Group Gauntlet

[digital lichen]

The game is severely lacking in group activities for friends. You have raids and a couple of bosses. Gauntlet would be a lot of fun as a group activity.

[hallow gorge]

trolling?

[digital lichen]

What's the issue with group gauntlet???

[valid cobalt]

I'd rather gauntlet be left alone and that new group content be made with that in mind

[knotty onyx]

There are tons of group content in the game. Wtf do you mean it’s lacking group content?

[valid cobalt]

No, I'm kind of with op on this one, there isn't a lot of meaningful group pvm content before raids

It's an ironically why he old school team should look at what people liked and engaged with in regards to dungeonering and avoid the pitfalls

Gauntlet should remain its own thing

But aiming for group content in that level 50 to 75 range could be interesting

[woeful widget]

So not gauntlet

[valid cobalt]

Yeah not Gauntlet or corrupted gauntlet

Making that group content would devalue the achievement massively for everyone that has already done it

It was designed to be done solo and should remain as solo content

If they ever made a group Gauntlet it would basically have to be a third instance that was designed from the ground up to be multiplayer

Elite/Awakened Gauntlet?

Maybe if we ever visit the elven home world on a new Grand Master Quest that could be the reward

[drifting lily]

Group content is good content

[slim jackal]

New content thats like gauntlet but designed for group could be fun

[broken trench]

I've had an idea for a while that's kinda that tbh might right up a suggestion

[broken trench]

All like 5 of em If mass it's a few more but it's mass you p much doing your own thing

[digital lichen]

Then bring dungeoneering but without the negative content.

[digital lichen]

Tell this to my friends who don't want to grind 70 in each combat skill before the fun can start.

[crisp horizon]

“Grind” and “70 in each combat skill” shouldn’t be used in the same sentence in all honesty. That’s about 2 days of afking

The problem with mid game group content is that the more skilled gamers will be moving onto raids very quickly as the rewards will be better, i can see there being very low uptake unless there’s decent uniques that can’t be obtained elsewhere. Plus it can be annoying if the group can directly sabotage your experience (think dumbasses in tob) which means you then have to either form a team yourself which takes time or take the risk of getting some random fingerless kid on your team.

Everyone loves the concept of group content, but unless it’s endgame content that’s going to force replay-ability by having nothing superior to it, it’s unlikely to be popular enough to easily find good teams

[sonic elbow]

Yeah, I really would like to be able to play with friends.

After a year of playing, I have 60s-80s in combat, so I'm almost never gonna be able to do raids with my friends any time soon. There's very little we can do together aside from me helping out if they do Wildy bosses.

Especially with Partner Slayer gone. 😦

[sour inlet]

I would not mind new group content at the lower levels. Like Dungeoneering but as a minigame and not a skill.

[sonic elbow]

I do wanna note that you can do Entry Mode ToA without invocations at around straight 70s.

I can't, but apparently, it's possible.

[valid cobalt]

Yeah, some early game group dungeons would be much appreciated

You see it all the time when they invite streamers to play during sponsor events, they get burned out unless they are on the 5x XP rate world

Some group dungeons semi close to already existing teleports would be pretty swell

I doubt there is anyway to retroactively make co-op questing work with old content

Need something that people can bring people with level 30-50 stats to and be enjoyable for most players

[slim jackal]

Scurrius is your main option yeah. or very inefficient gwd, maybe. I wouldn't count on Jagex adding too much content you can do without 80 combat stats but luckily combat stats arent too difficult to train

[sonic elbow]

Scurrius sucks as a group activity though

[floral gulch]

All this says to me is you cba grinding out a particular boss by yourself for a big drop and would rather have it made easy with your friends helping you out.

Off the top of my head there is gwd bosses, raids, zalcano, corp, wildy bosses, nex...

Plenty to choose from, you just need to put the work in to get the stats

[crisp horizon]

A year? You could afk sand crabs for base 70s within a week on a new account?

