#bond prices

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remote pollen
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There aren't enough whales buying bonds with real money to keep up with the increasing amount of GP/wealth in OSRS.

old summit
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Actually probably the opposite

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Most of us wealthy players buy more bonds then most

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We use 2-3 accounts for leagues dmm etc we have multiple alts/iron rich players are buying a lot which is increasing price along with bots losing prime forcing them to buy bonds to maintain now

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I wouldn’t be surprised if we had 20m bonds by 2024

Again that’s fine for everyone doing cox tob toa cm’s nex etc

But your player base will slowly decline

fathom raft
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He means actually purchasing bonds with real currency.

old summit
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Oh my bad then

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Yeah sadly we can all make crazy gp without needing to buy bonds

remote pollen
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As the amount of GP in the game increases, the price of bonds will increase to reflect that amount. Whether or not the increase in GP is inflation or wealth depends on the ratio of gp to items in the game. If the amount of GP in the game increased and the amount of items did not that would be inflation, but if the amount of items in the game increases along with the amount of GP, that is an increase in wealth of the game.

old summit
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Idk the technicalities my friend had made the post asked me to share it around and as I did with the nightmare post my iron friend asked me to share I did aswell

Again I could care less about bond prices they don’t bother me much just slightly annoying they go up

I do have a good amount of lower level friends who cannot just buy them as they please and some have quit

So I’m just hoping this will bring attention to jagex to look for some solution before we don’t really get new players anymore

Not everyone can afford bonds/membership with Irl money

umbral wharf
old summit
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Didn’t they start letting irons buy bonds to? That could be causing it aswell

lime oak
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It's supply and demand. There aren't enough bonds coming into the game and being sold to keep up with the demand.

fathom raft
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As a person that has relied on purchasing bonds with gold for almost the entirety of their account, I get what you mean that it's not easy and continuously gets more costly as time goes on. However, they have also significantly powercrept early-mid game GP income over the last 2 years. Couple that with a growing player base and the same low proportions of bond purchasers to bond recipients, the price has to go up for the bond purchasers to see the value in paying real money for them.

old summit
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I don’t think bonds shouldn’t go up in price exactly

I think they need something though to help these F2P/lower lvl people

Without game knowledge any new player will fail most times maintaining or even acquiring membership through gold for a little while

lime oak
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And why does everyone keep thinking paying for membership solely off bonds is a viable option for someone's first account?

old summit
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I mean I did it when I came back to osrs

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Paid for membership 1 time 6-7 years ago and have used bonds since

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But I’ve played off an on since 2001

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My knowledge is a lot more then these new players

lime oak
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I can see it as viable for option for an alt when you have a good income source somewhere

old summit
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Well again prime ending has a lot of bots buying bonds now

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The problem jagex never addresses

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These noobs could pick flax for bonds if they were gone

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Besides zulrah they ain’t getting it any other way

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They’ve gone up what 3m since prime ended

umbral wharf
# lime oak And why does everyone keep thinking paying for membership solely off bonds is a ...

A lot of the people on my friends list sustained themselves with bonds a few years ago, we've all progressed a bit since then so it's not anywhere near as hard as it was but it seems really difficult now for a new player to do the same. These are customers Jagex is potentially losing out on as many when they get a job just end up paying for membership after having gotten addicted first

fathom raft
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It is kind of a luxury to trade our gp success in the game for more game time in the first place. The price increasing does have the negative outcome of hard gating F2P players behind at least some membership purchases where it historically has been more feasible to save for bonds in F2P, but I don't think it's tremendously unfair.

