SeaToSea

[worldly valve]

First file i found it super early

[rancid token]

I haven't I only winged it getting the|| hull blueprint xD||

im mostly onto the farming part to gett alot of stuff, but I did get|| a sample from behind the aurora||. just didn't wanna drop it just incase it disappeared

[rancid token]

if I scan that would it act the same as scanning the bunch?

[worldly valve]

I dont believe so

Its not super hard to find at least, rven without the glow

If you got the scoop just travel around the obvious areas

Until screen turns green

But you also might not habe my bug and they will glow blue

[rancid token]

ah alright

ngl also|| alkali vines were so hard to get for me, spend atleast 20-40 mins trying to sneak up on it untill I finially got one LOL||

[rancid token]

but thanks for the help and im go check around.

[worldly valve]

I dislike the clue to akali vines. Theres only so many things one can try at least

|| but i guess i can accept that the vines simply have occular vision lololol||

[rancid token]

Yeah

[rancid token]

xD

[worldly valve]

|| they description.makes it feel like still suit was the answer. But i just needed to disturb even more water and flow! Plants cant feel they, they just can visually spot you!||

[rancid token]

this is my farming simulator right now

[worldly valve]

Very noice

[rancid token]

Ive never used exterior grow beds more

[worldly valve]

(Setup another in the river)

[rancid token]

in my life

[worldly valve]

Same here man same here

I never used auto fatmer idk if its good

[rancid token]

||Still gotta find the module first, but im pretty sure its in a wreck and i missed it so I gotta recheck xD||

[worldly valve]

I think it required advanced wiring kits and those are an expensive ass r3source. My memory is bad tjo

There are 3 different main river techs

What module are you looking for

[rancid token]

||ive gotta craft the whole breathing set and etc before I can remotely go thinking about deeper||

[worldly valve]

Oh yeah

[rancid token]

||Think its the sealant module for the seamoth||

[worldly valve]

That is the big wall

So one warning i have for you actually

Do not, craft 2 water breathing o2 tanks

The one in your inventory will leak while in the river

[rancid token]

😭

[worldly valve]

And then when you swap, the other one will leak. And then you find out you used like 6k of air in seconds

Which can lead into some temperary soft locking

[rancid token]

damnnn

[worldly valve]

Espeically if your base depowers😬

Its all fixable and whatnot, but its like a small puzzle

As someone who always used 2-3 airtanks

[rancid token]

had to spawn the seamoth module 2 in after getting all the resources because it didntt show up in the modification station

[worldly valve]

It was rough

I didnt understand what happened at first too

[rancid token]

ive always been a 1 tank warrior xD

[worldly valve]

I firat just assuned i was u der water a lot longer tha i thought

Lol fair hahaha

It was a habit i developed in my orignal subnautica run

[rancid token]

now seeing that its almost imperitive for deeper diving

[worldly valve]

Because i died from air so often

[rancid token]

ive been using more air tanks

especially past ||400-500 meters||

[worldly valve]

Yeah its super handy. But again do not ever has liquid tank unrquiped in river

Its punishing

Have you found rebreather upgrade yet?

[rancid token]

||the recirculation mask?||

or is it another upgrade

if it another upgrade then I haven't found it yet, ||but good to know i haven't explored all the wrecks yet if so haven't even gone past the glass forest wreck as 500m think thats the furthest ive gone||

[worldly valve]

That is it

[worldly valve]

Ahh the glass forest wreck

Did you manage to explore it?

[rancid token]

Yeah it was very hard lol

But I did it

[worldly valve]

Noice. There is stuff in there for sure.

Tho it has a module i personally felt was oddly placed

[rancid token]

yeah

it was very oddly placed and idk if I personally would use it

[worldly valve]

|| Specifically the seamoth speed module. Its not actually very useul once you get it. Especially since it drains more power and the river power drain is a nightmarr||

Also speed itself isny very useful once you hit the river

[rancid token]

Fair enough

[worldly valve]

By the time you get it you should have done alst all the wide exploring

And it you do still have wide explpring...the azure seaglide is actually faster than the seamoth by a lot, ans that is before the glitch

[rancid token]

havent found the seaglide yet

definetly some exploring todo lol

[worldly valve]

You havent fou d the seaglide?

Like

The regular old seaglide?

[rancid token]

nah the azure one, my bad.

[worldly valve]

Ohhhh

Do you

Have

The battery

[rancid token]

Yeah

[worldly valve]

Have you...used the battery

In the glide

Because uhh

You should

[rancid token]

||got the laser cutter and one in my seaglide||

[worldly valve]

You will.like it

[rancid token]

ive never noticed it 😭

"the boost"

[worldly valve]

|| yous .oght not have noticed your speed increase but it did a lot||

[rancid token]

I just put the battery in there cause I needed more power on it xD

[worldly valve]

Hahahah

Put it in then swap it for regular whike moving

[rancid token]

but now that you said something its a huge increase LOL

[worldly valve]

Pay attention to the numbers

And uhh

If you want to go really fast

Make a or find your

Moonpool

And break it

Dive through the gap with the glide out

[rancid token]

holy thats faster

[worldly valve]

You will never be touched by a leviathan again

[rancid token]

break it being ||deconstruct?||

[worldly valve]

No

Knife it

Stabby stabby

[rancid token]

ah

holy

😭

with that ive pretty much beaten my 500% swimming xD

back to grinding the easy part ||THE POOPPPPPPP||

[worldly valve]

Super azure seaglide is a great for that

[rancid token]

I wont lie advanced wiring kits

are so expensive 😭

[worldly valve]

Yes🥲

[rancid token]

if im gonna make one im using it for something important

[worldly valve]

Yes they are

[rancid token]

I can't believe this whole time

i never noticed the speed change 😭

[worldly valve]

Hahaha

[rancid token]

im so used to the base speed

[worldly valve]

I didnt either at first lolol

[rancid token]

that ive never thought it changed

tbh ive had fcs installed this whole time

but never used it 😭

I just wanted the teleporters so I can go between bases for farming purposes

[worldly valve]

I hear ya

[rancid token]

I heard that greak was on a 40 hr play through

im scared on how long this will take me lol

[worldly valve]

You might be about to hit another wall tbh

The river is rough

Im not sure the intended strats for the river as a whole

I know i intentionally died there a bunch to make exploration "simpler"

Basically i decide if im.wxploring or gathering before leaving base

Maybe i should resume my hardcore run

[rancid token]

fair enough

im already at a wall rn unless i get the ||breathing stuff and depth modue upgraded||

[rancid token]

i presume so lol

[worldly valve]

The leviathan down there is easly the smallest problem😂😂😂😂

Not that banlny ghost lievathans are really a problem

I was...tryna look for the c2c wiki

Did it get purged?

[rancid token]

this one that I just found? ||https://subnauticamodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Sea_To_Sea||

or is it a different one, kinda just serched a for a wiki and that popped up

[worldly valve]

I found it lol

I advise avoiding it unless needed

I used it a little tho tbh

I think i didnt realise i needed to glass forest in my first file iirc

[rancid token]

im not gonna cheat with the wiki no point tbh

ive made it this far winging it and some knowledge xD

[worldly valve]

Hahaha

Reika doesnt like it when people use the wiki, and give too specific of hints

Its wjy i trynto be a bit cagey about some info till someone mentions it

Tho i am happy to help with the more "general" crud

[rancid token]

Yeah im not surprised to be honest can you blame reika though, as I said once before this mod isnt for the weak lol.

[worldly valve]

I try to be respectful with reikas wishes

I think reika and gr have a bit of extreme stance at timea tho

[rancid token]

this game relays on knowladge and well also just exploring everything, its not like the base game where I can make it to the lava zones with enough airtanks and health kits xD

[worldly valve]

I think this mod is a good chunk hardet than base game outer wikds for example

And i dont think everyone can beat outer wilds even

And thats before adding in that subnautica is more a survival game than an exploratory game

[rancid token]

also just wanna put this out there im using 3 bioreactors for the|| processor|| 😭

gotta power it up some how xD

[worldly valve]

There are also 3 thinga i take issue wifh the mod

We talked about 2 of em lol

The third one is my actual gripe

[rancid token]

lol

[rancid token]

what could that be?

[worldly valve]

Mmmm i bet you will know it

But i will wait for you to mention details

[trail ether]

wtf do you think the still suit is

[trail ether]

it is for very late game, for making the travel you need to do all over the place take less time

[worldly valve]

The main issue is you have azure sea glide and its much faster.

