There's multiple ways of training sailing listed already
#game-update
small anvil
dawn jackal
it's entirely dishonest
meager flame
it would be like ironmen being able to trade on boats
frail bough
but this is simply resolved by giving them slayer reqs to begin with
hard axle
RL is just inevitable
meager flame
i mean its not just cannon to land that is an issue
its cannon to anything you're fighting
being a skiller is not being able to do that
at least not in a direct manner
like thats the point lmao
dawn jackal
i know a large amount of lv 3 skillers and not one of them is going to like firing up the cannon to train slayer
rustic ocean
Wait people actually play on the official client out of some arrogance of superiority?
frail bough
the official client is good if you dont rely on a billion plugins
rustic ocean
Is that why they're adding plugins and updating the official client to resemble run elite more? Because it's superior?
frail bough
300fps go brrr
dawn jackal
there's definitely a group of players who disagree with plugins entirely
rustic ocean
Sorry I feel like some plugins are kinda necessary for content.
Like animation smoothing and anti drag
meager flame
like
take fighting games
there are usually simple but "cheap" ways to do things that are extremely effective
small anvil
didnt think i'd find someone explaining spikes to me in osrs server
dawn jackal
i'm not arguing right or wrong haha i think some plugins are far too strong and many are necessary to enjoy the game to its fullest
meager flame
some people get caught up mentally rebelling against that out of some weird sense of honor or superiority that they dont do it
but they actually just suck
frail bough
antidrag does exist on main client btw
rustic ocean
antidrag does exist on main client btw
Good. It's important lol
frail bough
animation smoothing is basically last thing im waiting for on top of hd before i move over
small anvil
some people just think tile markers are ugly
minor whale
The menu entry swapper being a bit more uh
small anvil
and i know people who do top tier pvm without true tile
meager flame
functional
minor whale
It's currently just not extremely good
meager flame
lmao
small anvil
mobile swapper is really dumb
minor whale
Hopefully the API comes before HD
small anvil
i've added all sorts of randoms to my friends list cuz of it
minor whale
And we can get some of the plugins people really enjoy from Runelite on default client
rustic ocean
I hate on mobile I can't move an empty option on the plank sack and stuff above the default deposit option in the bank interface
meager flame
im ngl
small anvil
any time something overlaps with something i've menu swapped
meager flame
if the api is actually good and its still planned for lua
small anvil
it has weird behavior
rustic ocean
I hate on mobile I can't move an empty option on the plank sack and stuff above ...
Is the official client menu swapper the same as this
dawn jackal
idk i'm not sure how jagex expects me to vote on these skilling polls without rates it's kinda disingenuous
small anvil
they expect a rubber stamp
minor whale
Is the official client menu swapper the same as this
Yeah it's the same stuff
Mobile + official have parity
small anvil
that's the end of it
frail bough
I hate on mobile I can't move an empty option on the plank sack and stuff above ...
this gets fixed with the new bank layout anyway but yeah its definitely not as robust as runelites
dawn jackal
if fishing trolling is 175k fishing xp / hr they'll just point back to the poll passing
meager flame
i'd rather the normal plugin guys just move all of their stuff over
but there are things that im so unwilling to part with
that i would remake it if i had to
dawn jackal
i think i don't trust jagex to handle anything skilling to match what i would like for the game anyway so it's kinda moot
rustic ocean
i'd rather the normal plugin guys just move all of their stuff over
Pretty sure Adam (creator of runelite) is working with jagex to build plugin hub on official client
The one thing I am sure the official client won't have is quest helper. At least not in the same manner as runelites
meager flame
ya like its just unfortunate how things end up like this wow was the same way
some addon you used for a decade ends up with nobody to maintain it
dawn jackal
i would really like if the skills were actually integrated into sailing in some way (other than fish trolling)
meager flame
and you use it so much you end up fixing it yourself
dawn jackal
what is proposed is simply a level requirement
meager flame
there are a few of them that would scare me though
like animation smoothing
hopefully jagex does that one
rustic ocean
some addon you used for a decade ends up with nobody to maintain it
Rip collection log plugin
dawn jackal
like why can't i steal from another ship why i gotta land on an island and loot a chest
hard axle
Mobile + official have parity
It’s not on par with RL atm 
tacit wharf
Rip collection log plugin
hard axle
one of the biggest and I mean biggest benefits of CMS is you can outright choose what is left click in a stack and in what order
At GWD, you can prio Zily over starlight without having to make starlight left click walk here
you can prior grubs over the boss at Delve
So many things that Custom Menu Swaps does that official/mobile lack
meager flame
for some reason the zily one always randomly doesn't work for me
im assuming it has something to do with the click boxes like dancing around
but
i bet if its not that and i could use a jagex api
it wouldn't be happening
hard axle
for some reason the zily one always randomly doesn't work for me
I had that initially, but no longer because of how I typed it out
Can send when I’m free
sacred oracle
you can prior grubs over the boss at Delve
how do you do that? i've realized i need to, but haven't bothered to search for how
small anvil
Custom menu swaps
sacred oracle
i know that
small anvil
Ah ok
sacred oracle
what to put in there, exactly
small anvil
I haven't used the plugin myself so idk exactly
plush gull
i use it but idk how, probably got like 15 extra characters that arent needed
Attack*,Fremennik warband seer*,Attack*,*
that seems to work for prioritising left click attacks, and if u add multiple, the ones lower down take precedence
so
Attack*,Fremennik warband seer*,Attack*,*
Attack*,Fremennik warband berserker*,Attack*,*
priotises melee frem
hard axle
how do you do that? i've realized i need to, but haven't bothered to search for ...
