#Make World 320 competitive Soul Wars World for High Scores

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cerulean dawn
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World 320 should be the only world for high scores . Since all worlds have been opened up to soul wars there has been open cc boosting and botting on private worlds even videos on youtube about it. Now high scores are infected with players that have boosted or botted their way up into the top 25 in rank .

This is not fair for the players that play the game the way it is supposed to be played . It takes away the competition for the real players of the game and makes their efforts mean nothing .

  1. Make w 320 the competitive high score one world only all other worlds high scores would not register . The reason for w 320 is it is the only world where true games are played without cheating .

If you are not familiar with what boosting means and how it is played in soul wars, both teams do the minimum amount of playing for the zeal then stop playing for a tie game receiving 50 zeal every game. ( a rigged game )

An actual competitive real game is . Win 60 zeal , Tie 50 zeal , lose 40 zeal .

The situation is bad right now and we are a community of runescape that is under attack . We care about the game of soul wars and its integrity !!

If it was pk , pvm or skilling this was happening to it would be a big uproar . Put yourselves in our shoes .

All i can say is mods please look into this soon before it really ruins the game .

Thankyou

proper spruce
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Mini game ranking improvements would be great, and removing boosting from hi scores with a consolidated world sounds like a good step

tacit blade
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Agreed wholeheartedly, making soul wars playable on every world is slowly killing the mini-game, there should be one main world which is 320. As the post is about boosting, there's too many "boosting" clans that massively influence gold farmers and bots to join them which is further ruining the reputation of the mini-game, jagex need to look into this ASAP.

merry token
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Ew that minigame where maxxed 126 dudes just teabag every player they can?

candid wing
latent dune
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Locking high scores down to a single world / region is not such a great idea due to a worldwide player base, including australia and asia (server connection would be bad if they had to connect to a UK server) and I don't think it is even possible to lock high scores down to a single world with how the high scores DB is coded.

One thing to help the economy and deter gold farmers from playing / boosting soul wars would be to add useful non-tradeable items to the rewards table that are useful only at soul wars, remove PK supplies from possible rewards and leave all of those rewards to LMS. Crates / spoils of war can remain intact as all of the supplies from crates can be useful in SW games, minus the food drops, especially for ironmen / ironwomen

tacit blade
jade marsh
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The boosters really do ruin the competitiveness of the mini game. They run bot farms in their boosting world alongside their mains and have taken so many legit people who have grinded for hours off of the hiscores. ZG (zealgains) are the worst perpetrators of this which why the guy up there @latent dune has felt the need to hop on here and oppose a massively useful suggestion.

tacit blade
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@latent dune and the other zeal gains members only care about sw to run bots and goldfarm. Scummy operation from a scummy person

glacial stone
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please dont mass tag mods in here

jade marsh
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Ok but you think boosting should land you on the hiscores @latent dune ?

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You are literally cheating people out of being on the hiscores

tacit blade
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I’ve literally spent thousands of hours at soul wars only to be passed on the hiscores by goldfarmers and bots. It’s mental

latent dune
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How am I cheating people out of being on the highscores? I don't control other people plus the high scores only require a minimum of 200 zeal to be on the highscores

glacial stone
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please be nice in this thread.

latent dune
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Thank you Sarah

jade marsh
tacit blade
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We haven’t said anything condescending, yet a false comment made that we “dox peoples information” hasn’t been deleted? I see

glacial stone
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please link me that message and i will gladly delete it.

tacit blade
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This one @glacial stone

glacial stone
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everyone is to remain nice and civil on this thread. if you can't do so i will be locking this thread.

jade marsh
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Ok deal

jade folio
latent dune
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Thank you Sarah, I'll keep doing my due diligence and report them via tipoff@ Jagex if they keep up the disruption / harassment in game

jade marsh
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I’m not trying to be hostile at all. I’m just passionate about people who work for hours like @tacit blade to make it in the top 25 to just be taken down by people in private games boosting

glacial stone
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you can voice your opinion CIVILIY and NICELY.