[worldly valve]

I realised after awhile the still suits name changed in updatednautica

But originally the only thing i could think of for the akali vines was a way to not disturb the water

As they are plants i figured they would have maybe some sort of pressure sense from abrupt currents

[trail ether]

that is not what the "still" in the name means

at all

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Still

[trail ether]

that is exactly how I envisioned it

[worldly valve]

It just feeling like.putting a pirce of metal/rock in front of myself woukd increase that

Its ends up feeling like the plants have eyes more than pressure sense

I also tried staying pwrfextly still beside the plant for a long while at one point

[rancid token]

||couldn't find the plankton anywhere so I just decided to go to the void and scan it, then i bring my seamoth to the void. gave up looking for it anywhere else and just thought that was the best decision. note they did glow blue also.||

[worldly valve]

Noice. I was told.my problem was a bug pre scan. You made a good call. Theres a few others spots for sure but void is one of the easiest and moet consistent

[rancid token]

Yeah, so far Im farming as much as possible so I hopefully never have to go back xD

took a break for food then back into the action of grinding my heart out

so far im really enjoying seatosea

[worldly valve]

Lyls typoed the word big😬😂😂😂😂😂😂

The void levathans arw scary because hard to dodge them fat boys

Even with creature decoys

Evert other levathan eventually gets mostly easy to dodge

Reapers have the big grab tho and that ls a little scary

[normal rune]

I think i'm close to the point of needing to risk the void.... not looking forward to it, cause ive never been good at dodging Levi's

and regarding the Wiki - i've been using it as a recipe cheatsheet more than anything else because it gets annoying to jump into blueprint list, then locker for an item, then back and forth some more, just to make a couple of the more complicated recipes

overall love the mod, just after a point the complexity sometimes throws me for a loop

and now I'm trying to solve the Lost River gimmick and it ain't going so great. I've got a couple ideas, but no success yet

[normal rune]

So I noticed a bunch of plants have slowly been accumulating at 0,0,0.... Any way to get rid of them outside of knifing it for a while? One is a nozzlevine which I'm not sure if can be destroyed

[worldly valve]

Theres a command to wioe them i cant recall it

Did you finish your mountains exploration?

I recall the lag was real bad

[trail ether]

you do not need to do that

[trail ether]

clear000

[normal rune]

Far as I'm aware, yeah. Don't have the game up right now, but I think the Exp Log for Mountains is complete

[normal rune]

Don't need to dodge Leviathans, or based on what I said I don't need to hit LP15 yet?

[trail ether]

the former

[normal rune]

Also, i did "clear000" and the frankenstein pile of plants is still there.

Am I missing something, or is it normal that the Ghosts are showing up as I'm trying to repair LP15's databox?

[worldly valve]

Ghost levathans spawing in the void?

Thst js a base mechanic, so yes

[normal rune]

aaand I've got another weird thing happening.... base in Safe Shallows, within 25m of surface.... A Warper keeps teleporting around me, he's even snacked on my fish in the ACU.... Ideas?

[forest valve]

dont think thats fixable, happened to me before

i just killed the warper

[forest valve]

u gotta be quiet

dont always be repairing

and make sure you have something to dampen your noise with you, (something not in the base game)

[normal rune]

Gotcha, then was just being too impatient and trying to repair all at once. I THINK I have the sound thing sorted already

[forest valve]

need a module of some sort, probably

[normal rune]

Alright, that confirms for me. Now just need to quit being impatient

[trail ether]

do you have infected fish in the ACU

[normal rune]

don't think i do, butr now you mention i didn't look very close

[rancid token]

just some cool thing I decided to do, may need some ideas to have fun with lol.

[sage crypt]

Hi guys, I'm kind of a bit stuck and I need a small amount of help (not too much because that would spoil too much). basically I need to know where the organic processor fragments are, its the bottleneck thats preventing my progression and I'm pretty sure I've found all the accessible wrecks I can. I already have half the fragments.

or the bio processor or whatever its called

[unreal flame]

They’re around

Same places as most other fragments

Just explore, there are more than enough of them

[worldly valve]

A few places have 3/4 of the frags

But scanning rooms, look for fragments

[sage crypt]

i've tried all this

i did a full loop of the crater at 300-200 meters with the sonar looking for wrecks

[sage crypt]

ok i found it

now where do i get platinum?

[sage crypt]

ok found it

so how does the bioprocessor work?

[normal rune]

Bioprocessor is unusual in that it doesn't use a normal crafting menu. Put the ingredients into the inventory of it, as soon as there is a valid set of ingredients it will begin processing with a constant power drain

In my experience, it seems that different recipes process at different speeds and power consumptions so be aware of that

[sage crypt]

this is really user unfriendly way of doing it

[normal rune]

Yeah.... I've been using a cheatsheet out-of-game to keep track of recipes

[unreal flame]

Think minecraft furnace

[unreal flame]

The recipes are all visible in the PDA recipe menu and are all essentially one-input recipes (alongside a fuel resource)

[fiery fiber]

Bloop .... just keeping the thread alive ... 😋

[normal rune]

I feel that. I've been so busy with stuff I haven't had chance to even play, so with the complexity of this mod, coming back will be fun

And considering the craziness that's been happening, it has felt like so much more than a week and a half since I last posted a question in here myself

[trail ether]

an update is coming in the next few days

[pallid schooner]

2.0 please👉👈

[trail ether]

no

that is not coming in a few days

[pallid schooner]

Understandable😔

[forest valve]

some bug fixes would be nice, thats for sure

[fiery fiber]

Awesome!!!

[pastel comet]

are there any known issues with Sea to Sea and the related suite of mods with items/fish duplicating?

right next to lifepod 6 there seems to be a spot where the fish are duplicating without much limit causing massive fps drops whenever i try entering that area

I also don't have de-extinction; seems this is something that can occur with it too

[trail ether]

do you have the plankton feeder running

[pastel comet]

and i note items too because also at lifepod 6 ||where the additional construction pieces are added like the planter theres a huge pile of tiger plant seeds||

i did at one point but dont anymore

i dont think at least

i think i built it then didnt understand how it worked so i deconstructed it before moving my base 😅

i dont believe i reconstructed it anywhere

[pallid schooner]

Will the update a major or minor update?

[pastel comet]

hmm I do see there is a item/entity cleanup command mod I might have to try that out. I did originally try to kill all the fish with gas torpedos and they came back though so that worries me slightly

[worldly valve]

My expierenve with lag is its a bit random

Usually once you know your lag sources those are consistent

But even how the lag occurs is always changing

[pastel comet]

well in my case at least i know its probably the dense cluster of like 200 boomerang fish lol

nightmare

[pastel comet]

oh it doesnt work on legacy i think, rip

[worldly valve]

That is so weird

I would try creature wipe

[worldly valve]

Also this i never used it but reika noted this

[normal rune]

holy.... thats a lot of boomerangs

thats an extinction-level event right there, they're gonna outcompete all the other fish

[viscid sequoia]

@trail ether Hi, I have one problem. In general, when I swim up to any large wreck, the game starts to freeze a little. But I can't swim up to this one at all. Fps zero. Why is that?

[forest valve]

known bug

no known fix

reika said theres an update coming in a couple days

to fix bugs

(IT IS NOT THE 2.0 UPDATE)

[viscid sequoia]

okay

[inland cedar]

Question
I know SeaToSea is an unfinished mod, is there any plans to add onto the story by adding more lifepods? or perhaps expand on lifepods || 14/1? || Or maybe a lifepod or explanation for where the || Salvage/RescueTeam came from/rest of them went? ||

[forest valve]

it is a finished mod tho

just some features that didnt make it in

and an update for c2c (NOT THE LIVING LARGE UPDATE) is coming soon by reika's words

[inland cedar]

Oh? I might have been misinformed 💀

[forest valve]

its finished, but some features are planned iirc

its not finished as in theres nothing else to do, but you can definitely play through it

(its not perfect tho, expect hiccups)

[unreal flame]

reika's mods are never truly finished

[trail ether]

how true that is

[fiery fiber]

Question... will new update require new save or anything like that?

[trail ether]

i would recommend it due to progression and worldgen changes but it will not break previous saves so if you have lots of time invested you can continue

that said some of the fixes will not apply retroactively, as there is no way to remove the objects that were queued

[forest valve]

oh, so its not just fixes then?

[trail ether]

no

it also has fixes

both performance and otherwise

but it is not just fixes

[forest valve]

woohoo

[trail ether]

speaking of bugs

i cannot reproduce one

ie this

https://i.imgur.com/qkR0Ukp.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/BCr8oj9.jpeg

works just fine for me

I suspect version issues

[untold kiln]

Interesting

[trail ether]

who else had this problem

[fiery fiber]

If that's the bug where money is not deducted. Me!

[trail ether]

can you try it right now

and then look in your log for errors

search the string exception:, including the color, case insensitive

it will likely have a stacktrace around it

something formatted like this

  at ReikaKalseki.Reefbalance.ReefbalanceMod.<Load>b__2 (SkyApplier sk) [0x00104] in <2cad26627e3341269ec5f71451061559>:0 
  at (wrapper delegate-invoke) System.Action`1[SkyApplier].invoke_void_T(SkyApplier)
  at ReikaKalseki.DIAlterra.DIHooks.onSkyApplierSpawn (SkyApplier pk) [0x00110] in <8558af6e3b11409db339f32e8d26f15a>:0```

but not that exact stacktrace

would likely mention C2CHooks, C2CIntegration, FCSIntegrationSystem, or something of the sort

[fiery fiber]

Will do ... but it may take a while uz I had reinstalled and restarted. But I'll grind away until I get there and try to pull up the log

[hexed swan]

What is this mod?