[mokey]
attack, demonic larva*
attack, demonic melee larva*
attack, demonic mage larva*
attack, demonic range larva*
attack, volatile earth*
this prioritizes earth, then range larva, then mage larva, then melee larva, and then regular larva
gleaming karma
god damnit all these new fucking items but no mention of bank space. between this and varlamore expansion it's getting to be a bit god damn ridiculous
sacred oracle
you shouldn't be running out of bank space
meager flame
nah tbh it actually is crazy now
sacred oracle
i own every bis item and have a full tab of just clue items to absorb stuff from when i spam open jars, and i still have 200 spare bank slots
meager flame
as a main it makes more sense but as an iron
sacred oracle
you can only run out of slots if you're hoarding
if you don't hoard, you will not need more slots
meager flame
unless you actually want to just drop everything to an alt constantly or like
never pick up stuff
hard axle
as a main it makes more sense but as an iron
even 1000 slots is more than enough
meager flame
its kinda bad
hard axle
the only thing I can see being done
is letting death coffer be used to unlock more slots
which would massively help irons
meager flame
idk why they dont do that
sacred oracle
irons 🤝 superiority complex
meager flame
it would stop those items from hitting economy and its not like irons are ever dropping their raw gp over
gleaming karma
irons 🤝 superiority complex
because everything we do is earned, not purchased 😛
hard axle
irons = whinescape
hard axle
it would stop those items from hitting economy and its not like irons are ever d...
yeah, that's what im saying
they've done a very good job recently preventing 10x sinks
like back when blood essence or ancient tablets were made craftable instead of lms only
the only recent 2-4x sink we had were huasca pots
sacred oracle
i like the 10x sinks because i hate the death fee and i want to circumvent it however possible
hard axle
and they outright ban new items from being sunk
meager flame
yeah but even if irons had those
it wouldn't have mattered
getting huasca for irons is like
hard axle
yeah but even if irons had those
so again, if someone wants to sink a tbow for 1200 slots, I am down for it
meager flame
a torture chamber
hard axle
I think that's a good thing personally
sacred oracle
i thought it was a nice balance: if you're gonna make us pay constant, dumb death fees just for trying to do content, then at least let us get a discount on it
hard axle
rather than bitching for free slots
sacred oracle
but now it's just -500k every death and no 10x in sight
meager flame
yeah i mean i would have a max bank unlocked about 30 seconds after logging in
sacred oracle
disaster
meager flame
if deaths coffer worked
hard axle
yeah i mean i would have a max bank unlocked about 30 seconds after logging in
didn't jagex say 1200 was the limit that their system could handle too?
for now
I feel like Ash might've recently said they further upgraded
meager flame
yeah i mean they have to
hard axle
potion storage alone should've saved irons like 200 slots
meager flame
thats one of those things where the natural chain of events will just force them to upgrade somehow
since they have to keep making new content
im surprised they haven't invested in like
fixing whatever tech debt is obviously destroying them when it comes to that data
hard axle
thats one of those things where the natural chain of events will just force them...
over time, they should upgrade, but since they've last upgraded bank space, I don't think we've added that many items that you want to bank to it makes a difference
sacred oracle
i'm never surprised by the persistence of tech debt
i've been working in software a very long time
too long
meager flame
i bet its all connected
hard axle
i'm never surprised by the persistence of tech debt
servers
meager flame
servers cant handle all of the players
meager flame
servers cant handle all of the new content thats adding more server load
sacred oracle
remove BA, it's time
meager flame
i mean a real fix if they went for it instead of just expanding on whatever keeps limiting them
meager flame
would probably end in an effectively unlimited bank
since they would probably just go all the way
hard axle
how they managed to fuck poison timers at BA a while back because of some absurd unrelated patch was wild
tacit wharf
god damnit all these new fucking items but no mention of bank space. between thi...
they already mentioned this previously, stop hoarding and wtf else u doing with yr money on an iron, stop dropping it to yr main
meager flame
it just gets silly because its like
gleaming karma
they said NOTHING of bank space
meager flame
not just uniques you need to drop over
tacit wharf
they have
meager flame
its that you keep tons of things mains would never keep
hard axle
hang on, im trying to find the comment about bank space
hard axle
its that you keep tons of things mains would never keep
listen
listen
you listening?
meager flame
like you dont want to just yeet your skilling supplies even if you max
meager flame
because some quest or new content or whatever is gonna make you suddenly need xyz bars or planks etc
and eventually
hard axle
same for my firelighters
tacit wharf
they said NOTHING of bank space
hard axle
oh, so it's still tech limited
ty for recent confirmation
That could even include looking into new types of storage via Sailing features like the cargo hold.
meager flame
but yeah i just cant believe they're having some kind of data issue
hard axle
sailing-only bank
meager flame
like
tacit wharf
cannonball rack holder
gleaming karma
<#1398109186033717420>
so... vote no for all new items because banks cant handle it, got it
meager flame
storing the item data for an account in my mind should just be like
tacit wharf
so... vote no for all new items because banks cant handle it, got it
what a ren comment
hard axle
storing the item data for an account in my mind should just be like
I wish more irons were like you and had a brain
but yeah, item data shouldn't be more than a few hundred megabytes lol...
meager flame
idk how they're so limited by whatever the engine or servers are doing
hard axle
for all 1200
gleaming karma
yall buy gp and it's painfully obvious
tacit wharf
most people who complain about bankspace are the same that dont clean their room and complains cuz cant find their x
meager flame
the funny part is my actual main
as soon as i maxed my bank space was like
amazingly free
hard axle
most people who complain about bankspace are the same that dont clean their room...
considering that the first 200 bank slots is only 40m
it's super reasonable
meager flame
you just get bogged down carrying around a bunch of almost reasonable stuff on an iron
hard axle
especially if they add the death coffer idea me and turkey were talking about
it's even more free
meager flame
because its a pain in the ass if you end up needing it
tacit wharf
havent even had to go that far yet, think i just bought the 5mil one
still got 200 free space
hard axle
you just get bogged down carrying around a bunch of almost reasonable stuff on a...
yeah, I understand that, but I've seen people keep marrentills and bronze arrows and whine about space, so I can't take them seriously at times
meager flame
lmao thats crazy
meager flame
it would be fixed like immediately with the deaths coffer thing too
hard axle
bank space is a player issue
meager flame
because you'd have dupes by the time you started having like
indigo tinsel
yeah, I understand that, but I've seen people keep marrentills and bronze arrows...
