#rework dhcb

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wanton iron
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this bow is so under-whelming to use anywhere except olm.
even with bolt proc chance bp and bowfa overall out preform this item.

proposed:
1 make it 4-tick rapid
2 give it a higher passive bolt proc vs dragons.
3 increased base accuracy vs dragons.

frail glen
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bowfa and bp do not out perform this

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at olm or hydra im pretty sure

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tbow does win which i do disagree with but idk they arent gona nerf tbow

wanton iron
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my teams kill pool would strongly suggest otherwise.

im at 760 hydra mate is 1150 both tried the dhcb for solid 300+ each. i find bp with dragon darts to be 15-35 seconds faster per kill overall.

and bowfa is near same kill speed. however zero ammo upkeep.

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dhcb needs some love for being a raid rewarded item

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gotta be a reason no?

frail glen
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its legit meta though for irons to use in efficent cox

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they use shadow with bp/dhcb

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bp prob does become better when ruby goes down but it should still be good at higher hp hydra

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i have not done calcs but im pretty sure that this is case

frail glen
wanton iron
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dragon ofc

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iv tried ruby into dragon e.
ruby into diamond e
still find bp to be better

frail glen
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im all for buffing dhcb idm but i think its in a decent spot already

wanton iron
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im not askin to make it insane. just a little love.
my thinking is; why should any other item potentially out preform this when its supposed to be the best item vs dragons

idle moth
wanton iron
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if went the route to nuff tbow vs hydra theyd do what did to bandos and lower the mage lv but increase mage def

idle moth
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Not against it neccesarily either tho what rlly needs help is dhw imo

frail glen
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i was using buckler and it still was losing by 5%

wanton iron
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ill post what i use. moment

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i play around with the ring slots too

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yes rigour campd 100% of kill

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i burn the prayer

frail glen
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on olm head though dhcb is considerably better then bp though

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like 10-15%

wanton iron
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100% but reread my first post ❤️

frail glen
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ye ill check with bowfa

wanton iron
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i do use thrall too

frail glen
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nah bowfa shit

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on olm head

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like even worse then masori ddart bp

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the thing though also is on ironman u have to factor zulrah scale time

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and darts with 2tick speed will go through alot

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like its not even reccomended to bp hydra on iron even though its better over bowfa

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cuz of scale cost/darts

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this is without quiver to which would give more of an edge to dhcb (these 2calcs range pot not ovl but still gap would be big anyway)

woven lance
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Why should this be 4 tic when all other crossbows are 5 tic?

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Also it already has 30% increased accuracy for draconic creatures

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There could absolutely be a new crossbow to bring in for future content but the dhcb feels really balanced for what it is

woven lance
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An idea which does allign with your 2nd proposal.

What about for the dhcb the higher the draconic monsters hp remaining, the increased chance for a bolt proc. (For each 100hp remaining it's 1% more chance).

This would mean for hydra, vork, olm there may actually be a reason to use the dhcb.

Thoughts?

cloud belfry
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Yeah, dhcb is quite balanced
It's a pretty common item from a raid that helps fight the dragon in the raid, and is also tied with dhl at Vorkath, another major dragon boss

grim flax
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The only dragon boss it doesnt beat like bp/bowfa on hands down, is hydra. And that imo is fine since its a slayer boss so it has no defense like all the other ones

frail glen
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1 raid use case is insane value

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anything that helps in raid is good by default