant]

Yes you are supposed to get tonguelily tendrils when hitting it with a knife

[brazen dawn]

Easy, i was just confused because i started a new game just to test this and to see if my save was bugged.

[worldly valve]

Yeah you should get the seeds or whatever tjey are

[brazen dawn]

Hey why isn't the seamoth depth module mk2 showing up in modification station.

[warm remnant]

You need to find blueprint for it.

[brazen dawn]

i have the blueprint?

i have both mk2 and mk3

[warm remnant]

This is very strange. Do you have mods other than sea to sea and its requirements?

[brazen dawn]

yes but i removed all those mods, tested it but still the same issue.

only mk4 would show up when i tested it

[warm remnant]

Did you tried to redownload mods and the game itself? Sadly I cant help with this problem.

[brazen dawn]

no but ill just spawn it in no harm in that if the game is bugged.

[brazen dawn]

@warm remnant Figured it out. Just had to repair game files and for whatever reason that fixed it.

[worldly valve]

Ahh depth mod 2

The "i guess ill leave this on this ceiling as i go to river goodbye" mod

[icy relic]

Found a misspell in the "Island Degasi Wrecks" entry in the Exploration finding tab

Also, can anyone give a hint on where the Seamoth Mk1 upgrade is?

[forest valve]

"a pda recording of a conversion between recording of a conversation between"

[worldly valve]

the real advice is don't worery about it. the other advice is do you listen to the voice logs?

[icy relic]

I managed to find 1/3 but are the other ones in the same biome?

[worldly valve]

yeah

and i bet you found the easy one

[icy relic]

Most likely, left of the entrance, i just cant find the other ones

[worldly valve]

one is pretty simple, one made me go, why is this place on the map

one was tricky

but tbh it's only an extra 100m depth capacity

i guess useful for a couple caves dependiong on playstyle

what biomes have you completed?

[icy relic]

uhhh, don't really know, not that many

[worldly valve]

pay attention to that tab

its pretty solid

tho somtimes cna lead a bit adtray

at one point i grabbed one tech below 500m at it completed 2 other biomes at that moiment that said incomplete

[icy relic]

I am really having trouble progressing because i cant go deeper without the upgrade

[worldly valve]

but they tech isnt in those biomes

do you got modificatioin statiuon

and ultra high capacity tanks?

i dont leave base without 2

at least above 500m

[icy relic]

Yes and yes

[worldly valve]

2 of em is real sweet

[icy relic]

I do have 2 high tanks

[worldly valve]

just make sure to swap them for air on surface

how abotu rebreather?

and have you found the battery upgrade

[icy relic]

That too

[icy relic]

Azurite? i do have one for seaglide

[worldly valve]

yuou should be able to get to 400ish fairly easily

it only take azurite seaglife about 30 s to raise 300m

building scanning rooms in places helps

tho keep an eye on if you get weird lag leaks after building

i need to unmake an airbubble in an alien base atm

i just...cant really get back therte without expendsing a lot of reasources

[icy relic]

Well atleast i know all 3 data things are in the same biome

[worldly valve]

yeah

[icy relic]

Are they detectable on the scanner room?

[worldly valve]

that's a very good question;)

worht case scaneario, scanning rooms are awesome

[boreal hedge]

yes

[silk pond]

wow ||microfilter|| location is really cool

[silk pond]

i really cant find that|| last seamoth mk1 datacard||

[icy relic]

Ooh you are gonna have trouble finding that if it's the one I think it is

[icy relic]

Mind giving a hint on its whereabouts?

[icy relic]

You can use the scanner room

[slim veldt]

What mods does SeaToSea require?

[icy relic]

All of Reika's

All other 6 that on Reika's site

Where you downloaded SeaToSea from

[slim veldt]

Any think else like ECC?

[slim veldt]

Thanks :)

[icy relic]

Hm unsure

[worldly valve]

Terrein patcher i believe

Dials is also good

[icy relic]

Dials?

[silk pond]

yeah i did that and it was really easy. i would have never found that last one with out the scanner room

[icy relic]

Same here lol

[silk pond]

Reika's along with terrein patcher, ECC, modding helper, those are the only required ones

version checker is also important to have

[icy relic]

Wasn't version checkers broken on legacy?

Pretty sure Reika's mods have a version checker themselves

[forest valve]

ecclibrary legacy, terrain patcher 0.4

[forest valve]

was* i think

never had that issue, even on reika's previous version, but idk

[icy relic]

I'm talking about the version checker mod

I heard it doesn't really work well on legacy because it sees living large mod versions as updates for legacy mods

[forest valve]

you can turn off the notification thing thats stuck on yourscreen

but also idk if its a requirement anymore

[icy relic]

The yellow text you mean? Reika's?

[forest valve]

idk

probably

[icy relic]

Anyways

Any hint about the microfilter?

[silk pond]

accessible early but not obtainable for awhile

[icy relic]

Is it unlockable with the ||purple tablet||?

[silk pond]

potentially

[civic grove]

Hello again 🙃
After having aborted my last SeaToSea Playthrough because of performance problems (with a 10+ year old PC...) a long time ago, I've now just started a new playthrough with a up-to-date PC \o/
Looking forward to it 😎

[round vessel]

that wont stop the game from dropping to 40fps

[forest valve]

yeah seatosea is alot more playable now

[forest valve]

i played the game on 2014 hardware in the legacy version and it ran fine at 60 fps

with seatosea

its alot more playable now

[worldly valve]

I swear i got a data entry for hyper saliwnted water

Maybe i died

I think what triggered it was having a liquid tank in inbentory while in river

Hard to be sure

The fps drpps can be caused by bases sometimes

Careful about building in new area

S

[worldly valve]

eeg

you need to build a second liquid tank to get the hypersalianted water entry

i spawned in a second one, as i did have 2 at one point but it seems to have vanished

deletred it as just wanted the entry after

or rather garbaged

but damn, needing to fall into the trap of a second tank

OH THERES A COUPLE OTHER TEIGGERS

but cant get moth into the river until you get to river so likel to miss it

i gues if you brought a power cell would work too

[worldly valve]

I think im trying to progreaa the wrong way atm

Guess next play session ill just drive my moth to the abyss

Was hoping i could find calcite in the river but im having no luck

[warm remnant]

I am still trying to figure out how to get tungsten grains. Can I have any hints besides that water filtering is involved?