Oh 
meager flame
a real problem
hard axle
Oh <:sadkek:644286161833164826>
tacit wharf
Oh <:sadkek:644286161833164826>
found 1?
indigo tinsel
Im around 800
hard axle
but yeah, people keep way too many placeholders or items that they will never get more of after finishing a grind and then refuse to process it
meager flame
i've been holding strong at the 1064 or whatever it is im at
gleaming karma
yeah, I understand that, but I've seen people keep marrentills and bronze arrows...
have you never done mixology?
meager flame
i did have to kind of do a little work though in my poh and stash units
indigo tinsel
1 or 5m is one space
true talon
Own basically every pvm item in the game, have a drop table full of all monster drops such as alchables/processable ore, got an entire tab of just straight up junk. dunno how people have bank space issues lol
hard axle
because im a psychopath grinder
tacit wharf
mix actually a great way clean out those low level herbs you'll never use
hard axle
mix actually a great way clean out those low level herbs you'll never use
yeah, but once that's done
meager flame
ya tass is basically where i am
hard axle
don't fucking pick them up
tacit wharf
^
hard axle
I have 10 slots consumed by 10 ring of shadows 
gleaming karma
I have and you don't nee that many
how many do you need to greenlog mixology?
true talon
potion storage cleans up so much bank space
indigo tinsel
It just goes in the sack
hard axle
how many do you need to greenlog mixology?
here's the thing, I didnt' greenlog it
indigo tinsel
Jolly green giant mf
tacit wharf
how many do you need to greenlog mixology?
need about 40k of each paste roughly
gleaming karma
here's the thing, I didnt' greenlog it
oh my bad, you said you didn't need "that many" so I assumed you knew what you were talking about
hard axle
I got the secondary pouch because it would extend my AFK while making that potion
it also depends on what herbs u do
dumbass lol
kind surge
yeah the point is you're condensing 3-4 different herbs into one slot
gleaming karma
p2wscapers will do anything to prevent more bank space
kind surge
also I got like 50 clue items needing to be stored in poh or placed in stash units, but I'm still like 30 slots free for whatever I get during slayer or bossing
gleaming karma
gotta fund their bot armies
hard axle
p2wscapers will do anything to prevent more bank space
braindead irons will do anything besides have brain cells, be more like Turkey
actualyl play the game
and not just be stuck in the midgame 
gleaming karma
damn dude is absolutely LIVID i called his bot army out
hard axle
also I got like 50 clue items needing to be stored in poh or placed in stash uni...
If I purged all my placeholders, I would instantly get back 300 slots
kind surge
even I'm in midgame and I still have space lol
hard axle
that's how infrequently I clean my shit out
kind surge
oh man I have so many bank fillers too lol
don't even have potion storage yet
still some space remaining
hard axle
oh right, for some reason I started collecting master clue uniques 
-24 slots here
like dude, there's so much space
gleaming karma
yes, when you can just tele to the GE and buy things you toss out
plush gull
my bank space has <20 slots i want to clean it but the wise old man is trying to steal my silver necklace :c
gleaming karma
I realize bot accounts keep this game afloat, but it's important to understand most people don't play that way
hard axle
it's also important to understand that irons are capped at around 22% of the playerbase and aren't the majority by any means
gleaming karma
78% bots seems high, but probably accurate
hard axle
now ur just being intentionally dense, so enjoy lack of space becuase you don't want to process your items
cuz the only one mad is you
indigo tinsel
Please don't antagonize others.
torpid delta
look at the senseless garbage that I keep:
sir why do you have 104k sandwiches
plush gull
do u have 1m surge pots yet
hard axle
so... vote no for all new items because banks cant handle it, got it
@indigo tinsel well, when you have intentionally dense takes like this, it's rough
hard axle
sir why do you have 104k sandwiches
collections 
indigo tinsel
Mans seem famine
sacred oracle
and that's with this entire insane clue tab
also this miscellaneous tab of stuff
lone remnant
my arch nemesis this guy made me turn on hide ignored players
finite tapir
so... vote no for all new items because banks cant handle it, got it
learn to hoard less shit
you shouldnt even come close to an unupgraded bank in terms of item slots if you avoid hoarding
lone remnant
you shouldnt even come close to an unupgraded bank in terms of item slots if you...
not true for irons
especially less true as items become more and more niche
fossil epoch
Yeh as an iron doing the collection log, i almost never go above like 850 bank slots used
finite tapir
i mean if you've got a list of like 800 distinct items you intend on keeping which are for niche cases that i can look at to understand what exactly you mean
i'll happily resign my point
if i see like, a clue item which isn't in your poh though i'm just going to ignore what you're saying
fossil epoch
Having a filled bank is just because you keep stuff you dont need. Like half eaten pies
lone remnant
if i see like, a clue item which isn't in your poh though i'm just going to igno...
