Swap to Standard Spellbook at Falador Castle altar like in RS3
#Standard Spellbook Swap
pale prairie
If you remove the mention of RS3 this would maybe get some actual support
unfortunately "RS3 BAD!" so people would vote no out of pure spite if it were polled
visual heron
falador castle is a little too knighty for that, i'd rather have a wizard at the wizard's tower help me get my old spellbook back
and the mage tutor in lumbridge
pale prairie
^or even in the PoH but at a much lower level than the single-book altars
actually wait, nah the wizard tower is just as much out of the way as the other altars so that entirely defeats the purpose
visual heron
mage tutor in lumbridge seems like a good person to help with returning the standard spellbook then
visual heron
actually wait, nah the wizard tower is just as much out of the way as the other ...
though it's not toooo far out of the way, there's a fairy ring there and it's a destination on the amulet of passage
which I use to get to the fairy ring most of the time
pale prairie
oh yeah i forgot about the fairy ring
and I guess it's also just south of draynor which is a glory tele away
though i'd still lean slightly more towards giving that ability to the mage tutor, or even just in Falador
wild pike
Falador sounds like a strange place to put it. My suggestions would be:
- Wizards' Tower, altar in basement (only used in Restless Ghost quest; mimick Astral altar/Zaros altar)
- Lumbridge, Mage tutor (mimick Tyss)
- Taverley, Altar of Guthix (mimick Astral altar/Zaros altar)
Last one is a bit unusual, but "bringing magical balance" sounds on point here to me.
inland beacon
wizards tower for sure
bold vortex
wizard tower makes the most sense
sour crag
unfortunately "RS3 BAD!" so people would vote no out of pure spite if it were po...
or just build a altar in your house
or borrow someones altar
pale prairie
or just build a altar in your house
I think you're entirely missing the point here. Altars aren't available til 80 construction, this person's asking for a feature that would clearly be intended for midgame players. Also Irons exist.
and yeah wiz tower sounds like it'd be a good place for it
sour crag
I think you're entirely missing the point here. Altars aren't available til 80 c...
tp to cis fairy ring click altar twice for iron
pale prairie
Again, entirely missing the point. It's not a HUGE issue having to go that far out of the way to swap back, but it is still a pain in the ass nevertheless. This way would give midlevel accounts a slightly faster way to swap back to the standard book only
wild pike
CIS also requires 80k gp. Not a terribly large amount of money, but all the same.
A way to switch back to the standard spellbook before spending that money is nice.
sour crag
yea but its a big qol to even have it exist, id agree if its locked behind like lumby hard or elite
polar plaza
yeah this seems kinda pointless
esp if you can just switch spellbooks at any altar
or a poh
wild pike
Yeah I do think it would be a big QoL update, but I don't think it's that game changing.
If you have Lumbridge Elite diary done, you probably already have an Occult altar in your POH (maybe not with Hard diary), at which point yes this QoL becomes useless But it would be useful for the mid-level players who don't yet have one. Because I think the Occult altar's use is not only to easily change spellbooks, but the fact it provides a single place where you can change to any spellbook.
It would also be nice simply because it treats the Standard spellbook almost like an equal compared to the other spellbooks.
sterile badger
arceuus altar is already super easy to unlock and get to and with kourend favor changes the barrier to entry is gonna be even lower, i dont see the point to adding another altar
sour crag
You guys know it's literally just a right click option at the prayer alter in Falador right
sterile badger
yeah but like why, what would be the point. i can see it if they dont just make arceuus altar free like theyre planning but otherwise why
sour crag
QoL
sterile badger
i wanna understand, so whats the difference between me doing kharedst memoirs/c•i•s -> altar double click vs fally teleport -> altar click, account-wise
wild pike
i wanna understand, so whats the difference between me doing kharedst memoirs/c•...
I think Falador teleport -> altar click is objectively quicker to get to account-progression-wise than Kharedst Memoirs/CIS -> Tyss i.e. you'd be able to the former easily before you can do the latter easily.
That's my perspective, which is kind of dependent on the Arceuus spellbook being gated behind favour. If it's not gated behind something, then maybe there isn't any need for a Standard spellbook change.
Though to be honest, the Arceuus spellbook probably should be gated behind a quest or something now.
sour crag
That's my perspective, which is kind of dependent on the Arceuus spellbook being...
Thralls are
Which is good enough along with a couple spells
wild pike
Thralls are
Thralls are, but not the actual spellbook
Or it won't be once favour is removed.
sour crag
sterile badger
lowest barrier would be kharedst memoir unlock -> text/manuscripts at the library to 60% favour, this can be done immediately after leaving the tutorial cant it? it’s just 2 quests
sour crag
Oops
sterile badger
vs dt1 or fremmy questline or even just unlocking fally tele at 37 magic
it just feels like at the point where youd be able to take advantage of this thered be at the very least an equal option
wild pike
Ehh... maybe. Maybe getting the Arceuus spellbook and accessing the spell change is easier right now than getting Falador teleport (or anything similar like Lost City for Wizard's Tower).
wild pike
it just feels like at the point where youd be able to take advantage of this the...
Yeah maybe this is the case.
One thing I'll point out again: since favour is being removed, that means the Arceuus spellbook becomes even easier to get. You just need to be able to travel to Kourend, and you'll be able to get it.
