#game-update

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thick beacon
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the only big thing was instant 100k+ splinters but now u can passively charge quiver to

glossy island
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Where the patch notes?

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We don’t have a channel for that

frail bough
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friends chat (old clan chat) you can type whatever name you want

ember token
glossy island
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I mean I guess I’ll go to the website

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But I wanted them here

ember token
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correct

glossy island
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Why not in the official discord

ember token
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that's where they always are

glossy island
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Oh well

dire mango
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it would just be a link to the website

ember token
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conveniently, the discord links to the update blogs already #game-news

glossy island
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Betttt

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Thats what I was looking forrrr

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Tytyty

charred acorn
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Damn when are we gonna get an update to the sand to reduce the charges from 3 to 2 blood runes

chrome lantern
ancient apex
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You see, da issue with regular loot wave 1 is dat since there’s a preview loot ahead. Ppl are gonna scout like crazy to get da biggest drop wave 1

frail bough
polar skiff
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Why are they trying to prio moons over an enitre skill

frail bough
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they were fixing a bug brother

polar skiff
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Slayer has been broken for the last 2 almost 3 hours

restive siren
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crazy that some things are easy to fix

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and others arent

frail bough
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wait what

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aint no way

dire mango
ancient apex
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Or just disable preview wave 1 since it’s kinda dumb anyway

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Start from wave 2 and onwards

dire mango
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if they use the w2 table, without rune and with the quantities reduced, i don't the benefit of resetting for loot.

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frail nebula
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Yeah, and it seems like they haven't entirely realized this

hasty shard
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redditors complaining about dooms droptable again i see

thick beacon
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id personally just like to see a reason to use charges outside of just tbow really

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make quiver works fully with any weapon

elfin glade
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You can name your cat after Ratcatchers.

mild saddle
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is it too late to make bowfa use arrows and reduce it's range str by dragon arrow's str?

obsidian venture
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This is really funny btw

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elfin glade
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Also FYI Jagex, last week when the PVP world/LMS/BH rota didn't change, the PVP Arena rotation DID change.
The newsposts both last week and this week are incorrect. Last week it used Max/Med, this week it's Zerker.

eager dragon
shadow wave
sacred skiff
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With the rune pouch update, it would be really nice if we could A) hide the names (or hide them unless editing if that setup is unnamed, perhaps?) and B) have some more generic names, for example Arceuus 1 and Arceuus 2 (for with/without aether runes)

Ooh or "NPC Contact" or "Farming"

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As-is, I'm leaving most/all of my setups unnamed because it's faster to read the runes than an inaccurate name, and that means I can see one fewer setup without scrolling, which is a bummer.

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I do like having 10 possible setups now though

obsidian venture
candid pawn
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Does anyone know how to reset the minimap size? Thought I'd minimize it to try it out and now when I right click the map button there's no options anymore.

vivid ruin
candid pawn
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Ah, so it's just like that for now then ig

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tried alt and dragging, resetting position, but nothing. Wonder if a plugin is messing with it somehow

candid pawn
hexed wolf
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Another week, another patch where they didn’t fix pets being lost when using fairy ring in PoH 🙁

sacred skiff
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Just get your pet partial fairy tale p2 completion, ez

idle rapids
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they added a fix for that already

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hexed wolf
# idle rapids they added a fix for that already

Oh it automatically calls the pet when using the ring now? Didn’t realize it did that completely automatically now. Using rings elsewhere doesn’t have this problem. Or other teleports. Just PoH ring that I’ve noticed. Super glad they added automatic whistling and fixed the butler going on the trip with us.

idle rapids
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The butler coming with you is an intentional easter egg

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Settled talks about it in swampletics, great series if you haven't seen it

hexed wolf
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Seems too boring to be an Easter egg. He just moonwalks then disappears

stone cloak
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can we keep the compass when getting rid of the minimap
also is there a way to order the orbs the same as mobile when the minimap is hidden

finite tapir
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6 9 12 imo

sacred skiff
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Why any guaranteed splinters though

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Just let them start having a chance to drop 2+

ember token
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because it makes colo loot more consistent

finite tapir
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incentive to reach wave milestones

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and that

sacred skiff
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the guaranteed splinters as is though

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are like less than 5% of the expected spinters from a full run, even less if you're trading in quivers

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So they're like nothing, just exist for bots to farm and drive splinters into the ground

shadow wave
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In a world in which you couldn't bless Quiver (like Jagex intended), having a guaranteed farm is not a bad idea to make quiver more usuable

obsidian venture
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@hard axle @finite tapir

finite tapir
fast spade
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There's another bug when trying to turael skip a boss task now, you get a prompt saying you aren't supposed to have it, would you like to cancel it, and then if you say no, she says good luck and then gives you a turael task

graceful agate
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Okay, gotta say it, I was MASSIVELY a fan of expanded rune pouch layouts, but please either let us custom-name them, or if that's technically problematic at least provide a more extensive list of names, or ideally a toggle to hide the name boxes if we want to.

It's definitely a positive step, but the new interface as it is right now feels clunky and not really giving the qol this update seems to have been aimed for. The lack of very obvious basic setup names like 'Thralls', 'Runecrafting' (or 'Guardians of the Rift'), 'Farming', etc, is... a surprising oversight.

sacred skiff
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Rune pouch update is honestly 3 steps forward 2 steps back. Would love to hide the names since like one of them is relevant across my 6 or 7 saved setups and they take up a whole row of room between the 3 displayed

graceful agate
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this Definitely agreed. If I may, my personal suggestion would probably be to keep the expanded number of loadouts but just disable/hide the naming option for now, if that's easy to do. (Or ideally put this as a toggle in settings)

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As I'm guessing there's a technical reason why we're not able to just custom-name them?

fast spade
graceful agate
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Since they seem to be taking lead on this I might just - with apologies for the notification - tag @ancient ember for these suggestions ^^

gleaming karma
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  1. Absolutely crazy they added so many rune pouch name options instead of a custom text field.
  2. World map hiding issue hasn't been acknowledged. The world map keep popping up as a black box when I have it hidden.
ember token
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so that's why it hasnt been acknowledged

gleaming karma
ember token
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I would guess the minimap plugin :P

shadow wave
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Yeah, minimap plugin

gleaming karma
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Cool, that seems to have fixed it. Glad I didn't just ignore it

restive siren
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first stash i try to put my equipped items in immediately doesnt work lol

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anyone else having that happen?

ember token
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do you have it enabled in settings

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not turned on by default

restive siren
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nvm im dumb then

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why would that not be default though ancestralhmm

meager flame
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No matter how they want to swing it doom wasn't where the drop started

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Personally I think if you deleted doom drops and wave 1 farmers we would still hit a point where most of the people blessing their quiver were done and we'd find out that people just dont use enough splinters without that

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And price goes down

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Maybe people dont notice because theyre not irons so they just buy whatever they need without thinking too hard about it but basically

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You really do not need many splinters if any really to keep up with doing a little prayer or using a ralos

vivid ruin
restive siren
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yeah very strange

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ton of players wont ever find that option

mild saddle
meager flame
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Ya its just the entire thing kinda doesn't make any sense

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Like

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The design of the resource is built to fail

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The big spend for it is based on a number of players that will rapidly shrink and the consistent usage is basically free

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We're just going to outpace the demand over time

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Ik its harder to do but what they needed was somewhere to spend a lot of splinters that anyone would care about

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Assuming people even want that anyways

spiral storm
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Does the annoying compass feature ever go away? It's disappeared but the "Look North" option is still there when you click it. So it looks like clickable space but isnt

meager flame
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Or to substantially increase splinter cost for prayer

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Since it kind of is insanely generous

unborn dagger
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The rune pouch update is bad. Should be able to enter custom names and option to hide names.

spiral storm
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I'm more annoyed that the minimap update was half cooked

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Like it hides it but the orbs are in bad places and the compass "Look" feature doesn't go away when hidden. Also, why cant we hide individual orbs? The xp and map button are annoying but I don't want to hide HP and prayer with them lol.

narrow folio
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Theres rune pouch name plugin btw, been using that forever

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Dunno if it works rn tho

static zealot
# graceful agate Okay, gotta say it, I was _MASSIVELY_ a fan of expanded rune pouch layouts, but ...