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$20 worth of bonds where I live is enough casual game time over 28 days to make significant strides towards bond sustainment, and it's enough to reach it outright for people with time or game knowledge to spare. I think that's a steal for the amount of joy this game gives to people.

old summit
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I mean on wow I could make gold easily

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And buy game time

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I was merching on wow aswell across 22 realms it wasn’t a money problem for me there

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Still thought the price was high

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I don’t think making gp on this game is hard either but that’s again me and u

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I’m talking about the people joining the game

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Who are enjoying it

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And then can’t afford it

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I’m sure there’s a lot of people with a fixed income on disability or something who play this game cause I know a few of them

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So those people who would bring a lot to the game again are forced out if they don’t dedicate a lot of time to the game

lime oak
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Looking at the price history of bonds, they only went up and up over the years. Although the biggest spike was definitely this past year where they doubled in price. Compared to years prior where the doubling happened over the course of a few years.

old summit
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I make plenty irl I can pay ingame or irl doesn’t bother me even. If im paying for all 7 of my accounts with irl it wouldn’t bother me

I’m purely speaking on behalf of my lower level friends who are having trouble many of which I give free bonds/gp to help them

fathom raft
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I was that person. I was killing hill giants and being a comedian at the GE until someone gave me a bond and took me under their wing a bit. I couldn't afford to pay real money for membership at the time, and desperately itched to give it a try. It feels crappy, and can be discouraging.

However, I also enjoyed the game enough that I would have eventually set aside the $8 or whatever it was to give membership a shot, and I did a couple times.

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You play these games in a massive parallel, this system is designed to only really be appealing on a single account basis.

old summit
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I’m purely speaking on the fact of newer players

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I can literally go do a couple hours of nex and maintain membership on all my accounts every week

lime oak
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The only solution to this problem is to have enough bonds to go around to lower prices. But that would require Jagex using sheer corporate brute force onto the playerbase to accomplish that.

old summit
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Or the bonds are going to bots which they need to do something about

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Normal players are never going to be able to keep up with bots they play 24 seven there’s more of them ready for back up etc. etc.

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Any easier money making method is completely ruined by them

fathom raft
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We also unfortunately have a sizable amount of players that like to purchase gold from 3rd parties. Bots only exist to feed that market.

old summit
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So therefore, you’re literally only leaving the endgame content for sustainable GP per hour

lime oak
old summit
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Yeah, I agree with that as well

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I’m just saying something needs to be done about this before they reach 20 mil apiece

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Otherwise, you’re just gonna see more bots farming, more gold increasing the prices of bond over and over until no one can afford them

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Which intern ruins all the items that their farming

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Which intern ruins the money making methods for anybody who goes to use them

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So it’s just an endless cycle of the bond are being screwed by the bots

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Who are ruining the prices of the items, their farming in order to buy these

lime oak
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The bots thing is always an arms race.

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They kill off one farm, two more pop up 3 days later.

old summit
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lol u think so but a lot of these bots barely get caught

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How many front or second page people are bots

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Hm people kill nightmare

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Hm bots are now using private instances

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Being manually reported less

lime oak
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The best solution to the bot problem I say is the banning of 3rd party clients. Jagex is definitely making strives for that to eventually happen. Get the official client up to par with Runelite and then kill it off.

umbral wharf
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basically 6 vorkaths with no barriers to entry

old summit
umbral wharf
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it's free gp for bots

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go to any world wildy boss and all you'll see is bots

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it's so bad

old summit
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The rev caves and the wildy bosses forced bots/gold farmers out

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Now they are everywhere

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As I said u guys don’t see a problem YET

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give it till 2025 and when bonds are 20-30m cause bots are farming 410 toa’s and staffs go to 600m

umbral wharf
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there should be no bots doing end game pvm

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If Jagex was ruthless enough at banning these bots the scripts would become too expensive for botters to buy for it to be worthless

lime oak
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I agree that bots doing PvM should get a much harder hammer

old summit
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I’ve personally seen a guy with 7+ appeals

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Successfully on the same account

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For botting/rwt

lime oak
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Stuff like the bots that are basically slaves that are there to gather fish are a lower priority

old summit
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Then poor Jimmy gives his sister 20m to start playing off tutourial island and she gets a unappealable rwt ban

hollow spire
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i mean new players can still buy membership without bonds right?