i have all storages maxed
my herblore tab alone is like, 100 slots +
with potion storage
finite tapir
from what
lone remnant
grimy, clean, secondaries
food as well
my skilling tab is like, 200
loot/alchs like 100~
finite tapir
ok so you do hoard alright
lone remnant
no, im just a maxed iron
lol
i would agree with your point if they didnt keep backtracking items
i dropped a bcp before nex
never again
tacit wharf
840/960 havent put any of my potions in potion storage
lone remnant
oh ok ur a uim
thick beacon
personally i struggle alot with bank space as well
i do hoard but hate u are punished for it
vestal ruin
noble vortex
oh ok ur a uim
Stop with the insults.
lone remnant
yeah +1 uim is an insult to my eyes
tender harness
grow up then uim is a game mode
tacit wharf
when calling an apple an apple becomes an insult
narrow folio
You missed the insult that was removed.
tender harness
when calling an apple an apple becomes an insult
yeah what are you an apple
tacit wharf
naw orange mate
tender harness
You missed the insult that was removed.
tbf replying to UIM and saying stop with insults makes it look 
lone remnant
i did say something else
for reference
i was a bad boy
but the way it looks now looks hilarious
so lets just say thats what I said 
plush gull
have we decided that we can have stronger prayer fish than proposed yet
80+ fishing for 5 prayer points with full eat delay is worse than jangerberries honestly
i think we should have fish be an alt source for prayer regen effect
we just got custodia stalkers but its not enough
restive siren
The New fish seem powercreep enough as they are
plush gull
yeah theyre just bland powercreep, atm im voting no to every fish
hard axle
have we decided that we can have stronger prayer fish than proposed yet
80+ fis...
I still think the fish powercreep should be stronger since Brews exist ngl
lone remnant
can the boss PLEASE stop attacking with an attack during double orbs
everytime its -50 hp
every single time
plush gull
I still think the fish powercreep should be stronger since Brews exist ngl
i never use hard food its either brews or snowy knights
lone remnant
like how am i supposed to pray range and mage in the same tick, im not fuckin coxie brother
plush gull
i just want infinite prayer on early irons
tawny tide
i never use hard food its either brews or snowy knights
So why the fuck would you vote no to the fish lmao
plush gull
So why the fuck would you vote no to the fish lmao
because it adds nothing to the game and its a perfect reward space for something that does
lone remnant
Discuss the latest game update! Check #game-news for the latest news post. mods wanna get on me for anything but get on them for this
i wanna discuss this broken ass boss not fish
plush gull
Discuss the latest game update! Check <#615203531028168704> for the latest news ...
we are literally discussing the latest news post from 4 hours ago
hard axle
wait, why would you vote no 
tawny tide
And better karambs
hard axle
it's fine for new food to exist
lone remnant
we are literally discussing the latest news post from 4 hours ago
not a game update
lone remnant
i want people to be mad with me about this boss
frail nebula
I really wish t hey'd just bite the bullet and add a reasonable magic potion with this herblore expansion
plush gull
what purposes do the new fish have besides karambwans looking different and healnig for 2 more in the obscure situations id use a karambwan
frail nebula
rather than this armadyl brew
lone remnant
not fishing spot clickers
hard axle
did moth mixes even disclose it was no attack cooldown?
tawny tide
what purposes do the new fish have besides karambwans looking different and heal...
What better thing do you want to add that would replace karambs
They’re just more options it’s cool
hard axle
What better thing do you want to add that would replace karambs
seasoned karambwans would be nice ngl
tawny tide
Prayer fish is cool
plush gull
What better thing do you want to add that would replace karambs
well i already dont use karambwans i use snowy knights if inv space is not a limiter and brews if it is
hard axle
and make it heal 24
tawny tide
Ban all mains
plush gull
Ban all mains
the fish is 80+ fishing so its not even that great for irons
frail nebula
the fish is 80+ fishing so its not even that great for irons
how is that not great for irons though
lone remnant
because ren thinks all irons are mid game like him
tacit wharf
why do u guys try to argue with ren
plush gull
u might as well eat jangerberries
tawny tide
Does ren even play the game
tacit wharf
Does ren even play the game
only col
tawny tide
Bro didn’t even read
frail nebula
it heals 22 hp AND 5 prayer
yeah tbh that's just extremely solid as a normal hard food to bring lol
hard axle
if it was only 5 prayer
hard axle
okay yeah its shit
but its literally
manta ray + 5/8 moon butterlfies
like I said, hard food needs to be better and this isn't a bad step up
dawn jackal
why can't they give rates for hte new fishing
tawny tide
Not even sure what it’s good for tbh but I don’t care
frail nebula
why can't they give rates for hte new fishing
probably because they don't have firm rates yet
hard axle
Not even sure what it’s good for tbh but I don’t care
anything u dont bring brews to and u bring sharks to currently
dawn jackal
why would i vote without complete information
lone remnant
why can't they give rates for hte new fishing
they cant even give rates for mokha
jagex changes and denies
small anvil
Specifics would give people a reason to oppose things
They're petrified of people opposing things
plush gull
Not even sure what it’s good for tbh but I don’t care
why would you vote yes then
tawny tide
why would you vote yes then
Because it’s dumb to vote no
tawny tide
It’s not space for other content the what if stuff is dumb
hard axle
tawny tide
Is heals 22 just like 5 other fish
Idc if there’s 20 different fish that heal 22
Why not
thick beacon
aramdyl brew seems kinda op imo
dawn jackal
fishing trolling is the only cool update it actually kind of involves sailing in the skilling
all the other stuff is just existing contect locked behind a sailing level
tawny tide
I’m starting to want jagex to stop polling. This fan base is so dumb lol
plush gull
i hate all of this im voting no
dawn jackal
but without a rate for fishing trolling i am hesitant to vote
hard axle
restive siren
All of it will pass anyways
small anvil
It's not the sorta thing that could even fail
static zealot
I love all of it and am voting yes. hard food is trash rn
hard axle
I love all of it and am voting yes. hard food is trash rn
buff hard food 
restive siren
Yup better food good
hard axle
brews are way too strong
plush gull
hard food will still be trash
small anvil
They just don't provide details so that people have no reason to vote no on anything
???