I don't even agree that it's a positive step, previously there were 4 loadouts that were accessible and easy to switch to, now it's 2 (3 if you want to argue that cut off one is accessible, which I don't agree with). Even leaving aside the inability to create custom names for loadouts (I'm willing to accept that as a technical limitation) the impetus behind the update was good, but the implementation has such a bad UX that I vastly preferred the rune pouch before.

meager flame
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I mean not to beat a dead horse but yeah its just straight up ux gore

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Better luck next time hopefully they learn from this since whoever did it probably wasn't super experienced

quick grove
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Chompy bird kc for Western Hard diary seems bugged. Have 302 kc and Rantz is giving me the corresponding hat but the diary isn't updating

fervent flame
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Can we have an option to revert the rune pouch update, please?

It's so noisy now and we have to scroll.

wise cloud
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I don't think naming the rune pouch tabs is even necessary. I wish I could hide them. I know what I need I just need to see the runes

narrow folio
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Yeah before u had the choice of custom naming with a plugin

chrome pier
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minimap is bugged when you minimise it on "modern" layout

Minimises fine on classic layout though.

plush gull
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is there a way to switch to the old rune pouch ui? now i have to scroll down to access the 4th layout

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bold palm
charred robin
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T9 shooting star in Draynor W528

round lintel
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I believe splinters are a nice way to keep the colosseum profitable and relevant after CAs for many people but I think the real problem lies on how useless the uniques are

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Ralos niche not very useful at all, very slow to main hand

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The Echo boots are really slow recoil and sometimes even worst than a ring of recoil

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Sunfire armour literally only use for a Yama contract recently otherwise nobody use it for what it is

chrome lantern
hasty shard
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id rather they just not exist to avoid implied flickscape

chrome lantern
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Honestly they should make Echo boots charge with splinters if they want a sink, and get rid of all the multi-crystal drops

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Echo crystals don’t really need to stay expensive since they’re kinda useless

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But like no ironman is ever going to even touch them for example

hasty shard
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i was about to say inferno boots but no treads do in fact exist now

elfin glade
frail bough
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The only place i can think of is friends chat name prefix

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And dt2 quest things

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But dt2 stuff doesn't get stored so idk if that counts

ember token
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there's a few quests where you can input text but it doesn't actually store/save it

chrome lantern
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More like triggering a flag

frail bough
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I sincerely don't understand why they refuse or can't do free text just from the friends chat example though

hard axle
hard axle
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Just goes to show how easy and accessible doom is

hasty shard
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like holy fuck be grateful
its more gp/h than nightmare 😭

hard axle
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And that’s with me basically never claiming until unique or completely out of supplies since pet hunting

hard axle
hasty shard
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they just need to fucking fix sunkissed bone value

hard axle
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I remember when mfers got 700k base loot from gwd and were happy.

finite tapir
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maybe this is a very hot take but

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i don't think you should get any uniques from doom until w8

hasty shard
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if doom drop table was an issue nightmare would drop 1/2 blood shards

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hot take

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but it shouldnt be current reqs anyhow

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wave 2 cloth mlol

chrome lantern
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I think another factor is that the majority of people just don’t really value hunting colo drops or doing it as a moneymaker due to the type of content it is

hard axle
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Cuz 90% of my uniques are 1-7

hasty shard
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i still think its bias unless they just come out and say its bugged

hard axle
chrome lantern
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I’ve only gotten one drop from 8+ and my pb is 21

finite tapir
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that doesn't mean much to me

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not really conclusive

chrome lantern
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And it was on 9

hard axle
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800-900 total deeps and 1 drop was from deep

hasty shard
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forum footnote

finite tapir
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hmm

hasty shard
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hm pets

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imagine if pet roll fucks with uniques

finite tapir
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i say "only" because people obviously go 5x dry on a lot of things

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idk if i would say that's conclusive

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it'd need to be a ridiculous proportion

hasty shard
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i dont have a wave 8+ drop
ive also not been playing

hard axle
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It’s just a lot of people have been collectively saying it

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And we did call out the shark lure bs with similar metrics

finite tapir
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would need to know internal data i think

hard axle
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shark lure is bugged btw

finite tapir
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bc of survivorship bias

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what's bugged about shark lure

chrome lantern
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They said it didn’t make pet more rare but it did

hasty shard
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why did they even make them different to worms genuinely

hard axle
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Let me check cuz arcane confirmed iirc

hasty shard
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its like they dont want people to actually use them 😭

finite tapir
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although i don't think that's even really a problem

hard axle
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Or goblin confirmed

hasty shard
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i meant mechanically not like

finite tapir
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it's a problem if something like blood shard is tied to blood runes (cough sanguine jelly)

hasty shard
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making worms work for shark

obsidian venture
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It’s really funny because most folks aren’t even hitting the “end-game” part of the boss. So midgame players doing midgame content for bis. Nice one Jagex 🔥

hard axle
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We had about 30M sharks fished in the calc and only 3 herons kekw

finite tapir
chrome lantern
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And did it until he got it

obsidian venture
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Yep

elfin glade
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Using the numbers for global delve completions Gnomonkey showed in his video, I calculated how many drops are expected from each delve.
I estimated about 67,207 total cloths, of which 6155 and 6934 come from delve 2 and 3, respectively.
20% or so coming from such low waves does seeem to support Gnomonkey's argument that they drop too early, IMO.

hasty shard
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again reddit is mad that the boss isnt giving 1k telos tier loot

finite tapir
hasty shard
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telling of average skill level

mild saddle
finite tapir
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again, this isn't actually a useful metric i fear

hard axle
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@finite tapir

finite tapir
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this is survivorship bias at its finest

chrome lantern
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But yeah originally Goblin had said the more common sharks shouldn’t hurt heron rate at all and would make it easier to get

finite tapir
hard axle
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Which is why it came out to about 10x rate

finite tapir
elfin glade
hard axle
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but since it actually reduces the drop rate for faster rolls, it ends up being worse

finite tapir
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if you were forced to like, maintain a unique in the hole until wave 8 or something

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then i think that would be a more reliable stat

finite tapir
obsidian venture
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I truly hate that they call this an endgame boss

finite tapir
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i mean they called yama an endgame boss too

obsidian venture
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When the vast majority switches prayers like they’re at jad and gets bis gear

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Accessibility is fine but make it make sense

hasty shard
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i still think yama is like zulrah tier

obsidian venture
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It is

finite tapir
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duo yama is definitely

obsidian venture
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Jagex doesn’t know what endgame means besides adding a useless cosmetic to it

hasty shard
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you took longer than me to get it zzzzz

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contracts bad though

obsidian venture
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Or if endgame is switching prayers once every 3-4t so be it

finite tapir
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i remember talking to draco centuries ago about my extremely elaborate boss concept, having a unique drop "similar" to eye of ayak

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mainly in the sense that its a 3t mage weapon which can drain magic defence bonus

hard axle
hasty shard
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glyphic was unironically the most interesting one until they patched the bolt stuff

finite tapir
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you also need to complete 4 of the 12 available combat achievements to use the unique

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which means you will have a minimum of 25 kc on the boss if you did all the "easiest in terms of rating" tasks

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hasty shard
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both are just heavily implying melee

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the other is also just some jmod trying to merch inq mace

finite tapir
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and the 4th unique, the rarest of the list, requires you to have completed every combat achievement to use

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of which the hardest in the list is itself harder than like 99.9% of clue steps i personally hand out

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hasty shard
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when are we getting imperfection cas where you fail every mechanic

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we need it at doom

finite tapir
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how would this work

hasty shard
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ok so if there are leeches at doom you have to soak them

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shield phase you tank blast

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etc

finite tapir
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does the blast hit above 99

plush gull
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pray melee against every maiden hit and only hit bloat while flies are hitting you with protect from mage up

hasty shard
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i think its exactly 99

finite tapir
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oh

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interesting

hasty shard
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starts lower iirc

meager flame
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so they just release tactical useless stuff

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or maybe they really wanted to nerf passive sharks from pvm but knew that sounded too much like a nerf so they added that

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knowing people wouldn't actually go use them

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whatever the reason though they kinda flopped i'd compare it to when they added bonfires but made the exp/log awful and also made the rate that you added logs to the fire terrible

