game-update

[sharp cave]

Jagex do not care abour players

[restive storm]

Definitely have noticed a lot of “how can I get into PvP” in the pking channel, and it’s people with like 53 def and like mid 60s rest of stats

[dire mango]

Companies are going to be greedy until the greed doesn't pay anymore. Some friction is to be expected from a price hike announcement, but unless enough people actually stop paying it'll continue.

[restive storm]

And it’s tough to tell them you got 1: a longgg way to go or 2: remake

[ashen yarrow]

majority of osrs playerbase is still only playing 1 account, they would riot if they dont get 1 character option at same or cheaper price to current if they add multi character membership

[brisk hill]

140 hours for KO potential is quite the barrier of entry before even talking about skill lvl, activity, etc…

[sharp cave]

I think best case we can hope for is some sort of discount for multi subs

Perhaps a second sub at yesterday's rate

[hard axle]

I feel like this is just extremely favored towards players, while cutting off at least 10% of existing playerbase to justify a 33-50% increase.

[true talon]

Price doesn’t need to increase it was just an example trade off, get more engagement for the same price and lose the benefit of alt revenue.

[hard axle]

like, it could work

[true talon]

I would for one play more if I could login another acc without having to pay. I don’t bond my alts and let them sit because I don’t feel value from it.

[tough nacelle]

We know they’re trying to hit a 3x revenue to valuation

[brisk hill]

Idk how ppl play this game without an alt lol

[tough nacelle]

Then jagex will be resold

Mod north will quit / be fired by the new PE that buys jagex

[austere mulch]

Got burnt from alting years ago. Find it more enjoyable now to just play on the one 90% of the time

[tough nacelle]

And it’ll rinse and repeat until the game dies due to 40 dollar sub fees

[true talon]

That’s very doomer of you lol

[tough nacelle]

Pretending PE doesn’t do this with everything it touches is fantasy land

Buy, milk, resell, profit

[ashen yarrow]

same, more fun focusing on iron and then just bonding main if i need it for something. havent even re-maxed main

[tough nacelle]

Who cares if company is sustainable

[true talon]

Yep I should be training my main for awakened and stuff but I cba bonding it when I hardly play atm lol.

[obsidian venture]

It’s more afk tbh

Was gonna make one finally for pet grinds

[brisk hill]

For some reason having 2-3 accs going at once makes things feel more afk, even though, obviously they aren’t

[obsidian venture]

Fair

[austere mulch]

Some things are genuinely more afk to alt like gwd, but still couldn’t be bothered these days lol

[civic tundra]

Quick question, so I got a 1 yr subscription like 3 weeks ago, will I be recharged or only once my subscription ends? The blog confused me

[austere mulch]

I’ll throw on a coxie stream every now and then and see him doing 1+7 gwd and see his screen filled up with RuneScape instances

[tough nacelle]

Only when it ends

[teal hinge]

Your price will not be changing if you are actively on a Grandfathered rate monthly subscription (any subscription started, sustained and in active use from before September 27 2024).

[civic tundra]

Ty

[chrome lantern]

That doesn't apply to him

[austere mulch]

Never got that far myself, most I ever would do is 1+3 stuff but even the thought of it just makes me want to turn my pc off lmao

[chrome lantern]

Since that's an annual not a monthly

[obsidian venture]

I’m thankful that the game is basically free for me 🫡

[chrome lantern]

But no it will not rebill until it's near the end

[obsidian venture]

Feelsbad for others

[restive storm]

Having four accounts going when I was baiting in revs definitely made my head wanna explode cannot recommend

[obsidian venture]

Saw Westham do that

[hard axle]

1+1 is fine 99% of the time

[obsidian venture]

Looked ass

[hard axle]

1+2 is same as solo, but just 2 xfer

[rapid badger]

we must be getting membership for all accounts on the launcher then, right?...... right???? i think wow is same price for 60 characters if google didnt lie to me

[brisk hill]

Sounds like you’d go cross eyed in a multi war with 4 accs

(I do too)

[obsidian venture]

That’s why he squints

[restive storm]

It is which is hilarious, next price increase they’re gonna ask you to pay more than the most played mmo of all time

[rapid badger]

what are we doing

ive played this game all my life, i know when im getting scammed

decline the trade boys

[restive storm]

Released the cow boss, only so they could milk their subs, the irony is not lost on me

[jagged marsh]

How many people do you think are cancelling because they don't know about grandfather pricing

[brisk hill]

It is actually really funny to think about how they just gave everyone a free pet & then raised membership

[obsidian venture]

Honestly… respect 😂😂

Get the beef pet to only start beef with price raises

Jagex planned tf outta this 😭

[mighty niche]

Epic also announced v-buck prices increases for Fortnite today, immediately cancelled my sub for that game. I'll hold onto my OSRS sub for now, since I only just came back this week, but this sucks.

[tough nacelle]

I’m just not doing annual subs anymore

[brisk hill]

Bro yeah insane dopamine for noobs who are nowhere near close to actually grinding pets

[tough nacelle]

It’s not worth it

I’ll sub a few months a year instead

[brisk hill]

Gz membership price hike

[rapid badger]

pkers tend to have multiple accounts too, why does jagex hate pkers

[mighty niche]

Yeah I never play this game for a year consistently, it's not worth. The removal of 3-month and 6-month subs sucks.

[tough nacelle]

It’ll end up costing me less too

[brisk hill]

If you just follow the trend of PvP updates (the lack thereof) you can answer this yourself

[dire mango]

need to grease us up with the beef pet before force-feeding us the bull milk

[tough nacelle]

These last two price increases have shown where they plan to take it

[austere mulch]

They should’ve held off on the increase until one of the two actual content updates we get this year tbh

[restive storm]

We are the oppressed class of the game

[mighty niche]

PKers deserve less, frankly.

[austere mulch]

It’d still land poorly but it’d be much better received overall if it came alongside BMR or raid 4

[rapid badger]

i only hate ironmen pesonally

[tough nacelle]

Pump that revenue up, sell game

[brisk hill]

One day jaggy will realize we are the easiest crowd to please

Surely one day

[mighty niche]

Unfortunately this is what was always gonna happen now that the game is owned by private equity.

[brisk hill]

Do you guys wanna throw in 5 each & maybe buy the game

[rapid badger]

l0000l

[brisk hill]

I’m down

I got 5.

[obsidian venture]

Got 5

[rapid badger]

honestly though just offer us 5 accounts max per launcher under 1 membership and raise it a few more bucks

stop jamming us up

[obsidian venture]

That’d go so hard

[brisk hill]

I’d pay like $25/month for multiple accs

I think that’s my limit though idk

[obsidian venture]

Ye

[rapid badger]

id go like 20 for ppl that only play 2 max

[austere mulch]

I’d pay for that and still only play one acc lmao. Would be a nice to have in case I wanted to play another later

[rapid badger]

that way they arent extra jammed up, or 22

[brisk hill]

$25 is like paying for 2 with old rates + 1 free

[obsidian venture]

🫣

[rapid badger]

whens the next inferno? so i can finish first for the lifetime membership, or 36years whatever they gave woox

[tough nacelle]

I’m already at almost 20 a month with country currency LOL

[brisk hill]

Do you think if woox cancels his lifetime is canceled too lol

Do you think he can transfer it lol

This game so funny to me

[jagged marsh]

It's like starting a war isn't good for the global economy

[austere mulch]

If they ever do give us an unlockable second ring slot, I’d hope it comes from a new inferno like content that sets a new bar for pvm like inferno did in 2017

[obsidian venture]

Just gatekeep some stuff

It’s ok

[mighty niche]

Shocker /s

[obsidian venture]

Not everyone needs to access bis all the time. It’s ok to put in some effort

Hope new bis mage is a good challenge

2nd ring slot should be from something “aspirational”

So Billybobs cannot just ge it or kill a slayer mob for it

[brisk hill]

How will I ever make progress then if I only have 45 mins a week to play pls just give it to my iron pls jaggy

[obsidian venture]

Oh my roddd

To those people, the upgrades wouldn’t impact their gameplay as much

And that’s ok

[austere mulch]

But where’s my participation trophy

I killed Brutus 16 times

[brisk hill]

It’s the helm next to your name

Gz beast

[obsidian venture]

In your head! As SpongeBob once said

https://tenor.com/view/rainbow-spongebob-imagination-gif-11877335675029242228

[mighty niche]

500 kc and still no pet

[obsidian venture]

Not on rate keep sending

[blissful topaz]

membership prices increased? F2P players eating good today

[obsidian venture]

Not really

[blissful topaz]

kyriakos_smile.gif

[obsidian venture]

F2P still has access to scraps

[blissful topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/cope-harder-cope-sir-cope-sir-american-psycho-gif-26276799

[obsidian venture]

Beggars happy being beggars 😭

Finally a win!

