SeaToSea

[lethal crest]

there's always like 2 at the aurora, 2 at the floating island and many more in other places like grassy plateaus and underwater islands, crag fields

theres just no chance

one time i got literally surrounded by reapers in my base, there was one in every direction adn they werent leaving cause they were too close to me

Also is it normal for my compass to be like, not usable at all?

it just randomly spins around

[loud python]

Yeah

feature

[lethal crest]

is this a reference to something

it kinda feels like one

[rotund citrus]

Reapers aren't the worst by themselves as long as you have enough light to see them by, butif there's multiple the best thing to do is get the hell out of the way so only one goes for you. :)

Naturally, Persistent Reapers with high numbers means there's a lot more than one or two.

[lethal crest]

i had it on the max which is 250 i think

[unreal flame]

It is

[lethal crest]

im guessing the last (or one of the last) things i need to find on the mountain island is the ||red tablet|| mentioned in the pda

[rotund citrus]

I had it on... I think it was 50 during a test run of PR, and I saw... like, five Reapers in the Safe Shallows within an hour.

[lethal crest]

but i have searched this entire island 3 times and cannot find anything new

i might just be missing routes cause the cave is a little bit confusing with all the different paths

[loud python]

Reapers are sea puppies. Get the perimeter defense system and honestly? they're a bit annoying at most

[lethal crest]

ghosts are a bigger threat than reapers once you get the pds right

since they deal damage in one hit rather than grabbing you

[loud python]

I'll save you the trouble, because it's easy to think you missed something on the island, spend 5 hours on it, and waste all that time
||It's underwater.||

[lethal crest]

do you mean the ||underwater cave under the island? because i searched that part and found the broken battery n stuff but still missing things||

[loud python]

Ghosts remain scary, yeah. Reapers drain a bit of energy and only if you're fucking around, 40% health. Ghosts will take half your health and smetimes you can't avoid it

[rotund citrus]

This is true, but even then there's still only so much abuse it can take! You gotta recharge sometime, after all. And besides, first you actually have to get the upgrade!

[loud python]

No

Yes.

I don't mind reapers being neutralized by the PDS because you still have to find it

It's an obstacle

[rotund citrus]

I'll likely have to do NV for a while until I can get the PDS next run, then.

[worthy plume]

ok i complete it thank you, i thought the pda was saying that i missed an item to pick up or to scan so i don't really bother to scan everything

(btw the seacrawler path is so scary, but i don't even know why im scared)

[rotund citrus]

Warpers is the correct answer.

[rotund citrus]

As someone who also doesn't scan things, scan EVERYTHING you can see.

[worthy plume]

i didn't see any warper here, i must have been lucky

[worthy plume]

yeah, i will scan everything now, im gonna scout every biome and scan everything

did the ghost leviathan have ||new attack? i saw one shoot bubble near the lifepod 9||

[shell drift]

No. That is likely the result of the ghost bumping into an anchor pod, and ecocean makes it so anchor pods act as undersea mines, exploding into air bubbles if sufficiently disturbed.

[worthy plume]

the bubble do some damage?

[shell drift]

No but the explosion itself does

infact the bubbles give extra oxygen

[worthy plume]

ho ! that's nice to dodge the ghost then

in last resort if he see me it can be good

[rotund citrus]

Huh, I've had neither effect happen when slashing them with my knife.

[normal frigate]

sufficiently disturbed

[rotund citrus]

I'd like to imagine it's more than sufficient when the pod is empty afterwards.

[unreal flame]

In vanilla or c2c

[rotund citrus]

C2C

[unreal flame]

Wack

At that distance I’m pretty sure it’s supposed to kill

Actually im probably mistaken

[shell drift]

yeah I think the most damage it does is like 40 or somewhere close to that

[upper dock]

I'm curious if you can use it to kill hostile creatures

probably not, you wouldn't have any way to set it off

[rotund citrus]

The CZ base is ||in the same location as the Ecological Anomaly||, and I just noticed a Reaper that sounded like it aggroed onto me and then immediately lost interest. ||Does that area count as a "safe zone" from Reapers in their AI?||

Alright, that answers my question! :P

[rotund citrus]

Note to self: ||NEVER|| eat ||Jellyshroom Samples|| again.

Almost dehydrated to death in my base

[rotund citrus]

Alright, ||Glowing Sanctuary|| base done (for now!)

[hybrid vine]

so pretty! 🦋

[hybrid vine]

one time i died because of it

[worthy plume]

the platinum is find when you break rocks or it's already on the walls like ruby?

[worthy plume]

nvm found it, but the environment don't like me

[loud python]

The envrionment is a dick and the only other fauna I may go out of my way to kill, besides bonesharks

[rotund citrus]

Trying to go through some biomes to get my exploration caught up, and the Western Grassy Plateaus are messing with me a little? So far, I have...

• ||Ozzy||
• ||Seamoth fragments||
• ||Jellyshroom hint||
• ||Wreck with a lot of tech fragments||

What am I missing?

[unreal flame]

Maybe something behind a laser cutter door?

Oh wait, it’s that

[rotund citrus]

That?

[unreal flame]

||that one is basically an Easter egg||

[rotund citrus]

Found it, what the hell is this supposed to be?

[trail ether]

???

western grassy plateaus includes some spaces inside that wreck

but i can thikn of no easter egg there

[unreal flame]

||the gibberish entry||

[trail ether]

that is not an easter egg

[reef willow]

||whenever I get close to the base on the mountains|| my game crashes, it started by stuttering, and now crashes. It also stutters every second or so in some wrecks (and maybe locations too, I don't remember now) like for example, the one on the mountains closest to the island. I don't have a clue on how to fix it

I noticed now there's channels for mod support, should I send this there?

[unreal flame]

It’s better here, I’d say

[normal frigate]

Log?

[civic grove]

Those are known and unfortunately currently not really avoidable issues. U-Shaped Wrecks and the place you mentioned are some of the worst cases...
I recommend to not save close to those spots, it might cause your save to take ages to load.

I'm really looking forward to the point when those problems are (hopefully) fixed... C2C is great and one of very few mods which really gives Subnautica back some of its novelty and challenge regarding exploration, but the technical issues got so bad for me, I got turned off from my current playthrough... 😔

[trail ether]

I still have no idea how those wrecks are causing the issue

given i add nothing to most of them

and certainly nothing significant

[unreal flame]

Is there anything you could add to logging that would help pin it down?

[viral turret]

can you change the recipes in this mod?

[trail ether]

no because the bulk of the code that is running is not mine

as is to be expected when I add nothing of note here

[trail ether]

elaborate

[viral turret]

Oh I was wondering if there was a config somewhere where I could modify the recipes for crafting things in this mod

Also hi reika, enoying the mod so far :)

[trail ether]

no

[viral turret]

okay thank you :)

[unreal flame]

Well clearly something is happening as a result of the stuff you do change

[worthy plume]

am i suppose to have the seamoth upgrade to go at 500m but have a massive o2 consumption or i missed something?

[reef willow]

sorry I just saw it now, do you want from the mountain seabase, the wrecks or both? I need to delete so it resets and then do it again and send the qmodmanager_log-Subnautica.txt file right?

