Please bring it in line with other similar mining methods, like bone shards/stars. ~30k xp/h seems a lot more reasonable.
#Daeyalt mining xp
jolly coral
half rapids
It's the same xp rate as other rune essence. I feel that makes it more "in line" than bumping it up.
fiery peak
Daeyalt is already useful and mining it is not a mining activity so to say but more a passive way to eventually get better runecraft rates. For that reason, it giving decent xp in both skills is not desirable imo
jolly coral
Daeyalt requires 60 mining and a large quest
half rapids
And it rewards you with 50% more runecraft xp. It's a runecrafting reward not a mining reward.
rare pumice
Stole what I was gonna say Pingu
jolly coral
"Daeyalt is not a mining activity" is wild.
rare pumice
It's in line with other essence mining
jolly coral
Sure, if you just ignore all the requirements its basically the same.
Bone shards rewards you with prayer xp. Does that make it not a mining activity?
fiery peak
Stole what I was gonna say Pingu
I literally said the same thing 😄
half rapids
Bone shards was specifically designed as a mining activity as well as the extra steps required to use them
jolly coral
Ok. But Daeyalt was specifically designed as "not a mining activity" ? Says who lol
jolly coral
Its dramatically less afk then boneshards or stars though, so.
half rapids
As I said, its specifically a runecrafting reward not that its not a mining activity
rose smelt
Its dramatically less afk then boneshards or stars though, so.
yeah but its dramatically more afk than zmi or gort
half rapids
Essence mining is also a mining activity, its still 5xp
rare pumice
To get good rates on mining bone shards you need to tick manip and move to active spots
jolly coral
Essence mining is also a mining activity, its still 5xp
I agree. I think it should give reasonable afk mining rates.
Similar to stars or bone shards
rare pumice
No
jolly coral
even though its way less afk.
rare pumice
It's not meant to be a main mining method
half rapids
FYI GOTR golems also give 5xp
So it really does fall in line with the theme of rune essence being only 5xp
half rapids
Why is it weird? Im comparing all sources of rune making material
rare pumice
Can I make a suggestion that Daeyalt should give no mining XP?
rose smelt
I agree. I think it should give reasonable afk mining rates.
10k is pretty reasonable afk mining rates
fiery peak
If it would give more mining xp, people are gonna start doing that for mining training, while its not intended for that at all.
Remember that 10k/hr DT2 mining method? People will do anything to avoid mining normally. Buffing the rates will only make the content worse
jolly coral
Pure essence is level 30 mining and requires a 5 min quest
Daeyalt requires 60 mining and requires a huge questline
Making it in line makes no sense
rose smelt
10k is pretty reasonable afk mining rates
especially when you're getting a ton of free rc xp
rose smelt
Pure essence is level 30 mining and requires a 5 min quest
Daeyalt requires 60 ...
raise pure essence req to 60 mining
jolly coral
Sure. Go make your own suggestion if that makes more sense in your head.
fiery peak
Or just accept the valid criticism on your own suggestion instead of taking it personal
jolly coral
Im not taking it personal lmao. Im arguing my points.
fiery peak
Sure. Go make your own suggestion if that makes more sense in your head.
Well this is an argumentum ad hominem
jolly coral
No it isnt.
rose smelt
crystal bodies are 74 smithing and give 7500 xp, while rune platebodies only give 375 xp despite being level 99. please buff rune platebodies to be more in line with the rest of smithing
jolly coral
He made a suggestion. I told him a better place to make it.
On his own suggestion thread.
If he genuinely thinks raising pure essence mining requirement makes more sense then he absolutely should suggest it.
fiery peak
He was discussing a valid point that is on-topic for your suggestion, you're just telling him off basically
rare pumice
I was being flippant and sarcastic
jolly coral
He wasnt discussing a point, he was making an alternative suggeestion. Theres a big difference.
jolly coral
I was being flippant and sarcastic
I know.
rare pumice
Wonderful
fiery peak
It wasnt about what you said in the first place
jolly coral
It absolutely was, but im done holding your hand.
fiery peak
Me too, bye
jolly coral
Later.
wide gazelle
this imo is like saying bump up barb agility/strength xp rates
like pingu said its a rc reward mostly
jolly coral
Well. Thats more like saying the exact opposite actually.
rose kettle
Daeyalt Essence is exclusively mined for runecrafting exp later, if you want afk mining exp then do a method geared for that, like mlm/stars/calcified rocks/etc.
