SeaToSea

[signal karma]

nope

still not detecting

i gets stuff like stalker tooth but not limestone

even though limestone is closer

yea sandstone is 27 m aways and it still doesnt want to detect it

should i also reinstall qmod manager?

or just mods?

nope

reinstalled all mods

nothing

ig it doesnt matter that much

if i get prawn then its fine

[worldly valve]

So weird

Gou could

Check game file integrity

Ive...never had that fix anything

But your issue is so weird

[signal karma]

could it just be a change from reika?

that you dont see stuff like limestone or sandstone?

[worldly valve]

no

[signal karma]

then i have no idea

[worldly valve]

It doesnt sound game breaking at least i guess but like idk

I would still personally verify game integrity with steam and reinstall all the mods just to be sure

I know you did the one

Btw...you should build a lotta wiring kits

Like at least a small lockers worth

Ehh probbaly more about a small lockers worth

[signal karma]

||hey guys i have a problem. the sunbean didnt drop anything. like its just nothing even though it got shot.|| ||do yall think that if i spawn it with commands again that it will spawn the drops?||

[forest valve]

you need a scanner room to pinpoint it

in the mountains

[signal karma]

also how can i go below 500m? im getting crushed. (i got the upgraded mask and electrochemical suit but its still not enough.)

yea ig i have to make another scanner room

[forest valve]

might be related to some sort of floating landmasses underwater

[worldly valve]

Zemik

I think you fucked your file by saving when you shouldnt have

[signal karma]

i didnt do that

yea i got the warning but i never saved when i saw it

its just the scanner room thats broken

[worldly valve]

And your aurora

[signal karma]

sunbean and aurora are fine

i just could find the sunbean materials bc i was blind

[worldly valve]

Oh

Neat

Check if you can scan for them

[worldly valve]

Tho i wouod not overcommit to sunbean debris

(I thought there would be lots of comp chips and motors....i found 2 each. Shit tons of copper wiring tho, and so much scrap so so so so so much scrap)

[signal karma]

||i found a base in bloodkelp can you do anything with the reactor?||

[worldly valve]

No.

[forest valve]

nope, its just completely overheated and destroyed

wouldve been a cool feature to cover it in lead with a repair tool or otherwise, but eh

nvm that makes the place not dangerous anymore

[signal karma]

yea i saw a modification station there and it had something on top of it so i thought that maybe you need to restore power to craft something

[forest valve]

they are survivors, of course theyd have the same things you would

but no everything functional other than lockers is just decorative

[signal karma]

the medkit generators also work for whatever reason

[signal karma]

wtf is this?

[signal karma]

idk

this is the second time this happend to that locker

i rebuilded it just in case

[trail ether]

a bizarre occasional bug

usually seen with lumenshroom oil

i have no iea why it randomly changes like that

[signal karma]

can you place|| Liquid Breathing Recharger|| in cyclops? just wondering it could save me time while traveling

[worldly valve]

You have a cyclops already?

Jebus

That was one of the last things i got to

All together puzzling out whwre nano carbon fell consistently took awhile

Part of it was from some seeninlgy misinfo in this swrver actuallh

|| mayne seen nano carbon in the safe shallows twice? Its usually beyond either the island or the floating rock||

And getting the first piece is so hard, since it takes about 30 seconds or so from first hearing the sound to landing in the water

So if you arent within 10 m of the surfave, or doing what i didn and doing nothing irl for an hour while watching youtube for it to fall

All in all impressed

Nano carbon is easily the hardeat part of the mod

[trail ether]

it is easy when every time you cannot find something you justr spawn it in

[signal karma]

no i dont

i was just thinking

i was in void and im preparing to go to lost river rn that where i am in progression

no cyclops and no prawn sadly

but if i go to lost river then i could make it but honestly i dont think i would need it that much. waste of resources

making something like a small base in blood kelp might be better

[worldly valve]

You def want a 1-3 bases below and around 500.

[signal karma]

i have 3 already. one at middle of the map another one in dunes and last on in mountains

[worldly valve]

Below 500*

[fiery fiber]

Is there any way to increase damage of creatures. I wanna make mesmer bone shark and sand sharks to be able to one shot. Our at least 2 shot. I already raised blood kelp to highest and raised leviathan damage reduction thanks to already made settings. It just makes more sense that these things should be more lethal

[unreal flame]

Deathrun should be configurable enough to just have the damage multiplier enabled and nothing else, I believe?

[fiery fiber]

Can I combine it with c2c? Sorry I should have been more clear. Within the context of using c2c

[trail ether]

possible but not recommended

[wind notch]

Has C2C been ported yet, or is it still on legacy version?

[signal karma]

not yet reika is waiting for nautilus to come out of pre release so they can port c2c over

[wind notch]

Fair enough

[unreal flame]

if they're just using it to tweak damage values in ways so simple that the consequences should be plainly obvious i think it's fine

the only real problem deathrun presents regarding c2c is incompatible recipe changes

[past geyser]

well can't c2c make patches to modify recipes in deathrun to make it work

[fiery fiber]

Can't we just adjust the damage for the creatures within c2c without having to use anything else?

I love my blood kelp death traps ... waba bring other dangerous fishies up to parity

[unreal flame]

Because it’s not really within the scope of the mod?

[fiery fiber]

Ahhh ok

Wishful thinking then.

[fluid umbra]

I have the same problem. Nothing from the sunbeam rendered in the game. My scanroom marks where all the objects are on the terrain. But when I get on top of it, there is nothing there. I even used warpforward1 to get under the map to see if it spawned below it. Same result. A phantom scan marker.

[forest valve]

its around that arae

things spawn, its just not there

[trail ether]

I might have posted this before when it first happened (last year) but going to do it again, for those who have strayed kind of close to being like this guy https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/975264185086787634/1151549950476439552/image.png?ex=66fe18b6&is=66fcc736&hm=19c4c0c963ae8466304a56062b468e453608e15be452731c503690775dcf9ad1&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[signal karma]

Basically reminds us that we can't tell anyone where stuff is but only give them hints

[nova saddle]

Tbh with drone my first idea was that the mod broke something and that’s why I can’t craft it

[ripe topaz]

Good afternoon 🙂 I've got a quick question. Does anyone have any hints as to where the ||Kharaa Symptom Alleviation Canister|| could be? I struggled for hours to make the ||liquid breathing equipment|| just to not even be able to use it. Really took a toll on my progress 😅

[forest valve]

there might have been some other creatures trying to make a cure before they perished aswell

after a fuckup of not-so-insignificant proportions

[ripe topaz]

Hm.. If it is where I think it is, I've got no clue how I would get there without dying. If It's not, I'll figure something else. Regardless though, thank you. That certainly narrows it down a little more

[ripe topaz]

Question, this one regarding mechanics rather than any progression. Why do the fish in my ACU not produce any poop? I've fed them, given them plants and the tank is completely full and yet nothing's been produced. Any ideas?

[unreal flame]

Is the environment in the ACU consistent and appropriate for the fish contained?

Furthermore, I’m pretty sure only larger fish can generate waste

[ripe topaz]

So, I tried again today. Stacked two ACUs, added creep vines and metal, a few stalkers, hooverfish and a bunch of peepers for extra productivity. So far, nothing. No teeth, no alien waste.
The only problem the terminal is showing is a 'Biome not shared by all contained species' which so far I've found no solution for It's just kind of there. I'll try again another time, I guess.

[forest valve]

peepers dont live in the creepvine forest

[ripe topaz]

Oh trust me, I tried that too. Removed all the peepers and even the hoover fish, the message still remains.

[forest valve]

is the biome land showing creepvine forest land?

should be sorta stoney and mossy

[ripe topaz]

Not entirely sure which fish they would eat then, I only really see hoover fish and stalkers hanging out in the kelp forest

[ripe topaz]

It is, it became green after I started planting and threw some stalkers in

I'll keep trying more fish later, see which ones count towards the shared biome and whatnot. If that doesn't work I'll try with another biome with slightly bigger fish. My idea was to farm both stalker teeth and alien waste, but I guess I'll stick to scanning if I can't get it to work

[worldly valve]

Truth be told...i think its way easier to do a few poop runs and not mess around with that😅

[trail ether]

is the creepvine fully grown

[forest valve]

^

and stalker teeth are easy enough to come by

just gotta get a spot and stock it up with scrap, make sure a few stalkers are there

[ripe topaz]

I'm back home 🙂

1- Yes! I found out that you needed a two tier'd ACU a bit late, so I built another one on top and they are fully grown.
2- Yeah, they are quite easy to get and I sorta live right next to a kelp forest anyway 🤣 But I'm a huge fan of automating just about anything I can (proof being the dozens of either random plants or necessary ones sitting outside my home)
3- I've certainly yielded a lot more results just going to the sea treader's path to get more myself, but it tends to be a bit of a pain since I am quite far. The ||platinum|| on the side is nice though.

I'll keep experimenting with it, and if I can't get it to work I'll just stick to doing teeth/sea treader runs

Well, I fixed one problem just to run into another 🤭 But hey, It's progress!

