SeaToSea

[worldly valve]

No

Theequivelent would be

Nomai

Also never once looked at promotionap matietal for outwr wilds

I said i wouldnt assosiate acommonly used game mechanics that comes in many different forms

Also i didnt know inhad a computer in outer wilds until

About

90% of the way in

[past geyser]

hint "Common" that a big net

[worldly valve]

I know the devs were iffy about putting it in

Becsuse it created a checklist

Snd they wanted to avoid a checklist

[past geyser]

they want a Quest list i guess

[worldly valve]

They agreed it was good yes

But it wss a big discussion point

[humble island]

yeah im gonna click off this chat since im planning to play outer wilds soon and don't want spoilers

ill see you guys later

[worldly valve]

I personally didnt see it till late in thebgame

Oh i havent said any spoulers

But fair

[past geyser]

well i don't like opening the pda

[worldly valve]

Inread through ever pda i got

Listened to thenlogs too

A few items were a bit unclear

And the only one is truly disliked was the breathing below 500m

[trail ether]

also to answer this:

1. most players will immediately use every available hint/answer before putting in any effort of their own
2. the known presence of hints/answers negatively influences how much players actually try to work out answers before "giving up" and looking it up; most of the people I see - here, in my other (non-SN) mods, or for games I have no part in the creation of - who talk about "giving up" on a puzzle or working something out put in all of thirty seconds and skimming the most obvious piece of information before declaring "this is too obscure"

[worldly valve]

As i wouof have never guessed the game wanted me to explore in a basically unexplorable area

[trail ether]

as it is getting people to think and/or read is a massive uphill battle

just look at the discussions surrounding any text-heavy (puzzle or story) game

OW included

[worldly valve]

Its a game

Not a classroom

There is next to no discussion of this mod

Outside this chat

A fee reddit threads

[trail ether]

did you ever go by the name bobbywalker on IRC in 2015 by any chance

[worldly valve]

No

[trail ether]

https://pastebin.com/raw/7XJXQwaF

because you sound like him

[worldly valve]

Ok?

[trail ether]

right down to the "games are for playing, reading belongs in school"

[worldly valve]

I love me some.puzzle games

Didnt say that

I said its a game not a classroom

[trail ether]

https://i.imgur.com/PYXvfam.png

[trail ether]

and where are classrooms found

that is semantically equivalent to school

[worldly valve]

People dont need to pass the test

Theynjust need to have fun

You said reading

I never said reading isnt in games and problem solving should be removed

Merely that if aomeone wabts a vague hint

It should be okay

Espeically when the copy paste the hint from your site

[worldly valve]

Notice the lack of the phrasing you placed

It changed the meaning of my words

This mod is very furstrating and challenging at times

And its not always the story hints

Heck i managed to get myself rather stuck as fuck in the lost river

Didnt bring my lead suit, caused a soft lock for awhile

Had to do a super sea glide dash and make several basic o2 tanjs to make it lol

The scanning room upgrade you made is invaluable to this mod as it does find everything you need

Main issue is subnaitivlca side there each new scanning rooms gets a bit buggier

And once youbhave like 10

Hahahha sometimes they take an hour to scan anything lololol

The bioprocessor was a bit bleh

Fortunateoy bio reactors werent really altered in your mod and still are my number 1 Power sourcr and are shweet as fuck still

This mod is easily 30-50 hours if you play rather efficiently

Not speed run efficient blind run efficient

So asking for some hints on a few of thenmore frustrating parts

[forest valve]

id say i played quite efficiently, im at the lost river, and are at 39 hours, but i personally believe its more 60-65 hours

[worldly valve]

Again notebaly the breathing below 500m being a rew to get below 500m

Inwas tryna lowball

Tbh i was gonna write 80-100

But then i thought maybe not so efficient there

[worldly valve]

That and

||nano carbon||

[unreal flame]

Acquiring the first nanocarbon does seem to be a regular source of frustration still.

Wouldn’t personally be against the first one basically landing in the player’s lap

[forest valve]

pda could say something like "the aurora is detecting pieces of debris falling from the atmosphere, continued degredation of the drive core will stop further signals"

and for that one nanocarbon you get the same effect of the scanner upgrade

[worldly valve]

Thatd be sweet at least

Even with the upgrade

Getting to nano carbon in time is super super diffocult

[forest valve]

i mean not really, by the time you wanna make a base lower than the "detection range" you would definitely have found one or two NCs

(detection range being under the range where the mod gives you visual/hearable hints that a nanocarbon is spawning)

[worldly valve]

Its more how dfar it spawns

I could only get to them in time most of the time using super sea glide glitch

And i also felt like i was bugged even when it go to the water

The debris hits the surfav of the water but there is not much of a visual in the water itself

I didnt think there was a range limit

Its all on the surface anyways far as i could tell

Tbh like.most of the other advanced materials

I figured there would eb a piece in a chest somewhere

Like how there is enough plasteel to do the first severak things

[forest valve]

spawns anywhere in the world i believe

with some exceptions

[worldly valve]

How?

||Doesnt it fall from the sky |metors||

[unreal flame]

Prior to picking up the first, they’re supposed to fall within a much smaller radius around either the shallows or the player (can’t recall which)

[forest valve]

definitely the player i believe

actually

[worldly valve]

Idk what caused my experience then

[forest valve]

might be the shallows

[worldly valve]

Tho i def spawned in my first piece manually after a bit

Mighta messed me up a bit

I may eb trmembering wrong, thought the scanner needed a piece right

And even getting to the metoers was challenging,

Tho maybe tedious is better word

[forest valve]

well you dont really need alot of them

[worldly valve]

Since the only strat was sitting at the ready on the top of the water for 30 min+

[forest valve]

like even if you get one once an hour, you should be golden

or i mean

one every 5 hours

[worldly valve]

Well see i never once got one

Waiitng for 30 mins doing nothing in the water is uhh

Uhhh

Uhhhh

In a video game i jusr dont have focus to wait for something that might come in 5 mins or come in 1 hour depending on rng

And thats so you even see it falling

Still gotta travrl out yo where it is

Which im nit sure why was so challenging, because i know i never spawned a nano carbon until after i spent a few hour trying to gwt a single piece

To which id either lose my focus and lose concwntration irl as i wait for a metoer

[forest valve]

you will hear a fire sound

[worldly valve]

I know

[forest valve]

it will be very obvious

[worldly valve]

It is

[forest valve]

just be like less than 100m abovewater or smth

[worldly valve]

Thats whatnim dezcribing

The strat is

Wait on thebsurface doing literally nothing

And hope the rng doesnt decide to take an hour to let the fire rain down

Which it might, so dont lose focus

And even within 00m of syrface i was rareoy able to get to the fireball

And the fireball has 0 visual inside the water

Even the few times i made it to the fireball

The fireball has no visual undwr the water

Thus causing doubt if i went to far or not far enough

And i never coule sww it in the water euther

Even when making it to the fireball

What isnt obvious, is where the fireball trail is in the water, a visual would have been handy, and the nanocarbons either were bugged and didnt spawn properly

Or they are again, challwnging to see while the fall in the water

I spent hours chasing the fireballs

Even said that multiple times

I alao dont think it spawned close to me

I really recall never once getting to the nqno carbon in tine without super sea glise

It def had 0 issues spawning in reaper areaa, rven before i git the tracking module

The first nano carbon is also hard ebcause the fireball takws what

30 second?