thick beacon
ye idk why they added second brew type of item
buffing hard food seems good imo but more brew items idk
small anvil
The 22+5pray is kinda hmm
plush gull
im voting yes to armadyl brews and i want them to not drain magic
small anvil
Better bwan whatever
dawn jackal
we almost have 0 reason to go to karamja now how exciting is that
tawny tide
Stoked to do mortanyia elite at lvl 90 fishing now
plush gull
+5 prayer to a 22 healing food is just weird an unnecessary, id rather see a lower level fish with more prayer
vestal cosmos
Even though cooked red crabs are going to be beyond useless I still want them in the game because the weird item collector in me is excited
thick beacon
im voting yes to armadyl brews and i want them to not drain magic
am curious why do u like brew but not the food?
noble vortex
@tawny tide stop with the instigating.
narrow folio
Wheres this armadyl brew?
plush gull
am curious why do u like brew but not the food?
well i would use the brews and i would have fun doing so and it would also positively impact the inferno meta
thick beacon
i definitely agree brews are strong and something ppl would actually use
small anvil
When they're so obviously unrepentant and trying to cause shit
plush gull
Wheres this armadyl brew?
small anvil
https://tenor.com/view/omg-shy-gorgeous-gif-6596931759731678195
Like... Come on
noble vortex
Than just deleting the messages
Want me to beat him with a rubber duck or something? Lol 😅
plush gull
no that would be violent
small anvil
This paired with them just accusing everyone of breaking tos
hard axle
I really wish t hey'd just bite the bullet and add a reasonable magic potion wit...
honestly, just make forgotten brew the same as +12
small anvil
Is beyond the pale of what should be acceptable regardless of whatever they disagree with
hard axle
That way saturated heart can be +13 and still piss off irons 
frail nebula
honestly, just make forgotten brew the same as +12
Nah, I don't think that's the way to go
As brews, they're just weird
hard axle
why not
frail nebula
no divine version
tawny tide
Like... Come on
Move on please as the mods have suggested.
hard axle
armadyl brew is the same
dawn jackal
why couldnt' they move karamthula from that dumb pirate quest
frail nebula
a massive pain in the ass to get
dawn jackal
and add that to the squid roster
noble vortex
Move on please as the mods have suggested.
Stop baiting reactions.
frail nebula
also like
dawn jackal
karamthula is a way cooler squid than "giant squid"
small anvil
No mod told me to move on between you posting that and me calling it out
frail nebula
we have divine and battlemage potions
small anvil
You're obviously trying to start shit
frail nebula
and they are so aggressively resistant to making them not be useless lol
noble vortex
You're obviously trying to start shit
He is so please don’t take the bait.
frail nebula
I just want a reasonable consumable alternative to a heart
narrow folio
Moving on applies to everyone
frail nebula
I'd even settle for a reasonable way to get ancient brews
plush gull
make the blue crab give 14 prayer points
tawny tide
I am the only one moving on.
small anvil
People doing that should have more done than just deleting their instigating posts... Like warning or mutes surely
tawny tide
Unreal lol
dawn jackal
what is the point by the way of the fishing potion
narrow folio
Just do nex
dawn jackal
like whats the intended use
narrow folio
I wish ancient brews could be divined and keeping them 1 level off of heart is fine. Heart is still infinite.
tacit wharf
like whats the intended use
more herb xp
dawn jackal
just a requirement skip for people who don't wish to interact with the game?
not a soul will use it while fishing i'm confused why this would even exist
waste of a color palette imo
tawny tide
Fishing boost lets irons get antivenoms a level sooner 
vestal cosmos
Also the anti bleed potion looks totally useless too
narrow folio
A bis stat boost should not be locked behind ages of mindless slayer
frail nebula
I wish ancient brews could be divined and keeping them 1 level off of heart is f...
forgotten brews are the only case besides zammy brews where the brew version offers a significantly better bonus than an equivalent potion
small anvil
Also I didn't see a move on message? (guys just gaslighting you into believing one was sent?)
narrow folio
I mean forgotten
frail nebula
also brews are so annoying to use that nobody uses zammy brews even though they're technically BiS for melee
literally nobody uses them
narrow folio
I'm all for powercreeping food
hard axle
also brews are so annoying to use that nobody uses zammy brews even though they'...
zammy brews are not bis at all, huh?
narrow folio
Zammy is also not divine
small anvil
Isn't zammy bis for atk
tawny tide
Food can have infinite overlapping options
frail nebula
zammy brews are not bis at all, huh?
they offer a better attack boost than super attack
zammy brew + super strength is BiS
but once again
nobody uses that
plush gull
Isn't zammy bis for atk
yes by like +2 and it drains down to divine in 2 minutes
hard axle
nobody uses it because its minor as hell
rare grotto
Also I didn't see a move on message? (guys just gaslighting you into believing o...
lol u can permanently bait in here silly
get with the meta
small anvil
Ya
hard axle
and they patched out the ONE use
rare grotto
😎
frail nebula
yes by like +2 and it drains down to divine in 2 minutes
that's kinda my whole point about how brews can be BiS but at still a pain in the ass to use
compared to normal pots
that can be divine
and why ancient/forgotten brews are not a great alternative to the heart
hard axle
idk, 112 mage pot even if not divine would be great because you can brew + mage pot again
narrow folio
Also I didn't see a move on message? (guys just gaslighting you into believing o...