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so it was just dead on arrival

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except in this case its you can spend money to catch sharks faster for no exp, gp or pet chance

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:)

narrow folio
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Wouldve rather had a dark crab booster or something

meager flame
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im pretty sure their real use rn is just for moon half keys

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it looks like thats dying out too since theres a pretty limited supply of people that crazy about the clog

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also interestingly

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the volume of raw sharks has exploded

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basically running at double what we had in january

hasty shard
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i think they should just. undo that update

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i still cant fathom why they touched mantas

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oh fuck an item is dropping from their main source too much!!

meager flame
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some crazy person decided that we should fish to get fish

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but forgot that fishing for most things like that absolutely blows

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lol

hasty shard
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people fish for xp not items

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couldnt even remove them from whisperer where they shouldnt even be zzzz

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dt2 largely being untouched except for levi getting catalysts was stupid imo

meager flame
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tbh i dont even care if they change the noted pvm drops where they happen if they give me an acceptably fast alternative for fishing

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specifically noted though

narrow folio
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Shouldnt have nerfed current boss drops for whatever this is

meager flame
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they should do nothing to the drops that drop with the intention that you eat them on the spot

hasty shard
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eh i'd want levi/wisp/duke/phosanis supply drops to be changed

meager flame
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the problem is they're always kinda half assing stuff like this

hasty shard
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phosani just straight up has supplies designed to be split between others in a solo encounter lol

meager flame
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ya i dont mind too much because the practical result is you just eat whatever you need and otherwise stuff despawns on you

hasty shard
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levi remove the angler drop and replace the turtles with said anglers
wisp remove the 3-4 mantas (???) for like one shark and add a ppot
duke add an energy pot drop

meager flame
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tbh i think its pretty simple they just dont want to invest in the process

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for example

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okay you hate how many noted mantas i got from vorkath and zulrah jagex for whatever reason

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how about we get a reasonable way to fish mantas

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then you can delete that drop entirely

hasty shard
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i dont even really see the issue with them being largely unfishable

meager flame
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the problem basically boils down to if they want them to be used or not

hasty shard
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are they still more expensive than crabs/anglers

meager flame
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the current state of the game is that we do use them so if they want to remove the pvm from what should be skilling supplies

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they're gonna have to provide a skilling method that anyone is willing to do

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they are more expensive than anglers

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dark crab costs more than both

hasty shard
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tf

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did they ban bots feelsroqman

meager flame
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i think the community just collectively says no to the wilderness

hasty shard
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ban the impactful bots not the wholesome noncompetitive dark crabbers smh!!1

meager flame
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i cant lie

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i actually think the bots that do the shit nobody wants to do are good for the game lmao

hasty shard
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the idea that people would even do half the tedious shit is such a fantasy imo lol

meager flame
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pretty much nobody has ever been mad when their supply costs are low

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its just when the bots are standing next to you at doom or zulrah or whatever that theres like

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an unacceptable problem

hasty shard
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i feel like it'd just end up like the rs3 ge where nothing actually sells

spark atlas
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related to todays update, when i use minimise minimap goes black and not minimise it

latent wyvern
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idk if its just me, but i have gotten the frog princess random twice today and both times the frog princess hasnt shown up, just the one that follows you and says "kiss the mf 4 a lamp"

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i got one recently pre-update and it was fine

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was actively doing a mahogany homes contract for one and just running through falador for the other

ember token
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do you have entity hider enabled hiding random events

hard axle
narrow folio
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Would be insane for bots to abuse

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And players wont want to pay such high prices

hasty shard
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we let sharks/anglers get to 10k then add in the rs3 excalibur spec

narrow folio
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Status quo prices is fine

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Tough supply costs deter pvmers

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Inflation would be crazy if that was a thing

hard axle
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My concern is more than lesser food won’t be used if BIS food is so cheap.

narrow folio
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Bis food is already more expensive

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Why promote such a big gap?

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That just disadvantages poorer pvmers even more

hard axle
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Warrants more folks to skill peepognomeblush

narrow folio
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Doesnt need to come at this cost

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Just gatekeeps fun

hasty shard
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skill in question: [[the shrimp and parrot]]

ornate wolfBOT
narrow folio
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If they get rid of bots, skilling output should be buffed to compensate for increased costs

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Not totally but some of it

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Its ok for some lesser food not to be used anyway Shrug for example bass is a pain to fish when karambwans are right there

hard axle
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Not okay for people to basically never use sharks if anglers are that cheap

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(Stares at 108k angler stack)

chrome lantern
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Sharks are just bad food

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Bwans are better 95% of the time

hasty shard
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shark or guthix rest

meager flame
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i mean thats just how it is in general with food

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we're going to leave stuff behind

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otherwise jagex has to maintain a crazy situation where they somehow

chrome lantern
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It's just weird to pretend like they were doing something relevant at all when they added shark lure

meager flame
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make sure that better food costs so much that you would use lesser food but also

chrome lantern
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Those are 100% only remotely useful for moon key pieces

meager flame
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give you drops that are so good that it makes sense to use the better food

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at the harder content

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which would then mean you probably mega devalue something that boss is dropping

hasty shard
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even then moon keys are afk lmao

chrome lantern
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Like they legitimately could've just deleted the manta ray drops and I think it would be better than shark lure

hasty shard
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you can just park your acc at the key fishing spot

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again though why touch mantas

meager flame
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we've just been rolling like that forever anyways with fish

hasty shard
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and not anything else

meager flame
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sharks basically replaced everything and if you wanted cheap food back in the day you had like

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depending on the era

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lobsters as the cheap food you might care about

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and then that got replaced by monkfish

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but theres always just been an incredible list of stuff we wouldn't even consider trying to buy

hasty shard
meager flame
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ya we're at the point now where its basically

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karambwans or +22 food

hasty shard
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this is my vote for the worst drop in the game balance wise

meager flame
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idk some of those bronze vard drops are insane for no reason

hasty shard
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its like the equivalent of the feather sloughing off of the dead canary in a coal mine

chrome lantern
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I don't really see a problem with "troll" drops on the dt2 tables

meager flame
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like someone just found items nobody would care about and tried to drop like 300 of them just to see your reaction drops

chrome lantern
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The overall loot is still good people just mega overreact

hasty shard
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'fun' unironically

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if i am playing a game i kind of want it to look a bit more enjoyable lol

chrome lantern
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I mean the alternative is what, just nerfing the quantities of all the other drops and making them more common?

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I think it's fine

meager flame
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it depends on what the drop is

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realistically some of the troll drops just stay on the ground and average out to 0

hasty shard
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well yeah
remove troll drops and reduce the higher values

meager flame
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it could just drop nothing in its place

hasty shard
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if you're putting 'troll' drops on a table i feel like you need to have faith in the actual drop value being what you aim for

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sure as hell doesnt work for levi 😭

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although maybe the catalyst drops are carrying it hard now idfk

chrome lantern
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Also unrelated but I missed the "u" when typing "duke suc" and I find this redirect amusing

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restive siren
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the redirects on the wiki are actually wild sometimes

ember token
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[[Nnnhhhggg. im a thirsty little flower. you have to water me you have to use your pee]]

ornate wolfBOT
chrome lantern
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Oh

torpid delta
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this is my favorite

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hasty shard
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[[Nnnhhhggg. im a thirsty little flower. you have to water me you have to use your pee_(a night at the theatre)]]

ornate wolfBOT
obsidian venture
ember token
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[[chuck]]

ornate wolfBOT
ember token
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oh wait wrong one

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[[sneed]]

ornate wolfBOT
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there we go

rain depot
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Rune Pouch update is fantastic, but would be nice for any spell loadout to just say the name without the PvP at the front

Possibly also offer some generic names like 'Ancients 1', 'Ancient 2', 'Lunar 1', etc

narrow folio
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Just use rune pouch loadouts plugin and forget this update exists

wicked sluice
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Please revert rune pouch change, I’m shocked at how annoying the change is

finite tapir
dark pecan
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is there a way to have custom names for out rune pouch loadouts?

narrow folio
sacred skiff
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The plugin doesn't seem to work since the update, unelss I just don't know what I'm doing.