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if they don't want to spend irl money then its like 20-30 hours of grinding f2p moneymakers i guess

old summit
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I mean it’s gone up 3m since March 25th

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Weird that’s when prime roughly stopped

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1+1=? It’s not inflation or demand or anything it’s literally bots

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Why u think so many people downvoted the alching thing

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Who wouldn’t wanna be able to alch mass quantities? Everyone would love to alch for max profit versus selling it in ge for less and then getting taxed aswell

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But people said no because of bots/inflation/ excessive raw gp already in/coming into the game

hollow spire
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its been trending this way for 10 years

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old summit
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Pvm’r can’t complain they make more alching it themselves

Noobs can’t complain cause they can finish alching faster and training magic free

Better would have a field day

Where do u see the no votes coming from?

Ironmen? No way they would love this

hollow spire
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its been a steep rise for 2 straight years which was before any wilderness change

old summit
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Look at that again

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2023-2024 has a much steeper climb

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Duel arena and banning btc’s has sunk more gold then ge tax has

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Banning duel arena people back in the day

hollow spire
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yeah its increased but the idea of it being purely wilderness bots doesnt make sense

old summit
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Bots in general

hollow spire
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especailly when we used to have multi revs and other broken shit

old summit
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Revs was 3-4m/hour

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Now bots are making 10-20m/hour

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Efficiently

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Barely detected or just ignored

hollow spire
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or just items to help circulate gold

old summit
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Pure gold? Probably 5m+

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4-5m

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Let me not exadurate

hollow spire
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either way , i do think that if people want memberships they should be buying it if bonds are too much of a time investment for them

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because high bond prices is relatively a bonus to the people paying for bonds

old summit
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I mean jagex could put a fixed rate on them

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That they can increase/decrease

hollow spire
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so people who don't put in crazy hours or pay money can benefit

old summit
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Ok so I bought a 10 pack of bonds in March got 100m

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Now I get 130m

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Wouldn’t I buy more bonds now to sell since I’m getting more money?

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Or would I buy less?

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I only need 8 to get 100m now

hollow spire
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depends on what you're looking to buy

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because people bought bonds when they were 2.5m each

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and they buy them at 12m each

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at the non max gear end they get a lot more value now than before

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than if it was 5m each for f2p players benefit

old summit
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How so?

hollow spire
# old summit How so?

bond price has shot up but the cost of a solid mid game gear set is the same or lower

old summit
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Tbow was 800m? Now it’s 1600m-1700m?

hollow spire
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like i said non max gear

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bandos, crystal , bowfa, virtus or ahrims...etc

old summit
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Bowfa was 90m?

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Now 140?

hollow spire
old summit
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Virtus was 50m hit 64m for chest this month

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But your saying it’s cheaper

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So I’m just using your items as examples

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Nightmare staff budget kodai was 15m

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Now it’s 60m

hollow spire
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not random inflation

old summit
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Bowfa being 1.5x price?

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That was your item call out

hollow spire
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you can camp it through the waves if you dont have mega rares

old summit
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So why say the item but change it up when I call it out?

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It’s cheaper now

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O no coloseum made it expensive

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Doesn’t count

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Kinda contradictory

hollow spire
old summit
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Every midgane item recently been given new life?

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So again your points kinda invalid

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Arma? O masori

hollow spire
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mid level melee gear for example is like blood moon (or bandos) , faceguard , dragon boots, torture...etc. so like sub 100m?

old summit
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Bandos got torva sink

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Virtus mage rework

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Nm staff mage elemental rework

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Range gear o new ammo categories

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U can continue to justify it but answers stay the same your calling items that all been given a purpose while saying they aren’t going up and have

hollow spire
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all the perilous moon items , ahrims, bandos , all stuff around that tier. you get it for less bonds now than when bonds were 5m each