Now the only issue I'm finding is insufficient plant variety.. except only two plants exist in the kelp forest: Kelp, and those stinger thingies, which I doubt are plant-able.
Time to knife every plant I find and drop it in, fingers crossed 😂

[trail ether]

there are two kinds of creepvine

[forest valve]

mhm, thats pretty important

both the creepvine seeds and the creepvine leaves plant differnet things

well its the same structure, its jsut that one yields the seeds

[ripe topaz]

Huh.. Well, look at that, it worked! No biome alerts.
I knew at first glance that there were two types in the biome (seed and no seed), just not that one of them was artificially farmable, at all. Always figured only the seed variant was.
As soon as I put it in, one of the stalkers lost a tooth too. Fun! Thanks for the help, I don't think my dumb ass would've been able to figure that one out (which apparently the mod thrives on 🤭 )

Also, funny story: I|| tried using the deepvine since that's what I thought of at first. Of course, it didn't work; but the funny part was that I tried eating one for the first time and ended up just throwing up everywhere. I don't know if I'm way too curious, or way too stupid. ||

[worldly valve]

I too was killed by new ppants when eating them

Actually it led to a minor bug

Whwre it took 10 mins to load after death

[ripe topaz]

I would like to thank Reika for the absolute heart attack the search for ||abyssoclase|| has produced on my person today. Thank you. I don't think I've been this scared of the game in a good while.
I found none but I sure got scared shitless lol.. I don't think I'll ever forget ||the giant tentacle pulling a ghost leviathan down.||

[unreal flame]

For someone who hates horror she sure does know how to make things terrifying

[ripe topaz]

I've never hit quit so quick in my life. I had already saved by that point, and I just full sent it all the way down hoping I'd come across what I was looking for..
I didn't, instead I received a lifetime's supply of Thalassophobia; which I thought I had already beaten by this point..

Regardless, fun experience. It's not often you get surprised by this game after finishing it for the millionth time. Although I do wonder why I couldn't come across any ||abyssoclase||, since I'm fairly certain I'm in the right biome. I'd have to go back there again.

[unreal flame]

You probably didn’t go deep enough into the biome

[ripe topaz]

Hm.. maybe. I did try going deeper than expected, but all it got me was just that jumpscare. I probably just didn't look well enough, not sure. I did find tons of diamond and quartz tho

[worldly valve]

Once you find it its super easy

[ripe topaz]

I'll try again once I charge my seamoth back and change my pants

[worldly valve]

Lol

[ripe topaz]

Welp, no luck. I suppose I'll try again on the morrow, see how that goes. Thanks for the ideas tho

[worldly valve]

If i uad a wish it woukd be to be able to make a base out there😅

[ripe topaz]

I unironically thought of that, but I had no idea how I would go around doing that in the first place. Popping a scanner room would've made my life easier tho lol

I really wanna find that dang resource though. I've been stuck doing nothing but grinding different minerals for hours 😂

[worldly valve]

So

Do you have the useful module foe the area?

[ripe topaz]

Indeed I do. I can go around and look.. somewhat safely without drowning, but the problem is just me not being able to see what I'm looking for. I'm either too dumb or something going on lol.

I looked between the ||500|| to ||700m|| range, even deeper but by that point nothing was there.

Deathrun prevents me for exploring for too long, since exiting the seamoth that deep drains most of my energy away, but I make do.

[worldly valve]

Ohhh you have deathrun going too

Eeeeeeeeeeg

[forest valve]

TRUE

god its so unnerving

[ripe topaz]

And I don't know if it's just me tweaking, but I could swear I kept hearing grumbles... Eesh, spine chills right there.

[forest valve]

yeah

its ||the abyss monster, the galvanic leviathan||

||an unfinished (to my knowledge) leviathan which you can see its tentacles either dragging in ghost leviathans into the void, or you||

[ripe topaz]

So I wasn't just tweaking... I don't know if I should be relieved or even more worried.

The worst part is that I'll have to return there for the fourth time since I still need to get that resource. I couldn't find it.. but I did get an inventory's worth of quartz.

[forest valve]

||it spawns at i think under 800m, comes from quartz and diamonds that slowly form there, in front of your eyes, which then slowly turn into abyssoclase that you can pick up pretty much the exact moment they appear||

[ripe topaz]

I didn't see that, actually. I'm surprised. I went there and stayed for at least 30 minutes twice drowning, draining power, drowning- 😂

But thank you, I'll try it again once I'm back home. My progression took a halt with that one, but I think I have an idea of the 'timeline' I need to follow in order to continue after... Unless I'm terribly wrong, which I could be.

[unreal flame]

You can’t simply go deeper after entering to get abyssoclase

[worldly valve]

The river is a rough time

[unreal flame]

The lost river changes are honestly pretty stellar

They alone extend the game by at least five hours for a first run

[ripe topaz]

Oh god.. And to think I spent an entire day's worth of playtime and I don't even have a cyclops yet.. Just how much more is waiting for me out there 😭

To be fair it could've been worse, I did get plenty of much needed help. But damn, getting progress done is a hard process.

[unreal flame]

That’s how it be, certainly

[ripe topaz]

Update: I finally got it. It took me plenty of reloads and many pairs of pants but I managed to get that dang abyssoclase. Hopefully It'll help me progress a little, I've been stuck for a while now.

[unreal flame]

Hope you grabbed a lot

[forest valve]

i spent 40 without a cyclops

or a prawn

the seamoth is gonna be your vehicle for pretty much half the game, little more

[ripe topaz]

It is a tiny bit disappointing to admit, but yeah. I'm nowhere close to getting a cyclops, let alone a prawn.. I barely even made the seamoth in the first place

Between the exotic vehicle costs from Deathrun and the added materials from C2C, I'll be stuck with the tiny sub for a good while

[worldly valve]

Tho when you can get away with it use the azure seaglide over moth for certain kinds of runs

The moth is so slow in conparison

Rven with having to surface for air a bit higher up its all around faster

[bitter slate]

this mod still legacy only?

[forest valve]

yes

reika wants to wait when nautilus is out of beta

because it currently still is in beta

[ripe topaz]

I somehow managed to build a cyclops. I guess spending all that time grinding resources instead of progressing finally paid off. The energy consumption is insane, but oh how satisfying it is to have one.. (29 hours in)

It was mostly a waiting game for that damn ||nanocarbon||, kept grinding over and over until finally the last piece I needed fell 🤣

[bitter slate]

i love this mod but its laggy as hell for all device i think

[ripe topaz]

Can't help but agree (at least in some areas of the map. It's fine in others). The main problem for me, I suppose, is having too many plants outside my base. I need them all for recipes but damn they really tank my FPS 😂

I've been meaning to get some of the FCS hydroponic planters or whatever in hopes It'd fix some of the issues (and also create a bit more organization, my base is a mess).

[fiery fiber]

Oooh! Give an update on how the hydroponics works will us please?

[ripe topaz]

I shall! I am not particularly sure if It works on the C2C plants, but I am hoping it will.

At the very least I'm trying to organize all my resources in hopes removing the dozens of lockers I have at my base will somehow reduce the lag 😂

[forest valve]

it should, they still are...plants

[ripe topaz]

Well yeah, but sometimes mod compatibilities are like that.. For example, these lockers I'm using don't seem to show the new modded items, so who knows if the planters work on the modded plants.
I guess It's all about just trial and error

[ripe topaz]

Good evening. I ran into a bit of a problem. While trying to get started on hydroponic planters and some other furniture goodies, all the FCS blueprints appear to be missing from the construction menu.
I'm beginning to doubt it could have something to do with C2C but I would need a confirmation in case I'm wrong.
I'm aware C2C limits you on buying things like benzene and whatnot, which makes sense. But does it also limit/remove the use and placement of FCS items and furniture?

For context: I'm on legacy, already have credits, an ore consumer, depot and the items in my inventory (a screen monitor, some planters, that sort of thing). I have the PDA from the mod and unlocked everything in the wreck.

[trail ether]

C2C makes you buy the blueprints

you do not get them immediately

[ripe topaz]

Now that is a very interesting concept.. how do I go about doing that exactly? Is there an added option in the PDA perhaps?

I will try to figure it out somehow though, but thank you. I was quite worried something had gone terribly wrong with my save lol

[forest valve]

you buy the item, and get a blueprint for the item with a custom recipe

[ripe topaz]

It seems to have worked now 🙂 There was an incompatiblity/bug (apparently) caused by the NoFCSDronePort mod. When obtaining the items immediately, the game would apparently not check something for the blueprints to unlock. I removed it, relaunched the game, returned and reordered the items and I was given the blueprints. Thank you for the help

[ripe topaz]

So, the Hydroponic Harvester unfortunately does not work with the C2C plants (figured as much). It does work with some of the much needed vanilla plants such as the acid mushrooms or blood kelp, so It's not all that bad if you want some passive generation (Although the Autofarming Unit does a very similar job for much cheaper)

[trail ether]

i wonder if the issue someone else was reporting a while back was from a similar cause

[fiery fiber]

Cool thx!

[ripe topaz]

Morning! I've got a few questions (love asking them apparently, sorry 🤭).

• Would it ever be possible to add the C2C materials to the Autosort Lockers for better storage?