Now I also can't find where I make the recirculation mask, I was pretty sure it was in the fabricator before, it appears in the blueprints tab on the PDA so I guess it's bugged

guess I'll just spawn it with commands and put the materials required to make it in the trash, but i wanted to report that bug anyways

I guess I was wrong, the game doesn't crash, but it freezes for a long time, then comes back stuttering a lot, then freezes for a long time again, at this point I closed the game but I assume it would come back again eventually

[normal frigate]

Send the log and ill take a look

[trail ether]

but none of it makes sense

and the stuff I do change is not even active tick code

and one person did say something about Player.update() suddenly getting slow, going from <1ms to over 60

whic his 100% vanilla code

    public virtual void Update()
    {
        ProfilingUtils.BeginSample("Player.Update()");
        if (this.shotgunMode)
        {
            this.HandleShotgunMode();
        }
        this.UpdateIsUnderwater();
        this.UpdateMotorMode();
        this.ValidateEscapePod();
        this.depthClass.Update((int)this.GetDepthClass());
        this.movementSpeed = this.playerController.velocity.magnitude / 5f;
        this.depthLevel = base.transform.position.y;
        this.timeMonitor.Update(Time.time);
        this.SuffocationUpdate();
        if (!this.CanBreathe() && !this.IsFrozenStats())
        {
            float breathPeriod = this.GetBreathPeriod();
            if (this.timeMonitor.DidChangeInterval(breathPeriod, 0f))
            {
                this.oxygenMgr.RemoveOxygen(this.GetOxygenPerBreath(breathPeriod, this.depthClass.value));
                this.tookBreathEvent.Trigger(this);
            }
        }
        this.SetScubaMaskActive(this.IsUnderwater());
        this.UpdateRadiationSound();
        this.RestoreSubIfNeeded();
        this.RestoreWaterParkIfNeeded();
        this.UpdateItemHolstering();
        this.infectedMixin.UpdateInfectionShading();
        ProfilingUtils.EndSample(null);
    }```

not sure if they speifically meant this exact function or "within this function, including ones it calls, possibly recursively"

[unreal flame]

okay, that doesn't change anything about how there's clearly some issue that only arises when your mods are installed

[trail ether]

yues but I change nothing that would preferentiually affect these wrecks

[normal frigate]

compatibility maybe?

or it could just be their system

[trail ether]

that is very unlikely

[warm cedar]

Could someone explain me how the|| "falling material" looks like when its landed|| because i have no idea for what im supposed to search

[reef willow]

a tiny square that emits smoke when's in the water, it's kinda hard to find, but if you go straight to it's direction you'll find it easily, maybe not everytime but yeah, it's also always on the surface, you also have only 1:30 before it desintegrates I think

[warm cedar]

On the surface of the water or the surface underwater?

[reef willow]

of the water

[warm cedar]

So its floating on the water?

[reef willow]

you can't see the smoke above the water I think, but not from afar

[reef willow]

yeah

[warm cedar]

alr thank you

[reef willow]

Here it is, in the game I exited my mountains outpost (which is right next to ||the mountains seabase||) went there and entered it, and then came back to the outpost. it seems that the log, even if I delete it, it doesn't reset, so it's only the last time I entered the game

[reef willow]

but do you have any idea why does the ||mountain seabase|| does that? because for me it's unplayable near/inside it, I'm glad I at least got everything of value of there out before it became unplayable, at least I think I did

[rotund citrus]

That would've been me. :)

[rotund citrus]

Most likely the latter?

[trail ether]

it is not that much code getting called so there is not thaty much to go through

but none of it obviously should be affected

[reef willow]

you missed some blueprints, but it should be fine, at least for those depths

[worthy plume]

hmm, i don't really know where i didn't explore enough, the blueprint i missed is for the o2 consumption or it's for something else?

[reef willow]

yeah, it's for ||the recirculation mask and liquid breathing, liquid breathing only is needed for more than 500m I think, not sure though||. Do you already have the ||bioprocessor||?

did it bug or something?

[normal frigate]

Do u have wifi?

[reef willow]

it's not connected wirelessly, but yeah

[worthy plume]

i don't think i have it

[reef willow]

it will also be needed to make the ||recirculation mask||

[worthy plume]

hmmm, idk where to look, but im gonna find it somehow, thank you

[worthy plume]

i have some massive lag near this dune wreck

[unreal flame]

reika, do you add or change anything about wrecks in general that might be affecting certain wreck types disproportionately?

[worthy plume]

it's the second wreck where i have some lag issue

[warm cedar]

Why it aint repairing >:(||The wreck in cragfield||

[reef willow]

aparently it's normal in U shaped wrecks, is it lag or stutters?

[worthy plume]

it's lag

[reef willow]

for me it's stutters, idk if lag is normal

[worthy plume]

and in the other wreck it's like a freeze in regular time (idk how to say it in english)

[reef willow]

it's stutters

that's normal in some zones, and aparently the dev doesn't have a clue why it happens

[worthy plume]

yeah, it's a bit annoying but it's not unplayable for the stutters, but for the dune wreck idk if i take everything because i can't explore it properly

[reef willow]

yeah I can't explore one of the seabases because it stutters and sometimes freezes for a long time, but at least I got everything from it before it started to happen

i went to the wiki just to check if I got everything

[reef willow]

do you want me to check it for you? I mean to see what's in there

[worthy plume]

i take 2 blueprint in it, i think it's all in it

[reef willow]

does someone know if there is enough azurite in the world for me to make azurite batteries for all my tools? or will I not be able to craft some things because of that?

[loud python]

This is a semi normal bug. Unfortunately, game-breaking since you absolutely need to get that door open to progress. To make up for it, use the console command warpforward X to get in and out of that room

[viral turret]

when are you supposed to get the laser cutter? I can't find the battery recipe.

I can't seem to progress much in the auroura without it

I have to be able to get to 350 level depth before I can get the recipe?? danggg

[loud python]

No, you don't.

What you need is the azurite battery, then you need to get the materials to make it. You can get both the blueprint and the materials without needing to go that deep

[viral turret]

https://subnautica-mods.fandom.com/wiki/Aurora_Survivor_Bases#Mountains_Cave the wiki says it's in a mountain caves base at 350 meters

OH WAIT it's on the island nvm

I missed it

[trail ether]

I mean I add some worldgen to wrecks but that is hardly unique to wrecks

and some of hte wrecks people find the worst I do not even do that to

[trail ether]

stop following the wiki

[viral turret]

I haven't really been?

[unreal flame]

is magnetism applied to wrecks/bases?

[viral turret]

I've just had the recipe pinned forever and wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something easy

[trail ether]

that...could be possible

there is a way to disable magnetism

[unreal flame]

config?

[trail ether]

no

with runtime editor

set ReikaKalseki.SeaToSea.C2CHooks.skipMagnetic to true

[unreal flame]

i think an overarching magnetism toggle is probably a good idea in general due to performance overhead

[loud python]

Lag on U wrecks is one of the few really bad things C2C has

if it could be fixed, that'd be amazing

[viral turret]

yeah lag on certain wrecks is so bad it's almost unplayable for me

[viral turret]

I made the battery woooo!!!

[worthy plume]

wp

[reef willow]

as anyone tested to see if the lag/stutters is caused by the magnetism?

[trail ether]

it would not explain Player.update() getting expensive, but it could explain something

[normal frigate]

what is the magnetism? Like the compass or?

[worthy plume]

i almost lost my seamoth because of a reaper that attack me from the ground

what mod add the seamoth sink when it's too damaged?

[warm cedar]

For what can i use them?

[worthy plume]

ho it's beautiful

how i can get the thermal blade? i need to find a blueprint for that?

[reef willow]

it says in the PDA entry

[reef willow]

probably didn't find it till now

does anyone knows how to use the seamoth tether module? can't get it to work

[trail ether]

no literal magnetism

[trail ether]

turn it on and go near something it can grab

[normal frigate]

😭

[trail ether]

this sounds a loooot like what someone here was saying 😛 https://i.imgur.com/co7DAld.png

https://i.imgur.com/AtcfycE.png

[unreal flame]

New images for the whiner board, I presume

[unreal flame]

I have better luck with getting complete joke suggestions added

[upper dock]

It'd be really funny if the magnetism is somehow the cause of the wreck lag

[trail ether]

I am tempted but that board is for MC

[trail ether]

it was the cause of serious lag soon after it was added last april

N8 found it in his playthrough

it only showed up in advanced worlds with large bases

that is long since fixed

but it is not out of the question that a similar issue could apply to wrecks

[unreal flame]

Especially since the magnetism is probably the cause of background slowdown (speed 5 ran perfectly fine before it was added)

[normal frigate]

sounds like someone who is js ass at subnautica or

and doesnt have a big enough brain for a challenge mod 😭😭

[trail ether]

he is definitely a moron

for example not considering the option of getting out of a seamoth to grab something beyond its range

or considering OP as fuck the "defauilt balance" since you allegedly need to "add tons of mods to restore the the balance", which is exactly what all those people adding 30 "laser cannon, flight, and invincibility module" mods say

also I like how he specifically calls out my not seekign popularity as the goal, as if that is in and of itself a failing

[normal frigate]

well this message has more messages than any one so i dont understand the persons point

almost 10,000 messages for one mod is crazy

[normal frigate]

the person is js a wimp

seamoth is way to op

getting out of the seamoth and having to travel isnt a pain

sea to sea IS a challenge mod

and in almost every qmod log ive seen in help and support sea to sea is always in them or atleast one of reikas mods

i would like to see ej make a mod as good and as massive as sea to sea

The person didnt even try to play 🤣🤣

but they seem to understand that your not forced to download the mod, if you dont like it dont play it.

but dont let them get to you reika cause the mod is amazing ❤️

[loud python]

That's... a balance patch. That dude is shitting on you for including a balance patch with your mod....

