#SeaToSea

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trail ether
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"what is the national sport of canada"

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etc

upper dock
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yeah, those kinds of immigration exams are fairly common. Essentially requires you to have a degree + at least some experience in a field with meaningful demand

trail ether
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it will have some obscure questions too like how many people in the senate

marsh spear
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would need to study for that one

trail ether
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but it is like the G1 driver test

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as long as you get all the easy and mid ones you are fine

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you can miss the equivalent of the question asking you how many feet you need to park away from fire hydrants

marsh spear
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off the top of my head I want to say the sport is hockey but that just may be because hockey is the main cultural impact of Canada where I lived

trail ether
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just do not fail the question that asks you what shape a stop sign is

upper dock
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lmao

marsh spear
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trick question everything is triangles if it's 3d

trail ether
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basically that you are not going to be culturally incompatible in a way that is likely to cause serious social conflict

upper dock
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I wonder if there are questions on tests like that that instafail you if you miss them

trail ether
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it is very rare for people to fail but it does occasionally happen

trail ether
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usually people from really really....backwards...places

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like if you say you think women should be property...you might have issues

upper dock
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It's basically a "are you a reasonable risk of becoming a terrorist"

marsh spear
upper dock
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...blunt way for me to put it, but

marsh spear
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My only risk would be the opposite way, like

trail ether
upper dock
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yah

trail ether
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it is primarily geared at filtering out fundamentalists from the middle east - it was added in the mid 2000s, which says a lot - but it is not exlusively applicable to them

marsh spear
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well I'm happy to announce I am none of those

upper dock
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I was more thinking the new-age domestic terorrism from right-wing groups atually, didn't even think about That Implication

trail ether
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winter yes is hockey

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summer is lacrosse

upper dock
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bush-era moment (I guess that applied to canada as well?)

marsh spear
trail ether
marsh spear
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guess its a side effect of being so close

upper dock
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ah...

marsh spear
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haven't played voluntarily much (I'm an aspiring software person, lol) but I was taught both of those sports as a kid

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actually, I don't know if the people around here know what lacrosse is

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literally no one has mentioned it since I moved out west

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but basically what you're saying is once I get my degree and as long as I don't become a terrorist I should be fine

trail ether
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it is not a given but with a degree you should be on a fairly good track

upper dock
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Weirdly Lacrosse was fairly popular where I'm from (southern US)

trail ether
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especially if you have more than just an undergrad

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the big four things they test are education level, work experience, financial resources, and language skill (EN and FR)

marsh spear
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I would have a masters degree if I didn't have a massive mental health breakdown coinciding with my egg cracking and had to drop out

trail ether
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but there are others too that can have minor contributions

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hold on let me see if I can find the scoring system

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been a few years

upper dock
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oh, they do test your french skills? I wasn't sure if they did that if you were moving somewhere other than quebec

marsh spear
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I was about to ask that actually

upper dock
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I've had a passing interest in potential canadian immigration but I haven't seriously looked into it

trail ether
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they do but it is worth less than english

marsh spear
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damn another language to add to the list I need to study. sigh

trail ether
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and in day to day life you do not need French unless you are moving to QC, parts of NB, or trying to work in government

upper dock
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government just because being bilingual is a requirement, I imagine?

trail ether
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aha found it

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28 points for language skill

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25 for education

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15 for work experience

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12 for age

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10 for employment already being set up

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10 for "adaptability" which is a bit misc

marsh spear
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ah

trail ether
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currently you need 67 to qualify

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also for language only 4 of those points are for FR

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24 for first language

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for reference even assigning no points for work for me I would score 82 points

marsh spear
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well looks like as it is rn I'd get 41 points which is higher than I expected considering I don't have a degree

trail ether
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and I do not have an extensive work history and no spouse to provide benefits that way

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hell you get 12 points just for being under 35 XD

marsh spear
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(yeah lol)

trail ether
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the logic is sane - they do not want people to come here and then immediately retire

marsh spear
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fair

trail ether
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they do want people to contribute before drawing on social services

marsh spear
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well getting a bachelor's degree and then securing a work offer would instantly qualify me

trail ether
trail ether
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see? not trivial but not very hard either

marsh spear
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nice

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now back to my regularly scheduled trying to figure out college lol

trail ether
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it is not even a very enforced requirement

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there have been high-level politicians who have famously not spoken any french

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including multiple party leaders

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that said it did rather put a damper on their electoral performance in QC ridings XD

marsh spear
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looks like there's bonus points for majoring in pharmacy, is there a shortage for that or something

trail ether
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yes

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and there are indeed bonuses in certain fields

trail ether
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so you cannot just rack up 50 points with education via bonuses and then ignore the other categories

marsh spear
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yeah

trail ether
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the caps probably do change from time to time too

marsh spear
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wasn't planning on majoring in pharmacy anyway I'm a software person all the way

trail ether
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when governments adjust how much immigration we have these are the kind of dials they are usually turning

marsh spear
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ah

trail ether
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there is a raw yearly quota too but at worst that just puts you on a backlog

marsh spear
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so anyway sorry i derailed the channel. does c2c ramp up the power consumption of things? i have 2 nuclear reactors and 2 bioreactors and when the bioreactors run out of fuel the nuclear reactors aren't enough

marsh spear
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ah, i wonder what's going on then

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oh actually i have 2 thermal reactors going too don't i... what the hell

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that save file is also just kinda screwed and i think i need to restart anyway

modest shoal
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Power generation and consumption is just kinda bad in SN, you can get into situations where your generators are at full power so turn off, enough so that you can’t hit full power because the remaining gens don’t meet the consumption need

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The battery pack somewhat alleviates it by adding in a buffer, but I’ve had to use the bioreactor to hit 0 power to get everything to ā€œresetā€ and work properly a few times before

marsh spear
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ugh

wispy kelp
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@trail ether I managed to sneak up on some ||alkali vines ||