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In addition to the names not showing, you can't name anything past the first setup

narrow folio
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Oh

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Well when it starts working again

hard axle
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Just let us customize our own shit...

sacred skiff
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Ideally we can just hide the name bar, and use the small one from the plugin that we can actually customize

hard axle
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entire reason why RL is so beloved is because people have their own preference

narrow folio
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Just revert the update and let us use the plugin

sacred skiff
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*but keep the expanded slot number lol

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Also more slots for seed vault/pot storage favorite and chugging barrel loadouts would be nice, js

minor whale
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I wish they would pitch ideas more before shipping some of the qol stuff

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This seems like a fairly obvious one to realize isn't what players wanted

pulsar wren
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Forreal, when i read that we'd be able to name loadouts on the rune pouch i expected to custom type a loadout name... none of the options fit the purpose of my #1 rune loadout except maybe skilling, and even then not really because its just law runes and combo runes for generic teleporting purposes.

Also, if they dont want to make loadout names customizable i'd rather see a toggle to just disable the name bar, cuz without a custom name i feel like its just in the way and makes the interface too convoluted.

meager flame
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i mean

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i hate to say it but this isn't really a "show people and see what they think" issue

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although that probably would've helped but too many people in that building play osrs

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lol its clearly less usable than the one it replaced in a lot of ways

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they should've just known

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this is the interface right

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so #1 what's currently in the pouch doesn't need to be that large

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#2 we probably dont need the banner informing everyone that what follows is a loadout

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#3 naming them would be cool but if its not going to be compact and waste that much space just cut it because its wasting space

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if you did all of that you could probably at least double how many options are on screen and it would be better than what we previously had

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you could probably make it clear what's currently in the rune pouch by having those runes at the top sized a bit differently and just change the part that says "rune pouch" to currently equipped or something along those lines

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im not really sure what they can easily do though so maybe a lot of that is some sort of technical limitation

narrow folio
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Store the pouch names locally if space is an issue

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Otherwise who knows why they did these presets

winged mantle
final frigate
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yeah saw a mockup of having like 6 or 8 of those 2x2s in that first page

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quite compact

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also showing the name on hover or right click instead of taking up space

sudden slate
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When’s HD coming out

vivid ruin
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Since when did devs add structure to menaphos?

meager flame
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i think they did a bit of work around that for sailing

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i dont think they really added much detail but it won't look too insane if you sail by

vivid ruin
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Makes sense

dusky scroll
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i dont think the minimize minimap is working as intended as it just leaves a black box there now lol

minor whale
normal temple
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and making names not visible immediately would take away from the whole point of the names existing, which is to make it easier to quickly identify the right loadout

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instead of scrolling through, seeing the name and being like "yep that's the one" you'd have to scroll through, right click or long tap or whatever just to make sure that you're looking at the right one

gray gate
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does anyone know if with the upcoming gridmaster event they will use completely blank profiles or will use same setup as leagues allowing us to show our leagues pets (and hunt for more pets on our leagues profiles)?

idle rapids
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doubtful

sudden slate
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Anyone know when they plan on dropping HD

stuck mauve
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eventually

sudden slate
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Did they give any indication about time frame?

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I know they announced it last year and said it would be somewhat available early 2025 but here we are almost at end of the year

stuck mauve
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possibly in winter 2017

sudden slate
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2017? You mean 2027

jagged marsh
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nah

round lintel
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i just noticed but this game sometimes is janky af. I had the master step where u need pharaoh scepter, i had my stash unit and my own to teleport i did the step and just now i realized the stash took my charged one and uncharged kept in my invo

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like wtf is that??

dire mango
winged mantle
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Another ploy by big camel 😂

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Oh wait it's charged with the pyramid plunder things

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You get the joke

final frigate
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if your 1 runs out it's pain going there manually

torpid delta
indigo palm
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Super excited to have more rune pouch loadouts, but could we please get an option to toggle the nameplates? They clutter the interface too much and I'd rather just be able to see more loadouts at once!

dark token
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Is it possible to change the new food behavior in pvp combat to not work in bh?

static zealot
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No game update next week is completely unacceptable, you cannot leave the rune pouch in this state for 2 weeks. This is the worst UX of any update I can think of, worse than any OG interface that got reworked. Revert the change if you have to and implement the interface rework later.

idle rapids
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I think potion storage wins worst interface but the new rune pouch can take #2

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If I wasn't an OSRS hoarder id never unlock the storage

dusk flax
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I don't hate the names for loadouts, but I do think it is way too clunky as is, not really sure why we have to choose from a list rather than just typing one ourselves

idle rapids
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its a pretty bad change when you went from seeing 4 loadouts to 2.5

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negative QOL

static zealot
# idle rapids I think potion storage wins worst interface but the new rune pouch can take #2

nah rune pouch clears for sure. Pot storage interface isn't good, but as long as you aren't trying to switch between withdrawing 1 dose potions and 4 dose potions constantly, and can tolerate being forced into alphabetical order, it's perfectly functional. The new rune pouch interface is so much worse, it lost functionality for the sake of a terribly implemented labeling feature

idle rapids
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pot storage makes it so i constantly have to toggle "always deposit potions"

static zealot
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oh it's definitely bad when training herblore, for sure

idle rapids
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Cause if I want it to work with my item tags I need to have potions banked

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Nah I mean for bossing

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if I run out of super restores and wanna replenish my bank i have to toggle that on/off

static zealot
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plugins can pull from the pot storage into tag tabs, as long as you don't also have the potion in your bank, if you exclusively use the pot storage to store pots that solves the problem

idle rapids
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I def preferred having all my pots just banked by dosage but it was too bank space intensive

idle rapids
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Sounds better than toggle on/off every time i run out of pots

static zealot
# idle rapids Do you have link to a tutorial for that plz

no but I can go look for one. but you can test it really easily, pick a loadout with a potion, put every potion of that type in your pot storage, then release the placeholder in your regular bank, and when you go back to the loadout it should be pulling from pot storage automatically

static zealot
# idle rapids Do you have link to a tutorial for that plz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0ZLd93nsWQ

Apparently the process is a little more involved when using tag tabs directly, but here's how to do it manually. I use the Inventory Setups plugin to keep track of my loadouts and that plugin automatically makes tag tabs that work with the potion storage, could also give that a try

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How to get Potion Storage working with Bank Tag Layouts (Quick & Ea...

Easy guide to get your bank tag layouts to work with the new potion storage.

  • Disable "Always deposit to potion store" in menu (top right settings)
  • Export Tag Tab with Layout (right click tab)
  • Import Tag Tab (top left +)
  • Exit Bank
  • Enable "Always deposit to potion store" in menu (top right settings)

Guides Playlist: https://www.youtub...

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idle rapids
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Yeah this is quite involved just to get a QOL thing working properly 😆 but I will get it set up at some point ty for the guide

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I also use inventory setups

static zealot
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oh you don't have to do this with inventory setups, it just works

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potent cipher
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any runelite plugins to fix the rune pouch disaster?

fossil epoch
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Not yet, but im sure it will be made

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Hopefully someone makes it so that you can just type yourself

hushed flower
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Did jagex say anything about a winter summit this year?

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they said at runefest there will be a winter summit

hushed flower
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Yo sick

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I think last year it was in september oktober no?

ember token
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that's the summer summit

hushed flower
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Aah shit really

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So theres also no summer summit?

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yep

fossil epoch
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We kinda already know what they plan to release anyway

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They might do something post sailing launch letting us know more whats in their plans until the winter summit, but i cant see that happening before sailing has been out for some weeks

ember token
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yeah there's not really anything to announce

tacit wharf
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probably get it right before dmm or right after

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which is probably feb some time

fossil epoch
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Im guessing sailing should ride out the rest of the year, probably being released in novomber to keep up with the promised autumn release launch.