[trail ether]

I know his type from extensive experience with it in MC - his idea of balanced is super OP god mode for trivial effort

hence the popularity of mods for SN that add laser cannon modules to the seamoth that kill anything in a single hit

[loud python]

Huh, i would have thought the opposite would be the trend: more dangerous leviathans that you can't kill

SN is not a horror game, but since people like to pretend it is, i figured a lot of people would want mods that make reapers more dangerous and spawn in more biomes

[normal frigate]

well there was supposed to be a horror aspect to it

[loud python]

It has some horror aspects. The first time I saw a reaper caused me mild PTSD and i was terrified of them for years after that

But it's not a horror game.

It's an adventure game

[normal frigate]

also with light story

[unreal flame]

It goes both ways

Especially since this game has a somewhat younger audience

Surprising number of fans shared with FNAF and such

Jurassic park and Godzilla fandoms too but those make sense

Something to think about is how a lot of the custom subs people have been putting out have been more powerful than the existing subs

Because you couldn’t really make something less useful and have it be used by players if you just inserted it into the basegame’s balance

So you end up with a bunch of alts for the subs (mostly the cyclops) that are either sidegrades or upgrades

Whereas with something like C2C, there’s a lot more room between, say, the seamoth and the cyclops for a new vehicle, or between the cyclops and the prawn

There’s also a good bit of room after c2c’s endgame for game extension (and honestly, that’s where I hope RotA will largely end up fitting into)

[upper dock]

there was a lot of outrage when UWE announced leviathans will be invincible with 2

not so much here, of course

[unreal flame]

Wow, they committed to that?

Based

[upper dock]

seemingly???

[unreal flame]

W W W W W

[upper dock]

I'm actually not certain but people were acting like it was confirmed

and they definitely were saying that was the plan as of that point

[unreal flame]

Leviathans should “take damage” but shouldn’t be killable

Taking damage would just affect their behavior (IE aggravation and/or deterrence)

@/reika you should set leviathan health to float.max

[upper dock]

don't leviathans already have like 5x HP in C2C

[unreal flame]

Probably

[upper dock]

they're technically still killable, probably, but actually take you 30 minutes

[unreal flame]

Only problem with setting leviathans to be immortal in sn1 is that they’ll move towards 000 and re-leash themselves if they take damage

I had a reaper trying to eat an ampeel and that caused it to drag itself into the shallows whenever I’d go by the area

[upper dock]

you can also tell just how much of SN's fanbase is kids by browsing around on youtube. It's largely endless Youtube Child Farming slop

[unreal flame]

Yeah

Content slop got me a gpu replacement once though so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[upper dock]

fake mods, passing real mods off as official updates, striaght up fake videos that are just animations (or sometimes just a dude talking over unmodified vanilla gameplay), sometimes just cut out the game entirely and it's just a dude talking

[unreal flame]

Fake mods?

I know there’s a lot of stuff like the Wasp Sub that never got released

[upper dock]

basically using video editing to pretend something exists that doesn't

super common with GTA videos

[unreal flame]

And stuff like stevekong’s edits

Though I was under the impression that most people knew those were jokes since he started out with “reaper leviathan in Sea of Thieves”

[upper dock]

lot of fake GTA videos where someone will make a mod for a video that isn't actually playable whatsoever, but the video is set up to perfectly hide that it's not playable (and usually the video will be framed as if the content is real, official content that people just had never found somehow)

[unreal flame]

Ohh wait so you mean half-implemented mods that they paid a modder to add to the game

[upper dock]

content farm slop

yeah

[unreal flame]

Like socks’ stuff

[upper dock]

Sock's stuff is legitimate at least though, it's not being passed off as Real Official Subnautica Update 2023

[unreal flame]

that stuff paid my rent for ten months lolmao

[upper dock]

it's sort of just a humorous thing

[unreal flame]

True enough

[upper dock]

nice lol

[unreal flame]

So the “Cthulhu mod”

[normal frigate]

anthomnia?

[unreal flame]

Yeah

[normal frigate]

oh yea

[unreal flame]

Not a bad guy overall

[normal frigate]

what u running now?

[unreal flame]

3070

[normal frigate]

ohh nice i have a 3060

did u ever find out what happened to it?

[unreal flame]

To the old gpu?

Not definitively

Could’ve been an issue triggered by a faulty driver update, or just a coincidence

[normal frigate]

well depending on what it is and somehow it miraculously works it could go up for $200+

gpu market is crazy

i ended up finding 16 gb 8x2 3200 mhz and a 3060 from a scrap build

[trail ether]

ecocean makes them like that on c2c hard mode

they take 1% damage

[normal frigate]

well they are levithans after all

[trail ether]

this is true for all games

it is thew reason for power creep in MC too

[normal frigate]

they shouldnt be able to be killed with a drill 😭

[unreal flame]

You telling me I could get 200 dollars hocking a busted GPU on the off chance the buyer can repair it?

[trail ether]

this is why I tend to favor stick over carrot

people on my server complain about that

a lot

often in those words

[normal frigate]

yea

[trail ether]

which I am sure you have seen

but I know that too much carrot gives you power creep

[normal frigate]

chips can be resatured

[unreal flame]

Yeah maybe

[normal frigate]

all a gpu really is, is js fans slapped on a stick

with a bunch of chips and memory

what was the card that broke?

[unreal flame]

1080ti

[normal frigate]

oo yea

[unreal flame]

Was refurb when I bought it

[normal frigate]

thats like $350 but lemme double check that

Is it a founders card?

1080ti’s go for $300+ usd for what im seeing

depending how long it was used for like $250

ok i got a little off topic, ill stop now lmao

[unreal flame]

Nah, asus

[unreal flame]

Good 4-5 years of regular use on top of whatever happened before refurbishment

[normal frigate]

ah more time used is less value

[viral turret]

Is there any data I can give to help you solve the lag around big wrecks? My frames stutter every second or so and it's very hard to navigate

would footage help? a log of some kind? idk

[unreal flame]

install runtime editor and alter this value

see if that changes anything

[reef willow]

I tried to do that but couldn't figure out how to change that variable in runtime editor

I noticed some logs and radio transmissions don't have audio, is it bugged for me or reika doesn't have enough people to voice over?

[normal frigate]

going to start a legacy fcs sea to sea play through today if my game doesnt lag like shit

[trail ether]

in the REPL console

[trail ether]

the latter

[normal frigate]

I can try later for you

[worthy plume]

i think my seamoth is broken

[unreal flame]

Just exit and reenter

Probably

[worthy plume]

yeah, but it happen really often

[trail ether]

I have had that happen occasionally even before C2C existed

[trail ether]

also looking at Player.update I am seeing nothing that would be affected by wrecks

there are some functions C2C patches and adds "load" to - such as o2 consumption rate - but this is constant, not in any way dependent on being in a wreck

[reef willow]

Reika if you want I could voice over one of the survivors, I have no experience in voice acting though. I just want to finish the mod before doing so

[trail ether]

you would only be able to do one

unless you are able to make several distinct voices

[reef willow]

yes of course, I'll message you again when I finish the mod then

[warm cedar]

How do i get through the lost river? 😠

[normal frigate]

uh from a blood kelp zone

[warm cedar]

Btw anyone knows where i can find this hopefully very helpfull module?

[warm cedar]

Thoose headlights are crazy

[loud python]

Don't get your hopes up, that thing eats energy like crazy. I didn't use it past the testing phase.

[warm cedar]

And where do i get it?

[loud python]

I don't remember, sorry..

[reef willow]

damn is that god?

[warm cedar]

BIG range of light 🙂

How to change the power cell without leaving the seamoth?

