If you’re only getting 2-3 kills a trip, then that’s entirely due to you having either low stats, budget gear or skill issues.
#Spider Cave Teleport (Araxxor)
spring remnant
This teleport is perfectly fine with it is. If anything needs a change, it’s the key master teleport
I’m also not trying to make fun of you, but Araxxor is not a very mechanically challenging boss either
You don’t need a scythe to be able to get more kills a trip. A bludgeon works just fine
solar aurora
spider cave teleports are pretty much perfect as is, you sustain just fine if you get good trip lengths
spring remnant
The more important thing is to not make too many mistakes and take unnecessary damages
No clue why that rate was chosen but it’s a fair rate
solar aurora
why does the exact number matter to you?
spring remnant
Also, there are alternative teleport options like the hs teleport if you feel like the spider teleport is too expensive
solar aurora
3 scroll drop at 1/14, and yeah they're multiple acceptable alternatives to using the scroll
you should be complaining about the key master scrolls
1/64 for 3 scrolls
worn pulsar
I went 200 kc before I even saw a keymaster tele T.T
spring remnant
Pretty sure it’s one of the most common drop teleport scrolls
Zulrah drops at 1/16 for 2x tele
solar aurora
I'm not having to run at all because despite not having a scythe or BIS gear, I'm able to get more than enough kills per trip to at minimum break even on teleport scrolls, if not end up with extras
spring remnant
Also, are you an Ironman or something?
worn pulsar
Adjusting it that slightly would be negligible and as-is if you have at least like a bludgeon you're getting long enough trips to sustain or profit (or you have stats/skill issue)
solar aurora
yep
worn pulsar
I didn't even notice Data sent the same thing I was typing as I typed lol
solar aurora
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the solution is not "give up and cry for the drop rates to be increased because there's simply no possible way you could get more than 3 kills per trip"
it is probably a skill issue yeah
i mean where are you running from?
worn pulsar
Surely a zamorakian hasta is better than an ursine chainmace?
solar aurora
[[hallowed crystal]]
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Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Hallowed_crystal_shard
spring remnant
If you are still learning the boss, then naturally you will find it challenging and won't get optimal kills. However, that doesn't mean the game needs to change something to cator to your learning needs
worn pulsar
Spider tele > sepulcher > poh fairy ring imo
idk where boat from ecto goes in but that's -1 inv slot anyway
ALQ
It's not that close lol
But it's closer than running from ecto
Unless you meant boat
Yeah I could see why you'd think it's gross
solar aurora
worn pulsar
Yeah so between those two I'd do fairy ring over boat probably for sure because aforementioned poh fairy ring and already have poh teles probably on you
Back to the original suggestion though
On a main you can just buy more of them
While learning and getting bad kc trips
solar aurora
you can pay a mil for "free" boat rides btw
worn pulsar
On an iron there's still plenty good alternatives
spring remnant
I'd just send some hs and get the teles
worn pulsar
you can pay a mil for "free" boat rides btw
Yeah but that's like barely any closer for having to bring an ecto
spring remnant
You get so many very quickly
You're making this suggestion because your struggling to break even on teleports so I'd say you are very much saying this is about your personal needs
Rather than trying to debate about this, maybe it will be more productive to see if your setup can be improved in any way so you can get more kills.
solar aurora
Yeah but that's like barely any closer for having to bring an ecto
yeah im more just pointing out you dont necessarily need to bring coins to use the boat
spring remnant
The difference between a good suggestion from personal experience and a bad one is that its something that's applicable to the wider community. Saying that something isn't good while you are inexperienced with a content isn't a good way to make suggestion.
No one but Jagex knows why 1/14 was chosen.
Its a pretty fair rate regardless
If you've never done cerb before, its way worse
And the run there is 2-3x longer with no alternatives
worn pulsar
If I had to guess they probably literally had playtesters see how long the trips would be and then set a drop rate, and decided to let real data see if they tuned it right
And were satisfied
spring remnant
No... you fail to understand what I mean
worn pulsar
But yeah nobody knows the exact reasoning unless a JMod replies
solar aurora
The specific rate they chose (1/14 chance to get a drop of 3 tp scrolls) is balanced enough that skilled players will (at least) break even on scrolls, without receiving TOO MANY scrolls as to the point where the price of them tanks, and they become worthless
spring remnant
Spider teleports are dropped at a reasonable rate given how quick Araxxor kills are (assuming you have a decent setup and are comfortable with the boss)
Cerb's teleports suck to get
solar aurora
If the drop rate was lower, the scrolls would be worth less and hence killing the boss would be less rewarding
spring remnant
I bring this up because your suggestion is the result of you not understanding the content well enough. You aren't someone who's grinded this boss for thousands of kills and found some serious problem with the design.
And these kinds of suggestions are what floods this channel most of the time.
worn pulsar
Oh yeah if that’s what you wanted to hear yes they are part of the value so their intended drop quantity is to break even/slightly profit when you start becoming proficient so you can pay for the convenience of tele or sell them for profit to people who are killing non-boss and/or not good enough to profit teles yet
spring remnant
I can understand why you would like for the teleports to be more common, but its not necessary from the prespective of someone who's farmed this boss for over 1000 kills in a mix of moderate gear to high end gear
worn pulsar
Inherent with the teles being tradeable
solar aurora
well, it was only frustrating to you because you picked one of the worst methods of getting to Araxxor in place of the tp scrolls
spring remnant
I get between 7-12 kills a trip depending on rng
So as I mentioned above, if you like, it would be more productive to see if something can be improved with your setup to allow for more kills per trip
solar aurora
that's not my point, my point is that there are good alternatives, and you picked a bad alternative
spring remnant
I've used bludgeon, mace and scythe
solar aurora
you most likely would not have made this suggestion if you were using sepulchre teleports to get to araxxor
spring remnant
The more important thing is not making mistakes and taking unnecessary damage while doing step under methods during enraged
Its not
Are you an iron or main?
solar aurora
i feel like you've been kinda dodging that question here
spring remnant
Which account are you doing araxxor on?
That's not the point of my question...
I don't give a shit about"irons limiting themselves"
solar aurora
i wasnt gonna say that, i was suspecting you're a main and upset at the cost of tp scrolls lol
spring remnant
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If you're a main, then the teleport cost should eventually become negligible as you get better with the boss. If the issue is on your iron, then either get more comfortable with the boss on your main or try hs for alternative teleports.
The main reason we've said this isn't a necessary change is because Araxxor has a good alternative teleport in addition to the spider teleport being dropped at a reasonable rate. The one that seriously needs a change is the cerb teleport.
The hs option is an additional 30 seconds or so and you can bank there to replace your teleport crystal with another supply item.
Hs is a neat content too if you're in need of agility training