[worldly valve]

Idk man

I havent even found calcite

Tungston grains is beyond what i need atm

[silk pond]

the ||cragfield wreck ||door still cant be repaired. clipped through with a base

[worldly valve]

Sometimes it works

But irs annoying

I usualyl tp thrhoguh kt

If you save n reload(exiting first) sometimes it comes to life

[forest valve]

but reika directly fixed it

or, should have

she got the issue herself and fixed it easily

[silk pond]

that could be the case but i have seen that bug outside of c2c before

i think it just is a common bug

[worldly valve]

I expierenced the bug post fix, but it fixed itsekf on a reload

[worldly valve]

You know, ive been thinking about trying to build myself the reinforced dice suit

Naybe you shoukd try the same

I recall you are baaically in/past the river

[warm remnant]

Tungsten grains required for reinforced suit.

[worldly valve]

Wait is ir

Humm

Well there goes that plan

I have missed something in borth blood kelo

[worldly valve]

Nayne i should build aome techs i never built

[trail ether]

they do

[trail ether]

what is dials

[trail ether]

there are also some recommended but not required mods, like radial tabs

[worldly valve]

Redial tabs js what i meant

[fiery fiber]

If tungsten grains are what's needed I'm fairly confident reika woulda made it obtainable. Not easy but definitely obtainable

[warm remnant]

I know, but this might be the case like with the blood crawler larva. It was working for reika, but not for anyone else. And unlike larvae, there is no information on how tungsten grains should be obtained. Thats why Im still not sure if its bugged or not.

[toxic crown]

mod is still legacy?

[forest valve]

yes

nautilus is still in beta

[round vessel]

there kinda is partial info on how they are obtained if you dig through item descriptions

[warm remnant]

I know that they are obtained from filtering water, but I tried everything that involves it and no luck. So I dont know if Im doing something wrong or it is bugged.

[fiery fiber]

Ya I get it. Lol I still haven't figured out how to stop plankton at my base

[worldly valve]

i nevert built the thing for that

i just have the suit lol

[final wharf]

Hmmmm, So I still haven't had the time to jump back in and figure this stuff out. I didn't even consider this option until just now but wondering for those currently playing. Does the base plankton still occur if your base is above the water surface? Anyone try that?

[worldly valve]

so im 99% sure i know how to be rid of it

i just keep not making it

did you know plankton is a fauna?

[worldly valve]

the people seeking tungston grains...

they have calcite right?

[warm remnant]

Yes

[worldly valve]

its gotta be somewhere in the river :?

[warm remnant]

Yep

[round vessel]

it is

[worldly valve]

Luls ill find it eventually

Found most everything else there...i think

[fiery fiber]

Ya ... I have something that might address that. Haven't built it myself yet either 😋

[worldly valve]

So how have people been attempting tungston?

[warm remnant]

I have tried using geyser filter, seamoth scoop module, water filtration machine and tonguelilies.

[worldly valve]

Whats the setup? Can you describe or take a pic?

For geyser filter*

[silk pond]

is there a technique for gathering planktin because i have been waiting in the clusters with the scoop module for awhile now and am getting very little

[worldly valve]

Irs best when moving

Its a little jenky n slow

My advice is to get as much as you can atm so you wont need to get it again for a long time

[silk pond]

yeah thats what im doing. im getting it in the crags. it is very slow

i have been doing it for 20 minutes and got like only 9

[worldly valve]

Thats a bit rough

Just to check, hows your fps going

Do you have any weird stuttering?

9-10 should be enough for a start

Theres about 6 or so in a chest somewhere

[modest shoal]

Anyone have a save where they're in the void spikes? I tried this mod back in 2023 but couldn't progress past void spikes as I would drop to single digit fps whenever I went there

[warm remnant]

I was just slapping it on geysers in different biomes in hope that biomes affect filter loot.

[forest valve]

the mod has alot of stuff different from 2023 iirc

like either way ur gonna have to redo your playthrough

[modest shoal]

Yeah, which is why I figure I'd try it again, but I don't wanna get like 20 hours in and have to be like "whelp, I'm hard locked out again"

[forest valve]

becuase getting to the void spikes is probably different from before, or the steps to getting from it atleasdt

[silk pond]

my fps is fine, the mod is running way better on this update,

[forest valve]

the mod is far more stable than before

[modest shoal]

totally understandable, I was planning on doing a new run, but I don't wanna get out there and have it shit the bed

[forest valve]

but either way i feel like if ur requirements barely fit the requirements of the base game, you probably shouldnt run mods as big as c2c

[forest valve]

its alot more stable as i said

some people even said that the lag spike from being near large wrecks is gone

or mostly gone

i didnt get any fps drops in the void spikes im pretty sure

[modest shoal]

It was never a computer issue, had a 3080 and a 5800x

[forest valve]

and that was even before this update

[forest valve]

oh shit u should be golden then

[modest shoal]

I still got awful lag

[forest valve]

youll be fine

[modest shoal]

I'll be sending you my hourly invoice if I get there and I get the same issue again ;p

[silk pond]

the void spikes worked well for me on my playthroughs before this update. i havent gone there yet on my new playthrough

[forest valve]

i mean, the new update worked so well i had 0 lag on a machine with parts from 2014, but i only played like a couple minutes sooo

[trail ether]

I find it funny that people talk about having no idea how to get tungsten while also complaining about - or being right next to people complaining about - a problem that they ignore, not realizing is the other half of that question