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im not saying every single non max item is 1:1 the same

umbral wharf
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was basically stable before then

hollow spire
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but the idea of making people buying bonds get less gp per bond so people who pay nothing benefit

old summit
hollow spire
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isnt right

hollow spire
old summit
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Your literally talking yourself in circles

hollow spire
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hold on

old summit
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Getting proven wrong and trying to justify your answers based on situations that benefit u

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Either give a full on example like I did or I’ll just keep disproving your claims

hollow spire
old summit
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Like?

hollow spire
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so im going to look at constant prices and periods

old summit
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U want barrows items I’ll show u 20 bot scripts available

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U want toa items I can show those

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Can also corporate prices on spikes etc to updates

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None of that’s hard except u saying u get items for less bonds which is my point

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Bonds are going up but again NEWER PLAYERS

hollow spire
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what period did you think bond prices were fine

old summit
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are being punished

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8-10m is obtainable on a normal player basis

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Beyond this is kinda cringe

hollow spire
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so june 2023 period?

old summit
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I personally run 2 resturaunts have 3 kids married etc

I Merch to buy bonds and run megascales for myself to sustain drops for gp and alt bonds

My time is limited but I accommodate myself

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A newer player cannot do the same

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Or atleast they will be severely discouraged to farm willow trees on 10 accounts in F2P to buy a bond

hollow spire
old summit
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I didn’t when I started either

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I could play all day/night

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But now my times different and I make more gp/hour now then ever in my history of osrs

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Bond prices pretty much are irrelevant to me

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I’m speaking out on my friends who can’t afford it anymore when they could previously who play the same amount of time as before

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I can play 20 minutes a week merching the ge barely even logging in and make more then any endgame player does weekly

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That shouldn’t mean no one plays the game anymore and should just merch

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I started doing brutal black dragons when I was lvl 100 and got a twisted bow from the duel arena and have built my way up since then

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But I remember bots crashing me nonstop while I was trying to rebuild

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Making it very demotivating

hollow spire
# hollow spire so june 2023 period?

but personal lives aside. lets say around Jun 2023 was a fine period since thats when bonds were 8m?

10 bonds = 80m. pmoons didnt exist so mid game str without paying or doing BA was: Bandos chestpl8 was 28m , tassets 20m , faceguard 18m , torture 12m , dragon boots 200k , fero gloves 7m. (let me know if i missed anything)

your 10 bonds does not cover it.

in todays market it does.

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mage gear i was going to use ahrims since Virtus did not exist. an ahrims set has gone from 8m to 5m , somone buying bonds benefits here too (more if we consider blue moon)

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crystal armour costs roughly the same as a year ago , so bond buyers benefit there

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bowfa has gone from 108m from the end of june to around 140m now. 30m more cost , 3m per bond. bond buyers arent notabley worse off here

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i dont want to go down the rabbit hole of every single item and time period

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but in general can we agree that people buying bonds now would be worse off if you suddenly just capped the price it sells at to 8-10m?

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and is it really fair that people paying money to jagex should sacrifice so that people not paying (but have access to demo) can gain membership?

old summit
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I mean at this point I don’t consider ahrims or pmoons midgame

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Virtus bowfa crystal bandos is midge

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Midgame

hollow spire
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but sure midgame is subjective so i wont get stuck up on that

old summit
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So you’re saying the defensive bonuses on Virtus aren’t big? Or the magic% increase they are recieving

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Or that occult nerf will make ahrims useless

hollow spire
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im not arguing what we class as mid game bro

old summit
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Your saying midgame moons is legit ironman content

hollow spire
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im comparing the good gear options that someone buying can get

hollow spire
old summit
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Does it really?

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That’s dumb tbh

hollow spire
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+4 and +2 yeah

hollow spire
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but jagex did it

old summit
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Eh I’ll save that point of arguement that was just them catering to irons

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But yeah I guess pmoons “saved” them from buying endgame gear sorta?

