#The Restoration of Camdozaal

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glad parrot
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Camdozaal as an area has quite a sad lore and some unexplored potential. A mid-lategame quest where you aid the remaining imcando dwarves to restore a portion of Camdozaal(placed underneath the current area via stairs) sounds like it would be a very cool idea, perhaps related to how much barronite you've spent/deposited and utilizing higher level mining, smithing, and construction skills. Basically breathing some life into Lassar undercity after desert treasure 2

midnight geode
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[[lassar undercity]]

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glad parrot
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put it above camdozaal then LULD or at least bring some life back into the cities

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but yeah leading from desert treasure 2 into a restoration quest would be cool

midnight geode
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i'd like to see some kind of activity in the lassar undercity but i dont think it should be restoration

glad parrot
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if you mix it with Cam Torum in Varlamore you could probably get some neat lore combos with it to provide a hook

rose juniper
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Still odd you can't tell any of the imcando dwarves about each other

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Or tell keldagrim that there is another dwarven hold

midnight geode
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that was/is definitely a big oversight

rose juniper
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Or that you found Camdozaal

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Ye

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Would be down for a dwarf quest that gets some of the dwarves under the mountain to help excavate Camdozaal now that we've opened it up

glad parrot
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exactly

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also there's exactly one duo you can tell about eachother, and it's Ramarno/Thurgo

rose juniper
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Might need to be a post DT2 quest due to the undercity

glad parrot
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yeah, I'm thinking post dt2 for sure

rose juniper
glad parrot
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aye

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there's a lot of potential there honestly

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and a really melancholic feeling of the spot atm

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probably post-dt2 and post giant dwarf at least

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make it take that same 60 construction from dt2, toss in some stuff that takes mining and smithing at fairly high levels(60-80 range)

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swing it right and it'd be a real nice long quest chain

midnight geode
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i dont think the regular dwarves need to be involved, they have their own questline that's left unfinished

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or at least I'd rather have their questline finished first before tying them into other things

glad parrot
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I think you could do that and make it lead into camdozaal after

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if you think big then it'd be a cool longer quest chain, which would honestly kinda fit the idea of a big restoration/excavation project

midnight geode
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add archaeology to osrs

glad parrot
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the fun part of brainstorming quests and such is spitballing ideas, I ain't tryna suggest a new skill though

rose juniper
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I would love to get most of the archeology sites from RS3 with some changes

midnight geode
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i agree

rose juniper
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Without the absurd grinds

midnight geode
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add the content but not the skill

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thats how I feel about sailing

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i dont really care about it being a skill but i want the content that will come with it

rose juniper
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I'm game for sailing as a skill because that means it will get a lot more dev time

glad parrot
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I'm hyped for sailing because it kinda has stated it'll have what I like in skills, visible progression that you can walk around in(upgrading your boat to dif boats)

glad parrot
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another big perk of this questline could be expanding barronite gear so it's not just the mace, and maybe an upgrade to the vault's loot since atm it's very very sad

steel wren
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Anything to make camdozaal not dead content is a +1 from me

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There's multiple interesting skilling ideas in there but it's held back by being f2p content. A members-only revival of that area would be nice

rose juniper
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was talking about getting more content for F2P's with potential for either crafting or farming drops to earn bonds beyond the moss giant boss's super rare drop since even that is barely over half a bond now, adding a new f2p quest to work on camdozaal would be neat and then make another p2p continuation of the area post DT2 would also be fun

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making some kind of new barronite drops could have potential there

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especially if it went towards some sort of upgrade for barrows gear that members could use

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since barrows armor is from the zarosian empire technically

steel wren
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Unfortunately connecting anything in f2p with decent moneymaking is going to be a bot nightmare and will never be added. Bond prices would just balloon out of control

rose juniper
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yeah would have to be some sort of higher level f2p goal

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something post dragon slayer with higher skilling reqs but just a thought

steel wren
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It would have to be something so high level that no player would even want to get to it

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Because leveling in f2p is so slow

rose juniper
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there are f2p players that would love the chance at earning a bond which they used to be able to do

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any expansion to the mountain there could add more f2p content pretty easily at least but it's just a thought

steel wren
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I don't think bonds were ever for f2p players to obtain them, they were for players who can already afford them and grind another in those 14 days