[worldly valve]

Hum

Interesting hint

[fiery fiber]

Dang it! We have to figger out the stupid planktons

That is so reika! Just like with the purple tablet

[worldly valve]

Purple tablet wasnt too bad

I found 11 on my firat seach

Then each search after that was 2-3 at a time

And holy shit is the above cave bigger than i ever thought
While the lower cave is actually supet disapointingly small

[silk pond]

i planted a tungulily in the mushroom forest and it has a prompt on it that says its "accumulating minerals" but it isnt going up. am i doing something wrong or is this a bug

[forest valve]

give it time

[silk pond]

its still not going up and its been hours since i planted it

i will try it somewhere else

[silk pond]

yeah i dont know what to do for that. i have placed it in the open, under glowing mushroom particles

it still stays at 0 percent

[trail ether]

those have already been stated to not be working

[silk pond]

what does it do?

[keen laurel]

when picking up platinium, it picks up, but doesnt shows in inventory, what can i do?

[forest valve]

the ancient stalker stole it from you

[keen laurel]

i forgot that they can steal... thanks!

[forest valve]

yeah take multiple pieces at a time, or look for platinum in places where ancient stalkers no longer are

because they move with sea treaders due to the platinum

[round vessel]

did you try it in lost river

[silk pond]

can someone point me in the direction of where the blood crawler larva is. i have looked around both blood kelps with no success

[worldly valve]

Caves

[modest shoal]

I built a base at the sunbeam crash location and its entrance is being swarmed by plankton, is that a mechanic or did I just choose a very unlucky building spot?

[worldly valve]

Its a mechanic

Theres a tech to deal with it

Its mostly harmless

Long as you dont sit in it

I did get killed inside my base once post fix, more out of the range of the stuff g9ea away

There is a tech for it otherwise

[forest valve]

you later get something to defy the plankton entirely iirc

[keen laurel]

can somebody hint where ||sealed fabric|| is?

[worldly valve]

In a data box

[worldly valve]

Whar biomes have you completed lord?

[keen laurel]

||Dunes, dunes arch, eastern grassy plateaus, floating island, island degasi wrecks, jellyshroom caves, lifepod 9, mushroom disk forests, mushroom tree, northern kelp forest, quarantine enforcement platform, southern grassy plateaus, underwater degasi base, western grassy plateaus||

[worldly valve]

You completwd north kelp without sealed fabric

Damn

Not bad

[silk pond]

i searched the caves above 500 meters

[worldly valve]

Hmm

[modest shoal]

huh, i'm getting a weird crash when I try to load the game now, log ends in this:

[Info   :   Console] [SMLHelper/Error] Error on LoadTextureFromFile call. File not found at C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Subnautica\QMods\Ecocean\Textures/Plants/Mushroomvasestrand_BumpMap.png
[Info   :   Console] [SMLHelper/Error] Error on LoadTextureFromFile call. File not found at C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Subnautica\QMods\Ecocean\Textures/Plants/Mushroomvasestrand_Illum.png
[Info   :   Console] [SMLHelper/Error] Error on LoadTextureFromFile call. File not found at C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Subnautica\QMods\Ecocean\Textures/Plants\GlowOilMushroom/Glowshroom_03_SpecTex.png
[Info   :   Console] [SMLHelper/Error] Error on LoadTextureFromFile call. File not found at C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Subnautica\QMods\Ecocean\Textures/Plants\GlowOilMushroom/Glowshroom_03_BumpMap.png
[Info   :   Console] [SMLHelper/Error] Error on LoadTextureFromFile call. File not found at C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Subnautica\QMods\Ecocean\Textures/Plants\GlowOilMushroom/Glowshroom_hat_BumpMap.png
[Info   :   Console] [SMLHelper/Error] Error on LoadTextureFromFile call. File not found at C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Subnautica\QMods\Ecocean\Textures/Plants\LavaBombMushroom/Lavashroom_01_BumpMap.png
[Info   :   Console] [SMLHelper/Error] Error on LoadTextureFromFile call. File not found at C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Subnautica\QMods\Ecocean\Textures/Plants\LavaBombMushroom/Lavashroom_hat_BumpMap.png
[Info   :   Console] [SMLHelper/Error] Error on LoadTextureFromFile call. File not found at C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Subnautica\QMods\SeaToSea\Textures/Creature/Deepstalker_BumpMap.png
[Info   :   Console] [SMLHelper/Error] Error on LoadTextureFromFile call. File not found at C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Subnautica\QMods\SeaToSea\Textures/Plants/HealingFlower_BumpMap.png
[Info   :   Console] [SMLHelper/Error] Error on LoadTextureFromFile call. File not found at C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Subnautica\QMods\SeaToSea\Textures/Resources/Platinum_Illum.png
[Info   :   Console] [SMLHelper/Error] Error on LoadTextureFromFile call. File not found at C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Subnautica\QMods\SeaToSea\Textures/Resources/Iridium_Illum.png
[Info   :   Console] [SMLHelper/Error] Error on LoadTextureFromFile call. File not found at C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Subnautica\QMods\SeaToSea\Textures/Resources/Obsidian_Illum.png
[Info   :   Console] [SMLHelper/Error] Error on LoadTextureFromFile call. File not found at C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Subnautica\QMods\SeaToSea\Textures/Plants/TreeColony_BumpMap.png```

I notice it goes from back to forward slashes, but dunno if that's an artifact of the loading system

[keen laurel]

Is it hard or smth? Where i needed to use sealed fabric in northern kelps?

[worldly valve]

Its not super hard, but better than the average.