[forest valve]

completely changes progression of subnuatica

but it does need someone who has the ability to use their critical thinking and testing

i recommend playing after the update comes out, which will come out in some time

but its close i think

[hexed swan]

Thx

[fiery fiber]

Ok so I found this ...SEATOSEA: System.Exception: Could not find FCS TechType for 'CabinetTallWide'
at ReikaKalseki.SeaToSea.FCSIntegrationSystem.findFCSItem (System.String id) [0x0004a] in <8c3af32bdede4f34a90ced50875023c2>:0
at ReikaKalseki.SeaToSea.FCSIntegrationSystem.assignRecipe (System.String id, System.Int32 titanium, SMLHelper.V2.Crafting.Ingredient[] items) [0x00004] in <8c3af32bdede4f34a90ced50875023c2>:0

SEATOSEA: System.Exception: Could not find FCS TechType for 'EmptyObservationTank'
at ReikaKalseki.SeaToSea.FCSIntegrationSystem.findFCSItem (System.String id) [0x0004a] in <8c3af32bdede4f34a90ced50875023c2>:0
at ReikaKalseki.SeaToSea.FCSIntegrationSystem.assignRecipe (System.String id, System.Int32 titanium, SMLHelper.V2.Crafting.Ingredient[] items) [0x00004] in <8c3af32bdede4f34a90ced50875023c2>:0

[trail ether]

that is also indicative of FCS integration failures but it is not the thing I was asking for

the error would be added to the log around the time you actually performed the purchase

also check the harmony-log.txt in the C2C install folder

is it just a bunch of "running patch X, done patch X" or does it have errors in it

[fiery fiber]

ahhh ok! willdo

[toxic crown]

this mod is only for legacy for now?

[forest valve]

yes

[fiery fiber]

Ok here's a bunch of stuff. And apologies in advance .. I don't really know what I'm doing here 😛

NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
at Beacon.Awake () [0x00006] in <b20a3a5ada624fe2a1501d935cca65f7>:0
UnityEngine.GameObject:SetActive(Boolean)
ReikaKalseki.DIAlterra.CustomMachine1:GetGameObject() SMLHelper.V2.Assets.ModPrefab:GetGameObjectInternal() SMLHelper.V2.Patchers.PrefabDatabasePatcher:GetModPrefabAsync(String) SMLHelper.V2.Patchers.PrefabDatabasePatcher:GetPrefabAsync_Prefix(IPrefabRequest&, String) UWE.PrefabDatabase:DMD<UWE.PrefabDatabase::GetPrefabAsync>(String) <InstantiatePrefabAsync>d__46:MoveNext() CoroutineTask1:MoveNext()
SystemExtensions:SafeMoveNext(IEnumerator)
SystemExtensions:SafeMoveNext(IEnumerator, String)
UWE.PumpCoroutineStateMachine:MoveNext()
PooledStateMachine`1:MoveNext()
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine:InvokeMoveNext(IEnumerator, IntPtr)

And another

(Filename: <11d76d5f2da344218c391ad1f20978b4> Line: 0)

[SMLHelper/Error] no prefab found for fragment_11502_1; process for Coordinated Spawn canceled.
ArgumentException: The Object you want to instantiate is null.
at UnityEngine.Object.Instantiate (UnityEngine.Object original, UnityEngine.Vector3 position, UnityEngine.Quaternion rotation, System.Boolean awake) [0x0004b] in <11d76d5f2da344218c391ad1f20978b4>:0
at UnityEngine.Object.Instantiate (UnityEngine.Object original, UnityEngine.Transform parent, UnityEngine.Vector3 position, UnityEngine.Quaternion rotation, System.Boolean awake) [0x0000d] in <11d76d5f2da344218c391ad1f20978b4>:0
at UnityEngine.Object.Instantiate[T] (T original, UnityEngine.Transform parent, UnityEngine.Vector3 position, UnityEngine.Quaternion rotation, System.Boolean awake) [0x00001] in <11d76d5f2da344218c391ad1f20978b4>:0
at EditorModifications.Instantiate (UnityEngine.GameObject prefab, UnityEngine.Transform parent, UnityEngine.Vector3 localPos, UnityEngine.Quaternion localRot, System.Boolean awake) [0x00000] in <96e7a0f5e8ab4082be73ddac2f91bfd5>:0
at UWE.Utils.InstantiateDeactivated (UnityEngine.GameObject prefab, UnityEngine.Vector3 localPosition, UnityEngine.Quaternion localRotation) [0x00000] in <96e7a0f5e8ab4082be73ddac2f91bfd5>:0
at SMLHelper.V2.MonoBehaviours.EntitySpawner+<SpawnAsync>d__2.MoveNext () [0x000ef] in <21ae6a9b90624ee6a507253882306786>:0
at UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) [0x00027] in <11d76d5f2da344218c391ad1f20978b4>:0

(Filename: C:\plastic_workspace_unity\Runtime/Export/Debug/Debug.bindings.h Line: 35)

[SMLHelper/Error] no prefab found for fragment_11502_0; process for Coordinated Spawn canceled.
ArgumentException: The Object you want to instantiate is null.
at UnityEngine.Object.Instantiate (UnityEngine.Object original, UnityEngine.Vector3 position, UnityEngine.Quaternion rotation, System.Boolean awake) [0x0004b] in <11d76d5f2da344218c391ad1f20978b4>:0
at UnityEngine.Object.Instantiate (UnityEngine.Object original, UnityEngine.Transform parent, UnityEngine.Vector3 position, UnityEngine.Quaternion rotation, System.Boolean awake) [0x0000d] in <11d76d5f2da344218c391ad1f20978b4>:0
at UnityEngine.Object.Instantiate[T] (T original, UnityEngine.Transform parent, UnityEngine.Vector3 position, UnityEngine.Quaternion rotation, System.Boolean awake) [0x00001] in <11d76d5f2da344218c391ad1f20978b4>:0
at EditorModifications.Instantiate (UnityEngine.GameObject prefab, UnityEngine.Transform parent, UnityEngine.Vector3 localPos, UnityEngine.Quaternion localRot, System.Boolean awake) [0x00000] in <96e7a0f5e8ab4082be73ddac2f91bfd5>:0
at UWE.Utils.InstantiateDeactivated (UnityEngine.GameObject prefab, UnityEngine.Vector3 localPosition, UnityEngine.Quaternion localRotation) [0x00000] in <96e7a0f5e8ab4082be73ddac2f91bfd5>:0
at SMLHelper.V2.MonoBehaviours.EntitySpawner+<SpawnAsync>d__2.MoveNext () [0x000ef] in <21ae6a9b90624ee6a507253882306786>:0
at UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) [0x00027] in <11d76d5f2da344218c391ad1f20978b4>:0

(Filename: C:\plastic_workspace_unity\Runtime/Export/Debug/Debug.bindings.h Line: 35)

[Info :FCS Alterra Hub] [FCS_AlterraHub:INFO] Loading Save Data...
[Info :FCS Alterra Hub] [FCS_AlterraHub:INFO] Save Data Loaded
NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
at Beacon.Awake () [0x00006] in <b20a3a5ada624fe2a1501d935cca65f7>:0
UnityEngine.GameObject:SetActive(Boolean)
LargeWorldStreamer:OnGlobalRootLoaded(GameObject)
<LoadGlobalRootAsync>d__228:MoveNext()
SystemExtensions:SafeMoveNext(IEnumerator)
SystemExtensions:SafeMoveNext(IEnumerator, String)
UWE.PumpCoroutineStateMachine:MoveNext()
PooledStateMachine`1:MoveNext()
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine:InvokeMoveNext(IEnumerator, IntPtr)

(Filename: <b20a3a5ada624fe2a1501d935cca65f7> Line: 0)

Cyclops::Awake frame 19180

(Filename: C:\plastic_workspace_unity\Runtime/Export/Debug/Debug.bindings.h Line: 35)

[Info :FCS Alterra Hub] [FCS_AlterraHub:INFO] Loading Save Data...
[Info :FCS Alterra Hub] [FCS_AlterraHub:INFO] Save Data Loaded
NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
at Beacon.Awake () [0x00006] in <b20a3a5ada624fe2a1501d935cca65f7>:0
UnityEngine.GameObject:SetActive(Boolean)
LargeWorldStreamer:OnGlobalRootLoaded(GameObject)
<LoadGlobalRootAsync>d__228:MoveNext()
SystemExtensions:SafeMoveNext(IEnumerator)
SystemExtensions:SafeMoveNext(IEnumerator, String)
UWE.PumpCoroutineStateMachine:MoveNext()
PooledStateMachine`1:MoveNext()
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine:InvokeMoveNext(IEnumerator, IntPtr)

(Filename: <b20a3a5ada624fe2a1501d935cca65f7> Line: 0)

check of harmony folder shows no errors ... all patch and done

[trail ether]

no exceptions other than repeated Beacon.Awake() ones?

send me your FCS DLLs

[fiery fiber]

Sorry busy with work week get to it tomorrow

[floral stirrup]

Has anyone tried collecting lumenshroom oil with an item collector? It didn't work when I tried it

[worldly valve]

I never considered too tbh

Lumebpil is very bountiful when harvesting

Would be cool tho

[fiery fiber]

Ok so I had started a new game. And NOW .... it's deducting money correctly. However, you dont need the transport thingy ... as you get blueprints with purchases which I think is what you intended. Soooo ... it appears to be working now. Go figger.

And I didn't even change anything

[trail ether]

mmaybe a bunch of people did not start new saves

[worldly valve]

Oh is the update already out?

[trail ether]

no but soon

i ran into some technical problems

[worldly valve]

Ahh i just misunderstood this line then

[final wharf]

Hi, I asked for help in the general section and was directed here. I have encountered an issue with SeaToSea's Sample Scoop Module for the Seamoth. When the Module is installed, it seems to work as intended (Scooping up samples as I pass through the Clouds to the point is says it's full.) but I am having difficulty finding the samples in my storage afterwards. I previously had a similar issue on my last computer where the problem was how I was opening the storage compartment as I have mods that let me access storage without exiting the Seamoth and previously the Samples would only be present if I opened the storage from the outside. Now on my new computer, with (what should be) all the same mods and mod versions (Latest SeatoSea versions). I have tried to remove all the various mods that I have that should be affecting Seamoth Storage but while I was able to open the storage from the outside it was still empty. At this point I am not sure what else to try so I throw myself at the mercy of the Modding community for help. I also want to take the time since I'm here to say a big Thank You to @trail ether for creating this wonderful collection of mods! You and those who did the Voice Acting for the PDA entries did a phenomenal job adding such depth and replay value to one of my favorite games! Really hope y'all can help me get this working correctly.