50% runecrafting bonus exp is more than generous for the content of afk runecrafting exp
jolly coral
"Do the thing geared for that" on a post where im literally suggesting that this content be geared for that is wild.
dense grotto
You've been told so many times this is not a mining training method. Its a method to effectively spend less time rcing even though the time investment is roughly the same
rare pumice
I mean there's a thing called negative reinforcement. If you make a bad suggestion and keep trying to justify it people will keep telling you it's a bad position to take
I made that joke post but unironically I would rather take the 30k an hour mining XP away from Daeyalt and put it all into Rune Crafting
Yeah it would help people who have already maxed out their mining level get more essence faster and therefore level up their RC faster
But I'm fine with that
That's genuinely a better Quest reward than what we currently have
I agree on the general premise that as a grandmaster Quest reward and for being relatively so out of the way
It should have better XP rates, just not for mining
tribal gull
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left heart
It's the same xp rate as other rune essence. I feel that makes it more "in line"...
Isnt rune essence A LOT more afk? Daeyalt is like 30 seconds afk?
So its a big difference, its worse.
but locked behind a lot of quests
Questing, maxing, grinding and all that shit does nothing for you. Not even the items you aquire on your journey helps you out. You cant even use varrock armour 4, celestial ring, mining gloves, mining cape... Nothing. Its all about restrictions so that a players progression through the game doesnt matter all for the sake to keep players away from leveling up their skill.
Cant even use abyssal lantern outside of GotR.
Daeyalt essence being the same exp as rune essence, but 30 times less AFK? Makes no sense.
tribal gull
Questing, maxing, grinding and all that shit does nothing for you. Not even the ...
The benefit of daeyalt is it’s 50% rc exp buff. It’s not supposed to be a viable mining method.
dense grotto
Can't believe this suggestion is still alive
jolly coral
"Can't believe this suggestion is still alive"
~ as he helps keep it alive
🤡
azure swift
Who the hell mines essence as a way of training mining...
rare pumice
I still think Daeyalt needs to be rebalanced or reworked to give more RC XP somehow
left heart
I still think Daeyalt needs to be rebalanced or reworked to give more RC XP some...
Daeyalt essence needs a lot of improvement just like the runecrafting skill.
rare pumice
Daeyalt essence needs a lot of improvement just like the runecrafting skill.
Unironically would be all for a Catalytic Workshop quest that picks up the research in the labs
If they locked an improved version of Daeyalt behind a spoof of elemental workshop
Would be funny
jolly coral
Bringing mining XP for daeyalt up to other similar afk mining activities would be a boost for RC.
As it stands now, mining daeyalt is essentially just AFK rc @ ~ 30k /h or something like that? Youre doing it solely for the RC experience.
If it just gave mining rates compareable to shooting stars, the ~30k bonus RC xp you get from the daeyalt would be just that, a bonus. To runecrafting. Because you could justify afking it for mining experience.
But as it stands now, youre just afking daeyalt in place of active RCing later.
But I would expect osrs degens to argue that 30k xp/h is "too op"
rare pumice
Nobody wants more sources if mining xp
Nobody needs Daeyalt as a new afk mining method
People want better RC training methods and materials
Split the mining XP in half and make it half mining half RC XP when you harvest a piece
half rapids
Dont call people degenerates because they dont agree with you 
rare pumice
Would make it more viable to mine and build up a stack
rare pumice
Dont call people degenerates because they dont agree with you <:frog:12199754526...
???
half rapids
Not you
tribal gull
Split the mining XP in half and make it half mining half RC XP when you harvest ...
I’d support that tbf
tribal gull
But I would expect osrs degens to argue that 30k xp/h is "too op"
It is
For a start, stars move locations all the time. Secondly, stars provide little secondary skill exp, sure you can buy a few gem bags but it’s next to no exp.
jolly coral
God don't ping me
tribal gull
As it stands, there’s trade offs for different methods
tribal gull
God don't ping me
Don’t make terrible suggestions/arguments and i won’t have to 🫡
jolly coral
Blocked
tribal gull
Oh nooooo
jolly coral
🫡
tribal gull
Whatever will i do 😭