[sonic elbow]

Yeah, because I'm gonna leave my laptop running for a week straight so I can a random crav every few minutes 🤣

[crisp horizon]

Yeah nah that’s not how it works, it’s constant combat against an npc with weak defensive stats for 10 minutes and then you need to click twice to reset aggro

Could afk while cooking dinner, doing laundry, all sorts of things

[sonic elbow]

Yeah, every few minutes. You gotta like run in and out of aggro range every few minutes.

[crisp horizon]

Every 10 minutes, as i said above

[sonic elbow]

???????

[crisp horizon]

??????

Damn it, miscounted. F

[sonic elbow]

wut?

[crisp horizon]

Wut?

[sonic elbow]

Like

[crisp horizon]

I’m not sure what you’re questioning

[sonic elbow]

"Hey, babe, lemme run to the study while I'm doing laundry every ten minutes to click a 2007 point and click MMO"

What is this, like a job? 🤣

[crisp horizon]

?

[sonic elbow]

You play Runescape when you're doing other, important stuff?

[crisp horizon]

You click

You go do laundry

(In under 10 mins unless you taste windows for fun)

You come back and click again

[sonic elbow]

I mean, I guess I could see you do it while, like, ironing

[crisp horizon]

If you’re watching a movie you could have it on your phone and reset aggro every 10 mins or whenever you feel like it, if you stay afk for 5 mins at the end and do it every 15, you still gained 10 mins of free exp

Etc

[sonic elbow]

Or I can just mindfully watch a movie and be present

I can't even imagine living like that

[crisp horizon]

You could, yeah. But i don’t think the 2s you’d miss every 10-15 minutes would drastically alter your experience of the movie, but regardless… that’s how easy it is to get to endgame content. If you find clicking twice every 10 minutes is too laborious, you have no right to complain about lack of available content

[sonic elbow]

I do sometimes. Like, I knit during my Defender grind. But it's still something most people are present for.

It is not weird to ask for content like MoP that caters to people who are more casual. ❤

[digital lichen]

Easy to say if

1: OSRS is your one and only or go to game
2: You dont have a career and a family.

2 days of AFK training someone may consider boring is a very high investment for the "fun to begin"

[digital lichen]

this is not a reasonable expectation from anyone who isnt already very much into OSRS

[crisp horizon]

If you play other games, you can click twice every 10 mins to reset aggro on osrs.

You can change a nappy between aggro resets.

If you do it right, you can quest to gone past 60 stats within like 2h gametime, then you can afk like 70k exp/h for a few hours

[slim jackal]

thats the kind of game osrs is

[crisp horizon]

If they’re not very much into osrs, whats the point of bringing new content out specifically for that person who doesn’t seem to enjoy the game or want to play it?

[slim jackal]

if you dont like long grinds to get to the midgame/endgame then it's maybe not the game for you

[digital lichen]

Again.... what incentive does someone have to AFK for hours if every experience theyve had with OSRS thus far is "this is boring and sucks but the fun begins after you pay your dues"

[slim jackal]

in any case optimal melee training is active (scurrius) and not afk nowadays

and there's like 5 different ways to get your combat stats up so just find something you like

[digital lichen]

Josh Strife Hayes talks a lot about this. It's not reasonable to expect new players to do hours and hours of boring stuff in hopes of fun later

[slim jackal]

luckily osrs earlygame is not boring and tends to be extremely varied with questing, early skilling, etc

[digital lichen]

having something like dungeoneering that can be done with friends at a lower level would be a godsend for getting friends into this game

I know, because when dungeoneering was new in RS3 (RS2 then) I got multiple friends into the game via dungeoneering that kept playing for years.

[slim jackal]

devs understandably do not spend oodles of time on content that people overlevel for in 10-20 hours and then never do again

[digital lichen]

if you like playing solo

[slim jackal]

reward space for this kind of content is also just pretty narrow

[digital lichen]

something like dungeoneering isnt a 10 hour and done thing

even if the rewards were only moderate, if it was accessible group content people would do it

I don't blackjack thieving... because its miserable... I do pyramid plunder despite the lacking xp rates... because its fun.