[trail ether]

it is on the front of the seamoth

it does not add to the existing storage

[final wharf]

I had thought that there was something I had experienced before that reminded me of the torpedo launcher. I checked all over the outside for other compartments but didn't see anything. I can check again in a few minutes.

[final wharf]

Okay, I double checked and there is nothing else I can find that is accessible on the front of the Seamoth.

Should I wait for your new update and see if the problem persists in a new save?

I know if a problem is not super common it can be hard to replicate the bug to see what's wrong remotely

[normal rune]

To access it, I always seemed to need to float in front of it, slightly below eye level, and look at that flat surface in front of the cockpit. It doesn't change visually from what I noticed, but there should be prompt

[final wharf]

Hmmm, I can try that and see if I get a prompt. I did swim all around it looking for any prompt to come up

[fiery fiber]

Should be right there in the inside of the 'arms' of the seamoth

Approach facing the front of the seamoth

And if memory serves seamoth mod errr mods can bork c2c pretty hard.

[normal rune]

In the arrrmmms of the aannng- er seamoth

[nova saddle]

Hey, any news about sea2sea subnautica 2.0? 🙏

[forest valve]

it's a long way's away

also nautilus needs to be out of beta first

from what ive heard atleast

depends on reika's progress and nautilus

[nova saddle]

[forest valve]

seatosea is getting an update in a few days reika said

but to fix bugs and change the progression a bit iirc

[nova saddle]

I see, thanks for info

I hope it will go smoothly

Also I hope sea2sea will get more attention, I haven't seen any major YTber do a full playthrough yet

[forest valve]

dont think we're gonna see any longterm PTs from major youtubers

not really what the average subnautica player wants to play

and for people to solve any puizzles theyd just look at the video

[nova saddle]

All they show is "look, new locations and items," while Sea2Sea loses out because it's a complete redo of the entire gameplay and not just new bioms / items

[forest valve]

i feel like a reason no one is playing c2c is because it feels like a bit much

again, doesnt comply with the average player demographic

[nova saddle]

true, but in the same time people play "ultra hardcore" mods

[forest valve]

why would you make an advertisement of a product your fans mostly arent interested in

[forest valve]

seatosea is NOT a "ultra hardcore" mod

[nova saddle]

I mean that Sea2Sea is pretty hard and time demanding mod, and the fact that it's challenging shouldn't be the reason why YouTubers don't make videos about it. Seemingly harder mods have already been covered before

[forest valve]

i wouldnt really say its hard either

dont get me wrong, im not saying someone who just started subnautica can get the hang of it

but it isnt hard

[trail ether]

more than a bit at this point

[forest valve]

wooohoo

[trail ether]

for the meme not for any kind of actual intent to do it "properly"

C2C and what it is meant to be does not have the same "clickbait" factor unless you do what a certain someone did and claim it is SN3 and invent a bunch of story for it

[nova saddle]

maybe its time for C2C Gargantuan Leviathan

||I mean, there's a giant monster in the void, but it's not clickbaity||

[stoic pendant]

btw has there been anything done regarding that cause it still feels like quite the hussel to get the first

[forest valve]

iirc reika said theres an update coming for the mod which will fix bugs and change progression

[stoic pendant]

aight

thx

[forest valve]

not all bugs, i believe, which is to be expected becuase very, very few things, especially mods, are bug free

[stoic pendant]

obv but some quality of life fixes were nice

[fair badger]

That is true for the average subnautica player. But I love C2C because of how it extends a playthrough, and extends it well. It makes you explore the map properly.
My vanilla playthroughs would be done in ~10h and chilling. The regular progression is just way too "simple".
Aside of that, C2C makes you cherish your equipment, be careful with it, because replacing it, is out of the question.
And feels more "realistic".

Thx to C2C I found places in the crater, that I didnt even know they existed, while playing vanilla (no im not speaking of the C2C added places)

[trail ether]

Aside of that, C2C makes you cherish your equipment, be careful with it, because replacing it, is out of the question. that was explicitly part of my intent

the vehicles in particular

[forest valve]

TRUE

[trail ether]

i watched some lets-plays early on to see what kinds of things people were missing, to know what i needed to weave into progression

[forest valve]

i took care of my seamoth better than good parents would take care of their newborn

[trail ether]

and so SO many people treated the vehicles and especially seamoth as disposable

"eh just leave this here if a reaper gets it i can make another one"

or even using it for things like suicide runs

[forest valve]

and now its like "if i lose this seamoth i will kill someone"

[trail ether]

that too was a common finding of mine, and something I made sure to address

tons of YTers never saw half the map

[forest valve]

yeah, you only need a few or so biomes to beat the game

if you beeline, you will see maybe 6 or 7

[trail ether]

it is also for this reason that i made reading the PDA required

so many YTers finishing the game with a yellow 478 on their databank

[trail ether]

and even aimless wandering tends to miss many areas

even my own first playthrough missed half the mountains, 2/3 of the dunes, half the koosh zone, (and I mixed them up!), and most of the grand reef

[forest valve]

especially the smaller areas

[trail ether]

and there are lots of cool spots

[forest valve]

like that blood kelp trench entrance

[trail ether]

which by the way is related to the progression updates coming soon

[forest valve]

i was like "wait thats in the game?"

[trail ether]

a few new spots are involved

[forest valve]

woo

are some spots removed or

[trail ether]

do you mean the little one directly to the armored fossil

[forest valve]

as in no longer important

[trail ether]

no

[forest valve]

fossil?

mustve missed that too

[trail ether]

the one with six eyes and tons of teeth

just a head

has a crabsquid floating around it

it is on the west end of Ghost Canyon

[forest valve]

thats the grand reef entrance

[trail ether]

yes that

[trail ether]

grand reef is the east end of ghost canyon

[forest valve]

do they both lead to the same place?

[trail ether]

the canyon forms the crossbar of a T

the vertical part of the T goes north, over a drop to the gargantuan skeleton, ie the Bones Field

[trail ether]

the main blood kelp trench entrance to the lost river is the corridor

like a series of steps downwards, coming up on the Bones Field from the rear

but there is a little hole if you dive down the trench (from the shallower to the deeper part, ie facing west, you need to turn around), by a bit of aurora debris, under an ampeel (not the shallower one that circles around the large cave at around 400m depth)

that little hole leads directly to the armored skeleton

that hole is very useful in C2C for a reason i will not say

[stoic pendant]

write that down write that down

[fair badger]

You did great with the mod 🙂
And as a retired commercial diver (saturation diver), now only diving for recreational purposes and some rescues/searching for emergency services.

I truly apreciate what you did for diving depths. Even tho Liquid Breathing never been used in diving (there is patent registered but never tested afaik). I really apreciate that too. Great addition.

Maybe add the bends mechanic to drive ppl even more insane (joking)

[trail ether]

I am VERY happy to get an endorsement from someone with real experience on the matter

[trail ether]

also, it has been used...just not on a human

I can actually show you said use

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFFpMqs9kbI

[fair badger]

Well yea...I meant on humans. It was indeed tested in the 70s and 80s

[trail ether]

also you are probably one of the few people in the target audience who is likely to have seen that movie XD

[fair badger]

It has been used successfully in hospitals tho

[trail ether]

most people I link that to are like "omg 1989 how old do you think I am"

[fair badger]

The abyss...a masterpiece. Old but gold

[trail ether]

agreed

[fair badger]

I could tell the inspiration on it 🙂

[trail ether]

there IS a reason I made it pink XD

[fair badger]

Yup 😊

[stoic pendant]

but what would happen if you put a fish in breathing liquid?

also any specifics on where to find bioprocessor parts again? ive been to literally every shipwreck yet nothing

[trail ether]

probably nothing as their gills could pull frmo it

[fiery fiber]

Lol that's exactly the movie I always think about when using the liquid. Even with the whole throat up mechanic

[trail ether]

there are several more than are necessary, and most are in areas you absolutely need to go

[stoic pendant]

I always think of my cat vomiting when spiting it out lol

[trail ether]

like less than 100m from places you need to be

[stoic pendant]

bruh then im just stupid or blind or both

[fiery fiber]

And I agree c2c allows you to really see all the map. There's this one youtuber who talks about what's needed for sub 2 and he talks about these whole areas that were created in sub 1 that are never exploited ... ahem like a certain tree ... which has no real significance in this mod no sir! No way! 👀

To go on ... c2c totally addresses that pont and makes the game IMHO co pletely awesome and a joy to explore

[trail ether]

:3

I made C2C specifically because after my first playthrough in 2022 I was so disappointed that half the map was basically irrelevant

and felt that something as well-made as it deserved more attention

and that extended to non-map features like mechanics and entities too

[fiery fiber]

That youtuber actually mentions areas that got c2c work over. While I was watching I was actually getting ptsd from. The number of times I died in those places ... actually this time I found a cheese ... can't believe it took me this long to figure out but there you go but it took MILES of a certain thing

😋

[trail ether]

air pipes?

people love to act like those are completely worthless but they really are not

in the new update they have yet another new value-add

i will never make them mandatory like I do many things, but they are really useful

for example https://i.imgur.com/0Df4XIe.jpeg

[fiery fiber]

Ahhh you gave it away!