Maybe a minute?

To fall

[worldly valve]

Imma reinstall this and see how far i get

I more or less got to lava zone before i decided the grind was too much

More on the less side

I was able to get to the lava zone

[forest valve]

the mod works fine, no need for a reinstall

[worldly valve]

Well based on how you mentioned the fireballa from the sky should always spawn within 100m of player& im not so sure since my expeirence was nothing lioe that

As inmve said i required super sea glide gltich to even get to fireballs in time

[forest valve]

i never said that

i said they spawn from a radius fromthe player

but then backtracked that statement

[worldly valve]

Ah fair

Getting ti them was auper challenging

But i do need to reinstall

I uninstalled months ago

Got to roughly lava zone 1

[forest valve]

the mod didnt really have an update

[worldly valve]

Its uninstalled

[forest valve]

oh ok

[worldly valve]

I switch back to normal ans figurdd i likely wouldnt come back to the mod

Getting bored of waiting for thr garg mod to finish

And the void mod thats not even close to being started?

Had a classical cool no gameplay trailer

You knoq, the sane kind that big studios do when they still have no game but want to say look purdy

[forest valve]

which

call of the void?

developers of rota said theyre in the polishing stage

but polishing takes alot of time

[worldly valve]

oh?

i remeber they said they had nothing at teaser trAILER

impressive

teaser trailer looked dope, just the sin of no gameplay

too many games with a sick as cinematic trailer

not that i even try to watch trailers anymore

mods maybe since they have very soft anouncements community impact wise

usually

[forest valve]

not the place for the topic

[forest valve]

they dont kmow when they will be done, so they can't really say much

rota put a release date a couple years ago

went terribly

[worldly valve]

yeah 2.0 murdfered it

[forest valve]

due to the living large update it took them a whole year to redo everything

[worldly valve]

they coulda decided to stick with legacy, i know they had their reasons, i forgot theme but did read them, but twas a choice

still

nothin else exciting is done

alterra mod has cool stuff, but seems so "empty"

[forest valve]

why would tjey stick to legscy tho

theyd have to go to 2.0 anyways

[worldly valve]

this one has a few quuestionable quuirks, ive said my piece there though

the story elements were fun/hilarious

io found most things pretty naturally

i totally learned how to cheese currents instead of navigating caves>.>

[forest valve]

#🎮┃mod-discussion

[worldly valve]

talking about this mod

[unreal flame]

I fully endorse sea to sea’s vision tbh, I’d do the same stuff with RotA if it had made sense to do so

[worldly valve]

It was mostly pretty cool

Gonna reinstall tonight

Mwabt to do so this aft

God sidetracked by mtg

I suspect i may get to the same point and decide the grind is just a bit too much

[unreal flame]

I’m definitely on your side with making nanocarbon easier to get initially

[worldly valve]

But for a what seems to be a solo made mod mostly

Good vision

The story elements mostly work well

Has functional new mechanica

[worldly valve]

hmm aparently its still instalkled...i thought i purged it when i uninstalled subnautica

maybe i can resume where i left off

it suggests its all outa date

[unreal flame]

uninstalling the game might leave folder structure where it is, and reinstalling it wouldn't affect that either

[nova saddle]

Maybe hide || one nanocarbon somewhere in the Aurora and you need electromechanical suit to get there? Like: it’s in storage room filed with acid or some sort ||

[unreal flame]

that'd break reika's canon for nanocarbon's properties pretty heavily

[forest valve]

NC disintegrates within 90 seconds, not possible

[nova saddle]

In water

[forest valve]

its supposed to be a fragile material, wont make sense if it was jus kept very nicely somewhere where it's always being crushed by water pressure

[nova saddle]

Not in storage

[forest valve]

it comes from things coming from space

how come that tiny bit got turned into nanocarbon

but whats around it didnt

wouldnt make sense

[nova saddle]

I mean in a room inside Aurora and player need right equipment to get in. Same with prawn suit

[forest valve]

still wont make sense

[nova saddle]

Why?

[forest valve]

it comes with extreme friction and heat due to falling from the sky

[nova saddle]

Hmm

I see

[unreal flame]

the opposite really

it's a structural material, it just dissolves in the presence of water

[forest valve]

oh

ye

Carbon nanotubes, woven together into sheets which are then heat-fused together. An advanced industrial product not producible by standard fabrication technology.

so it wont really make sense to jst have it lying around

[unreal flame]

i suggested that fallen nanocarbon ought to require stabilization before being usable in crafting (with destabilization being brought about by atmospheric entry) but that was decided against

[forest valve]

fair

twould take quite the setup to just turn stuff into nanocarbon

[worldly valve]

A good spot could be

|| WATER locker in void||

Its bit weird tho

[forest valve]

keyword water

no place would make sense for it to just be sitting around

hmmm, i have an idea but its a bit stupid

actually nvm it wont work

wouldve said maybe a piece of debris from the sunbeam but its hella far, so nah

[worldly valve]

Was weird how i had the outa date messgaes

Deleted it all, reinztalled it all

Messed up folder cuting ince and broke it all for a few

[forest valve]

with versionchecker?

[worldly valve]

Yeah the yellow words spawned in when i first rebooted

My old save file wont load so started fresh

Got seaglide

||nanolathing||

And just got habitat builder n scanner room

[trail ether]

I am going to remove this

[nova saddle]

|| tbh why can it land on land? ||

[trail ether]

it should not

ever

I specifically made it avoid both islands and the aurora

[unreal flame]

Someone just had to ruin it…

[worldly valve]

Gonna boot ut up when i get home

Next plan is rebreather to open up map, maybe a third high capacity tank. And some suicide runs for magnetite

After that || gonna find the laster cutter upgrade and go raid shit ||

Maybr pop by the island and the rock too for some marble mellons n friends

Also debating where i should put my bases

Gonna try and build as few as i need to mitigate scanner room bugs

So need to find thpse points on 3 biomes

[nova saddle]

scanner room bugs?