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as it stands there's really nothing an f2p player can do after being bonded that would get them that kind of cash

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they'd lose membership before affording another

rose juniper
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while they were under 7 or 8 mill you could get one with some luck or grinding for long enough and then make cash doing p2p methods

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there are some methods but they are super degen

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or high risk

steel wren
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bond prices are definitely a problem though

rose juniper
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ye

steel wren
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not as much f2p being the problem

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camdozaal is cool, if it gets an update it would kinda have to be members

elder iron
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Ban all f2p users (jk)

rose juniper
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bond prices rn making the minimum wage money making strat more and more viable lol

steel wren
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yea seriously lmao

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best gp/hr is definitely getting a job rn

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by far

rose juniper
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I genuinely think the wiki still has that as a money making method last I checked

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just says to buy bonds and lists the federal minimum wage lol

steel wren
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10m/hr is pretty good

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and in my state, it's 25m/hr

glad parrot
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tying it to dt2 is kinda feeling like it'd be the gating measure and I believe that needs members doesn't it

steel wren
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agreed, and more high level content is always nice, but I also think camdozaal needs a little facelift too

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and they're kinda connected

glad parrot
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but yeah I agree camdozaal really needs a facelift

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something that'd work fairly well is looking at the questlines that the 2 imcando dwarves are tied to atm

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which is giant dwarf, knight's sword, DT2

steel wren
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literally just adjusting the golem drops, maybe adding a new room with Death golems, buffing the regular mace, changing some rates with the fish->prayer method/adding new fish etc

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it doesn't have to be an enormous new piece of content, that can be reserves for the post-DT2 idea

glad parrot
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so if you continue the khelgarim dwarves to completion then tie those to DT2 you can mix it to be a nice way to expand the area

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fair, just a glow-up would be nice for that aye

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make the vault actually worth doing

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some higher level fish options with better prayer exp for the fish

steel wren
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even slightly ffs, vault is so shit

glad parrot
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the fact that right now the mid-tier casket is worth more on average than the ornates is kinda telling

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it stops gear at adamantite and at that point you're still not even killing chaos golems very well

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but yeah doing a f2p mild glowup that adds some higher peaks to what you can do there to coincide with pr as a precursor to a bigger imcando-themed post-dt2 glow-up would be awesome

steel wren
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I wouldn't even care if the f2p stuff was buffed, just low level members stuff in there would be nice

glad parrot
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given that we have some imcando in varlamore atm it can tie in well enough

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true

steel wren
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catfish exist but they really blow

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they're honestly so bad they could add catfish to f2p

glad parrot
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the lore for camdozaal and the last dwarf there are also really melancholic and sad

rose juniper
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I think a direct continuation of the f2p entry quest is needed, maybe make that a mini quest along with a members mini quest to reunite the imcando dwarves

glad parrot
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so it'd be nice for them to actually get a positive quest

steel wren
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do we even talk to the guy in camdozaal before going into the undercity

rose juniper
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Then go into a members quest post DT2 with the undercity

steel wren
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don't we just run right past him and go into the city

glad parrot
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yeah, it'd have to start with a post-knight's sword post-giant dwarf quest to reunite the two imcando

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you talk to him usually once when you get in but idk if you have to bother hiim with dt2

rose juniper
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Reunite them, extend the dwarven mines into the city and reconnect it with keldagrim

glad parrot
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he does have one line of dialogue where he just gets even sadder after dt2

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this divot here is just asking for a minecart or a staircase

rose juniper
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Then go into uniting the misthalin imcandos with the varlamore survivors

steel wren
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some sort of transport to keldagrim would be cool

glad parrot
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it'd fit really well with keld, as part of the reuiniting line

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then if you do it right you could, with reuniting the varlamore imcando with the survivors you could make a way to get from mainland to varlamore minecart networks in the undercity

steel wren
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I probably wasn't paying attention to the cam torum stuff, are they actually imcando lmao

glad parrot
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yeah

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they're descendants

steel wren
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damn

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this has GOT to pay off one day

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aint no way they made Camdozaal, DT2, AND varlamore with imcando stuff

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this has to be in the works

glad parrot
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making an instanced undercity post dt2 that's a mix of varlamore imcando, the survivors, and kheldagrim dwarves that eventually can unlock minecart networks to let you go straight from camdozaal to either kheld or varlamore would be awesome