[mighty niche]

I mean, it's only another dollar which isn't a huge increase but that's not the point. As I've said elsewhere I think the bigger kick in the nuts is the removal of 3-month and 6-month memberships. Lots of people aren't playing this game consistently for a year, but now they have no choice but to pay the most expensive rates when they do want to play which sucks.

[finite tapir]

amusingly this makes the rs3 membership better quality

if you play for 8 individual days or less per month it's more worth to pay £1 for a day of membership via the rs3 mobile app

[vivid ruin]

I dont think membership/bond increase is a W for f2p

Call me crazy

[signal kernel]

I'm still on the grandfathered 6 month membership luckily! Didn't even know they were changing things

[drifting valley]

Jagex says get your money up n shutup

And people will

Cuz they addicted

And they know it

Its genius on their end

And for ppl who need to maintain a bond with the price increase using in game gp...and may not be too deep into pvm...just do coral farming

Its like 300k to 400k from just the 2 coral patches

[vagrant delta]

Buy gold and buy bonds. Pay Venezuela instead of jamflex for membership

[ashen yarrow]

fun fact bonds ingame will probably increase more in % gp than bonds in real money

[somber marsh]

ITT - broke MFs

[acoustic robin]

Getting the vague inkling that this sudden price increase is intentionally being done ahead of leagues next month to catch anyone either subbing an alt account, or folks that sub just for leagues.

[ashen yarrow]

extra $1 per account in that case the big increase in price was annual subscription deal which had discount almost halved

[gaunt minnow]

This gets you perm banned almost instantly btw

Definitely not recommended

[gaunt minnow]

Also a good way to cover things up if they start posting leagues leaks immediately

People will forget about the price increase pretty quickly

[drifting valley]

Coral farming bro best and easiest way to maintain a bond and not even play much

Just go on mobile couple times a day or more if u can

And you can make so much at the end of the month

People laugh but it works

[obsidian venture]

https://tenor.com/view/lil-yachty-drake-gif-21712801

[drifting valley]

And obv this is for a person who dosent play much and who isnt pvming (maybe going for max and skilling)

[gaunt minnow]

Ye once you get to pvm especially regular raiding you just get shit tonnes of gp

[drifting valley]

But even if u are pvming its still great of you are busy for the week..you can log your char at the coral patches

And login on mobile

Spend what 2 mins

Gain the free bag

And alot of people dont have a 10b bank even in todays time so making money from anything is a w

And i use 10b as an example cuz thats how much you need to have all pvm items + 1b in cash for future content items/supps/etc

As of rn anyway

[gaunt minnow]

Kinda surprising that bonds are still only 16m

Think they’ve been floating at 15m for like 2-3 years now

I expected them to be 20+ by now

[drifting valley]

What i find more funny is all the people complaining who claim to have a 10b+ bank

Seems to me they dont have 10b

[gaunt minnow]

Tbh most of the complaining I’ve seen has been more casual players

Which is kinda valid

I’m at 18b ish across my iron and main so havnt paid irl for this game in years

[restive storm]

Didn’t get rich by throwing away gp

[vivid lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/speak-gif-9578947274896178319

[drifting valley]

Bro either you dont have 10b bank or you arent serious about bond prices if you do have 15b

It makes no sense

[gaunt minnow]

Could just be rich irl

[restive storm]

I do absolutely have way over a 10b bank 😂

[drifting valley]

Why is he complaining then lol

[gaunt minnow]

In which case there should be no complaining

Haha

[drifting valley]

Exactly lol

[obsidian venture]

I throw away gp 🙁

[restive storm]

Why would I be happy about throwing away more go for the same thing I could buy cheaper yesterday?

[obsidian venture]

I mean regardless of bank folks can feel upset at this

[gaunt minnow]

I was making Reddit posts for like 2 years about buying bonds

Because it’s only gonna get more expensive

[drifting valley]

This dude showed a pic of a 420m loot bag from a utube vid i seen a few days ago

Hes 100% trolling

[gaunt minnow]

They were 6m like 5 years ago

[obsidian venture]

Nah he pks lmao

[gaunt minnow]

Shoulda stocked up

[obsidian venture]

He gets quite a bit

[drifting valley]

Oh im sure he does but im sure that pic is from the utube vid i seen

That isnt him

[autumn holly]

Guess with this update on members prices don’t go from paying monthly to yearly. Been a member and paying for it on an account I’ve had since 2002. Last year switched to yearly and now no longer grandfather in is just saddd

[restive storm]

https://youtu.be/d86lrvYSwyw?si=Ok1wxgolPJt7s2Pp here’s my video from before I started bridging…. And no that loot pic you’ve seen has not been from a YouTube video because that was also mine lol

Got a lot more where it came from too

[balmy star]

Yep, I just received an email stating that my annual subscription will "change" (nice word for increase btw) from €89.88 to €119.88 lol.

€30 increase 😂

[hazy plover]

So with these price increases they can handle doing project zanaris now right?

[obsidian venture]

No

That’s just scrapped af

[oblique mesa]

you mean the thing that reddit threw a tantrum over and demanded they cancel?

[hazy plover]

I didn't see anyone saying that 😭

[drifting valley]

Thats cool dude, but if thats the case bonds should be the least of your worries

Its really not that big of a price increase lol

[autumn holly]

Yeah I got the same I guess I should have just kept my monthly subscription rather than doing a yearly subscription. IMO they just penalized people for switching to buy yearly again bad business model you want people doing yearly.

[obsidian venture]

The point he’s making is, why pay more for the same thing

Not that he can’t afford it

Like what is the reason this is going up, because content wise, they haven’t done shit

[restive storm]

It is the least of my worries, the biggest of my worries is that has abandoned PvP. But yeah what bane said, paying more while simultaneously being underserved is a sucky feeling lol

[gaunt minnow]

When was the last pvp update other than dmm

Pretty sure we’ve had 3 price increases before a single pvp update

[obsidian venture]

Idt that’s even an update

Just a seasonal thing

[drifting valley]

Because he will pay more and jagex knows they can take advantage of it

[obsidian venture]

The last “talking point” however was a blog about expanding

[gaunt minnow]

Just add multi revs back and I’ll be happy with the price increase

Genuinely worth atp

[restive storm]

My unsubbed accounts beg to differ 😂

[drifting valley]

Yall complaining ant gona change their minds if yall keep paying for membership

[oblique mesa]

They adjusted the reclaim price of Arkan Blade

[restive storm]

Thank goodness ess blizzard put out tbc so we have something to play

[drifting valley]

U were paying with real cash?

[calm belfry]

i cancelled my main. they got $1 off my iron but lost $15 off my main heh

[tiny otter]

god if pvpers could be priced out thatd be great

[drifting valley]

Does this mean you will start paying with in game gp instead?