Then probably Deadman in january and the vampire quest will be in february

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Could be any time though

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hard axle
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DYawning so nothing for 6 months or so

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Good good

hasty shard
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can they delay sailing

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pleae

chrome lantern
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Surprise Yama-type boss incoming maybe but we already know the autumn, winter, and spring flagship releases

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Yama-type meaning it came out of nowhere when Delve rewards got sent back to the drawing board 3 times

true talon
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Surprise arraxor like boss you mean

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that guy kinda just came out of nowhere

chrome lantern
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I guess both would work

true talon
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Would love to see a dark beast boss

restive sapphire
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Conspiracy theory is yama is supposed to come out after varlamore 3 but v3 got delayed

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Since it was initially late spring instead of july

restive sapphire
chrome lantern
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Remember when Colossal Wyrm was supposed to be us exploring the dungeon beneath the Colossal Wyrm and doing actually engaging stuff instead of an even slower and boring lap-based course, then Colossal Wyrm got delayed for months and released as garbage anyway?

hasty shard
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love how it released with dogshit amylase rates

chrome lantern
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“We’re making a course to target farm amylase and not be tied to boring lap courses” was effectively the blog and poll pitches and the released version did neither

hasty shard
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can they unnerf diary cape brimhaven agility

restive sapphire
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I think they will summit on january then runefest? late summer 2026

true talon
chrome lantern
true talon
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Ya its because they are to scared to xp creep or power creep (atleast they were) they have opened up more to it now.

chrome lantern
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Correct me if I'm wrong

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But it doesn't seem like the increased Fairy Ring rotation speed even speeds up the teleport process

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It just looks super jank and bad

half stream
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It doesn't feel like it's faster from before, even if they do spin very fast

restive siren
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they just changed that for manually clicking the wheels i think

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and just kinda forgot that basically nobody does that

narrow folio
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How about selecting from the preset options?

chrome lantern
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I have always manually clicked the wheels

half stream
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Yeah, I've also only ever manually spun the wheels

chrome lantern
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It's so much faster if you know what it is already

meager flame
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top secret content they didnt tell us about

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we're gonna hop on and grind and hit 80 in a few days and realize theres nothing we actually care about if we didn't remake to have a midgame character to do sailing with

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idk how thats going to go honestly

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maybe if they start the like

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discussion cycle for one of the seas they've yet to release almost immediately they'll distract people from it

ember token
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all the non-sailing rewards from sailing were polled because, well they’re not sailing

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everything else more tied to Sailing itself doesn’t need to be separately polled

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so there’s going to be a whole lot that’s just been left secret

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we know very little about what sailing content there will be outside of the small section of the map we had access to in the alpha/beta

zinc galleon
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I didn’t realize until today you can’t claim a diary if you haven’t done the previous ones-what’s up with that? I did the elite Ardougne diary on my 1 def pure and can’t claim it because I won’t be able to do medium and hard lol.

ember token
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correct

stuck mauve
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indubitably

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given how many diary rewards work where they scale, ex: going from 1 -> 3 -> 5 -> infinite on teleports, it wouldn't make sense to be able to get the rewards of a higher tier while skipping the earlier tiers

meager flame
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the problem with the secret stuff is

ember token
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there's certainly ways to change it so those progressive rewards are tied to the amount of tiers in a diary completed rather than tied to each specific tier but changing it is only to the benefit of restricted accounts complaining about their self-imposed restrictions

stuck mauve
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so it's like grandmaster grind

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but it's better in gm

meager flame
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i honestly dont believe it will be allowed to be very impactful outside of maybe directly sailing

stuck mauve
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cause point system

meager flame
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they probably wouldn't be comfortable not polling stuff thats actually good

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since even if they did that i might be happier but lol

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i can assure you it would spawn in tons of angry people that they're adding big impactful stuff with no vote

ember token
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well because it's all just directly sailing stuff

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they've separately polled all the big impactful stuff that isn't directly sailing

tacit wharf
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u already get angry people, no matter what one does

meager flame
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that sorta loops back around though

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if its just sailing stuff to do more sailing im not sure that will be very satisfying

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that would be like

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imagine you were leveling up to chop bigger trees for more exp but they just kept giving you yew logs

ember token
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if you're saying that you dont think all the non-directly sailing stuff they polled in the past 3 polls is enough then that's a different thing

meager flame
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ya i think if you're not a relatively mid game or earlier player that stuff kinda just isn't very interesting

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a couple fish assuming they aren't painful and a potion or two is just kinda

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flat for a whole skill

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plus those aren't even actually sailing rewards they're just a new place to do skills we already have which is good

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i think they should have those things but at some point

ember token
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i agree there doesn't seem to be enough non-sailing late-game rewards for sailing

meager flame
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they've gotta add something that really matters at least i'd hope

tacit wharf
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dragon cannon and salvagin hook (dont know if these are even able to be made with smithing or not for lower tier metals)

ember token
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for lower tier metals you'll be able to smith the plates

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or sheets

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or whatever theyre called

tacit wharf
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the sheets

meager flame
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thats another part that sounds a bit

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idk if thats really going to be fun but hopefully it feels worth it

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once you make the stuff

tacit wharf
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but no mention if you need the sheet + main item to make the station or not

ember token
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what main item

meager flame
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because it honestly sounds like get x sailing level and go slap some wyrms or dragons

tacit wharf
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the cannon/hook itself

meager flame
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until drop

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build stuff

ember token
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there isnt a cannon/hook item

tacit wharf
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coulda swore they said there was

ember token
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best hook we could make in the beta was steel which used 4 teak planks 16 steel nails 1 steel bar 1 rope 3 lead bars according to the wiki

meager flame
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i swear there was like some kind of dragon hook or something in some build but i think that was before we even knew what it could be for

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or if they were even going to use it

ember token
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only cannon we could make was bronze which was 10 bronze bars, 3 planks, 15 bronze nails

meager flame
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but either way no matter what the thing is we're building

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hopefully they just feel rewarding and worth making

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because it sounds like the process is going to be more painful than fun lol

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so the pay off is going to need to be there

ember token
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for the dragon stuff its sounding like it'll be a pain for irons and expensive for mains

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everything else is just going to using existing materials, or the new materials that you can simply just go chop some trees and mine rocks for

meager flame
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theres a lot of semi unanswered stuff from the betas where they might have made something to really fix it or maybe already planned something but we didnt know it

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like how sailing felt generally slow

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not exp wise but the actual movement outside of the trials

sacred skiff
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I’m just so unenthused by the thought of grinding a bland mob for dragon sheets to max my boat

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A slayer-boss level of engagement at least would make it totally fine if they’re set on the grind being long

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But then Husky’s like “I grinded 15k black demons for radiant oathplate, and it wasn’t fun but I don’t have an issue with that for irons”

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And when a game designer admits that something they designed wasn’t fun, in the name of defending an aspect of some upcoming content, that really inspires confidence

chrome lantern
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Yeah that's extremely disappointing

meager flame
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yeah i

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don't really want to call him out specifically because everyone should be able to have an opinion but i definitely feel like i just about never agree with anything he says about irons

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so its awkward lol

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i feel like hes kind of leaning more in the direction of how ironman worked when it was brand new

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like the "this should suck because we're ironmen" kind of mentality

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personally i just enjoy earning my own drops and kind of mapping out how i want to progress through the game and otherwise i'd just want the game to be fun so its kinda hard to agree with a lot of it

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theres tons of people on both sides of those issues some people really think the suffering is the important part and some dont lol

chrome lantern
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I think you can very reasonably play a restricted account and not just assume everything is going to suck balls

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Some stuff might be annoying sure but it shouldn’t be explicitly designed that way

meager flame
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ya i cant get too mad at it because regardless of what people say

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the game has definitely been making a direct line away from that kind of game design from basically the very start of iron

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so i dont have much to complain about

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its kinda weird to hear it though

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so even if they kinda fail irons with sailing and go in that direction

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if everything else that happens is anything to go by they'll turn right around and end up making it easier and nerfing stuff until its more reasonable

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making the game people play for enjoyment suck just because will never last

fossil epoch
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There is some line in the sand you have to draw though.
Its not uncommon for some pures to ask for basicly all restrictions being removed from the account type, to a point where it feels like, why even then.
"Let us complete every single quest without getting xp"
"Remove def requirement from these items"
"Let us revert xp gain, when we made a mistake"

Some newer irons are for sure asking something similar, just gotta be sure you dont cross too many lines to fast

meager flame
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I think thats kinda easy though in a way

fossil epoch
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Oh i dont think its too hard, its just not doing certain kind of updates

meager flame
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Like using sailing as an example i dont think anyone would be wanting to obtain everything with no opposition 1kc drops etc

fossil epoch
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But some groups will ask for them

meager flame
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But

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On the other hand killing generic npcs for several dragon metal sheets at absurd drop rates when theres no engaging or enjoyable gameplay involved is like