-In the same vein to that question, would it be possible to add the plants to the hydroponic harvester? Most of the time you already have enough with the automatic harvester, but it would be convenient (and a bit faster).

-For future runs, once I finish the one I'm currently in. I know it defeats the purpose of the mod a bit, but could you somehow bypass the 'ban' on buying chemicals and other resources from the FCS shop, and even add some of the others? With a lower income from resources and higher prices it wouldn't be too bad.

[past geyser]

@ripe topaz well you can do all that stuff like autosortlocker with the json files in assets folder

Type_reference.json

filters.json

    "Name": "Stalker",
    "Value": 2512
  },
  {
    "Name": "Cutefish",
    "Value": 2538
  }```

you would go down to the bottom where cutefish is { "Name": "Cutefish", "Value": 2538 }, <-- add this { "Name": "Cutefish", <-- techtype "Value": 2538 <--- techtypes Int value } all this can be found in Smlhelpers TechTypeCache..

[trail ether]

if C2C plants do not work then it is probably FCS using a hardcoded list or something, as they are mechanically identical to vanilla plants

that is not something on my end to fix

as for buying resources, no, absolutely not

[past geyser]

as for the plants it must have a list that might be able to be patched

Filters.json { "Category": "Torpedoes", <--- name of Category "Types": [ 2119, <--- the Int Values you added to the Type_Reference found in the techtypecache 2111 < --- the last entry in the list needs no , ] },

https://github.com/ccgould/FCStudios_SubnauticaMods/blob/master/FCS_ProductionSolutions/Mods/HydroponicHarvester/Mono/GrowBedManager.cs

might be where a patch can be made

[trail ether]

I am not patcing other mods to fix design problems

[past geyser]

i'm just showing you where a patch can be made i'm not forcing anything

also not seeing any list just checks if its plantable so its odd that doesn't work

[trail ether]

and my plants all have the Plantable component on the item

[past geyser]

if anything its a load problem i would do like loadbefore thing in the mod.json

[ripe topaz]

I thought so, if you do manage to get a sustainable amount of credits you can easily skip most of the mod discovery/progression.
As for the plants, It's a shame. I would have loved to be able to produce at least some of the plants like amoebas and stuff of that sort

I could check how to add the autosort stuff but I'm pretty stupid (specially with programs) so I'll do my best

[past geyser]

well i gave you everything you need to understand adding stuff to the autosortlocker

[ripe topaz]

I'll give the assets folder a peep next time I'm able to. I reckon I would need to find the ID's for each C2C item and then add them there?

[past geyser]

TechTypeCache in Smlhelper folder in bepinex config or something in qmods i don't remember where the legacy stuff is

remember those are json files and you need to keep the formating

[ripe topaz]

I think I know how It should be done, thank you. I'll try adding some item ID's in the filters and type_reference and see if it works 🙂

[ripe topaz]

I seem to have gotten it to work! Took me a while to figure it out (despite how simple it was) but I managed. I also had to deconstruct the lockers in order for them to work, but they do

Now I just got to add all the rest of the items, which will take a minute

[past geyser]

Nice

[ripe topaz]

Quick question (I've been copying and pasting numbers for a bit now 🤭 ). Is there any way I can check the TechType name from items, in-game? Because I'm missing a couple of resources/plants, but they might have different names and I'm totally missing them (Mercury, for one).

At the very least tho, I made lots of progress. I'm able to store most materials now, which is amazingly handy

[past geyser]

Nice

Remember your number will be different from another person's mods

So if you share it they would have to change their numbers to match

[trail ether]

SML has a config to show them in the tooltips

[trail ether]

@ripe topaz example

just be warned that several of my techtypes are "synthetic" (borrowing the terminology from programming), in that they are runtime generated for technical reasons, eg https://i.imgur.com/evjRq44.jpg

this includes basically all ingots, any "alt recipe" items, all bioprocessor recipes, and more

https://github.com/ReikaKalseki/SeaToSea/blob/main/C2CRecipes.cs#L26

see all these delegates?

https://github.com/search?q=owner%3AReikaKalseki RecipeDelegate&type=code

[ripe topaz]

I managed to get the rest of the resources working with the Autosort Lockers. I had no idea you could show the IDs with the SML mod setting. Thank you very much! (Too much code brain too dumb to understand)

[past geyser]

Lol Good enjoy

[inland cedar]

I have... 23 hours... on Sea to Sea... || I've found all the lifepod 9 stuff, and impact survivor. I know of Lifepod 14, but cannot find it whatsoever on the mountain. I am at the point where I don't even think it exists 😭 Is there a possibility after probably 12 hours of searching for Lifepod 14 someone could just tell me the cords or something for it 😭 I've found the PDA on the Mountain island and have looked for pictures and any possible way (even checking this server) for exact location of it! I don't think it exists in my game at this point!||

[forest valve]

sorry, we cant tell locations

it definitely exists in your game if you found a pda before

[inland cedar]

😭23 hours

[forest valve]

dont worry seatosea is over 60 hours

[inland cedar]

Over 60 hours?

[forest valve]

yes

on one save

[inland cedar]

Could I maybe get a hint at the bare minimum?

[coral dagger]

explore the mountains near the wrecks (there are two vanilla wrecks)

[inland cedar]

Dang

I've just lost all hope

[ornate rivet]

I never knew that there were two wrecks in the mountions. I thought there were only 1. Maybe you mean the dunes have 2 wrecks. Because i don't think mountions has 2 wrecke

[forest valve]

there are 2 wrecks in the mountains

i believe theres 3 or 4 in the dunes

[ripe topaz]

Too late I'm sure.
But my advice as someone who's struggled just as much ( I think we all have, really) is to check every ounce of the map and mark off any wrecks you have already explored. Make sure to check the big wrecks and whatever trails of debris there are around the area too.

With the map mod, check every hole and/or caves you see. You'll be surprised by how easy some areas are to miss.
Read everything, look at everything, scan everything. Think outside the box, but not far enough as to get lost, common sense appears to be a big factor in this mod 😂

[trail ether]

common sense, curiosity, being observant, information retention/recall/application, and creativity

oh and not being lazy

especially of the "spend tons of hours to avoid doing the slightly more complex thing" variety

like all those people who complain they spent hours searching by hand because they do not want to bother with building a scanner room

[ripe topaz]

Scanner screen my beloved. It really helped a great deal finding resources and stuff.
Also make sure to check the PDA's Exploration Findings tab, It'll help you a lot tracking what you have found and whatnot. Usually It's something easy to discover

[forest valve]

so anyone with a basic human mind can play seatosea, they just gotta use all parts of it

[trail ether]

unfortunately a lot of people seem lacking at least one of those components

as this channel aptly demonstrates

[ripe topaz]

I lack in the 'patience' part, yet end up exploring for far longer than I should.. while complaining all the way 😂. You may question my methods but not my results, I still managed to get far enough in DeathRun (I still need to finish my run, but I'm getting closer)

[forest valve]

im gonna guess its information retention

[trail ether]

going off my experiences with ChromatiCraft, yes, information retention and application is the big one

page for item A says it is full of energy but this energy is trapped inside and needs to be released

page for item B describes it as being a powerful solvent

page for item C says you need energy leached out of things to put into it

people: "how am I supposed to figure that out! this mod is so opaque, you have to look at the source code to figure out how to use C!"

[forest valve]

so its like emc but power instead of emc

and inside a tablet, you gotta put the power

[trail ether]

no more like infusion

or kind of like AE alloying

[forest valve]

so charging it

[trail ether]

yes

[worldly valve]

Building a scanning room in every biome, while overkill, kill helo you find evergthing

[unreal flame]

Counter: be lazy in the creative/time-saving ways

Scanner rooms are both lazy and time-saving, for instance

[worldly valve]

I would say c2c is much harder than say outer wilds

[unreal flame]

All the best automation is wrought from a source of laziness. Leverage it

[worldly valve]

Outer wilds is a game i expect most people could finish

[unreal flame]

To be fair most people don’t really know what a “solvent” is beyond “word of a liquid”

[worldly valve]

S2s is a more niche experience with a smaller audience

Tho it has a few quirks

[unreal flame]

This too is the geologist XKCD

[trail ether]

there are a lot of people who are lazy in a very specific way, inthat they will preferentially spend hours on a simplistic task so as to not do something more difficult/involved

like it is more "work" to build a seabase compared to mindlessly swimming around

the same way it is more work to build a factory to produce heavy modular frames as opposed to handcrafting them

[unreal flame]

I’m aware, that’s the sucky way to be lazy

[trail ether]

but a lot people insist on doing the latter, even when it takes 60x as long

most of them also complain about how long they spend

a specific person who heavily criticizes both CC and SF comes to mind

[worldly valve]

|| the only thing i thought was bad was nano carbon.