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naming and shaming won't be allowed, threats, etc.

jade folio
tacit blade
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320/350 or 535 as it was before*

jade marsh
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All we are trying to say is you can continue boosting for rewards what ever. It just shouldn’t be on the hiscores

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I don’t think that’s an unfair ask

latent dune
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I'd personally like to see the gold farmers and RWTers removed from SW completely and I know Jagex is doing their best. Thus why I provided a possible solution to deter the rule breakers from ruining the minigame even further. If they have no motive to come to soul wars to RWT their earnings, they won't be gaining zeal, which in turn won't increase their rankings on the high score

glacial stone
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@tacit blade that is enough

tacit blade
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??

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It was an open comment with no hostility?

jade marsh
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Because the truth is I don’t think half of the people in the top 100 would be there without boosting in private games

latent dune
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If you deter gold farmers from using soul wars to RWT their high scores will not increase as they won't actively be playing the minigame

jade marsh
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That’s not the main issue here. The main issue is not playing the game it was intended by boosting and getting on the hiscores

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Please refer to the thread name

tacit blade
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Then that's where boosting comes into it for the ones that are high ranked on the hi-scores, it comes down to the clans that help them.

If you think what we're talking about is a good idea as to the hi-scores you would agree, there's no need to make rewards untradeable as i mentioned earlier, it's just punishing legit players who use the item shop to make gp in-game.

latent dune
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I'm providing a solution that will tackle the main issue plus provide extra QOL for soul wars overall, in my opinion as well as protection of the game economy

jade marsh
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For the QOL stuff you are proposing that is.

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I don’t think making 320 the only place to get onto the hiscore page would negatively effect soul wars in anyway shape or form. It would just deflate the ego’s of the people who gain the system by using private matches to passively gain zeal and get on the hiscores without actually playing.

tacit blade
jade marsh
latent dune
jade marsh
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Common ground 🤝

tacit blade
latent dune
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Yeah and as for banning boosting, if it is to be enforced, there need to be clear guidelines on how to play and how not to play the soul wars minigame. The reason I've been playing this game for 21 years is the openness and freedom to play the game how you want as long as you follow the games guidelines and rules, which for soul wars, currently none have been set.

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Side note: they should make it so PVP is required for the activity bar to go up. That would also remove a large group of people who are playing the minigame for supplies, and not the competition

tacit blade
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The only thing that confuses me, people have copped bans for boosting castle wars with their own two accounts to benefit themselves for items, but boosting in soul wars which is a pvp-based minigame and is intended to be played as it is in 320, nobody has ever caught bans for boosting their zeal or to benefit themselves, it's a strange system

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LMS boosting is also bannable, i just can't understand why the rules are different for soul wars

stone fulcrum
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Clear guidelines on how to play? Isn't there a tutorial at soulwars?

ancient wagon
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Wait, seriously? People have gotten in trouble for grinding out Castle Wars tickets with an alt?

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There are so many prominent content creators that have very publicly done that for Collection Log grinds 😐

tacit blade
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In the past yeah, not of recent times, content creators also share accounts but that's a different thread hahaha

latent dune
tacit blade
latent dune
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It's a PvE minigame

tacit blade
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PVP/PVE, whatever you want to call it, if it wasn't meant for pvp you wouldn't have the option to attack other players, simple as.

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We're going off topic again anyway, we've clogged the thread up with enough muck but we'll just see how it pans out

jade folio
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Have you recently checked out the top 100 scorers in SW? Unfortunately, there are all boosters/gold farmers & botters usernames if you haven't. The individuals in world 320 who are truly working hard for their rank and Zeal and who play SW as it is intended to be played are not at all pleased with this.