[calm belfry]

now its like theyre paying me to play

[frozen lion]

41% increase LULE

[restive storm]

No bonds

[balmy star]

Exactly, old 1-year subscriptions are increased by 33.38% (in euros) for the same thing. To me it sounds like "We removed MTX from RS3!! we're missing out on money so let's increase subscription prices across both games"

[obsidian venture]

But it’s fun killing irons!

The reactions are hilarious

[drifting valley]

If u were paying with bonds meaning using in game gp then how could unsub i dont get it

[obsidian venture]

It is absurd tbf

[restive storm]

By not buying more bonds? Like huh?

[obsidian venture]

I’m ngl with a name like sailing passed hahaha, I would hope you see their pov

[restive storm]

These accounts have been unsubbed for like a month or two btw, but it isn’t like this makes me more likely to sub again lmao

[frozen lion]

Only 34%, lucky you

[drifting valley]

Unsubbing means u end your subsciption from their website...(where you use real money to purchase memebership) or am i wrong here?

[restive storm]

Idk I view unsubbing as just not having a sub anymore via any means

[drifting valley]

Okay so ur saying u gona be f2p?

[frozen lion]

Any riots in Falador yet?

[balmy star]

Allright, just canceled yearly subscription

[obsidian venture]

Ofc

[drifting valley]

With a 16b bank

Lmao

[restive storm]

Yes my accounts are f2p and haven’t been logged in in ages man lol

[obsidian venture]

People been there

[restive storm]

There’s no content to do rn

[jagged marsh]

The people funding accounts with bonds do not need to worry about the GP. The people who buy bonds with real money for membs instead of a subscription are dumb.

[frozen lion]

Brutus

[gaunt minnow]

Surely there’s no one buying bonds for membership

That’s literally throwing away money

[frozen lion]

Good, we can use their irl wallets for some spare change in bank

[somber marsh]

RuneScape should be free!!!!! Oh wait it already is!!

[gaunt minnow]

These increased in costs aren’t paying for the devs!!!!!

[drifting valley]

But u will "re sub" after even with this increase so jagex does win anyway

[gaunt minnow]

Are you guys thick or something

[jagged marsh]

Fuck you mean Repoll Sailing dude

[gaunt minnow]

These increase in costs are going to the investors

Not the devs

[tacit wharf]

u do understand he's baiting you and others, thats what he does 90% of the time in here

[frozen lion]

Not most expensive, but hella expensive compared to past vs other mmos on market

[restive storm]

Maybe, depends if they actually make good content cuz they haven’t been the last few years lol

[jagged marsh]

Please explain to the class how you would remove Sailing from the game

[gaunt minnow]

If they fire more devs that’s also just going to investors

[obsidian venture]

They aren’t going to repoll sailing 😂

[jagged marsh]

Moron

[restive storm]

How am I baiting in any way? Lol

[gaunt minnow]

Do you guys understand how businesses work???

[restive storm]

I’m just explaining why I unsubbed

[gaunt minnow]

At all?

[frozen lion]

But idk what im paying for, I have unanswered appeal for my alt for like 2 weeks almost

[drifting valley]

But u got alot of content to do if you are a iron

[frozen lion]

#improvedsupport LULE

[restive storm]

But I’m not an iron…

[jagged marsh]

Well if you do resub down the line, you will get bit by the increased prices that you are protesting.

Just so you know

[gaunt minnow]

When they take money from devs they don’t give it to other devs they just give more profit to investors

[oblique mesa]

Sorry then you only get a lot of world hops

[gaunt minnow]

Firing devs is only a net negative for everyone other than the investment company

[drifting valley]

Ohhhh ok then i get it lol

[restive storm]

Right but if I’m buying bonds then what do I care?

[obsidian venture]

He’s saying that he won’t. Are you reading the same thing or what

[jagged marsh]

But that's more expensive...?

I'm failing to see the vision here

[restive storm]

I guess I could buy bonds today and just sit with them in my bank if I actually cared to save like 20m? But seems like a waste of my time

[drifting valley]

Nah he will re sub...when they release new content...u rly think hes quitting for good cuz bonds went up 1m lol

Cmon bro

[gaunt minnow]

Sounds like you’re not rich enough

[obsidian venture]

He’s not 😂

[restive storm]

I quit due to a lack of updates not bond prices lol

[jagged marsh]

You could just keep your existing sub and grandfathered price.

But I don't think you're quitting

[frozen lion]

He can buy bonds off main and use on his iron

[jagged marsh]

I don't see that in you

[restive storm]

Brother man I’m buying bonds with ingame gp what are you talkin about

[drifting valley]

Lol

Godfather is funny af

[white sand]

All hail our Greedy Chinese Overlords

[frozen lion]

Ye these chatters are something else

[obsidian venture]

Yes when they release content or update pvp he can re sub

[obsidian venture]

Reading is at a low rn

[restive storm]

Yeah if they’d update pvp I’d def come back if it’s good, but they haven’t in like the last two years so just decided game wasn’t worth it exactly

[jagged marsh]

So if youre quitting because you dont like the updates, is that really quitting

[drifting valley]

Yeah thats what i mean, bond prices ant effecting him at all, he will play regardless...infact hes not playing cuz of a whole other reason

[restive storm]

….yes? I don’t see what you’re tryina say here man

[frozen lion]

If he quits then he quits, yes

[jagged marsh]

Yeah

[frozen lion]

@jagged marsh what are you on dude

[obsidian venture]

He’s not quitting, he’s not bonding alts

[frozen lion]

Anyway Im "happy" to pay 41% more

[obsidian venture]

Or the main if no content

[frozen lion]

Glad they gave us info beforehand

About price change

[drifting valley]

The bonds prices are only affecting people who have a 14$ budget per month...so 15$ is out of the question unless they switch to a cheaper tuna brand for their food.

Thats all ima say

[obsidian venture]

[drifting valley]

Lol

[dusk shore]

Im sure Sailing passed hahaha is a thriving member of the osrs

[jagged marsh]

People who are bonding alts can afford it in surplus anyways, let's not act like this price increase is suddenly this massive deterrent for them lol

[obsidian venture]

Yes but that’s not the issue

[frozen lion]

Sailing is good

[restive storm]

Have I ever said it was?

[obsidian venture]

And he’s said it several times

[drifting valley]

Yes i just buy bonds in game and thats it lmao...do your coral runs and u good on bonds

[jagged marsh]

Ok so he's just yapping and I don't care about his problems

[drifting valley]

Lol

[restive storm]

I’ve stated the reason why like five times lol, I just said that upping the price doesn’t really make me wanna come back anymore. It’s like an insult kinda due to how bad updates have been that in my head jagex thinks they deserve more money for doing a bad job

[drifting valley]

Squintzz is the only person ik who will complain about bonds going up 1m with a 15b bank

Unless someone else wana join him lol

[jagged marsh]

Nothing about this affects me in any meaningful way and it's funny to see people whine about it

[obsidian venture]

😭

The point is severely being missed but not too surprising

[restive storm]

https://tenor.com/view/dono-wall-gif-24048347

We tried bane idk

[jagged marsh]

Because no one really gives a shit tbh

[drifting valley]

The point is jagex is making more money from all of u and you will keep paying them money

Nobody here is gona quit cuz of this

[jagged marsh]

Not from me

[drifting valley]

Lets be honest

[tiny otter]

regardless of price, now being a higher cost than wow, something that hasnt increased it's monthly sub in 20years is a wild pov

[restive storm]

Well I’M not but yall are, so go off king

[jagged marsh]

I'm paying the same amount

11bux

Usd

[drifting valley]

U will still buy bonds in game in the future even if they go up to 20m ea

Lets not pretend

[restive storm]

This is what really hit me lmao esp when wow hasn’t increased price since like 2005 or whatever which is kinda nuts in comparison