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Just not a fun video game

fossil epoch
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Personally i didnt like they just put all the dragon sheet builds onto 1 item and that item onto 1 mob.
But its still a skill, so locking something like that behind a boss would also be kinda miss matching with a non combat skill requirement bosses to make progression

meager flame
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Its just one of those times where I feel like im playing muh economy scape if that even makes sense

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Theyre just doing anything to justify these perhaps unnecessary npcs and trying to inflate their value

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Its one of those times where idk if the motivation behind it all really makes sense

fossil epoch
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No for sure, locking all dragon type upgrade on the boat to frost dragons doesnt feel right.
Should probably have locked a single dragon thing like the dragon cannon perhaps behind the dragon
and then the dragon hull behind some like mining thing on an island etc, spread out the things

meager flame
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Like how id want to see it all happen is they think up some like

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Engaging new npcs that you want to fight because its fun and different

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And then they figure out a neat drop or whatever for it

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But this feels like generic dragon 47 atm with a forced drop to make it make sense lol

fossil epoch
#

indeed

shadow wave
#

These two enemies dropping sheets are supposed to make them good money makers for higher level slayer, not be the only source

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Also Frost Dragons will rarely drop superior dragon bones so it's also good for money and irons

median wing
#

dont strykyrms also drop metal sheets

nocturne solstice
#

Yeah i remember those strykewyrms dropping em too

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We only see 2 but there'll probably be a lot more drop sources. They just havent announced em yet.

hasty shard
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irons are kind of a canary in the coal mine for 'actually interacting with content'

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something can be fun and still take as long

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unless its aerial fishing because that really should be equal to drift net imo lol

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needing 91 fishing + 87 hunter to get like 50k/h spam clicking is so dumb lol

rare frost
hasty shard
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and yama stuff was designed economy-wise and is a microcosm of 'this is the opposite of what we asked for'

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what was the droprate increase of contracts again wasn't it literally like 18x

rare frost
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fwiw, outside of the initial contract shenanigans i think yama is one of the best drop tables created

hasty shard
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yama's own droptable is like. balanced pretty okay i think

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i dont like shards being such consistent value but besides that

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it was so funny when the blog implied yama would just drop like 50k fire runes at one point (which was not true)

rare frost
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it drops like 20k rarely tbf

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but stuff like the draconic visage imo is very healthy, and yet irons hate it because its hard to target farm

chrome lantern
hasty shard
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the dragon grind is genuinely the main thing that puts me off of doing an iron

compact flicker
chrome lantern
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Imbued heart though yeah

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That one’s a different story

rare frost
hasty shard
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just christ its deeply unfun having to do like 16kc trips of an enemy 1000+ times over how do people stand this lmao

chrome lantern
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Why don’t we lock the only viable magic boosting item behind tens of millions of xp of the worst form of engaging with the slowest skill in the game?

hasty shard
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i cannot give a fuck about bone prices just make bonesack hold these things 😭

rare frost
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i agree on d pick though

compact flicker
rare frost
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it should never have been added outside of wildy, chaos ele is now left with literally zero uniques

chrome lantern
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I used them for 450 whisperer kills, the one place they have the fewest downsides

compact flicker
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Yup, bit of a process to maintain them

chrome lantern
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And they still suck

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Maintaining them sucks, using them sucks, everything about them sucks

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Wanna have a boosted magic level at PNM? Sorry, your melee stats are drained

compact flicker
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When they released an upgrade to the imbued heart I kept reading the blog in hopes that they also allowed you to target farm it, but no.

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Tilting but not game breaking, just very tilting

chrome lantern
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Like you can get away with them at Muspah or Whisperer or something like scorpia/callisto I guess

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But on top of it they don’t even have a divine version

hasty shard
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i want the mobs from that one slayer game jam to just outright have heart as a super rare secondary

chrome lantern
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So forgotten brews just

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Really, really, really

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Suck

rare frost
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heart was a mistake

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it just makes no sense to remove consumables and replace it with a 100m drop

chrome lantern
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In hindsight TDs are so extremely boring I would hate if they had done that

hasty shard
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like if mage prisons / monkdemons are decently difficult to kill you'd have a grind similar to tonsils in colo

rare frost
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also whilst here can we remove 1-2 things from cox?

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that table is still too big

hasty shard
compact flicker
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They can add heart to a boss at 1/20,000 if they want to. Just give us a way to target farm feelsroqman

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Must say though, the recent slayer block list changes are nice to chase superior tasks

rare frost
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slayer in general is a janky poorly designed skill that turns out to be kinda fun but thats another story

compact flicker
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My favorite skill tbh

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Enables so much content

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(pvm content)

rare frost
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none of which needed to be slayer gated

chrome lantern
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The issue is that even doing max eff heart hunting still sucks because it’s the only way to hunt it and slayer tasks in general are atrociously unenjoyable

rare frost
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and could have just been regular bosses

chrome lantern
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I don’t think anything about slayer is enjoyable at any stage of the skill and I have almost 40m slayer xp across my accounts

mortal imp
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The moonkey teeth drop rate from frost crab was updated to 1/1354 in septembre 10 update. I call BS. I have 2400 kill so far and 0 moon key. Thats crazy

chrome lantern
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I engage with it as required to get stuff on my iron but despise every moment of it

rare frost
compact flicker
chrome lantern
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Slayer’s biggest problem is that it doesn’t even really seem like a skill but more like a minigame or one specific training method of a skill

rare frost
chrome lantern
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Like how Hunter Rumors are just one way tk do Hunter

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But Slayer tasks are the skill and all the slayer bosses are gatekept behind tasks

rare frost
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it could easily have been an activity, in fact slayer points make more sense than slayer xp

mortal imp
chrome lantern
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Black mask bonus existing means that if you ever can kill something on-task, you’re absolutely trolling not to

chrome lantern
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On top of that, even with block lists and task storage, you still have very little control over how you actually engage with Slayer

mortal imp
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Tell me a number of kills where you would be concern about the drop rate

rare frost
chrome lantern
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Nah

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Higher

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Like 10k

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It’s very reasonable to go 3x as well

rare frost
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ive peronsally gone 7x rate twice for grinds

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it happens

chrome lantern
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My average Hydra task took me like 3 months when going for claw because of how atrociously soul-crushingly boring Hydra is

rare frost
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and worse your slayer level has far less contribution to xp/hr than gear and combats

chrome lantern
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Even after they made Task Storage viable to use, that just meant I could do slayer for like idk a few hours until I now had two hydra tasks stored

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Also barraging just isn’t really a fun gameplay loop and going for xp or heart at anywhere near a reasonable rate essentially requires it since 95% of slayer tasks are completely garbage that I wouldn’t touch with a 90 foot pole

rare frost
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if the most efficient way to train the skill is to have 2 alts stack mobs for you to afk attack you know theres an issue

idle rapids
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well good that isn't the most efficient way to train

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nechwarking is more efficient feelsgoodman

chrome lantern
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Adding on top of these issues, we also see that the highest-tier slayer master (Duradel) assigns a ton of useless things with no slayer level req (like Kalphites and trolls) and literally doesn’t even assign the highest-level slayer master (hydras)

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Overall in general the task-hunting system in general as the only way of engaging with slayer just sucks

idle rapids
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oh wait you were talking about slayer not combat, okay you're right alting definitely makes you more efficient

rare frost
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slayer needs another fundamental training method besides tasks

idle rapids
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That would be quite nice

rare frost
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but it cant because it has such a narrow identity

chrome lantern
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And the skill at large just super sucks unless you love barraging and turael skipping or don’t mind the 95% of garbage useless tasks that are slowly killing things in single combat without any notable loot

idle rapids
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No slayer dmg % buff from the tasks or everyone would complain

rare frost
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ngl it needs a minigame where you track something down or make specialised weapons or something

chrome lantern
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I’ll be real I think the two biggest issues with slayer are the task lists and task hunting as a concept being horrible and the black mask bonus existing at all

rare frost
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black mask is fine, but it should never have been allowed for bosses