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and would be a real nice way to see Ramarno and Thurgo get a bit of a win in their sad lives

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call it New Imcandoria LULD

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but yeah if it's not in the works already it'd be a huge missed opportunity

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hence why I suggested it here, since it sounds super cool

rose juniper
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Idk if anybody read the short story about the Imcando Dwarves original homeland

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Old School RuneScape Wiki

Imcandoria's fall is a book found in the library of the Myths' Guild after completing Dragon Slayer II. The book can be used on Freja, who transcribed the original text, as well as Thurgo, one of the last known Imcando dwarves.
The book, written by Highseer Gulbrand of the Isle of Garmr, details the fall of Imcandoria. The text was originally in...

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But I do find it ironic that the new home they settled after they fled south ended up being in the stronghold where the same relic that destroyed their original homeland was relocated to

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Zarosian forces at some point after the Imcando fled their homelands but before they had joined the saradomian forces in the 3rd Age relocated the Blackstone pillar and started researching the same corruption that destroyed the far north

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Would love to get more lore on this and tie it together with more Fremminick and Zarosian quests

glad parrot
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Agreed

round yew
untold island
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Would be neat to add a tier 60 golembane weapon with an expansion, add a Barronite Maul. To make it, maybe combine the Barronite mace with Barronite shards and Mind, Body, and Chaos runes to make it charge based, like all the cool weapons. Also update the Barronite mace to actually have a mace's combat styles, that stab bonus isn't doing anything(not that it'd be really worth using if it gained it anyway)

glad parrot
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I would say use the golem cores to make the maul and then runes to charge it. Maybe add another couple golems with it

steel wren
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Yeah golems are already an existing enemy type with a -bane weapon, I see a place to expand existing content without reinventing all new ideas

glad parrot
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Could even do a neat rune-fueled barronite golem armor

rose juniper
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I think a f2p expansion/update along with a members version would be quite nice

steel wren
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Not too hijack the suggestion ofc, I still love the Idea of a continuation from beyond the discovery of the Lassar Undercity

glad parrot
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Imcando were known to be different from normal dwarves because they used runes and magic with their smithing

rose juniper
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but ye

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a powered melee weapon could be neat

glad parrot
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I mean if you’re going to add more golems, more rune themed golems would fit really well with the quest

rose juniper
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they used magic in their smithing and were/are particularly religious individuals

steel wren
rose juniper
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I think a mace with prayer bonus and some innate charged spell could be cool

glad parrot
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Aye, they were allied with Saradomin during the god wars

steel wren
glad parrot
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If you make the upgraded mace into a prayer boosting maul that’d give it a cool niche as a 2h prayer boost with a charged effect

rose juniper
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even after that they are decently religious and have an heir of tradition to their smithing

steel wren
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I'm still sad about blue moon being a pvp exclusive (for viability) thing

rose juniper
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ngl the staff is super cheap

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and a decent mage weapon if you don't have an offhand

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it auto casts everything with a 5% magic damage boost

steel wren
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Ofc, it's not useless, but it only really shines in pvp

glad parrot
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Rune infused smithing would honestly be a cool thing to weave into a mix of runecraft and smithing skills at the same time

steel wren
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I wanna see another melee mage weapon

rose juniper
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it's a cheap and better alternative to ahrims staff imo until you get a mage book or 80 prayer for elidinis ward

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but yeah they could do some cool stuff with imcando weapons

steel wren
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Price? (Btw)

glad parrot
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It’d fit perfectly with a camdozaal expansion too, few step process to runecraft golem cores you harvest into special barronite or Imcando weapons

rose juniper
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was under 600k last I saw

untold island
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Including Barronite shards in the charging process of a potential new weapon/armor would also give players something useful to use mass quantities of shards on- you get so many from mining and breaking deposits.

steel wren
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I mean Ironman lmao, but I get it

glad parrot
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Like how the fishing leads into prayer

glad parrot
steel wren
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Yeah I love the Idea of using runecrafting and smithing

glad parrot
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Vault is aggressively depressing

steel wren
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I need to try vault again, I don't remember if the mechanics were even any good

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I just know the rewards are sad

glad parrot
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Could do rune infused rune armor with 90 each runecraft and smithing LUL