I dont really know how to give a hint for the sealed fabric thats not simply look in blah biome

Its easily overlooked and is in a databox

Scanning rooms are the best brute force

[fringe widget]

sea to sea is really making me hate bonesharks

[civic grove]

Are you provoking them with the sonar?
Casually pinging while traveling over boneshark-territory quickly leads to a whole pack following you, each one at least taking one bite out of your seamoth... I know from experience 🙃

[keen laurel]

Okay, but thanks for help

[trail ether]

that is not a crash, that is just saying those textures were not found

but you are probably having that sporadic world-load crash

just load again

tends to be related to running low on memory, including GPU memory which needs a reboot to clear

[modest shoal]

Hmm, well I've got 24gb vram and 128gb normal ram

It wouldn't be because I put deep vines in a planter near my base, would it?

[trail ether]

VRAM is not freed until you reboot your machine

every time it is allocated by something, it is gone "forever"

so if you boot the game 25 times you use up 25 game's worth of VRAM

this is what I was told in 2019, very forcefully when I was dubious

[modest shoal]

You can monitor vram in task manager though, this isn't windows 98 where system resources go to 95% and the system shits the bed

If that were true, I wouldn't be able to load and unload LLMs into my vram

I could maybe see it is some shitty unity bug where some portion of VRAM isn't properly freed and would cause issues with lower VRAM cards

[forest valve]

i remember keeping my pc on for days or weeks on end on my rx 580 with 8 gb of vram, opened subnautica quite a few times, i didnt really notice any extreme vram usage

[modest shoal]

Hmm, I think it is that deepvine issue. I've rebooted multiple times and tried to load, still CTD once it tries to load that TreeColony_BumpMap.png

I set subnautica to realtime and affinity to just core 0 to see if i could work around it, and it locked up my system, waited like 3 minutes then rebooted my system, GPU was at like 85 degrees

Gonna see what happens if I replace the texture with just a blank png

[worldly valve]

Thats weird

[modest shoal]

Ok, so i can 100% confirm it is the deep vines in a planter box by my base

I was able to get the save game to load by setting the game's priority to High (but not realtime) and core affinity to 0, it was running at like 20 fps, but I was able to go out and harvest and dismantle the planter box, and save the game

once the planter was gone, I went to base, saved and quit

was able to load the game just fine like normal, created a backup of my save, and replanted the deep vines, waited for them to mature and saved again

now that new save is bricked in the same fashion

[worldly valve]

i didnt have this issue\

am sorry tho

what biome are you in?

[trail ether]

TreeColony has nothing to do with deepvine

that is for bacterial clusters

[modest shoal]

yeah

they plant still loaded, removing those textures did nothing, all i had to do was just sit and wait for it to load the deepvine and it fixed it

[modest shoal]

safe shallows

at my primary base just by where my pod landed

[pastel comet]

how does the FCS mod integration work? i obtained the PDA but dont seem to have unlocked any of the recipes like id expect

[forest valve]

you have to buy the recipes

and you get recipes once you buy them

[pastel comet]

i mean for the initial alterra hub buildables

[pastel comet]

okay did some searching and found that theyre gated behind ||finding the blueprints for them in another wreck somewhere|| good to know

[pastel comet]

another question: are ||all of the bacterial samples|| able to be found in ||the coral tree that lifepod 13 is at||, (just wondering yes or no)

im not sure if i missed something when trying to search

[forest valve]

every single one is in the tree yeah

[fiery fiber]

I cheese it with pump and lots lotsa lots pipes

Also fcs is optimized well with c2c from what i understand. Reika has made some adjustments like relocating the base blueprints

[pastel comet]

i somehow missed the ||primary cave of the mushroom tree. which i i knew i remembered from my original playthrough i guess i was just really blind this time 😂 😭||

[pastel comet]

another thing im wondering: ||how do i harvest alkali vines? im not sure what constitutes avoiding detection; i attempted to freeze them with stasis once in the past to try to circumvent their defenses but the vines seemed unaffected, and i also tried to just take them out of the ground with a repulsion cannon when retracted which did work technically but didnt change me not being able to harvest them||

[silk pond]

try to get behind a rock or other object, approach it fast

[pastel comet]

||okay i ended up finding a stalagmite that one was placed in so i could easily hide behind it while being right next to it. it always seemed to go away quickly when even coming from hiding around corners so ngl i assumed it was scaled with distance and impossible to get close to without something special||

[worldly valve]

The distance is a key thing

You were pretty close to solving the intended method

[pastel comet]

another thing im trying to solve: ||digestive enzymes. most basic question im thinking of with trying to hunt for what could allow me to get them is, are they a Flora product or are they a Fauna product?||

wait

||reading entries i see something about enzyme pods in the reefback's one okay im gonna investigate that||

oh yeah for some reason it seems like i cant scan the gasopods im not sure whats up with that

[worldly valve]

I dont think you need to aca the pods

Enzymes are technixally a hybrid, to answer your question

What biomes have you completed?

[pastel comet]

eastern grassy plateaus, floating island, mushroom tree, northern kelp forest

ive been to a lot of biomse but havent fully explored all of them yet

although some like the mushroom disk forests im surprised theres stuff i havent found in them yet

and the jellyshroom caves although i think i remember the pda mentioning ||vehicle related signatures||

[trail ether]

stasis did not originally work - so it depends on how far "in the past" is - but it does now, though it is neither the intended method nor available to you as your first method

[pastel comet]

ah okay

[worldly valve]

Coulsnt it be available? Id need to check a recipe to be sure

It woukd be a pain ti be sure

[pastel comet]

i mightve gotten lucky and found it in a time capsule, wouldve been like a year ago

[worldly valve]

Foound akali vines in a time capsule?????

