game-update

[sonic saffron]

yea rip

[lament peak]

😭

[remote kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/grass-gif-12587352171248068863

[austere escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/pirate-sabastian-legacies-gif-21836937

[somber marsh]

Let’s just program our own OSRS to play on smart fridge ez pz right PSoftware?

[lone hull]

Yes but he is also crashing too

[last onyx]

thx again for the poh support for the 99 prayer today🙏

[somber marsh]

Np

[remote kindle]

was that you that got 99?

[last onyx]

gangi yeah lmao

[vivid ruin]

I figured. Didn't know he played. Some might say karma

[vestal jetty]

@fading token oi fix ur lagg i just died at yama u own me 500k fix ur game!!!!

[sonic saffron]

guys

[last onyx]

hush was the other dude

[sonic saffron]

dont do anything with risk rn

should go without saying

[knotty herald]

i'm gonna throw snowballs at him

[lethal plinth]

Avoid dangerous activities until further notice.

[remote kindle]

ofc, always here to help the and support the community when i can

[last onyx]

Legend

[obsidian finch]

pirate haters going hard rn

[junior kettle]

🙂

[jagged marsh]

wtf does piratesoftware have to do with this other than he plays WoW

attention seeking behavior

[obsidian finch]

hes playing osrs rn

[sacred oracle]

what does piratesoftware have to do with anything at all?

[jagged marsh]

well no one is playing osrs rn are they

[sacred oracle]

i am missing the lore

[jagged marsh]

literally nothing

[tall plaza]

There all playing rs right now lol

[olive mirage]

damn he didnt like me calling him a whiney sucktard and we dont want him

[obsidian finch]

well he was, when i check his stream 5 mins ago

[vivid ruin]

He tried cursing stop canceling games

[lethal plinth]

herd mentality these days is to hate on him for everything

[sacred oracle]

i have no idea who he is

[timid goblet]

He's boring is what

[sonic saffron]

aws is down too

[olive mirage]

he is the most hated guy on the internet right now

[remote kindle]

Go try and log in. im on and everything seems normal for the moment

[sacred oracle]

i have no idea who he is, so that seems untrue

[olive mirage]

https://www.twitch.tv/piratesoftware

[obsidian finch]

probably wont log in until osrs tweets something

[lament peak]

ok that's a better explanation

[sacred oracle]

i think someone more famous would be the most hated guy on the internet

[olive mirage]

idk how unless your head is stuck in the dirt. meatcannon made a clip about him

[hasty shard]

people are lolcowing

[stiff thorn]

FALADOR riot in 302 bois!!!!!!!!!---

[torn crystal]

how is he still loggedin?

[remote kindle]

servers are acting normal again i have no leg and fps is normal and ping

[sacred oracle]

i have no idea who meatcannon is

[obsidian finch]

his dad works at jagex

[sacred oracle]

i can't tell if you're joking or if you really think these are broadly famous people that most people know

[obsidian finch]

80% of people in this discord probably knows who he is

[left ridge]

not a clue who meatcannon is myself who is he

[analog crow]

Never heard of him

[obsidian finch]

and its meatcanyon on cannon

[olive mirage]

idk why youre trying to play mister cool guy and act like you dont know lmao. get over yourself clown

[analog crow]

I don’t know these Z-list celebs

[sacred oracle]

act like i don't know? i really don't know

[olive mirage]

ok buddy

[sacred oracle]

this has been a very puzzling interaction

[left ridge]

so basically you dont know either

[lament peak]

most hated guy on the internet to the absolute losers who have access to ddos tools and botnets lmao

[junior kettle]

Why not make the pharaoh scepter's teleport with regular names instead of jeolstapahlza?

Agility pyramid, Pyramid plunder, Amascut and Pyramid

[gleaming horizon]

There’s a plug-in for that

[junior kettle]

I want

[analog crow]

Wait till you see ancient spellbook teleports

[gleaming horizon]

“Easy teleports” iirc

[olive mirage]

what crack are you smokingh

[junior kettle]

Those I know and used for while I know by heart

[terse rose]

meatcannon? is that like meatspin?

[left ridge]

not the same shit as you clearly

[analog crow]

you can also learn the sceptre names

[sacred oracle]

it's for game flavor, i think, but it ends up kind of being a nuisance, which is why Easy Teleports is a nice plugin: it replaces weird names with straightforward ones you'll recognize, e.g.,

[olive mirage]

lmao you're delulu kid. sit

[junior kettle]

Mo go grab

[left ridge]

bless your little socks kid

[vivid ruin]

No idea who meatcannon is

[analog crow]

Please tell me you’re trolling

[civic oriole]

ya'll, the channel is for game updates... can you debate meatcanyon and Piratecrybaby in offtopic or something >.>

[olive mirage]

weirdo, why you blessing kids socks? creepo

[left ridge]

😄

i give you that one

kudos for trying though kid

[olive mirage]

lmao kuddos to you trying to act like you won something??

[left ridge]

not really youre just a pathetic swine thats not worth arguing with

[austere escarp]

pirate just went to 392 go pk him XD

[olive mirage]

ok buddy boo. not my fault you just suck

[sacred oracle]

could we knock it off and get back to talking about game updates please? there's no reason to be insulting each other

[left ridge]

not my fault your dad doesnt want you but its okay im here for you would you like to talk

[terse rose]

you guys can flirt privately!

[left ridge]

that sounds hot

[thorny linden]

we on

?

[left ridge]

getting there i think

[sacred oracle]

i have logged in for five minutes

i might get to ten!

[left ridge]

w2 seems alright so far

[sacred oracle]

i'm on 616 and it seems fine at the moment

update: nm i can't click anything now

[somber marsh]

Who here plays like 13 hours per day

[left ridge]

me

13 hours a day is xp waste though

23 is better

fuck sleeping though

[sacred oracle]

17 hours a day is the sweet spot

[round lintel]

I afk in the bank for 13 hrs a day

[sacred oracle]

23 is too much

[oblique sage]

its time to touch a bit a of grass now that the servers are down 🙂

[left ridge]

i dont have a bank

[somber marsh]

Praise white helm

[left ridge]

yes praise us

[sonic saffron]

imagine logging on to just waste xp in 302 falador

[left ridge]

rip

[analog crow]

Ummm

Deathbank

[woeful hearth]

imagine not being 200m xp on every skill

[left ridge]

never used it

[analog crow]

The legendary hcuim

[round lintel]

I think its happening only on west coast servers

[left ridge]

ive died a few times

but i avoid it if i can

i dont run around with much

[analog crow]

I appreciate the honesty

[left ridge]

but got some alright stats should have really considering i put some disgusting hours into it

my lowest skills are rc and herb

[analog crow]

My lowest is slayer rn

[left ridge]

yeye whats your slayer level

[analog crow]

82

[cunning glade]

keep dcing wtf

[obsidian venture]

Actually whotf tho

[left ridge]

fucking nice

you a whitey as well?

[obsidian venture]

Saw the name pop up over the last few days

Guessing he has some history

[analog crow]

No I’m a main 😔

[left ridge]

ah

banks are for noobs

[analog crow]

Real

[hasty shard]

tl;dr guy who was a janitor at blizzard who claims to know a lot about coding (makes an unfinished undertale clone), gets popular streaming and proceeds to grief a wow raid and ego it so now everyone hates him

[obsidian venture]

Insane comms for a uim 😭

[obsidian venture]

Ah so an old wow player

Or coder whatever

[hasty shard]

grummz is more credible unironically

[buoyant sandal]

when game going to be working fine?

[obsidian venture]

I’ve heard of grummz

[hasty shard]

im sorry for your loss

[obsidian venture]

But only due to him complaining about some new game or something

[left ridge]

fuck knws

[obsidian venture]

Idk meat cannon either

[left ridge]

w2 seems alright

but its full af

[tacit wharf]

naw didnt grief, he was told to bail, so he bailed

party leaders fault

[hasty shard]

im certain thats the consensus

[warm current]

It's truely his immersurable ego that causes him problems

[obsidian venture]

Ego and is bad?

