Update dragon platebody to 2009 version

[tawny jasper]

You mean "downdate"? xD

For 7 years it has been looking like this. I don't understand why you are trying to change this now?
I haven't seen any big community complaints for the last 7 years, so I don't know if the majority of the community would really want this, sir...

[strong arch]

Tf you editing and deleting your posts for?

[tawny jasper]

I have not deleted anything, I edited with adding: "xD" and changed "seven" to "7" to make the text more easily readable and the meaning more clear.

[strong arch]

Also, this current osrs dragon platebody looks like a red Rune platebody, while the dragon platebody released in 2009 is the correct version of the dragon platebody, and it's the one actual fans and veterans of the game recognise. It's the best version of the armour, and it's what should have been released in OSRS.

Having a platebody that looks like a recolour of a rune platebody is why nobody even wants to use it for the drip, it's ugly, and if this game calls itself OSRS it should use the accurate version.

Dragon is not usable in any scenario, it's outclassed by Bandos, Torva, and Oathplate. The only reason why any did use dragon or will use dragon is for the drip, fashionscape was big back in the day, and the dragon platebody with the full helm was a massive fashion statement, especially trimmed. Just an update, or an additional platebody would be fine.

[jolly rain]

osrs is a 2007 version of the game, pre HD etc. so you're wrong on that one.

the new design fits the old school aesthetic much better

its never been drip

[strong arch]

Well the dragon platebody was released in 2008, Torva was released in 2011, and Oathplate never existed, neither did Masori. If we go by that logic then none of these armor sets should be in OSRS

[jolly rain]

youre stretching my logic, thats not what im saying at all

[strong arch]

Because your logic falls by the wayside

[jolly rain]

it doesnt youre just very gung ho about wanting this useless change that no one cares about

[strong arch]

The Torva armor set in OSRS is the same design as the one that was released in 2011, only difference is that they removed degrading, so maybe none of these armor sets should exist in OSRS if we go by your logic? The bis should be dragon chainbody and nezy helmet, not even the faceguard

[jolly rain]

youre assuming im saying that this game only has things from 2007 which is not the case

[strong arch]

Your argument is that Jagex shouldn't update the dragon platebody to the 2008 release version because OSRS is the 2007 version of the game and the "new" red rune platebody design fits the old school aesthetic better. This logic falls far by the wayside when all of the bis armor sets and equipment in OSRS right now never existed in 2007 Runescape

[jolly rain]

i need you to read what you said again, slower, and realize how foolish you sound

[strong arch]

And it's still RS2 because RS2 was released in 2004

[jolly rain]

the 2008 d plate is HD era, so the player model and plate model are inherently not old school, but has been modified to be, also, the 2009 version is WAY more iconic than the shitty 2008 version that didnt even fit right

[strong arch]

Your logic just isn't there my guy, because Torva is the exact same as it's 2011 release version in the original Runescape

Torva isn't inherently old school and hasn't been modified to be, it's HD era the same as Dragon platebody.

[jolly rain]

its close but no its not, and has been modified

you're again forgetting HD era gave us new player models, and HD era isnt OS

[strong arch]

Yeah they just opened the helmet up in OSRS

[jolly rain]

no, there are different models, plenty of differences including the sleeves, wasitline, neck, etc

[strong arch]

Still a 2011 armor set, so if we are just sticking to 2007 era Runecape then the bis should be bandos and dragon chainbody, no Torva, no Oathplate, no Masori, Armadyl for ranged, Ahrims for mage.

In my opinion, the dragonplatebody in OSRS should either be replaced, or an aditional cosmetic upgrade or new body that reflects the original release version of the dragon platebody, preferably the 2009 version.

[jolly rain]

no one said that, your logic falls by the wayside

before you try saying more nonsense: no one cares about when things were released, only that they fit the aesthetic, which everything currently does

[strong arch]

Torva, that was released in 2011, fits the aesthetic of OSRS does it? Mmm that's some weird logic there

[jolly rain]

it does fit the aesthetic of osrs in its current implementation yes

osrs is not the same game mechanically or item catalogue wise as the 2007 game, which doesnt matter, its stupid to think thats what people want.

we care about the visuals and interactions

[strong arch]

I disagree completely. So you have Oathplate, Masori, that do not fit the aesthetic of 2007 Runescape, but you have an aversion to the 2009 version of the dragon platebody? seems like an odd double standard to take there chum

[jolly rain]

they do fit the aesthetic, aesthetic is about visuals. your logic is flawed, or you simply dont understand what aesthetic means

[strong arch]

What about the dragon platebody released in 2008 does not fit the "aesthetic" of OSRS? while armor sets like Torva, Masori, does?