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this one

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did it a second time

trail ether
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and you are exploiting it

covert cradle
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@trail ether How does the recipe for ||sulfuric acid|| unlock? I have the ||bioprocessor|| but still cant make it.

wispy kelp
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and i wouldnt say glitch more so unintended behavior due to it being like

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in the base itself

covert cradle
wispy kelp
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im also fairly certain i can like

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sneak up on the vines just.,

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normally if i do it fast enough

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ill even get a video of it

trail ether
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it spawned below it and is coming through the floor

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this is blatantly obvious

wispy kelp
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oh i thought it was coming through it because it was placed there

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since its like the uh

trail ether
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plant positioning is random

wispy kelp
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||cave base right next to the sea treaders path and grand reef||

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uh well regardless even without the base

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im fairly certain i can sneak up on the vines

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like just out in the wild

trail ether
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yes, but not by just exploiting the fact that the LOS check is blocked by an object that is intersecting the plant

wispy kelp
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clearly this isnt intended but theres been several cases where i can just

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get insanely close to the vines and it doesnt register till i touch it

wispy kelp
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i can do that

trail ether
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if it is not hiding with you right there then something is blocking it

covert cradle
trail ether
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no

covert cradle
trail ether
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no

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other than that it will happen to you automatically

unreal flame
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hint is in the name

modest shoal
covert cradle
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thanks

neon rock
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is phytoplankton in the crater“s edge

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i dont see anything there

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can someone help me w that

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like ecocean is missing things

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lots of them

trail ether
neon rock
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btw reika does slot extender breaks ecocean?

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there are missing things

trail ether
last fossil
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This mod is a dictatorship

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Can’t even build in the void spikes

wispy kelp
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just build out from the void wall

last fossil
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Not when you teleport there

wispy kelp
last fossil
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Can’t do that when you teleport to the biome

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Cuz it’s under the grassy plateaus

trail ether
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using whatever design principles you like

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see you in 2037

modest shoal
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Nope, ima just branch your github and enable all cheats

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I'll name it cheat 2 cheat

unreal flame
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maybe i should have made this clear sooner.

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@last fossil you've been readily breaking rule 5 for all of today and significant portions of days past.

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you are also just generally being disruptive to server members, and for those reasons I am actually considering whether or not to ban you.

last fossil
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I regret nothing, mods should be able to be used in creative

unreal flame
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Or at least take it away until you’re 13 years old…

last fossil
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I’m 14 and have mental problems

unreal flame
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I don’t really care

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Goodbye

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Really, really do not like people that use ā€œoh but I have a mental conditionā€ as an excuse for bad behavior

glossy temple
silent marsh
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Sad but true

upper dock
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what a series of exchanges

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y'know how sometimes you can just tell someone is 12 on the internet?

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like when you look at someone's social media account and nothing lines up with how old they say they are?

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yeah

trail ether
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ended with him being erased from both this and the main SN server

upper dock
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yeah that sounds about right

slender stone
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It is almost impossible to collect plankton. if there is more than one plankton cluster, then the FPS drops to 5-7 😣

slender stone
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I have to restart the game for FPS to recover

trail ether
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plankton causes no issues for me but maybe that many particles is an issue for some PCs

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that said you have a pile of other mods so I am dubious it is my doing

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the hell ARE those mods

upper dock
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Plankton also cause no issues for me (outside of jumpscaring me when I don't see them and suddenly everything's blue)

trail ether
upper dock
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It's possible, stuff is always cut for a reason and it's not always time/budget

modest shoal
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Jinn probably has the same issue as I do, plankton somehow not dying when you collect it, and somehow getting in some computation loop

upper dock
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Plankton do take lke 20 seconds after I collect them to die for me

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like, they turn purple and then just hang in the air for a while before vanishing

modest shoal
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I get giga errors, and they never vanish, and I can keep collecting the same field until my filter fills up

upper dock
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hm, I don't get error spam like that but I have noticed the amount I get from each group of plankton seems highly random. One group will give me like 5 and the next will give me 15

modest shoal
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#1147624004648186009 message is what i get

trail ether
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so you probably have another mod messing with it

upper dock
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so yeah, seems they're acting normal for me except maybe the hanging around for a while

modest shoal
frank scaffold
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Sea to sea dosent work with radical tabs for some reason

modest shoal
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Well, it's not really playable without it, there's too many additions and they just go off screen

trail ether
modest shoal
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Beyond that, c2c even pops up "please use radial tabs"

frank scaffold
trail ether
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then you did it wrong

wispy kelp
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whaaaT?

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@trail ether this is cool

bitter kraken
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I remember there was an all-in-one download link somewhere, where there is like all the mods in one github page, does anyone have it?

bitter kraken
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Oh, it was under the ModsShared repository, didnt notice that
Thank you!

wispy kelp
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OH WOW.

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thats PRETTY expensive

frank scaffold
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is anyone else exprincing this

unreal flame
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What on earth happened to your storage

bitter kraken
frank scaffold
covert cradle
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Could someone check if removing their thermal plants and/or geyserparticulatefilters gives them a noticeable increase in framerate (fps)?

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Have spent a dozen or so hours on trying to get to the bottom of my fps issues with c2c and that has solved it for my second save (removing the thermal plant and geyserparticulatefilters)
Does this make any sense to you, reika?

trail ether
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also do you recognize it

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campfire

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sleeping mat

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can of marshmallows

trail ether
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does that describe yours

modest shoal
covert cradle
# trail ether does that describe yours

No, both the thermalplant and the filter where placed very near to the geyser
Already dissembled them in said save, but very similar to this, also same location

covert cradle
modest shoal
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Filter yes, but thermal plants seem to have no impact on my performance

marsh spear
modest shoal
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Pretty sure they kept working, dunno their collection rate though

marsh spear
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I'm fairly sure what vanilla base pieces - like the water filter- do is keep a timer for how long they've been unloaded, and apply all that time at once when you get back - because when you re enter a base for the first time in a while it plays the water filter sound instantly and somewhat loudly