You are correct. But we will handle it appropriately, so responding to bait isn't ideal.
plush gull
that's kinda my whole point about how brews can be BiS but at still a pain in th...
ok idk what ur point is tho, armadyl brews are op, basically super guthix rests if ur using ranged
rare grotto
zammy brews are not bis at all, huh?
used at tekton
frail nebula
without even considering why they prohibitively difficult to obtain
rare grotto
used to be ok at verz p2 as well
narrow folio
Maybe speedrunners do that
hard axle
used at tekton
not that relevant after the gauranteed maul
frail nebula
ok idk what ur point is tho, armadyl brews are op, basically super guthix rests ...
I'm talking about ancient/forgotten brews
plush gull
I'm talking about ancient/forgotten brews
yeah those suck heart is op
hard axle
armadyl brews are going to be nasty
tawny tide
Nobody is going to believe me because yall seem hellbent that I was baiting but I have used the term “bought accounts” multiple times talking about mains leveling up skills via the ge.
I don’t mean buying accounts illegally but I understand the confusion and will not use that phrase in the future ❤️
vestal cosmos
nobody uses it because its minor as hell
What was it? Redemption cheese or something?
narrow folio
A skilling method for lily of the sands please
Sail to a desert island where we can get them idk
frail nebula
A skilling method for lily of the sands please
kinda shocking that we don't have seeds for them tbh
could plant them in a flower patch
rare grotto
not that relevant after the gauranteed maul
it's just part of the prepot, it's all minor anyway
narrow folio
Yup
hard axle
What was it? Redemption cheese or something?
no, zamorak > scb for 120 atk + 118 str
for tekton basically
hard axle
it's just part of the prepot, it's all minor anyway
fair
rare grotto
oh i used it a bit at pnm.. but yeah grasping at straws regarding its use cases
hard axle
again, I think they should start with 112 mage pots by buffing forgotten brew and if they want to buff mage/battlemage, they can do that
hard axle
But if this was melee, I would personally prefer a melee saturated heart and having non-divine boost pots
I know most would
same for ranged
narrow folio
Because the dmg is annoying
frail nebula
the saturated heart as a whole was pretty bad design IMO
hard axle
Because the dmg is annoying
slap on the damage
idc
but the point is
being able to brew and then go back up to the same stats
is MASSIVE
frail nebula
like if we had divine super magic pots for the same effect as a saturated heart, the game would be healthier for it imo
hard axle
that's why I'm for 112 magic on forgotten brews
narrow folio
If it's accessible enough but not hearts rarity
Heart's thing should just be infinite use, not bis boost
hard axle
The issue is Neb is not liking it coming from forgotten brews because they don't want to farm nihil shards
and I don't think they should be a bar ngl
Armadyl Brews are the same and going to be crazy powerful
its essentially 40 more hp per pot at inferno
plush gull
sooo good for inferno meta, we gotta make early capes meta
hard axle
the saturated heart as a whole was pretty bad design IMO
The current design of being able to divine, but not go back up to the stats is the issue, not so much you can't divine without heart
plush gull
itll also motivate people to learn correct solves with the def drain
restive siren
Lol
thick beacon
thats a good point defense drain is something to balance it
frail nebula
and I don't think they should be a bar ngl
ancient/forgotten brews just feel so backwards in design
the base potion requires drops from nex
and then you upgrade it with drops from... muspah
frail nebula
I feel like they really should just be the other way around
frail nebula
it's not even just that
no divine version's annoying
you'd realistically never use it in a situation where you also want to use another style
it's like every single part of it was designed with the intent that it should not be useful
small anvil
Ya idk why it's so bad. It was same content update right
frail nebula
what?
hard axle
<@213072072472133633> tldr on those new pots
each dose is half a brew
AND
ranging pot
you lose melee stats
rare grotto
so it's like brew scb but for ranged
frail nebula
each dose is half a brew
more than half a brew, no?
hard axle
fucking nasty
rare grotto
and that's for just ranged
hard axle
stupid fucking good
rare grotto
or mage/melee get em as well
plush gull
u lose magic too, unlike forgotten brew which doesnt drain ranged
wish i could use them as super guthix rests with mage
hard axle
and that's for just ranged
just ranged
I wish we got bandosian pots man
holy fk
that would be nutty
hard axle
frail nebula
9+2=11
hard axle
yeah that's fucking nasty
frail nebula
yeah arma brews are gonna be great whenever you're only ranging and don't care about defence
actually come to think of it, they're fine for range/mage too
plush gull
its interesting that they add them just when mage becomes competitive with ranged, tbf range is the only style with worse sustain
plush gull
actually come to think of it, they're fine for range/mage too
how, they drain mage
plush gull
u lose magic too, unlike forgotten brew which doesnt drain ranged
wish i could ...
i just complained about it 😭
hard axle
again, that's why I think forgotten brews should be similar
if we're adding armadyl brews, mage shouldn't be an issue
frail nebula
again, that's why I think forgotten brews should be similar <:erm:12723292203407...