[stoic pendant]

apropos when do you believe to be able to release it?

[trail ether]

it is quite close - i basically need to finalize a few features and get through the parts I most significantly changed in my own playthrough

[fiery fiber]

Ya once I figgered it out I started dragging them everywhere. They helped me stop dying I. Wrecks cuz instill get lag I. Those

[stoic pendant]

nice

[trail ether]

i have not been able to find - nor have I experienced - any in-wreck lag but I did solve something that would cause every-second-or-so slight spikes in processing time

also one wreck DID have something very laggy in it and that is now fixed

however with the way worldgen works that will not apply to pre-existing worlds

[fiery fiber]

That's fine ... should be cool to see if it worked!

[trail ether]

one wreck I filled with crates that i scatter under physics, to fill a room

this was...expensive

[fiery fiber]

Only happens I. Wrecks anyway and now I don't care cuz I got my pipes anyway 😋

[trail ether]

so i ran a detailed sim and dumped their final resting coords, and added all of those to spawn instead

did that same thing for debris around another wreck too

[stoic pendant]

yeah I believe its worse with less RAM, I have only 16Gb and I also experience these lags in some wrecks

[trail ether]

though that area will always have some amount of lag on weaker systems as it has an extreme amount of what in graphics computing is called "overdraw"

[fiery fiber]

I dunnonwhy but I noticed it mostly happensni. Wrecks with the hull nanites but I didn't scientifically test that

[trail ether]

that makes it sound like GC

[trail ether]

those are mostly bigger wrecks

the ones I call tuning fork

though they are more nu-shaped

[fiery fiber]

Yep those

[trail ether]

really most of them are the same wreck mesh

just with different orientation and door/vent combinations

same for some other wreck meshes (eg mushroom treetop, pod 6, bkelp trench)

[trail ether]

also the nanites have no behaviors of their own

[fiery fiber]

Wait ... mushroom treetop? Bkelp trench has wrecks??? Known where I'm headed tonight!

[trail ether]

they are just recolored mushroom forest clusters

[trail ether]

you did not know about those two?

they are both vanilla

[fiery fiber]

I'm still at 500 meter level ... not quite penetrator to lost river yet

[trail ether]

the latter has that big flat girder spanning the trench like a bridge

[fiery fiber]

Hmmmm memory not jogging g

[trail ether]

the one with the rectangular markings along its length

[fiery fiber]

Ahhhhh that one

[trail ether]

same prop used in the aurora's upper entrance, around the corner

[fiery fiber]

Om om I remember

[trail ether]

the mushroom tree one has a bench hanging by its side off a cable

[fiery fiber]

I stepped away from. My last playthrough foe a while cuz life and just restarted recently

[trail ether]

some wrecks are VERY fragment-rich

bkelp trench and ozzy wrecks are probably two most

[fiery fiber]

Interesting. So far the most I've found is 2 maybe 3? I think

[trail ether]

the latter is so good i even added it to the exploration tracker

like 12 mobile vehicle bay, 10 battery charger, and 8 laser cutter fragments

[fiery fiber]

Geez that makes it a good titanium farm hehe

[trail ether]

or a good chunk of the unlock if you are on hard mode

which I always am

[fiery fiber]

I'll try hard mode after I co plate this run fully

[fair badger]

Lol

I wish liquid breathing became mainstream at least for commercial diving. But it's unlikely...if ever tested on human at depth they'll proly brake their ribcage just trying to breathe it in...the amount of effort human body is not made for.

It's already hard to breathe gas at depth. And the helmet helps...

It would be amazing to not have to spend weeks, sometimes even entire months in a compression chamber to saturate the body. And then after in a decompression chamber the same time or more depending.

That was the part I hated about being a saturation diver

[fiery fiber]

Oh also to co firm since I got you here but is base to base teleport disabled fcs? So I don't waste the money on it

[trail ether]

no that is enabled, though I changed how it works a bit and made it a lot more expensive

[fiery fiber]

Cool thx!

[trail ether]

vehicle teleport is disabled

but the teleport hoop is enabled

I used it in my dec 2023 playthrough

[fiery fiber]

I only have 2 bases. One in crags and one at koosh mountain border ... teleport will be nicd

Ya I co pletely agree with that. Don't need vehicle tport

[trail ether]

oh that reminds me, speaking of mod compat- that is another thing coming in this update

the first pass of de-extinction support

[stoic pendant]

yeah I also cant imagine feeling so tend with liquid in my lungs I mean the desire to spit it out must be huge

[fiery fiber]

Red plague c2c combo!!! Lol jk

[trail ether]

i basically can only add it as fast as I progress

since I am not willing to spoil anything for myself

[fiery fiber]

Ohhhh! Will those fishes be tied to certain biome mechanic in acu? Isbthat possible?

[trail ether]

yes

[fiery fiber]

Dood! Awesome!

[trail ether]

they will also be integrated into for example the specimen examination tracker

i forget its actual name

survey status?

[fiery fiber]

Cool!

[trail ether]

"Unknown large fauna, last seen near <biome>"

[fair badger]

The gag reflex would be a problem...but it would be easy to overcome it with training.

The problem lies with the effort needed to breathe in and out.

Not to mention, the current patent the way it works. The diver would have a catheter in their groin area, taking blood out to scrub co2 and then back in....

[fiery fiber]

I wish there was a way to makencrags and mushroom forest in acu ... that would be cool

[trail ether]

crag has no distinctive non-terrain "visuals"

mushroom is a biome archetype

[fiery fiber]

The crag things

[trail ether]

those are terrain

[stoic pendant]

urgh yeah that would require further research

[fiery fiber]

Maybe alter a like a creepvine plant that looks like the teethy crags

I k ow

[trail ether]

the rule for what biomes got ACU themes is basically whether they have a distinctive visual style defined by non-terrain objects

[fiery fiber]

I know ... but would be cool to see those crags in the acu I think

[trail ether]

same thing ruled out the underwater islands

[fiery fiber]

Ya makes sense

[trail ether]

others just got ignored because they do not have anything distinctive about their appearance, like the sparse reef or the sea treader path

[fiery fiber]

I make acu for every usable biome and I don't give af what effect it might have on lag ... those acu's are among my favorite

[trail ether]

biome theming should not add any meaningful ongoing lag

[fair badger]

The grand Reed is my fav acu theme (and biome). Wish we could hatch sea threader lol

[trail ether]

some boot-up processing yes

as it deletes all the vanilla props and spawns new ones

[trail ether]

grand reef is my favorite biome too

[fiery fiber]

Creepvine also doubles as free lighting too ... when I put windows all around the wals

[trail ether]

i like to build a base among those vents under the south ghost leviathan

that occasionally backfires https://i.imgur.com/QgqdM0H.jpg

from the apr 2023 playthrough

[fair badger]

Loll

[fiery fiber]

I'm close to that area now! Bit closer to the floating bombs. I wish I could lure those ghosting into the balls. That would be interesting. The onlyway to damage them since I configured them for highest damage reduction

[fair badger]

I'm a bit sadistic...I hatch crabsquids...I like observing them. First time I did hatch one. I was like "oh I'll have a squid friend" let me release it....it killed me

[fiery fiber]

Lol!

Baby ones are cute. Ngl

[fair badger]

Sometimes they attack sometimes they don't...they defo don't like seamoths

[fiery fiber]

Ya keep lights off

Helps a lil

[fair badger]

Even with light off...the ones you raise di not like it

[fiery fiber]

I used to scream and yell about broken stealth mod until I figgered it's limited circumstances and o ly for ghosts

[trail ether]

released-from-ACU creatures are identical to wild ones

including AI

[fair badger]

I had one squid, that guarded my base and never attacked...but for the most part I had bad luck lol

[fiery fiber]

Lol oughta be interesting when releasing the de extinction ones 🤣

[trail ether]

https://i.imgur.com/4DnHwgl.png https://i.imgur.com/jCnZZgY.png

[fair badger]

Crabsnakes become your friends tho....they make awesome base guards

Keep pesky stalkers away

[fiery fiber]

What??? Ima try that

[trail ether]

part of me likes the idea of bred-in-captivity predators maintaining some level of loyalty to you

but that would be implying a level of intelligence few species on 4546B could realistically have

[fair badger]

I raised some abyssal stalkers....easy platinum lol

[fiery fiber]

Maybe imprinting could explain?

[trail ether]

granted predators are typically more intelligent

[fair badger]

Built a base on sea threader path...they would hoard platinum near my base lol

[fiery fiber]

Don't they eat it?

[trail ether]

eat no

[fair badger]

No

[trail ether]

play with and fight over yes

steal from you yes

[fiery fiber]

That's weird when I see them take it it disappears

[fair badger]

But they drop it after a while

[trail ether]

i have seen them carry it around and then drop it again

many many times

[fair badger]

Yup

[trail ether]

and indeed i do nothing special to make them do it with titanium - it is the vanilla scrap-carrying code doing it

i just change their targeting priorities

[fair badger]

Similar behavior as normal stalkers with scrap metal

[fiery fiber]

That kinda changes things. I always frantically zip in to grab before them cuz it seemed like it disappeared So I thought they ate it

[trail ether]

well that and added the special effects on when they bite something, ie the stealing

[fair badger]

Yup. I love those abyssal stalkers. They look awesome

[trail ether]

I am very proud of them

[fiery fiber]

Mmmm baby treader and abysmal in acu

[fair badger]

Lol circus

[trail ether]

so proud back in oct 2022 when I was asked at work how I spent my weekend I mentioned them

[fiery fiber]

Ya they do look awesome. One of my faves

[trail ether]

the guy had no idea what the hell I was on about

[fiery fiber]

The whatcha callits it the rays are also awesome too

AND you made an egg for them ... for the abysmal i mean

[forest valve]

"yeah i made abyssal stalkers in subnautica which can pick up aluminum"
"yeah...., that's great buddy"

[fiery fiber]

Wait rays have eggs too!