[normal frigate]

you cant

you have to leave

[warm cedar]

||How the hell am i supposed to get into the lava zone when i need iridium for it that is only spawning in the castle >:(||

[unreal flame]

||that's not where iridium spawns?||

||not exclusively, at least||

[warm cedar]

||Uh help i wend into the aquarium in the life pod 1 base and now im stuck in this spot 😠
My oxygen aint even goin down||

[shell drift]

restart your game and come back, that fixes it

be sure to save before entering that part

[warm cedar]

Ok imma try 🙂

[spice jacinth]

I'm sorry for being late to this. I'll put it in hints

Hint 1 ||Databox is found in a biome with a lot of flora||

Hint 2 ||The flora is required to beat the base game||

Hint 3 ||There are geysers and a story near it ||

[viral turret]

I'm having trouble gathering the phytoplankton. How many samples do I need to drive the seamoth through?

I have the upgrade and they are glowing

nvm

it's not in the typical storage it's somewhere on the front. Funky

[normal frigate]

reika is fcs and sea to sea supposed to be playable, and if so what machine can run it 😭

i only have the fcs and reikas mods enabled and im getting 40 fps

with a ryzen 7 2700x, rtx 3060, and 32 gb @3200 mhz

[viral turret]

What is fcs? :)

[normal frigate]

field creator studios

its a mod team

[reef willow]

I can't find the liquid breathing tank, and I think I've explored everything available to me

[warm cedar]

Where does ||Iridium|| spawn 😠

[unreal flame]

you've got to push your limits a bit

[worthy plume]

im looking for this too, but i have like 1 zone i didn't explore ||the underwater islands|| but im not really sure it's here because the environment is so aggressive

and i don't remember the depth of this zone

ho and i didn't explore the grand reef too because of the ghost leviathan, he really don't like me

[unreal flame]

look everywhere you can think of

[worthy plume]

🤔

[unreal flame]

and remember to keep your equipment up to spec

[worthy plume]

i think my equipment is good, or i missed something important ¯_(ツ)_/¯

but im still looking on the map

but i have those 2 points and i think im not suppose to have them rn (especially the lifepod)

[warm cedar]

The life pod is meh but you still can go to the ecological anomaly

How to get|| Iridium|| when this is not working and to get|| iridium from this i need the prawnsuit||😭 🤔

[worthy plume]

the warper spawn rate is higher with c2c?

[unreal flame]

don't believe so

[normal frigate]

how much fps r u running at??

[warm cedar]

when i did this i had around 5-10

[reef willow]

my game is like at 3fps when I'm in my main base's main room, any idea why?

also when I take my seamoth out to explore, and then I go deeper than 500m ||with only the recirculation mask and without the liquid breathing system|| I start taking damage, then get above 500m, stop taking damage, and when I enter my seamoth I start taking damage, I have to restart the game to stop taking damage while inside the seamoth, does anyone have a workaround or a fix?

[reef willow]

it also lags when I exit my base but if I pause and unpause it comes back to normal, just not inside my base

[normal frigate]

i cant even play c2c

anything under 60 fps i wont play

[reef willow]

I'm not that picky with fps, but it's becoming more and more unplayable, I don't code, but from what I understand it shouldn't even lag (that hard at least) in the first place

[loud python]

"but i have like 1 zone i didn't explore"

It's probably in the one zone you didn't explore. C2C forces you to explore ALL areas

[trail ether]

this is wrong in two separate ways

one of which is just silly

[warm cedar]

It not 😠

[normal frigate]

what..

reika is the mod dev so anything you say doesnt make any sense

reika would know bc reika made the mods.

[warm cedar]

My message was ment as a "joke"

I didnt mean to cause a confusion 👍 ||I STILL HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO GET IRIDIUM||

[normal frigate]

look

[warm cedar]

look?

[normal frigate]

for it

[warm cedar]

Since its that easy.

[woven marsh]

Hello, newish user of this mod series. Some of you may have seen me before, some not, but I come bearing news regarding my overall experience.

I finally got Ecocean working after completely reinstalling Subnautica, but there was another step necessary afterwards, according to the log file: Also installing Aqueous Engineering.

Now, doing that isn't an issue, but when I first stumbled across that mod series, I was given the impression that, barring Dragon Industries, each individual mod was independent from the rest. As this is clearly not the case, I would appreciate it if mod dependencies were thoroughly listed on the page for each part of the series, instead of just Sea to Sea.

[normal frigate]

dragon industries ⬆️

[viral turret]

|| how do I get the plasteel ingot recipe?? just picked up an ingot and it didn't give me anything. can't scan it either||

[woven marsh]

I already had that, though. The error referenced in the last unsuccessful attempt was not Dragon Industries, but Aqueous Engineering.

[normal frigate]

ah alright

[trail ether]

this might make for a good mechanic in Ecocean https://i.imgur.com/3VXWk9A.jpeg

[normal frigate]

the question mark?

[trail ether]

no

stealth kelp

[normal frigate]

ah

[warm cedar]

Would the "stealth kelp" apply to the ||glass forest?||

[trail ether]

it might be a property I add to specific flora species, possibly including new ones

[trail ether]

it would have positive gameplay effect here

@unreal flame was certainly getting dogpiled by bonesharks whenever he went into the wreck

[unreal flame]

real

[viral turret]

I'm in the bulbzone caves and my sea moth is getting hot and bouncing around. is this supposed to happen? I can exist outside with my radiation suit just fine. Feels weird

[unreal flame]

It is intentional. Some areas of that cave are hotter than others

[viral turret]

there doesn't appear to be lava or anything in the cave

[unreal flame]

There are small heat vents throughout

[viral turret]

ah

[loud python]

Bulb zone caves are no longer safe and boring.

[viral turret]

Can someone give me a hint as to where the hint is for the sea moth depth II module is? Lol

And where should I be looking for hints in game?

[unreal flame]

New PDA entries and voice lines are almost always going to have hints

Other than that, search every wreck you see, as much as you’re able

[normal frigate]

does anyone know the laggiest out of reikas mods (i alr know seatosea is one of them)

game is running like doo doo even with all of reikas mods everything except c2c and running fcs suite with it

[rotund anchor]

Is the Map mod compatible with C2C ? I assume the c2c map has alterations that won't show on the map mod.

[trail ether]

C2C does not alter the actual terrain, and the map only shows that plus certain kinds of entities (wrecks, heat vents, etc), which are standard "types" and so the map can detect regardless of provenance

that said the biome map in that map will be wrong

[upper dock]

Yeah, the map mod mostly works

just don't rely on the biome map

and don't stick to it like glue

[normal frigate]

def gonna build my base here, even if its by the reapers

biome looks awesome

[trail ether]

it looks a lot better when you do not make water invisible

[worthy plume]

For someone like me who is totally scared of this biome, i don't even do this ( but i didn't find something usefull here for me)

I had to save scum because my seamoth was destroyed by a reaper in the ||gun island cave|| 💀

[normal frigate]

I was having issue with the glass kelp area

23 fps when i look at it and load it in, 80 fps when swimming around

[trail ether]

I do not believe for a second the water rendering was what made you lag

[normal frigate]

it was loading in the glass kelp

swam down to the fps dropped, I swam away and the fps went to 80

[normal frigate]

i can try recording a video but its js loading in the kelp and being under the area that fps drops

[unreal flame]

There’s definitely lag in the glass forest

Wait do the deepvine’s materials have backface culling enabled

[normal frigate]

its also constant fps at 20 when trying to swim through them.
Was also getting lag in the grand reef extension cave

Other than that very good mod

[normal frigate]

im probably going to set up a perimeter defense and kill the leviathans near the area and set up a massive base

wish me luck lmao

[loud python]

It's gonna take you a while. They have 2x hp i think

[trail ether]

that is not a thing i have control over

it inherits whatever the cave bush has

[unreal flame]

any other material strangeness like updating every so often?

[trail ether]

??