[drifting valley]

U ant quitting

You just bored atm

And taking a break

[jagged marsh]

WoW also charges like $30 for expansions

[drifting valley]

U will be back

[jagged marsh]

Tbf

[restive storm]

Less than 1 osrs alt

[jagged marsh]

Their business model is different

[restive storm]

Plus classic ones are free now too anyway

Which is kinda nice

[tiny otter]

you dont want a comparison fight with wow, runescape will lose

[jagged marsh]

Just saying they make way more money off of other stuff, not just wow

Yeah RuneScape would get nodiffed

Jagex just doesn't have the portfolio

[tiny otter]

Jagex would need to make a real effort on multiuse accounts

[drifting valley]

Jagex could have made the price 20 dollars a bond and they still would have yall keep playing like good little addicted's

Lol

[tiny otter]

to keep this

[gaunt minnow]

Yeah but then you have to play wow

[jagged marsh]

I'm not gonna play wow though

[obsidian venture]

Bonds prices do not affect us but it’s disheartening to see prices go up with a lack of updates

If you need me to rephrase it or use simpler words let me know

[gaunt minnow]

Who get one update every 4 years

We get weekly content

[restive storm]

I mean wow alone excluding all other blizzzard stuff dwarfs jagex as a whole lol

[drifting valley]

You are 100% Right and i agree with this...BUT people will still play anyway lol

[gaunt minnow]

Woooow a new raid released with slightly tweaked mechanics and increased number on gear

Amazing content thanks blizzard

🥱

There’s a reason wow is dying and osrs is growing

[restive storm]

slaps the top of my sailboat you can fit so many sailing xp in this bad boy

[obsidian venture]

Maybe .5 at most

[gaunt minnow]

Bro I’m a hall of famer

Look up my character if you want

[drifting valley]

Coral farming is the answer to this bond increase if u arent pvming

Tellin ya

[restive storm]

While this is definitely true and has been for many years, it still doesn’t make the two games relatively close in quality lol

Nor sub count

[gaunt minnow]

Hall of fame in wow is easier than low level inferno change my mind

[drifting valley]

They probably increased the price of bonds DUE to coral farming even

Now this is a consp take

But im taking it

[gaunt minnow]

By low level inferno I mean 2 hour PBs

Not actual low combat level

[drifting valley]

In 3 to 5 years bond prices will go up again

So strap up for that day

[tiny otter]

years?

months, bud

[drifting valley]

Lol

Ngl i dont deny

[gaunt minnow]

Pls up the bond prices

I want more gp

[drifting valley]

I wana see that good ol 20 dollar bond price

[restive storm]

Why wouldn’t you just buy more bonds?

In this scenario

[drifting valley]

Sounds like money to their ears i bet

[gaunt minnow]

Youre misunderstanding

[obsidian venture]

If Jagex spent less time on shit temp modes and on actual updates or qol changes, people would be less upset.

If they added an actual customer support system that’s not ai, folks would also be not as upset

[gaunt minnow]

I have about 400 bonds most of them I bought at 6.6m

[restive storm]

Ahhhhhhh that makes sense then

[gaunt minnow]

The update today made me 500m on just the bonds I bought Friday

[visual heath]

Down with Gagec

Down with Gagec

[tough nacelle]

This is the thing. 65% price increase in 1.5 years is insane vs the content that’s come out

In what world are we getting even close to that in actual/ perceived value

[drifting valley]

I support jagex in this bond increase cuz i feel that coral farming was too rewarding

(This is ragebait)

[gaunt minnow]

I’m still yet to try coral farming

[autumn holly]

I’d also say let that price work for however many accounts and cap it. I can say I will drop either my iron or main sub now.

[gaunt minnow]

I’m hoping once sailing is more fleshed out I’ll go back and try all the stuff I missed on the wha to 99

[drifting valley]

300k to 400k gp and u spend 2 mins of ur time...i do em on mobile..easiest bond upkeep ever

[gaunt minnow]

Ye that’s pretty crazy

Seems like way less effort than a farm run too

Or birdhouse run which is less than 400k

[drifting valley]

Its on avg 75k more gp than a herb and birdhouse run combined

And both coral patches are like 3 squares away from each other

[gaunt minnow]

Wth

[drifting valley]

Yup

Last coral harvest i made 360k

Then logged off same spot

Its so free lmao

Boutta log in again in an hr to claim another free bag

[gaunt minnow]

I’m wondering if they’ll come out with a statement to the update backlash

[drifting valley]

They will

And it will just say stfu and do coral farming you peasants

Have a nice day, osrs team

Lol atleast thats what they thinking

1 dollar at a time to a 20 dollar bond...thats their dream

[wintry hatch]

Kind of tired of account support/security being brought up as a reason behind price changes. Where tf are the changes from 5 years ago????

Or the changes from two summits ago

Or any customer support

[quaint oar]

Sir. They added an AI bot. Pls understand

[wintry hatch]

Stop using this as a reason for justification when none of the changes have ever came through

[drifting valley]

Lmao i think hes just meming the corporate scum reply

[green granite]

Honestly

Price change discussion, I'm obviously upset by this change but I've always kind of known in my heart that it was coming lol, but also I'm like, this is the last time if it goes up any more than this then we have an actual problem

[brisk surge]

$30 a month, membership access for all accounts in my jagex account, limit me to only multilog on 2.

I really hope they do something like that in the future. So many people would make irons/snowflake alts

[drifting valley]

We pay we say...we pay more...we stay... this is the osrs community in a nutshell...thats why they keep increasing prices and know they can get away with it...please wake up and smell the coral guys.

[gaunt minnow]

I like that but they’ll lose a lot of money on people who already pay for multiple accounts so it’s probably not worth it from a business perspective

[restive storm]

Just quit

[drifting valley]

You cant

You can only take breaks

And if u really do quit then..
Umm then!!!! Uhhj uh... u wontttt

[restive storm]

Oh you can, most of my friends have 😭 I miss them

[tough nacelle]

Imagine making promises

[restive storm]

Just want game updates so they might come back pls

[tough nacelle]

Failing to deliver them then upping prices again

[quaint oar]

I mean at this point I'm paying 21aud. The fact we still don't have access to Jagex accounts being tied to one membership is becoming quite a shit show.

[tough nacelle]

And then claim “it’s to do the thing we promised last time”

Trust us bro

[drifting valley]

Brother we are addicted. They tell u they quit but they are on right now...they cant get enough

They are literally woodcutting rn

[tough nacelle]

Some people will stay

It’s basically a trade off how many quit vs stay

[restive storm]

I mean I know you’re trolling but they most definitely have not been on

[tough nacelle]

To offset the new price

[quaint oar]

I mean I'll stay. But that's cause I can find membership cheaper

[tough nacelle]

My membership expires soon once it’s done I’m not rebuying an annual subscription

[quaint oar]

I'd rather be paying $16aud not 21 but alas

[restive storm]

They all arc raiders now 😭

[tough nacelle]

I’ll just sub for one month around content releases

[drifting valley]

Yeah maybe they really did quit... AHAHAHAHAHHAHAYEAHHHNWOOO QUIT AHAHAHSH !!!!! OMG

[tough nacelle]

F this shit

[restive storm]

❓

[brisk surge]

Well they lost a lot of money from me. Used to have 3 member accounts, dropped 1 last price hike, dropped the other today. Alts are just not worth it at these prices

[drifting valley]

Im memeing

[tough nacelle]

“Biggest winter summit ever”

One quest,

A raid

🤯🤯🤯

[restive storm]

The quest they told us about last summit*

[gaunt minnow]

Agreed tbh

I have an alt I use for scouting Wildy but atp I’ll just skip any Wildy content left

It’s very expensive to upkeep an alt now

[tough nacelle]

You don’t get it!!! They must raise prices by 70% to specifically repost that same picture

[brisk surge]

Maybe its more profitable for them to just milk some people who have alts, but if enough are dropping maybe not. I hope they consider things like what I suggested

[restive storm]

Oh trust me I get it!