The alkali vines werent bad but i never expected the anseer to be occular, i assuned still suit was needed most of the game. Then the glitches were a bit rough too in the deep biones||

[trail ether]

if thye were to play C2C I am sure they would do so as well

[worldly valve]

|| Using two liquid breathing packs is also the nost punishing moment of the game. ||

[trail ether]

that is never remotely necessary

[worldly valve]

||was rhe actual source of my soft lock first playthrough||

|| saved on making a few extra air bases in river ||

||well it would, but its actually thr worst possiblething one can do in the mod. Very easy to have no liquid breathing in river left due to it ||

[worldly valve]

So guys

How do we speed run reikas mod here

I guess first thing is calculate espected nescesary advanced parts and see what bare minimum rivering is needed

[unreal flame]

I do wonder how much you could even optimize for

[forest valve]

tryue

id say maybe a 50 hour

[worldly valve]

I bet you could get it under 10

I think srep one is get azure sea glide

Also would assume full uae of super sea glide for this

[unreal flame]

NMG

[worldly valve]

Nmg?

[unreal flame]

No major glitches

[ripe topaz]

I'd say much less than 50 hours. With previous knowledge, no other mods like DeathRun and or more difficulty ones, you could easily make it in less than 24 hours.

I'm not that experienced in the game, but some people are I'm sure. Speedrunners always figure something out 🤣

[ornate rivet]

Deathrun and C2C will make the game like 80+ hours long

[ripe topaz]

Yeah... I know

cries in nitrogen poisoning

[ornate rivet]

Reika would probably disable deathrun. Because it kinda makes progression longer

[ripe topaz]

It certainly does, specially with some settings like deathrun vehicle costs / exotic ones (I picked exotic for 'easier' gameplay and it still took me forever to get a seamoth). The bends are no joke, the energy consumption on exit is extremely debilitating, and so is pretty much everything else about the mod 🤣

[worldly valve]

Base locations would be huge

You could do a nmg run, tho i would argue ssg isnt nesvesarily a majot glitch

But that would be up fpr debate

I think one of the best spots for a basr is the northern mushroom biome rught by the blood kelp

That way you are super close to the island, dunes, kelp, mushroom,

Islands

[unreal flame]

Paging @wispy kelp

[unreal flame]

For sea to sea it likely would be, especially if it were used to skip anything

Speedrunners usually define major glitches as “glitches that result in significant breaks in the sequence and/or logic of the game”

Though technically there’s that one wreck with the non-functional repair door that can’t actually be opened

Unless reika fixed or made a workaround for that at this point…

[wispy kelp]

HAH

HAHAHHA

HAHHAAHAHA

AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH

YOU DONT KNOW.

Y O U D O N T KNOW.

IVE BEEN PLAYING IT

WAY WAY LONGER THEN 80 HOURS

HAAHAHAAHHH

stares in c2c deathrun (all the way up to 200) dextinction fcs (no this is not as good as youd think it is)

enhanced sleep

so i have to sleep

i have been here longer then you

[worldly valve]

Im not sure the super azure seaglide can really skip anything. It makea the river a bunch easier. Since you dont need the extra air bases/

[wispy kelp]

in the ocean

[worldly valve]

Seamoth rooms

Whatever its called name lost in mind

[unreal flame]

At river depths, azure doesn’t do anything

[unreal flame]

That’d probably be considered a skip, though

[worldly valve]

Really? Does the seamoth also get a massive speed reduxtion there

[unreal flame]

Nope

[worldly valve]

The seamoth feels so bad to use

And the speeduo is worthless

Since only useable after get to river and you dont need to go so wide

And useing it in the river is probably the worst idea one can have

[unreal flame]

Are you trying to multithrust

[worldly valve]

Its just a large risk unless you make 3-4 properly powwred moonpools

But no

It clearly doesnt give extra power until the sound ends

I only used 1 moonpool tbh, but also i avouded using moth as much as possible tbh its so slow

I didnt notice the azure didnt do anything that deep, but even down there the glidw feels fine

[unreal flame]

The boost?

[worldly valve]

Yeah

Extra speed*

I probbaly coulda used bettwr words

Wprst idea is a atrong phrase

A very high level of risk, is more apt

[unreal flame]

It’ll probably get reworked somewhat. Eventually.

[worldly valve]

Since if you do strand the moth...well good thing seaglide is fast

I know its all waiting for 2.0

I just felt the speed boost woulda bee more useful before going below 500

Speed is kinda eh Below 500

Coukd say to outrun levaithan i guess, but itle never see you if you have the thing

Not that the baby leviatjans down there really are threarening on any level lol

What do you think the optimal base locations are

And how few do you think one coukd get away with , with and without ssg

When i think about it, base near mushroom /kelp trench. Maybe another in the souther mushroom. Mostly a scanner base there.

The real base quanitity i thunk goes up in the river.

I also think there is a bit of luck involved. My first playthrough the new areas lagged tje first time i saw them then never again. The second playthrough had all these lines of mega lag spikes

[coral dagger]

there's a deep one you can get to from the mushroom forest by heading north, to the east of the mountain island, at ~350m, and then there's another one to the east ish of that? over the ridge of mountains, much shallower (around 200m)

[silk pond]

dang it took me 90 hours

[forest valve]

its fine as long as u took ur time

[ornate rivet]

C2C is still unfinished tho. Like there will be more content added and also once nautlius comes out of pre release it will be ported to 2.0

I have played some of the mod and uhhh. It's cool. Just wish i had the bz compartments

[forest valve]

seatosea is not unfinished tho?, its completely playable start to finish

[ornate rivet]

Some aspects of it

[forest valve]

i believe reika is thinking of adding some features

and modifying some

thats all ima say

[ornate rivet]

Yea that's what i meant

[nova saddle]

turn it into subnautica satisfactory

[storm anchor]

Sounds like FCS to me

[unreal flame]

I’d want to make it a different game, tbh

[inland cedar]

What would happen if I did this with a multiplayer mod and a friend?

Has anyone done that before?

[unreal flame]

Good luck

May as well try but there’s no way things will go smoothly

[ornate rivet]

i wish we had a c2c like mod with below zero

[forest valve]

not because it was impossible, this mod just needs a bit of brains to beat

but its just that content mods do not play nice with nitrox, at all

since nitrox basically has to remake subnautica's code from the getgo so shit doesnt hit the fan

[icy relic]

Yo, i've got a question, ||amoeboid samples|| are received from hitting ||amoeboids|| with a knife no? cause im not getting any

[trail ether]

I did not write the code in a multiplayer-driven way

there are many MANY places where I reference the player, and do things to or based on the player state

for example determining whether something is active vs "sleeping"/idle based on player proximity

or spawning things around the player (eg plankton)

or checking the player inventory or equipment, or damaging the player

it is entirely possible that with multiple players you end up with weird behaviors like plankton only spawning for one player, or player A being damaged because player B is swimming without a certain piece of equipment

[trail ether]

do you have other mods which might be messing with it

did you try a different ||amoeboid||

[icy relic]

I have 100 other mods, any idea which would be incompatible?

[icy relic]

I did

[trail ether]

you need to try removing mods in groups and seeing if it starts working

[icy relic]

ehh too much of a deal tbh

[inland cedar]

Dang

[unreal flame]

You’d need to list them first

[icy relic]

Of course, i was just thinking maybe she made a list of known incompatibles

[unreal flame]

There is such a list, yes

[icy relic]

Is it the one that keeps appearing as "mod incompatible" on the subnautica main menu?

[forest valve]

i dont think it shows on the main menu

it just secretly disables them

here are all the things that mods do that reika disables

[trail ether]

no

[trail ether]

also no

[fiery fiber]

Woohoo subnautica 2 incoming

[viral turret]

What qol mods do you all like to run with c2c? :)

[trail ether]

17/05/2023   6:23 PM                batteryChargeIndicator                                               
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my mod list, with my mods removed

[fiery fiber]

Ahhb with mods removed! I was gonna say ... thought cyclops mods and easy craft was completely incompatible

[viral turret]

Yeah I'm curious about easy craft as well

Oh wait nvm that makes it so you can craft from nearby lockers

I was thinking it was custom craft

[inland cedar]

I'm having trouble loading certain things? The ||wreck nearby Lifepod 14|| is still there, along with the Thermal Plant. But the Lifepod and wreck ||ontop of the cave|| won't load in, along with the base isn't here.

[trail ether]

what iother mods do you have and/or did you do something weird with your save

if so either way your save is probably irreversibly ruined

[inland cedar]

I have a Map mod, Habitat Platform mod, along with performance fix.
I installed the map mod 10 hours in thinking it be easier to explore with it. I downloaded to performance fix 10 hours in aswell bc my PC isn't the best. Then installed the Habitat Platform Mod 15 hours in thinking it be cool. Right now I'm 30 hours in and have had no problems till now.

I dont think Ive touched the save for c2c at all. Only recent thing I've done with Subnautica is switched to the newest version of Subnautica to speedrun a friend. Then I switched back to Legacy to continue playing with c2c.

[trail ether]

the map mod is not an issue but i do not know the other two or trust the latter

[trail ether]

did you ever save after a hot reload

[fringe wadi]

can anyone help me i am playing currently sea2sea and i have ABSOLUTELY no idea where to find azurite i found the blueprint for it and also some of it in degasi base but no more i just dont know where to find the material.

[inland cedar]

Wdym? I always save my c2c.

[forest valve]

reika is asking if you ever saved and reloaded your c2c save without exiting the game first

[inland cedar]

Yes, on accident. But I haven't saved when reloading it.

