Slayer's Signet/Boss Heads

[prime crescent]

Ring

Bought through Slayer points

When equipped has a 1/4 chance to store a charge when fighting a creature assigned by a Slayer master. Right click option shows charges. When worn on a task while also using a bane weapon the bane weapon will not lose charges; bane weapons that do not use charges will instead increase drop rates on boss heads/superiors. The ring holds 20,000 charges, and charges can be consumed for 20,000 x 0.01 rate of slayer points. When the Slayer's Signet is earned it starts with small stats, charges are built up into the ring below.

• Stack with Ghommal's Penny

(On task) Offensive Stats

+1-8 Slash
+1-8 Stab
+1-8 Crush
+1-8 Magic
+1-8 Range

+3-6 Strength Bonus
+1-4 Prayer
+0-2% Magic DMG
+0-2 Range DMG

Slayer Points can now be spent buy boss tasks (including raid and dungeon bosses) at a floor of 200-1000 points.

I believe this will add a sidegrade ring that only works in Slayer and will not outperform the BiS combat rings. Additionally giving people a repeatable loop and decision to make while training Slayer. While offering another upgrade from https://discord.com/channels/324132423636090880/1183487204534788106 for the beginner through expert level player. If Jagex finds the right balance for this ring and takes the suggestion I think it'll be a boon for starter and veteran players alike.
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Slayer's Signet starts out as "Mysterious Signet Ring" a very rare drop from ||the return of Frost Dragons || atop Northern Tundras. A new mechanic is introduced to || Frost Dragons|| . Warm clothing is needed much like Wintertodt to not take heavy damage. Taking the "Mysterious Signet Ring" to a Slayer Master and paying 400 Slayer points rewards you with "Duradel Signet Ring" granting the above bonuses after charging the ring to it's full potential. Changing the signet on the face of the ring from another drop from Rune Dragons and reforging it allows it to be Warm Clothing.

Thank you for reading my suggestion

[neon shuttle]

a) wtf is a bane weapon
b) 100 charges for 1 slayer point is egregious, i would say at most 10 charges per point given how easy it is to get points
c) the magic and ranged dmg is unnecessary
d) please god no, no raid bosses in slayer thanks

[brisk rune]

dragonbane, demonbane, etc I presume is what they mean by bane weapons

[neon shuttle]

but isnt arclight the only 'bane weapon' with charges?

@slender dirge why did you leave your own thread

[brisk rune]

if the bane weapon does not use charges it will instead increase the drop rate on boss heads/superior monsters.

[brisk rune]

looks like they left the discord

or mobile is bugging for me

[neon shuttle]

skule

[neon shuttle]

nah this is stupid lol

[brisk rune]

agreed

they left out of embarrassment of this suggestion

[neon shuttle]

unlucky

[crisp geyser]

so just

an arclight buff?

oh wait

he left

[prime crescent]

Bane weapons are dragonhunting weapons, arclight, ratbone/ratbane (the new weapons releasing), and any future weapons that might be released.
20,000 charges for 200 slayer points is fair if you never plan on reverting my suggestion ring back to it's base stats. The ring should have a reason to revert and consume charges though; I will agree on that.
Magic and range dmg strictly for slayer tasks isn't a bad idea, or else you might as well just wear BiS rings for tasks, or just lower the bonus of my suggestion ring.
I don't like raids, don't like raid bosses, and don't like many bosses solo. I figured it would give a good bonus when doing a raid to have the slayer helm on during the boss. What effect would be better if you were on board with this ring idea?

[prime crescent]

It seems like an arclight buff because it is. Essentially the Arclight would still use charges off task while bossing or slaying demons.

[prime crescent]

I forgot about this post to be honest. I left for other reasons.

[prime crescent]

Boss heads tie into slayer helmet recolors, and more superiors.

[brisk rune]

all good - i dont think the suggestion is actually THAT bad but it just seems overdesigned and unnecessary

[prime crescent]

Overdesigned? What does that mean?

I often get told I don't actually have a structured idea, now I'm being told it's overdesigned. I'm not sure what to think about that.

[prime crescent]

It's not overdesigned if you think about tribrid/swaps during boss encounters. What comes to mind is KQ phases, but I don't have experience in many more bosses with swaps.

[neon shuttle]

I don't like raids, don't like raid bosses, and don't like many bosses solo. I figured it would give a good bonus when doing a raid to have the slayer helm on during the boss. What effect would be better if you were on board with this ring idea?
part of the reason i don't like this is that you shouldn't be able to have a slayer task for something that is competitively done for speedruns imo

also we already have the slayer helmet that buffs damage significantly on slayer tasks

we don't need more items giving you more damage for the same purpose

[prime crescent]

It may buff for slayer, but it's not supposed to outperform other imbued rings, and can't be used anywhere else, it's like a sidegrade with an effect specifically for slayer. More superiors, Arclight for casual Abyssals, Greaters, Black Demons, etc.

I didn't consider the speedrun thing, but that makes sense. I can respect it.

[neon shuttle]

a 2% magic damage bonus or 2 ranged str bonus matches a venator/magus ring

[prime crescent]

On Slayer task, yes

[neon shuttle]

yes

that is the point

[prime crescent]

The actual ring is 100m

plus a high level quest

[neon shuttle]

mid level quest but sure

[prime crescent]

What is it rated? Master or Grandmaster quest?