SW for one world could be a bit excessive due to connectivity problems, but at the very least, we should keep SW to three worlds. precisely as it was before to the alteration. My team and I are committed to stopping these botters by locating the worlds that the gold farming are cheating on and putting an end to this ridiculous operation, but sadly it is challenging to do so because there are three to four random worlds filled with them and each boat that has at least 40+ booster/botters inside.

I sincerely hope Jagex investigates this serious problem and finds a solution that locks the worlds to either one or three core SW worlds. This means players can readily identify boosters and botters, report them, and even make the games more challenging for them. In my opinion, "Zealgains" is a significant gold-farming CC that Jagex should start investigating and take action against the leaders for designing such an unfair system to other dedicated players.

cerulean dawn
jade folio
smoky yew
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Good afternoon folks of the thread. I would like to start by saying Gold farmers and bots boosting are a huge issue , hurting our economy and devailuing real players achievements 100% at everypoint they can in the game. Also as a long standing member and general in the zealgains fc that Miami named I full heartidly would love for Jagex to keep a constant eye,when I log into that chat it's to help irons and lower levels reach goals and play soulwars efficiently as the in-game mechanics allow. with that said Ive read several solutions presented I think could be culminated to resolve the issues at hand , first bring the world's back to the 3 original. I suggest reduce valuable rewards in favor of maybe new cosmetic or non tradeable rewards. The incorporation of pvp weighing your status bar and points heavier could also insetivive players to engage in pvp as it could no longer be ignored. If boosting in general cannot be curved I would hope to see steps atleast taken to curve the botting and gold farmer problems in the mini game.

tacit blade
# smoky yew Good afternoon folks of the thread. I would like to start by saying Gold farmers...

The sad part is, i know you guys love boosting and fair enough, but as long as there's boosting cc's the goldfarms and bots won't ever go away. With it being all worlds atm as well it's slowly on a massive decline as a few of the others have said, legit players are being pushed down the hi-scores due to boosters whether they be actual legit players or belong to a bot-farm.

Main thing here that we can all take away is i think all of us are agreeing that the update should be reverted back to those 3 original worlds.

jade folio
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Boosting CC's/FC's are merely gold farmers that only benefit their own pockets in real life.

cerulean dawn
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Well I guess all we can do is wait to see if they do anything . I could go with three worlds where high scores only register . I don't agree with what I am going to say but for the rest of the private worlds they can do what they want as long as its doesn't register on high scores . If all depends on what jagex wants to do or if they will to do anything at all .Lets all hope they do something .

tacit blade
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I am a rank in a boosting clan. The games are run to avoid 126s farming lowbies. We don't condone gold farmers. We support the idea that imbues, xp and cash should be available to people without having 126s farm them to death for no zeal

tacit blade
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You support what you support as do we, the minigame is PVP based which is why you can attack others, this has went on from pre-eoc

tacit blade
tacit blade
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It isn’t our fault that we actually put time into our accounts and are maxed level

tacit blade
tacit blade
tacit blade
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Idk why you keep calling it a “maxed main farm”, we’re a group of mates that play soul wars that kill everyone 🤣🤣

tacit blade
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Everyone has commented on this "dying" minigame. I would argue that it is dying because as a low level you just get farmed and get no zeal thus removing the allure of soulwars from future players.

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Again, I'm all for pvp, but we need to be reasonable. The wilderness is tiered, pc is tiered, everything in game is tiered, why are you against difficulty and rewards not scaleable in this?

tacit blade
tacit blade
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There’s other ways of making zeal other than running to mid and hoping for the best, bury bones, heal people, avatar damage, only way people get “farmed” is if they hang around a grave or keep going mid 🤣

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You’re obviously quite new to this soul wars stuff, there’s more to it but there’s hypocrites in here so i can’t comment on it

tacit blade
tacit blade
tacit blade
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“A falling out” 🤣🤣 we don’t care for boosting, what we do is certain peoples faults, as i said you’re obviously new to this and know nothing about it

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You don't know who I am lol. I'm quite aware