[forest valve]

good

u should be fine

[inland cedar]

In that case I will just stop using those two mods.

[forest valve]

perf booster shouldnt make any issues

i use it personally

if you wanna, you can test hab platform on a new world by spawning it in or something

[inland cedar]

Didn't work... guess I'm starting over.... I can probably speedrun since I know where stuff is though!!!

[fiery fiber]

Hehe ... speedrun c2c .... hehe funny 😋

[fringe wadi]

Do you know where the azurite is

i cant progress since i have no clue where to find it

[forest valve]

its in areas with thermal activity

[fringe wadi]

like termal geysers or lava zones

[forest valve]

not in ones that are facing down

[forest valve]

dont think ur supposed to explore the lava zones so early on

[fringe wadi]

yea

maybe idk im missing smth

wait does it mean i can harvest it thru geyser harvesters

[forest valve]

uhh no

you can pick them up

[fringe wadi]

so they spawn in geysers?

[forest valve]

on

[fringe wadi]

i still cant find any either my luck is shit or my world is shit

[fringe wadi]

do you mean those big one that go from below the ground to the surface like in safe shallows or those like that look like volcanos

[forest valve]

the thermal vents

[fringe wadi]

on these ?

[fringe wadi]

?

[forest valve]

not in this biome

ig

[fringe wadi]

this was grand reef

[keen igloo]

pretty sure the area that you end up in if you run the biome smokers command is a hydrothermal vent area

idk the area relative to anywhere else though

[forest valve]

there are atleast a couple other biomes that have thermal vents

which are are on the surface (not in a cave or smth)

[fringe wadi]

Then my save is corrupted i tped to there and there and guess what its ofc grand reef

[forest valve]

its not in the grand reef

other areas with thermal vents

[fringe wadi]

I used the smokers tp

[worldly valve]

your pda should have a list of biomes

that you have visited

if there is more to explpore they will let youy know

you dont need to 100% each and every biome, there is a bit of overlap for sure especially on some more basic tech information

c2c expects you to explore every biome

[fringe wadi]

On any biome i didnt yet discover it

[worldly valve]

what biomes have you checked

for azurite

[fringe wadi]

Il check dunes i havent been there much maybw just entered

[fringe wadi]

Grand reef

Like so much geysers to

Atleast like 8

[worldly valve]

good start for sure,

but yeah keep exploring

alkready at the dunes so just be careful of reapers

[fringe wadi]

Ill check dunes then after them i can get full squad of vehicles

[worldly valve]

oooo full squad hey>.>

oh you sweet summer child

[fringe wadi]

Ye the reapers are scary BUT NOT WHEN I HAVE 3 EYEZ (technicly 6)

yes sir i got it

[fringe wadi]

btw how do i get electrochemical suit

[forest valve]

we cant tell you how to get stuff, merely just hints, and no general locations

[fringe wadi]

yea found it

🙂

now im want to kill myself bc of the amount of prawn suit fragments and other

[forest valve]

please dont say that

[fringe wadi]

and second i CANT EVEN EXPLORE THE AURORA

I NEED SOME SHITTY AHH SUIT

[fringe wadi]

oh just a question the pda said my technology blueprints have been updated but i dont see anything new

[unreal flame]

Habitat platform simply adds a flat version of the rocket launch platform that has snappable points for base pieces, iirc

[forest valve]

yep

[trail ether]

how about you play the game and the mod properly

start by reading your information and actually playing the game rather than teleporting around to get struff

[trail ether]

ah

that sounds perfectly fine

[warm cedar]

Is sea to sea coming to subnautica 2? 🙂

[trail ether]

you are kidding right

[warm cedar]

nah i think it would be great👍

[loud python]

I think he means 2.0?

[warm cedar]

nuh uh

i mean the real deal

[inland cedar]

Erm

[loud python]

How can you make a mod for a game that doesn't yet exist?
How would you even plan for it?

[warm cedar]

I mean when its gonna finally fully realise in 2026

[unreal flame]

i'd hope early access lasts a bit longer than that

[loud python]

Sure but, you don't know what the game is like, you have no clue what mechanics it will have and what you could improve with mods

SN has a ton of gorgeous enviornments that you have 0 reason to visit, C2C fixes that.

Will that apply to SN2? impossible to say

[forest valve]

yeah it took 2 years for bz

[forest valve]

probably not

which everyone is completely fine with

also it would likely take sea2decadessea

[barren oar]

idk why that question made such a big fuss just press the subnautica 1 to subnautica 2 button and it converts it automatically

its pretty simple all things considered

[forest valve]

so true smh

not like its a different engine, and a different coding language, and a (i think) different mod file system

[fiery fiber]

You could probably use Adobe pdf converter to move everything over to subnautica 2 I bet

[trail ether]

I have seen you enough to know you are being facetious but there are a lot of people who genuinely believe such things

I have been getting that kind of thing for eight years for my MC mods

sometimes even from people who are trying to help

"ok i downloaded the code, where do I add 1.8()"?

[viral turret]

Can you get gas pods from the ACU?

[fringe wadi]

Im here again and with a new problem i managed to move on and now i have no idea where to find sealant can anyone help?

[barren oar]

☹️ ** **

[keen igloo]

you know that sn2 is a complete different engine, right?

like porting sn1 mods to bz is hard, so think about how hard that would be for an entire different game in an entire different engine

[mossy nymph]

Can anyone help by idk atlest hints

Im on my other acc

[forest valve]

well no, porting sn1 mods to bz isnt really too bad, since its the same unity version and all

engine alone, yeah, affects things, since you might need to remake stuff from scratch

but its also a different coding languge

[fringe wadi]

anyone plsss help with finding sealant hints or smth i didnt even properly visit aurora and im past the point when i finished my first game of subnautica vanila

[forest valve]

perhaps alterra is related to it somehow

[fringe wadi]

thanks

[fringe wadi]

tbh im still looking 😢

[forest valve]

its in one of the wrecks

[fringe wadi]

Thanks

[mossy nymph]

Im doing great i am almost in i think half of the wrecks at least vanilla ones

[fringe wadi]

is it in moded wrecks or what i literaly searched most of the wrecks from vanilla since ik where they are and i still dont have it

[fringe wadi]

is it in one of the modded wrecks or what?

anyone else can tell me where to find sealant

[forest valve]

idk

[fringe wadi]

bro i searched i think most of them

only not those in safe shallows and kelp

every biome other than those ive been to

[forest valve]

its a modded wreck

[fringe wadi]

thanks can i know what biome?

[forest valve]

no

[fringe wadi]

atleast is it in the new biome bc i dont really know where they are

[forest valve]

no

not sure how much i can tell you

but its not somewhere thats really safe

[fringe wadi]

okays

i have 4/5 biomes on my mind im gonna go look at them

[worldly valve]

I said you wwre a sweet summer child🤭

[fringe wadi]

hmmm

sounds

ok

[fringe wadi]

yo question do the moded wrecks apear on minimap mod

[forest valve]

yeah, since they are still just vanilla wrecks but modified

[fringe wadi]

thanks

[worldly valve]

How had your plant collecting and scanning been going?

Something that will help you as a general strat janus

Cobine the pda list of biomes

With scanning rooms

Its a bit tedious

You can easily spend an hour combing a biome depending on biome.ecen with it

The earlier biomes arent as critical to comb

Lots more oberlap

Even if you get the sealant

You may find you need more than that

Getting to 500m is the bigfezt challenge in the mod

If a biome has more to explore

It has an organge line of text saying there is more

The main ways to get techs are

1.scanning shit

2. Gathering new resources you havent had

3. Databoxes

4. Couple plot points

[fringe wadi]

BRO I KNOW EVERY TIME I FEEL LIKE IM ABOUT TO GET LIQUID BREATHING PRAWN AND EVERYTHING BASICLY GAME SPITS IN MY FACE THEN SHITS ON IT

[worldly valve]

So uh

Stop dreamin about the prawn suit

Is my adbite hahaha

Its gonna be a minute

[fringe wadi]

im currently exploring 5 very safe bioms

[worldly valve]

The more dangerous the biome the more lucrative it usually is

Again dont forget to check the biome in pda

To make sure its not ckmplete

If its complete not much reason to be here

[fringe wadi]

im gonna do dunes

[trail ether]

things would be a lot less painful if you did something other than complain every time something was not immediately obvious, and actually did things like use the information you have as opposed to asking for help with literally every little thing

[trail ether]

my mods are not designed for 12 year olds, especially ones that play as if they are illiterate

[forest valve]

yeah, the mod does need atleast somewhat of a good thought process, including reading information and such

[worldly valve]

I think

You could hve a friendlier tone in your messages. I agree their phrasing is rather annoying and has a young side tone to it

[loud python]

Yeah, C2C is a constant barrage of "Just ONE more thing so you can reach that location. One more bro. I promise, just ONE MORE."

[forest valve]

..no

[inland cedar]

I think it's just the same question over and over again. People just need to explore and take time reading and thinking. (Yes, I just asked where something was last week before realizing it's a 60+ hour game and Sea To Sea means you go from one side of the sea to another 😭) This has been a channel/thread? Idk what's this called, for over a year now. Imagine how many questions have been asked and how many time Reika has answered them.