[jolly rain]

the fact that its designed for an entirely different player model

[strong arch]

That's a stupid argument tbh because they used the same skeleton and armature rig just updated models and textures

[jolly rain]

now you just blatantly dont know what youre talking about, stupid idea, will vote no, but itll never see the light of day anyway

[strong arch]

It's still RS2

You seem to have some incapability of understanding how your logic falls so clumsily to the floor, you have an aversion to the 2008 version of the dragon platebody being in the 2007 version of Runescape thats called OSRS, but you are fine with a 2011 Torva, Masori, Oathplate, (never existed in Runescape) all of these armor sets were not released in 2007 or before then, or never existed at all, and do not fit the aesthetic of OSRS. The Aesthetic of armor sets in 2007 Runescape were Bandos and Dragon chainbody, hell most average people their best was going to be Rune armor.

[jolly rain]

incredible misunderstanding of what aesthetic means, i recommend googling it

[strong arch]

Masori and Oathplate do not fit the aesthetic of OSRS at all

[jolly rain]

they do, quite well actually. if you dont know what aesthetic means just say that

[strong arch]

You are completely disingenuous in your arguments because you say that these armor sets fit the aesthetic of OSRS but Torva was released in 2011, with minor differences in the OSRS version, with different colors on the arms and an open helmet, by defintion, unless it has major changes that completely alter it to look like a Rune platebody like the dragon currently is, because we cant have the 2009 original version of the dragon platebody because it doesn't fit the aesthetic of OSRS? And the red Rune platebody does fit it? But the Torva that had no major changes, and came 3 years after the dragon platebody, does? Your logic doesn't make sense at all, and you are being obtuse on purpose.

If we go by your logic then I would suggest that the team behind OSRS make the Torva armor set to look like a purple and grey recolour of the Rune plate set

[jolly rain]

notice the spikes, decal on chest, thick calf regions, oathplate also features a plume which is present on every smithable metal fullhelm in the game

you simply dont understand my arguments, because youre clouded by your wild need to have YOUR preferred version of something and think "aesthetic" means "it has to look like barrows because thats what was in the game at the time! you cant add new things! thats not what aesthetic means!" which is CATEGORICALLY incorrect and you just simply refuse to see that.

[strong arch]

Doesn't fit the 2007 Runescape aesthetic at all dude

If the Dragon platebody in OSRS does fit the aesthetic, then they should make the Torva armor set a purple and grey recolor of Rune, and remove Oathplate and Masori.

[jolly rain]

then you simply cant see design choices and fundamental guidelines so this conversation will go nowhere

[strong arch]

No you are just being obtuse on purpose because you don't even understand how your logic doesn't make sense

[jolly rain]

the issue is not my logic at all, its your interpretation of my logic which is wrong btw. and also a gross misinterpretation of what the word "aesthetic" means

[strong arch]

The OSRS version of Torva is virtually identic to the 2011 release version in the original Runescape apart from an open helmet and different sleeve colors, if we go by your logic that the 2009 version of the Dragon platebody does not fit the aesthetic of OSRS, then by that same logic, then Torva should not fit the aesthetic of OSRS either, because both of these armors were released after 2007.

And if your logic is that the dragon platebody in OSRS fits the aesthetic of OSRS because it looks more like a Rune platebody, then Torva should be drastically changed to look like the Rune platebody as well.

[jolly rain]

it is not and it takes 2 seconds to see that, but i dont expect you to know or understand this simple fact

[strong arch]

Torva, Oathplate, should both have big round pauldrons so that they can fit the aesthetic of OSRS just like this ugly dragon platebody does, if we go by your logic, because those big round pauldrons like the ones on the Rune platebody were what the aesthetic in 2007 Runescape was.

[jolly rain]

they do, the picture is literally right there

[strong arch]

Yeah you are being completely disingenuous and obtuse

The Oathplate pauldrons are the same size as the 2008 version of the dragon platebody, just look at them ffs

[jolly rain]

maybe you should go buy it in game so you can see how wrong you are

they just took a small sliver from the inside portion and made it black to look like separations in the armour

[strong arch]

https://tenor.com/view/smh-kanye-west-dumbass-no-gif-20416798

Infact I would say that the Oathplate set has more in common with the 2009 version of dragon than anything that ever existed in 2007, slender body, smaller pauldrons with more detail and decoration compared to Rune, both have clear differences between cloth and plate, I'd say that Oathplate would fit in the 2009 version of Runescape better than OSRS

And the OSRS version clips with skillcapes. Horrific.