[neon shuttle]

gm

i mean you do the quest as a mid level

[prime crescent]

So not mid level IMO

[neon shuttle]

you dont need endgame or even late game gear to do dt2

[prime crescent]

Just did DT2 today actually

[neon shuttle]

and did you use late/endgame gear

[prime crescent]

Yes

[neon shuttle]

which was

[prime crescent]

Bandos, Fang, Serp, Tort, Lance, zerker ring, fcape

[neon shuttle]

i cant imagine you needed full torva infernal cape voidwaker and scythe for quest duke

wtf did you use a lance for

there aren o dragons

[prime crescent]

MB I meant DS2 MBMB

[neon shuttle]

also i dont think any of that is considered late/endgame im gonna be honest

fire cape and quest cape are usually what people consider 'entering midgame' prior to dt2 release

[prime crescent]

Subjective

[neon shuttle]

torture i can see as being obtained later on an ironman specifically but on a main its what just like 8mil

serp is a few mil, i hope by bandos you mean bandos tassets but fighter torso

and a lot of mid-level irons rush b ring

[prime crescent]

BCP for the defence

[neon shuttle]

and a lot of mid-level irons go for fang now too

since its obnoxiously good for how common of a drop it is

[prime crescent]

Experienced players?

[neon shuttle]

well you dont need to be experienced really to do toa

just need to know how the raid works and ur good

[prime crescent]

I dont have the range levels to do even the quest for ToA

[neon shuttle]

i mean

this is kinda part of my point

you're saying you did ds2 with late/endgame gear but you cant even access toa

what bing bong logic is this

[prime crescent]

I play the game

[neon shuttle]

i didnt even know the toa quest had a ranged req wtf

[prime crescent]

2nd fight needs to be killed with range

Blowpipe is recommended

[neon shuttle]

i did with rcb

and broad bolts

didnt even bring an antipoison or stam

[prime crescent]

How does this tie into the slayer ring suggestion

[neon shuttle]

i mean overall, the ring giving ranged/magic bonus is silly and overtuned

200 points for 20k charges is silly and overtuned

slayer as of right now is pretty strong for what it is if you do it well

[prime crescent]

At a 1/4 rate of 1 charge?

[neon shuttle]

wat

[prime crescent]

Minimum of 20,000 hits while training slayer

[neon shuttle]

1/4 chance to store a charge when fighting a creature assigned by a Slayer master.
this makes it sound like 75% chance of using a charge

[prime crescent]

25% chance to store 1 charge when fighting a slayer monster

[neon shuttle]

ok but like what the fuck does that mean

what is storing a charge

[prime crescent]

Charging the slayer ring and levelling it's stats from +1 to a max of +8

[neon shuttle]

ok so you're saying instead of having 20k charges and going down to 0, you want it to start at 0 charges and cap at 20k

[prime crescent]

Yeah I thought that was clear

[neon shuttle]

i mean 99.9% if not 100% of items do not do that

[prime crescent]

Its new and exciting

[neon shuttle]

is it

[prime crescent]

I would use it

[neon shuttle]

and charges can be consumed for 20,000 x 0.01 rate of slayer points.
so this means you want to reduce charges

and gain slayer points?

if so absolutely not

[prime crescent]

There's 0 reason to consume the charges for slayer points, but it's an option

[neon shuttle]

slayer points are easy enough as is

why make it so much easier

[prime crescent]

25% chance to get 1 charge and at 20,000 charges you can get 200 slayer points, seems fair

[neon shuttle]

just afk task with the literal worst dart you have access to in the worst ranging bonus you can have and after an hour you have 4.5 slayer points, and that's fully afk

pretty sure this matches inefficient slayer for slayer points while not having to actually to even try slayer properly

[prime crescent]

Minimum of 20,000 hits takes a long time

[neon shuttle]

40,000 ticks

[prime crescent]

it's mostly about the stats and earning a slayer ring

[neon shuttle]

so like under 7 hours

other than just kinda being like

[prime crescent]

7 hours minimum

[neon shuttle]

powercreep

i dont get the point of the ring

arclight charges are like, not hard to maintain if you aren't being silly

[prime crescent]

I wanna be silly and use the Arclight on regular slayer monsters? why

I dont always wanna boss

I dont play the game efficiently. I take the path of least resistance

its a game

It's a cool ring if you don't think about the math

[neon shuttle]

i mean yea

tumeken's shadow sounds cool if you don't think about the maths

but then you do

and you realise it's fucking stupid

[prime crescent]

you dont play video games to have fun

[prime crescent]

Am I wrong? Tumeken's Shadow is bad ass.

[neon shuttle]

if by "bad ass" you mean "bad for game integrity" i absolutely agree

[crisp geyser]

it takes one nech task

to have like 10k charges

[neon shuttle]

ye

[prime crescent]

Yeah well if you can afford a 1.7b weapon it should be strong.

And it's not always about the money. It comes as an ultra rare drop from an epic raid.

[maiden plaza]

Ultra-rare?
It's the easiest megarare to get from the easiest raid in the game

Time to get something doesn't mean the strength should be so high that it makes everything else pale in comparison

It's 1.7b because it's so strong, it's not 1.7b and that is what makes it strong.

[neon shuttle]

3rd age pickaxe is the rarest pickaxe in the game

imo it should 1 tick every single ore

including amethyst

on top of that, it should respawn the ore instantly.

[prime crescent]

Updated my suggestion with more flavor