[trail ether]

It is not simply repetition - a huge fraction of players refuse - either explicitly or effectively - to do things like read databank entries or explore areas without certain equipment, and an equally large or even larger fraction (with heavy overlap) has the first and only instinct of "new requirement? look up/ask where to find it", ie not only do they not bother to work anything out on their own, it never occurs to them to do so. Arguably worse still are the numerous people who have no interest in what the point of C2C actually is, and instead just want to "try the cool stuff", or saw That One YouTube Video and want to see "the cool new leviathan"

and as is pretty typical for me, I would rather people not play the mod at all than not do it at least somewhat "properly"

not only because people who "like" some bastardized "just looked up coords and teleported to the databoxes" version of the experience tend to be very aggravating in the long term - this is the primary demographic who continuously demands the most ridiculous shit and reacts most poorly to its refusal - but also because it irks me on a very deep level to see something I put as much time into as I did go largely ignored because a large number of people are so lazy or stupid that even something like table coral is something they need to be told to harvest because there is not a flashing neon arrow saying to do so

[trail ether]

also you are close on the basis of the name - it is indeed a reference to the fact that you will need to cover much more of the map, akin to how someone might say "from top to bottom", but playing on the "From Sea To Sea (to Sea)" 'slogan' used to refer to Canada's huge size and span https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_mari_usque_ad_mare

[fringe wadi]

ive been looking for a sealant for around 4 hours now

ive given up now i plan to slowly fully visit all biomes

small question tho do the laser upgrade is automaticly instaled or not

i got it havent tested it tho

[warm cedar]

yes you can automaticly use when you picked it up

[fringe wadi]

k

[worldly valve]

How is your plant life collecting going janus?

[inland cedar]

Wow, that's pretty cool. I didn't know that.

[forest valve]

history lesson with reika

meant to turn off ping

[fringe wadi]

im not trying to ask any questions but i need a hint i found a modded wreck from i think seatosea in ||mountains|| and i scanned a blueprint box inside i have absolutely no idea on how to get to it i tried for 30 minutes already and i just cant. The wreck is ||690 1193 at ~340 meters. ||

i tried using the laser cutter looking for possible space to move boxes around and i didnt have any luck

[fringe wadi]

maybe you can help?

note: if you dont recognise this wreck it might be from altera hub if thats true ill delete it here and post there

[forest valve]

the alterrahub wreck has a fancy looking signal on it

as soon as you create a world

[forest valve]

maybe you can try figure it out yourself?

[mossy nymph]

Ive spent so long on that i see fragment in the vents i checked where they go to and i still cant figure it out

[trail ether]

C2C adds an additional wreck when FCS is installed

it is used to gate the entry to FCS

[fringe wadi]

oh then i got it i found both 1 the main with ping and one with schematics for some ||for some drone platform and smth||

then this wreck is c2c

[trail ether]

it has three BP boxes in it

for the core "getting started" FCS machines

[fringe wadi]

yea i found it already

then the wreck is c2c but i still cant find the entrance i saw the box thru scaning room and now i cant find an entrance

i have a feeling that i checked everywhere

can i get any help

plz

[warm cedar]

Why cant we use teleport stuff in sea to sea?

[forest valve]

u mean commands or fcs

[warm cedar]

fcs

[fiery fiber]

It kinda defeats alot of thr pont of c2c. But I thought he allowed base to base teleporters to work

[forest valve]

yeah, reika did allow that

[ornate rivet]

Is slot extender allowed?

[keen igloo]

i mean yeah she did because that isnt really that gamebreaking

[forest valve]

dont think so

[ornate rivet]

but does it really matter if you use it?

[unreal flame]

Discouraged, but not actively disabled

[warm cedar]

Mb then last time i played sea to sea it wasnt working

[warm cedar]

What is the requirerment for sunbeam?

[worldly valve]

I cannot remember

It will come if you keep doin shit

[forest valve]

u just visit the qep i think

comes after 5 ingame days

[warm cedar]

I was there I have 14+ playtime on that world and still no sunbeam

[worldly valve]

I dont think its the qep

Could be wrong

I just think i tend to do tjat early and it took awhile for sunbeam to go boom

[unreal flame]

you need to trigger all of the radio messages first

I believe one of the requirements for them is having built a seamoth

[sharp herald]

Hey guy, need some help using the plankton scoop. I got the bp and found some plankton, but when i drive thru it or stay directly inside, nothing happens. I cant use it directly either (like the defense module) am i doing something wrong?

[worldly valve]

if its equiped it will work

keep in mind you need to check the scoops sotrasge note thr regular

[sharp herald]

Hmm i tried that but the scoop module doesent show a storage module, so i thought i needed aregular as well...

Does it need to be in a specific slot maybe?

[worldly valve]

the scoop should be on ther front

if you check the nose of the moth its there

[sharp herald]

Oh man... im stupid, thanks. I looked at the sides where the storage normally is xD

[viral turret]

How do I make the compass more stable? it's swinging around like crazy. I thought I tweaked something in the config to make it better but it's not working on my new save file

[viral turret]

I restarted the game after crafting it and that helped.
Went to the eco ocean config and set the magnetic anomaly frequency to 0.01, left the game, set it to 0.00 and then went back in. It stabilized shortly after

Not sure if you need to set it to 0.01 first or not but that's what worked for me

[viral turret]

nvm it's doing it again

[trail ether]

if you have C2C it is clamped

you cannot turn it off completely

[viral turret]

:(

You torment me

(sarcasm am not actually mad)

[warm cedar]

Is the compass even useful besides for 2 spots?

[sharp herald]

Does the rock crusher in fact NOT work on the meteroite, or am i using it wrong? Had a powered base right next to it, but no mining, no activity..

[forest valve]

it does not work on the meteor

would break progression really quick

[sharp herald]

I kind thought so just wanted to make sure. Thx

[viral turret]

I'm not sure what you mean. Is it not always useful to know where you are going?

[trail ether]

there are other ways of navigation besides memorizing "follow the arrow"

[viral turret]

I use it if I'm heading from one place to another. It's not fun thinking I'm going one way and then it turns out I'm going another

[trail ether]

so navigate

[viral turret]

Yeah the compass helps me do that

[sharp herald]

So just to make sure im not just incapable of using it: got the breathing fluid, the basepiece and the circulation mask. I loaded the base piece with 2700s fluid but cant fill my o2 tank with it. This means im still missing a bp for a special tank right?

[viral turret]

Wait don't you literally have the map mod in your mod list why can't you just "navigate"

[trail ether]

there are other ways

and the nerfing of the compass is done specifically because of the kind of reaction you are having now

ie a seeming complete blindness to the ability to know where you are or are doing without being explicitly told

[trail ether]

yes

[trail ether]

I use it in development

[worldly valve]

Subnauticas map is pretty easy to get flipped around in

If compass trohnles is that bad i would advise setting up beacons everywhere

Or use the many in game beacons to triangulate

In caves use the liggt ring thingy

[trail ether]

it really is not, at least not on a large scale

and having to pay attention to where you are also means you notice more

[viral turret]

Why are you assuming this I just want it to accurately tell me if I'm going north east
I don't stare at the compass when going from place to place
I orient myself and then go
I get sidetracked constantly
This is just strange to me

[fiery fiber]

I just triangulate using.my markers for life pods and such.

Ngl tho sometimes I have a picture of the map on a web page I just alt tab to for a quick look. But don't really need it now as much

[worldly valve]

i used the map for the first time mid game c2c. maaan i had such different ideas for a few of where the biomes/biome barriers were

[unreal flame]

it's certainly pretty easy to miss whole biomes

[trail ether]

if never prompted to go there yes

as vanilla well demonstrates

[warm cedar]

Not working 😦

[fiery fiber]

There you go then. Confirmed no teleporters

[forest valve]

teleporters work in c2c

[trail ether]

not used properly

[forest valve]

^

[warm cedar]

Whara do wrong?

[forest valve]

i think you need to put an ion cube in both of the tp areas

something contains an ion cube, u gotta put it in there

[smoky storm]

Heya, i have finished creating a translation into Russian for modification, I would like to know where I can publish it

[worldly valve]

You translated c2c to russian?

That is extremely fucking cool. You win the best comment in this entire thread if its true

[unreal flame]

have you translated it such that all progression hints in databanks and PDA lines are preserved adequately?

That’s certain to be a sticking point for any translation, as it’s very likely for any mistakes to go unnoticed for quite some time

[trail ether]

without just turning into "here are the answers" too

[unreal flame]

With regards to Russian, @bitter kraken is probably your best bet for verifying a translation

[forest valve]

yeah thats also really important

[bitter kraken]

Hey! Im looking at the files and i wonder. Everything inside header is written in one word. Is this an ID? Should it be translated?

[trail ether]

that is an image file name

it should not be edited

[bitter kraken]

Oooooooooooooh
Alright, thanks!

[sharp herald]

So just to make sure: bases are depowerd as well in the caustic biome? Or is this indeed the way to progress?