[unreal flame]

Do things like hue changes or emissive intensity changes happen regularly

[trail ether]

yes but that should not affect anything

unity renders work like TESRs

they are rerendered every frame regardless of what, or if anything, changed

it is not like every time there is a change it queues a rerender which it then can use until another change happens

[past geyser]

@trail ether got any icons i can use for your page for your mods , i don't see anything i could make simple icons like a C2C icon but the rest i would rather have something that would better for the circle

https://silvervirus.github.io/ModdingWikiCollection/Leem.html

for an example

[unreal flame]

Apparently it’s taxing on performance

[trail ether]

most of my mods are either (or both) mostly behavioral changes and/or have a wide array of new "things" and so lack a singular "mascot" the way eg RoTA or Aci's new mod have a flagship feature

[trail ether]

where did you hear this

[unreal flame]

Sent a DM

[past geyser]

here some general simple icons i'm making

[trail ether]

well for DI I actually do have something

based on what I did here https://mods.factorio.com/mod/DragonIndustries

I used that icon for the core mod in Stellaris, Factorio, and Space Engineers

[past geyser]

nice

[trail ether]

often in that sort of "embossed" style but the original is just black line art

[unreal flame]

Hm, what would best represent sea to sea…

[past geyser]

at least i was close on it

i was gonna do two waves with 2

but people know it as c2c

[unreal flame]

Azurite is sea to sea only, right?

[trail ether]

yes

[unreal flame]

Could go with that if the mod needs a “mascot”

Or any of the flora, tbh

Though those are ecocean, aren’t they

For aqueous engineering, maybe the rock crusher?

[trail ether]

some is

[trail ether]

not the best source but it is what i found on the spot

[shell drift]

You could use a lumenshroom for EC

[trail ether]

i do have a better-quality version lying around

[unreal flame]

Agree

Auroresource could just be the Aurora I guess

[trail ether]

found the online source

https://icon-library.com/icon/dragon-icon-free-26.html

[trail ether]

or the jailbreak terminal

[past geyser]

got it thanks

[unreal flame]

Oh, that’s a good one too

[past geyser]

https://reikakalseki.github.io/imagedownloads/i-imgur-com_2FL0xNPH2.jpg here is rock crusher

https://reikakalseki.github.io/imagedownloads/i-imgur-com_2FKfhDuHb.jpg here is the arurora image

https://reikakalseki.github.io/imagedownloads/i-imgur-com_2FRampGP8.jpg those mushrooms

Exscansion seems to be mostly the scanner room

[trail ether]

yes

it is changes to how the scanner room works

[past geyser]

i guess i can just do something with the scanner room

Re(ef)balance is what its called a balance of game mechanics

for sea2sea just use the bio processor

ECCLibrary on your page is linked to the submodic link

[unreal flame]

Oh true

[past geyser]

what can i use for reefbalance

[trail ether]

RB does not add "things" at all

it is just numerical changes

just like exscansion but not even tied to a single "context" like that mod is

[upper dock]

Maybe just a classic "two cogs" icon or something like that

something abstract

[past geyser]

Default +

https://silvervirus.github.io/ModdingWikiCollection/Reika.html

so this is what i have

so the requirements exclude the mod that your checking the details

i still need to fix the links to qmods and smlhelper

[trail ether]

to continue the factorio analogy maybe like what I did with FTWeaks

https://mods.factorio.com/mod/FTweaks

[upper dock]

That would probably work, yeah

[past geyser]

O o i did look at that tooo XD

its like twocogs right now i can use that image

or customize the one i use to have a wench

[trail ether]

I would strongly advise keeping the aspect ratios

right now they are all massively squished horizontally

[past geyser]

well i'm trying to XD

[trail ether]

and it looks silly

and is hard to even make out

also do you want a higher-res version of my avatar

[past geyser]

up to you i just used the userid and found the avatar

[trail ether]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/353992362294247425/1221300752144666644/hzd_avatar_720p.png?ex=662dc375&is=661b4e75&hm=36e0352ca578e7bca8cefd42a05b185e7c1157bb668a4767e722a5e3592f5dca&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&

that is the full size version

at original resolution

[past geyser]

i can make the circles bigger but all the modders have the same circles

also i'm like a week or two in to html and css and js so kind of new

[trail ether]

i never said anything about circles

but are you saying that you are just fetching the image "remote" and rendering that in the circle

as opposed to making a new cropped image file

for that matter there probably IS a way to crop at runtime with CSS

[past geyser]

yep they are mostly straight from the site unless i didn't have anything and had to make new images

[trail ether]

it would probably be best if you made new images for all of them

especially given your site would break if I change mine if you direct-link

[past geyser]

only the images would

[trail ether]

that way you can crop accordingly too

[trail ether]

yes, but that is still breaking

[past geyser]

that fine for now i'm mostly to get everything set up

the plan is to host from the github

in folders

i'm mostly trying to get something better then just a list

https://github.com/silvervirus/ModdingWikiCollection/wiki this was the original

[viral turret]

finally found the seamoth depth module II!!

really glad I decided to search where I did before going through literally every single wreck first lmao

wow 500 meters I feel so powerful

[loud python]

That's almost halfway down the mariana trench

SN is really generous with how deep you can go safetly

My headcannon is that the planet has much less gravity.

[trail ether]

???

the mariana trench is like 11km deep

the average depth of earth's oceans is about 3km

[viral turret]

How does health regen work in this mod? does it change it?

holy fuck can the bone sharks LEAVE ME ALONE

I will personally kill all of them with my knife

I did switch to the mode that gets rid of hunger and food

[worthy plume]

I have the same problem, those thing are so annoying, you minding your business and they eat your seamoth when they see it 90km from distance

[viral turret]

bruh

looks like freedom mode gets rid of health regen. and I can't find any mods that fix it. WHYYYY

[loud python]

Brain derp

I have no idea why I was thinking of 1100 meters instead of 11000

[trail ether]

yes

[normal frigate]

why wouldnt health regen work lmao

[trail ether]

C2C both nerfs first aid kits to add a second tier (and to make players less careless), and makes all regen an over-time effect

rather than instant health

[viral turret]

The passive health Regen is what I was talking about. I think the regen relies on the food and water being high enough but in freedom mode there is no food and water

[viral turret]

I was talking about the passive health regen, my b

[trail ether]

from food and water?

[trail ether]

this should have been obvious

[viral turret]

I would assume the health would automatically regen in freedom mode like it does in Minecraft's peaceful mode

[unreal flame]

Maybe a brain coral for thematic purposes?

[unreal flame]

There’s some evidence that 4546b is smaller than earth, but also much more dense and full of metals (due to ore occurrence)

I don’t recall what the game’s actual on-land gravity is

(Though most games do use higher accelerations for earth gravity than the real world’s 9.8m/s/s)

[trail ether]

ryley's jump height far exceeds that of a human

but it might be a perspective thing

ie to look like anything at all - since everything in SN looks smaller than it is - they had to exaggerate it

same for the hills and bumps he needs to be able to jump over

[unreal flame]

It does, but Ryley also allegedly has cybernetics

I’m more concerned with what the game lists the actual gravity value as

[viral turret]

I'm at a wreck up here in the mountains. || do I have to move these boxes out of the way to get the prawn suit fragment? one is glitched inside of another and the propulsion cannon isn't moving them ||

map

[viral turret]

I did freecam and there's no way into the room with the prawn suit fragment????

nvm I figured it out

uhhh why is there a current in the vent????

am stuck

I don't think that's supposed to be there lol

help

there's a bit of a current on the way in as well. I teleported myself out

also theres the lag at the big wrecks for you to witness lol

[trail ether]

there should not be a current in the vent no

and no the boxes are just there to fill space

[viral turret]

Thank you :)

[unreal flame]

That’s good out-of-the-box thinking though

[viral turret]

Glad to hear I'm going in the right direction

I HAVE 3/4 PRAWN SUIT FRAGMENTS IM SO CLOSE

[viral turret]

I ALMOST MISSED THE THERMOBLADE OMG

[worthy plume]

👀

[orchid lintel]

heya, i was wondering if theres any other places to find the ||geyser coral||? I've spent over an hour in this cave, lugged a scanner room over but... i got nothing

at this point i've resorted to looking around with freecam but I can't find anything I've missed...

just missing this 1 piece :(

[trail ether]

no

[orchid lintel]

hm, i assume theres exactly 21 bits to scan? just can't find the last piece for the life of me :(

Not sure how I feel about these unique scan areas, they're honestly quite fun at the start but become rather frustrating by the end? The ||mushroom tree|| scan was a proper adventure at the start, but once I was missing the last scan after 5-ish trips through said area? Sadly not a fan. Though I like the idea a lot, especially as it offers much needed variety from wreck scanning.