[warm current]

and cheats at puzzle games to look smart

[left ridge]

the shit ones always have egos

[obsidian venture]

Or just too much ego regardless

I see

[hasty shard]

i cant think of a meatcanyon comparison that is adequate enough

[left ridge]

basically someone whos shit and self reflects

[hasty shard]

like i'd say pilotredsun but thats a diff vibe

[warm current]

also he has a long problematic history before he was known from secondlife scamming and griefing

[hasty shard]

same for cyber 8

[obsidian venture]

Dunno who that is either lmao

[hasty shard]

doesnt know grinch's ultimatum wtf.,.

[obsidian venture]

Nope

[warm current]

if you type his name on youtube you basically get thousands of hours of explinations of why people dont like him

[obsidian venture]

Fair enough

Only mmo I’ve played is osrs

If that says anything

[left ridge]

ive played a few mmos

rs is the only one ive stuck with

[stuck mauve]

it's a boomer reference that no one gets

[hasty shard]

😭 boomer

[stuck mauve]

ok zoomer then

[hasty shard]

for youtube videos

zoomer yeah

[stuck mauve]

whichever

true...

[vocal sand]

Perfect time to ma2 cape on the hardcore guys

[left ridge]

gl

[hasty shard]

actual zoomer and not 'gen a but people call it zoomer'

[primal trout]

OSRS crashed?

[vivid ruin]

Now that i looked up meatcanyon, i now know 1 of hus videos

[analog crow]

Felonius bolus type beat

[primal trout]

GG WOW is attacking us

[unborn fern]

bro lol

[ruby marten]

Get to the turrets defend the servers

[earnest marsh]

Sailing engine changes*

Update today was possibol the reason?

[terse rose]

thanks pfizer

[stuck mauve]

a possibol parabol

[nocturne elk]

defend ur servers guys!

we want to play!

catch they hackers

https://tenor.com/view/catching-fail-catch-friends-tumble-ouch-gif-14154302

https://tenor.com/view/reasonsimbroke-samuel-l-jackson-samuel-jackson-jurassic-park-hacker-gif-24139258

[vivid ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-screaming-cat-scream-meme-red-eyes-gif-26345204

[heavy ledge]

Damn this is like the perfect time to be out of town with mems expired

[mint marten]

Is it fixed yet

[rain bone]

Havent dc'd for awhile now

[steel zephyr]

Has there been a release date for the slayer master update?

[dire mango]

No, late aug/early sep

[lament peak]

https://tenor.com/view/cool-fun-white-cat-dance-cool-and-fun-times-gif-2222719549739477507

[bright tapir]

1 hour and 20 minutes post server crash update when?

[vivid ruin]

Rollbacks when

[sharp cave]

if they unalch all my alchables i will shit myself

[heavy ledge]

Are you implying you normally don’t shit yourself?

[sharp cave]

https://tenor.com/view/waltergotme-gif-18867690

[rapid palm]

I'm still getting lag spikes thats making me die in delve its not fully fixed yet

[vast granite]

they dont care enough

its been going on for hours

[remote kindle]

I'm not having any problem other then there isnt enough people on to buy my prayer pots so i can make more

[oblique mesa]

Of course! Caring is the one thing network devs forget to do when fixing network issues. Its so simple!

[toxic cypress]

They are literally working on it

You think getting DDoSed is fixed within minutes? 👀

[vast granite]

yeah and im working on it too

[tacit wharf]

well shoot, let me just go tell them that caring is how they fix it

[olive hawk]

I mean it's 11pm here in the UK I dont expect many of them are able to work

[last onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/so-good-wink-smile-oh-yeah-its-true-gif-24163876

[remote kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/time-is-of-essence-here-cody-harris-the-cowboy-way-time-time-is-essential-here-gif-17861662

[vast granite]

time is money. server uptime = credibility a billion dollar company shouldn't take this long just saying

[tacit wharf]

plz inform us how one goes about fixing a ddoss attack

[vast granite]

have a dedicated team of cyber security round the clock with implemented countermeasures ik they can afford it

whys it taking 6 hours

[tacit wharf]

wow, so even with amazons and other big corps got hit and were down for just about a whole day (during peak hours), their cyber security team must of all been out to lunch and playing table tennis

[vast granite]

reset the entire server put all traffic to a redudant server where the attack isnt happening

If Jagex moved half as fast fixing servers as you guys do typing excuses for them, we’d have been playing hours ago.

[true talon]

Hmm

[hazy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/get-a-load-of-this-gif-2218387369813418815

[knotty herald]

i was playing hours ago
thing only lasted like 15 minutes

[true talon]

didnt know that was a job path.

i normally bitch for free, but if i can be paid how i sign up

[knotty herald]

podcasting

[hard axle]

UK Worlds are still fucky since 4.5 weeks ago btw

3-4t delays

[earnest marsh]

sailing engine fixes 😛

[round lintel]

is the game better?

[hard axle]

Uk worlds aren’t disconnecting, but laggy if ur a US player

[round lintel]

US yeah

[shadow grail]

assume it's not fixed untill they remove the warning banner and post an "it's fixed" update

[round lintel]

153 ping on UK worlds

as US for me are 60-100

[hard axle]

That’s what the base ping is

Factor in packet loss and fluctuating ping, it can be like 1800ms

[round lintel]

says its online now

but no statement

[marsh sand]

They did

Update: 23:20 BST - We believe the servers should be stable now, but we'd still advise caution when attempting dangerous content.

[shadow grail]

posted literally 1 minute ago in the server status channel, neat!

just saw a persistent/consistent increase in my ping for about 10-15 seconds, might still be something going on

[obsidian finch]

are servers good now chat?

[tough ember]

Still getting error to connect to server on mobile

That's on WiFi and 5G so deffo not me

[obsidian finch]

im in now see how long itll last seems fine tho

[tough ember]

Almost did myself, got stuck on loaded world map then back to the big red X 😂

[true talon]

Does anyone feel there is an abnormal ammount of grubs at delvs 7+? i just had 4 stacked ontop of each other

like there used to maybe be 2 getting stacked, but even on 8+ it felt extreme excessive compared to when i was previously doing the boss.

[nocturne solstice]

You 1t em so I never really feel its overwhelming unless they're all melee grubs for some reason

[shadow grail]

i've not gotten that far yet, but i don't suppose they expect you to bring something like ancients and/or chins and/or chally for that?

[true talon]

nah

[true talon]

i do, but it seems a lot more than when i was previously here.

like ex i used to get 2 ancient god sword specs on wave 6 before a grub reached close to the boss an i had to deal with it, now they are arriving before the first ancient god sword hits.

[sacred oracle]

i get a little overwhelmed because the stack up on each other

i probably need better custom menu swap

i'm not sure what i need tho

as in, i've seen custom swaps to prioritize grubs stacked in a certain order, but then i have to remember the order

i'm not sure that would help me more than just right clicking if i'm in a rush

i do think the menu swap to prioritize grub over doom might be good tho

[nocturne solstice]

I have npc highlight on em and set em with different colors so their names are different too

helps a lot to differentiate between the grubs when they stack on top of eachother

[true talon]

i dont have an issue killing them, but to see 4 overlap is kinda wild

seeing 2 overlap was possible, but never 4

[obsidian venture]

Kill stuff if they overlap. I just right click and kill the ones that I can with range/mage if it comes to it

You have a few ticks of leeway as they spawn

So do it early instead of being ie and doing it near the boss

[stuck mauve]

killing grubs that are far away is preferred if boss is about to end shield phase and theres a ton of grubs out, since they hurt quite a bit on late waves

[obsidian venture]

Only need to do it if it’s something with melee

[flint willow]

The ddos over ?

