#New Mid Level Content Community Vote

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edgy fox
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what

ember solstice
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What do you mean? Just add scaling damage/defense/hp? Shitty idea

edgy fox
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to what

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the dungeon we know nothing about?

analog ore
ember solstice
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The colosseum is just a wave system right? It seems like you dont need invos to make it harder, it does that itself

analog ore
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add invocations to sailing tbh

edgy fox
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true

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can we add invos to tob

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remove blood spawns from maiden

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also what is this for

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this has 0 info

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hasnt come up with a name
hasnt described what they do

ember solstice
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Thats what he does best Evan, spouts random shit and then expects people to applaud him

edgy fox
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you havent described anything?

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if youre gonna make an idea at least finsih it

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and saying "yeah they should add stuff to the game" isnt a very productive method

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what invocations

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what are they for

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what do they do

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what do they do

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for waht dungeon

ember solstice
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I love you saying this for a thing that has barely been polled and also we have absolutely 0 information about. So helpful truly

edgy fox
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like im not trying to be mean

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i just dont understand

ember solstice
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I wish my brain was so smooth

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Life would be so easy if I didnt have to think ever

edgy fox
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i have an idea

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we should add stuff to the game

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what do you all think

ember solstice
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Huge idea evan, I love it

edgy fox
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came up with it myself

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discuss what

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youve given 0 info

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and expect me to be like "oh yeah i get it"

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bro you just posted in old school in the suggestions tab

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and have 0 info

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and get mad when i ask questions

ember solstice
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We literally cant, we know nothing about the things coming that you want to "add invos" to

edgy fox
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what is the dungeon

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the colloseum?

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asking questions about a vauge suggestion is something people do to understand

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would you mind clarifying on what content you are discussing adding invos to

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?????

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am i being fucked with

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invocation to what

brittle lintel
edgy fox
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100%

hollow belfry
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cruton i thought u quit the server

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can u do it again

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but this time dont come back

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thanks

fathom sandal
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But you haven't really suggested anything people can think about

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Because it seems like you're saying invocations should be a feature on the new bosses and it should be polled.

But if that's what you mean you've been very unclear as to that

wintry jasper
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Invos suck

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Jagex can’t do them well so I never want to see them again

fathom sandal
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Invos are great, they just need to be applied properly

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And balanced properly

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They've only had 1 attempt at it , but the feedback applied would hopefully make it better in future

hollow belfry
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Mmm invos are pretty bad

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cant say id like to seem em again

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just do the entry normal and cm/hard/expert difficulty

hollow belfry
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But with more than 2 difficulties

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3 is a good number

hollow belfry
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dont need to fix whats not broken

hollow belfry
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no

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just entry (no drops) regular (normal mode) and hard mode

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(kits)

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thats fine tbh

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for medium level dungeons

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we already have this system for raids

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theres no need for medium dungeons when we already have alot of med lvl content

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the dungeons releasing in Varlamore

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do you raid

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vorkath ,muspah, zulrah, gwd, dt2 bosses

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i have 2000 kc 1400 kc and 400 kc respectively

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of each raid

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we dont need anymore mid game content

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dt2 bosses aren't mid level content

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wtf

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its been bloated for the past 5 years

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they are

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unless awakened

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awakened sure

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not the reg ones tho

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sheesh

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there's no official scaling on difficulty

edgy fox
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tbh like

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if you look at the game as a whole like

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80% of the content is midgame

hollow belfry
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mid game is what level

edgy fox
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id say around like

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~barrows gloves/fire cape to raids

analog ore
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that’s broad as hell

edgy fox
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which is a LOT of content

analog ore
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ye

edgy fox
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yeah if you separate the game into

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early game
mid game
late/end game

analog ore
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end mid game how about that

hollow belfry
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I'm CB~107, fire cape, MA2 cape, 1500 total and I can't do zulrah

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so

edgy fox
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skill issue

hollow belfry
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yeah and

analog ore
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zulrah hard to kill first time

edgy fox
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thats all

hollow belfry
analog ore
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just keep trying

hollow belfry
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The run back takes too long

edgy fox
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id say level wise like

analog ore
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you can fairy ring thwre

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lol

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it’s close af ?

edgy fox
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~diary cape is around when you start hitting late game

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games fucking big

analog ore
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can also buy tp but expensive

hollow belfry
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reclaim > bank > regear/restock > attempt

analog ore
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ok yeah that’s what it takes to learn it

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you gotta put the work in

hollow belfry
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i wont do it then

analog ore
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noob

edgy fox
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man now im in the mood for zulrah