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Joking aside take the smithing tier you need from the given armor and runecraft from the rune of the golem core you’re using in it

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Mix some pure essence in there and a quest that “unlocks the secrets of Imcando smithing”

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Barronite in place of coal

steel wren
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Idk about that part though, coal is already so plentiful, the price would tank

glad parrot
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I’m not saying make bars

steel wren
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Oh for an activity huh

glad parrot
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Yeah

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So say you want to make a steel sword of mind or w/e they call it

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You take a mind golem core, an iron ore, some pure essence and maybe 1k barronite shards in the forge

steel wren
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Like a giants foundry without the minigame, giving more XP and splitting it with runecrafting?

glad parrot
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Kinda, though you could easily make it more of a mini game

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But think like the fishing loop

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You take fish but then prep with a knife and get prayer exp

rose juniper
glad parrot
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Oh definitely

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The main floor in general could use a little love

rose juniper
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like you can still use the f2p training methods there to rebuild and then there is a members quest that either gives you the resources you need faster or gives alternate member skill locked methods along with an expanded p2p only area

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along with delving back into the undercity

glad parrot
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You’d definitely want to tie the new quest into the existing loop there and barronite shards

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Supercharging the forge maybe

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It already has a few permanent upgrades and one loop able one

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So you can work new stuff into that

steel wren
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Yeah the most disappointing part is the mining so barronite should get a lot of love

rose juniper
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Camdozaal also ties into a lot of the zaros/mahjarat stories, potentially varlamore part 2 and more

glad parrot
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Aye, that’s why I think it’d be super easy to tie in to existing lore threads

rose juniper
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if we get an updated barrows like in RS3 due to sliske being a little gremlin and we get to make barronite infused barrows armor I could see the city and imcando being important in that

untold island
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Do something with the pit and the ghosts. Idk

glad parrot
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And why having it be a way to make it so you can take a kheld minecart to camdozaal, then a camdozaal minecart to varlamore would be cool

rose juniper
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idk if we can make a tunnel all the way to varlamore

glad parrot
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Not the same network but as a midway point

rose juniper
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but working it into sailing

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dwarven battleships

glad parrot
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Underground boat launch

rose juniper
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dwarven cargo ships and submarines

glad parrot
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I forget the name of the water pressure operated lifts but that’s a thing that exists

rose juniper
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if dwarves get subs then we need a russian style dwarven sub commander to help us fight the penguins

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just saying

untold island
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Also, change the rune essence to pure essence on the chaos golem drop table lol.

glad parrot
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Canal locks

steel wren
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I'm a firm supporter of death golem

glad parrot
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That’s what it is

worn wharf
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im +1 but idk how you would do a quest like this

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if its mid-lategame that means it'd be a solid bit harder than dt2

steel wren
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There's a lot of loose threads about imcando, the ore would be hard

glad parrot
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We’ve got so many spitballed ideas on how to tie it in lol, content of it is a bit weird

worn wharf
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and idk if you can make a quest as suggested of that kind of difficulty

steel wren
glad parrot
steel wren
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Well the issue is DT2 is hard

worn wharf
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idk if that'd be mid-lategame for me personally

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cuz dt2 is like, borderline midgame

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and unless we're introducing tick manip levels of click intensity i don't think you can make content harder in a skilling-esque quest

steel wren
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It doesn't have to be harder

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It's about rebuilding right

glad parrot
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Taking dt2 as a prereq would kinda feed difficulty in that sense vs the quest itself being super hard

worn wharf
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e.g. a pickaxe that can mine death or blood or whatever cores, but you can only use this specific pickaxe, and it's like 30 ticks per roll with a 20% success rate

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so completely inviable if you try to afk

glad parrot
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The point is more after you’ve done the hard thing

worn wharf
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but add a 1 tick stall to the 'first interaction' of the rock, and people can 1.5t it

glad parrot
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This is a less hard not quite victory lap but very playing into a new area unlock

rose juniper
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that one can be pre dt2

glad parrot
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With mini quests all over to help rebuild while playing into what camdozaal already does with mechanics and also adding runesmithing

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Aka runecraft and smithing skills used together, not a new skill

rose juniper
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just odd that we didn't get any content connecting Cam Torum with Camdozaal

glad parrot
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Unlocking some cool shops, cart network stops, etc

rose juniper
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you can make one that ties more into the dwarf story that is seperate from the undercity