[sacred oracle]

oh, i was trying to kill them near boss because i thought that's what you're supposed to do

for the 100 damage

i've made it to delve 10, but i routinely die at delve 8, and sometimes delve 7, so i don't think i'm very good at the boss

[stuck mauve]

yes but sometimes theres an overkill worth of grubs out there that you don't really need to wait for

over time you should be able to gauge which grubs to kill early/late and which grubs to leave be because they will despawn themselves as you drag boss away

[stuck mauve]

it requires practice

eventually it gets easier

also may need to find solves that work better for you in terms of double or single park debris placements and preplanning your debris placement. if you're playing on fixed mode then putting 3 rocks close to eachother is better

[obsidian venture]

Always kill all, but overlapping is a non issue if your prioritize stuff at the spawn

Can still kill stuff near the boss

[sacred oracle]

[obsidian venture]

Again only need to worry if it’s melee and another grub

[minor whale]

There's also no real downside to killing grubs early if it makes it safer
Obviously proccing them under boss is best, but if it's 3 different stacked grubs, absolutely take one or 2 out early because dying is the biggest time waste possible

[chrome lantern]

I just moved my pb up from 12 to 14 and did it b2b

I almost feel ok at it now

[hard axle]

yep, jsut make sure to path out from shockwave if melee punishing

killing early > letting it heal boss 32 hp

[random mulch]

With the recent update on the Official Client, when can we expect to see the full removal of the Legacy Java Client that we were told would happen early this year to help with the bot situation?

[wooden harbor]

that means runelite gets deleted 💀
so probably not for a long while

[shadow wave]

Nah, Legacy Java Client is not runelite

Runelite will continue to run when the Legacy Java Client is shut down

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Java_Client

[random grail]

They specifically said that wouldn't be the case multiple times

[wooden harbor]

oh its a different java client i see

[earnest marsh]

is it me, or does hd client looks worse?

[random grail]

Before is right, after is left

[earnest marsh]

ye right is better

shadows feels so bad

[random grail]

I think it's just you then

[ember token]

im sure youre not the only one with that subjective opinion

[random grail]

But it is subjective

[wooden harbor]

maybe i dont see too deep into it but hd client just looks like they're adding directional lighting and shadows and maybe some bloom to the game?

well judging from the screenshots atleast

i know they mention more planned things

[random grail]

Texture colors look better

Because of shading and whatnot

[wooden harbor]

i think that has to do with the lighting

[random grail]

^

[earnest marsh]

idk it looks more like minecraft

[random grail]

i'm genuinely curious where you see similarities with minecraft

[minor whale]

How in God's name does it look like Minecraft

Criticism of how it looks is fine but at least find a game it's comparable to

[chrome lantern]

I personally think the lighting and aesthetic of OSRS look amazing and would take them over HD any day

[random grail]

The only way I can understand the comparison is if maybe he's talking about Minecraft with shaders maybe ??

[chrome lantern]

I do kinda wish they put in literally any comparison pictures that weren’t the Tlati rainforest or one picture in the Auburn Valley

[warm vapor]

I wish they were a little more open about the API spec for the plugins. I'm hoping external network calls are part of it, or some sort of in-game hidden "channel" for communicating data, otherwise Wintertodt Scouter is not going to work.

[tacit wharf]

wt scouter?

oh, wouldnt be much of a lose if it didnt work, just says the health of wt on the theme worlds

[warm vapor]

Over 1500 folks using it every day!

[small anvil]

Hop todt rarely works out I feel

Though you maybe would be able to do it with alts

But yeah, clog plugins mostly have external calls right

[hard axle]

works very well actually

can match tinderbox logs

[small anvil]

Hmm the world's were like very synced up when I tried briefly, didn't try for long tho

[hard axle]

oh, the goal isn't to sync up the worlds

it's just hopping to the world, chopping, dumping for xp

and if it's not enough time, go back to the original world and complete the 500 points requirement

[lament peak]

disconnected again 😐

[hard axle]

stay off US worlds

UK Worlds

just not 509 or 511

those mfers are laggy

[round lintel]

Server problems again?

[sacred skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/hp-harry-potter-snape-always-stare-gif-17584635

[median wing]

hello

what is tomorrows update

[opaque crest]

After all this time?

[small anvil]

Ohh so don't finish game if you won't be able to get the end of game bonus, just get XP during between game downtime

I wasn't able to farm 2 worlds of bonus XP at end of game getting enough points cuz they didn't line up but I didn't think of just filling downtime

[hard axle]

Yep, an alternative is also just lighting logs

near bank

but you lose just as much time as hopping and getting back in

And if you happen to off-sync wolrds perfectly to get 500 points each game with minor amounts of fletching, that's even better

[jagged marsh]

slayer update i think?

[median wing]

holy pogeranian dodo bird

[chrome lantern]

Doubt slayer rebalance will be tomorrow but would be nice

They've said recently that we haven't seen the end of doom adjustments

[shadow wave]

New Doom adjustment: it's in your walls

[tawny tide]

Tomorrow is probably just pet refunds

[sacred skiff]

Pls I want my pets back

[median wing]

what is pet refunds

[tacit wharf]

when they tell us

[glacial kindle]

We pay we play

[rapid palm]

Anyone else still experiencing server lag and disconnections from time to time? is what happened from yesterday still not fixed?

[zinc fulcrum]

yeah its happening again

[stiff flicker]

it feels like the same thing

[carmine sedge]

Yep

[vague gorge]

Yes I’m experiencing it

[gloomy gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nooo-funny-my-crush-gif-3428194

[vague gorge]

just disconnected at p4 warden 🫠

[fresh matrix]

lost my hcim nooooooo!

[scarlet trout]

yeah takes 10 ticks to move one tile and just dc'ed at olm so rip

[pearl ocean]

YA feeling it too disconnected during nex rip

[lapis thistle]

Disconnected during my red salamander task. Fucking lost small nets and rope. Who is refunding me this???

[obsidian finch]

is it happening again chat?

[zealous crypt]

I thinks its happening again

[pearl ocean]

lol its for sure happening mainly ameroican servers tho

[lament peak]

will the servers ever be stable again like damn

[zealous crypt]

They need to upgrade the infrastructure and get the cloud servers going already like jesus

[unreal finch]

no bro, its happening in EU aswell

[pearl ocean]

damn i was on a uk server and it felt fine lowkey

[rancid pewter]

severs keep crashing

[hybrid fog]

bruhh

[timid pond]

i tried to go on uk servers and i had still same problem, i cant even move in game

[edgy steppe]

Same for german ones

[rancid pewter]

they all are

[neat torrent]

jason ruining the game

[zealous crypt]

Yeah it doesnt matter what server you try if theyre being Dosed again then good luck trying to play the game until they can find the source and stop it

[rancid pewter]

yea so dumb

[still garden]

Riotttttt

[rancid pewter]

they are getting dosed because they banned bots

[edgy steppe]

lol

[untold osprey]

100%

banned 3 of my accounts

[rancid pewter]

lol

[untold osprey]

They been hard banning recently after a month or so of no bans

[rancid pewter]

because bots are everywhere i cant even do slayer or wildy without a bot being around

[untold osprey]

bots are 90% of the player count me thinks

They should just allow them and create more worlds then everyone is happy

[rancid pewter]

maybe i dont understand why theres bots anyway

[untold osprey]

Cos people don't have time to manually level up an iron

There is so many ironman bots and group ironman bots

[cloud cave]

Why don’t they ban the pirates on 330? So annoying and distracting 🙂

[untold osprey]

They should only ban bot farms and leave people like me alone

[rancid pewter]

like im an iron and its so easy to lvl just mine or something if u dont want to do anything u dont need a damn bot

thats just lasy people

[untold osprey]

Nah people who dont have time to play but love the nostalgia

[lapis thistle]

GP is damn near its own crypto currency. Causing mass bots to do whatever they do to make GP that the. Gets sold RWT or used for their own account

[rancid pewter]

wow

[rancid pewter]

so dumb

[zealous crypt]

they cant ban someone for botting and then not ban you for the samething lol

[untold osprey]

Sir don't wow me because your at in your parents basement on your 29th energy drink of the day

Love and peace fellow scapers I'm out until my next lot of accounts are ready

[rancid pewter]

im not in a basement or drink energy drinks

[still garden]

Ram ranch is under siege

[zealous crypt]

lol

[vestal cosmos]

I’m pretty sure this is bannable so don’t do it, but putting a paperweight on your spacebar will continually contact the server and prevent the logout timer (except 6 hr log)

[true talon]

It’s the og and game currency is prob what brought about crypto

[toxic trench]

wtf is going on these days 🙁

[true talon]

Difference is one is useful and has value the other is a 15+ year running scam.