[forest valve]

too many scanner rooms lags the game

[nova saddle]

Maybe that’s why my game is laggy

Is there’s any mod that can help with that?

[forest valve]

nope

its more of a subnautica thing, cant really fix that

you dont really need many more than 3 scanner rooms imo, after playing the game a few times, you know where everything is

[worldly valve]

in this mod?

i found them exceptionally useful due to the heavily increased capabilties

especioally for mass resource farming because this mod asks for so so so much

[forest valve]

i havent really found myself in any immediate need of any scarce resources, theres like 4 grassy plateaus biomes lol

other than resources made to be scarce

[loud python]

I know this is not how the game is intended to be played, but what I did was getting an early cyclops by using the console to bypass the most difficult material requirement to fulfill.

Then my cyclops just carried around enough resources to make "scanning outposts" wherever, which i'd deconstruct after i've either gotten the resources I needed or exhausted the resources in the area

So I only really had 1 permanent scanner room, and ended up with like 2 scanner rooms at any given time-

[forest valve]

well youre supposed to treat it nicely, so they are made very expensive

[loud python]

Then again, you don't need to go that far

When you're not using your scanner room, just deconstruct it and store the materials in a closet nearby, reconstruct it when you need to use it

[worldly valve]

I did do that a bit, but i wad abusing the super seaglide exploit as opposed to seamothing around

So inventory space was tight for me

Especially since not having shit on you is suuuuuper dangerous and can lead to soft locks in the mod

[forest valve]

well just dont go to dangerous places

you definitely have to try if you wanna softlock yourself

[worldly valve]

Lost river

If you dont bring radiation helment

Ez to soft lock down tgere and get into a deatb loop

[forest valve]

never knew the rad helmet had a use in the LR

[forest valve]

LR is meant to be dangerous

you arent supposed to just be swimming around in it

you kinda have to try to softlock yourself, plan ahead

dont just sit in one spot then go "ah fuck, im sofftlocked, how could that happen!"

[worldly valve]

I didnt expect radiation down there

Had

Other protrctive gear

Its pretty easy to coft lock down there if you dont bring 100% of your gear with you at all times

[worldly valve]

I belueve part of it two was linked to my last enetered base

[forest valve]

only a very specific place has radiation tho..?

i did NOT get radiation in the LR, ||only the sulphur damage||

[forest valve]

its also pretty easy to get softlocked down there if you dont notice the environmental effects

pretty damn sure the lost river doesnt have radiation from what ive experienced

but i only got to like 2 or 3 entrances

[worldly valve]

Im trying to not be too specific

Im also at work

Ill write out the whole scenario when i get time

It did taks a few moveing oarts, and it was only a soft lock it was fixable

It just took many deaths

[forest valve]

aight

[worldly valve]

Ill mayne pm it if thats okay

[forest valve]

thas ok

[worldly valve]

I dont fully agree with how raika is limiting the discussion here

But id have to go deep into a few thigs

[forest valve]

could just use spoilers

[worldly valve]

I know a big part if it is that afrer ones first base, is entered, the life pod does not ever count as a bas3 for respawning ever again

Which i beluev i only learned by this scenario

[forest valve]

||only the base has radiation||

and u can just use a rad suit, cus otherwise itd be impossible to breathe

[worldly valve]

|| there is a small section of the lost river that has radiation due to the failed nuclear reaxtor||

[forest valve]

yes, i know that

[worldly valve]

I dont recall how my death occured

But i gor sent from surface to unpowered bioractor lost river base

[forest valve]

howd you get sent..

what

[worldly valve]

Step one was power the base, seeds werent grown in at the time

I entered the life pod on surface

But that doesnt reset a checkpoint

So the last base i entwred was lost river

I also think i was using the seamoth for some of this, and it had a lot of valuable stuff brought to thebsurface

So i lost acxess to my swag by learning of how checkpoint mechanic works

Had to, grab a fish with thenseconds i had as this mod lowers starting health/food/water

[forest valve]

it takes you to the lifepod if your base doesntr have an entrance/exit

[worldly valve]

I may have been out of breathing fluid for a bit too

I had like

10 bases at thatnpont lolol

Lost river base had an entrance

I think i was shuttling shit back and forth

I at the time did belief the life pod was a valid checkpoint

[forest valve]

it would take you to the lifepod if no other bases had an entrance or exit

so it wouldve taken you to your other base

[worldly valve]

Sure, but i had actibe functional bazes

[forest valve]

well yes

[worldly valve]

And the last one i enetered was lost river

It just had no power

[forest valve]

but the c2c ones, act as actual bases

[worldly valve]

I had several problems all at once

[forest valve]

im not sure if thats something modifiable

[worldly valve]

My fluid was out and unrechargeable

Low food/water/health too

Thebstratbwas basically run out, pray for a fish

Grab it and enter base to die without losing said fish

Shove it into the bii

Bio

Im pretty sure inwas really fucked on my breathing fluid here too

The suit may have been less of an issue

Tho i did die once to radiation when i was low health in river

Didnt really expect to run into that base and i died within a few seconds

I think that memory bled into my soft lock scenario

My soft lock was more related to breathinf fluid and air tanka

Oh

Right yes

I couldnt make breathing fluid

Or coukdnt recharge

Baze wasnt complete

I had a small air tank by a fluke

Or i had enough titanium to make obe

I either made a couple or i upgraded it

And had to use super sea glide dash to surface.

It mighta been the other suit i lacked

Or maybe not

Long story short tho, while shuttling stuff uo/down to the bases it needed ti be with moth

Go stranded in an unpowered base in the river

The lesson is of course as with all survical games

Is to always have an least one copy of every useful gear at every useful point

But its pretty easy to get teleported to an unfortuante scenario with just an error or two

[trail ether]

they do not

[forest valve]

ah, ok

makes sense

[worldly valve]

||Breathing fluid in general is very easy to die with with a misclick||

[trail ether]

then how have i never had that problem

about one third of my clicks are misclicks

[forest valve]

never had that problem either

misclick in the inventory?

youu can almost as fast click on the mask again

or the suit

[unreal flame]

I don’t get why people micromanage their o2

Sure it works but it’s never necessary especially beyond the early game

[worldly valve]

Ill have ro get back to liquid breathing before i can get jnto my thoughts again

Thr food thinf was tricky thk

To eat underwater needing to remove fluid, clixk things fast and put back in. You do get 10 sefonds but the screen fades dark fast

Also if you forget to switch on the way up and hit surfave

Another very fast death, much harser to avoid than food

[unreal flame]