Oh stasis

[pastel comet]

it requires ||azurite batteries which require polyaniline and i never got to making the bioprocessor on that save so i can only assume it wouldve been by time capsule. unless i got desparate and spawned it in idk lol||

[cobalt drum]

Are all 3 ||Seamoth Mk1 Depth Modules|| supposed to be in the Jellyshroom Caves? I've swept the length of it with scanner rooms and only found 2

[trail ether]

you need sealant to make the stasis rifle, indirectly

[trail ether]

that is explicitly blocked

anything gating is removed frmo a TC

more often than not this results in empty TCs since seemingly 90% of them are just packed with ntohing but cheaty

[cobalt drum]

Never mind, the third one just hadn't loaded in yet because my computer is slow

[worldly valve]

One o the bestest things you can get is advanced wiring kit

I had 2 free advanced wire kits this playthrough

Was sweet

One os the freebie i think reika placed

[silk pond]

||so i searched every cave above 500m in both blood kelps and still havent found the blood larva required for the liquid breathing||

[worldly valve]

Did you find the giant crabs?

If you got time hop in vc

|| in north blood kelp, facing toward the river entrance but above, follow the paths to the left. the cave goes a little below 500m ||

[pastel comet]

huh interesting maybe i just spawned one in to see whether it was what i needed or not

[pastel comet]

||oh the sea treaders were the solution||

[silk pond]

im gunna look in that location now. lets hope my game isnt bugged

[silk pond]

i have found normal blood crawlers if that is what u mean.

i am at that the lr interence but dont know where to look

[worldly valve]

hop in vc

hes in the proper area

they arent there

neither are the angry boys

[silk pond]

what is the spawn code for the blood crawler larva

they arnt spawning

[worldly valve]

||breathfluid||

[pastel comet]

how do i ||harvest phytoplankton, ive found the clusters but im not sure how to get samples from them?||

||oh theres something with the seamoth for gathering them, i see||

[silk pond]

scoop them out of the water

[pastel comet]

do i need ||to do it with the seamoth in some way|| or can i do it with ||just using a knife?||

[silk pond]

maybe

[pastel comet]

are the ||purple tablet|| fragments ||all able to be found at the mountain island||

i have ||16/17 and im not sure where the last could be, and im guessing i cant scan for it unless my scanner room is just deciding not to show it since its like that sometimes||

[worldly valve]

no actually

[pastel comet]

darn

[silk pond]

it is in vanila though

shouldn't be too hard to find

[pastel comet]

hmm okay ||are there more than 17 fragments in the world||

[silk pond]

no

1 of the fragments is found in a location far away from the mountain island but it is in vanila subnautica

u found the 16 in and around the mountain island right?

[pastel comet]

ive gotten 16 so far and im pretty sure they were all the ones around the mountain

[silk pond]

ok

do u have any ideas as to where it could be?

[forest valve]

in the mountains biome

https://tenor.com/view/brain-brain-meme-big-brain-big-brain-meme-big-brain-time-gif-2441110471562975014

[pastel comet]

actually wait no ||is the 1 other location youre talking about the one at the degasi base||

[forest valve]

just search a few thousand square feet

[silk pond]

bingo

[silk pond]

bro what

[pastel comet]

okay i swear i collected that one because i got everything from that area so hmm i must not have the 16th from somewhere around the mountain

ill have to keep hunting

i did find ||the red tablet though lol||

[silk pond]

nice

there is one in a cave that isnt connected to any other caves that contain tablets

its still near the qep

[pastel comet]

maybe theres one on the south-ish side that ive missed since thats the only area ive really not scoured as thoroughly although i do remember i think i at least ||picked up one on the beach||

ill have to take the camera around there again

[silk pond]

the one i think ur missing is quite secluded compared to the rest

[pastel comet]

is it on the deeper end of where i should be looking

[silk pond]

its very close to the qep

[pastel comet]

interesting

[silk pond]

and likly the deepest one

[pastel comet]

ah okay

yeah i might have just not gone deep enough then

i will have to explore more tomorrow

[boreal hedge]

Can anyone tell me vehiclelightbonus , I am not able to find it again, This is my rerun

[fiery fiber]

I'm dunno what that is unless you mean the light mod for seamoth?

[boreal hedge]

yea, it increases light for seamoth, its useful to find islands in void spikes

[fiery fiber]

Gosh sorry it's been so long since I found that. It's prolly in a wreck. Prolly just gotta scour each biome

I actually wanna test a theory with those of they work to make bone sharks go away based on. Their pda entry

[pastel comet]

mountain island i such a troll in this search lol ||if i see something purple and think its the tablet its a gel sack, if i see sparks and think its the tablet its azurite||

[forest valve]

hey so i wanna start seatosea again and i forgot what are the qol mods usually applied

[pastel comet]

blueprint tracker is really helpful

battery charge indicator has also been nice, data box scanner fix, better scanner blips, radial tabs

ive been playing with pickup full carryalls which makes waterproof lockers basically backpacks since it helps with carrying back some big items but its also maybe a bit more OP than whats intended for playing with c2c idk

its easy to abuse since apparently it doesnt apply a nesting limit so ive just been trying to avoid doing that too much

mostly just use it to store equipment and when i was needing to collect lots of mushrooms for battery crafting because that becomes just kinda boring back and forth

[forest valve]

was looking for that one

[pastel comet]

oh also blueprints improved ui

[forest valve]

got that one

also the whole improved ui pack

[pastel comet]

oh are there more improved ui mods?

[forest valve]

theres a mod thats basically a whole pack of useful ui changes

UI Tweaks

[pastel comet]

welp im gonna have to install that now, that looks pretty useful

[worldly valve]

my fav way to craft batteries are getting them in chests from crash zone>.>

[pastel comet]

i also have snap builder to make cramming things together in my base a bit more easy, alongside building tweaks but thats mostly just to have fun with

[worldly valve]

redials

mod

[pastel comet]

i have altitude meter as well just as a small QOL thing

[forest valve]

praying my modpack doesnt crash immediately

oh right i still have access to my old 40 hour world

[warm remnant]

Has anyone found how to obtain tungsten grains? Im going to figure this out again, but last few times I tried everything that went into my head and had no luck.