[tough nacelle]

It’s such an expensive photo

Don’t worry the boss will be super broken and untested on release so you can be a beta tester

Because jagex knows how much fun we have doing that

[restive storm]

We also now have like 17 CMs and there’s never been less communication with the players lol

[drifting valley]

It does suck having to pay more in either real cash or in game gp but the thing is raids 4 will make everyone pay this new premium..

[tough nacelle]

And guess what?! For that luxury we have removed the option to pay monthly and removed the discount for annual subscriptions

[drifting valley]

And we will pay

I will pay

[tough nacelle]

Pay annually is your only choice!

[drifting valley]

Ill pay 30 dollars if i have to

[tough nacelle]

Yeah we all will pay but for how long

I used to buy entire year subs

[gaunt minnow]

Agreed everyone will pay so that’s just how it is

[tough nacelle]

Now will I just pay monthly? For 2-3 months?

[drifting valley]

Untill you get fired from your job or end up in prison

[tough nacelle]

I havnt been unsubbed in 5 years

[tough nacelle]

Nah it’s not about the money per say

It’s a matter of principle

[drifting valley]

Im a numbers guy kaaai

Pbd

[tough nacelle]

I’m not playing all the time but the goodwill was there

They deleted all goodwill

[restive storm]

As a pker I been feelin this for years

Welcome 2 the club

[drifting valley]

I bet people will still pay even if they told us to fuck off in the blog

[tough nacelle]

So now when blood moon rises is super buggy , raids 4 comes out with doodoo rewards and PvP is ignored again

The community is gonna flip even more

[drifting valley]

But im open to being wrong lol

[robust wyvern]

I thought they were tryna stop rwt not promote it

[tough nacelle]

Some will pay

[gaunt minnow]

I’m sure mod mat k said once that these people cancelling are not a concern for jagex. They’ve increased everyone’s membership costs by 50% and only <1% of people cancel their membership so they’re still winning by a long shot

[tough nacelle]

It’s what % will stay to offset

[tough nacelle]

This is it. What’s the breaking point

[drifting valley]

Im pretty sure when raids 4 comes out people will forget all about this bond stuff..hell even the blood moon boss coming soon

Tmrw is a new day

Ppl will unub for a month or two prob

They will be back though

[gaunt minnow]

You can thumbs down me but it’s frustratingly true. I can’t remember what the last big scandal was where everyone was saying they were unsubbing

[drifting valley]

They all will...MUAHHAH

[gaunt minnow]

But it was literally less than 0.1% of players who actually did unsub

[drifting valley]

And that 0.1%? Will re sub for leagues

Afufufufuf

[gaunt minnow]

Most people l are addicted and they’re gonna play no matter what

That’s just the fact of the matter

[robust wyvern]

Most people are poor*

[drifting valley]

They can spit in my face irl and ill come back

Ill be angry...for a week

But ill be back

[robust wyvern]

The true addicts have enough gp to bond 10 accounts with gp for eternity

[drifting valley]

Yup

[restive storm]

I think it’s largely just ones who they’ve disenfranchised so much that most quit, which honestly I’m not even convinced wasn’t their intention

The rest of the pvm Andy’s will always be back

[drifting valley]

Sqyintzz has 5b more gp than me and he also will be re subbing lol

And im subbed still!!

[restive storm]

I mean if you want to have to login every two hours to pay off a bond he my guest I cba right now lol

[vivid lodge]

werid flex

[restive storm]

I’ll just go skulltrick little Timmy who just bought his torva with bonds at the enclave and pay off my own bonds when I decide to come back

[drifting valley]

Only twice a day but u can do more if u wana make more

Sometimes i do more sometimes not

[robust wyvern]

Login? I thought people just scam for their money these days. Why play when u can create an elaborate scheme

[drifting valley]

Ur server tag says "bigd" i cant be flexing harder than u homie

But ty for letting us know

[restive storm]

Just pretend to be a gods word on the ground and make more gp than doing anything else in the game anyway

[hasty shard]

they'll make each update a paid expansion and people will still bootlick

[drifting valley]

Id like the new raid to cost a bond to unlock

Now thats hot

[restive storm]

I wish I coulda opted out of varlamore icl

[robust wyvern]

They’ll make osrs premium for 100 bucks a month at this rate where if u don’t buy it, you get an ad mid zuk fight

[vivid lodge]

dont miss your 300k every hour

[drifting valley]

I wont and i probably have more than u anyway

And if i dont then we are both addicted

So either way you cant win

Moof is typing...

[vivid lodge]

you've missed out on like 300k-600k with all these messages fam

[drifting valley]

Brother i have to get a dragon rank

I have to type

[gaunt minnow]

Tru! Stop slacking bro

[vivid lodge]

[restive storm]

Wouldn’t doing coral farming require you to sail to an island or something?

[drifting valley]

No

[vivid lodge]

-300k

[drifting valley]

Fairy ring

And run there

Its like varrock square to ge distance

But u can.logout there once u there

[restive storm]

As much as I hate sailing by I’m impressed by how unimportant they immediately made it into the game

[gaunt minnow]

Oh shit there’s a fairy ring to get right there?

[drifting valley]

U still need to do the quest to unlock the coral btw

[gaunt minnow]

I thought I had to actually sail!!!

[drifting valley]

Which requires sailing

So nice try

Hehehehehehehhe

[restive storm]

I’m 99 sailing on both my pure and main but thankfully haven’t been on a boat since

[drifting valley]

Well past 99 us mains dont need to sail i do agree there...but that can and will change

Just gotta wait

[restive storm]

Hopefully not cuz that skull is awful

[drifting valley]

I enjoyed getting to 99 tbh..and i really do mean it when i say it was the most fun i had training a skill

[restive storm]

Just make whatever rewards buyable if they wanted to go that route

I just afked for like 2 weeks without moving and then the suffering was over

[gaunt minnow]

I had fun salvaging

The rest of it was pretty obnoxious tbh.

[vivid lodge]

Trails weren't that bad with rosewood ship

[drifting valley]

Understandable but it is a skill lols

Not all aspects will be super super fun

[gaunt minnow]

Yeah I get that I was never really very keen on a new skill in the first place tbh

But I think salvaging made it okay

[drifting valley]

I said it before and ill say it again..the skill will grow over time and for the people like myself and others who got 99 already will enjoy the new island/rewards right away upon release

Endless opportunity to add whatever in the ocean for us to do

Bosses quests etc

Pvp even

[meager flame]

I think it’s interesting how they sent me an email talking about exploring ways to make my membership more valuable since they’re deleting benefits on rs3 and the follow up is giving me nothing and raising the prices like a week later

I’m sure that’s going well today

[gaunt minnow]

Like I’ve said it’s not a concern for jagex, not enough people will quit and they’ll prob start leagues spoilers tomorrow to cover up the people who did quit and are stil complaining

[meager flame]

Nah it does matter for jagex

[restive storm]

[gaunt minnow]

It really doesn’t. Last time this happened mmk said less than 0.1% of people quit and it was quite funny in the office seeing all the drama

[meager flame]

They’re not the #1 mmo on the market they have to compete

[gaunt minnow]

And the people who do quit resub again after a week

[restive storm]

People don’t even want PvP in the game currently how would putting more convoluted water PvP in the game be a good idea

[drifting valley]

U know what i didnt even think of that but now that u brought this up it all makes so much sense...they gona use leagues as a distraction from all this to soak up the hate and turn it into love

[gaunt minnow]

For sure that’s why they dropped it today

[meager flame]

I’m not sure they’re making a good play by putting themselves in direct pricing comp with a game that actually appeals to more people without giving something back