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Idk full bonuses from the gear

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But it’s also paper no?

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So does anyone use it pvm wise?

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Or just pvp

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Like void is free?

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But people use ahrims/god d hide over it

hollow spire
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bloodmoon = bandos boost , blue moon = ahrims accuracy , ranger one is the new pvp meta and good for low budget pvm

hollow spire
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they are really good for early upgrades*

old summit
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Jfc…

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I guess instead of solving problems of current items they just add in new budget gear that’s almost identical

hollow spire
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its all fairly steep at different points , not just 1 specific updating causing a deviation

hollow spire
old summit
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I’m gonna get back to work now, but I still standby. What I said people can either agree or disagree with it post their opinions it’s irrelevant to me as is the price of Bonds again I was just speaking out for my noob friends.

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I agree price is high for noobs

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That’s my point and only reason I posted

hollow spire
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thats fair , maybe if they can figure out a way for them to make more money without being abuseable for bots then it could help those who can't pay money

pure temple
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the intent was never and will never be for f2p players to sustain bonds 🤷

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i really dont get what your problem is other than that low levels cant play the game for free which is a weird complaint cuz jagex is a business

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like you dont really seem to understand the fact that bonds are a way for jagex to make money, not a god-given right of people to be able to waste their time to play for free

old summit
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Needing 10 bonds for 100m is better for jagex then 8 bonds for 100m

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Which is also better for players trying to buy membership

hollow spire
old summit
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Ban them

hollow spire
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feelsroqman our cash cows

old summit
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I’m only seeing ban bots/rwt’s as an answer to this problem

hollow spire
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bonds were bought in to combat rwt and gold buying though

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so its valid?

old summit
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Bonds were the only mtx osrs would allow

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That’s the answer

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Rs3 is full of mtx

hollow spire
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yeah and the pitch they had to us was because a lot of people buy gold from black market which helps fuels the whole bot market

old summit
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U can max your account with irl $

hollow spire
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so bonds being near the same value as RWT just means less people should do it

old summit
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So again it goes back to botting/rwt people causing prices to go up

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I can buy gp for .22/m from black market and buy a bond for 2$

hollow spire
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so remove and ban all players who are invovled rwt and then remove bots since the reason they are there is no longer a thing

old summit
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Well again jagex’s some bots are good for the economy

hollow spire
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same outcome for new players

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🤷🏿‍♂️

old summit
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Not really

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Remove bots let’s say flax bird

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Bots

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Now F2P can make 400gp/bowstring

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Instead of 10

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Not exact numbers

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But it stops the players from being stuck not able to make money

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I enjoy nightmare

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It’s infested with bots and losing money to do it at this point

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Why would I do nm when I’m losing money?

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Because bots ruined it

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So now I do nex instead because it’s profitable but I would personally do nightmare over nex all day

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Players being forced into content they dislike because gp/hour sustaining sucks wherever bots have ruined it

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So these noobs who could runecraft or make bows or anything now have to pay irl instead of playing the game

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Again it goes back to bots ruining the economy inflating bonnds and ruining easier money makers noobs would happily do

hollow spire
old summit
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Yeah end of day jagex making excuses for bots

hollow spire
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i think it was around 150-180 back in the day

old summit
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Yeah I mean I’m throwing random examples out

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But I mean if Jimmy wants to cut teak trees all day afk at work to buy a bond

I think he will do that if it is worth it and that the bots don’t ruin the best construction methods

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Sure items will. Go up in price

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Meaning people will make more gold when. They sell there items

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So instead of me getting 10k for my chaos rune drop I’ll get 40k

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Who cares if bots are gone prices will regulate and players will fill the gaps

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Voidwaker was a super powerful spec weapon

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Farmed to shit by bots

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Should been worth much more but bots farmed and ruined it

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Now there in tob cox toa cm’s etc there not just picking flax anymore or making law runes/natures

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So this 20% dip on the runes u saw will continue to all items

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And when your precious tbow is worth 500m and your splitting it 3 ways to buy some gear/bonds it won’t be oh this only effects noobs/f2p/newer players

shy ibex
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I think when you finish all f2p quest, you should be able to get free 30 days membership!

remote pollen
shy ibex
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Proboly take like 4-6 days to conplete all quests no?