[trail ether]

DBScanner is not necessary as that is integrated into Exscansion

[trail ether]

what is this

[pastel comet]

ah good to know

[pastel comet]

https://www.nexusmods.com/subnautica/mods/990

[trail ether]

"condensed" is not "better"

[pastel comet]

yeah the name is maybe biased

works well for the increased amount of blueprints to look through in c2c though imo ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[forest valve]

we getting all the lore with this one 🗣️ 🔥

[forest valve]

well, its less to scroll through

[unreal flame]

Yeah, “compact blueprint UI” is definitely a better descriptor

[pastel comet]

noticed my game had suddenly gotten weirdly stuttery and eventually realized why possibly: a bunch of phytoplankton have randomly spawned around the multipurpose room i built (or the bioprocessor i built inside of it?)

is there a way to delete them?

i can only assume there must be a bunch of them in this one spot since the only other time my game has gotten stuttery was on my past save when there were like 100+ fish in an area for some reason

dont know if the lighting effects are helping either

[pastel comet]

attempting to pick it up with the seamoth scoop module and i cant seem to get that to work either 🤔

aand i got in my seamoth near them and they killed me within a second ??

[pastel comet]

im just gonna try deleting the cache for this section

nope that hasnt affected the plankton

[worldly valve]

there is a thing foir the plankton

where is the base built?

any bases near the new bases?

[pastel comet]

safe shallows

its the same base ive had

i just built a multipurpose room for it and a bioprocessor and suddenly: bunch of phytoplankton around it

and theyre causing quite bad lag afaict

@worldly valve whats the thing for dealing with them?

okay i think the number is increasing when i load the area back in i think this is the same thing that happened to me with fish before

because they didnt seem to be this bright before

[pastel comet]

okay relogging a bunch of times in the process of trying to test things with this seems to have made the lag go away

seemingly because the relogs caused all the plankton to despawn i guess?

from what im gathering this is a feature and im seeing additional confirmation that there is a way to deal with this but no clear answers on what that is

i enjoy trying my best to figure out these things on my own but for dealing with something that seems to cause my game to break itd be nice to have a more clear answer

[round vessel]

from what i remember you can add an extra moonpool and dock a seamoth in it and it either removes them or stops them from spawning

[pastel comet]

okay i can confirm there is now lag occurring now that theres a cloud of plankton at the base

its interesting though it seems like theres only one and yet its causing stuttering

so its not a bunch in the same area

since it seems like a bunch in the same spot makes it much more solid based on how the crops look

[fringe widget]

I'm not sure if this is a vanilla bug, but planting kelp in a 1 tall acu makes the kelp never grow but also prevents you from deconstructing the acu or building another room on top. Fixed it by turning on force deconstruct in the console

[pastel comet]

okay what ive determined so far: ||base plankton spawn if theres a hatch or a moonpool, they wont spawn below -500, they wont spawn in the void, they might only spawn in dunes, sea treader zone, grassy plateaus, and the mushroom forest? which would explain maybe whats going on here which is that this room is in the grassy plateaus right on the border of where the safe shallows end. which would explain why ive not had this issue in the other part of my base where there is a moonpool and hatch||

[pastel comet]

also that ||tonguelillies are whats meant to clear them it seems? but im not seeing anything happen from them, another plankton cloud spawned in already after growing them||

@trail ether i think i need more insight on how this is meant to all work

[pastel comet]

hold on okay the plankton are gone and im still lagging

something else is going on here, hmm

[boreal hedge]

@trail ether Do I need to scan || abyssal terror or some creature out there in void|| I competed the full exploration and need to take off but I see this

[worldly valve]

It states if its levathan

[forest valve]

all the ones above it are rays, maybe a clue?

[boreal hedge]

I travelled the whole world, it still says not yet encountered

[boreal hedge]

not until I encounter it

[errant cairn]

Actually, What is SeaToSea?

[forest valve]

completely changes the progression of the game

playthrough is easily over 60 hours

[errant cairn]

Where does one acquire Sea To Sea?

[forest valve]

https://reikakalseki.github.io/subnautica/mods/seatosea.html

you will need all of reika's other subnuatica mods

terrainpatcher v0.4, ecclibrary, and preferably but definitely radial tabs

oh also qmodamanger and smlhelper these are needed to run legacy mods

[errant cairn]

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ALTERRA SEA VOYAGER TIME?

[errant cairn]

Just these dependencies?

[forest valve]

it disables all other vehicle mods

iirc

disables "qol" stuff

you cant use customcraft with it becuase it modifies the majority of recipes

and adds alot of new ones

[forest valve]

and by "qol" i dont mean actual qol, i mean things that make you op fast

[errant cairn]

😭 (insert non existent sad trp and fcs emoji)

[forest valve]

you can check a list of things it disables, on reika's seatosea thingie

Alternate recipes for crafting or methods of obtaining vanilla items (including some that are not obtainable in vanilla, such as mercury or some alien tablets)
Remote resource collection (ie being able to collect resources without going there in person), especially for areas not yet entered in person
Prawn-style drill arm modules available before/without the prawn suit (including seamoth arms)
Mods that massively expand the number of modules you can install per vehicle
Vehicle upgrades designed to negate normal limitations (eg higher tiers of seamoth depth modules, a cyclops module enabling permanent shield, a prawn teleportation module, or a much more powerful seamoth efficiency module)
Any kind of player invulnerability
Any kind of teleportation except maybe of the player between seabases
Seabase parts or balance tweaks that massively buff the power of "basic" power generators, or add other "trivial" solutions to issues like farming or power generation
Anything to disable fog/lighting
Anything to duplicate or convert items (Equivalent-Exchange style)

[forest valve]

altho the remote collection/tp module, and some other stuff, have some exceptions

the mod has full compatibility with FCS, as in it changes how its done

you can get money to buy recipes from the mod, but not buy the items themselves

[errant cairn]

good god

how big is this mod file

[forest valve]

its like 300mb or something

[errant cairn]

tiny

for any file i mean

my mods are 4kb XD

[trail ether]

on what specifically

[trail ether]

98% of which is assets, most of which is textures

[trail ether]

I cannot tell you offhand what you are missing but I recently did it myself without issue

[forest valve]

damn

[errant cairn]

How big is your DLL?