wish granted, forgotten brews now also drain range
hard axle
forgotten only heals prayer atm
frail nebula
no other changes
plush gull
i need armadyl brews now i cant wait X months
frail nebula
I will continue to advocate for good magic potions right up until I get a heart drop
at which point I will vehemently gatekeep it
||/s||
sacred skiff
This is the way
kind sail
honestly heart should have never existed in the first place
should have been a divine magic pot with heart level of boost
frail nebula
should have been a divine magic pot with heart level of boost
exactly what I'm arguing
narrow folio
The ranger boots of boost pots
narrow folio
Didn't matter that much at the time cause bis was sang but now with shadow and eye it's real useful and a problem with accessibility.
rugged stream
Is there any consideration to use sun-kissed boned in the sailing integration? It's a useless item post-99 prayer..
sacred skiff
I’m not sure I believe you that Eye exists
kind sail
Is there any consideration to use sun-kissed boned in the sailing integration? I...
hope not being locked to a specific skill like it is now
frail nebula
hope not being locked to a specific skill like it is now
sorry :(
kind sail
would rather be able to trade them for something
narrow folio
You just have to...see
kind sail
maybe trade them for splinters or something
sacred skiff
Lol I love the post-99 sunkissed bones making my claims “so” valuable
frail nebula
this is what my log looks like at 94 deep delves and 1800 total delves
just get the drop
kind sail
lmao
frail nebula
the counterpoint is stuff like this
frail nebula
frail nebula
2857 kc for the first synapse
I also went over 5x dry at demonics
I'm just glad to have a demon that doesn't hate me
narrow folio
I recommend not going dry
austere mulch
Bandosian brews when 
true talon
Bandosian brews when <a:Begging:907745181254680576>
they could just change zamorak brews lol
if they dont damage you they would be the same
however crazy we got a ranging brew before a useful mage pot/brew lol
austere mulch
however crazy we got a ranging brew before a useful mage pot/brew lol
What about forgotten brew!!!
I want bandos brew for the 120str since we’re not going to get a meaningful str bonus increase
Also I’m pretty sure that’s what they’re using to progress toward overloads
All of the god brews + forgotten brew + remedy + something else
And maybe that was their master plan all along as to why they only put an additional 1 str on boots
true talon
wouldnt know this content is tilting me
its unrewarding as fuck and stressful
Atleast the 1 tick mage was fixed and that improved it a bit
fierce dust
is there a thread for delve glitch with grubs? Some dont take hits. some do but are delayed to explode
sacred skiff
The content is generally fun for me (just a wave 7 claimer tho), but damn if it isn’t punishing as shit.
One tiny mistake and you dead, even potentially on like 4 or 5. At least you aren’t losing any meaningful loot though lol
hard axle
The content is generally fun for me (just a wave 7 claimer tho), but damn if it ...
good good
my ass gets sat at 10-11-12
sacred skiff
Champ
hard axle
just give me the pet and let me out man
sacred skiff
I’ll trade my pet for boots + wand, dm me
Honestly the one fix I really need is for Mokha not to jebait me with 1 tick of mage/range prayers before hitting me with the Demon Shield Cancel Tech
true talon
my ass gets sat at 10-11-12
8 is no different than 9 lol
hard axle
8 is no different than 9 lol
25 less hp 
true talon
what?
hard axle
8 is harder than 9
true talon
9 has less hp than 8?
hard axle
The tradeoff is because there’s lava pools on floor
hard axle
9 has less hp than 8?
Yes
true talon
coulda sworn all 8+ is 650 hp
hard axle
You basically have to freestyle at some point
true talon
I look at % lol
fierce dust
I figured out the bug. Grubs arent showing overheads
hard axle
Because it’s not enough space
hard axle
I figured out the bug. Grubs arent showing overheads
Did u hide npc 2d?
hard axle
done it before
hard axle
Honestly the one fix I _really_ need is for Mokha not to jebait me with 1 tick o...
I really hope 8+ is actually better rates
or this shit is just 
i stg if 1-6 is meta
there will be 
true talon
I really hope 8+ is actually better rates
judging by everyone i see running really high delves, it dont appear to be.
i think gnomonkey has 2 pets only in all the delves he done pushing 15+ each time
hard axle
judging by everyone i see running really high delves, it dont appear to be.
ik
that's why im worried 😭
sacred skiff
I didn’t get shit (but pet) for 700 delves and got my first cloth within 30 mins of running 1-5s
Which, like, anecdotal evidence but still
hard axle
especially with double nerfs coming
obsidian venture
that's why im worried 😭
It should be but there’s so lil deep delves done compared to <6
true talon
Very unmotivating content to grind
sacred skiff
But have gone back to 1-7s since car patch cuz it’s just more fun than 1-5 anyway
obsidian venture
They should push the rewards from 2/3/4 to 4/5/6
sacred skiff
Yeah wave 2 is a joke to be dropping uniques lol
obsidian venture
Don’t need to reward bis for folks switching their overheads after a billy ticks for delves 1-4
sacred skiff
especially with double nerfs coming
What?
obsidian venture
Is delve boss bugged today @hard axle
hard axle
yes
sacred skiff
Oh yeah that
The delve boss is a bug. And he summons more bugs. Do with that what you will
hard axle
The delve boss _is_ a bug. And he summons more bugs. Do with that what you will
no no, I got same ticked
by a melee projectile with the boulder triple
they fucked it up on wednesday
sacred skiff
That hasn’t happened to me, is it only on 8+?