[lapis thistle]

Just change the runelite logout timer to be 20 minutes

[minor whale]

Lmao what

[sacred skiff]

People buy gold because they don't want to or don't have time to (but think they are owed it regardless) earn it.
Which means there's a market for other people to run armies of bots to generate that gold to sell.
Which means that when Jagex finally gets around to banning some, people are angry and I guess some of them know how to set up a DDOS attack

[minor whale]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

It's always buyers and lazy fucks responsible for botting
The numbers would be massively lower if there weren't people getting off with slaps on the wrist for buying

[late kernel]

people also buy gold because it is cheaper then bonds and also cheaper then jagex monthly members price

[zealous crypt]

Yeah dude for sure some of these dudes running bot farms also know how to dos lol

[late kernel]

i believe if we are paying 18 to 20 dollars a month for one character to play a game its overpriced should be my jagex account with my 10 character for that price

[zealous crypt]

i agree with this man

i wouldnt be mad if they made it like 25$ a month for like 10 characters but yea

[minor whale]

You wouldn't be allowed for your characters to log on at the same time if this were how they priced it

[zealous crypt]

fuck your right

[late kernel]

nah they could figure that out

[minor whale]

But...they wouldn't?
That's how WoW and most other MMOs work

If you have a plan to play several characters on one account, you can't alt

If you want them to interact you need to pay multiple subs

[late kernel]

agreed

[zealous crypt]

lol fagex is wild

[late kernel]

bots been around so long they will never fix it

[true talon]

What happened to my crisp red zamorak, what is this ugly color.

Converting to purple

[meager flame]

im ngl

i do think they should just go straight to account deletion for people actually confirmed to buy gold

[toxic trench]

appeal system doesnt work either, lets give everybody a free chance at botting that will solve the problem smh -_-

[hasty shard]

implying theres a system in place at all

[toxic trench]

Only system in place are system errors

[sacred skiff]

Damn, turns out uk worlds aren't totally free of laggy shit

Made it all the way to wave 10 no issues, then had it freeze right when he threw boulder lmao

[austere mulch]

Just had the same lol

Also wave 10 🤣

[sacred skiff]

wave 10 curse :v

[frank jasper]

ive been playing on a ausie world for long er then a hour without lagg lol

[stuck mauve]

rip could've been the wave 100 run

[sacred skiff]

Yep this was surely it lol

[stuck mauve]

I've had double death about 3 times at delve, i wonder if unique dropped at that moment, no way to know since the loot takes a while to appear

[sacred oracle]

better not knowing

there is knowledge that can blind and burn you

[stuck mauve]

that is true

[obsidian finch]

are we good now chat

[sacred oracle]

616 seems fine, but ymmv

[dark pecan]

are servers stable now?

[vast python]

was gonna ask the same thing

[stuck mauve]

probably safe bet to wait til slow mode is gone from osrs chat and the game status becomes green

[slender yacht]

Why would piratesoftware do this

[tacit wharf]

not even funny my guy

[timber ridge]

Is mobile still down?

[south thorn]

Yes

[final compass]

Probably D:

[white mason]

It was fine before but I can’t log in now

[timber ridge]

Same

The irony

[white mason]

Went down again about 10’mins ago I meant

[green raptor]

Sick. Is it everyone or just mobile?

[marsh jackal]

Mobile still down for me 🙁

[timber ridge]

Same max’s sad

[peak lake]

Mobiles down still?

[quiet plank]

Skill issue I can get in on mobile

[peak lake]

Always one loser

At least one *

[spare folio]

Update on bad gateway message for mobile, if you spam refresh you can get past that message

[tall plaza]

@spare folio I'll give this a try tyvm!

[ruby osprey]

Mobile down

[true talon]

They ruined my boy zamorak's crisp red color

we converted to zaros

[floral meadow]

dang they are really trying to push the official client huh

[ember token]

they're really trying to make the official client good yeah

[fading token]

I'm sorry to hear you died, though I'm afraid I'm not able to solve the network attacks myself; our sysadmins will naturally continue working with the hosting providers to protect the game. Thanks for getting in touch.

[gritty briar]

A good official client is only a good thing. We should all hope that it takes over from runelite some day

[naive harness]

Is the slayer update today ?

[ember token]

probably not

should be in the next week or 2

[fierce phoenix]

Coming Soon™

[frigid flame]

Pls slayer QOL hurry

[latent ridge]

no combat achievements for doom still????

[shadow wave]

Given there are still major balances changes this week they'll want players to play with the new Doom first to see how it all shakes out then put out CAs

[last onyx]

Purple drop rates in Tombs of Amascut now scale and interpolate between Raid Level invocations. Instead of only adjusting at 50-level intervals (350, 400, 450, 500), reward weightings are now adjusted every 5 Levels. This allows gradual increases in drop chances without requiring large jumps in difficulty.

• Does this mean it scales properly at 505, 510, 515 and so on again?

[warm epoch]

what major balance changes

[shadow wave]

Well, "major" is perhaps a stretch, but the changes to rocks not disappearing and the melee punish will make things easier or may result in slightly changed strats, so they let those play out for a bit before committing to CAs for things like speeds or perfect CAs

[warm epoch]

the first is a bug fix and the other is a minor change imo

so major is definitely a stretch

[timber drift]

Duke Sucellus no longer remains poisoned from one fight to the next.

kind of lame, was a cool mechanic that kind of made sense since poison is a big part of the duke fight from a flavour perspective and actually made poison kinda cool to use there

and technically you never killed him just put him to sleep so made sense that the poison persists (thought it was intended actually)

[shadow wave]

I mean you can still poison him mid fight

[lofty frost]

How long is the down time tonight?

[ember token]

same as always

[timber drift]

bro just didnt read anything i said 😭

[shadow wave]

I'm commenting on the point "made posion kinda cool to use there" - you can still use it

[warm epoch]

just no longer worthwhile

[shadow wave]

It's still worth using Serp over Faceguard

[gaunt knot]

Does the bush clearing warning also work for calquats?

[ancient ember]

We no longer have downtimes with Game Updates unless it's a major launch! You can always assume no downtime for regular game updates

[rustic idol]

sweet!

[ember token]

it's been like that for several months now

no downtime unless stated otherwise

[craggy flame]

When will pet reclaims be made free? My poor Baron pet has been sitting in Ardougne pet shop for a week now!

[hasty shard]

i feel like half the updates until just recently have had a downtime is the thing 😭

[tired hornet]

anybody else getting weird chat messages at doom

RANGE 744 magic hit 734 RANGE HIT 735 RANGE HIT 736

?

no clash detected 758

[warm epoch]

@vague viper I think debug messages are left on

[vague viper]

We've raised it! Thank you!

[tired hornet]

❤️

[fleet jewel]

update sent me and a bunch of others into the water at fossil island island

sick!

[final frigate]

Are there any plans for adding toa unique scalings past 500? Curious if there's a specific reason they stopped it at 500 exactly when people have been farming well past 500 even before summer

[night wren]

Yes, just logged in and getting them too.

[ancient ember]

We're looking into this! 🙏

[shut shard]

@vague viper Could I check if Doom is now supposed to allow the last projectile's damage to occur during its transition into charge phase when previously it used to null that shot?

I hit a 73 from a tbow shot when it was going into 75% shield phase and it did indeed damge the boss's normal health pool

[ancient ember]

Looking into this as well 🙂

[tired hornet]

Doesn't seem to cause any issues, just a lot of annoying spam

[pastel geyser]

But what if we like some downtime?

People need to shower

[leaden flume]

I have a question about the melee punish change, if you punish early and miss the flick on the double projectile will it max hit twice? At least that's what I'm getting from reading that part

[shadow wave]

It won't "max hit", but you'll take two attacks at once yes

[leaden flume]

why do they word it like full force

[warm epoch]

because it's full force

as in, nothing about it is negated

[fleet jewel]

thank ya!

[tired hornet]

Seems good now, thanks!

[tawny tide]

Muh refund 😭

GGs shortcut is cool

[frail bough]

melee punish still broken wave 4 will try getting clip shortly

[proud hornet]

Please fix our beautiful nex spiritual creatures 😔 they deserve their 200% fire weakness

[lunar hawk]

GG game

[oblique mesa]

The in game message that tells you to click here to open the newspost on the current update points to last weeks update

[lunar hawk]

That’s where the moneys going 😂

[austere moon]

Anyone know what happened to the free pet reclaims they said they added in the slayer changes blog post?

