Where was there mention of them changing Falador hard diary requirements?
#Remove / Adjust BA requirement for the Kandarin Diary
haughty jetty
I know it was one of their proposals during the skill rebalance blog, but honestly I highly doubt that specific one would pass a poll
inland belfry
lvl 5 all is an elite task and perfectly in line with other elite tasks
vital swallow
every diary has some form of bs
but thats the point
1k chompy chicks
as much as i dont enjoy some of the tasks they do force you to engage with content u otherwise would never really do
and at the end of the day diary rewards are pretty mediocre
so not being able to do a diary isint the end of the world
haughty jetty
Level 5 BA takes a few hours. There's many grinds in elite tier that are similar or longer grinds.
vital swallow
u could make same arguement for chompy/fally knights
just saying cuz one of ur points is that doesint fit in line with other diary tasks
ba is atleast somewhat fun its just not as braindead as chompy kills
so alot of ppl procrastinate learning it
u have to kill like 1.2k black knights knights or something its just a random task that ud only do for diary
haughty jetty
vital swallow
lummy has mta
minigames are decently common
ur forced to play like 1game of trouble brewing figt pits etc
castle wars
theres a task to equip full void i think*
that takes a while
haughty jetty
Thought time was irrelevant?
There's a ton of tasks that aren't useful to most players but achievement diaries are all about completing various stuff in an area
vital swallow
have u tried learning it?
haughty jetty
BA is very not horrendously designed lol
It's some of the best content in the game if you bother to put in effort to learn it
vital swallow
dont take offense i was same. but im guessing u saw that lvl 5 role in ba and were like i cba
u do have to do some learning for it but its actually not that long of a task
diarys are built on tedious wierd bs stuff
so if u remove ba u can jiust keep going down that line remove a large part of what makes achievement diarys
id be okay with that personally
but like i said earlier these rewards are pretty minor
u really can just live without it
u arent forced to do kand diary at all
its not simple
and ppl cba learning it
this is why ppl just avoid insane stuff like volcanic mine/hallowed sep
haughty jetty
People are lazy
BA takes effort
Crazy to imagine people paying for convenience
vital swallow
ye they are updating it for people that never tried content in first place
haughty jetty
People also pay for CoX diary carries and a plethora of other things that aren't hard but require 2 braincells
vital swallow
everyone whos done vm already knows how cracked it is
people dont even want to try
yet if they took data id bet vast majority of ppl prob are doing rooftops for their agility training
learning anything is hard
haughty jetty
Yeah and those people are lazy as fuck
They don't want to put effort in to learning content that isn't that difficult
How is that not lazy
It's a "horrible experience" for the people who pay to skip it because they don't even attempt to try to learn it
vital swallow
what lvl are u currently in ur ba roles
haughty jetty
They go in guideless and go "this is dumb defender is too hard!!!" And then give up
vital swallow
exactly spent more time complaining then learning
im not gona lie learning team content can suck ass
not that u cant do it
just that u havint even tried
really
vital swallow
ba has combat
supple cave
ba also has a pet and rewards
im just curious as to what your line is. because if its based on getting an xp drop while doing it then that quite weird
vital swallow
thats diarys in a nutshell
noone goes back to mta apart from irons
or back to pc outside of uims
supple cave
might aswell remove 153 kudos too 
afking crabs and collecting fossils
partially , you get a lot from filling up the statues from the fossils
which you can afk crabs for
inland belfry
why is ba not a reasonable requirement
it doesn't take that long
and its interesting content that would otherwise be mostly ignored
supple cave
took me like 2 hours per role , was fun imo
inland belfry
like yeah ba is janky as hell but that doesn't make it not cool content
supple cave
and more in line with what a diary should be
inland belfry
it would probably be less interesting if it wasn't janky as fuck 
haughty jetty
If the time it takes is irrelevant why do you want it lessened by reducing it to 1 role
inland belfry
then what r u even complaining about
supple cave
make you do content in an area to a level of competency , rather than just afk skill to 90 then do something once
inland belfry
if the time it takes is irrelevant what is your point other than "i dun lik barb ass"
supple cave
add sub 6 min full sepulchre run to morry diary 
vital swallow
then what r u even complaining about
hes saying the experince of doing ba sucks
inland belfry
ye but thats just subjective innit
vital swallow
and thats why it shouldint be on there
its subjective but like theres so many other grinds just like ba already on diarys
inland belfry
imo chompies and black knights are probably far worse than ba as far as that's concerned lol
vital swallow
execpt the only diffrence is ba requires a bit more of a brain and teamwork
inland belfry
kq head also doesn't give you anything
supple cave
fun +
supple cave
it just feels like the 'get nothing out of it' is just flat out false
inland belfry
what does grinding kq give u
kq drops basically nothing
ba also gives loot though
so
who cares, level 5 all is the minimum req to efficiently do ba for loot
ergo doing ba does something for you
also if "the time it takes doesn't matter" then why is your suggestion to make it level 5 in one role
doesn't really make sense
they should probably make ba give combat xp though
supple cave
inland belfry
hunting 1000 chompies or killing 1200 black knights is not a skill either and both of those are old/clunky and give nothing while doing it
it's pretty normal for diaries
i'd rather see those changed to something else than ba tbh
supple cave
so basically you dont enjoy BA and dont want to learn it?
haughty jetty
BA doesn't give combat xp because of the crazy xp rates you could get from the monsters all being insanely low def and extremely stacked spawns + the arrows giving you higher-than-dragon strength scaling
If they reduce the xp some or made you able to trade queen kills for flat xp it'd be kinda dope though
supple cave
because nothing you are arguing has any consistency
inland belfry
ba also 'fits'
haughty jetty
BA fits because it's in Kandarin and is an extremely in depth minigame in the area
And it's also combat
?
Why bring politics into this you freak lmfao
vital swallow
ur shaming the content when uve barely taken the time to learn it
u said urself u got torso and dipped
inland belfry
making role level ups not be tied to reward points and use some kind of "xp" instead would be cool i guess
so you could get gambles even while going for lvl 5 all
supple cave
black knights makes you kills thousands of pointless mobs
chompy chicks makes you kill 1000 pointless birds for little xp
karamja makes you chop bushes for hours at a time
desert diary makes you grind a boss for upto 128 kc
there is 0 consistency in any of the taks other than they belong to that region. BA is consistent progress depending on your level of skill
?? you okay there buddy
supple cave
pest control for full void is a grind from a minigame
🙂
ill leave it since you've gotten mad for some reason
vital swallow
didint have to delete post
broken crater
Can we all please make sure we keep on topic? Failure to do so will result in the thread being closed, thank you 🙂