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With all the rquirments and stuff

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Not sure

shy ibex
pure temple
pure temple
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anyway i literally dont understand the point youre trying to make

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is this another "jamflex should just press the 'ban all bots' button!!!" thread

pure temple
old summit
# pure temple 1. saying that ppl would buy more bonds if they were less valuable is kind of a ...
  1. im argueing that this dude said its better for jagex if they worth more

if its worth more people need to buy less so that was wrong

  1. jagex needs to crack down on bot detection yeah been said by many 100's and 1000's of times and they still run rampant worse then 99% of games ive seen

  2. my point is that its becoming harder and harder for NEWER PLAYERS to get into the game

i can hop on world of warcraft with a max lvl character and do mythic raids in 1 or 2 months froim literally 0 gear

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why on here do i grind for 5 years before having 1 set of max?

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but then i made 1/2 my bank in a matter of 1 month doing merching at the ge

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versus pvm'ing for 5 years

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and im pretty spooned on drops

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and splits

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again i have more money then i care for and more then enough alts to make as much gp as i wish

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i can pet boost do megascales etc etc

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none of this is relevent to me cause i only buy bonds for membership with ingame gp which i make easily

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my point is the future of this game the NEW PLAYERS are getting run out on any possibility of making money due to bots which inturn is ruining the game

old summit
pure temple
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hollow spire
pure temple
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in any case its not like max gear is required for anything

hollow spire
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i thought he was arguing for f2p only players wanting members

pure temple
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except maybe GMs

pure temple
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and it would be good if jagex banned more bots but thats not really easy to do

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requires hiring more people to do that work and jagex management doesn't want to budget for that because skilled anticheat ppl are expensive. thats all there really is to it no matter how much reddit wants to believe its a grand conspiracy

old summit
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Again I posted because multiple lower lvl friends have messaged me

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Then one asked me to post there Reddit post

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Idc about bond prices one bit they could go to 100m and I can make enough money to sustain my mains membership

old summit
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While all botted items are crashing more and more daily

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Idc about the price of bonds

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Send them to 50m

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But for my noob friends I hope they go back down

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Again I can repeat I Merch I have 4 mains 3 alts I do all endgame content besides hmt

Gp isn’t 1 bit of an issue for me nor will it be

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But AGAIN for newer players bots are ruining any chances of it so AGAIN bots as always are causing a huge problem if u don’t wanna hear about it go to a different thread

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Or if you like go comment on the noobs Reddit post complaining about bond prices instead of me pointing out reasons for bond prices increasing when people wanted to argue it

pure temple
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sounds like your noob friends need to get a job tbh

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or just git gud

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because making money isnt that difficult even as a noob

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send them this link [[herb run]]

strong cradleBOT
hollow spire
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😂

bright scarab
# lime oak The best solution to the bot problem I say is the banning of 3rd party clients. ...

Ok so you and everyone must be stupid you do know virtual machines exist and you know how easy it would be to make a bot from 1 pc to another people do that for valorant and passed there anti cheat system. What they need to do it is manually go into the game and do a sweep every day of the bots ( make it different times so bots can't adjust to it ) it is not hard they just don't care as much. It is not hard to pay 1 guy to sweep through they can make them not being able to be seen even. Like if they really wanted to ban these bots they would being so they might show slight progress but nothing what they should be doing.

lime oak
bright scarab
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this has to be bait right

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????

wet granite
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As long as zombie pirates are around we are getting nowhere

severe rapids
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Whats next, make rune bodies sell for more on the ge cause i want more money, or golden coins

twin thistle
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golden coins is hilarious though

fathom raft
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It's "golden money"

old summit
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Oh I forgot about this