[oblique mesa]

Soon ™

[austere moon]

a classic i just remember it sounding like they already added it xd

[slender flame]

https://tenor.com/view/begging-bass-lines-gif-9786025115072405547

Spare slayer update ??

[austere moon]

would be nice to have that drop

[stuck mauve]

whats the droprate for that

[austere moon]

would make it less of a pain to get a revenants task (120 task dry so far)

[obsidian venture]

True

[stuck mauve]

600 toa should give a shadow kit

[meager juniper]

if one of yall jmods dont mind, i would like to ask about this:

Fixed a bug where the Herb Box incorrectly stated 10 herbs were inside when it should have been seven.
i am ..... very curious about how such a bug is possible. how do you store indices or whatever are used with the Herb Box? how did this happen?

[warm epoch]

base 10 is a nightmare

[obsidian venture]

Wonder if there’s going to be data shared post purple rate nerf at Toa. Still believe it should have been a full blanket nerf as it Feelsbad to do higher invos for half the rate whereas s300 invo is just doing a faster raid for the same rate @vague viper

[stuck mauve]

CM CoX purple droprate buffs when

[sterile jay]

shoutout to whoever rotated the tree at red salamanders 🙏

[ember token]

herb boxes used to be 10 herbs per box before the summer sweep-up, and now it's 7, but they just forgot to update some of the text to say 7 instead of 10

[stuck mauve]

i would need to see a before and after picture

[meager juniper]

ohhhh, of course. right, thank you. my mind went to like the herb sack, i thought it could have whatever amount of herbs inside it. that makes sense then

[fleet basalt]

When moka ca's?

[sterile jay]

the evidence is out there! 👽 but I don't have time for that
the western most tree now faces east instead of north
10/10 qol change, keep it up 👍

[stuck mauve]

i see

interesting

[frail bough]

@vague viper if you could forward to team, here is an example from today where i get hit by two of the same attacks at once. In the first clip, the reason it happens is on the second hit - it looks like its going to do melee punish but i attack the same tick it does that or something which nulls it and I get two different styles I have to pray against on the same tick. I was able to do this when it actually shows the melee punish prayers too, see clip 2 - I got hit by a mage and range projectile at the same time but one hit a zero.

Maybe I'm just not understanding the blogs everytime they say they fix this and it's just a me thing, idk.

[true talon]

So you stole the red color for server admin and made zamorak that ugly color 🙁

[warm epoch]

i think this is on the team for not fixing it correctly tbh

[true talon]

never seen someone melee the boss lmao

[frail bough]

its fun cause chally hits huge

[stuck mauve]

i've had something similar happen when i yellow clicked into delve boss melee range while ranging it and it would melee me and then other projectiles would stack up because its melee attacks are different attack speed or something

[frail bough]

I think they might have thought they fixed it but didnt account for the projectile speed changes based on what wave you're on.

The wave 2 one from above was weird but wave 4 it happens basically every punish you do (if you are quick)

[idle rapids]

Hunter traps will now stack in the Inventory.

Noted hunter items new tradable discontinued? 👀

I wish I had some on me 😭

Nevermind I think they'd be turned into nulls, cause leprechaun says noted versions don't exist anymore. Still would've been cool to get some nulls for the collection

[chrome lantern]

It was surely just a hard coded interaction with the full box before they reduced the herb count inside

[cedar veldt]

we got swimming before sailing

[true talon]

how deep you go

I feel id hate if i meleed, because of melee grubs and random acid

they still didnt add a solid way to clear acid.

or control it

[meager juniper]

Yeah mb I evidently didn't really know what herb boxes were like. It's content I never engage with so I assumed they could have any number of herbs inside, and the examine text therefore must have must have directly references that number

[mortal imp]

Added 40% Water weakness to Nibblers and Inferno Bats. ------ Anyone knows if ice barrage count as water ?

[ember token]

nope

it doesnt

[mortal imp]

I see, thanks

[icy relic]

Hafta go to RS3 for that

[frail bough]

doing melee kills doesnt really make melee grubs change so not sure about that
but honestly im only doing it to test to see if they actually fixed it so that they can know whether or not they want to release a melee only ca

[noble igloo]

Really hope jagex adds an option to unlock custodian stalkers for kuradel

[frail bough]

and because i can log in and verify its still not fixed 5 minutes after every "fix", i'm hoping they just dont add it

[soft laurel]

Any chance Doom boulder fragments could be the same color as the boulder? Not the worst thing but sometimes I space out on early waves, see yellow fragments, and think it's a range rock

[still sundial]

which hunter items are affected by the change to stackable versions?

ah seems like it's the ones you'd expect - meaning not butterfly/impling jars

[hasty shard]

getting imp boxes will be even easier

[idle rapids]

pretty much a free huntsman kit for every1

without being able to hold charged imp boxes

[ember token]

i dont think making the jars stackable would change much? since when you actually catch something in the jars, it wouldnt stack

[minor whale]

You could open 25ish jars at once instead of 14

[shadow pier]

They "fixed" it for 8+, You should never get double autos hitting you sub 8 unless you're trolling or doing something wrong

[still sundial]

it'd be big for buying them out of a shop for example

and puro grind for med clues too

[frail bough]

scroll up to find video, dont think being quick for melee attack would be considered trolling

i know in the videos im meleeing but the attacks are telegraphed so someone who isn't meleeing would run into the same thing

[shadow pier]

Interesting. I've never run into this issue ranging since delaying the melee punish. But it was def annoying before I knew I had to delay

I have also never melee only'ed the boss either

[frail bough]

its just one of those things where its fine if they dont add a melee ca because it wont probably wont happen as often but it just shouldnt happen to begin with

[silent yew]

did anyone else get directed to last weeks update post when clicking the in-game notification?

[frail bough]

i know someone mentioned it earlier today

[rotund reef]

Still missing 40% Muttadile earth weakness

[frail bough]

so addicted that first thing i do on wednesdays is go to main page though so i wouldnt know

[minor whale]

Yep, the newspost link is wrong

[frail bough]

[hard axle]

Still missing 130% Fire Weakness at PNM

so that Elemental Weakness actually has a fucking bis application

[light lion]

So are bird houses stackable now?

[chrome depot]

Has anyone not gotten a drop from doom or is this a new bug? I got 3 dragon platelegs as one of my drops, but they never appeared in my bank?

[hasty shard]

sorry they'll remove it from totems instead

or change it to earth after a redditor complains that a totem is weak to fire

so harm conveniently loses the min hit

[kind sail]

yeah this is cringe

what are they even doing rn

why are we on week 3 with no real meaningful updates, and when they get an actual slam dunk they piss it away

[hard axle]

They took away 2 BIS/meta applications in 2025 and didn't give any back

[kind sail]

especially what they did to whisperer and harm staff

like it wasnt even bis over shadow, why do they do this shit

[jagged marsh]

No but like why did they do Ice Demon that dirty

The ONE use case for using standards and now its "no"

[hard axle]

If they wanted Demonbane more viable, sure, but buff the Fire Weakness more

[hasty shard]

because reddit

thematics > balance

:)

[chrome lantern]

-Be Jagex
-Introduce elemental weaknesses
-Balance the high end of said weaknesses on harm
-Make harm still not bis anywhere
-Everything below harm sucks even more

[hasty shard]

i still fail to see why elementals cant just be stronger lol

if the argument is that it makes magic op in the earlygame then
a) that was already the case
b) the rebalance already made it more op

harm/elementals losing 0.625 dps to thralls inherently just doesnt show up on stuff like wiki calc still

[narrow folio]

How many harms yall have in the bank

[chrome lantern]

0, I’m an iron

Orbs don’t exist

I would prefer harm is deleted or moved or made 5x more common (along with other nm orbs)

Nightmare drop table all around still too rare to be relevant, items are too niche to be relevant, and orbs especially are atrocious

[narrow folio]

Besides the rarity problem, I don't see any benefit or fun in losing thralls/dc just to put on another powered staff essentially (autocast) on another book that needs tomes which annoyingly requires more chargescape just to have it lost when brewing...