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that's a good way to improve performance in general I think

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hell even hypixel implements that lol

covert cradle
marsh spear
covert cradle
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Thing is, 5800x and 6900xt šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

modest shoal
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5800x and a 4090 here

covert cradle
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So hardware doesn't seem to be the issue

marsh spear
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no I mean on my end

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<- no gpu, Intel Skylake CPU, SSD held on by scotch tape, etc

covert cradle
trail ether
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I have a solution

trail ether
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they are global entities

marsh spear
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oh gods why 😨

trail ether
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they exist in small number and contain many things that logically should keep working

marsh spear
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so all that basebuilding c2c is encouraging is actually nuking my pc

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this isn't a design issue on your part as much as a "my PC is not in the target range" issue but that sounds like horrible optimization on the part of UW

trail ether
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ok so let me go over how geyser filters work internally

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and this will point out two possible causes of lag

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keep in mind: A) geyser filters, like all base pieces, are CellLevel.Global, ie always loaded and B) most objects, including geysers, are not

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so this is the main tick code, called every frame (via standard Unity Update()), where seconds is the length of time since the last call in seconds (ie 1/FPS):

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        protected override void updateEntity(float seconds) {
            if (mainRenderers == null)
                mainRenderers = GetComponentsInChildren<Renderer>();
            if (!lineRenderer)
                lineRenderer = GetComponent<PowerFX>();
            if (!geyser && DIHooks.getWorldAge() > 1 && seconds > 0)
                geyser = WorldUtil.getClosest<Geyser>(transform.position);
            if (geyser && (geyser.transform.position.y > transform.position.y || Vector3.Distance(geyser.transform.position, transform.position) >= 30))
                geyser = null;
            lineRenderer.target = geyser ? geyser.gameObject : null;
            //SNUtil.writeToChat("Geyser: "+geyser+" @ "+(geyser ? geyser.transform.position.ToString() : "null"));
            if (!geyser)
                return;
            StorageContainer sc = getStorage();
            if (!sc) {
                return;
            }
            if (seconds <= 0)
                return;
            sc.hoverText = "Collect filtrate";
            
            setPowered(seconds);
            if (isPowered && geyser.erupting) {
                collectionTime += seconds;
                if (collectionTime >= GeyserFilter.PRODUCTION_RATE) {
                    if (addItemToInventory(CraftingItems.getItem(CraftingItems.Items.GeyserMinerals).TechType) > 0)
                        collectionTime = 0;
                }
            }
        }```
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the important parts are this:

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  1. when a geyser filter has no valid geyser, it will search for one
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  1. getClosest is not a cheap call, being essentually a wrapper for UnityEngine.FindObjectOfType, which iterates the entire scene
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now normally this is fine

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because it calls that only once and then caches it

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however

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A) if you place the geyser filter poorly, such that it has no valid geyser, it will check again in the next frame

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and again the frame after that

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and so on

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this is very simlar to the lag caused by the bkelp base nuclear reactor melter and crash zone bioreactor breaker entities from a few months ago, for those that remember

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well actually issue B is more similar

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issue B being that if you get far enough away, the geyser will unload but the filter will not

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this then results in - again - the filter continuously searching

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because though its target "exists", it is not loaded and thus not visible

trail ether
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the fix for this is twofold

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  1. make geyser filters shut down if the player is more than say 300m away
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a distance check is not free either but it is a HELL of a lot cheaper than FindObjectOfType

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  1. add a rate limiter to the checking, ie a cooldown of like 0.5s
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issue A needs #2 as a fix, since #1 would not resolve it, and while #2 would technically solve the lag for issue B it is still better to not pointlessly query at all when there is not going to be a valid geyser loaded

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also going to move if (seconds <= 0) return; to the top

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that way if the game is paused the tick will suspend entirely

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not a big effect but it will guarantee absolutely no impact on FPS when at the ESC menu

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going to release a fix in a bit

wispy kelp
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thats insanely expensive to craft lmao because of c2c

wispy kelp
trail ether
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had some issues i needed to resolve involving hitboxes and the like

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also a door swap i needed to do on a vanilla weck

trail ether
wispy kelp
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for fast DL

trail ether
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no

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I want people to go through the site

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not bypass all the information and then download only C2C and go "I have no idea why mod no work!!!1! :(((("

wispy kelp
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true

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this is nice

trail ether
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every time you post an image where your colors are washed out to hell it hurts

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also why are you at 4% health

wispy kelp
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also i like how it looks bwuh

coral dagger
bitter kraken
coral dagger
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i die several times every time i go to collect my traces lol

marsh spear
coral dagger
# marsh spear 😨

i legit almost quit because of the geyser coral one, eventually just went into the github and got all the coordinates from the code

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swimming in circles for hours hunting for the last two was very tediuos

marsh spear
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so i had to spawn some in

coral dagger
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ugh

marsh spear
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(i tested by using the warp command with every coordinate in the code, and a few of them just didn't have corals)

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there was also a ping from the scanner room in the abyss under the map (also with no coral there)

wispy kelp
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geyser coral is needed for

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that

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and theres 22 pieces of it?

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i dont mean joking rudely btw

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like how...spread out is the stuff??

trail ether
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for one this item is completely optional

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secondly there are only 9, and rather than be all in one place they are all in one kind of place

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thirdly said kind of place is much easier to properly comprehensively examine

wispy kelp
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im kinda curious why is geyser coral the way it is?

trail ether
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fourth several of those kinds of places are where you need to go anyway

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there are a total of five in places you do not need to go

wispy kelp
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also did you remove getting titanium from scanning fragments?

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like if you have the full blueprint

trail ether
wispy kelp
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im noticing now that when i scan fragments and i have the blueprint they vanish now

trail ether
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why would I remove that

wispy kelp
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i don't know but this didn't happen before its why im kinda confused?

coral dagger
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yeah the geyser ones aren't geographically distant from each other, it's just in a cave with tons of loopy passages and hiding spots so extremely easy to miss some

trail ether
trail ether
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to make you fully explore said cave system

wispy kelp
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uh can anyone else test this out if you scan something you have the blueprints for that if will give you titanium?

