Slayer Partner for Ironman

[full mountain]

Hopefully the community or a JMOD can enlighten me on the reasoning why ironmen aren't allowed to have slayer partners under the redesigned Slayer Partner system. It seems like a lot of the exploitative issues have been corrected from the original iteration. It feels like if ironmen can participate in raids with other players, they should certainly be able to participate in partner slayer. Would love some thoughts or explanations on why that isn't currently possible. Thanks!

[astral cipher]

Group irons makes sense, regular irons are solo, hence why they cant, make sense

[zealous prawn]

Seems confusing to me. Since it is supposed to be an activity that's only for social benefit

[full mountain]

But regular irons can do group content with non iron players anyway...

[full mountain]

exactly, which already exists for ironmen in other ways, like raids

[delicate forge]

Any task you don't want to do, throw a main in to speed up the task.

Any task you do want to do, the alt main sits on the side and the iron enjoys the task solo.

[zealous prawn]

I thought both players had to complete the task

So do they share the kill count?

[astral cipher]

the alt could just do 1 kill

[zealous prawn]

I see

In that case blocking Ironmen makes sense

Seems very abusable even on mains

[astral cipher]

so to keep irons from abusing, they should not be able to. Not like its worth it in its current state anyways

Still not a single peep from devs

[zealous prawn]

I thought it got removed last time because no one used it

Is that correct or am i misremembering

[astral cipher]

I believe they said it was removed because people were able to abuse it somehow

[full mountain]

yeah a lvl 3 got 99 slayer back in the day lol

[zealous prawn]

Nice

[full mountain]

the same could be said for non irons. just get carried through an unwanted task by another player/friend/alt

[astral cipher]

perks of being a main

Even if its an unwanted task tho, would someone really want to do it on both acc's?

[delicate forge]

But that's the perks of being a main, same as being able to trade?

[full mountain]

ehh idk, they need to figure out how to keep it from being abused then bc missing out on social content as an ironman feels bad. I don't want advantages, I just like cooperative content

[delicate forge]

👍 I can agree with that

Too little coop content in a MMO

[full mountain]

been my chief complaint with it since 2004 lol

[delicate forge]

And even what I listed above, it barely matters.

[astral cipher]

maybe a slayer minigame then?

[full mountain]

perhaps, or partner slayer bossing or something

just something to add more group content throughout the game

[astral cipher]

if you want group content, do group ironman

[full mountain]

def not lol

[zealous prawn]

True

[full mountain]

that has the same issues as starting a baldurs gate 3 campaign with your homies. it never gets finished, people's schedules are all over, people get bored and stop wanting to play

[astral cipher]

Im well aware

[full mountain]

Making group content available in some capacity for an ironman allows it to be with more people than just your friends with short attention spans

[dusk elm]

Does it even matter? Co op slayer is trash in every way

[astral cipher]

we had a group of 5, down to a duo

[full mountain]

want it to be better so it matters lmao

[zealous prawn]

My opinion on group slayer id thst if it has 0 benefits then almost no players wojld use it, it should have some benefit or there's no point in it existsing

[full mountain]

exactly why i wont touch it, feels like a meme gamemode or at best a "do X challenge with your friends" mode

never long lasting

[zealous prawn]

Havkng tl work with snother ælayer adds some friction to using it so there shojld be reward for that

And no I won't turn on autocorrect

[full mountain]

I would argue as an iron that just being able to hang with your buddy killing the same mob adds a social benefit that doesn't materialize as an in-game advantage

[full mountain]

the fact that you were able to mess up slayer that bad with a normal keyboard is impressive lmao

[delicate forge]

Actually, screw it. If they allow for and refuse to patch out shaman-stalling and demonic gorilla tanking, why not allow it.

[astral cipher]

If you cant store the partnered task and resume a solo task when they are offline, then there is no point in them re-releasing it yet imo. It just seems half-assed how they did it, and still havent said anything since dropping it

[full mountain]

lmao you got a good point there as far as their priorities go lol

[delicate forge]

The game mode is basically one strand away from being a main at this point and they haven't enforced iron integrity strongly since 2015

Only sprinkles of patches here and there

[zealous prawn]

Sometimes you have to roll with it

[full mountain]

respect lol