[chrome lantern]

I think tomes suck too yeah, magic offhands in general are a problem

Mind you this conversation is after they made not only uniques 30% more common a couple years ago, but also recently made the fight 30% faster as well on top of that

And it’s still not close to
enough

[hasty shard]

a buff to harm could constitute letting it store an offensive spell from any book to autocast

if you keep elementals useless, that still is a considerable buff

400m+ to get barrage on lunars for example

and fits the more utilitarian role volly/eldritch have more

ok its 200m currently

point being they could just let it use surge + thralls lol

[chrome lantern]

Yeah I think specifically storing a standard spell could be ok

[narrow folio]

Imagine being able to barrage and tb at the same time

[hasty shard]

for 200m

[chrome lantern]

Not barrage yeah

[meager flame]

They should just replace harm and probably tomes

[hasty shard]

i genuinely feel like they are more likely to do this 😭

[meager flame]

Almost nobody thinks those should actually be the items and they need content updates

[hasty shard]

also daily aside to say why the fuck do demon/frozen tears not make earth/water rune upgrades

[chrome lantern]

This is the first time I’ve seen that mentioned so idk about daily

[hasty shard]

daily from me

[meager flame]

Like its just horror game design between the rate for orb and how charges really work

[austere mulch]

Already asked for something really similar to this in principle and it ended up being an “engine work” problem

[meager flame]

Idk why theyre so stubborn about it

They know it sucks

[hasty shard]

they reworked poh code like a week ago

the engine work excuse is becoming thinner

[chrome lantern]

1/1600 orbs from pnm xd

[hasty shard]

rarer than pet 🥹

[chrome lantern]

Casual 200hr grind

With good gear

That already beats harm

[minor whale]

They could have another mage level breakpoint where spells do extra damage

[chrome lantern]

Spells just shouldn’t scale by unlock only

[minor whale]

Melee and Range levels affect all damage done by the skills

[chrome lantern]

That’s the core issue with magic in the first place

[minor whale]

Mage just says fuck you it's spell only

[chrome lantern]

Every other issue is from layered band-aids on spell damage being the only original damage scaling

[minor whale]

And if it's rebutted with "yeah but spells are like ammo"
Range boost still makes you do higher damage, mage boost for spells does literally nothing

It's insane

Just let mage damage scale and you've fixed spells

[hasty shard]

they should probably change the rune costs for standards tbh

[meager flame]

Im ngl their true biggest issue is not being willing to actually address anything almost

[hasty shard]

all of them need air runes, fire needs more fire runes than air needs air runes

[meager flame]

Like

We have to sit for years and years with crazy rates or a formula that makes no sense

[minor whale]

Every powered staff is a blowpipe basically and all mage progression is which mage blowpipe you have access to
It's so horribly designed it's hilarious

[meager flame]

And they come out of their cave finally and fix like 20% of their problem and run away again

And by the time you see them again and they admit that wasn't enough they've more than made up for their previous fix

And it's an even bigger mess lol

[chrome lantern]

It’s ok adding 30% fire weakness to Verzik fixed magic xd

[hasty shard]

adds 30% fire weakness to verzik and doesnt change the damage calc at verzik

they're actually trolling

are you guys excited for shadow bis at zik 😭 !!

[chrome lantern]

Jagex pre-ToA:
-Players don’t like that magic is inaccurate and low damage on single targets
-We need to fix magic
-“What if we made a new weapon”
-“People didn’t like the new weapon make it more op and easier to use”

[hasty shard]

i feel like the weird attack cycle on heka killed it

solely that

[chrome lantern]

I mean like we said though

[hasty shard]

if it was JUST 2t we'd have it

[chrome lantern]

Heka and shadow were both flawed from the start

Because they didn’t try to fix magic

[meager flame]

I actually think a lot of the shadow hate didn't even make sense and still doesn't really

[chrome lantern]

Just cover it up

[meager flame]

Like theres a lot of people mad that magic simply got used

[chrome lantern]

Shadow is fine with its relative power compared to other megarares, people didn’t like that shadow made magic used where it wasn’t before

[meager flame]

Basically change = bad people

[hasty shard]

shadow having a higher attack mult than what they set for a leagues relic is really funny to me

[chrome lantern]

Shadow is not fine with its power relative to its own style

Eye bridges that a bit

[hasty shard]

fuck wait let me check im wrong i think

[meager flame]

Well yeah but that has to happen

[gritty trail]

Anyone have their game client randomly close on runelite? Never happened before happened twice today

[hasty shard]

nope i am right

[[zamorakian sight]]

[ornate wolf]

Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Zamorakian_Sight

[meager flame]

As soon as magic actually became viable it would naturally take space

[chrome lantern]

I remember that relic being sick

[hasty shard]

it was and then we just put it on a maingame weapon but stronger 😭

[true talon]

IF you run a finish sim for phosani you get most the time results like this

[chrome lantern]

It let you hit against graardor with magic xd and look at us now

[meager flame]

Yeah with scythe being the most used weapon

[chrome lantern]

I’ve never owned a scythe so I can’t comment on scythe tbh

[meager flame]

Lmao like theres nothing inherently wrong with shadow being good at some content

People just saw magic used finally for something and had a mental breakdown

[hasty shard]

purging has more bis use cases than an entire spellbook

most catered to weapon

[true talon]

Facts, i dunno how people are having mental breakdown over magic being good, but are fine with tbow an scythe.

[hasty shard]

i feel like we're going to very conveniently get a stab weak flat armour mob soon so tecpatl are relevant whatsoever

[meager flame]

I mean it was just the natural conclusion if its viable and useful right on that level

Its going to ideally spread to about 33% of bosses in a perfect world

[true talon]

doom is so damn boring, because its just ranged leviathan.

[meager flame]

With range and melee having the other 66

[hasty shard]

tbow at least competes with bp and uh

thats it

bowfa was meant to slot in there but its dodged every range buff until mokh

[true talon]

Eye is very strong now

[meager flame]

Eye probably is the best non mega

Unless we include bp dragon darts

[true talon]

they went out there way to make quiver bad for bowfa an blowpipe..... by adding that garbage condition of firing projectiles.

[chrome lantern]

Doom is very different from levi lmao

[hasty shard]

bp ddarts is probably cheaper than ayak rn 😭

how much in the bin is masori

[chrome lantern]

Also levi is also ranged so I don’t see your point

[hasty shard]

80m

[true talon]

Place rocks, prayer flick, camp it with tbow. seems same to me.

Use void, because why not.

[hasty shard]

quiver buff applies to less weapons than it doesn't apply to

[true talon]

jagex has the new boss using void as bis armor over say good range gear

[chrome lantern]

I wasn’t certain you were trolling until you said camp tbow void at levi

[meager flame]

Idk why theyre so weird about quiver

[true talon]

you dont use void at levi

[hasty shard]

quiver really only buffs tbow/scobow

zcb is a spec mostly

[chrome lantern]

?

I know so why say that

[hasty shard]

and ven bow still doesnt use charges like 😭 ??

[meager flame]

I literally blessed my quiver and refuse to think about what it buffs

Lmao

[chrome lantern]

Delve is like levi except these 5 ways where it’s not

[true talon]

same concept. shoot it with range, prayer flick. place rocks, get in the jank orb thing.

[hasty shard]

they also just gave +3 str to treads which is still ???