[dire bobcat]

yeah the original 2009 version of the dragon armor looks so much better, it looks like something a high lvl would still use, the current dragon plate set looks like something you might wear if you are broke or a noob lol i play on hdos so i see the good dragon armor lol

[lavish stag]

It would look super out of place

If we're gonna update any dragon armor we should make the helm not look so ugly

[wild topaz]

The med helm is iconic though

[lavish stag]

Med helm is good, full helm needs an update

[wild topaz]

Things that could have been

[strong arch]

Not really when Torva is in OSRS

[strong arch]

Quality of life update

Fr I would use it just cause its the OG drip, hell the Oathplate and Bandos, I need to kill shiz with drip

All my melee skills are 99 anyway

I did try gilded but tbh I think I prefer default more

[hoary totem]

How does it look like a rune platebody?

Gaudy =/= good and is usually the opposite. The dragon platebody already leans toward gaudy

[strong arch]

What?

It's a red rune platebody with spikes on the shoulders and elbows

The original is miles better and looks distinctive from the others

[strong arch]

I discovered HDOS today lol

[dire bobcat]

looking good af

[strong arch]

I don't remember the animated whip being in 2009

Or the spikes on the legs

And the combat style

Ohhh that was 2008 im thinking of

[lavish stag]

Rs3 wiki should have a history of all models of the gear

[wild topaz]

I remember that exact whip model .

[hoary totem]

Overall a lot of people including myself feel that 2008-era graphics are awful and worse than existing graphics, and this is also reflected by how small the population of HDOS players is. “HD” in RS2 was possibly a worse change than RS3 graphics and I don’t want to downgrade this game.

[astral gate]

btw, you'll never get support if you're looking to completely replace current gear models, it's better to suggest it being an ornament kit

[strong arch]

Completely incorrect about 2009 Runescape and comparing it to RS3 and saying its worse removes all credibility from your small brain

2009 Runescape was the absolute peak of RS2

But i wouldn't expect a kid that never played Runescape back then to understand

[hoary totem]

I did play lmao I started playing drastically less during late-RS2 due to the graphics, lore/quests/storytelling, summoning, dungeoneering, etc. taking the game in very bad an undesirable directions. The game went downhill long before EoC and the graphics are not excluded from that. Aside from all that I just like the OSRS/2007 graphic style and I don’t like “HD” where it’s just bad shaders and gaudy/overdone textures

[strong arch]

The shaders can be bad on character models i will say that

[hoary totem]

But there’s no need for you to personally attack people for having a “wrong” opinion, especially when you’re clearly in the minority opinion. You’re making a lot of incorrect assumptions

[strong arch]

Hdos has the option to turn HD off

[cosmic isle]

I was like 10 in 2009. Did they add summoning then, or later?

[timid haven]

Yeh no please take this back

[cold ridge]

insane thing to say

[cosmic isle]

I looked it up. Summoning was in the game back then so this is objectively wrong.

[strong arch]

I'll throw hands and words with anyone that puts shade on 2008/2009 Runescape

2013 was when it went to shit, and hdos has the option to tune the shaders

I tuned it to the 2008 version of RS

[rose grove]

I’ve been wanting them to add the spiked ornament kit set. I feel like it would accomplish a similar look for the platebody as the default 2009 version.

[strong arch]

I aint so sure about that one ngl

I use the default skin just cause I just like it more than gold, but now that I use hdos I might try it out with the attack cape

[dire bobcat]

you remember it, i can hear it from memory XD

but yeah, the old d plate armor looks 10000 times better, it's unique, and not just recolored rune, it has the same vibe as armadyl and bandos armor, it's own thing thats both strong and good looking

it never needed an appearance nerf, it's supposedd to be special, thats orichalcum armor, the helmet from mithril dragons minimum and the platebody (originally from tormented demons as a boss drop)

it wasn't just an upgraded d chain, that set was an achievement and it is less with both a look nerf and and obtain nerf

[warped dock]

Please refrain from bypassing the chat filter to insult other players.

It's fine for you to disagree with others, it's fine for them to disagree with you. You should be directing your energy towards convincing people that the change you want is a good idea rather than "throw hands" with anyone that doesn't like the aesthetic.

[light steppe]

osrs dragon plate body/legs are waaaay too thicc they look like granite

[light steppe]

thats the extra spikey version i believe, but yea it looks much slicker