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ill run in circles for a few hours

hollow belfry
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I just did mage only KQ

edgy fox
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gz?

hollow belfry
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That was 1 inven of food

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solo, mage only KQ

analog ore
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just because it’s hard doesn’t mean you can’t do it. failing a lot is part of the process and once you master it makes it way more satisfying looking at how far you’ve come

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just send it man

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kq smacks hard af it’s an old boss badly designed

hollow belfry
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Yeah, but death mechanics should be scaled like raids where you lose points and not have to pay GP

analog ore
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it’s not that much gp

hollow belfry
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disagreee

analog ore
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you will make it back too

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it’s the cost of learning the content which probably ends up making more than you lost also zulrah deaths are free until you have 50kc

hollow belfry
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My zulrah is free, I'll do that soon. but honestly doesn't have a lot of rewards

edgy fox
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what do you mean

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it has like the best ranged weapon in the game

analog ore
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zulrah isn’t that good gp yeah

hollow belfry
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I'm not iron

edgy fox
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ok

opaque nova
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eh tbf zulrah gp is meh

edgy fox
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and you can still make like

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3m

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fun boss decent money

analog ore
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max gear lol

edgy fox
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esp midgame

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bp trident is like

opaque nova
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nah it maxes out at like 1.5-2m now, shit's botted

edgy fox
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fine

analog ore
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scales are so cheap now

hollow belfry
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for the amount of effort required it's not worth to me

opaque nova
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it's a pretty chill boss once you learn rotations, but the learning cliff is pretty steep

hollow belfry
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'literally jad phase without animations

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and forcing me to use runelite to play? wow

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I use runelite but wow

analog ore
opaque nova
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you.. don't have to use runelite to play.

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I learned zulrah when we didn't have zulrah plugins.

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it just helps the learning process

edgy fox
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sufferings are 10 mil

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GYATT

analog ore
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i learned zulrah without the plug-in the plug-in was just distracting

opaque nova
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zulrah is about knowing what you're going to do next, if you have the fight memorized it's actually really easy.

analog ore
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yep

hollow belfry
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hmm

opaque nova
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if you want something where you react to what happens, maybe try vork or muspah

edgy fox
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^^

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plus both of those are better money

analog ore
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ye

hollow belfry
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those bosses are questlocked to things I havent done yet. it's on my list, but i'm not actively trying to get to it

edgy fox
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just quest tbh

opaque nova
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you kinda have to remember that zulrah is a pretty "old" boss. It's the first "new-style" boss, they were ironing out the kinks with the type of difficulty they wanted.

edgy fox
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you have the money lmao

opaque nova
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Muspah's reqs are pretty low, you could also try working your way up to 150invo toa

hollow belfry
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the spirit is willing but the body is weak. i just want easier content

edgy fox
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?

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its hard to improve

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if you dont wanna improve

hollow belfry
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i dont want to improve much, so i just ask for easier content

edgy fox
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bad mindset

hollow belfry
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I dont play to be good. I play to have fun and grind

analog ore
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dude you can do it. it’s hard at first but trust me if you put the effort in the process of getting better is really satisfying. why do you think people do pvm. mastering a boss is a great feeling man you should give it a shot. get your ass kicked then kick the bosses ass

hollow belfry
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I dont play mmos to be good, if I wanna be good at a game I'll play Elden Ring

analog ore
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anybody can do it

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it’s not a bout being good

hollow belfry
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end of the day we have too much mid game content period. its time for more tob tier raids end of story

edgy fox
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idk i feel like the "im not good enough so the game needs to cater to me" isnt a very good argument

analog ore
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yeah dude you’re just la6

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lazy

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ngl

edgy fox
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cuz ive seen you complain and then get made fun of and then complain

analog ore
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like you’re obviously playing the wrong game if you don’t like being rewarded for putting in a good amount of effort

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lol

edgy fox
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^^^^

hollow belfry
edgy fox
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end game raid

hollow belfry
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why

edgy fox
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cuz end game has like

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3 pieces of content

hollow belfry
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mid game dungeon in the style of raids

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thats the thread ITT

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So

edgy fox
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ok

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so why are you telling me to come up with shit

hollow belfry
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you got a lot to say but not a lot of valuable insight

edgy fox
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i think it lacks detail

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in all honesty

hollow belfry
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I dont want to see exactly my idea in the game, thats not fun

hollow belfry
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mid game raid sounds like hella fun

edgy fox
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we have one

hollow belfry
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We have a mid game raid? LOL

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We have a very different idea of mid game raid

edgy fox
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toa scales from like