Whether or not that should really be the case is a different question though.
sterile badger
for sure, neither kourend quest thats required for the spellbook has any requirements at all
i guess 2 quests and 60% favor wasnt a crazy ask anyway
sour crag
If you've only done DT1 and don't want to do more quests to change your spellbook back to normal and dont want to go all the way back to the pyramid
Or the other way around with arceuus
Falador is a common teleport and not a big ask for normal spellbook
its a game not a job
there is no downside to making normal spellbook swap accessible
its just being gatekept by: who?
they'll troll and type up a shit storm over nothing
like a child asking "why" over and over
the same people downvote every suggestion I make
theyre offended i told them to go fuck themself
dry fulcrum
So we just gonna devalue the grind for Sceptre and occult altar in the house
sour crag
You still get to have your all-in-one altar and others wont have to go across the world to swap back to a normal spell book
Like it was originally in what used to be RS2
sour crag
like a child asking "why" over and over
yea maybe its because you dont offer any valid arguments and then resort to insults and childish retorts… how are people gonna agree with you like that
all you do is bicker and hurl insults at people that disagree…
Hyprocrite
making "arguments" instead of having a discussion is exactly why you deserve to be insulted. not everything is a fucking argument, english 101
theres another insult for you
inland beacon
the suggestion was doomed from the start when you mentioned RS3 because that makes people pop a hate bone and theyre gonna dislike the suggestion regardless of what it was
sterile badger
if youve done dt1 why wouldnt you do the 2 kourend quests needed to swap at arceuus, same if youve done lunar diplomacy
its like 20 minutes to do those
sour crag
I've done both and lunars, but I had to travel half way across the world to swap to normal, tele out on accident thinking I was on normals, then tele back to swap to normal spellbook
sterile badger
yeah but its the same effort to tele to fally or wherever else as it is to tele to arceuus
sour crag
You tele to the place that houses the spellbook you want, simple
sterile badger
are you walking there or what
so we get rid of double click to swap back to normal?
thats a different suggestion entirely
sour crag
What the fuck? no
Just add a place to swap to the normal spell book
that was already in the game to begin with
am i speaking an entirely different language
I aced all of my fucking english assignments
or do people just try to think for me
sterile badger
the only argument i can see for this is to give standard spellbook consistency with the others in that theres a place to swap to it directly
but it just feels like itd be doa almost anywhere they put it
sour crag
DoA? it's not content it's QoL
dry fulcrum
Can't u just go to someone else's house and change it?
sterile badger
yes or arceuus if iron
dry fulcrum
Idk I play an iron
sour crag
Hop to world 330, run to rimmington, search for someone advertising, all for normal spell book?
sour crag
the suggestion was doomed from the start when you mentioned RS3 because that mak...
even without the rs3 suggestion it would been a bad idea regardless
dry fulcrum
U don't have to search there's literally a hub to join peoples houses lol
And if u don't want to do that
U can always build one yourself
🙂
sterile badger
doa becuase by the time youve unlocked a second spellbook unlocking arceuus to swap back most easily is a very short grind if you can call it that
sour crag
we have plenty of things from rs3 that people didnt mind so idek what that argument was supposed to be about
like some shit got literally ported from rs3
alright lets close it up
and people dont really mind it
sterile badger
so whats the utility of a dedicated place
sour crag
go on with your day if you have a life
dry fulcrum
I mind the idea. Its a progression thing. Do your quests or build one yourself
sour crag
the only arguments Ive seen from this guy is "fuck you and your arguments and points"
dry fulcrum
Wut
sterile badger
????
sour crag
youre on every suggestion page, go back to bed
dry fulcrum
Lmaooooo
sour crag
you have school in the morning
its kinda sad how he cant hold a proper conversation, yet calls everyone a child
like we cant even have a proper discussion to why the idea is bad
or if its good
you have no friends but you wish you did
and makes zero arguments besides "qol"
mfer might as well say "start the game maxed its qol"
i dont play this game, or social media as a job, i dont have the time
sour crag
yep see
dry fulcrum
Its not a race so u can't take all the time you need to unlock the altar
But until then it's gonna suck to change ur spell book
sour crag
yea its like how you start off the game with no free teleports
and slowly unlock fairy rings and spirit trees
You have home teleport.
dry fulcrum
On a 30 minute cool down
sour crag
that wasnt in 07 scape it was QoL
dry fulcrum
Everything is limited until you unlock stuff. Progression game
sour crag
forget about minigame teleports. QoL BTW
sour crag
Muttataker just loves to hate me and I dont give a flying fuck about him
dry fulcrum
So block them
sour crag
Bro hates discussions
and just wants his ideas implemented
its a suggestion
he can do no wrong
he is always right
I'm tired of see you in my threads
and your stupid emojis
dry fulcrum
Well when u post a suggestion here u have to be prepared for both negative and positive feedback lol
Kinda an open thread
sour crag
Yeah yeah
half these people are in middle school through college, practicing their "arguements" for their college papers and their ineviatble jobless life
the majority of players dont use social media
or dont engage
social media users are all hypocrites and they're not worth a moment of consideration
people used to post on the forums, which is kind of how EoC happened I assume
Someone had a good "arguement" on why RS2 needed to have a "modern" combat style like WoW, or how the wilderness should be removed, or how trading should be 1:1 on the value of the item
brazen nymph
@sour crag if you have issues with users you should ignore them/block them. Insulting people in this server is not okay. Please read the #old-rules