Nvm!

[fair badger]

Jelly rays do

[fiery fiber]

Both are aweso.e

Weird thing I always really like the design of the eggs

[fair badger]

Ampeel eggs are proly the weirdest egg

[trail ether]

the guy retired last year, which gives you a sense of how much computer gaming he does XD

[fiery fiber]

Ya ...they're cool tho

[forest valve]

damn

[fair badger]

Yea

[trail ether]

...I say, having just been told someone here is a retired diver XD

[trail ether]

I added eggs for every vanilla species that is not pickupable

this is actually going to be a bit of a minor compat nuisance for ROTA

as we have conflicting eggs for a few species

[fiery fiber]

I once found an egg for biter last playthrough but haven't been able to find it again

[trail ether]

they have actual meshes for theirs so i would use their GOs but the spawn rules also differ

[trail ether]

general rule is eggs are found in similar, but usually more secluded versions of, the same place as the adult

and for biters that is most definitely accurate

[fiery fiber]

Wait like eggs for oculous or what's it bunny ray and stuff?

[trail ether]

rabbit ray has a vanilla egg

oculi and similar pickupable fish i never added eggs for

no point

[fiery fiber]

Ahh om I misunderstood

[fair badger]

Yea I don't think it's needed

[trail ether]

also I think i forgot eggs for the two crawlers

though they are ground-based creatures so would not work well in an ACU anyway

[fiery fiber]

Was just about to ask about those

Ahh

[trail ether]

they would all just collect around the bottom

[fair badger]

"Flying crawlers in an aquarium"

[trail ether]

making for both a very boring and a very unhealthy enclosure

[fiery fiber]

Rabbit ray has egg ... gonna have to go find that. My son makes me collect every egg 😋

[fair badger]

Yea it's vanilla

[fiery fiber]

Or an entire acu full of them

[trail ether]

it is green and has circular bubbly-looking patches on it

[fiery fiber]

Geez never found one

Ok

Will look harder

[fair badger]

Crash fish have eggs too

[trail ether]

yes

[fiery fiber]

Ya found that

[trail ether]

that was actually my first egg ever

[fair badger]

Kamikaze ACU

[trail ether]

found it in a cave

[fiery fiber]

Thatvwill go in safe shallow acu

[trail ether]

i cannot remember whether i categorized crashfish as predators or not

they are aggressive but they are not necessarily predatory

[fair badger]

I hate those fish...
Thankfully they can't turn around. So I just let em come at me...and swim in opposite direction

[fiery fiber]

Lol have them explode in acu and the feeder collects energy from explosion or sulfur buts from remains lol

[fair badger]

Lmao

[trail ether]

I did https://i.imgur.com/OBWMdM4.png

that boolean is whether it is a predator

[fiery fiber]

Ahh that's why holefish turned my kelp into shallows

[fair badger]

Imagine being able to raise Reapers....put some crash fish mixed in...let them explode Reapers teeth

[fiery fiber]

Rofl that would be amazing!

[stoic pendant]

fuck yeah finally got the bioprocessor 400 meters deep in a ||shipwreck in the crab squid zone||

[trail ether]

wait what

i cannot think of any wrecks found near crabsquid

unless

one came out of the DGR

[fiery fiber]

Sheesh! I always go reaper dodging for those

[fair badger]

Oh onother thing about C2C I love...Passive sonar.

[trail ether]

that is actually an ecocean feature

[fair badger]

Well yea...

[trail ether]

I added it because that mod also makes active sonar a lot...less safe

[fair badger]

It's good to see where Reapers are at night

[trail ether]

IRL submarines have the same dillema

[fair badger]

Yup

Sonar are awfully loud

[trail ether]

see the surroundings better...and announce your position to everyone within 1000km

[fiery fiber]

Ya I stopped using that

[forest valve]

lungfucker 9000

[fair badger]

Even just lil sonar from fishing boats are loud

[trail ether]

if you have ever played barotrauma there is a mod that makes sonar act realistically upon diving players

[forest valve]

if u aint far away from a sub sonar it can mess up your lungs

[trail ether]

it is generally lethal in short order

[forest valve]

im guessing it makes their lungs implode

[fair badger]

Tell me about it....

[fiery fiber]

Prolly why it misses off reaper

[trail ether]

I made the mistake of once putting a sonar antenna on my mountains seabase

that incident is also why i invented the stasis pylon, and is indeed the one referenced in that buildable's description

[fair badger]

During one of my jobs, I head my head spinning for hours...had to return to the bell and stay to recover...navy exercises doing their sub stuff...and we working diwn there

[forest valve]

we have "za wurado" at home
za wurado at home :

[fiery fiber]

Oh geez that musta been a barrel of fun! My son loves the sonar graphics and wants me to activate it all the time. Luckily reaper scream traumatizes him so I don't have to do it too much 😪

[trail ether]

this base https://i.imgur.com/F7wdc7y.jpg

[stoic pendant]

Excusé moi, ||grand reef near 2 warpers||

[trail ether]

I have an image somewhere from inside

standing in that glass tube

[trail ether]

so it was a leaked DGR crabsquid

[stoic pendant]

Nah I just forgot the name of the biome

[fair badger]

Wana make warpers stay away? Propulsion Canon. Grab something and throw at them...they'll go away

[forest valve]

you made him deaf, prepare to die

[stoic pendant]

I always just go ballin and hope they dont get mr

[fiery fiber]

I've yet to use the whatchacallit base fish keeper away thingabob. Would that work on warpers. I can polyalinine now

[trail ether]

found it https://i.imgur.com/NqW7LZ1.png https://i.imgur.com/2g3N90q.jpg https://i.imgur.com/iHsxOlv.jpg

[fair badger]

Well...when I want to mine a node and see them arround...I do that with propulsion cannon

[fiery fiber]

Base fish keeper away thingabob should work on reapers right?

Or at least the base stasis thingabob

But then you got a frozen pissed off reaper hanging around yes?

[fair badger]

Yea

[trail ether]

yes but it is less effective on leviathans

implementation-wise that is because their pathing is much "firmer", ie less receptive to forced redirects and sharp turns

[fair badger]

Just build away from Reapers lol

[fiery fiber]

Ima try it. I have lotsa warpers near my base. Very annoying

[trail ether]

I think I handwaved it ingame with an actual reason

[trail ether]

long enough to get away though

the main point was to allow safe entry and exit

though now that reapers can attack seabases that is not necesarily enough

[fair badger]

This is not true for legacy...but best defense is having a baby garg lol

[fiery fiber]

Ya that's was my thought. I waffle on which would be better. Mechanic that stops them from attacking fully or not. Pros and cons for both I believe. But lettingthem be able to attack adds to whole survival ambience

[trail ether]

reapers will not normally target seabases

though some things will explicitly aggro them

sonar is one of those things

[fiery fiber]

Army of imprinted gasopods. Fart attack can kill them off enough

[fair badger]

Yup

Or fill your inventory with gaspods...and drop em

[fiery fiber]

Hmmm ... injust assumed they would attack since freaking electros and stones always attack my base

[fair badger]

Stones?

[fiery fiber]

Err bones

[fair badger]

Ah those guys are annoying as hell...proly the creature I hate the most

[fiery fiber]

Sorry I use my kids nicknames for these things I forget

Ya ... I read they don't like lights and I swear sometimes when I flash them they turn around. I'm wondering if the light mod might actually help with that .... nudge nudge? 👀

[fair badger]

Lights or not...if you are in a moving seamoth...they get pissed

[trail ether]

you might like the names I had before i knew their names

during my first playthrough

bonesharks were "dragonfish"

reapers were "box art monster"

sandsharks were "wriggles"

[fiery fiber]

Lol nice

[fair badger]

Dragonfish is actually more fitting tbh

[fiery fiber]

How about dam f$$king annoyances

[trail ether]

it was about half silly things based on some visual or behavioral trait and half fairly obvious ones like "hammerhead" for ghost leviathan

[fair badger]

Sandsharks I just call them Brain Dameged dudes

[fiery fiber]

I rage knife them whenever they're around as I frantically repair my seamoth

[fiery fiber]

Lol!

Brain damaged youtube rage fish

[fair badger]

Lmao

[fiery fiber]

Ok back to work! Nice talking to you all! Have a great day!

[stoic pendant]

I think its really funny how you can charge the nuklear reactors 2500 eneergy spaces with anything else so now this thing is just a giant battery to me xD

[worldly valve]

Use more scanning rooms? Look for fragments

There are 3 in jellyshrroms

[stoic pendant]

got them now all good

[worldly valve]

There is 1 free rod somewhere

Its 10/10

Both my playthroughs used all of it so fast on bio

[stoic pendant]

now I yearn for sulfuric acid though

[worldly valve]

Damage ghost levi?