Why are you trying to QTE eating when you could just eat inside whichever sub you’re working out of

[fiery fiber]

Reading ... ftw 😋

[worldly valve]

seamoths are fragile creatures that explode when not looking a them for about 5 seconds

only gets more true the lower one goes

usually it lives in the base and is just used for transportation

[forest valve]

seamoths are fragile creatures when you dont pay attention to what is around you

even with a reaper attack you have more than enough time to hop out, repair it, and dash away

[barren oar]

dont they kill a full hp moth in c2c

or was that changed since idr

[forest valve]

no

?

they do the normal amount

of 75 hp

u might have enabled death run with it or smth

[barren oar]

i know ive lost several seamoths to reapers myself, although its been a while since i last played

no it was vanilla c2c

[forest valve]

ah

it def changed since then

[barren oar]

i played back when ||sulphur rocks did not give drops at all||, if that helps any

well im assuming thats been patched since, at least

cool then nice that reapers have been fixed

[forest valve]

||now it gives sulphuric acid with the drill crusher thing||

thats what I saw from the wiki atleast

which is not to be trusted in some cases

[barren oar]

i do remember i got recommended to give some of that through the console back then yeah

cant recall if || crystalline || was still obtainable but the change sure is interesting for one

[worldly valve]

Ive lost the most amount of seamoths to squiddies

[barren oar]

ough yeah those are brutal as well

[worldly valve]

Ill just pop this here

Check this oonnne data box and

...hey where is my beacon...

Im better than i used to be. I almosr always relaunch old save

Especially in c2c

[forest valve]

i just dont leave my seamth around dangerous things

[worldly valve]

||i forgot how intensive getting the 4 nanodrones is||

[forest valve]

never lost a seamoth

[worldly valve]

Good for yoy my guy

[barren oar]

how do you do that when everything important is around dangerous things

[worldly valve]

^

Yeah

[forest valve]

like what?

[worldly valve]

For me deamoth doesnt really get used in kelp zonr snd beloe

[barren oar]

bonesharks(|| glass forest ||), reapers (|| dunes ||), crabsquids (several)

[worldly valve]

Its not really worth it outside of storage lugging

[forest valve]

||for the glass forest i jus left my seamoth at sea level||

and went down to it with 3 ultra high capacity o2 tanks

[worldly valve]

I just little shit bases

[barren oar]

oohh multiple o2s

[forest valve]

for the dunes, i just went there lmao

take care of your seamoth and itll take care of you

[barren oar]

i never like using those one takes half the inventory so you cant pick up any resources

[worldly valve]

Even with those once you hit below 500 its like..mwhat|| 10 seconda a tank?||

[forest valve]

i once had it get stuck in a piece of debris from a wreck, had to use the prop cannon a bit

[worldly valve]

Scanning room super duper helpful

[barren oar]

constantly replenishing i found to be very important in c2c as i'd always run out of 30 materials at once lolol

[forest valve]

no

[barren oar]

well not 30 overexageration closer to 29

[forest valve]

its like

150/9

then x3

[worldly valve]

Yeah id have 5-10 ingots of anything and it was already gone

[barren oar]

50 is still too low of a time to do anything, no?

[forest valve]

50 seconds

[barren oar]

considering you have to go back up as well

[worldly valve]

Ehhhh you just need the data bix lolololol

Life is not importsnt

[forest valve]

oh you mean the normal tanks

[worldly valve]

Its just a teleport

[barren oar]

still gotta get the moth back

[forest valve]

is still not too hard to just ||go to where you need to for the better tanks, and also the thing they need to function||

[worldly valve]

Who said i was bringing my moth

I beliebe i had ultra

[barren oar]

||although i guess you could travel without it if youre just going to leave it at surface level yeah||

[forest valve]

and i tihnk you can also make several ||liquid tanks||

i have not tested this so

dont quote me on that

[worldly valve]

You cant do that before then

Since that place is where you get the final piece

Even if made no use

[forest valve]

im saying after you get it

and get the thing that makes it actually useful

[worldly valve]

Its also a shame that is where the||speed module|| is

Sinxe seamoth is much less useful to go so far after that point

||you can yeah i carried 2 and an air ||

[forest valve]

you do know the seamoth has ||another depth module|| for a reason, right?

after you get the reinforced dive suit, with some setup, it isnt hard to ||get the electrical sealant module||

[worldly valve]

Its more that the first part of the game is the really really wide part

[forest valve]

ever heard of "stocking up"?

[worldly valve]

Yeah man

[forest valve]

yeah, after that its pretty straightforward

[barren oar]

that is what picking up resources along the way means yes

[forest valve]

(if you know where you're going)

[barren oar]

alongside the occasional full resource collection for a specific material

[worldly valve]

So the speed module would be most useful some point in thenearlt stage

Since you gotta go everywhere

[barren oar]

i dont remember ||was this the mod that allows cutting the aurora open for scrap||

[worldly valve]

Ince you go deep becomes more or less linear

[barren oar]

since thats a really nice way of getting titanium quick

[worldly valve]

And you dont have the same back and forth after you get the initial bases setup in river

[forest valve]

it was one of the mods that need it yeah

[worldly valve]

It is

[barren oar]

ah

[worldly valve]

Tho the game has a lot a lot of scrap still just lying around

And eventually you can just deconstruct old bases for parts once they dont matter just like in base game

Still no moth still no cutter lolol

Trying to navtigate mountain caves, gonna make the lantern thingy to mark way

[forest valve]

im planning to play c2c on hard mode when it comes out on 2.0

im definitely gonna despise it

but its fair for me to play it because i already cheated a bit too much in the legacy version

(didnt always make myself invincible, just in areas where i was in immediate danger)

[unreal flame]

Was a bug, now fixed iirc

[forest valve]

yes, i can confirm its fixed

[worldly valve]

i find it funny how unbothered i am by reeapers

they are so blind

thjeya are a bit of a tyhreat when resource gathering since i may nopt pay full attanetion lol

need to remember where i foudn mercury

just so desperatel;y need the laser cutter its easily the most important early game item

[worldly valve]

Really what its time for

Is scanning rooms everywhere

I swear i remember finding a

Free

Builder whatever its callef for ships

Might be memory playing tricks

I mostly just want to save the vast amount of resources it takes to build the nonolathing dronea

Those are one of the most intensive resource gathering rwquired in thr mod

The seamotg costs nothing conparitively

[trail ether]

no

[trail ether]

that was never a thing

[barren oar]

it very much was

even if but accidental as mentioned earlier

[unreal flame]

It was, remember the bug that increased their damage or otherwise made them continue grabbing the sub until it died

[worldly valve]