[unreal flame]

||Bases will not be drained||

[warm cedar]

Alr back to playing sea to sea tried to put the ion cubes somewhere near/into it but cant do it any other suggestions?

[warm cedar]

How do i use thise?

[forest valve]

find out yourself

only one species before you tried figuring out, perhaps they know something?

[warm cedar]

alr ty for the tip

[vocal pulsar]

I wish there was a version that added the new resources and creatures somehow but didnt add the new biomes for compatability (would be hard, and unnecessary though so i understand why they wont do it)

[sharp herald]

Any tips on reducing the lag created after about an hour playtime? Been restarting as a way of dealing with it, but was wondering if there is a mod for some Performance fixes

Which is in fact compatible with c2c

[warm cedar]

is there a way to fix the lag from the || geyser particle fitler|| or the fcs drills?

[worldly valve]

On my two playthroughs one had next to no lag after i visited a place once

The second had giant lag barriers arpund certain biomes

Wallks of sheet lag for like 2 feet around a box

The geyser filters def can generate lag too? Fortunately you can gather most all you need fairly fast from it

I left like 80% built usually

[worldly valve]

Checj where your bases are built. Anything near/around a new biomr can cause lag to build

[sharp herald]

I built in the safe shallows near one of the volcanos/gyseres. Got a particle filter there as well, maybe ill just deconstruct it. Also those volcanos generate a lot of items, which is perfect for a nearby base, but maybe it contributes to the lag?

[worldly valve]

You only need a couple small chests of the stuff it gives really. Id deconstruct or leave 80% like i did

If you can read code better than me the logs may help you

But i still mostly advise tinkering with bases near the new stuff and the geyaers in particular

[fiery fiber]

Once the filter is full deconstruct it, I find having it running causes alot of lag, plus you don't really need all that much ash. At least pre 500 depth that I've found anyways

[worldly valve]

It generates really fast anyways if you ever need it again

[sharp herald]

Thx for the tip. It kinda works a little better a little longer.
Got another q regarding nanocarbon. I know where to find it, tried every time i heard the noise but couldnt find it. Now im in a state where i NEED it to progress. So my questionis:

1. How often does it occur?
2. Where is a good spot to wait?

[worldly valve]

It takes forever to occur sometimes

I recxomend waiting on surface of water with azure seaglide at the ready

Itd pretty hard to see in the water

[forest valve]

reika says its around every 20 minutes or so

[worldly valve]

It can take longer

But basically i recoomend staying at the surface of the water, some sya can do within 100m of surfave but easier on surface so you know what dirextion to travel asap

Im not really supposed to say best location, but beat general location woukd be center of map and really pay attention to where the meteors land

Also note you only have 90s after it hits the water

[sharp herald]

Got it! Posting up on the lifepod 🙂

[sharp herald]

Hmm i kinda need some more help i think. Waiting for an hour now and nothing. Is there any way to look up the cooldown or the frequency of the thing? In a config or xml?

Is there anything that prevents it?

[worldly valve]

Be at the ready

[forest valve]

nothing prevents it

[worldly valve]

Tbh i didnt lime nanocarbon very mucj

Are you really at the point of nreding it?

How deep are you

[sharp herald]

Im at 900 got everything to go further down except the depth module. I could maybe go with just the glide, but i dunno how im supposed to get kyanite then

Found one nanoc finally but boy that was tedious. Got the scanner so its easier.

[worldly valve]

THE REAL ADVICE i didnty give

is look up when you are close

[sharp herald]

So next hurdle where im not sure what to do or know if its intended or a bug: getting kyanite. My plans involved moving a deposit bit by bit, but it did disappear. Now, the pda says it forms at 1100 depth, but does that also mean it dissolves at lower depths? Or did i run into a bug here?

[worldly valve]

Mighta fallen into ground

[worldly valve]

Ive been slowly tackling a hardcore playthrough

Very different for me

I usually decide if im going out to collect or explore and act com0letley differently depending on what it is

I also have a habit of relying on death teleporting, just so useful

Soentimes making a tiny base for just a ssecond and deconstructing to tele resources home fast lol

For exanple i usually embrace dying in the small caves a bit. Easier to pyt a small base next to usually

[pastel slate]

could someone remind me how to install the mod? its been a minute and i cant remember how

[trail ether]

??

[forest valve]

you download qmodmanager, smlhelper, terrainpatcher v0.4, ecclibrary (legacy), and download reika's mods off https://reikakalseki.github.io/subnautica/index.html

same process as downloading mods normally

[pastel slate]

ok thank you:)

[sharp herald]

Im nearly throu the mod, but im struggling with the last complication. I dont want the solution, but maybe a tiny hint how to || get into the capains quarters || ?

[unreal flame]

Weren’t you given a databank for it?

[sharp herald]

I was yes, somehing like || not the traditional way || i tried all tools, || jailbroken lasercutter, re and prpulsion cannon, tried to cut open the air vent next door. Only thing left to try is bringing the prawn, but im not sure if i can get it there through all the doors. ||

[pastel slate]

how long does ||nanocarbon|| typically take to spawn in? I’ve been waiting for what feels like forever

or perhaps a command to make the entity spawn in? If it never comes ofc

[unreal flame]

20-30 minutes, iirc

[unreal flame]

There’s more to try

Not necessarily in terms of other tools, though

[worldly valve]

Can be as long as an hour

Be at the ready

[pastel slate]

uuuuuggghhhh

I remember being told it always landed at 0,0, is that true?

[worldly valve]

Nooooo

Im told it likes to land centrally in the map

My experience says otherwise

My advice is be in a centeal location and watch the meteor on its first fall

There are 3 specific map markers that will give you a visual hint on if its too far

Rge carbon is hars to see in the water

Also lives for 90s

I sometimes cannot get there if i have super azure seaglide glitch active. If its beyind the markers

Stayon the surfave

Be at tue ready

I think nano carbon was a neat concept

But it often spawns in very hard to get to spots, the 20 min timer def can be upwards of an hour, the visual effect in the water is rather minimal.

Also once it lands in the warer its rather easy to lose your direction

Since if you lose your line you are fucked

[pastel slate]

ya not excited

also still hasn’t spawned in yet

im mostly doing other things before I go and get it but still

I feel like I woulda heard it by now

[trail ether]

have you not built the scanner room for it

[sharp herald]

Im really at a loss here. Maybe i glanced over some stuff. Maybe you could nudge me in the right direction.
What i tried so far, additional to the tools: ||

• built a rock crusher in front of the door with a thermal plant and power lines to the crusher
• checked the other rooms to check if i can maybe depower anything, remove a fuse somewhere.
• triedrepulsion cannon the electric wires to short circuit the door, but i cant grab the power lines
• brought every acid i could produce and tried throwing it at the door
• checked for another entrance all around the aurora, dint find any
• used the stasis rifle, that did work, but im sure that was a bug, as the whole aurora got skewed, so thats not it either
  ||

[unreal flame]

||something you tried before, but with more power behind it||

[sharp herald]

Oh man thanks. I coul have sworn i already tried it, but maybe i just hit a strange vector before. It worked now 👍

[worldly valve]

You maybe didnt use the right battery

[worldly valve]

You can only do that afrer finding thr carbon

[worldly valve]

I would not do anythibg elsee wwhen lookinv for the nanocarbon

I would watch youtube, sit on surfacr of water, sounds boosteed a little so tge neteor is hearable

[sharp herald]

Wow what a ride. This way the most awesome, terrifying (looking at you || void spikes ||), satisfying and impressive subnautica experience ive had. Thanks Reika for putting so freaking much work, effort and love into this one of a kind mod!

[silk pond]

||is it just me or is there a glitch with the rock crusher where when its not powered it creates massive lag||

[trail ether]

I do not see a reason that that should occur

[worldly valve]

My experience with lag in the mod is very inconsistent. Two and a half playthroughs atm, first playthrough had no lag for any new stuff save the first time i entered a new zone

Second playthrough felt like it had bubbles around the new areas that would spike every time i went through, i also found any of the nww tecgs had potential to generate lag. My volcanic traces did a bit, especially when they were full.

I also found building bases near the new stuff could also cause cascading lag over 30 mins that would just get worse

But also all of the above was super inconsistent, i made sure to use words like could and sometimes because...well 8t was all sometimes

Sometimes everything was super fine and no big deal

[upper dock]

lines up with my experience roughly

new areas would sometimes lag to varying degrees

and saving in areas that lagged was generally a bad idea

the worst instance of lag I had was anywhere around the jellyfish caves would have a consistent stutter at all times (I think because of the huge wreck nearby)

and I built a base there and saved in it and it took like 4 attempts + 10 minutes to load that save

[vocal pulsar]

is ecocean compatable with socknautica? or do those void orb things frick stuff up

[ornate rivet]

no

[forest valve]

i wont recommend it one bit

and also i think c2c disables socknautica

[vocal pulsar]

i dont use C2C, i just have all the dependencies lol

[upper dock]

socknautica isn't compatible with much of anything

[pastel slate]

is there a possibility that since I made my world before the release of nano carbon, it wouldn’t spawn? But also, upon its release I did see the touch down of 1 whole wreck

or am I just rambling?

because I’ve been playing more consistently for long periods of time and still nothing has spawned in

[forest valve]

you need to be around 100 or so meters or less from sea level to hear it

and then you can look up

[pastel slate]

ig I’ll try when I get home and just sit ‘centrally’

like western grassy plateaus?