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Idk like I said bond prices don’t effect me this is just for people less fortunate

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I have 2 years member ship on my main and 1 years on 3 more mains plus I bond 3 accounts whenever I wanna use extras for pet hunting

sage plaza
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I mean they could add some older p2p content into f2p, I think a lot of people would be okay with seeing things like Taverly being accessible or letting Scurrius be the new end game pvm for f2p

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at least he gives decent alchs sometimes

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what's something that's high demand in p2p that f2p accounts could produce/provide?

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if gotr and runecrafting gets changes then they could maybe make some new consumable that gives giga low xp rates but craftable in f2p? everyone hates RC anyway

bright scarab
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i rather the stuff be scrapped than given to f2p

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anything that ends up in f2p ends up being botted

remote pollen
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Higher requirement F2P are less likely to be botted, since F2P bots seem to get banned faster for some reason.

wet granite
wet granite
wet granite
pure temple
wet granite
pure temple
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making a bond in f2p isnt supposed to be realistic so focusing on changes to make it that way is stupid because it just leads to botting

wet granite
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What are you on I want some too

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It literally was the most common thing before new content that pushed inflation hard was introduced

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Unless you wanna say P2P botting isn't way worse since wildy and similar content exist lmfao

pure temple
pure temple
wet granite
wet granite
pure temple
wet granite
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What do you genuinely thing puts for GP in the game

pure temple
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when theres amazon prime membership theres literally 100 bots on every world spinning flax dude

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what kind of drugs are you taking that you wont think anything without any barrier wont be botted to shit

wet granite
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The same drugs you're taking thinking the barrier is effective

pure temple
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?

wet granite
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Have you seen how much wildy bots make?

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Genuinely

pure temple
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ok ur just stupid im moving on

wet granite
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Lol

pure temple
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none of your arguments make any sense. botting is bad so lets make it even worse so i can play the game for free!!!!

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nobody will bot f2p because its not worth it please ignore the fact that f2p is full of bots already but anyway they should also add 1m/hr methods to f2p kekw

pure temple
timber canyon
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new idea golden bonds some times when redeeming a bond you get a golden bond which is worth 10 times the amount

remote pollen
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I think the best money maker in f2p is alching rune items. I can't tell how much that is botted. Another good money maker is smithing rune items, but that isn't botted much because of the requirements.

wet granite
lyric pine
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quite a lot of people have 99 smithing in f2p

wet granite
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Quite a lot by niche account standards or quite a lot were membs but don't have memb atm

lyric pine
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quite a lot as in

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more than you might expect

remote pollen
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On world 308, there are players selling rune and addy items at the Varrock west bank, because of the the GE buy limit.

wet granite
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My point either way is that 99 smithing is viable for nothing money making wise in f2p

old summit
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My opinion they should make 1 decent money maker for F2P and watch it heavily for botting is the answer

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They watch 500 places in p2p

lyric pine
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?

old summit
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Focus on 1 F2P area that they make it so u can make enough for a bond atleast

lyric pine
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ah yesjust hire like 100 people to watch this one activity across f2p worlds

old summit
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Not like 2m an hour

lyric pine
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and just have them watch for bots

old summit
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I mean they catch 1000’s of bots weekly in p2p

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How hard is watching 1 boss F2P since they ignore 500k other bots on F2P

lyric pine
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have you tried thinking about why there are so many f2p bots

old summit
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Cause they don’t care about F2P

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It’s non profit

lyric pine
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or...

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because f2p is

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Free

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in other words bots have like 0 risk and 0 investment

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in other words

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making bots to bot on is free

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and easy

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if they ban 5000 f2p bots

old summit
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I know

lyric pine
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ok gg they just make more

old summit
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I’ve played for 20 years

lyric pine
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zzzz

old summit
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I have 9 accounts 4 are mains 3 almost mains 1 iron

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I Merch

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I do all endgame content

lyric pine
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do you

old summit
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I know pretty much every aspect of this game

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I just made 7.4b off elder mauls?

lyric pine
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ok?