I got 2 shapoes azurite from the same chest

Grabbee it, left, came back

Bonus

[forest valve]

yeah, its a pretty weird bug

@trail ether that aint supposed to happen, im guessing

(sorry for pinging btw)

[worldly valve]

What i think the plan tonight ia to raid cheata around and whwrever i can get inside aurora

Mostly for batteries

Maybe power cells if rng loves me

Also srtup scanner base near whete i think mercury is

I dont think it was very deep

|| im remembering aurora mushroom biome, i know the geyser stuff is there||

[trail ether]

the ||degasi jellyshroom|| one?

is that bug back

again

[forest valve]

yup

seems like it's a real bother 😭

could add some sort of check to see if it was claimed before

not sure if u can actually inever made an sn mod before

[unreal flame]

||bulb zone, yes||

[worldly valve]

Yes. Ill check if it spawns a third time later

I may not pick up the third one but i probably will if its there lol

At best saves a fee minutes of scanning down the line unless i blatently farm said box

[worldly valve]

no more shapes azureite 4 me

so low kley the thing in subnautica that i actually think probably kills the most people

the drooping stingers of mega death

what you touched me for a half secnd?

hw abopt, half health

you know

other than drowning

i just had a memory from first run

i found all 5

capsuls

they all

werte worthless

[unreal flame]

Funny thing about drooping stingers, poison damage automatically heals after a moment

[worldly valve]

so imma write about my low key saddest singular moment in all of subnautica

it was when i found those sick ass bags in the aurora

i was so happy

"finnally some inventory upgrades, and fucking hydrowhatever cube style too"

"lemme just shove EVERYTHING"

so much sad

much disapoint

[silk pond]

||i have no idea as to what "small cave dwelling scavenger" means in the research manifest. i have checked the whole crater multiple times now||

[silk pond]

nvm i found it

[silk pond]

i beat c2c!!!

[humble island]

would you consider using SSG in c2c cheating

[forest valve]

what's ssg?

[shrewd gate]

Super Seaglide. It's a bug in the Legacy version where if you swam out of a flooded moonpool using a Seaglide, the players speed would be incredibly fast.

It's a popular speedrun tactic iirc.

[shrewd gate]

You do what you want. You paid for the game after all.

[forest valve]

i mean kinda, but its your game so do whatever

i see ssg as a minor glitch

since some things are far more potent

also c2c sort of adds an ssg of it's own until some point

[shrewd gate]

I think Propulsion Cannon flying is still in the game as well.

[worldly valve]

I use it a lot

Ssg

There arw a few tailored moments where its a bit exploitive

But for just travel time

Which is a lot of time in this mod, espeically blind ans tying to find everything

[worldly valve]

Reallt though, most of the challenges im thinking ia more cave related

Andi cant think of more useful tools than speed

[mental summit]

Ooph. Hey there.

So, I was trying out c2c and run into a problem. On my first save there was no ||sea treader cave base and all supposed crabsquids around it||. Then I've got no new blueprints when I found deepshrooms and blood oil, so it was a certain softlock (I know about console spawns, but it's just ain't it) I was probably on 1/4 of overall progress so I've restarted the game. Now on my second save I've lost a couple of water streams and all modded blueprints from ||degasi jellyshroom base||

Is this salvageable? Any way to fix existing save or ensure this bug won't appear again?

I also use autosave mod, since the game crashes a lot when sky falling debris appear and some utilities like power stats, grid builder

[worldly valve]

so i bet its the auto save mod that fucked you

c2c have a save warning when you quit and relaunch without fully quitting

[mental summit]

I've lost quite a lot of progress because of these random crashes and I am not entirely sure falling debris are causing them

[unreal flame]

Autosaves shouldn’t inherently cause issues, but I don’t believe there’s a properly functioning autosave mod on legacy (?)

Never heard of the game crashing when debris falls, do you think you could post your logs the next time a crash happens?

And yes, please make sure you restart the game completely whenever you’re going to reload a save

[mental summit]

This one is for legacy branch, worked so far, I've used it before 2.0
https://www.nexusmods.com/subnautica/mods/561

Though it takes three save slots by default in case if earlier stage of progression is needed

[fiery fiber]

I used that with c2c a while back. It definitely itely borks things up. Will save yourself headache if you remove auto save

[unreal flame]

well there you have it

just get in the habit of saving, I suppose

[forest valve]

and always be cautious where you are going

[barren oar]

was saving in c2c custom pois ever fixed

last i played and stayed up to date on c2c discussion, if you saved in such a location it would Brick your save until you deleted the appropriate caches (which also deletes the poi, which also usually means youre softlocked in c2c)

might be a good idea to steer clear of saving in these places as well

[unreal flame]

doesn't brick it, you just need to let it load for a half hour (and then struggle away from it in heavy lag)

maybe that's changed by now but yeah

[barren oar]

lemme see if i can pull up the log from way back then because im pretty sure it was a like null pointer error or whatever that wouldnt let it continue

the . the fucking message link got automoded womp

does unhyperlinked work #❓┃help-and-support message

oh okay cool; original message
oh nevermind i did not, in fact, send the log along (link)

oh wait i did send it just slightly higher

either way this is very much not ontopic regardless ahaha maybe it would have loaded if i let it sit

and hopefully its been fixed already so this is irrelevant regardless

[worldly valve]

ate

|| deepvine||

in an endless load screen

gonna...not save

[humble island]

i read this fucking message multiple times then proceded to do the exact thing i was told not to

[unreal flame]

pardon?

[forest valve]

they read it multiple times and proceeded to not follow instructions

[humble island]

yeah that

[barren oar]

is your save Dead

[humble island]

Nah I’m all good

[trail ether]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bbxFdvBudlE?feature=share

so I know what I need to do

[normal frigate]

oo

aero gel suit?