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500 total timmy

hollow belfry
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I've seen ToA, no way in HELL am i doin that

edgy fox
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wym

analog ore
# hollow belfry well maybe you should make some suggestions instead of reacting to everything

you want to do content. we tell you that you can do it but it is gonna be a little bit before you get good at it. we are just being honest. there are no shortcuts to learning a raid. do you just want like the most brain dead content anybody can do ? like anybody can just go pick it up it’s that simple. if you want that do bandos ina. group or something. otherwise stop bitching.

you’re asking for the game to hold your hand dude this is baby shit. so many people do these bosses with no issues. they do the work. they play the game. stop being a noob and actually try.

edgy fox
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what seems so bad

hollow belfry
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Just tell Jagex that all of my ideas are bad. Make sure they know, because I'm gonna keep suggesting stuff like this

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This is what I want

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This is what I think others want

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Not everyone is a ultra giga gamer

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What content you want me to do, AFK fishing?

edgy fox
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ok but like

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what in toa seems so bad

hollow belfry
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"casual content"

analog ore
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toa looks crazy because you are not familiar with it. of course it looks nuts. it took me 12 raids to get a deathless cox i forget toa. but it takes time to absorb all that in…doesn’t mean it’s impossible or super sweaty. you just do it - learn a bit get a bit better each run until you get comfortable

opaque nova
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no, we're wanting you to just.. git gud.

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like.

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learn

edgy fox
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i mean most of the rooms in toa are like

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tank n spank

hollow belfry
edgy fox
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thats like

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the hardest invocation

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lmao

opaque nova
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they are literally

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walking

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left middle right left middle right

analog ore
edgy fox
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without insanity

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its like

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5 ticks

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between lmao

opaque nova
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no like it's literally walking between 3 tiles in a sequence it's not rocket science

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there's no randomness

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nothing to react to

edgy fox
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^^

opaque nova
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you just go 1 2 3 1 2 3

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just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's hard

hollow belfry
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I think you should get more raids and raise the ceiling on content difficulty

analog ore
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??

hollow belfry
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But what I'm asking for is easy content every once in a while so I dont need to be shoehorned into perma raids

opaque nova
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there.. are.

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ok I'm not sure if you're understanding.

edgy fox
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and we literally get that

opaque nova
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the easy content exists

hollow belfry
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What is easy content to you?

opaque nova
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toa 0invocation
sarachnis
wildy bosses
giant mole
barrows

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hell, muspah is pretty easy

hollow belfry
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barrows is 15 years old

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so is mole

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wildy is pvp

edgy fox
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ok

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so whats the problem

opaque nova
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wildy is pve, with pvp interruption

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ToA is the most accessible raid ever, by design

hollow belfry
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i dont want to raid, holy fuck

analog ore
opaque nova
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why don't you want to raid

hollow belfry
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because go fuck yourself

opaque nova
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lol

analog ore
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this guy hates learning

edgy fox
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idk

analog ore
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aka dumb af

edgy fox
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youve never given an actual good reason

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other than "i dont wanna"

analog ore
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he just lazy and don’t like a challenge he should play hello kitty island adventure

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instead

edgy fox
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he left the thread lmao

hollow belfry
analog ore
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that guy is gonna quit the game who cares it isn’t for him

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he is a lazy bum who wants everything fed to him

edgy fox
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he back

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nvm

opaque nova
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nah he literally left the server

analog ore
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good

hollow belfry
unborn nymph
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fun read

edgy fox
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it says a lot about him as a person in my eyes

analog ore
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isn’t worth the effort

edgy fox
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i was literally a bond warrior

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lmao

analog ore
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brain of a child

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baby brain

edgy fox
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im the child here wtf

analog ore
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ok he baby

hollow belfry
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besides the base mechanics

analog ore
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it’s so forgiving

edgy fox
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its literally stepping stone mechanic

hollow belfry
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what is he gonna get stumped by akka puzzle or something?

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like

edgy fox
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i did

analog ore
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that shit took me a min to get down

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took me like 5+ mins first time i saw it lol

hollow belfry
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its cox crabs but it doesnt move and you dont need to recolour it

analog ore
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i didn’t know how the mirrors worked tbf lol

hollow belfry
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literally easier cox crabs

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what i did learn tho

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is that the laser beam is fat af

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like holy

analog ore
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still new to cox and those crabs just confuse the fuck outta me

hollow belfry
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think of it like akka mirror puzzle

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u wanna bounce the light into the crystals

unborn nymph
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cox crabs are weird. for most ppl they start off as one of the most hated rooms then it slowly becomes your favorite room cause its fast af

hollow belfry
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you bounce it off the crabs

analog ore
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ye

hollow belfry
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each crystal has a corresponding colour

analog ore
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this convo still blowing my mind

hollow belfry
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and u need to nail it with a certain colour

analog ore
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how does that guy not understand that unfamiliar shit is always going to be confusing

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like you don’t know it bro

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you gotta learn?