[unreal flame]

It will.

At least, it did for me

[trail ether]

no

[pastel slate]

I accidentally ate lumishroom oil

will the effects ware off?

Nvm

[silk pond]

when i was exploring|| the wreck in the crag field|| the repair panel wouldnt let me repair it. is this normal?

i did find a way past it but am just wondering

[trail ether]

it is not supposed to happen but it is common

however it does not affect me

so i have a very hard time debuggin

[silk pond]

ok

[viscid sequoia]

Hello guys, anyone can help me? Im trying to install sea to sea, but i don't know why it doesn't work. I did by this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfQf10Jr-8k
Steam Legacy. QMODS 4.4.4, SML Helper 2.1.5, ECC Library 1.2.1, Terrain Patcher 0.4 and all needed Reika mods are installed in QMOD folder. Of the other mods I only have Subnautica map and QuickSlots by legacy version.
I have logs if it can help.

Maybe it has something to do with the missing dxgi.dll file. I did a file restore in steam and even reinstalled the game, it didn't appear.
Left pic is in video, my pic is right.

[forest valve]

nope, nothing with the dxgi file

thats something for ReShade

something used for unity games and otherwise to change lighting adn stuff

basically, shaders

send your qmodmanager log

[pure igloo]

https://imgur.com/M4RaPyY
Your QModManager log file can be found in the game root folder.
for Subnautica: Below Zero, the file is named qmodmanager_log-SubnauticaZero.txt. Once you've found the log file, you can just drag it into Discord to send it.

[forest valve]

ill respond after a while, gotta go somewhere real quick

[viscid sequoia]

Before i had install Reshade for 2.0 version, but then i deleted it

[forest valve]

i believe you downloaded the source code, not the actual mods

https://reikakalseki.github.io/subnautica/index.html

should contain all the mods

scroll down to the bottom of each list and click the button that says "Download via GitHub Releases"

[viscid sequoia]

yeah, i see

i downloaded a source code

thanks, the mod works

[forest valve]

[pastel slate]

Quick question, is the cyclops subject to the same ||power drain in the lost river|| as the seamoth is?

[trail ether]

yes

[pastel slate]

Will it like, despawn eventually? I wanna make the tank 1 longer and he’s stopping that from happening

[cyan dome]

just now finding out that if you enter the ||inactive/active lava zone in the cyclops without i assume a proper module, its just fire everywhere|| great job making the game a living hell, i love it!/srs

[pastel slate]

Also for some reason I the creepvines are capped at growing to 54%, and no, I cannot add a tank underneath, and for some reason I can’t get rid of the tank in the picture without reason

[trail ether]

they will not grow to full size in a size-1 ACU

they do not fit

[pastel slate]

I didn’t think so, now im just concerned as to why I can’t add another acu below the original one

And why when I try to disassemble the first one it says there’s nothing I need to get rid of the disassemble, but still won’t let me

[silk pond]

im about 15 hours into my new playthrough and am now starting to experience lag when picking up items. is this normal?

[fiery fiber]

Same thing happened to me. I had to destroy the whole thing and start over. 1 level aquarium will bug out if you put creepvines in there

[worldly valve]

Couod you be more specific?

My experience with the lag is hit and miss. Ive seen different people report different thing

New techs can cause lag, building /putting stuff near aome of the new content can cause a slowdown/buildup of lag

What was weird about the second for me is my cpu n thinfs got less intenaive and used

[silk pond]

just whenever i pick up an item my game experiences a lag spike

[worldly valve]

Is it any area?

Or are you in a specific base/biome

[silk pond]

any area

[worldly valve]

Thats suoer weird

[fiery fiber]

Well I cast my vote for Reika 😋

[pastel slate]

for some reason I cannot deconstruct an acu (didn’t know it needed to be 2 tall for plants to fully grow), does anyone have a fix for this? I’m guessing it’s the growing creepvines but I can’t destroy them either

And after deconstructing half of my base I can’t place a mpr on top of the existing one with the acu in it, or deconstruct the mpr below it (I thought I could add an acu underneath)

And it tells me this?

[forest valve]

you can just keep knifing them

and they break

[pastel slate]

any certain amount of knife slashing? Cause 50 or so odd swings from a heated knife did nothing

[forest valve]

guh

[pastel slate]

I will continue knifing

I feel like 100 hits would make im disappear

Damage multiplier also does nothing

And I mean a big multiplier, and still nothing

[pastel slate]

Is there a console command I could use maybe?

[forest valve]

i dont think so

[pastel slate]

uh

ok would it still make the kelp forest biome in the acu? I just want alien poop

[forest valve]

should

[pastel slate]

ok, and hb the mpr underneath the acu room, it’s just kind there now?

[fiery fiber]

Yep. I actuality restarted my hand cuz sane thing happened to me

Just remember to make your acu at least 2 high if ye'r gonna add creep vines to it. Otherwise theywill never reach 100% growth

[worthy plume]

hi, i just wanted to know if someone made a let's play of this mod?

[forest valve]

it doesnt need one

and it seems that so far no one did a playthrough

you could be the first!

[worthy plume]

i don't think i could do one with my pitiful skill, but i just wanted to know if it was done because i just lost my save and speed up the beginning, but too bad

[forest valve]

the mod doesnt really require skill tbh

if you played subnautica a few times, shouldnt be hard at all

just takes a bit more methodical thought than subnautica usually takes

[worthy plume]

yeah, but i remember missing so much thing because i am so dumb, like missing the cave under gun island, or missing a part of a cave for thermo blade

[worldly valve]

Scanning rooms

Tho sometimes complwting a biome take awhilw

[trail ether]

add the building tweaks mod and use its force-allow option

G i think

[trail ether]

not yet but a couple people might

[pastel slate]

Ok I’ll try it, thank youuuu

[worthy plume]

ho ok nice !

[worthy plume]

did you change the air bladder?

[worldly valve]

No air bladder is just rather terrible in legacy

Like moves slower than basic seaglide badlol

Also has no 15s air tank

[worthy plume]

Ho ok, il was wondering why it lift me up so slowly, terrible idea i will trash it

[brazen dawn]

Hey has anyone experienced this really annoying bug where in this particular spot random items spawn and lags the hell out of the game, these are the coordinates 5.3 -2.6 0.1. I've had this bug in all of my playthroughs, if anyone knows how to fix this that would help greatly thanks.

[unreal flame]

Use the command clear000

[forest valve]

that isnt in legacy, the bar around tools

[trail ether]

there is a mod that adds it

I use it

and the o2 font is that of legacy

[forest valve]

i see

[brazen dawn]

Battery Charge Indicator And UI Tweaks

@trail ether Do you have any suggestions I've tried the command clear000 but the bug is still present

[trail ether]

clear000 does not "fix the bug", it just removes items accumulated there

new ones will still appear over time

[brazen dawn]

Ok all good thanks

@trail ether Will there ever be a fix for this in the future and also i absolutely love this mod. This really is an amazing mod!!

[trail ether]

it is not a C2C bug

[brazen dawn]

@trail ether oh ok but do you know what causes it because I've spent hours trying to figure it out including deleting every other mod but C2C and even then it's still happening

[forest valve]

how would reika know what causes it when it isnt a c2c bug

might be a bug of subnuatica itself afaik

atleast in the old versions, when shit failed to load, it put it at 000

[brazen dawn]

@forest valve Yeah all good I'm just trying to figure out why its happening because its very annoying.
I've literally tried everything I can think of, deleting every mod but c2c trying to see if there is an issue or any errors within subnauticas console even diving in subnauticas files to see if there are any errors.

[worldly valve]

Pr9nanly easier just to clear 00 once in a bit

Thatnpart never caused me lag

But the lag in c2c seems to be insonsistent

[forest valve]

it didnt fix their issue

[worldly valve]

Oh. Lame. Lag was a different source then

[trail ether]

this thread seems to have been archived

[untold kiln]

So I found this strange recipe under the Electronics tab, when I use it I get a vanilla battery and a bunch of other random crafting materials, as well as an "Azurite Battery (Uncrafting)" item that, while it says it has 750 energy, it does nothing and can't be used in anything. I assume this is some sort of weird mod compatibility issue?

[bitter kraken]

I dont think that its supposed to give the last item, but all the other ones are fine
Essentially, as i understand it, this is a way to uncraft the azurite battery. You get all the materials needed to craft a new one

[untold kiln]

I've yet to find the recipe to make one in the first place, for some weird reason I get azurite batteries from crafting the laser cutter

[untold kiln]

...well, that's not good

This didn't happen without C2C on

Guess I'm rolling back to an earlier save

[normal frigate]

Just ignore it

Thats because C2C does goofy stuff with the light parents

[untold kiln]

Given that it increases infinitely, I don't exactly want it sitting there forever

[untold kiln]

...well, that's different

Guess I'm not getting the PRAWN anytime soon

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/835796611342401617.webp?size=64&name=Haaaaaa~1