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because im currently dealing with that and the only thing ive ever done is update c2c stuff

coral dagger
marsh spear
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lmfao

wispy kelp
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genuinely asking if anyone CAN test that for me

trail ether
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it took the guy who voiced pod 15 about 20 minutes

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I was watching

trail ether
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ie did it just start now

wispy kelp
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yeah

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just started today

marsh spear
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I think the fact that even with super seaglide letting me glitch through the walls and explore the outside I STILL had trouble with that section and it turned out to be bugged anyway is uh šŸ’€ but it definitely took longer than 20 minutes to get the non bugged ones I think

trail ether
wispy kelp
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i can get a video of it

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yeah i have

trail ether
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none?

coral dagger
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tbf it probably did only take about 20-30 minutes to get a decent majority of them

wispy kelp
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i don't see any exceptions rn

trail ether
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ok

coral dagger
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the last 4-5 are what gave me the massive trouble, and after about 3 hours i got all but 2

wispy kelp
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im checking thoroughly

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like when i scanned something i checked and there was no exception

trail ether
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it makes some sense that this started, but only some

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however

marsh spear
trail ether
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       public static void onRedundantFragmentScan() {
               RedundantScanEvent r = new RedundantScanEvent();
               if (onRedundantScanEvent != null)
                   onRedundantScanEvent.Invoke(r);
               if (!r.preventNormalDrop)
                   CraftData.AddToInventory(TechType.Titanium, 2, false, true);
       }```
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I replaced it with a delegate to that ^

coral dagger
trail ether
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and preventNormalDrop is by default false

wispy kelp
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i mean personally have this be a feature in hard mode id say

trail ether
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and there is nothing that sets it true atm

coral dagger
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would have been far less miserable were that an option

wispy kelp
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but nothing seems to be popping up exceptions wise

marsh spear
trail ether
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since if my method fails to be called properly, or throws an exception in the event fire, that would definitely do it

trail ether
coral dagger
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not sure if it would add anything

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doesn't really make it more difficult

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just more tedious gaterhing titanium

trail ether
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it would make you go to the aurora for titanium

coral dagger
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though auroresource helps with that anyway

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yeha

trail ether
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then again you kiiiiiind of need to do so anyway

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since even surplus-scan titanium is not enough

wispy kelp
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when scanning titanium?

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yeah no

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or scanning fragments

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nothing pops up

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trying to get a video of it

coral dagger
wispy kelp
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made a recon base for ||sunbeam wrecks||

coral dagger
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i haven't really struggled with titanium in c2c

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silver on the other hand

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bioreactor for each outpost eats it

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3 per wiring kit, 6 per advanced kit

wispy kelp
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silver is used a TON

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also really wish we could scan the ||campfire||

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BBAHAHAHAHA

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I JUST LAUNCHED A BITER AT A WARPER AND IT RECOILED BACK AND VANISHED

coral dagger
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mood

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biters are so annoying

wispy kelp
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i always carry a repulsion cannon and a propulsion

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both are useful imo

coral dagger
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they're so big

wispy kelp
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propulsion for pulling to

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repulsion for firing away

coral dagger
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i have never crafted a repulsion cannon in my life

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and i only sometimes carry propulsion

wispy kelp
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this is often what i carry

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i have not used a seaglide at all this whole run

marsh spear
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doesn't the reefbalance mod have a small tools option

coral dagger
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????????

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unhinged behaviour

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seaglide is life

marsh spear
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I use it over my seamoth a lot actually

wispy kelp
coral dagger
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though i do miss that 2.0 seaglide upgrades mod in c2c

coral dagger
wispy kelp
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i litterally explore the whole map by swimming alone

marsh spear
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super seaglide > seamoth speed

coral dagger
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reapers can snack on me and my seaglide and i come back

wispy kelp
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like genuinely

coral dagger
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if they eat my moth that is a giant problem

wispy kelp
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i know where every single brain coral is by heart

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and have swam the whole map before this

marsh spear
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why tho

wispy kelp
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its fun for me

marsh spear
wispy kelp
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i have deathrun too

coral dagger
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i got all the azurite by parking my cyclops in the mushroom forest just next to the dunes and swimming with the seaglide there and back

wispy kelp
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i litterally just side swipe reapers

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i often swim alongside them to see how goofy they act

coral dagger
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did the same for every wreck in a danger area

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built a base and seaglide swam

wispy kelp
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i also find the seaglide to be too clunky

coral dagger
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my beautiful moth must stay safe

wispy kelp
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uses up what could be more useful for oxygen

coral dagger
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it like doubles your speed

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= less O2 needed

wispy kelp
#

i have deathrun

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i cant just surface

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or go up really fast

#

both will kill me

coral dagger
#

ah

#

might be sensible in deathrun then?

wispy kelp
#

also normally in vanilla this is cheap

coral dagger
#

i've never played it seems very tedious

wispy kelp
#

a biter just fuckin bit me

#

but yeah no uh

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that and when in early game when rads are everywhere it eats energy like its NOTHING

#

biters are a massive threat in this pack too

#

they are pack hunters to the absolute highest extent

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im deadass serious watch how fast they start working together

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and killing one attracts more of them

marsh spear
#

wtf are those sounds

wispy kelp
#

music

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i listen to music

#

ah hell naw

trail ether
wispy kelp
#

biters are a threat.