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Just because I'm an advocate for low levels and irons does not mean I am myself

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Don’t really care either tbh lol, main point of the post is about the hi-scores and boosting and you’re trying to flip it onto me

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I'm speaking to boosting. You referred to me well before I did you. None of us give a shit about highscores. We want access to worlds without 126 accounts farming lowbies for zeal

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I don't have an issue with you at all. I have an issue with the concept that it has to be pvp with mains on 320 or nothing

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Many of us have already previously mentioned that we don’t want it to be only 320, reverting the mini-game back to the original three worlds would somewhat revive the mini-game as there wouldn’t be players spread out all over different worlds.

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What are your thoughts on three worlds with lvl requirements then? So it's actually pvp and not noob farming?

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There already is level requirements, level 40 combat

tacit blade
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Yeah so 40 combat on a world full of bis 126 is fair how?

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Sounds just as bad as edgeville no honor pking

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Don’t be bad at the game, it’s simple as that

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Don’t go when you’re level 40 and expect a PVP based mini-game to cater to your terrible account

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Then why should it cater to nerds who actually care about highscores?

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Soulwars for an iron is one of the best means for making money. For a pure, one of the fastest means of xp. So limit the ability for them to gain these just so you can farm them and get highscores?

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I think you’re getting heated and misinterpreting the post…go chill out for 10 minutes

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I'm not heated at all lol I'm having a debate based on logic. I have nothing to gain here

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The point of the post is to have hi-scores only viable for 320 as the hi-scores are filled with boosters and bots, there’s legit players that play the mini-game everyday for fun and they’re being challenged on the scores by “cheaters” essentially, we’re not saying “make 320 the only world so we can farm irons” so you can stop crying about that, it’s simply to have the hi-scores only in 320

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I enjoy the zeal xp on my pure and I'm hunting the pet on my main still

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I'm not crying about anything. Maybe you should take a break haha. Don't get heated about nothing. I've suggested ideas to solve issues and you are just trying to avoid them

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Can’t really say you’re “debating” when all you keep saying is “max mains farming irons” 🤣

tacit blade
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And what ideas have you suggested?

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Either you don't know how to read, or have chosen not to actually read anything I have written. Scroll up

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A combat level requirement? Isn’t really an idea as it’s already a thing 🤣🤦🏻‍♂️

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There you go, read more than one sentence. You can do it

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Summarise your ideas

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I believe in you

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There goes your debate out the window whenever you start trying to insult someone hahahahah

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I never insulted you. I'm speaking to you as one would a child

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Debate done anyway, once you go on the offensive during a “debate” you’ve already lost your head

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Cool down for 10 minutes and come back

glacial stone
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Everyone needs to be civil and be nice. Don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say it, if you guys can’t remain civil on the post we will lock it.

tacit blade
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I am a pillar of civility

worldly needle
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This is actually hilarious

foggy shell
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320 is aids to play on unless you have maxd out gear and stats. haves vs have nots
one could say that was the reason its now open to all worlds.

suggestion maybe make it similar to pest control with lvl tier matches.
except reversed; example match A lvl 100+ match B lvl 40-99
lv 100+ can not join match B lvl 40-99 can not join match A

I think it would be much more competitive for all players gear or not.

tacit blade
lean idol
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This can so easily be solved how pvp arena was solved

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Ranked matches only available on certain worlds, every other world is unranked. Incentives to play ranked

lean idol
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Zeal and soul wars rank could just be seperate, with a 15% buff to zeal if you play ranked

tacit blade
tacit blade
lean idol
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It's still not

cerulean dawn
worldly needle
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Why are my posts being deleted?