[trail ether]

small

a few KB

[errant cairn]

Same

[trail ether]

ok not a few KB

but about 1-2MB

DI is 1.5MB

C2C is 700KB

though I ship with the PDBs which are twice that

[errant cairn]

I request advice on how one should start a C2C run. Also how much time do I have to put into it? Can I do school, this, and still make mods on the side

[forest valve]

60 hours last time i checked but it can be more or less now

[errant cairn]

In reference to your discord status, is it The Zone or The Void?

[pastel comet]

nvm about it, sorry for the bother

the issue seems to now be something separate from the plankton now and ive still been debugging what it could possibly be

[worldly valve]

Thats more about how much you play

[worldly valve]

Usually my cascading lag happwns if i buikt somethinf

In a spot with new stuff

[pastel comet]

im writing up something in #❓┃help-and-support since itd probably be better for in there

[worldly valve]

Mygame will slowly run slower

Till i unbuily the object that caused it

Is it an fps drop but your gpu and cpu are used less ans less?

[worldly valve]

60 i think is fast tbh

I think closer to 10p potentislly

[forest valve]

nah what

before reikas big update i was near a prawn suit in 40h

so i feel closer to 70h or so is more reasonable

[worldly valve]

Its easy to spend a few hours in a biome only to discover yoy acrually found everything

Dunes for example

Dunes can has a bug with i believe glass forest

Techs gotten are coded wrong or something

So when you get the databox in dunes, the text uodates glass foresr databox,

But i spent a frw hours, maybe 3 or 4 scouting evert inch of dunes

Its also fairoy easy to lose a lot lot of time to buildinh

A strat i eventuakky use is a dumo chest since i like to carry 2 air tanks and a line or two or gear

But many recipes more or less require an almost empty i ventory

Its easy to lose a few hours over a playthrough to a billion base things

Not to menti9n as this is a puzzle mod

Thinga like alkali vines can take anywhere from 5 seconds if you accidentally do it

To a few hours of trying random things

Not to mention many people in chat have lost hours to troubleshooting bugs or things thwy think are related but arent

Also i dony think anyone in chat has tungsten grains🥲

[boreal hedge]

any clue

[warm remnant]

The greatest challenge in the mod at this moment. Brainstorming this right now and hope that I will figure out something.

[worldly valve]

Has anyone tried it under the brine?

I havent turned it on in like a week lol

[warm remnant]

Tonguelily?

[worldly valve]

Yeah

I also thought there was some comments from reika about conbining tongue lily with the

Other dust collecting thing

Putting them over/intersecting

[warm remnant]

It says insufficient microbiological matter in this area.

[warm remnant]

It was about mushroom tree spores that is not working right now.

But this is not main way of using tonguelilies.

[worldly valve]

Oh. Is it fully bugged then?

I wasnt 100% sure what reika was refering to on that comment due to pronoun

[warm remnant]

I was told that tonguelily interaction with mushroom spore the only thing broken. The main way should work.

[pastel comet]

it seems to be all my base parts right now, getting rid of them slowly reduces the lag. i wonder if its something to do with them ticking to check if phytoplankton can spawn? im not sure if theres something with the first time they spawn to have triggered this to start happening though

because thats when this all started is when the phytoplankton first spawned

[pastel comet]

i guess now this is a question for @trail ether if theres any way initial phytoplankton spawning could possibly trigger continuous base lag? not sure if you could think thats a possible bug that could occur

[trail ether]

that was an issue for a week or so but resolved a month ago now

[pastel comet]

interesting

which update?

were other people running into the issue and the update resolved it for them?

..... okay so i think i found something to fix it finally

just saving in my seamoth and relogging, instead of saving inside the base

[trail ether]

this one https://i.imgur.com/sLEQBFO.png

relevant change partially pictured

[trail ether]

this is a known thing I ran into in my dec 2023 playthrough; for some reason loading frmo inside a base often results in a much laggier session compared to loading outside

it is almost certainly something I did but I do not have the slightest clue what

[pastel comet]

weird, well at least i figured it out i guess

[worldly valve]

My lag was never caused by the plankton.

Could you describe your lag? Are you getting fps drops but also less cpu/gpu usage?

The geyaer filter is alao known for ghe decay

Ahh spawn in lag

That also usually haporns in certain locagoons. But you aparently only built base in shallows

Ah well

All my lag that slowly decays has come from a base piece in a weird spot, or a new tech

The plankton never lagged me, but did kill me several times. Rven post fix it killed me once

[pastel comet]

• #❓┃help-and-support message
• #❓┃help-and-support message

posted some videos in the support channel earlier

[worldly valve]

Ahhh that does look like my issue

Wally my advice hasnt changed

Its probably a very specific base piece in a problem spot

Or one of the new techs

[pastel comet]

it didnt seem to be anything specific since the more pieces i removed the more the performance improved, it wasnt just one piece i would remove and suddenly everything was fixed

[worldly valve]

So it didnt slowly build up over time

[pastel comet]

unrelated: hmmmmm interesting item

[worldly valve]

Your base looks way more expansive then mine ever are lol

Never seen that

[pastel comet]

no it just kind of happened after the phytoplankton appeared

[worldly valve]

Weird

And you dont have a

[pastel comet]

it couldve also been: after the bioprocessor was built, after i built in the grassy plateaus, or building a multipurpose room specifically, or a water filter or a biogenerator, im not sure

[worldly valve]

Geyser collector

[pastel comet]

nope not yet

[worldly valve]

Its hard to troubleshoot it tbh. Ive given you all the info ibe ever run into lag wise

Usually its new techs or builsing by an added area

[pastel comet]

got it by ||sitting under the mushroom plankton rain||

[pastel comet]

i mean tbh its not really that expansive, probably the smallest base ive ever made, but thats just because ive been having fun with building tweaks to make everything super compact

[worldly valve]

Im a pretty minimal builder

I think ive frustrated reika a few times🥲

I learned how the iten collector worked

Took me a long time

I really need to work on my assumption that ive done soemthing wrong when something seems off

[errant cairn]

I'll ask again.