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it ruins speedrunning forever

idle rapids
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I think its good for a short gameplay loop, hunter rumors did it right

chrome lantern
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Nah I think black mask itself is an issue tbh

idle rapids
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You can get a task but its not the whole skill

chrome lantern
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Like if you ever can kill something on task you’re trolling yourself to kill it off-task because of black mask

rare frost
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tbf mask makes all helms kinda worthless

chrome lantern
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Look at zammy and arma gwd, look at TDs, look at gorillas, look at DKs

rare frost
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i like task only drop rate increases though

idle rapids
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More varied equipment usage prob

chrome lantern
rare frost
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no set effect is every as good as 15% damage except maybe justi

idle rapids
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Because of the slayer helm there's less reason to just camp full sets of the same thing

chrome lantern
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Another factor on black mask is that all the slayer-only bosses are already balanced around assuming you have it because you literally can only fight them on-task

rare frost
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or theres zero reason to ever buy a mage helm

idle rapids
rare frost
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not really

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its only ranged you use unless you are a noob

idle rapids
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oh okay i thought thats the one raid where void rlly shines

chrome lantern
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Elite void has specific uses:
-ToB ranging
-Doom of Mokhaiotl deep delving
-Throwing chins for training
-Vorkath with DHCB and high ranged level
-idk training on crabs maybe

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That’s pretty much it

rare frost
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melee is never used anywhere

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except pvp

chrome lantern
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Mage void is also useless since they added %dmg to low tier mage gear

idle rapids
chrome lantern
rare frost
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masori

chrome lantern
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Explicitly does not apply

idle rapids
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They only have 10 HP though dont you want as much accuracy as possible

chrome lantern
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Well if you want more accuracy void is your worst choice

rare frost
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void is the damage guynot the acc guy

chrome lantern
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And the void damage bonus doesn’t apply to chompies

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For whatever reason

restive siren
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anyone else having some stashes not take equipped items?

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setting is turned on

shadow wave
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It prioritises your inventory, possible you had a duplicate item?

restive siren
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nop

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wildy elite, rolling pin spotted cape and dhide

obsidian venture
obsidian venture
hasty shard
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void melee hurts me so much

obsidian venture
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It’s fine if no scythe and on low def stuff

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Or pking really

hasty shard
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scythe dif ye

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thats why it hurts kekw

obsidian venture
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For 1h weapons it’s barely a fuck all upgrade till maybe torva if using 1h

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People think melee gear in general scales or something 🤣

hasty shard
chrome lantern
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Just looked at the Grid Master teasers, I already feel like this is going to be better than Leagues if these keep panning out

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Considering the last two leagues have just been boring region locks

obsidian venture
tawny tide
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Is leagues cord chatting about grid master

meager flame
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did they not change lumberjack or power miner

zealous charm
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I'm assuming this has been brought up, but in case it hasn't...love the new amount of loadouts we can have with the rune pouch, but the naming mechanic leaves one wanting. Not sure what the possibility of custom names are or if we can just have a better selection. For example, "Thralls", is entirely missing from the list of names.

meager flame
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ya it has been lol

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people have basically slaughtered everything about the ux related to that update

sacred oracle
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I think it's a step in the right direction, but I also feel the update needs to cook a bit more

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I'm hopeful we'll either get more features for it in official client of or the rune pouch plugin for RL will be updated

meager flame
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i think they had good ideas that were implemented poorly to the point that its probably a downgrade at the moment

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but would be a big upgrade

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if they fix it

sacred oracle
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The part of this week's update I really liked was depositing worn items into stash units

meager flame
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i say probably because if you're someone that actually needed that many loadouts its probably better than nothing

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but

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if you used like a few

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its definitely worse now lol

chrome lantern
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Disappointed that the worn items stash thing doesn’t have any considerations for the pyramid plunder stash

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Considering you can fill that one with the outfit without needing to deposit the scepter, meaning one less scepter needed

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On a main you can just buy another one but no shot am I grinding another on iron

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So instead the options are to drop your scepter or toggle the setting every time lmao

bronze imp
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i think either let us name the rune loadouts ourselves or just remove the naming altogether to condense the ui

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its actually really bad in its current state

kind surge
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just have the names show up when hovering over (or long pressing on mobile) the loadout tbh

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let us see the dropdown only when saving a loadout

median wing
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i liked the old fairy ring turning animation that took 10 business days to go around

nocturne solstice
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I like the current one but that might be because I actually use the ring sometimes and not just the log CringeHarold

chrome lantern
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I always click the letters and it feels way worse now because it’s just stupid looking fast but doesn’t actually make the teleport happen sooner

mild saddle
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i never felt the old one was slow tbh

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i think people just waited for it when they didn't have to

narrow folio
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i type the sequence in the box then select the sequence ont he right

boreal crest
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This fairy ring update is making me nauseous

merry verge
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I think the right way, as usual, would be the middle way. Old spinning was too slow, now it's too fast (visually). Slow speed back down a notch to be between the old and the new, and I think it'd be pretty good 🙂

merry sage
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Are we stuck with the naming of Rune Pouch loadouts? Or will there be an option to toggle the Naming off but keeping the 10x Loadout options. The naming of the setups is super unessecary and its way to chunky?

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Would be nice if there was a way to remove the naming parts in options or something.

sterile breach
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is there going to be a game update that fixes the extra 30ms overhead lag that is on US west worlds? this has been going on FOR TOO LONG now, and there is no word even about it?? sometimes its 230 (rarely), most of the time, 255-260ms, what is going on??

stuck mauve
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||is there going to be a game update that fixes the extra 30ms overhead lag that is on US west worlds? this has been going on FOR TOO LONG now, and there is no word even about it?? sometimes its 230 (rarely), most of the time, 255-260ms, what is going on??||

compact flicker
bronze kernel
west wadi
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Scrap sharklure and just replace is with spirit flakes, if they want to reduce the amount to make Temp still attractive then that's fine. At the moment these shark lure might as well just be fishing bait.

sharp cave
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its truly baffling how much of a fuck up the runepouch ui is

sacred skiff
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Pls let us toggle showing the names at least, they’re not relevant and take up so much space. Would rather hide them than free-type them, even, so I could just see 4 setups at a time again

sudden slate
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Does anyone know when HD is coming out

ember token
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no release date has been given

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they said they wanted to have it out before or with Sailing ideally, and Sailing is gonna be in less than 2 months now

sudden slate
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Oh shit hahahaha

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Ok

ember token
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doesn't mean that we'll be getting HD within the next 2 months, I wouldn't be surprised if it was delayed

sudden slate
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No yeah I’m sure it will be delayed tho

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Probs won’t be out till 2026

ember token
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probably, especially since we've heard basically nothing since they put out the beta for the new renderer

minor whale
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Yeah the non-hd renderer is so buggy I've got big doubts hd will be coming this year

round lintel
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can we get an update that in agility courses ur next action gets queue after certain point? sometimes u spam click the next part of the course an d your character would not do it

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is so horrible

fresh star
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Why wont the "Mysterious Stranger" not buy my hallowed items back.
My stupid ass just bougt a dube hallowed ring insted of a token.

nocturne solstice
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maybe he doesnt want it

fresh star
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i need some a fail-safe.. "you already have this item, are you sure you want another?" 🙂

unreal copper
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the chompy bird hat interface is still broken. items don't show up in collection log but when used on log "your collection log has already accounted for that item". have filed in game report on update day.

round lintel
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I thought the deposit items in stash when worn was added this wed

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but it never works for me

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am i supposed to only be wearing those items for it to work?

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Not even

restive siren
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Need to turn on a setting

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Its dumb

round lintel
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Thats why

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Thought I just misread or they backtracked

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Should have added the same with rune pouch ui

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is horrible af

restive siren
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It should be turned on by default

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90% of players wont ever know this even exists

winged mantle
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The fill x with cannon is bugged. It loads how many you have selected but only fires when you click fire - which loads the Max amount... The load x only works if the cannon is already firing and doesn't if it's stopped 😂

vague musk
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SUGGESTION:

add most bh armour to "Justine's stuff for the Last Shopper Standing" shop

WHY:

bc not everyone is good at veng / will help remove gp from game

obsidian venture
vague musk
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ty

glad ibex
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Tithe patch should just use the seed rather then having to click the seed and the patch

nocturne solstice
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I feel that sounds flipped...