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how is this related to endgame content

old summit
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Check my accounts huntrsaspoon/spoonalt1/2/3/4/5/6/7

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And “y b ironman”

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My Ironman is lacking

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So yes I’ve done everything in this game quite a few times besides inferno and coloseum

lyric pine
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so you arent doing endgame content then

old summit
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No fang kit isn’t endgame

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Getting to zul isn’t endgame

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I run 2resturaunts

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I have 3 kids

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No idc about sitting in inferno for 2+ hours solo for 1-3 max hits

lyric pine
old summit
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Rather have fun with my boys

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During my limited time

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Anyways time to work pce

golden tartan
split vault
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I got an inferno cape in 2 attempts this week

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It's overhyped for difficulty, just do it

golden tartan
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Not 1 and done? Yikes

split vault
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Ikr

hollow spire
split vault
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I got bodied on wave 48 once

hollow spire
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you cant say you dont have time for it if it can be paused + you have 8 different alts

golden tartan
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Pausing inferno is not the play ngl

split vault
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^

golden tartan
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At least personally

hollow spire
split vault
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I worked on average 70 hours a week most of last year and I still had time to max a gim

golden tartan
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Gaming

split vault
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And I was literally away from home for weeks on end with no real internet

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It's a skill issue

hollow spire
split vault
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Solution to bond prices being too high-> convince more whales to buy em with real money

remote pollen
split vault
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Although I don't really need to worry about prices

lyric pine
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also a good thing to be reminded of, on a serious note, is that bond prices scale on the playerbase (i mean, obviously)

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if the average money maker is better, bonds will go up

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if the average player is better, bonds will go up

split vault
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Inflation!

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And jagex won't do things that lower the playerbase money

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Their hands are tied there

remote pollen
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I don't think players would like it if the GE tax was raised.

split vault
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Ge tax I don't even think sinks gp

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Iirc it sinks items unless they started getting rid of raw gp

hollow spire
split vault
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Neat

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It'll be fighting against the tide on that one

old summit
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Act like pausing it and rejoining doesn’t ruin your clicks/ruthm

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Rythm

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I’m not here to argue with people though I didn’t even realize this post was still keeping traction

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Again the bond price doesn’t bother me I made it because my irl friends complain about prices cause they can barely keep up with affording them

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I could care less about paying 20m for bonds just send some 410-500 toa’s

lyric pine
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if you're so stacked maybe you should lend them a hand

old summit
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Guess what I’ve done?

lyric pine
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i dunno mate

old summit
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My elder maul merch gave 1.5b away to my clan for a drop party

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Gave my friends 1-2 months membership each

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I help all my friends but this post is for people who don’t have a friend like me

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If your here to just shit post go to Reddit

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I buy most of my memberships 1 year at a time with irl and I’ll afk 3 accounts while doing raids

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So that’s how I can manage it

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Half hour or a hour of raids while afking 3 alts

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Leave for a bit come back and do it again

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Never said I have 7 maxxed accounts my accounts aren’t the best

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I made them to boost myself pet hunting

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High combats and some questing for spec transfer dps and heal other because my times limited and I can log in and out inside bandos zammy etc with all my own accounts and not waste my friends time for a 1-2 hour zammy trip

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No1 ever wanted to do a 1-2 hour bandos trip so that was my solution

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But again if all your here to do is talk shit then go cry on Reddit instead about them being to cheap @lyric pine

lyric pine
old summit
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U keep pinging me

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So yeah ima answer

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O nvm that wasn’t u

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My bad then

golden tartan
pure temple
bright scarab
old summit
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<@&385422009930219520> can u delete this? I tried but didn’t work just annoying at this point

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Idk how to delete it