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hurts my head

hollow belfry
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green goes into magenta, red goes into blue crystal, blue goes into yellow and white goes into black

unborn nymph
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he probably just wants to prot prayer and click once = dead boss

analog ore
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yeah for sure

unborn nymph
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his ideal raid is probably just a single room with 5 moles

hollow belfry
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red is mel green is range and blue is mage

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so you hit the crab to change its colour temp

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so when the white orb bounced off it

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the colour changes and u wanna match it to the corresponding crystals

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oh ya and it only bounced in one direction

unborn nymph
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more content isnt necessarily inherently a bad thing, even if its as ridiculous as just 5 moles in a room. hes just facing so much shit for it cause the endgame crowd is starving

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they want jagex to prio difficult stuff

analog ore
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he wants a raid where it’s just this.

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unborn nymph
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ya

analog ore
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nah this shit probably still tough for him he’d be trying to shove wrong shapes in holes

unborn nymph
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lol maybe

analog ore
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dark side phil energy

edgy fox
hollow belfry
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this was 3 years ago

unborn nymph
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ya im of the opinion that they need to add more actually hard stuff before more early/mid

hollow belfry
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reason why people cant find end game clans to be in

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is cause most end game players who would have been mentors

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quit

unborn nymph
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like if they add something thats awakened levi difficulty that gives 20m/hr itd be great

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reward excellent gameplay

hollow belfry
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please just add a 20m/h team raid

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thats punishing fun

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and simple to pick up

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hard to master

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and methods can be invented and not shoehorned in

unborn nymph
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we will see what the coliseum is like i suppose

hollow belfry
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like levels of

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oops i misclicked

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team eats 80 damage each

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but also make it simple enough that its technically easy

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but not really if you misclick

unborn nymph
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the funny thing too is that im sure the op hasnt even touched half the mid game shit yet but he thinks hes out of stuff to do

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like he said hes too lazy to unlock muspah

hollow belfry
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bro has all the content to do

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but says theres nothing

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what can ya do

unborn nymph
hollow belfry
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hes like the picky eater

unborn nymph
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even cg is just late mid

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he can work up to that

hollow belfry
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entire buffet in front of him

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but cries cause it doesnt have chicken tendies

unborn nymph
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ya maybe he will figure it out maybe not

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they are adding that goblin boss too maybe thatll make him happy

hollow belfry
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the mind goblin

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@hollow belfry go learn some mid game bosses before deciding there isnt enough

wintry jasper
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But they literally did nothing post launch beside some minor changes

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Let’s be honest you could easily ask this community for some suggestions and you’d get loads

fathom sandal
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yeah the invo system isnt the problem at all

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its the type of invos , weighting and their slow paced to change anything

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but there isnt anything wrong with having base akkah and being able to work your way up to DT+kb+FS+SV

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as long as the base boss isnt brain dead then invos can offer a lot

daring herald
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all of this is mid-game content with pretty low skill floors and decently high skill ceilings (minus vork and kraken/thermy being the same at any stage)

edgy fox
fathom sandal
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I can't tell whose trolling and whose serious feelsroqman

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But do people really think there isn't enough easy content in the game?

fathom sandal
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But all the rest are definitely easy/chill for anyone whose gone past the barrows , kbd and entry boss stage

daring herald
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meanwhile masses are braindead

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I would classify duke as easy too, but that's about it in the dt2 department

fathom sandal
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I genuinely forgot that Duke existed

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Okay yeah throw that In too

fathom sandal
daring herald
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mhm

fathom sandal
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But overall I agree. We have excess mid level content for people who just want easy bosses

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Any other mid level boss needs to purely be for people who actually want to get better

daring herald
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and we already have that

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cg

hollow belfry
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but ye

fathom sandal
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yeah im gonna guess that people of that skill level wont be doing that

karmic garden
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id fit right in

edgy fox
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idk i feel like the fact of the matter is you gotta learn the content

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you can’t just not learn shit then whine about there’s no content catered directly for you

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“i want early game content that is engaging and makes money and is fun” are all things that don’t go together lmao

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like the point of the game is to learn and improve and if you aren’t willing to do that and then you proceed to complain and whine when people tell you to just learn the content it seems foolish

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it ain’t like an elitist point of view either

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it’s like asking to work at mcdonald’s and get a 401k, a 7 figure salary, and a lambo