[stoic pendant]

@trail ether what is supposed to be in that wreck in the ||crag field||? Because the door repair doesnt work and Ive already read online that several others had that issue either, Ive already restarted the game, didnt fix it

[forest valve]

ooh this is perfect actually

just save and exit untik u have time snd reika does

she doesnt knoe the issue so she tried tk solvr it with me but i kinda fucked it up

and the error went away

bug*

[stoic pendant]

okay?

lol

[worldly valve]

Telwport command also works

Something important is in it cant remember what

Ohh reika wants to solve bug

You could put beacon down and teleport in and out

That way easy to get back to

[stoic pendant]

I believe its the ||sea moth phyto plankton module||

[worldly valve]

Might be i really cant remwber what

It bugged for me in all my 2.5 playthrougha

[stoic pendant]

yeah I'll set it up

[fair badger]

The door is perfectly repairable. It just bugs out sometimes. Save and exit the game completely. When you get back on...it'll work.
(Might not work the first time tho but usually does)

Or just use warp comand. Not teleport, it's easier. No need for beacons

[fair badger]

It is

[trail ether]

i cannot reproduce it but maybe if someone shares an afllicted save I can

send me the save file

[stoic pendant]

discord says it doesnt support that file type

ah wait rar does

work

nargh too big now I gotta get dc nitro for a month

[trail ether]

or break it into parts

also a teaser https://i.imgur.com/aDeA6dK.jpeg

[fair badger]

Ohhh. Idk what those are exactly. But I saw those plants today in one of the island clusters from "the void beckons" mod. And wondered what they were.

Couldn't take samples tho...proly author just used them for decor

[trail ether]

they are a vanilla prop

and yes only a prop, without even a collider

I made them into full species, like I did the pink bulb chain

and celery trees

[fair badger]

Nice!

[final wharf]

Oh wow! I was actually under the impression that 2.0 was a hard no. I had no idea it was still on the table

[final wharf]

I think you did a great job with that and I actually have it alot harder because I use, I think its Terry Tie's, ingredients overhaul that makes all items and vehicles take an enormous amount of more work and thus feels super satisfying and makes you super guard your tools. It even makes use of all plants in the game so nothing but voxel flowers are just decoration.

[fair badger]

Doesnt that, conflict with C2C?

[final wharf]

I was always scared of the Dune and am thankful you made me go there. I have seen so much of the map thanks to you! Its one reasons I had to make sure I complimented your incredible work here

[final wharf]

I personally love the Survey Mechanic in the PDA you added a few updates back

[final wharf]

They must not watch Black & White films 🤣

[final wharf]

Every version I have played, I get lag down to like 5fps in the mountains. It made one wreck nearly impossible to get into. Not sure if you've gotten this feed back but anything I can do to help you with this masterpiece by reporting data I'm glad to

[final wharf]

Yeah, I haven't been in the community but I figured out from my several started playthroughs that you have altered some mods if they are present like changing what you can buy in FCS and the ingredients of the tech pistol.

[trail ether]

that is the wreck I mentioned with the physics thing

the upright one

[final wharf]

There is a newer mod that I think is much more balanced and appropriate if you need it that works with legacy. I think its called carryable vehicles. It make a module you can install so you can "shrink" your seamoth or prawn to put in your pocket. I love this as I use the cyclops and Seamoth combo so I haven't really had as much ability or use for the Prawn since base game. It's nice to be able to bring both onboard my cyclops

[final wharf]

Will you be including those aspects in the update or is this something that will only be triggered if your running De extinction?

[final wharf]

We do have lil Gargy when Return of the Ancients is finished that makes sense

[final wharf]

I hadn't realized those were specifically abyssal stalker eggs you could hatch

[final wharf]

Does that include Reefbacks!?

[final wharf]

I love how many plants you added to the game! I love making gardens to sit in to relax

[final wharf]

Nope, I haven't run into anything that is impossible. It does require a ton of aerogel and stuff for the cyclops that makes it something to do after you get a bioprocessor up and running. But I've started about 6 different saves since I found c2c and haven't ever had any conflict. And I think the overhaul works really well with the higher realisim of C2C

[final wharf]

Yes! That one

I'm not a Youtuber but part of why I was asking about the bug I encountered is I am or was recording my play through with the possiblity I might release it eventually. Partly because like was mentioned before, no one does SeatoSea which I think is criminal for how good it is but I also have a couple mods I have gathered over the years that aren't on the nexus anymore I never see anyone use. Like the Brine Suit that combines the functions of all vanilla suits in exchange for having to make all three. Just an idea I've had I thought might be worth sharing here.

[trail ether]

i have no intention to allow that either

[final wharf]

Awe, can you make it optional? Without the Beluga in Legacy there's no vehicle that can take both. 😟 Or atleast one I know of

I always thought that was a bit of an oversight in the base game that you couldn't dock both in a single vehicle.

[trail ether]

no

[final wharf]

Would you have any suggestion that works with your intentions to do what I am suggesting of having the Prawn along for the ride? Like is there a legacy compatible version of the beluga, another vehicle or some aspect of SeaToSea I haven't seen yet? I haven't properly transitioned to the Lost River in any of my saves so I've no clue what all you've done below the surface yet. (Appologies if I am asking too many questions, feel free to tell me to stop if it's too much. I'm autistic and can't always tell if I'm being a bother. 😅)

[trail ether]

balance and progression takes precedence over both convenience and mod compatibility

without exception

any feature that threatens the former is going to be blocked, unless it serves an EXTREMELY high-value use case

unrelated what are people's thoughts on this plant's name? https://i.imgur.com/EV0aUqo.jpeg

it is getting mixed reactions

[fiery fiber]

Hmmm mixed reaction. Doesn't sound plant like.

water lettuce, water lilies, horsetail, parrot's feather, and sweetflag. These are filter plant names I found if they inspire any ideas. Ack nevermind plant name is good I was looking at the item! Doh!

[fiery fiber]

Ghost leviathans. Wod be awesome to be able to lure them into e plowing floaties 😋

[fair badger]

Name's good imo.

[forest valve]

mmmmmm

the ends of the plant look similar to uhh, some plants which have honey in them, the succulent plants that have something sweet, or it might be something else

[trail ether]

it is a filter feeder

here is its PDA entry

        <pda>
            Despite its flora-like appearance and name, tonguelilies are in fact animals not dissimilar to some sea fans on Earth.
            
            Found growing in small clusters in areas with high microorganism levels in the water, tonguelilies thrive by using one or more long glowing tendrils - the "tongues" that are their namesake - to catch pollen, bacteria, or similar drifting by, whereupon it is digested and repurposed to the creature's metabolism.
            
            Assessment: Possible water filtering applications
        </pda>```

[final wharf]

Tbh, I can see the mixed reactions as the spelling of the word Tongue always looks strange to me. I think that's a fine name. Have you considered making it two words instead of one? Might look better visually

[final wharf]

Btw, this reminds me of another thing I haven't praised you for @trail ether that I haven't seen anyone else bother with. || The Enzyme42 canisters. ||

I always thought it was wild that outside the medkits in the game for health damage there was zero effort or tools in either the base game or mods to help you treat or prolong your life once infected. For Role-playing and Immersion I would have thought that would be something that would have been added long before now. Thank you for adding it to your expansive Mod Network. If I ever do learn how to mod, which I might, I would do alot of what you're doing where you have modules working together to alter various segments. Again, just can't give you enough credit for actually innovating where others seem uniterested or complacent! 😁👏

(If you saw the last version of that message, this was my first time using spoiler tags. Not as intuitive on mobile.)

[trail ether]

I do genuinely think that I take a level of...artistic intent to modding that is well above-average

that is not just a SN thing

you should see all the times I say the same about MC mods, usually in the context of my response to people complaining about how protective I am of my mods' design integrity, in an environment where most mod devs have a stance of "do whatever the fuck you want"; I genuinely do believe that that is because I care a lot more than they do, and deeper than that (most of) my mods are more design-driven than most mods which are more "casual"

if you know the MC modding ecosystem, compare mods like mine with eg ExtraUtilities or Thermal Expansion

[final wharf]

Yeah, I could see that. I don't play any of the other games you've made mods for so subnautica has been my only experience. Generally, I agree with the notion of the "do what you want mentality" because it's alot easier and customizable for both the end user and the mod maker. Like you mention, alot of mods are more stand alone with little to no thought often put into how lore friendly something might be or how they might impact other mods and often times I find standalones put together can create unique playthroughs and game environment than any of the authors intended. And on the creators end its alot less of a headache to worry about compatibility and such. But it is very apparent that like me and others big in the community still that the core game speaks to you and I can see your artistic vision coming through. I have alot of artist friends so I am no stranger to the passion you display for sure. I can relate a little personally too as I am an amateur writer working on the same project for 20 years and still not very far in my opnion. That a big part of why I readily accepted your statement about blocking things as you're doing a much much harder task and you seem to be putting more of yourself in this passion project you're not really getting paid for. Artistic visions absolutely applies to your work and while I don't always agree with your calls, this is your baby, I'm just lucky enough you are sharing it with us all! 😁 You're definitely in a class all your own with the only other mod set I would say is anywhere close is FCS and that's largely because in this dystopian corporate state future of the setting it fits perfectly that if you survived, Altera would want you to keep working regardless of your health or safety. You take alot more time and effort to make things not only lore friendly but make rational and real world sense in ways others just aren't and I can't give you enough credit for it. It's inspiring for real

I do have two ideas that would be lore friendly that I am not sure if you have ever come across or are interested in one day tackling. I would love to see someone make an actual wreck for a section of the front half of the ship that breaks off in the explosion with the long range comms section. You could have fixing that be a requirement to getting the altera trasmission with the code to the captains quarters and have finable pdas that give a more solid end to the only other two long term survivors, CTO Yu and Officer Keen.