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Should just click the patch not the seed. If you could plant by just spam clicking the seed in your inventory that would be nuts

chrome lantern
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I agree

meager flame
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a lot of the game could use a lot of work with things like that

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im not really sure how to go about pointing it out like everywhere though but

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typically they're somewhat bad at figuring out exactly what people are trying to do or how they're trying to use things its why menu entry swapper is a big deal in the first place

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you can use it for a lot of niche efficiency things but the largest use is just fixing obvious weird stuff that doesn't make any sense when you stop and think about it

slender vapor
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Yep

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Menu entry swapper just let's you selectively unfuck some of the awful decisions made when jagex makes things

glad ibex
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Yea but tithe patch doesn't allow any option.... let me plant the "seed" your in a mini game and you have to either use maple log or yew. But you just press the button if you have multiple options you get promoted those options. If not then you use yew. (The new totem pole mini game.) If I have one I should be allowed to click the one. If they wanted to further build on this then again if planting a seed give a option to plant higher first than lower. We already do this mechanic in so many other options it weather prompted or not. Next time run to a tree with both rune and dragon and it automatically uses the best option.

nocturne solstice
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Im not really sure what you're talking about there

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I dont understand the relevance of maple logs or yew logs either

soft flume
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Just a question for this grid master event, do you we keep the upgrades?

still sundial
hallow girder
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Bring back splinters to doom

main kestrel
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do we know if grid master is going to get a 1 month membership discount like how leagues get a cheaper 2-3 month one

obsidian venture
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Shoutout to the turtle winning

nocturne solstice
marsh oxide
chrome lantern
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Tragic to see everything pass poll as always

winged mantle
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I voted no to the wyrms and frost dragons

wide garnet
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Why's it tragic if the majority wants it tho?

chrome lantern
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I voted no to everything except hopper (which should be +4 uncharged and only use charges for yield, like the celestial ring), total level world questions, bank space, and medallion

chrome lantern
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It’s another reason that nostalgia baiting ported content is so bad

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People see thing and vote yes without actually thinking about it

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The number of people that I know that literally just blanket vote yes on everything without reading it at all is disconcerting and I have no confidence in the polling system

distant knot
chrome lantern
wide garnet
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Araxxor

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You both have points tbf

chrome lantern
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Because every single one so far has been pretty mediocre at the absolute best

chrome lantern
# wide garnet Araxxor

A completely different fight that still has its own problems but would be better off designed and titled as something completely different and not just copying the name

wide garnet
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People reading is an issue in the entire world, if's not even remotely unique to our game and our games democracy

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But it's true

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And sad.

chrome lantern
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Oh I’m aware it just feels pointless to even have an opinion when Jagex caters to 1k total redditors and the one or two most vocal youtubers and polls mean nothing

wide garnet
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I've never had more fun on the game than recently though, so I trust a lot of what they're doing

chrome lantern
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There’s been a lot of awful stuff lately imo

wide garnet
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Like what?

chrome lantern
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WGS/TDs, Mixology, Moons, Varlamore p2/3 quests (the final fight was good but the lore/rest of the quest sucked)

wide garnet
distant knot
chrome lantern
marsh oxide
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Moons bad is quite the take

chrome lantern
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Moons is probably the single worst PvM content in the entire game

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Without exaggeration

wide garnet
chrome lantern
wide garnet
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Oh god I couldn't disagree more that it's bad

chrome lantern
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It’s bad content with disproportionately powerful rewards with an abysmally low skill ceiling

chrome lantern
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Synapses are the only good thing to come from WGS

wide garnet
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Aren't they better gorillas?

chrome lantern
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The quest itself might be the single worst-written, forced, and contrived quest in the game

distant knot
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They are definitely better gorillas, far less annoying

chrome lantern
wide garnet
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Moons is a gateway to a lot of mechanics later on and shepherds in mid-gamers to understand core late game concepts

chrome lantern
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They’re slow, boring hp sponges that punish you heavily for not having already gotten synapses and have extremely rare drops

marsh oxide
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average no voter i guess

wide garnet
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Yes, the gear is strong, but it doesn't break endgame metas

chrome lantern
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Moons doesn’t really teach anything specific that’s actually relevant

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Find me another boss where you stand in a circle

green pewter
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Royal titans

chrome lantern
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Scurrius is way better for teaching

distant knot
chrome lantern
chrome lantern
wide garnet
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You've gotta approach it from a midgamer or new player my dude. You're real deep in the endgame efficiency I fear

chrome lantern
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We see the same issue with fang and shadow at ToA

chrome lantern
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Some of it sucks

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Even people new to PvM tend to hate moons after 50-100 kc

dire mango
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There is a big difference between "viable" and "faster". Bosses/raids dropping something that is really good for that encounter is not inherently bad.

wide garnet
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I mean, midgame content isn't supposed to be max engagement at all times. It can't push the ceiling too high, though? It's a modern barrows

chrome lantern
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Then why is it worse than barrows lmao

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You spend the majority of the time not even touching the bosses

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Just waiting or running between rooms

wide garnet
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Barrows is just the* hp sponge you mentioned earlier with nothing but prayer drain

dire mango
wide garnet
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You run, dig, click, wait. It's not bad, but not completely fun. Almost everything in this game has an element of downtime (we won't talk about doom, or levi having auto respawn tho...)

chrome lantern
wide garnet
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That's objectively not true, mate

chrome lantern
distant knot
wide garnet
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Levis auto resawn not doom

hard axle
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the rewards are kinda jank, but apt for where they come from feelsroqman

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Don’t like stab zombie axe though

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Which pet won btw

soft igloo
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Is there a max level for each skill?

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Or is it infinite?

obsidian venture
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99

main kestrel
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99

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xp keeps going until 200m tho for leaderboard purposes

obsidian venture
#

Even when farming one boss for a bingo and at max eff, it was a slog

hard axle
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Yep

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Running to Chest room and back was longer than killing boss

obsidian venture
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Terrible design

hard axle
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And that’s with 0 supplying (I brought everything)

obsidian venture
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Ye

restive siren
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I mean you are entitled to your opinion i just dont think you represent the majority. Maybe in the case of moons, most long term or higher end players dont enjoy that place but ive seen plenty of new and casual players enjoy it too. Gear wise, power creep at every level of the game is inevitable. You can argue they went too far with this one and while i dont agree, i respect that

WGS is maybe bad if you are really into lore like you are but lets be honest thats not a ton of people and gameplay wise that quest was very good. Not too much of an opinion on that one honestly but ive not seen widespread hate in here or on reddit

TDs is probably the one where you are most out of touch imo, i have literally seen nothing but universal hatred for gorillas. TDs have more interesting mechanics, reward bringing different weapons, punish, have cool CAs, drop very useful gear and most importantly you dont need to 6 way switch every 3 seconds which is where the general loathing of gorillas comes from. Like in every conversation i see about those there is one person enjoying gorillas out of 20. @chrome lantern

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In the end its fine to stand up for your opinions so continue doing so, it just sometimes comes off a bit too ranty and unproductive

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On the topic of the slayer votes, someone said that probably a lot of people dont even get nostalgia baited because they didnt even see those in rs2/rs3, as one of those people i didnt see a reason to vote no there? Is there something objectively wrong about them i missed?

obsidian venture
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I mean etube is def in the minority but he has valid critiques on stuff. They really should stop porting stuff and kinds rack their brains a bit and introduce new original content

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Tds is also a slog but drops some insane weapon upgrades. One benefit of TDS is the access you get to other bosses once you get a synapse, but that makes me question the progression order

restive siren
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I mean is it fair to call it backporting? Bosses are completely different, slayer mobs seem to have different mechanics and drops from what ive seen, quests are completely rewritten etc? If you dont like them using the name for nostalgia bait fair enough but the backporting argument doesnt really hit if its nothing like the original to begin with

obsidian venture
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Another good thing, if people choose to do so (they won’t), is to actually practice switching at tds. It’s long hp threshold, even in max, allows you to do a minimum of 3 hits before switching overheads

smoky fjord
restive siren
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tootle