1. can resist the lava zone
2. breaks after a certain amount of hits from da fishies

[forest valve]

but its made of ruby

id be avoiding all the fishies

[normal frigate]

In da video it says its fragile

[forest valve]

yes but we don't have the fabricator here

so we cant just reconstruct things to the atomic level

well i guess fair its 99% air

[nova saddle]

there's a lot of kinds of aero gels

its just a very small foam with air inside

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerogel

You can even make one from edible material
https://www.odditycentral.com/foods/worlds-lightest-dessert-is-96-percent-air-weighs-just-one-gram.html

[worldly valve]

Finally can get below 500

Now time.to try and not make my lower base as nice as my higher base but sloely caving and just making everything again

Tho i have a few random missed techs so need to setuo and take down a scanner room in each of the biomes that claims to have important stuff still

[silk pond]

yeah that barrier is annoying but passing it is a really nice feeling

[fiery fiber]

Geez i still need the mask. I know I missed something but been too lazy to comb thru all the notes

[worldly valve]

struggling to find ||plankton ||

i know where it is, found it on my first partial run ezpz

i found 1 of it at some point randomly lol

[forest valve]

perhaps one of the survivors has a clue

[worldly valve]

omg i tried booting my old save again seems to be working...not gonna use it as gonna continue current was a whim

...i started spawning stuff in after failing to get

||nano carbon||

a lot

oh no it crashed lolol

[worldly valve]

Oh no i gravely miscalculated

|| ive used the free reactor rod too esrlt forgetting i need the second free plasteel ingot for my liquid breathing system. So now ill just need to bio for awhile to get my moneys wortg outa my ful rod before unmakinf my reactor||

[worldly valve]

I wish the moth felt bettwr

It is useful, but it feels niche as heck in c2c

Outside of the few times it need techs to gather stuff which is neat

Its so slow

||compared to azure sea glidw||

I was useing it for hauling at first

But its generuinely fasrer to just leace it at base 9/10

Its faster to do two or three seperate runs from say closish to aurora to sea traders path and back without it

||i commented before itd be nice if the speed upgrade for moth was more accessible before 500m/actuslly the river because nickel||

That being said

||azure batteries was such a great idea and 20/10||

|| also i sont think the plankton glow until after one scans it. ||

[worldly valve]

Technically the problem is more how amazing ||aazure||

[worldly valve]

Hard to say if its general subnautica labbiness with fikes that have too many houra

Or the mod

But ny play time is only do able for like 30 mins before frane rate becomes unbearable

I dont really think its my pc comparing its performance to something like it takes 2

And early on had 0 lag or frame issues

[fiery fiber]

When did it strike. Near wrecks or geysers or inside your base? Other mods activated with it, cuz mixing c2c with other stuff is pretty bad news, although I'm having an ok run of it with fcs

[forest valve]

yeah it doesnt lag the fcs wreck iirc, only subnautica wrecks

[worldly valve]

Only mixed mod is redial

Im not sure when it triggered exactly, felt like a bit of a slow burn

Its also unlike the spikes that can happen near new areas

Tho when thinking about it the

|| reactor base|| was really extra bad for the lag spikes when tryna enter and i dont think i got the general lag

I think it could b3 a small base i have as a glorified airtank by there

I shoukd unnake it and check, it doesnt have its use anymore anyways

[slow basalt]

so i'm over at the big sea treader wreck (idr if there's more than one but if there is it's the one that looks like a giant arch) and i'm getting hella frame drops. set my graphics to the lowest settings and uhhhh not havin too terribly much luck, anything i can do about it?

[forest valve]

not much you can do about that

happens in all large wrecks iirc

likely gonna be fixed once nautilus gets out of beta (heard that that's when seatosea is going to/start being updated)

[slow basalt]

it's alright more than 10 fps is for the weak anyways B)

[forest valve]

it happens to everyone for some reason

most people?, idk

but basically wrecks have a lag spike every second

[slow basalt]

joy. eh i've lived thru worse lag

ty for your help :D

[trail ether]

I do not even add anything to that wreck

[trail ether]

even around wrecks that I did nothing to apparently

[forest valve]

yeah, pretty weir

is there some sort of check done every second?

could be my only guess

but it hopefully and probably will be gone when c2c is on living large....probably

[slow basalt]

Probably the universe spiting me for having fun. Happens

[forest valve]

no it seems to be a common issue, that seatosea somehow amplifies?

actually i never played legacy without c2c so idk if its a c2c issue

[slow basalt]

I've had some lag in legacy before, but I was on a much worse laptop

To the point where I made it to ||primary containment facility|| but kept clipping thru the ground in my prawn and couldn't beat the game

By the time I tried again, living large was out

Pretty likely that's it's just a vanilla issue. Wish there were a way to resolve it; I wonder what causes those spikes in the first place

[forest valve]

i really doubt sn devs wouldve just left that in there

like even being near the wrecks makes the game freak out

[unreal flame]

it's possible that something that normally isn't a significant performance issue in the basegame is getting exacerbated by C2C

[forest valve]

yeah, somehow amplified by it

[worldly valve]

Subnautica is known for being randomly hyper buggy. I had the tree spawn inside my cyclops as i went by jt once

[worldly valve]

Tho that wasbt in legacy. That was in thenuodate. Which ive heard is actually way buggier than legacy lolol

Hard to verify as one qouod have to compare a lot, and the bugs that occur tend to occur in high hour play files

[fiery fiber]

Also I found if you have ||geyser filter|| running that tends to cause some major lag. I disassemble it once I get enough stuff from it

[worldly valve]

You know...i was thinking that too

I shall do so, i have a box of the stuff and it acts really fast if i need more

[slow basalt]

uhhhh is eating an eye flame core intended to give you flash powers?

i ate one, vomited a bit, and now i'm moving at mach speeds

[trail ether]

yes

[fiery fiber]

Doooood! Gotta try that

[slow basalt]

it made my seaglide go faster... i kinda wanna combine that with ssg glitch

just for science

[slow basalt]

EXTREMELY IMPORTANT QUESTION can you "tame" abyssal stalkers like normal stalkers? i remember seeing an egg for one
i want a babeys

[trail ether]

you can put them in ACUs

[slow basalt]

close enough
i love them

[forest valve]

well, they pretty much act like normal stalkers other than the fact that they only attack you when you pick their favorite metal up

[worldly valve]

well i found my aparent sopurce of lag, a base by some added content

more specifically, when i removed a hatch my fps shot up immediately

[nova saddle]

same

any recomendation for a inventory expansion / management mod that work with sea2sea?

[nova saddle]

hatch? why?

[forest valve]

bag equipment

but your game will be a bit laggy when opening your inventory with increased inv size

[unreal flame]

is one needed?

[nova saddle]

I think so

You have to manage a lot of items

[forest valve]

not really needed

you just gotta take more trips

question for reika : did you feel like there were things you could do to reduce the file size?, and was it a significant reduction or just 1 mb

(of seatosea)

[unreal flame]

yeah, make an assetbundle

[forest valve]

was it a considerable change?

[unreal flame]

i have no clue, it hasn't happened

[forest valve]

good point

[unreal flame]

but it'd probably be decent gains

it'd also fix up the instability on game load

[trail ether]

i am toying with the idea of adding inv resize to RB and having C2C add one row if not on hard

ormaybe 2 and 1 respectively

[trail ether]

i doubt that woukd affect file size

the textures and sounds are already compressed

[worldly valve]

hatches on a based buolt next to || nuc;lear reactor base ||

[unreal flame]

always the chance they could be more compressed

[forest valve]

just like in a hydraulic press

if you compress it enough

it will break out

(quality gets fucked up)

[nova saddle]

I dont get it - how it cause the lag spikes?