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and honestly

untold island
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Dwarven version of singing crystal equipment- kinda

rose juniper
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we need to get some dwarf quests

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get their quest chain done

glad parrot
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Yeah, it could honestly be a dwarven equivalent to song of the elves

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That comes with finishing dwarf quest lines up

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Just themed with a rebuilding of glory style as opposed to a discovery

rose juniper
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slot in the camdozaal and cam torum connection into the build up for the end of the dwarven questline

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go from there

glad parrot
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Aye, and use camdozaal’s existing barronite and forge system to help fuel part of the quest line and some of the mini/side quests

steel wren
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I'm wary about making this too complicated, because it stops being feasible as an update and starts to become an entire expansion

glad parrot
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Fair

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Depends on how heavy to go with it really. If jagex thinks expansion is cool then cool, if they think lighter update is cool the cool

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I’m just having fun thinking of ideas you could shove into it at this point

rose juniper
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I think just connecting the imcando dwarf settlements and getting the dwarven storyline done should be enough

untold island
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Could also come around a time if/when they rebalance metallic armor smithing so you aren't forging godswords and singing some of the best ranged armor and weapons before you can touch rune.

steel wren
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Camdozaal levels of interesting skilling loops involving normally unconnected skills, similar to how underwater thieving levels two skills at competitive rates but slower on their own, but it requires DT2

rose juniper
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and then any content involving the undercity can be done with the continued zaros storyline

glad parrot
steel wren
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Exactly

steel wren
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That's what I mean, camdozaal is a good idea, just make something like that but viable and connect it to the imcando continuation and it's a big win 👍

glad parrot
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Any way you slice it really it’d be awesome to see camdozaal getting tied into more stuff but also getting an actual retrofit and new spot added in as a new city

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Even if it’s small

steel wren
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The city is so cool

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I wanna be there

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But like, not just for whisperer

glad parrot
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If you wanna go full elves tier with it, making special Imcando gear that uses Runecraft the way Crystal uses agility sounds dope

steel wren
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Unironicly I crave dwarf content

glad parrot
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But yeah just generally the spirit of this quest idea is just to give a bit of a glow-up to camdozaal and make some more use of it

steel wren
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A dwarf priff would be best case scenario

glad parrot
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Agreed

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That’s kinda my hope with the eventual end point that this would tie into, even if this quest specifically isn’t it

steel wren
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Corrupted Gauntlet? Where's Corrupted Vault?

rose juniper
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imcando handcanndo

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all I'm saying

glad parrot
steel wren
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Imagine we just get a gun

glad parrot
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true

rose juniper
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they don't cast magic

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they shoot magic

steel wren
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Articifer gaming

glad parrot
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heck the imcando made the shield of arrav and another legendary sword

rose juniper
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a imcando hand cannon

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it isn't a powered weapon it's a powder weapon

untold island
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Give the Imcando hammer an invisible smithing/runecraft boost while equipped in the city

steel wren
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Bowfa? Check out Bowfa deez barrels on this magic shotgun

rose juniper
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and the powder is made of crushed runes

glad parrot
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barronite shards for ammo

rose juniper
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own a barronite cannon for home defense

glad parrot
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barronite shard+pure essence=magic imcando blaster

rose juniper
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3 grave robbers break in

glad parrot
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it'd be a good use of the new heavy ranged defense stat

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make it a 7 or 8 tick ranged weapon that just blasts

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ooh, imcando upgrade to the dwarf multicannon

rose juniper
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naw

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you don't wanna upgrade the multicannon

glad parrot
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aka barronite cannonballs

rose juniper
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maybe a side grade

glad parrot
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take a granite cannonball and infuse it with barronite

rose juniper
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like if it could cast magic instead of shoot cannons

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so you just change it's damage type

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maybe

steel wren
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Move over tbow

glad parrot
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or just an ornament kit for it honestly

rose juniper
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but that could be super powerful

steel wren
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This gun rolls against mage

glad parrot
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an imcando cannon skin would be super cool

rose juniper
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an earnable non event dwarf cannon ornament could be cool

glad parrot
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if you look at the way the imcando hammer looks

rose juniper
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the only one they have rn is the shattered realms dwarf cannon skin right?