#

everything will and can kill you

trail ether
wispy kelp
#

do NOT underestimate the creatures around you ESPECIALLY warpers

wispy kelp
trail ether
wispy kelp
#

its the only way to have a stable source of O2 however

wispy kelp
#

how long its been there

#

small details but it makes life

coral dagger
#

i assume it's the lifepod 14 crew?

wispy kelp
#

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Stream the full soundtrack here: https://rainworld.ffm.to/downpour

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ā–¶ Play video
coral dagger
#

so it can't have been there longer than the aurora crash

trail ether
wispy kelp
#

but yeah base pieces underwater unless i supply them with o2

#

do not let you breathe

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above water it filters the air

trail ether
#

their ency page says they are pack hunters

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and will swam injured prey

wispy kelp
#

yeah i love it

trail ether
#

but their AI normally lacks any such behavior

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and I was watching some german LPer

wispy kelp
#

its genuinely good and i love it

trail ether
#

he commented on this discrepancy

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and so I added it

coral dagger
#

šŸ”Ŗ 🐟 whenever i see a biter to sstop them swarming me

frank scaffold
#

@trail ether i need your help

wispy kelp
#

AHAHAH

#

YEAH NO

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YOU CANT JUST KNIFE THEM

#

maybe a SINGLE ONE

#

but they HURT.

coral dagger
#

yeah the single one before it gets its friends in

wispy kelp
#

Especially ESPECIALLY

#

because

#

i have damage on VERY HIGH

#

deathruns all the way up

#

and so is c2c

#

fcs is installed but thats even hard to get into

trail ether
coral dagger
#

insane

wispy kelp
#

its what causes the actually having to pump o2 to your bases and stuff

wispy kelp
#

its dating stuff somehow

frank scaffold
#

hey i think one of @trail ether mods is messing with my cyclops storage

frank scaffold
#

but yes

wispy kelp
#

and maybe not info but maybe how old the marshmallows are

#

etc

#

just small details

trail ether
#

this is a config

coral dagger
#

would it be any different to what's on the aurora though? i assumed that campfire was the lifepod 14 people

coral dagger
#

though there might be room for a joke about what they're eating

trail ether
#

that plus OW reference

wispy kelp
#

if you look at the shadows

coral dagger
#

scan the campfire and pda is rude like with the swimming was your favourite activity

frank scaffold
trail ether
#

plus nonexpiring not-water-reducing food if you plan ahead and carry some fish there

wispy kelp
#

i love the goofy lil gulper levithans

trail ether
wispy kelp
#

the fact they will mess with you and fake attack is amazing

frank scaffold
coral dagger
#

she didn't expand it that much

trail ether
coral dagger
#

it's normal inventory sized for me

wispy kelp
#

goofy el cretura

coral dagger
#

6*8

coral dagger
#

i think the red tablet

trail ether
#

ah

wispy kelp
#

OH

#

whats the red tablets recipe?

#

i think i have a mod that added it as a decoration since i like aesthetic stuff and its like...just an ion cube and i dont think thats right lmao

coral dagger
#

also i did not realise how frustrating the pre-2.0 running on land was

#

please let me see! i want my torch!!

#

no idea why they thought it was a good idea to make you put down your tool when running but glad they fixed it eventually

coral dagger
#

and something red

#

avolite?

trail ether
#

it needs like 6 things

wispy kelp
#

i was going to go by the honor system

#

its what i did with the uhhh

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fuck what was it

#

the laser cutter

#

basically get all the resources and trash them then make the item

coral dagger
#

i don't think cookie is trying to cheese if they have c2c and deathrun on max settings 😭

marsh spear
#

actually is there a c2c wiki somewhere

coral dagger
#

it's semi reliable?

wispy kelp
#

i havent cheesed at all in this run so

coral dagger
wispy kelp
#

i dont mind posting proof of like

#

getting resources then showing

trail ether
#

ok @wispy kelp I confirmed that it IS erroring

coral dagger
#

unfortunately doesn't have actual numbers on most things, though if you dig around in the code a bit you can find them

trail ether
#

the redundant scan

wispy kelp
#

ah well nice that i caught that

#

THE HELL?

#

WHY IS MY CAMERA DRONE

#

WHAT?

coral dagger
#

stalker?

wispy kelp
#

N-NO?

#

???????????????????????????????

#

oh i see how this works

#

theyre LINKED

#

i didnt KNOW THAT

wispy kelp
#

thanks!

trail ether
#

also this reminds me

#

not really the channel for this but still not sure where else I would put it

coral dagger
#

that's so much magnetite

trail ether
#

did I post the tablets @unreal flame 3D printed for me

wispy kelp
#

WAIT OH MY GOD

#

YEAH I JUST NOTICED THAT

coral dagger
#

where do you even get it? i've basically cleared out the mushroom caves

wispy kelp
#

MAGNETITE 3X BAR

unreal flame
#

You probably have

wispy kelp
#

||asteroid||

coral dagger
wispy kelp
#

also reason i parked my recon room here was its a nexus point

#

mountains AND the forest.

marsh spear
#

is there a usable c2c wiki

#

(lol)

trail ether
wispy kelp
#

plus these are +everywhere+ down there

trail ether
coral dagger
trail ether
#

food value not shown since this is a freedom save

wispy kelp
#

are these ever useable?

trail ether
#

so reduced water

#

but not negative like cured

trail ether
coral dagger
#

too powerful for mere mortals

trail ether
#

they are canonically azurite yes

wispy kelp
marsh spear
#

well, the PDA does say that harvesting them is impossible if I remember correctly

trail ether
#

"mature" azurite crystals

wispy kelp
#

it recieved no damage

trail ether
wispy kelp
#

OHH

#

ye i should try that sometime then

#

ill have to drag one down

trail ether
#

I specifically made it ignore the meteor

#

and lava dome

wispy kelp
#

wonder if i can like...have it like.

marsh spear
wispy kelp
#

can i push these crystals..

#

and use them to kill stuff with the camera drone pushing them.