[trail ether]

there is one more than you need

[unreal flame]

The scanner room should work once you’re past a %scanned threshold

[unreal flame]

In full agreement with this btw

[trail ether]

did i add that

i remnember it being discussed

[unreal flame]

I.. am not actually sure

Anyhow, I get the idea of having people “experience the whole cave” on paper but in practice it just doesn’t really work well if the player has to scan more than like 75% of the target objects

Very rapidly drops off from “interesting new twist on a mechanic” to “boring slog” even with the visual changes that happen upon scanning (if those have been implemented yet, even)

[coral dagger]

yeah i thought it was cool the first time through the cave and even the second

but i was in there for multiple hours trying to track down the last one

i only got it eventually after going into the code and finding the coordinates for each

[unreal flame]

I’m assuming the scanner room didn’t work, then

[onyx sapphire]

made 32 ||sealant|| for upgrades, only found out I can use the ||microbiotic gel|| to double the output.
oops?

[onyx sapphire]

ok I may of only needed 15 sealant

in the blueprints menu it doesnt show a number besides the sealed fabric recipe denoting it makes two

[unreal flame]

There’s not really an easy way to indicate that ||microbiotic gel doubles bioprocessor outputs|| in the PDA recipe menu

It’s my understanding that the recipes listed in the PDA aren’t technically the “real” bioprocessor recipes to begin with; they’re just visual proxies for them.

[loud python]

I don't remember how I figured that out.

But I figured it out right away

It's been a while, the PDA probably mentioned something that made me get it

[upper dock]

the ||mushroom tree|| was fine for me, I guess I got lucky with finding the stuff, but yeah the ||geyser coral|| was absolutely beyond miserable. It took me over an hour of just cycling through that cave over and over and over again.

[onyx sapphire]

Where do I unlock the thermoblade??

it has to be in the ||blood kelp wreck|| right? its like the only place I havent checked

[loud python]

No. It's in an area that you probably already went to, it's just a bit hidden if you forget to check a specific location that is kinda easy to miss

[onyx sapphire]

I dont NEED the thermoblade, do I?

also I think I found a bug

at least I have a habit of saving more frequently than I probably should so I didnt lose too much progress

[worthy plume]

the liquid breathing device bp is in a zone with leviathan or not?

[unreal flame]

It’s near one, I believe

[onyx sapphire]

I noticed that putting certain things in a multi-purpose room will change what it's "specialized" for, and in the case of storage, storage lockers have extra space. What causes this and what effects do other specialized categories have, if any?

[trail ether]

        public enum RoomTypes { 
            UNSPECIALIZED,
            STORAGE, //storage +1 row and col
            POWER, //generators +25%
            MECHANICAL, //machine (AE, C2C, vanilla [water filter] etc) power cost -20%, charger speed +50%
            AGRICULTURAL, //+33% harvests per plant; eatables obtained this way have +25% to food and water
            WORK, //food and water rate -20% to -25% (-1% per deco), fab speed +50%
            LEISURE, //food and water rate -67% to -80% (-2% per surplus deco), sleeping in regenerates 15-20 health (15 + surplus deco up to +5)
            ACU, //creature capacity +5, ecosystems slightly more lenient, poo rate +50%
        }```

this is eventually going to go on the site

[trail ether]

no

[trail ether]

that was added at the beginning

[trail ether]

it says it in the title...

[trail ether]

but the PDA entry does

[trail ether]

oh sealed fabric

not the sealant itself

[onyx sapphire]

yeah

the sealant recipe is accurate to how many it makes

[trail ether]

since bioproc recipes do show their count

(as does any other "delegate" recipe)

[onyx sapphire]

I wasnt aware the sealed fabric recipe made 2 and I may of made like twice as much sealant as I needed

[trail ether]

you will need it later

[onyx sapphire]

good to know

welp I guess I still have 15 sealant sitting around

glad I got like 12 power cells from around the crash zone, been using them while exploring the lost river

while they drain in the seamoth, they dont drain in your inventory

been holding filled ones in my inventory, and putting empty ones in seamoth storage

[trail ether]

they should

and in fact people have complained that they do

and if they are not doing so for you something has broken

and exploiting it is cheating

equivalent to spawning new powercells outright

[onyx sapphire]

oh I just assumed the electrochemical suit helped with this

carrying extra powercells doesnt help that much either as when put in the seamoth they drain from full to zero in less than 2 minutes

I brought 8 with me, down to 2

[onyx sapphire]

honestly wish the electrochemical suit had a model for the player

[worthy plume]

i assume it's not possible to access the upper level of this base,even if all this storage could be interesting

[onyx sapphire]

I went into a creative world and checked; there's nothing in the storages up there.

you cant access that top level without console commands

[worthy plume]

yeah that what i tough, but thank you for the information😄

[unreal flame]

Reika put that there to mess with people

[onyx sapphire]

it would of been funny if the storages in there were just filled with coffee for no fucking reason

[unreal flame]

Filled with Easter egg toys

[loud python]

Reika should fill them with an item called SN2.0

[normal frigate]

what

[worthy plume]

after a save in the cave of my previous screen my game crash because of some big freeze (i got more and more freeze th longer i stayed in the cave) and no i try to restart the game and the loading stay for like an hour now, someone know if i can fix this?

[unreal flame]

You might have to let it sit

And then once the game loads in, aim up and type in “warpforward 1000” to try and force yourself away from the area

Something about those POIs causes massive save-load delay and massive intermittent pauses that ramp up over time

[worthy plume]

Ok i will try tomorow to let the game load for some time, but i though more than 1 hour would be enough to let it load

[civic grove]

I had the same exact issue. It might take ages, but once you load, move away from the laggy base and save again, your save is kinda fixed again. But better "clear out" the cave once you are there, the problems might get worse if you return later...

[worthy plume]

it's been almost 3 hours of loading

[worthy plume]

so i started the loading at 12H when i started eating and it's still loading, so i think my save is dead now

[trail ether]

are you running out of memory or something

[worthy plume]

nop, i don't have any memory issue, when i start the loading im at 80% memory use in total

[trail ether]

that is pertty close to being full, and when you start loading at that

[worthy plume]

adk how i can resolve this because i don't have anything start beside subnautica and discord

[exotic pine]

omg thats alot of messages

[unreal flame]

Remember when I had the same sort of issue near the bases?

I’ve got like 32 GB so if loading the bases up were running through that much memory I’d call that a major issue

[coral dagger]

i had a similar issue

very long loading times, i also have 32gb

[unreal flame]

I’d be interested in seeing a comprehensive set of computer resource statistics when attempting to load the game in this circumstance

Ideally with only the game and the statistics/recording software running

[upper dock]

16GB here and this issue hit me pretty bad, trying to load in near most of the C2C "lag places" would take 10+ minutes

jellyshroom cave was the one I was most familiar with, but I quit out near ||the destroyed base in the grand reef|| and it took almost 20 minutes to load

[unreal flame]

Jellyshroom cave base shouldn’t be doing anything since that’s basegame

[upper dock]

I'm not sure if it's the cave itself or the wreck outside

I get a lot of stuttering in that area

[worthy plume]

I ''only'' have 16gb and in normal condition without being in a lag zone i load in like 1 or 2 minute max

[trail ether]

degasi or the one C2C adds

[upper dock]

||the C2C one in the side cave, with the seamoth module||

||degasi base was perfectly fine||

[trail ether]

that is not even a proper base

it is literally just a prop

a single prefab

it shares no implementation similarity with the actual abandoned bases

[upper dock]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I got crazy stuttering near it

[unreal flame]

It’s definitely an issue regardless of how the bases are implemented

[trail ether]

the point is they said they had it near a prop that has no "Baseness" to it

and not near any actual base

"bases have an issue" and "i had that issue nowhere near a base, near a thing that is entirely dissimilar from bases except that it looks like a base" are not compatible

[shell drift]

I'm kinda curious on where ||The pink leaves plant|| is found. I've played through this mod many times but I have yet to actually encounter them naturally

[remote sedge]

hell i didnt know reika made mods to factorio

[trail ether]

I have been doing that since 2015

[remote sedge]

didnt notie until today

[sudden relic]

I sent ya a dm praising ur mod but dont think ya received It

Prolly my favourite mod (although its like 7)

Btw, how did u do the void islands?

Reef editor?

[normal frigate]

what does it even do?