[gaunt minnow]

Leagues spoilers start tomorrow and it all goes back to normal I bet

[meager flame]

Like if I were them I’d be all for getting more money but they should’ve also offered something new when they did this

Just like last time they raised the price I’ll remind them again

[drifting valley]

As somebody who sucks at pking and isnt a pker..i loved pking in the rev caves back in the day before they nuked it and left it to rot for bots...having said that any new pvp update is a good thing as its dead

[stark dome]

Should have just increased rs3 membership 🙂

[meager flame]

They could get even more money from me than they’re asking for if they let me get membership on more than one character at a discount

But instead they’d rather upset people and lose some subs for a smaller increase

[restive storm]

Yeah, I mean my frustration with jagex, and my reason for quitting is cuz they e been doing the “we think we have something cool for PvP coming up” and it’s just a game jam idea tha they don’t even poll for like the last 3-4 years lol

[drifting valley]

Yes and we will forget all about the bond situation like good little players

[restive storm]

And have never addressed the actual problems out there

[meager flame]

I honestly think their membership department might be brain dead

Which is crazy bc like

[gaunt minnow]

I’m not sure if I can link the twitch clip here but this is basically what mmk said

[meager flame]

Get money invest in people who want to get money have good ideas offer things of value that are easy to do

But instead they basically don’t ever offer anything besides the standard

[drifting valley]

I would love to see old rev caves back or something similar thats new...and i ant even a pker but i did enjoy wildy when it was chaotic and packed with action

But jagex says fuck pvp

Soo...

[restive storm]

We been asking man 😭

[drifting valley]

I was gona invest in webweaver bows last summit then decided not to cuz i didnt believe they would do any pvp and im glad i was correct in my guess

[gaunt minnow]

Yep bring back multi revs and everyone is happy

[drifting valley]

But i think next summit they will

[gaunt minnow]

I’ll pay £20 a month for current osrs with multi revs

[meager flame]

I think if we could see the results of that opinion survey in game

[restive storm]

Trust me man the cope is not worth it, I did that the prior 3 summits before this last one, and it felt horrible, this one I knew there’d be nothing and felt way better about it

[drifting valley]

The old revs were so funnn

[meager flame]

We’d be a lot less confident for revs they went quiet real fast

[restive storm]

They ain’t updating anything lol

[drifting valley]

It was getting people like me who suck at pking entering the caves and still trying to pk and even getting some kills it was great fun

[meager flame]

You guys should ask for more anyways tbh

[drifting valley]

I legit paid for my friends augry prayer scroll just so he can tb for us

[meager flame]

Like real updates with effort behind them

[drifting valley]

It was that fun

[restive storm]

We’re gonna get Q2 leagues, idk what they’re even doing for Q3, then Q4 raids, then we’re back to probably Q1 dmm for updates

And that’s about it

[meager flame]

Blood moon

[gaunt minnow]

Q3 is the final quest

The way blood mooon rises

Or whatever

[analog crow]

Just to get disappointed, but at least you get to feel something

[lean crag]

I disconnect for a few days and come back to canceling both my yearly subs oof

[drifting valley]

I feel like last year they were busy with varlamore and this year with raids 4...so next year has to be for pvp right...........right?

[restive storm]

I guess but that’s not nearly enough for their metrics to show a jump I don’t think so they may have something else in there

[gaunt minnow]

See you in a week king

[restive storm]

This year is likely just sailing and the raid

[lean crag]

Oh my subs just renewed last month, but my accounts can sustain themselves with RSGP not giving them money directly anymore lol

[drifting valley]

He will be back...just wait for leagues blog

[restive storm]

As far as main game goes

[gaunt minnow]

Nice, same

I havnt paid irl money for members in 4 years

[meager flame]

Maggot king boss is the other big update

[restive storm]

Eh that’s a rather minor update

[meager flame]

Also a project rebalance is coming

[drifting valley]

Yesh this year no pvp but runefest coming up they will do pvp pretty sure

[meager flame]

We probably get the blog soon for that

[lean crag]

I just paid for yearly subs because I wanted to be lazy and not do GP upkeep but thays a second huge hike and I won't pay nearly a WoW sub for members on 1 acc

[gaunt minnow]

Yeah and it’ll be something no one asked for and probably a DOR update (like pvp arena)

The PvP community just wants multi revs back

[drifting valley]

See u in leagues lmao

[gaunt minnow]

Don’t need anything extra

[restive storm]

Ugh bro I’m not excited to see a month straight of leagues posts

[meager flame]

I think the problem with revs is that nobody else wants it or thinks it’s a good idea and honestly they aren’t wrong

[lean crag]

I mean you keep saying that like I care about leagues lol

[meager flame]

It’s the worst kind of update

However

[gaunt minnow]

I honestly think the entry fee fix I’ll stop the ragging clans

[drifting valley]

I dont play leagues at all but im 100% buying that soul reaper axe kit

[meager flame]

You guys should get real updates with effort behind it

[gaunt minnow]

Just have a few hundred k entry fee and we should be good

[meager flame]

They have you guys begging for 4 walls and some npcs that drop alchs

[drifting valley]

See u at maggot king or raids 4 then

[meager flame]

It’s crazy lol

[gaunt minnow]

It’s true hahaha

Sad and true

[restive storm]

Same never played a league never will, also SRA is kinda useless anyway so won’t be buying

[lean crag]

Probably right, but like I said my accounts can sustain themselves Jagex ain't seeing a dollar of real money from me again 🤣

[drifting valley]

I only bought it since i was collecting all the pvm gear

Have a pvm tab with all items before i stopped pvming to go for max cape

Doing 99 rc grind atm

[drifting valley]

Oh yah i agree, i never paid a cent. I just buy bonds with ingame gp

Easy to upkeep bonds nowadays even when just skilling full time

Coral farming easy bond

[lean crag]

Yeah I just gotta not be lazy on GP upkeep now

Good thing I got like 90m in alchs in my alch tab

[meager flame]

I still can’t get over how they have no strategy when it comes to selling membership

[stark dome]

Wdym no strategy

[meager flame]

For example

[stark dome]

Get us hooked with nostalgia then take advantage of the addiction

Solid strategy

[meager flame]

I have 4 or 5 accounts I could realistically be playing on but I never sub more than one basically

[gaunt minnow]

They have a strategy, it’s increase it by X percent per year. Small enough where it’s not a big impact on our wallet but big enough that it keeps investors happy

[meager flame]

If you said hey give me 20 for 2

You’d now have more money and I’d have more characters

We both win

I have no idea why they don’t do stuff like that to get additional $ basically

I’m sure a lot of people have a main and iron or a main and pure etc that they don’t sub together

[stark dome]

You'd be surprised

Whenever I get a big drop on my uim I cant use, folks assume I have a membered up main to drop it to

Makes me think most irons have that

[meager flame]

I have bonded my main for that before but right now I have like

4b in dupes it’s been so long

[gaunt minnow]

I think a lot of irons do have that. Or at least a friend to drop it over to

[stark dome]

Yeah ive got a buddy who takes my overflow

[meager flame]

Yeah usually you can get a friend or use a one off bond

[stark dome]

Hope he doesnt get dinged for rwt lol

[meager flame]

But a monthly recurring sub if they offered it at the right price

Jagex would be getting more long term

[stark dome]

Maybe

[gaunt minnow]

I’ve dropped over many bills in dupes to my buddy or my alt but tbh I could easily just horde it and just buy a 1$ membership every 6 months to do the same thing

I don’t think it’s a big money maker for jagex

They’d be better off leaning into the alt Uim or ironmen packages

[stark dome]

They'd lose a bunch of monthly income right off the jump too though

So you'd have to run the numbers on it

[gaunt minnow]

Like 1 normal account 1 Ironman for 80% cost of 2 memberships

[stark dome]

How many people would on board, and would it offset the loss

[meager flame]

I just can’t believe they don’t play the game with player sentiment

There are ways to basically easily increase the value with packages that you convince people to pay extra for

And it looks better than just raising prices every 6 months

[gaunt minnow]

They’ve probably ran the maths on it and it’s not worth it

But it makes sense to me tbh

I’d be all over that

[meager flame]

There’s other stuff too

They’re fixing rs3 right and want it to live

Invest in letting people play both games at once on the same account

Osrs players will help keep the game healthy if it’s worth playing

But if they have to choose they’ll stay on osrs

They’d retain more membership too because some of them will realize they like rs3 even if they get bored on osrs

And vice versa

[teal hinge]

Have they ever acknowledged that this could be considered? I see people mention it often

[meager flame]

It’s possible it’s just a lot of work which is why they don’t do it

Both games use the same login system I’m assuming

And they don’t want to fix it

[drifting valley]

Rs3 isnt a game...its a politcal stance

[full rune]

We shouldn't be footing the bill for removing mtx in rs3... What have we gotten other than sailing thats "worth" a price hike?