[nova saddle]

it would be great if dragon industries introduced something like a modular warehouse with sorting etc. that could be expanded

finally

[trail ether]

no

if there were it would already be in the png/ogg/etc spec

the only way to make it more cimpressed would be lossy compression

[unreal flame]

cross-asset compressions

[trail ether]

which is not acceptable

[worldly valve]

i dont have a sphisticated answer. It also wasnt a spike for me, i had gradual lag built up over 15-30 mins that slowed my fps from 60-80 to a crawl

behind the scenes it was alsop utilizing less and less of my gpu

it was quite bizzare

[nova saddle]

its the same for me

[worldly valve]

i fixed it once i remosed said hatch on base by the mentioned before base

try unbuiilding studd you buiult shortly before problem began

[nova saddle]

so... I can't easly determine the couse of lag spikes, but thats how profiler looks in game

Why bioprocessor have to take this amount of time?

also this can take a lot from time to time

I captured the lag-spike moment

I destroyed the bioprocessor and it still one the scene

all of them changing this variable

Is it a bug or intended behavior? @trail ether

I removed these gameobjects from the scene and the game became smooth again

The only small lag-spikes is causes now by BaseDrillableGrinderLogic

[trail ether]

what the hell

why are there so many bioprocessor objects

[forest valve]

man must be powering it with the aurora, holy fuck

[nova saddle]

the fun part: I have only one

And Bioprocessor objects get spawned by itself idk why

When I start the game its 0/one and after few minutes it looks like this:

So theres a bug that spawn Bioprocessor prefab for some reason randomly

[trail ether]

do you know these are all separate instances

[nova saddle]

It looks like that. Only one have different position - it the original one in my base

And another difference is that that one in my base have RoomTypeTracker component

[fiery fiber]

I hope reika makes the inv expansions a mod or something we have to build like a suit maybe

[slow basalt]

uhhhhhhhhhh do predators kill eachother in acus

[trail ether]

no but they will eat prey

[slow basalt]

cool cool

ty :)

[slow basalt]

are all of these stinkin' ||volcano corals|| or whatever they're called in the same cave? i'm missing 4 and haven't found one in like 30 minutes

[unreal flame]

||They’re all in that cave, yes. After you’ve got 75% the scanner room should work to find the rest||

(Reika, it may be a good idea to make this behavior known to the player)

[slow basalt]

holy shit thank the lord

i felt like bashing my head thru the wall

i found 1 more in that time.

[unreal flame]

I’m not sure how this feature behaves and it may mark every instance, but they should still have visual distinctions between scanned and unscanned

[slow basalt]

listen man. it's gonna make it leagues easier regardless. thank you so fucking much for telling me this

i checked scanner room at like 10 of em

woulda never known abt this

[unreal flame]

Something like a PDA line saying “sequencing at 75%, remote scanning available” or something

I know you like doing sentence mixing, though

[slow basalt]

ok only took 15 more minutes of running around after building that scanner room thank u so much again

[forest valve]

or maybe like a pda message that says "after scanning something enough, the scanner room can detect it"

[worldly valve]

The item that droos lights in caves is super helpful for these things

Not perfect tho

[nova saddle]

|| iridium can be scanned with scanner room? ||

[forest valve]

i dont see why it shouldnt be able to

[nova saddle]

I wonder - it is really possible to complete a run with Sea2Sea without dying?

[forest valve]

definitely possible

i do believe seatosea is made in a way where you only die if you dont know hwat youre doing

its not deathrun for god's sake, and even that is made to be hardcore-able

[nova saddle]

Oh true, works now

[forest valve]

well yeah scanner room only detects stuff when u load it in yourself

[slow basalt]

ummmmm... i have a feeling this plant is not supposed to be here

just floating above safe shallows

didn't plant it there ofc

was overlapping with a salve bush and couldn't harvest it until i beat the salve bush to death

[unreal flame]

happens, sometimes stuff gets sent to 0-0-0

use the command clear000 to help

[slow basalt]

ah ic

ty*

[slow basalt]

finally got my geyser particulate filter recipe, got it up and running... and proceeded to die 3 times trying to harvest it

i am rather skill issued

[worldly valve]

place it a bit less lethal;ly maybe

[slow basalt]

nah no way i'd let it happen a 4th time (i did)

in other news, can stalkers drop teeth in acu?

they've got peepers, creepvine, metal salvage, and a chew toy and no luck

[slow basalt]

was re-exploring the crag fields and found this wreck. trying to repair the door isn't working tho; progress bar stays at 0 percent. any advice?

[fiery fiber]

Yes they can but they will be collected by the acu collector thingabob

[fiery fiber]

I've run into the same thing. Sometimes when I've quit and reloaded it works. Otherwise you'll just have to warp thru the door. Dun o what the warp command is tho

[fiery fiber]

I leave chew tot and some silver. I can't remember where it tells you what they like to chew

[slow basalt]

o7 ty for all the answers friend :)

[slow basalt]

so i didn't even have to use the warp command to get in. i reloaded my game and boom im thru the door

bad news

door still isn't open

so.

[worldly valve]

lol

[slow basalt]

ok so for the ||bioprocessor|| fragments; can i find all of them in the crash zone? or should i give up and look elsewhere? been at it for a while

i'm 3/4

also the battery bank thing for the seabase is raising my battery capacity but i'm stuck at 500/900 with an active bioreactor

[worldly valve]

try unmaking and remaking

[forest valve]

quit and reload, sometimes its gonna work

[forest valve]

question for reika : will the Radiant Depths mod (mod that adds 4 types of new outcrops, one of which has nickel in it and can spawn in the blood kelp) be disabled?

[unreal flame]

Sounds like yes

[forest valve]

good point, since nickel is needed for some imo necissary upgrades before you adventure deeper

[worldly valve]

been struggling with

|| the void biome||

||triggered it once aparently but still saw nothing||

[slow basalt]

if you're referring to the silly ||plankton watchamacallits|| i got mine by saying fuck it we ball and driving past the edge a little deeper. i think the ||ghosties|| don't spawn until you get past a certain point even if you're technically in the|| void||

how i survived after? no fucking clue. seamoth was on 32% after tho

[worldly valve]

nooonot that

the

||tp||

[worldly valve]

|| i flicker in and out of the spikes, i cant seem to get it to stay there||

[slow basalt]

ok cool not smth ik about yet.

i'm at the point where i'm like getting frustrated with it so i figure i should ask; i've got the recipes for the ||liquid breathing system recharger and the fluid|| but i cannot for the life of me find the ||system itself|| i'm fairly sure i've thoughroughly explored the map for wrecks and fragments everywhere 400m and above but i still have no clue where i need to be

[worldly valve]

scanning rooms are your friend

the device scans have multiple locations

[nova saddle]

On survival?