[slim jackal]

probably they wouldn't, the average osrs player hates anything that requires them to talk to another person

[digital lichen]

MMO's dont survive on their hardcore base

[slim jackal]

this isnt the hardcore base

the hardcore base enjoys group content

[digital lichen]

if they dont bring in new players WITHOUT betraying the base they die

the nonhardcore base doesnt enjoy group content because the game doesnt offer group content to the nonhardcore base. its a self fulfulling prophecy

[slim jackal]

anyway, if you wanna play stuff with your mates there's always a bunch of skilling minigames that can be done in small groups

[digital lichen]

my friends would play RS3 with me today

because it has group content

[slim jackal]

there's also scurrius, barbarian assault, low invo toa, dagganoth kings, sarachnis, gwd

thats about it but its not nothing

in terms of minigames there's wintertodt, tempoross, guardians of the rift, barbarian assault, volcanic mine

they're also releasing a new relatively low-level group boss with varlamore part 2

so it's not like they're not working on anything

[sonic elbow]

Look, I get what you're trying to say, but... no, that's not how life (or nappies) work 🤣

[crisp horizon]

My point was it’s easy to get to the reqs for the existing group content, you could theoretically do so in about 200 clicks. There’s plenty more engaging content options for lower levels too

And in all honesty, would you want to be doing group content with someone that’s struggling to get 70 combat stats?

Group content relies on people that know what they’re doing, hence why raids groups have such high reqs

Player chosen

The same will exist for the lower group content, soon as people get fed up carrying noobs

Groups take a lot of time to form generally

Im in multiple pvm clans that struggle to even get group content going most of the time

If someone doesn’t have 10s to click twice, they don’t have 10 minutes to form a group

[crisp horizon]

That might not be how your life works, but it’s fairly easy to do. I’m almost always afking something while i’m busy doing other stuff

I reset aggro, put my phone in my pocket, do what i’m doing, check back 10 or so mins later and reset aggro

It’s really not challenging

If you’re incapable of that, you’re incapable of any pvm

[rapid birch]

I agree that there's too much solo-only content, and not enough group content. A multiplayer option would be nice.

[sonic elbow]

If they're my friend? Yeah, definitely. For the same reason I play LoL with friends who are Iron and Bronze.

Socialization is always nice.

[digital lichen]

easy from the perspective of someone who plays OSRS daily != easy to someone willing to give the game a brief shot to see if its fun.

[digital lichen]

yes, dungeoneering, it was really fun.

[digital lichen]

this is supposedly an mmo ffs almost everything should have a group content option. "Oh but Inferno and Fortis offer X item" ok, have a group option that doesnt reward the inferno cape or quiver but has the other rewards, I would still do it because doing anything with friends or a group is fun.

I keep hearing "they wont add X because the game is full of solo only antisocial player"

yeah

thats WHY the game only has those kinds of players because those who enjoy group content like me are getting increasingly frustrated and probably leaving

[slim jackal]

thats just not the kind of game osrs is

there should be more group content and there is a good bit but a lot of it is always gonna be solo

[crisp horizon]

Osrs is a grindy game. If people don’t enjoy the grind, they won’t be around long anyway.

[crisp horizon]

There’s a lot of group content available at a range of combat levels, i’m willing to bet you’ve completed none of it. What’s your ign? I’ll look up your hiscores kcs

[broken trench]

A lot of group content? If you're gonna be all show hiscore I'm gigachad you noob at someone at least say something clear lol

[crisp horizon]

?

[placid geode]

There really isn’t much group content. It’s also more efficient to do some of those bosses solo unless you’re specifically being boosted

Need some more group content that cannot be soloed. Another form of gauntlet in a team could be interesting but it should be separate from the current one which rewards the bowfa