[normal frigate]

Iirc esper made them

[trail ether]

props

[trail ether]

wtf? no

[normal frigate]

oh thought esper made a big part of the terrain

[trail ether]

esper made TerrainPatcher

the mod

which I use

[sudden relic]

Overhauls the map with flora and interesting mechanics

[shell drift]

You're thinking of The Silence mod

[sudden relic]

And adds 3 new biomes

[normal frigate]

that was Loyonic (name probably spelled wrong)

im gonna try rotatory craft later

[sudden relic]

Hmmm

[sudden relic]

So i Guess the reef editor she working in is like an upgrade

[normal frigate]

damn reikas website doesnt work on mobile

[trail ether]

[normal frigate]

oo

what does the mod even do?

guessing rotating objects

[trail ether]

https://reikakalseki.github.io/imagedownloads/i-imgur-com_2FgKv1Uaw.png

https://reikakalseki.github.io/imagedownloads/i-imgur-com_2FOaCHSQX.png

https://reikakalseki.github.io/imagedownloads/i-imgur-com_2FE4Q2bGk.png

Why "RotaryCraft"? The power transmission. There are no wires, generators, or anything of the sort; Engines produce rotational power - torque and speed, with power being the product of the two - and it is transmitted by shafts, gearboxes, and other transmission devices to eventually reach the machines. Nearly every work-performing machine requires some minimum amount of torque, speed, or power - or combination thereof - or gains abilities at increasingly high inputs of the same.```

there is math involved

it is a more cognitively involved tech mod than "plop some RF down"

[normal frigate]

ohh

i think it would work well with my base design in atm9

[trail ether]

that pack is for an entirely different version of the game

[normal frigate]

:(

[narrow lava]

can anyone help me locate crystaline sulfur? I have searched the lost river for so long by making multiple scanners and bases and am beginning to believe it is not even in there. could someone point in the right direction?

[shell drift]

All I'll say is: It exists, but you don't gather it like you would in vanilla and it only exists in a specific area of the LR.

[narrow lava]

thx

[fresh cedar]

is c2c a finished/feature complete collection of mods?

[shell drift]

While you can download and play all 7 mods in the collection right now, they are all still being actively developed. It isn't finished per se, but rather available to the public and under active development, so many things are subject to change.

[fresh cedar]

thanks!

[cloud pollen]

i wrote the script that generates the terrain patch that reika uses, but the void islands in c2c are not actually terrain, they're regular objects afaik

[trail ether]

yes

[normal frigate]

ah alright

[onyx sapphire]

where the hell in the lost river do I find crystalline sulfur

[onyx sapphire]

WHERE THE FUCK IS IT

[onyx sapphire]

WHY CANT I FIND IT IN THESE SECTIONS OF THE LOST RIVER

GOD DAMNIT

i foudn it

||its in the deeper pockets in the brine if anyone wants to know||

[bitter kraken]

Hey, just wanted to ask - have you played vanilla?

[normal frigate]

sulfur is always found in the brine lmao

[onyx sapphire]

yeah I've played vanilla

i honestly felt like a fucking idiot after finding out that I had forgotten to check the deeper pockets under the brine

[unreal flame]

Lmao

[sudden relic]

X2

Its easier to get in the Ghost forest tho

As the brine sockets arent as deep

[onyx sapphire]

unfortunately C2C removes all hand collectable nodes of sulfur in the lost river

[sudden relic]

Oh

[untold kiln]

I assume C2C changed the final Sunbeam radio message to be locked behind something specific, instead of just time-based? Because I've been sitting around doing various random things(including exploring) for several in-game weeks since they said they were scanning for a place to land and their final message that starts the countdown is still not showing up

[sinful wagon]

Mechanical room. That sounds really useful, having fallen back on repeatedly making my power infrastructure more robust

Pictured: my power infrastructure

[untold kiln]

Ok never mind, I finally got the countdown, that took forever

[trail ether]

I add the requirement of having a seamoth

I did that after seeing it come too early for some people relative to their rate of progression and watching them slog the distance on foot

[trail ether]

build better generators

[untold kiln]

Thanks for the info! I've had a Seamoth for a long time now, I guess I might've just forgotten how long it takes the Sunbeam event chain to run

[normal frigate]

hi reika, how have u been? :-)

[sinful wagon]

I think those aren't bad considering I don't have heat protection

[trail ether]

it has not been an easy few weeks

[trail ether]

they are fairly weak

[normal frigate]

:-(

[trail ether]

C2C is designed to make you use everything

this includes better power gen that most players never bother with

ie the interior generators

[normal frigate]

i hope it gets better ❤️

[normal frigate]

Are the ampeel gens good?

i never really played c2c for that long

when its ported i definitely will play it

just legacy has bad performance

[sinful wagon]

Can't make ampeel antenna, no sealed fabric blueprint

[normal frigate]

⬆️

you could use bio reactor

[sinful wagon]

I've used them alot in small bases, but haven't gone nuts with them in my main base

[normal frigate]

what about nuclear reactors?

is the recipe changed

or just not possible to get yet

[sinful wagon]

I've been hesitant because I expect to kill myself with the radiation. But I do have a single plasteel ingot

I can't make 'em, but I found one

[normal frigate]

Are you doing a only c2c playthrough?

fcs has some pretty good power generation but comes with performances cost of alterra hub mod with it

[sinful wagon]

No fcs

[normal frigate]

ah

[untold kiln]

Was browsing through the C2C Exploration Findings entries in the PDA and found this in the Western Grassy Plateaus 😄

No clue what it means lol

But apparently I found everything over there

tfw I find the Seamoth depth module mk3 before the mk2

[untold kiln]

Prefacing this with "I'm not asking for help right now, just venting":
I'm sooooo ready to unlock the bioprocessor - literally every upgrade I've unlocked at this point requires it, but I can't find it anywhere even after putting down multiple max-range scanner rooms searching for data boxes

[sinful wagon]

I remember longing for the bioprocessor, that sucks

[untold kiln]

It's been fun, stumbling across random new resources

But it's also frustrating

Due to DeathRun, damage against me is drastically increased, but I'm still stuck with the rad suit because even though I found the reinforced dive suit box, C2C adds its own electrically-resistant(I assume) suit that I have no clue where to find

Current plan is to slam down another 4-5 scanner rooms

[trail ether]

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[untold kiln]

Neat

That's meaningless to me

[trail ether]

you will learn...eventually

[untold kiln]

😄

I look forward to it

[past geyser]

Maybe a cipher

[worthy plume]

Where is everyone hiding

[unreal flame]

The nuclear reactor doesn’t have AOE radiation in c2c

[untold kiln]

I have a minor complaint about the databoxes/fragments added by C2C and its submods - they're pretty inconsistent. All equipment is ofc in databoxes as far as I can tell(it wouldn't make any sense otherwise, the cutter upgrades notwithstanding), but the buildables are not consistent at all. The ore chunk driller and auto farmer come from databoxes, but the fluid breathing module comes from fragments.

[trail ether]

i cannot make fragment assets

i have to reuse existing meshes

since there are few if any believable models that would work as fragments for most machines, i have to use databoxes instead

[untold kiln]

I figured that was the case, it's just annoying that I don't know what I'm looking for

Like I said, minor complaint

Nothing major

[untold kiln]

I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS THING FOR HOURS 😄

[untold kiln]

...still need sealed fabric and I have no idea where to find that, yaaaaay

[loud python]

Do you have the bioprocessor yet?

[untold kiln]

Nooope

I'm sitting at 3/4

Also

The PDA lied about the ||Red Tablet||, it says it ||got thrown away at the eastern end of the mountain island, but after combing that area for like 30 minutes, I decided to look it up on the wiki and it's 200m down off the western end of the island||. Did someone get east and west confused??

[untold kiln]

I am very much not a fan of the Alkali Vines, I assumed them shrinking was a graphical bug and I would never have gone back to try to harvest them

[unreal flame]

That’s why reading the PDA is important

[unreal flame]

Hm, that does seem to be an error if it says east

[trail ether]

Did I make that mistake

which page is that on

[untold kiln]

Mountain Island

[fiery fiber]

Just got introduced to this last week. Omg! Havin% a blast. Just had to unlearn what I have learned and make myself scour every inch of everything. Awesome mod ... actually set of mods. Its causing me to make some pretty funky bases cuz I want to make acu's for EACH biome heh! Plus note ... I believe subnautica bug .... make sure acu at least 2 tall before adding tall plants otherwise they won't grow to 100% I've found

[fiery fiber]

In on the same predicament now too. Just spent last few days trying to make a laser cutter so finally able to go hunt on some wrecks. Maybe I'll find something ...

