Raids 4 Unique Idea

[chilly merlin]

With flat armour slowly being introduced into OSRS, I think there’s room for a completely new type of utility special attack from a future raids 4 reward

Right now we have specs that reduce defense levels, but nothing that directly interacts with flat armour mechanics

Example:
If a monster has +10 flat armour, your weapon effectively loses 10 max hits

My idea would be a weapon/spec item that temporality lowers a monsters flat armour value instead of reducing defense stats.

So if a target had:
•+10 flat armour -> it could become +4
•0 flat armour -> it could become -6
• -6 flat armour-> it could become -11

This would create a completely different type of support spec that improves team DOS without simply being another defense reduction weapon.

Some rough balancing ideas
• 50-75% special attack energy
•Lowers flat armour by around 4-8
•Can only successfully affect a monsters flat once before immunity
•Non-Stackable
•temporary duration (30-90 seconds, haven’t thought this far yet)

I think this opens up an entirely new design space for PVM, while also scaling naturally into future content as flat armour becomes more common

Numbers are obviously not final— more interested in whether people think this type of mechanic would be healthy for the game.

[keen mason]

So effectively a minimum hit for a certain amount of time?

[gritty dock]

Flat armor is not the same as min hit, every hit gets increased/decreased

[chilly merlin]

Correct

[chilly merlin]

Not necessarily. Just adds to max hit potential.

[keen mason]

oh then i clearly misunderstood what flat armor was.

[chilly merlin]

Example:
If a monster has +10 flat armour, your weapon effectively loses 10 max hits

[keen mason]

So the idea would be that instead of increasing your chance to hit with defense decreasing spec, you increase the maximum potential hit instead?

[chilly merlin]

Yes

[gritty dock]

You increase every hit not just the max

-10 flat armor just means you roll your normal successful hits and 10 gets added to whatever you roll.

[keen mason]

imagine using scythe with that haha

[chilly merlin]

Yeah it would definitely require some thinking and working, more than my brain can do. I’m just giving concepts.

[keen mason]

oh i was not saying it was a bad concept. i would have upvoted it if i was not so new to the discord. i can't start reactions yet haha. I think the idea of flat armor is one that does needs to be explored further.

[gritty dock]

yeah it might be a bit stupid with scythe and it buffs faster weapons more but id definitely like to see more use of it

[keen mason]

I am honestly kind of surprised that Jagex has not done more with it already.

[rough jacinth]

This could be cool for sure

the simple fact that spec energy is inherently a tradeoff could prevent this from becoming too OP by itself. particularly if only one instance can be applied at a time

it would be similar to the red keris but applicable anywhere, ig