[chrome lantern]

Except the melee punish switches, grubs, the gear you use, field scaling difficulty, changes that persist through kills, and mechanics, it’s the same boss

I love the part when leviathan charges at you and the one where he makes you melee

Oh wait

[true talon]

ok? its leviathan concept with extra mechanics

[chrome lantern]

Delve boss is scurrius concept with extra mechanics

xd

The only similarities are primarily using ranged, a slam, and orb attacks you pray against

Nothing else is similar

[narrow folio]

Funny how quiver gatekeeps 10 acc and 1 str from a difficult challenge meanwhile treads is like, heres 3 str for everyone

[austere mulch]

Lot of Reddit also complained about “FOMO” from not being on a specific book for one reason or another

[inner seal]

whip dds best

[austere mulch]

Jagex seems to care a lot about FOMO, which is crazy to me. I don’t think it should be nearly as accounted for as they make it

[meager flame]

I think ultimately heka just wasn't strong enough too

[austere mulch]

It was a bit better dps than max str (at the time) rapier in most places

Which was a big jump for Magic tbf

Not nearly as big as shadow tho

[meager flame]

Yeah but the goal was to climb to tbow and scythe to make magic a combat style on roughly equal footing

[austere mulch]

The healing was also like

8x stronger than sang in team cox

I liked it, I think the variable speed was needlessly complicated tho

[meager flame]

They basically needed all of the ceiling that shadow gave them to get to that point

Now they just have to figure out what do do with everything before shadow lol

[chrome lantern]

People didn’t like heka because it was weird to use and a lot of the weird bonuses they tried adding on made it complex, they just wanted a stat stick

[hard axle]

1 cuz ym is a coward

[hard axle]

jagex periodically goes back to old balance mantra, but only when its for endgame difficulty content

super accessible content? you get +3, you get +5, you get +52

[hasty shard]

i want to have harm in my bank it looks sick af

[alpine viper]

40% water weakness to nibs does ice barrage count towards this weakness?

[kind sail]

no

ice barrage is not a water spell

[buoyant mulch]

I like that they want to add stronger bosses etc, but like, I can't even get past Scurrius' 3th phase - too much going at once for me to process and react on time. It sucks, because I really wanna be able to do the Doom boss at one point, but I know I'll be dead in seconds cuz there's way too much to keep track off :/ Bosses like Tempeross and Wintertodt are at least accesable for everyone and just need some long-term grinding.

[hot marsh]

OSRS adding challenging content is amazing. Nice to have a dev team that makes difficult stuff

[sacred skiff]

Scurrius and Royal Titans were explicitly released to help you practice mechanics found in later bosses, so by trying them out you’re on the right path!

[buoyant mulch]

I know - and the fact they're a tutorial of sorts isn't my complaint. I just can't react fast enough - like, literally almost incapable of being fast enough. Sure, with like dozens of hours I can get the reflexes etc, but that isn't fun unless that kind of training tickles your itch in games. That is why I like the group skilling bosses likje Temp and Winter - they're social activities, rather laid back, you're not instakilled when you can't react on time. I hope they continue the trend of having a mix of raid bosses and skill group bosses. It caters to all sides. Just makes me a bit sad knowing that defeating the Doom won't really be an option for me

it's why I like Forestry and Starmining as well - they're social activities, you can relax a bit, etc... I still haven't done like every activity in the game - far from it, but I really hope they'll eventually give every skill an update like Forestry and Starmining

[true talon]

They have been doing all that, infact they did that all of last year. it was massive ammout of mid lvl and early lvl bossing an stuff.

this is first year we got some decent end game content that also finally had some power creep items

wasnt some garbage niche like echo boots/glaive/sunfire armor

[river dock]

Please, for the sake of our mental health, make option to recall kitten. No matter where its stuck, right click - recall or something similar.
Hate when getting to spot, potting up, praying and seeing cat call you from behind some random rock.
Happens often in kourend, especially on dragons.

[true talon]

you can go to your armor tab an click the whistle to call pet

Works with pet cats and normal pets. calls them to you.

[round lintel]

Always spoon even in simulators lmaooo

[river dock]

This. This is what I didnt know it exists. losing my nerves for weeks

thanks a lot 😄

[austere mulch]

Delve 1- 3 is prob easier than rat boss tbh lol

Assuming near max combat for delve and low-mid level combat for rat boss

You have like a billion ticks to change your prayer and you can click in a straight line across the room when rock special happens

[quiet plank]

What're your stats cuz you shouldn't have a struggle at scurrius

[craggy wind]

Love this thought! Hear me out…. Social agility being low effort, similar to stars?

[frail bough]

Social anything feels very mythical. Have you seen the chat at gotr/todt/stars?

[vestal cosmos]

Just from watching videos of Doom runs, floors 1-3 or so seem almost identical to Scurrius. Slow projectiles to flick, occasional rocks from the ceiling, whack the minions. The only differences are the orb and the acid.

[round lintel]

anybody playing RS3 leagues coming next month?

[past latch]

Os mobile still broken?!

Is*

[shell smelt]

Mobile login broke for me again too

[vivid ruin]

Ew rs3 leagues

[past latch]

I keep getting bad gateway

And I was already logged in most of the day then it kicked me

[delicate nexus]

Me too

[shrewd holly]

Os mobile still broken?!
unstable.

[blazing vapor]

Mobile still down?

[ember token]

all these people obsessed with leagues and want it yearly should be happy for this though, they like sped up progression and RS3 is already faster progression as is, so RS3 leagues should be right in their interest

[quiet plank]

Can you buy keys and stuff in rs3 leagues

Cuz 10x applied to your p2w lamps would be funny

Or what if leagues coincides with double XP weekend

[umbral summit]

Double XP is currently ongoing

[ember token]

they said no MTX in leagues

[meager flame]

if only they had any self respect and could say that about the main game lol

that game is tragic

we're at the part where everyone knows they ruined it with mtx/p2w/whatever including the devs but they're trapped trying to create data to explain the most obvious thing ever and spinning it like people have to come play their less mtx betas instead of them needing to prove to people that anyone should pay them for that game

[ember token]

i lurk in the rs3 subreddit and a lot of them actually like the mtx

like

[meager flame]

oh im sure the problem though

[ember token]

most rs3 players have been playing the game for decades now, they're grown adults

[meager flame]

is that its an echo chamber

[ember token]

they like being able to spend money on progression because they have less time

[meager flame]

they already got rid of the people that wouldn't put up with it

and now they've admitted its unsustainable

[ember token]

nah it's not an echo chamber, there's differing opinions

[meager flame]

it really is

[ember token]

there's still lots of them that don't like mtx

there's just also a lot of them that DO like it

[meager flame]

that game has been going so hard down a path that most gamers would never follow them on that anyone left

like literally anyone

is someone with a very high tolerance for mtx in the first place

like they filtered their players so hard for people that might even consider mtx

that even the people that dont like it are probably more willing to live with it at this point than the average gamer

now that they've farmed their whales almost to extinction they have a problem lol

[small anvil]

I might check out their leagues just to try their quests and stuff

But maybe not

[ember token]

assuming it doesnt all just get autocompleted

[chrome lantern]

I’m ngl if rs3 leagues is area locked I immediately lose 100% of interest

[ember token]

i think i wont be simply because it would be too much work

[small anvil]

Ya in all likelihood I don't participate

But I'll at least consider it to get some of the story beats prob

[warm epoch]

With the way they hub things I don't think they can area lock it

[kind surge]

area locked would be so ass if they want to let osrs players give the game a serious chance

[ember token]

yeah i dont think its gonna have area locks

[winged mantle]

Hoping next osrs league is srl rerun but not scuffed and the unlocks actually mean something

Perma relic unlock but spenny

And they don't have to be swapped

The dream

[slender vapor]

When wow streamers won't even look at rs3 because of how predatory the mtx is, that's a good canary in the coal mine

They'd rather play ancient medieval clicking game than the version that looks more like wow

[jovial sentinel]

Ill probably fall asleep soon, so cant really debate this, bit its worth noting that both rs games are pseudo single player games with some group content, in a multi world. Rs3 moreso, as theres no pvp. Its easy af to ignore that others are spending on mtx, because its just skipping the game. Not saying it should exist, its just so much closer to caring that people are cheating in a single player game than other mmos. And thats kind of it with both games. Pvm also os completely unaffected, as its basically the same as osrs, people can rwt/buy bonds and then quit when they realise that was the game.

Rs3 is legit good as an iron though, which has all mtx disabled. Just different to osrs now after the major changes (that shouldnt have happened obviously)

[meager flame]

i dont even think its so much about worrying about other people's accomplishments

you just look at the game and see how they try to basically sell you the fix or the super over the top insane looking mtx running around you

it just kills the vibe of games

[jovial sentinel]

Idk, i dont notice it at all myself.

The cosmetics, yes. Over the top and annoying, and likely will get a toggle soon to turn off.