The other idea is if the phasegate parts survived the explosion and you could eventually chose to build the phasegate to "complete Altera's mission"

[trail ether]

the long range comms is on top

that antenna

https://i.imgur.com/PKSsLmJ.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/jhbxVlQ.jpeg

[final wharf]

Ohhhh! Yeah, that would make sense. Idk how hard it would be to add a section to the aurora then 🤔

Like an interior section

[trail ether]

when the ship explodes that thing completely breaks off

[final wharf]

Ohhhh, so it's completely fubar

Well, alternatively, you could find and scan it in the crashzone to build a more expensive and bigger radio. Maybe one you have to put on the surface somewhere like one of the islands or a surface base

Just an idea I thought would be super cool

I haven't reached the point in any of my saves but I am super interested to learn about what you did with the burning parts of the aurora being a new resource. That's brilliant!

[trail ether]

https://i.imgur.com/ZIZosDs.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/FYz8pSt.jpeg

[final wharf]

Also, not so much an idea but more an emotional thing, || I would love to have a way eventually to either properly bury the Sea Emperor when she dies or to be able to nurse her or atleast give her a hug. I often end game end up building in the primary reasearch facility and I always wish I could do more than just look at her. ||

Oh, so it's just hanging there

[trail ether]

also there is nothing inside here https://i.imgur.com/LrSyJug.jpeg

[final wharf]

Yeah, I figured you would have to do something serious to rework the ship for something like that. I have played with noclip to try to find the old entrance to both the lava zone and the reactor just to see where they were before they were covered so I saw a good bit of how hollow the aurora model is

[trail ether]

also coming soon https://i.imgur.com/PxqcuAj.jpeg

[unreal flame]

(extra utilities basically doesn't exist anymore. Quark is a more modern example)

[trail ether]

I do not know that mod

I know of it

but I know nothing about it

[unreal flame]

same sort of 'bits 'n bobs' type mod

[trail ether]

ah

[final wharf]

Not entirely sure what I'm seeing here. Did you make it so if you put an alien containment tank in a room above the bioractor it will link them?

[normal frigate]

Yea it looks like that

[final wharf]

That's awesome if this is that case! And it works perfectly for me as I always build my "Power Tower" with a minimum of three levels going bottom to top: ACU, Bioreactor, Nuclear Reactor

[trail ether]

the update pushes nuclear back in progression a bit so automating bioreactors was of value

[trail ether]

hey i have the issue for once https://i.imgur.com/Ry0cLWs.jpeg

and the trigger zone seems to be fine too https://i.imgur.com/18jl1Bf.jpeg

that white box

aHA

I found the problem

https://i.imgur.com/FY02KDt.png

https://i.imgur.com/gwCEq11.jpeg

see what i mean about how being able to reproduce the issue makes it so much easier

[final wharf]

Oh definitely! That's always a hard part of bug fixing is replicating the issue

[unreal flame]

ten fucking minutes

[final wharf]

Hang on a tick. How do you have a recipie pinned on Legacy? Is there a mod for that that works currently? There was one I tried before but it didn't work right.

[forest valve]

https://tenor.com/view/stantwt-chained-up-chained-gif-67266779391248431

[forest valve]

there is

wait huh

whered it go

[final wharf]

Oh no, did it get removed?

[fair badger]

Hmm what's that you are using to see battery charge in legacy? (The green bar around the tools sprite in tool bar)

[trail ether]

there is a mod for that

I have been using it since 2022

[trail ether]

https://i.imgur.com/vTabtS3.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/CkRVgLY.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/95TvD3A.jpeg

[fiery fiber]

That's real nice but sheesh got years of muscle memory to look at percentage 😇

[past geyser]

I think some text maybe not sure I get the hand text says what it does

But pretty cool

[trail ether]

my button system is graphical-only

it is derived from the cyclops light control UI

[trail ether]

I do have this but readability would be a problem for anything more than 2-3 chars https://i.imgur.com/B9dO1Rz.png

[past geyser]

Ya I know how that goes

[slim veldt]

Is there any chance SeaToSea could get a port to the newest version of Subnautica?

[forest valve]

i believe it will be done once nautilus itself is out of beta

not instantly of course

but theres also an update for c2c coming in some time, for the legacy version

to fix some bugs and change progression

you WILL be able to play witth mods you previously did before

i mean

worlds

wont fuck up anything in your old worlds if theres already a bunch of progress in them

[slim veldt]

Cool

[fiery fiber]

I thought reika recommended a new save though no?

[forest valve]

you can continue your save, but a new one is recommended

[fiery fiber]

Ya I been torn. I just recently started a new run. And now I dunno if I should keep playing or wait for new update 👀

[final wharf]

I figured I would just wait at this point tbh.

[worldly valve]

Ive been waiting lolol

So i can fail a hardcore run in some inanr situstuon most likely involving air

Bonus points for near the surfacr

[normal rune]

especially if its a "i was moments away from breaking the surface and sufocated"

Or a "why can't I eat?! I'm about to starve!" when you are just forgetting to remove the liquid tank

[vocal lodge]

What happened to the photogalvanic leviathan?
Was it scrapped?

[forest valve]

it sort of exists

for now its a bunch of tentacles

[vocal lodge]

A bunch of tentacles?

It looked nothing like tentacles before when anthomnia showed a concept

[forest valve]

ingame i mean @vocal lodge

yoinks you and ghosties under the water

[vocal lodge]

Swear it had a model made already

I saw a model somewhere before

Anthomnia showed it in a vid i think

[forest valve]

showed in a video =/= ready for launch

[trail ether]

especially when the video makes stuff up for clicks

[final wharf]

Is the existant version somewhere deep? I haven't encountered what y'all are talking about unless its related to the red eyed ghost.

[final wharf]

Thinking more about it, @trail ether do you have a list of mods your system blocks or disables posted anywhere? Correct me if I am wrong but wouldn't it improve the stablility of the game/engine if we remove mods that won't work anyway to cut down on the amount of mod clutter our computers are trying to run? 🤔

or any you already have implemented aspects of either currently or in your next release. Like I would asume there is zero reason to run the 'Better ACU' mod considering how much SeaToSea implements most of the changes and more to ACU tanks

[normal frigate]

You can check the source code on GitHub on which mode are blocked

Around line 421 in the seatosea.cs irrc

[final wharf]

Thank you @normal frigate! I think I found it! tbh, as a code rookie I never really understood and was a little intimidated by trying to figure out how to read Github lol 😅 . So all the Mods marked as true in the list are the ones blocked?

[normal frigate]

Yea im pretty sure thats it

[final wharf]

Awesome! that is exactly what I was looking for to improve my next run! along with finally checking the mods published/linked via this discord! My next run is gonna be even better than I thought possible!!

Love this community and all the diehard Subnautica fans!❤️ Y'all really rock!

[vocal lodge]

No offence but I doubt anthomnia does clickbait

Highly doubt anyway

[trail ether]

he does nothing but clickbait

[vocal lodge]

Does he?

(No offence jus saying btw)

[forest valve]

he does

doesnt make his content less entertaining

but it is a bit disingenuous

[heady light]

Coming back after a year of hiatus, did this mods continued to have updates ?

Last stuff I remember doing is the ||Void Accoustic Module||

[worldly valve]

The mod finished but is about to be altered a bit

Bug fixes and progress changes

All content creators use some.level of clickbait

[stoic pendant]

yeah also his advertisements for stuff like return of the ancients which were waiting for for like 3 years now

[forest valve]

rota is out

[stoic pendant]

the demo ._.

also I think I mixed him up with aci since he was the one promoting return of the ancients and also now call of the void a lot

[pallid schooner]

He is promoting Call of the Void because he is the lead developer

[stoic pendant]

ok

[forest valve]

im not sure if anthomnia can code

[final wharf]

I don't think so. I have watched a good bit of him as one of the people who publish alot of Subnautica content and I am under the impression he showcases other people's mods up until the Red Plauge. I think he is involved in the development but only so far as he is the marketer and maybe contributes money. He talks in his videos like he is in the dark and doesn't help create the Red Plauge, he is just helping it get off the ground. I could be wrong.

I really like the Call of the Void project and think its a pretty smart way to expand our map and playthroughs by including the void in such a grand scale.

Even better, unless I'm missing something, I would think whenever we get that far, Call of the Void should be compatible with the changes SeaToSea makes as they are adding in the void on opposite sides of the map

[modern ibex]

Will the new update be old save compatible?

[stoic pendant]

wheres the healing salve again, ive looked in the ||cave next to the small garden survivor base where I think its supposed to be|| yet nothing there

[trail ether]

ok I need to ask a question

[worldly valve]

There might be a base somewhere with some freebies, but are you looking for the plant?

[trail ether]

this update is taking quite a bit longer to finishthan planned, but - especially given I recommended a new save for it - I am not sure whether it is better to take the time to finish it completely or to just finish the most critical stuff now and rely on another update somewhat later to finish the rest

importantly, there will be some recipes around late midgame that are no longer possible until I finish the biggest hardest features

unless of course I just decouple them from those features, but then that makes those new features useless for when they are introduced

[fiery fiber]

I vote for take the time to finish it all

Btw are these gonna be added new recipes or changes to already existing ones?

[trail ether]

both

[final wharf]

I second taking the time to finish it. I am eager for the update but I can be patient if it means the difference between it being complete or not. No need to rush on our accounts.

[forest valve]

make thr best dish you can