glad parrot
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the spooky ghost one yeah

untold island
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An Imcando themed skin for the cannon would be sick

glad parrot
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you could totally do an imcando themed one that makes it look like it's shooting barronite blasts for purple with the hammer's color scheme on the main cannon

round yew
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oh man, all of these ideas would be amazing

imagine if we combined the imcando runesmithing techniques with the stuff from the Elemental Workshop, too

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forge mind runes into the Mind equipment to power them up, or infuse the Elemental equipment with specific elemental runes

it could also merge in with future Elemental Workshop quests if they ever port them back from RS3

steel wren
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porting the other elemental workshop quests
okay now I might vote no

round yew
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yeah, it was just a random idea

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not "do this as part of the whole thing"

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i would love more golem types, more uses for barronite shards, maybe an upgrade to the barronite mace...

steel wren
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I kid lmao

round yew
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etc

round yew
glad parrot
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elemental workshop would very much fit with the theming

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and maybe give a chance for that gear to actually get an upgrade to being useful

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idk about raw porting from rs3 though, I just don't know what they got in there

rose juniper
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Elemental Workshop 3: Workshop Harder

glad parrot
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Elemental workshop 3: this time it’s good

glad parrot
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I wonder what a good way to expand the mining would be, or would it kinda just be more veins

rose juniper
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make some sort of new alternate RC and Mining activity with the golems

glad parrot
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hmm, possible

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making those golems into a mining version of ents could be cool

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but instead of ores giving some kinda of essence and barronite02shrug

rose juniper
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I just want a different RC training method and some non tick manip mining

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and this 100% fits both

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altar runs and GotR are just not very fun

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ig ZMI is decent afk but idk, feels like they could make a more interesting RC training method

glad parrot
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agreed, and that's with liking gotr

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gotr and tempo are fun but they're pretty attention-intense

rose juniper
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I enjoy solo tempoross more than grouped

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It's way more chill for like double the XP and more than double the rewards

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Ngl RC could use more of an overhaul than others

glad parrot
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bump, need some dwarf imcando skins

rose juniper
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Ngl I would be down for a master or GM quest about the shadow realm and getting maybe a mini raid or group focused Gauntlet type event where we have to invade the plane of shadows via the undercity

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Could get some Imcando inspired skins via that @glad parrot

glad parrot
glad parrot
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Honestly even just introducing them into the vault would be nice

dark patrol
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That's a nice idea. Rebuilding and restoring a part of the game world always feels impactful, especially when it ties into the lore of the game so well.

glad parrot
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Exactly, the lore hook is what really helped me get the idea, especially since it can tie into varla due to the dwarves there

rose juniper
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Rebuilding old ruins as a sort of lore version of mahogany homes would be super fun too

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people keep asking for skilling slayer masters and I think this could be a cool way of implementing it

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sort of like a work around to add some of the dope ruins we see in archeology from RS3 without adding the whole skill and all the new junk items

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we help NPC's rebuild their ancient homes and ruined corners of the world to get some new unlocks, QoL improvements, maybe a new skilling area or two

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Camdozaal already sorta has that where we have to source items from inside the ruins, expand that to the undercity and ice mountain

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source local wood, maybe we need to import special items from Cam Torum that can't be made by Ramarno and Thurgo

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not quite a miniquest, not quite a permanent mini game. Say as a reward you unlock improved versions of the prayer/fishing and runecrafting with the golems, maybe a new section of the undercity opens up

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same idea could be used in other areas like Burgh De Rot, have us rebuild more of the town by engaging with the surrounding content in the area to collect resources instead of just mass buying stuff from the GE

glad parrot
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We also have the unlock UI for the forge already which is stated to power the entire city so getting more uses for barronite shards would be easy integration

rose juniper
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all I'm saying

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we gotta power the forge and the forge is magical

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might as well get a new RC method out of it that isn't 300 hours of GotR or ZMI

minor flume
glad parrot
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it'd definitely be the right place to put it

wild pebble
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I was thinking this as I played through DT2 recently. Lassar undercity is such a beautiful and well crafted area with great history and so much potential! I'd love to see some content that involves rebuilding it in some capacity

minor flume
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Just stay out of the Cathedral and you'll be okay, right?

glad parrot