If a bronzeman mode was implemented how would you want it to be made?

[marsh slate]

Yeah this makes sense

I think it would be a fun game mode. I'm sure lots of people who want an ironman style Pvm progression without all the grinding for resources would love this

My main is a group ironman but if I were to ever make a second account I would do a bronze man if it became an official game mode.

[inland mulch]

Imo it should also Prohibit you from buying potions you dont have the level to make or arrows etc

[wooden hazel]

the inherit problem with official bronzeman mode would be the ease at which you can boost your account with items through pvp ruining the integrity of the gamemode by default

maybe if they restricted pvp unlocks to bronzeman only, but it would still create a market place the way unranked group ironman have their market place for items

[smoky thunder]

Agreed, even more so than unranked group iron players doing sketchy deals bronzeman mode players just getting a good PK seems way too easy to cheese to make an official game mode

Aside - outside of the PvP stuff I also don't really see the appeal of bronzeman mode. Like, not having to do nearly as many chores, especially late game buying potions etc for PvM seems quite nice.. but you really still wanted to sign up for getting 4x of one unique while going 3x dry on another

And making every production skill buyable again seems like a big drawback in prestige / satisfaction.. I dislike looking at wiki XP/gp guides to figure out eg what potions or craftsbles I should be making. Something closer to this sounds more appealing:

• I can buy finished food & potions which I have the level to make
• I can buy boss drops if I have enough KC (dry protection & duplicate collection)

[marsh slate]

I would play bronze man for the enhanced pvm progression. There's a huge difference in needing to do specific bosses for drops compared to just buying the drops you want with go without ever interacting with the content.

[radiant karma]

Just block off unlocks through PvP. Easiest solution

[marsh slate]

also I think that buyable skills is fine. No need for there to be any prestige behind bronzeman

[icy epoch]

Basing it off Collection log makes sense to me:
Call it "collector mode".
Can't unlock clog slots with PvP so you can't cheat like some bronzeman.

Might be a bit of dev work though, because right now you get the item and then the log slot.

[slate hornet]

I think the only way I could see bronzeman working as an official gamemode would be

• make it so items can be obtained from pvp, but not used, unless you have the level to make it or already have it in your clog
• allow players to convert mains into bronze accounts, with their banked items following the same rules as pvp acquired items
• same hiscores as mains

I advocate for the main into bronzeman conversion largely so existing bronzeman accounts can just become official bronzeman accounts

[smoky thunder]

Game could automatically sell PvP drops

[marsh slate]

nah converting a main into bronzeman is bad

because you could have done a bunch of stuff you couldn't have done otherwise before converting. its the same reason you can go from a main to an iron

[icy epoch]

I think it's possible to convert, if there's no highscores like you suggested.

But a lot depends on the design and how hard it is to code up something that performs well.

Like I don't see how a check through clog before use can be performant (imagine places where you gear switch)

[fair cape]

For me it would sit between ironman and main accounts.

Once you got the item once the ironman way, it is unlocked and you can trade or buy it like a main.

This would exclude items from pvp as this would make it impossible to be an official gamemode (think of how many people would simply trade on a forum and then suicide to transfer that item to the bronzeman, instead of respect for your gear, people would assume you bought it in an unsavory way).

[fair cape]

I feel like this would be near impossible to do, would require manual checks etc.

Nah, just like the first ironman accounts before the gamemode never got turned into official accounts, I would not agree with allowing mains to convert to bronzeman.

I would however agree to allow ironmen to become bronzeman, but it would only check what is in your bank and every item you have received since the introduction (unless it's a clog)

[copper wren]

i think its a given that official bronzeman wouldnt do pvp for unlocks

[copper wren]

yeah i thought it would be obvious that an official mode wouldn't have pvp unlocks but i guess not

[copper wren]

idk for me it just wouldnt have pvp unlocks at all. i should have put that in the post but i thought everyone would just assume so too because of how easily it would be abused.

[smoky thunder]

Yeah you should update the original post with what you think the rules would be. It's not obvious at all that PvP unlocks wouldn't be included, considering the YouTuber who popularized it made the game mode with that in mind & there have been multiple other content creators who followed that model

[copper wren]

Yeah i tried after realizing I was wrong about that but it wont let me edit the post itself. only the title.

[copper wren]

Think i might just delete this post and make another explaining that better.