#GIM QOL Changes - Moved to new post

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wide egret
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i agree 100%

rich gyro
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100% needed

distant cliff
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GIM QOL Changes

uneven sapphire
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I am with this! We definitely need to make it more group friendly! plusone upvote

zinc cargo
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Love the offline poh, but why would you need to share marks of grace?

tidal bane
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I agree about poh but disagree with untradables

distant cliff
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Honestly, marks of grace was a suggestion from a group member, although i still agree with the crystal shards and xeric talisman. Im not asking for All untradeables just a select few

tidal bane
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Those are things each account already has to get in their own means, poh is a QoL because unrestricteds can already get housing access, where as the group is within their own means

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But untradables to accounts are just that, only for the user

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I think PoH quality of life to divide responsibility is okay. It's a gray area for items but realistically I'd lean more on you'd have to get it within your own means. And ironmen already make the effort, crystal items are untradable and buying uniques is a reach around by unrestricted

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Plus crystal shards are also literally quest restricted to handle/get use out of

distant cliff
tidal bane
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If they can't do that then they shouldn't, it's the same principle as how teleports don't work in PoH if you can't access the content

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Like lunar isle

distant cliff
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Like I said, i fully understand why they are untradeable but no harm in suggesting the option in my eyes

zinc cargo
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but they are useless to trade if the quest isnt done

tidal bane
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Yeah I get the QoL for sure

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But realistically the currency trading is like SLIGHT pandering

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And it creates unique situations where a GIM technically has access that other accounts dont

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Which is like the opposite of the spirit of the account type

distant cliff
tidal bane
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Like theoretically you could just farm teleport shards if you really wanna give your teammates currency

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It's not pragmatic, but it wouldn't give any more advantage than what's already in the game

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Like if one of your gim teammates get spooned af on tele crystals or something

wide egret
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make the crystal from cg tradable between gim group

tidal bane
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Are you talking the seeds or the shards

wide egret
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Shards

shy shale
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Agree with others about PoH more than untradeables

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Nice title though. I wonder what other stuff would go in GIM QoL poll if they had one

vague lark
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Maybe groups can have like a group house

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Like in clan houses or stuff idk

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Basically everyone can edit the house

zinc cargo
nimble tundra
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I believe Offline POH is not possible due to where the poh data is being held. Its tied to the player and server wont load that data with the player being offline

zinc cargo
distant cliff
rich gyro
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The offline POH would be QOL for everyone let’s be honest

zinc cargo
rich gyro
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this thread is for GIMS which is what i mean when i say everyone

radiant sable
rich gyro
tidal bane
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Isn't that a little moot point BECAUSE they already can use each other's homes, GIMs tend to branching path to get numerous things taken care of

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@ chillin

zinc cargo
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@ aces, I use my tm8's house all the time when he is on, he has the occult altar done, I do not. So i would love to be able to access his poh when hes not on, as I play more frequently

graceful delta
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that's a bit too OP for a QOL imo, even mains struggle to get a max house and most use the world 330 for prayer training and so on, you being able to log in whatever world you prefer (with low pop for example) and be able to use everything that a max POH has to offer (if this is the case for your GIM teamate) sounds a bit unbalanced

steel pebble
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Not when you consider how much the group had to pool together and spend to get that one maxed house.

zinc cargo
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Thats also IF the group contributed, lets be honest on that. But if offline poh came to fruition, pooling would be more common for sure

rich gyro
zinc cargo
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ahhh gotcha, nw

astral zinc
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Shared gim mansion.
Minimum 2bedrooms per groupsize. Butlers cost per gim size.
Example 5players. 10xbedrooms 5x butler cost

Cant access houze at same time until the rooms are in place.

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Overkill frfr but so is offline house.
Just get your own pool guys.

nimble tundra
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This isn't QoL, it's what we call the "QoL"

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if people want their own occult altar they can either get neccessary items themselves or ask their teammate if they'd be willing to get some of these for them instead. Could make some kinda deal with them as well

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~1500 mahogany logs or ~2000 teak logs per week of miscellania per player.
You can bank 80+ construction in no time as a group

wide egret
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And all we asking for a to be able to use other gims member houses if they offline

tidal bane
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More of an engine issue ig

nimble tundra
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Its a pretty standard ironman thing to do kingdom

wide egret
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Brother it's not about that

nimble tundra
wide egret
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Like for example we wanted to focus our resources on one guy

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To rush best house

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And we can all use it

tidal bane
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I get the sentiment, but it's probably a value vs effort issue most likely for jagex

wide egret
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Ok not everyone have the time you know

nimble tundra
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Unfortunately unless you acc share, and like Aces mentioned earlier its an engine issue and is not possible without some serious dev time put into it

tidal bane
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Yeah they'd have to redo how housing info is done

wide egret
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Fair enough

tidal bane
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Cuz the server pulls up the info whilst you're logged in

nimble tundra
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If you were to look into Q&A vod from GIM release they did talk there about such features

tidal bane
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If they added a cache it could work but it'd also be very likely resource nomming

nimble tundra
wide egret
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Then we can do a something like clan hall to gims

tidal bane
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Accommodating for GIM when they're already getting the added benefits of group play stuff

nimble tundra
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@wide egret all I can reccommend for you is get planks and do mahogany homes. Ever since QoL updates to it, it's become a really damn nice way to train cons

tidal bane
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I think the housing thing would be amazing btw but I don't see it as serviceable to ask for a bit as a restricted account

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Like I'm not against it I'm just not sure if it's feasible/worth the effort for jamflex for the specific situation

wide egret
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Yeh probably

tidal bane
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The asking price of a good house is a little bit obnoxious as irons but I mean that's just one of the long term goals that's tackled

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Ideally in an active group you just play together anyway, or in future situations make sure your most active player likely does the money sink planks

wide egret
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Yeh I get it

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I was saying would be nicer if only we coulda also use it if he is offline also

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But it is what it is

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I guess

rich gyro
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GIM means GROUP once again with all due respect this isn’t about solo Ironmans this is about groups that want to use each others houses while offline at the end of the day they can put it to poll and that would be the decision we love the suggestions but this is about what we aren’t able to do not what we can in game at the moment. Cheers m8s

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Offline POH ftw

wide egret
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And what wrong if we made the crystal shards tradable between gim members

rich gyro
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^

zinc cargo
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If you want to trade crystal shards, you are better off thieving for eternal teles, trade those to break down. I dont see much of a reason for shards themselves to be tradable

shy shale
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And then they delivered it like a week after it was polled lmao

nimble tundra
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its an existing system in their company

shy shale
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I don't know that that's how that works

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I'm just saying - everything takes work, not our job to scope it out or even prioritize, just to raise issues we'd like worked on.

tidal bane
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If it's a big enough priority I can see it but wouldn't be surprised if they were less inclined to content that only affects a specific playerbase that plays on a restriction, but considering Jagex polled for Perilous armor to have a 1 def option I guess anythings possible if the demand is high enough

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But the offline PoH accommodation would only affect GIMs because mains would just find a different maxed house, and irons can't to begin with

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So from a scope this is like only affecting a specific niche, and then there's the comparison of how much work for them would it take to draw upon data or I guess "port" the saved instance to other players to access it, or even what would the restrictions be, like can only GIMs use this feature, is it for friends of the iron as well. Etc

astral zinc
rich gyro
distant cliff
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Ok for some reason when i was editing the post it got automod deleted for spam? i will get it fixed if i can sorry!

distant cliff
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Unfortunately i was not able to recover the comment above nor can they restore the option to edit and do it from scratch and i was suggested to create a new post.