#

its SEVERE danger in that area so much stuff

coral dagger
#

lmao camera drone plus giga azurite to make glass forest safe

trail ether
trail ether
#

go ahead, take a blast to the face

#

it does not hurt

wispy kelp
#

oh ok sure

#

ill do that in a bit

#

gotta go take out laundry to apartment laundry place

trail ether
#

it looks like this redundant scan issue is a mod interaction

#

which makes sense as it caused GravTrapImproved to crap out at first and MrPurple says the dev added the hook to all of their mods

unreal flame
unreal flame
trail ether
#

because the meteor is based on the drillable quartz

trail ether
#

and released @wispy kelp

marsh spear
#

that sounds useful care to share

unreal flame
#

Indie wiki buddy

#

Will also redirect to relevant nonfandom wikis if they exist

#

IE the new Minecraft wiki

marsh spear
#

ah

upper dock
#

the scan quests are rough but I haven't had any significant issues out of them yet

#

the ||mushroom tree|| took me about 40 minutes and that's only because I wanted to go get the pathfinder tool for it lol

#

I hadn't even bothered to scan it

#

(also wanted to craft a second air tank for it)

wispy kelp
#

i based near that mushroom tree lmao

#

entirely unaware

upper dock
#

same lmao

unreal flame
#

There’s a way to speed up the last few scans, if you know what to do

wispy kelp
#

@trail ether swimming into a crystal

#

it slightly electrocutes u

trail ether
wispy kelp
#

when i can

#

my...seamoth is underground for some reason

#

guess safest way to dock this thing is to beach it then

wispy kelp
#

OK so now it shouldnt be grabbed by a reaper or something

#

how

unreal flame
#

Gravity

#

Terrain unloaded underneath it due to distance, but physics was still enabled

marsh spear
#

you've fallen for one of the classic blunders

wispy kelp
#

@trail ether isnt there a global antennae with c2c

#

that gives drones infinite range

#

HOLY HELL THIS WRECKS SHAKING TO HELL

#

!!!!

#

this wrecks so cool

trail ether
#

deep reverberating thump far below

wispy kelp
trail ether
#

no

#

it gets unlocked when you build a scanner room

#

if it did not for you then other mods are interfering

wispy kelp
#

@trail ether WHAT

#

OH MY GOD I NEVER NOTICED THIS

#

or THIS.

trail ether
wispy kelp
trail ether
#

yes

#

it does

wispy kelp
#

i was in the WRECK when that happened

trail ether
#

ah

wispy kelp
#

holy crap thats AMAZING.

trail ether
#

it is suppoed to require you A) be looking and B) have a clear line of sight before it does

#

to ensure you cannot miss it

trail ether
wispy kelp
#

i opened that door

#

and just saw it open to water

#

it had to have happened when i was opening the door

#

oh shit yo

coral dagger
#

honestly i found that kind of annoying to use as there's no autocrafting or item transport functionality

#

it just fills up

#

it was most useful to me for acid mushrooms

#

because you need so damn many for the acid thing

coral dagger
trail ether
#

all it is doing is not fuzzing the screen at distance

#

whic his a numerical check in the code applied to a shader

#

it is a pure balance thing

wispy kelp
#

didnt this just fall

coral dagger
#

i always assumed that limit was partially so you're not loading huge parts of the map at once, idk what's happening behind the scenes but i thought it might keep the world loaded around the player and also load it around the camera

wispy kelp
#

you can...duplicate camera drones by rebuilding the scanner room??? wtf

#

oh this is a vanilla problem

trail ether
trail ether
#

that is why cameras have loading time

upper dock
#

yeah when you control a cam it's essentially teleporting you to the camera, it doesn't keep the area around them loaded at all times

#

game would slow to a crawl with like, 3 active scanner rooms if it did

upper dock
#

so you can just take the drones out, put em in storage somewhere, and rebuild the room to get more

slender stone
#

could not find texture šŸ™„ ...and terrible lags

trail ether
#

reproduce the issue without 500 randomass mods

slender stone
#

500? haha. 100+ more believable ))

wispy kelp
#

okkkay..

#

found a weird bug where swapping my oxygen tanks...consumed them

trail ether
wispy kelp
#

honestly im curious to what im looking at like

#

does that actually add anything to the seamoth or

trail ether
#

and that there are in all likelihood a dozen things adding a ton of on-tick code to all sorts of places

wispy kelp
#

ima look more into that bug in a bit btw

trail ether
wispy kelp
#

when i swapped my o2 tank

#

it deleted the one that was on me

trail ether
#

that is not my doing

wispy kelp
#

no clue to its cause

#

it just happened earlier

#

i got off subnautica for ab it

#

doing stuff

tulip silo
#

yes for some reason swapping tanks consumes them but if you remove then place it won't do that

upper dock
trail ether
upper dock
#

I have't updated in a week or two

#

so probably started with that

trail ether
#

well I saw the lights be toggleable

#

both on my own machien and the current person doing a playthrough

#

he flashed a reaper just fine

upper dock
#

I noticed if I hit the button twice in really fast succession it will toggle them

#

but if I just hit it once it does nothing

coral dagger
upper dock
#

yeah, the press F to toggle seaglide map mod seems to not be working now either

#

so that's probably what's breaking the lights as well

#

the handheld flashlight works fine, don't have a cyclops to test the lights on that but I suspect they're fine as well

#

it's just the seaglide and seamoth

trail ether
#

try without other mods

#

all I do is change the cooldown

upper dock
#

yep, it's the seaglide map toggle mod

#

changing the cooldown seems to have completely broken it

#

and it makes you unable to toggle lights or the map on the seaglide, and lights on the seamoth

trail ether
#

wtf

coral dagger
#

the seaglide map toggle was working fine until a recent c2c update

tulip silo
#

why even add a timer to light toggle? what is the point

trail ether
coral dagger
#

is there?