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Nothing I said was offensive or out of line

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@glacial stone

smoky yew
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for anyone that missed his post ^ i believe ultimately, he was just asking if we are talking about boosting why arnt we talking about the many Goldfarm and bot clans as well as the rank 1 player in soul wars who was confirmed to boost there zeal. which I did touch on briefly in my initial post too. i still think a good solution regardless of botting , boosting , goldfarming or any combo of those, the original 3 worlds we kept mentioning still sounds like it would potentially eliminate them also.

cerulean dawn
# smoky yew for anyone that missed his post ^ i believe ultimately, he was just asking if we...

Boosting , gold farming and bots all go hand in hand . All of them contribute to the infestation of the zeal high scores and integrity of soul wars . The reason I mentioned 320 world for high scores is that the other soul wars worlds have been empty since jagex opened up all the worlds . You have to wonder why they opened them all up .The only reason I can think of is the clan battles between the real players and the boosters when there was only 3 worlds . Do they care ? you have to wonder or it was not thought out fully what would happen . I am in the top 25 and have played 10,000 games of soul wars starting out in the low 70s .I have never botted ,boosted , or had anyone play for me . This goes for a lot of the players i have played with from the beginning the way the game is supposed to be played . All our hard work to be in the top 25 is and has been undermined by boosters bots and farmers . It is not right or fair . i would be for bringing back the 3 worlds for high scores but is this what jagex wants ? the only simple way to fix the problem if they want to keep it open to all worlds is high scores should only register on the 3 worlds the rest of the worlds it should not. What is going on now is something that should not be neglected . Soul wars has always been very competitive and they could do so much more for the game and it players like tournaments for small and large clans ,fp2 gear and spell modes , rotating different arenas (like purple portal clan wars ) .

smoky yew
# cerulean dawn Boosting , gold farming and bots all go hand in hand . All of them contribute to...

i do wonder too why they did what they did. even as a historically boosting player it didn't make sense to me lol. and trust me when i say, i get yalls perspective for earning your highscores, dont get me wrong, its partly why i agree with alot of this thread. them opening up to the rest of the worlds definitely didn't help the health of the minigame. 535 and 350 never have anyone there at all anymore and 320 seems to be a shadow of what it once was when i arrive. if boosting has to die for the minigame to survive it is what is lol . i love soulwars since rs2 and i dont wanna see it dying anymore. the tournaments could be a fun idea, was thinking we needed a new sws map for a while too! would be great playing the familiar mechanics with a different coat of paint

cerulean dawn
# smoky yew i do wonder too why they did what they did. even as a historically boosting play...

Rs2 Soul Wars vet here also . Some crazy competitiveness back then that sometimes could get brutal lol . But very much fun . As for why they opened up all the worlds it was the only reason i could think of as to why . Jagex does not seem to be a fan of mini games but there is so much potential for them to make them really great .I think they did a really good job with soul wars on osrs up until all worlds opened . My next thread in the future is going to be on tournaments and rotating arenas and more in the future.

smoky yew
cerulean dawn
errant jolt
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Not everyone boosts to RWT or bot lol. Some of us do it just for the XP. I had no idea private game gave rank. They could just make private games not affect the hiscore. Jagex changed it to allow people to play on every world so they either don't mind or don't know this is an issue.

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Like I am a 10HP iron and the funny thing is that when they added SW I had people complaining that I wasn't helping the game. Now people complaining about boosting lol. I would do PC for XP but that's full of bots too, bad ones when I am on at least. I don't care about the hiscore so if they fixed that would you guys still care about it?

jade folio
stone fulcrum
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Bring back when you can pick red or blue team 💪🏻

latent dune
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I'm all for competitive 1-3 world Soul wars as long as there is something done about the massive amount of reports that are sent to Jagex in regards to harassment / real life threats and disruptive gameplay. The main reason why alot of legitimate players (not real world traders, botters, or Gold farmers) today resort to boosting is because of the competitiveness turned into toxicity via egoism. There are so many hurt, toxic egos that resort to breaking game rules, sabotaging the minigame, and disrupting normal gameplay when games don't play to their favour. I wonder if there is some restriction that Jagex could implement only within the soul wars minigame with a quick chat only feature for public chat while playing soul wars to reduce the amount of toxic flaming, real life threats, and racism that unfortunately has been associated with the Soul wars minigame. Maybe then, people would be less deterred from competing in soul wars and resorting to boosting.