[worldly valve]

This playthrough can latlst awhile. Be prepared for 60 hours+

[errant cairn]

TIME TO PUT THAT ON MY RECORD

[worldly valve]

Thats a hard question to answer as a lot of that comes to life balance

[errant cairn]

I already have over 200 hours in this game

[pastel comet]

ive been playing for like 50 hours so far and i havent gone below 450m lol

[worldly valve]

I think the playthrough could be longer depending on what happens and idea you have

[errant cairn]

Oh I lied

[worldly valve]

Some people get caught up in certain bits

[errant cairn]

i just want the alterra sea voyager (scroll up to find my realization that I can't have nice things in this mod)

[worldly valve]

And theres a couppe small bugs in the biome trackers that can lead you on goose chases

For example, i spebt like 3-4 extra hours in the dunes looking for something i had already found

[errant cairn]

So I just come here for some help on some of those?

[worldly valve]

"More to find here"

More or less yeah

[errant cairn]

I'm a 2.0 Modder not a Legacy Modder (though I've heard theres not many differences)

[errant cairn]

Oh ok ty

[worldly valve]

Its not too different, little clunkier but tbh you will be fine as a modder

[errant cairn]

From a modder stand point, project too beg to convert to 2.0, just like FCS mods!

[pastel comet]

unrelated does anyone know how to do FCS drilling with this mod im finding it seems to have some depletion system attached to it but its just telling me its immediately depleted of ores in the area when i place it down

[errant cairn]

To change a game from taking 30 hours to beat to 60+ is no small feat

[worldly valve]

The river can cost a lot of hours too

My real advice for the river is dont be afraid to save scun a little bit

Reika has acrually helped inadventantly with that

[errant cairn]

Not surprising. Curious what she added there (don't tell me. I like the fun)

[worldly valve]

Tho she killed a strat of mine i used to use

A nightmare

Heres the one thing i will say do not do in the river at all

Dont make a second air tank for the river

Trust me

Not unless you have a very specific plan and are okay with a massibe sacrifice of resources.

[errant cairn]

Let me guess, its like my current save where its just death after death (mods" RotA, TRP, and Deathrun)

[errant cairn]

Oh no, thats worse

[worldly valve]

You asked for no spoilers and i dont know how to not collapse possibilities

[worldly valve]

Yeah 1 air tank in river without a plan

Itherwise i always run qith 2 ultra high capacities

[errant cairn]

Plan: Cyclops + Shield module + Yes batteries

[worldly valve]

Ha

Hahahahhaa

🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA

You sweet sweet

Summer child

How i envy your ignorance

You havent seen winter yet have you

[errant cairn]

What? Are batteries 200x harder to make? I'm used to being able to scan cargo crates for Yes resources EXTREMELY quickly so plz god have mercy

[worldly valve]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[errant cairn]

I've seen snow. Hurt to touch

[worldly valve]

I perso ally havent crafted a single battery this playthrough

[errant cairn]

HEH?

[worldly valve]

Crash site broski

[errant cairn]

u dumb or just no resources?

[worldly valve]

Reapers arent scary sir

Just swim a little to the left

They are also very blind

[errant cairn]

Yeahhhhh just prefer not to lose a Cyclops or a Seamoth

or a Prawn suit

[worldly valve]

Cyclops

prawn suit

Oh you sweet summer child

Do enjoy this mod child

[errant cairn]

Look at it from my perspective: New fun mod that takes 60+ hours to beat coming from a modpack where I can get BELUGA in EARLY GAME + 100x speed seaglide if I choose to

No, Seriously

I have beluga in my current save

[worldly valve]

There is a way to get a buffed seaglide speed in this

[errant cairn]

Only 5 hours put in it

[worldly valve]

Beluga?

That a super cyclops?

[errant cairn]

Guaranteed to not get 100x speed though

[worldly valve]

100x is almost detrimental at times🤣

[errant cairn]

Imagine being able to hold both a Seamoth and a PRAWN Suit with 1 sub and still have enough room to permanently live in

Thats the beluga

[worldly valve]

Tho i do personally use super seaglide with the buffed seaglide sometimes

[errant cairn]

ffr

[worldly valve]

Long as im not doing a "puzzle" segment

[errant cairn]

Puzzles r lame

Sometimes

Portal 2 did a good job

[worldly valve]

Portal and portal 2 are incredible puzzle games

Here is something noteable

[errant cairn]

FFR

[worldly valve]

This mod os heabily inspired by outerwilds

[errant cairn]

Never played that game

[worldly valve]

Its been dubbed

A metroidbrainia

As your knowledge is the keys to progress

[errant cairn]

I've played Stray. Does that count for something?

[worldly valve]

I havent played that one

Anyways, there are a few puzzle within c2c

[errant cairn]

Oh. NVM. Stray is the opposite

[worldly valve]

Most of them arent so bad

I was also using puzzle useless when refering to seaglide speed

Challenge might be more apt

"Surviving"

[errant cairn]

You use your lack of knowledge, parameters, and extreme limitations to solve puzzles

[worldly valve]

Its comparable to that yes

[errant cairn]

Actually really interesting. Plot is sad though

[worldly valve]

Hows the dling of the mod pack going

[pastel comet]

like my current puzzle of how to use the drill

[errant cairn]

Haven't started yet

[worldly valve]

I look forward to your gaining of knowledge