Remove the 500 Magic Exp from Medallion

[edgy fox]

This feels like a trap intentionally placed by a jmod to ruin limited builds that don’t train magic. At the very least, would the team consider adding a warning? Not sure what the lore is behind needing to give magic exp when putting together pieces of the amulet, especially when things like charging items like the new amulet, ring of the elements, etc don’t give any magic exp

[gilded widget]

Calling it a trap to hurt limited builds is a big stretch.
I get why you want it, but damn you are reaching.

[glass cradle]

I don't really see why it's an issue considering how not-useful the item is

I guess maybe restricted accounts that can't get diving gear charting? idk I don't really see a use for it, even if they made it usable in Fossil Island, but without that it's even more useless

[gilded widget]

Cant even get the mdeallion without the diving gear, so the only "upside" is you get 2 upgrade a helm+cape slot into a neck slot

[edgy fox]

People are mostly thinking the next quest will require it (maybe you have to spend a bunch of time underwater while wearing a turtle shell, thus requiring the amulet in place of a diving apparatus).

Mostly just curious on why the team didn’t put a warning in or anything

[glass cradle]

A warning would definitely be fair

[edgy fox]

https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/1p48zy3/psa_to_skill_pures_assembling_medallion_of_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Saw this — fortunately for others, this person ruined their account so others don’t have to, just sad that this was needed when a warning or no magic exp at all would’ve been just fine

[faint garden]

Worst part is you can't even use it in Fossil Island. Which is probably the one place you would ever want it at. They can obviously keep the same restrictions with the amulet as they already do with the diving gear

[worthy axle]

This is why u should (sadly) wait before doing brand new content on a limited build, but even then, im not sure if checking the wiki before every interaction (like assembling a medallion) is feasible

Who knows, maybe in the future the wiki team will make a page with all the skiller/hcim risks for sailing

A warning would be fair considering how sailing activities arent giving surprise def xp to pures either afaik - having to check something like quest rewards before doing them is fine, but accidentally ruining a maxed skiller for this is just sad

[vagrant jewel]

Imo it's just no one at Jagex thinks about account builds so there's always random stuff like this that ruins builds.

Like, 500 magic xp does nothing for regular accounts, and the medallion doesn't have a requirement to wear.

[idle turtle]

Tbh, should they? Some players restrict themselves to the most random masochistic things. I don't think it's fair to expect the devs to consider every possible snowflake account before making content

[vagrant jewel]

That's a pretty steep slippery slope argument if you're trying to compare not randomly adding token xp at the end of a grind (500 magic in this case), to something as big as considering every "every possible snowflake account".

Unlike new tile-locked/chunk-locked stuff on youtube, account builds like skillers have been around before OSRS was even made. So account builds are not "the most random masochistic things".

[edgy fox]

They have an official hiscores page for skiller builds, so at the very least they acknowledge their existence. I think at least expecting a warning before an account-ruining exp drop is fair game

[vagrant jewel]

Thankfully, Jagex listened to this feedback (probably the reddit thread did it). This suggestion has been implemented today (https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/a=13/sailing---known-issues--fixes-?oldschool=1):
"November 24th

Players will no longer receive 500 Magic XP for assembling a Medallion of the Deep."

Congrats. 🎉

[idle turtle]

They acknowledge and try to support weird play styles where they can, but I don't think it's fair to expect or feel entitled to have your snowflake account catered towards

[vagrant jewel]

By "fair to expect or feel entitled to have your snowflake account catered towards", do you mean like snowflake ironman? No one playing an account build "expects" it, that's why these suggestions and feedbacks exist.

[idle turtle]

"Level 1 magic" accounts absolutely fall under the snowflake account umbrella

[vagrant jewel]

What is the point you're trying to make and how does that relate to account builds (or 1 magic/skillers)?
Like:

1. Do ironman fall under that snowflake account umbrella in your definition?
2. How does that in any way make this suggestion less valid/agreeable?

[idle turtle]

You said Jagex doesn't consider snowflake accounts. I said they don't have a responsibility to. And Jagex themselves have said they do not cater updates to snowflake accounts, including ironmen

[edgy fox]

Jagex fixed it this can be closed ^_^