#

you can change it very fast

trail ether
wary moss
#

whats up with the repair nanites that need to be scanned now?

trail ether
wary moss
#

i found repair nanites or something that i needed to scan in a dunes wreck, and since it was a scannable object similar to the bacteria and coral samples seatosea added, i figured it was from one of your mods

#

if i find another i will send a screenshot

trail ether
#

it is from AE

#

but whatr do you mean "what's up with them"

wary moss
#

what do theygo towards

#

i didnt see a use when i tried to look around the wiki

trail ether
#

look at the blueprint they (partly) unlocked

#

though I did notice it did not trigger a yellow + marker

#

I might be able to fix that

wary moss
#

oh i didnt even notice it was unlocking a blueprint until now lol, i dont check that page too often

#

are they spread across multiple wrecks or just that one?

trail ether
#

multiple

wary moss
#

alright

wary moss
#

Alright, good to know for next time use it

#

Probably gonna be a proper seatosea run, last one ended abrupt since custom craft recipes flat out didn't load

trail ether
#

that has not been changed

marsh spear
coral dagger
wispy kelp
#

i have to double click to get them to work

wary moss
#

ill make sure to realign recipes and other things when i reattempt

trail ether
trail ether
#

I added a "high beam" mode

#

three images are base lights, normal, and high beam (selected)

#

power cost rises markedly in high beam mode

#

this lets you avoid whiting everything out at short range

upper dock
#

That's a lot nicer

trail ether
#

high beam mode is still that

upper dock
#

good

unreal flame
#

having a separate cyclops highbeams module is probably fine

#

hell, just making it an inherent feature of the cyclops would be fine

wary moss
#

a neat idea would be adding a unique material to look for that would allow you to make a night vision chip, but given everything is tens to hundreds of meters away from you its a very dim and eerie vision, with hard mode making it so you cant see at all at lower depths without it, say, anywhere below 500m

#

it would look something like a darkened version of this, although anything past 100-200 meters is way too dim to see anything for it

#

credits to the night vision chip mod for sparking the idea

marsh spear
trail ether
#

as it is the light module bohters me a bit because it upends the feel of blood kelp biomes

trail ether
#

that is what i did

#

also that is a good example of code that will break in MP

#

since now maybe the module willchange type based on only a specific player - ie whoever happens to be Player.main - being in the cyclops

#

resulting in possibly only them being able to add it to the cyclops, and you not being able to add it to the seamoth as long as they aer in a cyclops

marsh spear
#

that Boneshark rn

trail ether
marsh spear
#

as a cyclist: it's awful

trail ether
#

it is just as bad if you drive a normal car

#

which I do

marsh spear
#

I'm just trying to get home from work stop using the unmatched power of the sun immediately after sunset

coral dagger
#

that's amazing

#

reika is queen

upper dock
#

wow, might actually get to see some of these areas lit up instead of only seeing like 2 inches of them

#

I wonder if it'd be possible to make a base module that boosts the strength of exterior lights at an increased power cost?

trail ether
upper dock
#

ah, wasn't aware of that

trail ether
#

I mean all unity lights stack

upper dock
#

would be nice to have something for spotlights and floodlights too, but that's a good option

trail ether
#

the problem is lights are expensive computationally

#

these lights are all counterbalanced by only being a thing when you are in/near the vehicle and having power cost to discourage continual use

#

bases have neither limitation

upper dock
#

makes sense

trail ether
#

and the new light upgrade has been released

#

along with the ability to eat more of the flora of 4546B

upper dock
#

nom

trail ether
upper dock
#

When can we eat crash fish to instantly die

unreal flame
#

i support this idea

marsh spear
#

when do we get to kill reapers and use the laser cutter to carve chunks off their flesh

unreal flame
#

that'd be squarely in the realm of "never", given reika entirely agrees with the game's philosophy on violence

marsh spear
#

it wasn't a serious suggestion

#

although they're supposed to be like 99% muscle right I bet they'd be great food

coral dagger
#

i'm vegetarian so not sure but wouldn't that be like super chewy and gross

#

need some fat surely

marsh spear
#

can't be worse than the ones that are 99% eye

unreal flame
#

all things considered, yes. it'd be rather gamey

#

then again, fish

marsh spear
#

come to think of it, there's no source of dairy on 4546b is there

#

how could ryley live with no butter on his gross eye fish

unreal flame
#

other oils exist that ought to suffice

#

certain vegetable oils are rather buttery

marsh spear
#

creepvine butter?

coral dagger
#

the bulbo trees look super greasy

#

yeah and the creepvine seeds

unreal flame
#

it's sort of hard to make any sort of objective determination on the actual quality of the meat because it is alien (hell, there's a fish in below zero that allegedly tastes like oranges when heavily salted) but reaper meat is likely to be tough due to how bulky they are and how much movement they make

marsh spear
#

time to eat the lubricant

coral dagger
#

yom

marsh spear
#

gasopods?

coral dagger
#

average modder

unreal flame
#

poison šŸ’€

#

would the game's lubricant be edible? hmm

#

i can't recall if creepvine pods are themselves edible, but creepvine is

coral dagger
#

they aren't but neither are a lot of unprocessed earth seeds

marsh spear
#

I'm not sure you want to eat the lubricant but maybe making the oils into something more palatable would be possible with the fabricator

unreal flame
#

fair

marsh spear
# unreal flame poison šŸ’€

as to this, is the poison everywhere or just in like special glands? I'd assume the latter, and the fabricator already removes organs and skeletal structures and whatnot

#

well with creepvine I can't believe it's not butter and salt, that's a decent start to make stuff less awful to eat

coral dagger
#

is the water salty

#

not sure how that would work on a water planet

marsh spear
#

a culinary expansion so you have a reason to do more than just eat entire trees of lantern fruit would be interesting

marsh spear
coral dagger
#

cause lots of salt on earth comes from erosion right?