Personally, I hate that I can go into a soul wars minigame and people start threatening my real life status, calling me by my real name and saying racist things without consequence. We're all in our 20s and 30s playing a 21 year old point-and-click minigame. It's time to grow up.

This is also a reminder that we all, at one point, we were all working together against the one main sabotaging clan, Dismantle, who was ruining soul wars games since soul wars was released and that they are the reason soul wars is in the state it is now. (Green portal, all worlds, etc)

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^ I've also been temporarily muted along with a few others in here because our egos got the best of us and games have been heated. There are ways to promote true competitive spirit without being rude, threatening to each other and getting personal.

errant jolt
latent dune
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Inb4 they harass me in game saying Jagex won't do anything to them and call me a fat ape and imitate a monkey poking fun at me because I'm a person of color

errant jolt
latent dune
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It happens within the minigame when they come to harass us because they don't like the way we play soul wars

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So yes it is a minigame issue

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Idk how many times I've been told to kill myself because I outplayed them at the minigame and their egos are hurt

errant jolt
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It's an unfortunate aspect of anything even slightly competitive though just look at Castle Wars or PKing, you can only manage it

latent dune
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Yeah but it's disruptive game play and affects the motivation of players coming back to play it.. funny thing is that they are killing the minigame with their toxicity and negativity towards other players

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Making it all one world as the OP is suggesting will just cause everyone to be forced into playing on one world and have to deal with the arrogant, disgusting behavior of egotistical players who can't handle that others are playing the game the way they want and not up to their standards

errant jolt
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I do agree it's better the way it is now and that is a good point. I think that the solution is to limit rank gaining so boosters don't muddy the waters.

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Like I don't care about rank

latent dune
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Neither do I

cerulean dawn
# latent dune I'm all for competitive 1-3 world Soul wars as long as there is something done a...

The reason I mentioned w320 is because all the other soul wars worlds are empty but I would go for the 3 soul wars worlds . So for you having problems with players being toxic best thing to do is just keep reporting them until jagex takes notice . Its something that seems to go along with all online games. I have been called every name in the book and more but I just laugh it off and do not take it seriously or personally .My response to them if any is ty or ty for the compliment and that usually ends it . If not I just put them on ignore . I think of it like this if the are cussing at me or what ever I must be doing pretty good fighting them to give me that kind of reaction .

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As for dismantle i was one of there top targets and was chased around all the time by 4 or 5 of them . They would go out of the way to get me . But i adapted and still did good .

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all the time

latent dune
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That's good for you but there are different players who have different reactions to things said to them in game and they take it seriously, especially when it gets personal and relates to real life. I've been playing soul wars with friends since it was re-released and almost 90% of my friends quit because of disruptive players ruining the minigame on world 320 with sabotaging games or real life threats. Along with making it one world they need to restrict public chat with a spam filter (similar to GE) which would benefit the incident response team at Jagex with finding the rule breakers who are abusing public chat, or by making the minigame quick chat only with hot keys enabled only at soul wars, in my opinion

cerulean dawn
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Since dismantle is not around soul wars has been a lot better . There are still some toxic players but not as bad . Best thing try not to take it personally . A lot of them try to get you fired up to get a response .

jade folio
latent dune
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Yeah it doesn't work when idiots bring alts and continue the harassment though

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also adding them to the ignore list makes it easier for the rules breakers to break rules without me reporting them too

velvet ravine
tacit blade
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Acting like you’ve never said anything racist or harassed anyone in this thread lol, cringe

latent dune
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and if you didn't read (or if you can even read, cyclops), I said I was already muted in game. Go ahead and change your name to Beatrice to hide, you coward.