[nova saddle]

Hint: || it’s in place that you can’t easily reach without liquid breathing system ||

[worldly valve]

yes

[slow basalt]

i'd hope so lol, it'd be really difficult to get to an item that required itself to get there

i guess i'll traipse around the map again until i find it

[nova saddle]

Oh sorry

Spelling error

[nova saddle]

*can’t easly

[slow basalt]

oh. oh joy

[forest valve]

you can

very easily get it

with just the liquid mask

even without the mask

in terms of depth atleast

||perhaps the liquid breathing fluid is unlocked with something else related to fluids||

[slow basalt]

i've got the ||fluid|| already

[forest valve]

||perhaps some of the previous survivors have managed to find a recharger||

[slow basalt]

||also got recharger||

[forest valve]

oh the system

[slow basalt]

yup

[forest valve]

ok

so uhm

you will basically have to pray to fucking god you make it out alive

[slow basalt]

uhhhhh

that doesn't sound very reassuring

:)

[forest valve]

make sure to bring atleast a couple extra ultra high capacities

[slow basalt]

oh.

oh ok.

that bad?

[forest valve]

becuase you will sometimes be barely squeezing by the depth limit

[worldly valve]

the mask makes it betetr but its a bit rough

[forest valve]

wait so do u have the mask?

[slow basalt]

oh joy

[forest valve]

basically impossible without the mask lol

[slow basalt]

uhhhh no i thought i needed the system to make it work so i didnt make it yet

should i go craft it

i cant type

[forest valve]

you do

need to make it

[worldly valve]

did you have issues getting

[slow basalt]

got it o7

guess i'm back to the void :)

[worldly valve]

||void spikes to actually stay||

[forest valve]

why the fuck you going to the void

[slow basalt]

the ||plankton thingies|| to make the sealant

[forest valve]

uhm

there are many, many safer options

[slow basalt]

...

please tell me you're joking

and i didnt go there for nothing.

[forest valve]

perhaps different biomes have them

[forest valve]

:)

[slow basalt]

i'm going to fucking sob

[worldly valve]

its not technicallyt nothing

planklton is a bitch to get until you scan it

[forest valve]

ones with enough scarcity to have enough of them in them

[worldly valve]

i dont think the glow works until post scan

[forest valve]

it does tho

[slow basalt]

uhhh no they were glowing pretty bright

[forest valve]

yeah lmao

[slow basalt]

almost as bright as the ghost trying to gnaw through the hull of my seamoth :)

[worldly valve]

but yeah in survival:/

i flicker at best

[slow basalt]

welp damn

guess i go get to work!

[worldly valve]

i just cant get them to work:

:/

[worldly valve]

|| tried over 20 times today. i just seem to flickere between the void and void spikes at best. ive only seen the void spikes flicker in front of me a couple times. no idea how to get them to stick ||

afaik its not a puzzle bvut idk

sometims i see a tiny little spark of blue for a second

[trail ether]

wait what

[worldly valve]

|| i cant seem to get to the void spikes||

|| ive had the ghost leviathans flicker in and out of existence, as well as the spikes themselves a couple times flicker in and out ||

[slow basalt]

fuckin. found it. i would have had no clue where it was if not for your help (didn't take me all that time ofc had to take a nice 4hr midday nap)

[worldly valve]

you have a whole new se of problems now sir

||so i give on trying to make the void spikes appear. no idea what im doing wrong, they just want to stay in a quantuim state and i have no camera ||

[nova saddle]

its very very hard to figure out where it was

[nova saddle]

Maybe try to go to the true location of the || spikes ||. One time I didn't get || teleported out and need to return to base from another side of the map ||

[forest valve]

||you have to go far out into the void. not just at the lifepod and striat down||

should get a little signal

[signal karma]

i really like the seatosea mod

[fiery fiber]

Ya it's a good one 👍

[signal karma]

i feel like the one i have is outdated what's like the recent version of the mod

[forest valve]

nope, what you find on reika's custom github page is the latest

why whats your problem with it

[slow basalt]

ok yeah wtf is the deal with the ||lifepod out in the middle of fuck-all nowhere in the void|| and how do i get that databox without getting my ass beat by ghosties? i tried using decoys but got very promptly ignored and murdered

[worldly valve]

yeah i resorted to game warping. ||i also found i could not make a base there but with 2 liquid packs no big deal to explore n warp. dark down there tho ||

i figure it needed to be where it was and couldnt be where thjey wanted to be

[unreal flame]

Bases can’t be built in the voidspikes by design and technical limitation

[worldly valve]

i figured that

im pretty forgiving on my rough experience on it

[forest valve]

and there is no point in it

[worldly valve]

i mean...it'd be quite handy to have a lil air bubble\

[forest valve]

kid named seamoth

(required to go to VS)

[worldly valve]

wait its a req?

i cant

go with my seaglide???

[signal karma]

No i just thought i had an outdated version

[nova saddle]

You should go with seamoth, idk if there's a blockage. How you managed to survive being near big void bois?

[forest valve]

seaglide somehow

[worldly valve]

seaglide+beacons

circle wide around them and shoot by

not beacons but

the things

[nova saddle]

HOW

[slow basalt]

ok i've made 4 attempts at this stupid databox anyone have advice on how to get to it?

[worldly valve]

so you know their direction, you circle clockwise or counterclockwise while kinda abusing the space bars mextra speed boostg if aligned with your direction moving and then shoot past them

the void ones are a lot harder than the reapers

and again also use the decoy beacons

tab in, right click, tab out

[worldly valve]

creature decoy

[slow basalt]

I tried; do I just gotta spam em every 4 or so seconds? They seem to attack it for a brief period then ignore it again

[worldly valve]

or a module

hop in vc and stream i'll try to help

[slow basalt]

uhhh what module?

[slow basalt]

cant rn

sorry D:

appreciate it tho

[nova saddle]

space bars extra speed?

[worldly valve]

subnautica combines velocities

so if you can align the "up" with the camera angle right/left+up/down you get a bit of an extra boost, i dont think needed per say but helps a lot

the real trick i find is not losing sight of the beacon, i def die to the leviathans when i lose my moment

sight*

a bit of luck helps too, as sometimes i needed 2-3 decoys sometimes i needed like 8

tho the life pod itself isnt too bad

you dont need to drop the decoy until you hear the scream