#

wait i;m dumb

#

water filter

marsh spear
#

because when you filter it with the filter machine you get water and salt

#

yeah

trail ether
#

and have that make you lethargic

wary moss
#

i noticed auresource configs are in my browser when i open them, will they still alter my gameplay if i edit the browser tab contents?

wary moss
#

actually the lubricant from creepvines will probably be better for maintaining a deepfryer, while blood oil is used to fry things

trail ether
#

also

        UsableItemRegistry.instance.addUsableItem(bandage.TechType, (s, go) => {
            if (SeaToSeaMod.playerCanHeal() && Player.main.GetComponent<LiveMixin>().AddHealth(0.1F) > 0.05) {
                HealingOverTime ht = Player.main.gameObject.EnsureComponent<HealingOverTime>();
                ht.setValues(50, 5);
                ht.activate();
                foreach (DamageOverTime dt in Player.main.gameObject.GetComponentsInChildren<DamageOverTime>()) {
                    dt.damageRemaining = 0;
                    dt.CancelInvoke("DoDamage");
                    UnityEngine.Object.DestroyImmediate(dt);
                }
                foreach (PlayerMovementSpeedModifier ds in Player.main.gameObject.GetComponents<PlayerMovementSpeedModifier>()) {
                    if (ds.speedModifier < 1)
                        UnityEngine.Object.DestroyImmediate(ds);
                }
                Ecocean.FoodEffectSystem.instance.clearNegativeEffects();
                return true;
            }
            return false;
        });```
trail ether
#

do you want 11 different kinds of cancer

wary moss
#

just the files not set up since theyre xml, so they default to explorer links

trail ether
#

....your default program to open XMLs is the web browser???

wary moss
#

does increasing values in motherlode speed make collecting faster or slower?

trail ether
#

it is a multiplier

wary moss
#

and ive never changed it since most were .txt files

wary moss
#

okay xmls are now set to notepad like my txt files

wary moss
#

alr

#

is there a way to speed up harvesting of the aurora, i tried to alter motherlode settings and they did not affect it

upper dock
#

I've had it set to be N++ for so long now I can't remember

#

but I'm pretty sure the default for opening XMLs on windows is Edge

wary moss
#

i think motherlode harvest speed may be speeding up the node mining speed too

trail ether
#

but italso applies to the aurora

#

however if you have C2C it clamps the setting

wary moss
#

oh

#

i dont have c2c, and its seeming to still take the same time, since its the cutting tool and not the drill arm

#

it shouldve been noticable since it was from a value of 1 to a value of 4

trail ether
#

the value also has a cap

#

your own image shows this

#

as does the site

#

which is generated from that XML

wary moss
#

i reset the cap to its default after i sent the image once i figured out what the numbers would do

#

...okay so I loaded up the game after my internet cut out, I now have another message covering my screen saying it can't get a version, which is because the laptop is offline. The nessage won't go away

#

And the entire game broke severely

wary moss
trail ether
#

it is hardcoded

wary moss
#

alright well either way it affects drilling speed, where cutting the aurora uses laser cutter speed

wary moss
#

ah, then the config does not alter cutting speed for the aurora as well

#

before and after editing config it was 10% at a time at the same rate

#

after downloading a cutting speed mod it was giving 100% each time, so i got a piece of scrap instead of 10 cutting ticks, then a scrap

#

okay a better example: say each cutting tick (time between percentage increase of cutting a door, etc.) is 1 second. without the mod, before and after altering the config, it was 10, 1-second ticks to get one scrap. after downloading the cutter speed mod, it became 1 scrap every 1-second tick

trail ether
#

but again you tried to increase it beyond the limit

#

which has no effect

wary moss
#

so the 1 in that image, as you said, was invalid since i could not alter the cap. this means that it was 10

#

ontop of that, increasing from 1 to 4 also vastly sped up drilling time, meaning it was not hitting a cap there either.

trail ether
#

ah I see

#

I was going off the image assuming that I had put the cap at 1

#

but

#

so unless some other mod is overriding how much 'health' a Sealed has, or making a laser cutter do - rather than the usual fixed amount - a variable amount (eg some %) of cutting, it applies

wary moss
#

none of my mods should be colliding with that as none add walls needing to be cut, or altering the tool itself the only one adding structures altogether that isnt one of yours is the FCS suite

#

ill have to look further into it when i change up the modlist

wispy kelp
#

@trail ether

#

you could add a creature thats attracted by the lights

#

sorta similar to the lava leeches

#

in the blood kelp biomes

#

i personally use night vision because like

#

its pretty expensive with c2c on

#

also it doesnt work very well in say the glass forest

wary moss
#

i cant remember if de-extinction was compatible with c2c

upper dock
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It apparently is according to people in here, I've not tried it myself

wary moss
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im gonna download it myself then

trail ether
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nothing insurmountable

wary moss
wary moss
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Pretty sure the balance issues come in with the added nodes of crystalline Sulphur, ruby, and diamond, then some new creatures altering threat levels

trail ether
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that said c2c has some code that should help prevent anyone else from adding it

wary moss
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Is crystallized Sulphur still in the lost river with c2c, cause that's where the drill nodes spawn for de-extinction

trail ether
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oh they add drill nodes?

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not nromal ones?

tulip silo
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no it adds drill nodes

trail ether
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then there is much less of a progression issue

wary moss
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Faster collection once the prawn drill arms are unlocked is probably the reasoning

wary moss
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Ruby alone was a nightmare to collect a ton of in a regular playthrough

wary moss
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fcs is the mod that makes most things aqquired with cash

unreal flame
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yeah, I got confused

wary moss
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and most materials still need drills in their respective biomes

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although my most cheaty mod isnt even that, its the customized inventory mod since it let me increase all my inventory and storage spaces a ton

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mostly used to decrease return trips

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i remember why de-extinction was gonna be risky, this video im watching

wary moss
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now that iim used to the regular updates im not bothered by needing to redownload every time

covert cradle
tulip silo
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imagine needing a flashlight when you can bring your whole seamoth with you

wispy kelp
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@trail ether sorry for double ping but uh doing this without any suit protection or the fluid breathing lmao

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GOT IT

upper dock
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seamoth adventure

tulip silo
trail ether
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since this unlocks liquid brething

worthy plume
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hi, im starting to play sea to sea and im kinda lost about some crafting materials because i don't know how to get them, like the rare elements for circuit board, is there a wiki or something that can help me or i just need to explore more of the game before finding this?

trail ether