Servers are trash, sailing was trash in my oppinion and a lot of others & we would rather you take it away than force us to pay more... for the nothingness it added to the game.

Instead of paying ceos more hows about you spend some of the amazing profit you already make to make a price hike in the future worth it with stufff like multiple accounts on 1 membership (heyyy ff14 & warcraft) n make it so we can play rs3 and osrs at the same time.

This is a slap in the face...

You already made me drink brutus milk....

Dont pump us all full of it now too....

[meager flame]

We actually are getting a pretty dead year for the price increase if you aren’t a temp mode player

[drifting valley]

How can sailing be trash if its the best skill in the game

Anybody else like rcing or wcing more?

Maybe cooking lol

Insane stance

[meager flame]

We’re basically all getting hoed over other games and modes when we might just be regular osrs players lol

[full rune]

Ill take runes over the nothing sailing gives any day lol

[drifting valley]

Are u an iron?

[restive storm]

Unironically I liked rc way more

Fits the game so much better

[drifting valley]

Ive heard it all folks

[meager flame]

I mean after hitting 99 sailing the gameplay is like

Fine it’s whatever

The rewards are the problem

[vivid lodge]

My dumbass got maxed boats to have them sit for the last 2 months +

[full rune]

Nope, max combat main with over 2k chambers done

[meager flame]

You hit 99 and you’re just like yeah so there’s no reason to do any of this and that’s that

[full rune]

Sailing gives you nothing you need for your account to do anything other than sailing

My sailing lvl is 44 lol

[robust wyvern]

Yet…

[full rune]

Its useless

[vivid lodge]

Vamp kraken were chill and great whites too but meh after that

[drifting valley]

Well guess what...without sailing you wont have overloads that will come into the game in the future

[full rune]

Who needs overloads LOL

[drifting valley]

So dont use any overloads if u dont support sailing

[proud gulch]

master clue on brittle isle

[robust wyvern]

Thought you’ve done 2k cox?

[proud gulch]

could've been the third age

[full rune]

Lol shorky in game name

[vivid lodge]

beep boop

[full rune]

Check me bb

[drifting valley]

Also dont use any haemostatic dressings to cure bleed when doing vardorvis or any future bosses who make u bleed

Cuz sailing

[full rune]

Who needs that for vard lolo

U must not pvm

[robust wyvern]

Sailing just released. If u think they don’t expand upon it u are braindead and should never be allowed in the comment section again

[meager flame]

Ya I choose not being ass on vard but maybe in the future

[full rune]

Lol yeah add more sea agility thatl make it better

[vivid lodge]

trails were fine

if you could click

[full rune]

Or lock a raid behind it to justify training it... its not worth a price hike

[drifting valley]

Please go rc for runes that will make u feel better

[gaunt minnow]

The price hikes happen yearly with sailing or not

[full rune]

Point stands we got nothing that justifys a price hike lol

[robust wyvern]

Raids 4 will have nothing to do with sailing

[gaunt minnow]

We’re not paying FOR sailing

[meager flame]

Yeah the price hike isn’t buying new stuff it’s to probably offset the loss of rs3

[full rune]

For sailing and rs3 mtx removal but u think what u want hun n ill do the same 🫶😝

[meager flame]

And because they want more money

People forget who owns jagex

[gaunt minnow]

We got price hikes the last 2 years without sailing and without mtx removal

And we’ll get the same next year

This is a subscription based game you’re not paying for the content you’re paying to keep investors happy

[vivid lodge]

can always just buy bonds and avoid irl

[meager flame]

Someone buys those bonds

If we all did that most people couldn’t buy bonds

[hasty shard]

i lowkey think people are less mad than the salvaging changes

[meager flame]

Oh for sure

[gaunt minnow]

Oh I am for sure

[meager flame]

The salvage guys have jobs

[gaunt minnow]

I was fuming at the salvaging changes

I’ve made loads of gp today with this update

I’m happy

[drifting valley]

Sailing is the best skill we got and it will get better...if yall think rcing is more fun yall coping

[meager flame]

Im just confused at their strategy for making more money

[drifting valley]

Their strat is knowledge

[tough nacelle]

32.5% a year

“Small increase”

[gaunt minnow]

The strategy seems to be up the prices and then cover it up with leagues teasers (I bet we get one tomorrow)

[tough nacelle]

Absolutely bonkers

Imagine anything else went up this quickly

[drifting valley]

Im with this

[meager flame]

It just seems like it would be easy to hide price increases beneath some level of additional offerings or combo deals etc

But they just go straight in with making people mad

[tough nacelle]

This is what people are ignoring

The price for annual subs is up more than 70% for certain countries and most around 65

in less than 2 years

What the absolute heck

Are they offering to nearly double the subscription cost

[drifting valley]

Its cuz they can

[meager flame]

Well in this case nothing

Lmao

That’s the insane part

They’re not very good with marketing

[tough nacelle]

A few % increases a year is reasonable- 1-2% sure

[placid ore]

RC has always been, and will always be, my favorite skill. Was my first 99 by a long shot.

[tough nacelle]

But 35?!???!?!?!

[drifting valley]

They know we are willing to sell our spare kidney if it means having to continue playing osrs...whos with me?

[tough nacelle]

That’s actually insane

[hasty shard]

they will say inflation is only 1-2% btw :3c

[drifting valley]

Oil prices are up so they need extra money

It all makes sense

[hasty shard]

remember when oil was free for a month

[restive storm]

Anti-RC propaganda will not be tolerated here, only allowances are dislike of gotr/afk zeah rc

[drifting valley]

Im not shitting on rc...actually fuck it i am u got me

Im hating every min of it rn

[obsidian shoal]

Went down like a lead balloon

[drifting valley]

Jagex says hey! We wana join in on the soaring prices too

And then tmrw we will get a leagues blog

And we will all forget about today

Its genius really

Cant make this strat up

[meager flame]

Tbf I won’t forget I don’t even care about the league lmao

I wonder if league hype is even real or if it’s just like

Everyone says it’s there but nobody actually cares like that

We will probably play some of course but like

[drifting valley]

Its real, alot of people LOVE leagues

[meager flame]

Who actually cares about teasers

[drifting valley]

But we will get blood moon after that aswell

[vivid lodge]

tbf leagues is fun for a week or two then dead imo

[signal kernel]

I havent even done sote quest yet, there's too much to do!