[coral dagger]

Bioprocessor is fragments not databoxes, unless that's changed

[untold kiln]

Correct, it's fragments

So's the liquid breathing refill thing

At the time I didn't know which it was, and wasn't sure which it would be because some buildables, like the auto farmer, are databoxes

[trail ether]

under exploration findings?

[trail ether]

I saw the same thing and assumed it was vanilla and intentional

[untold kiln]

Yes

[trail ether]

ok

[sinful wagon]

||A warning: always save before using the bioprocessor, it's power hungry, doesn't tell you how much it needs, and you'll lose some of the materials if you run out of power before it finishes||

[normal frigate]

i was thinking of starting a playthrough

[untold kiln]

Good to know, thanks

[normal frigate]

not sure what to do

do you people recommend fcs with it or?

[untold kiln]

FCS is pretty great, but not officially recommended

[normal frigate]

im not sure if i dont load the home catalog it breaks

i was only going to use fcs power and production

and the alterra hub and storage solutiond

[sinful wagon]

Question: ||What's up with rose lilies? Seems out of character to add a new plant but not have it scannable||

[trail ether]

it refunds the materials

but you will lose the power which was spent

[wise hound]

is c2c 2.0?

[loud python]

no

[normal frigate]

It is legacy mod

not for the living large update of subnautica

[onyx sapphire]

Came back to my save after not having played on it since the 29th of april, and now it crashes on loading in?

heres the log if this helps

[trail ether]

either upload the log to somewhere the whole thing can be viewed, or search for Exception: yourself and post that bit here

[onyx sapphire]

this is the first instance

FYI if you click the download button you can open the entire thing in notepad yourself

[fiery fiber]

Hello. So I've found this wreck in the crag field that has a door that needs to be repaired. I use repair tool on it and nothing happens. It's this a bug or am I doing something wrong?

[upper dock]

known issue, unfortunately seems to be unfixable

use a console command to warp yourself through the door

(I don't remember the command)

[fiery fiber]

Ahhh cool thx. Week try to hunt down the command

[trail ether]

this is not an error if FCS is not installed, so the actual error is elsewhere

[trail ether]

I am not downloading files from people's computers

[onyx sapphire]

its warpforward

[fiery fiber]

Awesome thx!

[onyx sapphire]

yw

[wise hound]

I looked for a good bit, but couldnt fond anything, so id like to know if there are any plans to update for 2.0, kinda feel sorry for asking, since you probably hear it a lot

[normal frigate]

reika said before "I estimate dozens of hours minimum to update to 2.0"

and reika doesnt get paid to make the mod so

time is money

[sudden relic]

Does the mod have a Patreon or smth?

[trail ether]

I have a patreon, though it probably still says MC mods on it because that is what I initially created it for

but the amount I make on patreon would not even be enough to buy a coffee (or similar priced item, given my dislike of coffee) a day

[sudden relic]

Told ya in a dm i was working on a SN mod

To pay my teammates have been learning forex

Dont wanna donate cuz of privileges but just to show my respect and support to ur work

've hit some rocks and got some good bets, too unstable tho

Once i settle It down to a consistent flow ill ask for ya PayPal, cuz u deserve da gift

How much can hurt huh?

[fiery fiber]

Question in a no spoilery way .. but is there any way to find out all the new creatures or eggs added to c2c. I've found lantern ray and am excited to see what else there is. But just wanna know if there's a way in game to find all other eggs ... gotta catch them all! 😋

[trail ether]

there is no list of them if that is what you mean

[fiery fiber]

Ok cool

Thx!

[wise hound]

ty

[onyx sapphire]

ok, here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HHcvaftVBnOww-oKTQzeSzC-l-fl4Dvm/view?usp=sharing

I just uploaded it onto my drive cause turns out paste-bin has a 512 kilobyte limit and this log went over that

[trail ether]

I am not downloading files from people's computers, regardless of what method you use to share it

post it somewhere I can see the text directly

if pastebin has a limit post it somewhere else

[onyx sapphire]

I dont think you need to download it to read it in the drive

but I could be wrong

not sure where else to post it

[normal frigate]

https://mclo.gs/Qwy7Dz7

thats the subnautica log, dont mind the minecraft logs purpose of the website lmao

[onyx sapphire]

if it works it works

[trail ether]

this log is not of any crash

I can see C2C loading in just fine

the game crashed but no mod code crashed

maybe you ran out of memory

[unreal flame]

notepad can’t execute code though

[upper dock]

yeah this seems like a memory crash or something just from a glance

[trail ether]

not the point - i have no idea what shit people have on their PCs

[unreal flame]

and you will not be exposed to it in any meaningful way by downloading what your PC considers to be a text file

[trail ether]

I have had logs people upload set off windows AV before

[unreal flame]

yeah, because they contain info that might be malware, which isn't relevant anyway because it doesn't get executed when you open it with a basic text editor

[trail ether]

I am not taking the risk

[onyx sapphire]

come to think of it, I remember saving and exiting the game in my cyclops parked near the ||base in the blood kelp trench||

I always got a lag spike when that loaded in

[unreal flame]

There is no risk.

Plain-text readers don’t execute code, and the act of downloading doesn’t normally execute files (and especially doesn’t execute/open them in a manner other than your default chosen app for that particular filetype

even if your computer were instructed to open all downloaded .log files immediately, they would only open into notepad or whatever your chosen default text editor is

[trail ether]

you realize notepad or the like can have vulnerabilities itself right

[unreal flame]

And the odds of you being subject to a zero-day vulnerability at the hands of a random user posting a fake log file is less likely than dying in a midair collision between two aircraft

[onyx sapphire]

I'm in the lost river stage I dont wanna restart all the way over 😭

[fiery fiber]

Is the range on the precursor power tap similar to thermal or different?

Oh! And good morning all. Happy ma's day

[onyx sapphire]

Ok I honestly think the issue is the fact that my logout spot was in the blood kelp trench near the ||base in it||

maybe if i can modify my player position I could possibly load in?

is there a way to do that tho

[trail ether]

you would need some kind of SN save editor

[onyx sapphire]

hmm

are they any SN save editors I can use then

ones that are compatible with modded saves

All I want to do is to move my player poistion to 0,0,0 and see if that solves anything

[past geyser]

Can't you just goto safe

[onyx sapphire]

I can't

[past geyser]

O o

Commands disabled

[onyx sapphire]

the game crashes before I can even begin to control my player

it gets through the loading screen but then it stutters a bit and crashes

[past geyser]

You got a log

[onyx sapphire]

yeah

[past geyser]

Post it please

[onyx sapphire]

let me try and find it again

[past geyser]

Unless you want to go to #❓┃help-and-support

[onyx sapphire]

I really want to recover my save as I'm at the lost river stage and I really dont want to start over

[bitter kraken]

Try to remove reika's mods (remember: DONT save if you will manage to load)

[onyx sapphire]

ok

[trail ether]

how would that solve anything

even if he loads - which is likely given you just removed all the content involved - you have not solved the actual issue and not even allowed him to get away in his actual save since all the C2C stuff is now gone

[bitter kraken]

I see some errors about DI

We are just trying to resolve an issue and im just providing some suggestions

[unreal flame]

It’s true that this doesn’t resolve the issue in a meaningful way, though

[trail ether]

i have a relevant image

2015 image https://i.imgur.com/quXitko.png

[bitter kraken]

Thats why i suggested to also not save

This method will help us realise that the issue is not with your mods and the error is a chain result of something else crashing
Or not

[unreal flame]

Wait, hold on I’ve had this issue before

You’re saying it crashes on the loading screen after a stutter?

First: do not do anything else after launching the game. Don’t tab out, switch windows at all after telling the game to launch, nothing. When the game opens, start your save up and then don’t touch anything until you’ve loaded in. If this doesn’t work and it stutters again, try freeing up computer resources when starting the game (shut down discord and web browsers if need be)

[onyx sapphire]

alright

[unreal flame]

(Reika, please make those asset bundles)

[onyx sapphire]

holy shit I got in

your advice worked

thanks

oh there's a shit load of objects at 0,0,0

[unreal flame]

Enter command clear000 to help alleviate this

[normal frigate]

oo