[meager flame]

i think there is honestly just like a line for everyone where once they cross it

you can just see they care more about selling you mtx than designing the game for you to have fun

and its over once that happens

[jovial sentinel]

But things lile proteans? They are mostly camped in certain worlds, and only those worlds. I legit rarely see people using stuff like that

Yeah, a lot of content suffered in the past too, due to mtx. You can see it. But things feel ok at top level now going back after enjoying osrs.

Not because faster, just the gameplay itself feels fine (iron perspective is all i have in recent times)

I get that as a non iron, it may feel like you're getting shovelled it. Popups everywhere. I tend to forget they exist

[meager flame]

im ngl when i do log into rs3 which is very rarely

lmao its a diaster they're like hey pick up your free stuff and theres like 17 ui elements dedicated to different mtx systems

keys yak track etc

[jovial sentinel]

You get like, the key popup, the non removable mtx button, and something else om fairly sure. Id never recoend the game outside iron

Yak track no longer exists

Hasnt in ages, it was hated.

[meager flame]

ya i remember when they removed it i think

and they got something even worse and people basically revolted

[jovial sentinel]

Thwy tried another one after that wad tje same

Yeah

But its gone

[meager flame]

i think that was the beginning of the end in a way

bc rs3 counts started to get even lower and they finally started walking stuff back and then talking about maybe removing systems

[ember token]

the issue of proteans is not seeing people use them but rather the impact it has on the economy

[jovial sentinel]

I thought it was.. but idk. It seems like things migjt go well.

Ill likely swap between both games myself

[meager flame]

all i can say is if they actually go through with removing like

gameplay mtx outside of bonds

[jovial sentinel]

Oh yeah, absolutely. I cant comment on the economy, as i dont interact, but its something i mention against em myself.

[meager flame]

and give me a toggle to see actual gear in the game and not like

the crazy cosmetic overrides

i'd give them an honest try

[jovial sentinel]

Its likely worth it, if they do

But only if bored of osrs

[meager flame]

theres some stuff about that game though that seems kind of unrecoverable without doing some stuff i think most people that play it wouldn't like

[jovial sentinel]

Like what?

[meager flame]

like i'd have to play an iron because my main actually basically has infinite rs3 gp

[ember token]

for me the primary thing is I can't play both games at the same time on the same account

[meager flame]

because i have several rares

from the dawn of time

[jovial sentinel]

100%, iron is better anyways.

And yeah, not being able to use 1 account for both sucks.

Whats seemingly common is not using necromancy as well, sonce it deletes most prog

[meager flame]

i actually think that both blizzard and jagex are making a huge mistake by not allowing people to log into both games with the same account at the same time

i know why they're like that because its way easier to use the same login system

[jovial sentinel]

Maybe. I dont know if that attracts people though.

Maybe it keeps retention up?

[meager flame]

its technically expensive to fix

[jovial sentinel]

Yeah, i mean tue incentive to allow it.

Before calculating the work

[meager flame]

but in both games pretty much i hear all the time someone complaining about it

[jovial sentinel]

Like, how many more people would it get? Would it mean bots start botting both games with an account?

[meager flame]

and im just sitting there like

this is maybe the most common complaint on both osrs and classic wow lol

[jovial sentinel]

Like, thats actually something rs3 is good with atm. Its not ruined by bots like osrs.

Why bot rs3 when you can bot osrs?

[meager flame]

well its way better to go at osrs with those kind of things

way more people to sell to

[jovial sentinel]

Yeah, its more popular.

Its not necessarily rs3 being better at anything.

[meager flame]

plus from their pov

they probably wouldn't do both games anyways even if they could log into both

because they only have so much cpu to go around and they'd logically just keep stacking osrs accounts until they hit their limit

[jovial sentinel]

Probably.

At least it does look like both teams are communicating now though.

Though, cant say osrs is benefiting from copy-paste quests.

Its own quests have always been the best.

[lime timber]

There gonna be any updates tonight??

[nocturne solstice]

no

[vestal jetty]

Most likely @fading token will do updates that are really needed right now, what we need now is yama to be fixed. I cannot stress enough to see oath plate armor to be dropin this fast, all yama drops are near nothing now.. it saddens me to see that. We need bosses where oath armor is used.
@fading token i need you to speak to the team and make yama drops worth grinding for please

[nocturne solstice]

What

[vestal jetty]

What I mean is I need them to fix yama drops to be worth grinding for

[jovial sentinel]

Arnt all his uniques really good?

[lime timber]

Ok sweet thnx

[nocturne solstice]

I feel like using the word "fix" is extremely insincere and pinging him twice is also unnecessary

65m per piece is also far far faaaaar from "near nothing"

[stuck mauve]

oat plate is used at a lot of bosses

[fading token]

Thanks for the suggestion, though even ideas pinged to me personally don't necessarily happen like that 🙂

[final frigate]

But surely ash has the magic stick he can wave to make changes happen on a whim

[slender vapor]

He has a magic stick, he just weilds such girthy power responsibly

[final frigate]

I need one of those from the sand prison

[stuck mauve]

[shadow wave]

• guy with 100 Oathplate Chests brought at 120m in his bank

[final frigate]

Noob server I see

[stuck mauve]

how far do you see

[dire mango]

Oathplate is used basically everywhere slash and the scythe is BIS. What are you on about?

[minor whale]

He's either a mercher or he's not someone that plays the game very much

Oathplate is brought to basically everywhere Torva used to be brought outside of ToA and Nex

[plucky roost]

I love my oathplate, and I’ve been using it at Vardorvis, Duke, Zulrah (with a nox halberd), and several slayer tasks. Love how it makes all the Godsword specs hit more often too. 🙂

And I would say that the death charge upgrade alone is more than enough reason to grind the boss. At least until you hit 100 kc.

[vestal jetty]

I feel that you have a lot respect in that office thats why i ping you always as you hold a lot of respect in office

[minor whale]

Lmao it's all he talks about
I'm sensing someone bought and is holding 200 Oathplate sets

[restive siren]

thats a touch grass angle

[true talon]

Pretty sure Nex OG was same person complaining about how nex drops needs to be buffed and that nex is dead content now thanks to yama.
Now they want yama to be buffed. smells like gold farmer/mercher.

[ember token]

he really thinks ash is gonna take his complaints to the rest of jagex

[slender vapor]

Bait used to be believable

[final frigate]

the quality has really fallen

they're all boring man never funny

can't even laugh at trolls it's just sad

[analog crow]

Hey team we need to give Doom an oathplate weakness and nerf drop rates so this guy can profit on his merch

[austere mulch]

The only update Yama needed after the main fixes was making shards untradeable

Which they’ve heard those requests plenty of times over lol

[slender vapor]

"We've heard your complaints, but Middle finger"

[velvet orchid]

that and a lil bot nuke would fix yama though

[ember token]

well theyre not making shards untradeable

[velvet orchid]

Maybe if prices keep crashing the engagement will be low enough for them to consider it?

[austere mulch]

Honestly I don’t think it’d be that big of a nightmare to change even this late bc it won’t impact irons & I’d imagine there’s a pretty quick turnaround between selling shards and creation of new armor piece. So I wouldn’t think there are that many shards openly around at any given time outside of anyone collecting or attempted merching

[ember token]

half the point of being able to smith oathplate is for it to be a good skilling/smithing money making method

[small anvil]

Bigger problem for yama drops is that it already was botted heavily for weeks. There was a massive bot farm that was responsible for daily soul rune price jumps and crashing the price of aether catalyst, worms, oath shards+pieces

Of course soul runes are in free fall cuz they are being botted to hell now too

[minor whale]

His point of Oathplate not having enough uses though is wild

It's got basically as many uses as Torva if not more

[warm epoch]

Basically worthless then

[slender vapor]

All 3 pieces are 65m

[chrome lantern]

I mean it is kinda inevitable at some point if stuff gets botted

Bandos faceguard was under 60m when bis

[minor whale]

It's also from a boss with very good drop rates that's actually enjoyable to do and has built in duo mechanics and also has contracts to guarantee they drop, and shards which can be farmed and traded for a skiller to also be able to get the armor
It's got 10 ways to come into the game and they're all decent gp and decently enjoyable, of course the gear is gonna be cheap