[meager flame]

Ya idk if I’ll get dragon in 2 weeks like the last one or not

It was fun but like

Idk league fatigue it gets boring

[vivid lodge]

DMM is the only temp game mode I enjoy

[drifting valley]

I dont play leagues but i will purchase the soul reaper axe kit for myself

[meager flame]

That’s the other thing

[drifting valley]

And the thralls recolor

[vivid lodge]

axe kit is kinda meh and thralls kinda pointless because I only outline mine so may sit out this leagues

[meager flame]

They’ve done such a bad job at giving me good league rewards I have more points than can be spent without even playing the next one

[vivid lodge]

^^^

[drifting valley]

I like the thralls and axe kit

Not gona play leagues for it but will buy it from ge

[vivid lodge]

thralls are cool but i outline mine so kinda pointless

[gaunt minnow]

Yeah I’m getting those and the skin colour too

[meager flame]

I wish they didn’t do ground shadows the way they do so I didn’t have outlines for thralls

[vivid lodge]

oathplate helm is pointless imo

[meager flame]

They should just make entire tiles glow or something lol

[vivid lodge]

only one i would get is the white to match my gear but already have the white olm slayer helm so idk

[meager flame]

But idk how locked in their art team really is with players actually playing the game

If you look at me doing pnm I did a lot of work to make things visible

[restive storm]

Do abyss rc like a real man

[obsidian venture]

Shoutout to blood rc and gotr

[meager flame]

Pnm is probably the worst example though I feel like most people change almost everything lol

Highlights for the npcs color changes on pillars removing the floor outlines on the thralls

Some people even swap sounds but I don’t do that

[obsidian venture]

I haven’t changed much at pnm personally

[meager flame]

I did it for awhile like completely natty

[obsidian venture]

Although haven’t potted since last bingo

[placid ore]

Only highlight I have are the sleepwalkers.

[meager flame]

But honestly it really just is way easier to see if you fix it

[vivid lodge]

blindfold pluggin is OP at PNM

[obsidian venture]

I don’t have a money setup atm as the setup I have is fun

[vivid lodge]

• skybox

[obsidian venture]

But when I genuinely pet hunt I’ll use a normal setup

[hasty shard]

watchdog to remove prayer swap mechanic :3c

[meager flame]

I don’t use that either but I did think about how easy it would be

[hasty shard]

its funny i know exactly how to set it up in my head

mechanic message in chat -> turns on prayer order plugin + texture pack to change their icons

and then it turns off after x seconds

the year is 2037 watchdog is still enabled at nightmare

[drifting valley]

You will never pk my d pick and pure ess

Not happening!

[restive storm]

Man I ain’t even subbed I can’t even abyss pk if I wanted to

[drifting valley]

I like zmi alot

Its so much more afk

Its getting me through the aids

Slowly but surely

My goal is max cape before raids 4

After rc i got quite fast skills left

Cooking fletching wcing mining fire making

Mining will be last

Ill be sailing to ironwood trees for wcing

Heard they 80k an hr and a bank nearby

So another w for sailing

[stark dome]

Bank op

[drifting valley]

I actually havent seen how close it is but heard its very close

Im 90 wc atm so i guess thats where ill be for 9 lvls

Its crazy how much im engaging with sailing for how new it is

Coral farming is such a huge w and will open up use cases for anti bleed dressings in future bosses too

And i can see maggot king boss causing bleed

[wet smelt]

wtf why did they change the price of subscriptions instantly

They usually announce them in advance

[mental notch]

ur forcing players to start their own bot farms just to be able to pay for membership prices

[short lake]

how much is it now?

[ashen yarrow]

cannot announce earlier since bonds also got $1 raise i think

[wet smelt]

So?

[meager flame]

do you really need to ask this

you see if they announced in advance you would have the chance to pay the old price at the last minute

[wet smelt]

And I should be happy they didn’t give us a chance?

[meager flame]

where if they do it this way they guarantee you're fucked for the league when people want to pay to play it

no im just telling you why they did it

they want your money not your feelings

[wet smelt]

I should be happy the company who owns jagex gets more money to themselves instead of money I want to use myself?

[meager flame]

no im saying you being happy is irrelevant

they dont care

otherwise they would have given you a warning

i personally think its a mistake but like

[wet smelt]

Oh gee I do love when people are happy that shareholders get more money

[meager flame]

idk they dont seem interested in generating good will and trying to offer value in exchange for money

they instead are just telling you the price of the brick going up

[wet smelt]

Also grandfathering price literally is impossible for me even though I’m on the yearly subscription

Why did they make the grandfather threshold over a year ago

[mental notch]

for casual player to play couple hours after work u have to spend whole week grinding just to make enough for a bond...

whats the point in playing the game if ur forced to grind entire time to sustain membership?

[lean crag]

My bet this is to make up lost revenue from removal of treasure hunter and related MTX

[meager flame]

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[wet smelt]

Literally the price of everything essential is going up because ww3 is ramping up and jagex who is arguably insulated from the supply chain needs more money

[mental notch]

and then u have jagex talks how players should stop buying gold lol

[bronze kernel]

I'm not surprised they went up if they need to compensate somehow for removing all of the MTX

[wet smelt]

They should unlink the membership from both games and have rs3 be 20 dollars a month

[bronze kernel]

On the bright side

[lean crag]

Im anti buying GP but honestly at this point they dont care about integrity so why should I tell gold buyers/sellers to asking us to pay for membership that costs as much as WoW sub for a single members character LUL

[bronze kernel]

At least they didn't go the route of needing an additional fee to access OSRS

[mental notch]

there is one?

[bronze kernel]

That was one of the first options they considered back in 2013

Or so

[mental notch]

dont give them ideas!

[bronze kernel]

How can I give them an idea they already had?

[wet smelt]

There’s an additional fee for not playing rs3

[meager flame]

ya thats what we all pay monthly

[tender peak]

(still cheaper than WoW, actually- WoW is $156/yr now, not including expansion or convenience charges)

[bronze kernel]

It's kind of the reverse for the other side too

[meager flame]

keeping that dead ass game alive for no reason

even though it failed like 10 years ago lol

[wet smelt]

Osrs dwarfes rs3 in subscriptions

[bronze kernel]

You know, they should implement the Devolution of Combat to RS3. That would be funny

[wet smelt]

Anyways, if I ever buy membership in this game again I’m doing it through steam to fuck them over the 30%

[bronze kernel]

Gradually change combat backwards

Or we can pay by the hour

Only pay for what we use

[meager flame]

tbf though as like a realistic take

this isn't making up for rs3 at all

iirc revenue from mtx was declining yearly but they were making record profits from subs

so the price being raised is actually just them getting more money period

[mental notch]

no need to feel bad they fucked it up with eoc

[bronze kernel]

EoC was the final nail in the coffin

I think EoC is fine in its current state for what it is. But it stripped away the entire identity of the game.

Just became another skill rotation button mash MMO

[wet smelt]

this is like the third price increase in the last 5 years

[meager flame]

i also dont think the rs team appreciates taking the bullets for mod north

[wet smelt]

literally i dont get a pay raise that often

[bronze kernel]

There were other problems then, yes. But it killed RuneScape core identity IMO

[meager flame]

usually its like a collective decision or whatever but actually its just north this time

you can explicitly blame him

[tender peak]

mod north? Doing something controversial?

never

[wet smelt]

all because mod north is scared of gay people

[meager flame]

i think they're just hoping people dont understand how pricing adjustments are decided upon

or will blame it on cvc

but you can put a name/face on this one

so its kind of cringe to see them put - the jagex team

etc on it

[tender peak]

I need to do more research on this topic

time to google runescape inflation and see what comes up

[meager flame]

i actually did the numbers on that with the last price increase

the old 12 month sub was actually rather close to in line with inflation last year

but the latest hike definitely fucked that up

comparing to 2005

[lean crag]

Wow $25 cheaper

[meager flame]

the part about the wow sub even including expansions that makes this look so bad

is that they also give you access to multiple versions of the game and temporary modes

while having better support and also allowing you to play as many characters as you want

the cap is unrealistic on characters