hard axle
3/4/8
sacred skiff
Weird
hard axle
increidblly rare though
true talon
Boss is dumb when pushing deeper is just killing it car to avoid it spreading more acid or getting earth orb
sacred skiff
We should be able to smith spike strips
narrow folio
Boss needs to be nerfed in difficulty for sure
sacred skiff
Need for Speed: Underground style
narrow folio
Unfair mechanics making up most of it
hard axle
idk, I kinda like it
true talon
yes a lot of jank mecanic and special overlap make it difficult but clunky
hard axle
like u lengthening car dash = more tbow its
sacred skiff
The boss feels fair through 7 imo, except when there are no rocks to shelter behind
narrow folio
Stupid melee grubs, baiting punish, rock spamming
sacred skiff
But you can’t just run forever or you’ll get beamed
true talon
melee grubs are like so stupid
sacred skiff
Melee grubs are ass though
narrow folio
Not nulling attacks on punish
true talon
0 tick melee when you break the shield chasing a melee grub
sacred skiff
Oh yeah that one also sucks
narrow folio
Im never doing 8 from what I hear 
narrow folio
Its even worse now?
true talon
you can get a 8 clear with never having to deal with double orb
sacred skiff
Got 65 whole earth runes for my troubles
true talon
you just zcb it on start hit a 70+ with tbow to push it to shield
ten kill it with car
easy boss
sacred skiff
I had 2 sets of double boulders, but got lucky on the DPS skip before first orb with scobow and bp
true talon
https://i.imgur.com/ZSqYchA.png
i hate wave 5, if you dont kill in car it will go into another shield phase for no reason
like why does it just spam specials and inconsistent phasing?
true talon
I mean if your boss not functioning is its difficulty, then you missed your mark.
every strategy is to just dps check everything that dont work lol
hard axle
i hate wave 5, if you dont kill in car it will go into another shield phase for ...
drag it diagonal
then drag it max distance
3 more bow hits
true talon
I think phosani is more rewarding than this thing and its uniques are worthless
hard axle
1500 delves still nothing lol
900 delves no items, 40 deep delves so far
just give me pet
hard axle
Oh it never occurred to me to drag w5 car further to lengthen car phase
its just hte most risk free wave since no shockwave
the other ones are more risky
hasty shard
It should be but there’s so lil deep delves done compared to <6
tbh good
amount of people wanting to make doom braindead is agonising
sacred skiff
Yeah w6-7 i’m def just trying to find cover
tacit wharf
cloth
hasty shard
and 150 for shadow <a:BSighPat:984926036548546620>
but this time everyone runs the 150
sacred skiff
Ah makes sense
true talon
amount of people wanting to make doom braindead is agonising
its already braindead??
you can do wave 8 without interacting with a single mechanic
if you hit hard enough an get lucky
hard axle
i dont disagree loot is ass, but calling it braindead is eh
true talon
i died because i had to interact with the mechanic XD
minor whale
The mechanic isn't that punishing though lmao
And "just dps it" is a legit strategy for SO many bosses, it's not invalid for that to be a possibility for this one
And you have to be doing good spec regen timing + death charging off cd + getting lucky for it to be something you can rely on to get through that phase
fossil epoch
Fair wanting boots to be moved later on, gauntlets and staff is supposed to help reduce the gap up to shadow, there was no way jagex was gonna make it require higher delves. Would be stupid especially with how end game gear just lets you skip phases
hard axle
Fair wanting boots to be moved later on, gauntlets and staff is supposed to help...
tbf, u can still easily get to 4 with just scobow
so if u wanna slap wand on there, that's fine
true talon
Fair wanting boots to be moved later on, gauntlets and staff is supposed to help...
id want the drop rates to be reasonable its currently a fucking mess
fossil epoch
The drops do seem to be insanely rare especially later delves compared to how much the fight scales in intensity
hard axle
And you have to be doing good spec regen timing + death charging off cd + gettin...
yeah, claiming it's just a dps check and to hit hard to skip mechanics is just no lmao cuz rng will eventually run out
obsidian venture
Bro ill be honest
If you're missing dps for the car, you are probably just missing the hits
obsidian venture
Seen folks complain about getting dps checked and they're missing like 2-4 shots
hard axle
they are
minor whale
I don't think necessarily that having 5/6/7/8 all being same chances (if it's rolling 3 uniques each wave) is that bad of a way of balancing it because 1/2/3/4 take just so much time with less drops along the way
Assuming each wave past 4 is ~1:30 for someone farming it out, it's a substantial time save to be doing deeper delves
You might not be getting "better odds" but you're getting those odds for a way larger % of the time doing them
true talon
sun-kissed bones woo!
minor whale
They could MAYBE make it scale a tiny bit extra past delve 4
But I worry that'd make it just so much more common
fossil epoch
tbf, u can still easily get to 4 with just scobow
Doing 1-3 for staff still means you are wasting a ton of time already, moving it to 4 would mean that even more idk.
I already hate wave 1 cuz it doesnt have drops. It feels like such a waste of time. Wouldnt improve my feeling of the delves if i had to go even further without drops starting to appear. Especially when the delve skip token didnt make it through
true talon
But I worry that'd make it just so much more common
no such thing as to common
minor whale
🙄
small anvil
Classic Tass, skipping one mechanics= skip all mechanics
obsidian venture
1-4 is like doing jad
true talon
yama was perfectly fine
hard axle
Doing 1-3 for staff still means you are wasting a ton of time already, moving it...
if it is balanced appropriately at earlier delves, I think that's fine
obsidian venture
no shot it needs to be rewarded
minor whale
Whole game would be fucking pointless if every drop was a 5 hour grind
obsidian venture
legit
dire mango
There's absolutely a thing as "too common"
he just wants osrs balanced as a single player game
obsidian venture
but endgame boss shouldn't rewards the billybobs who don't make it past delve 4
for bis items
simple as
true talon
but endgame boss shouldn't rewards the billybobs who don't make it past delve 4
lol calling people billybobs is such an elitest moronic mindset
obsidian venture
lol calling people billybobs is such an elitest moronic mindset
what else you want me to call em? fingerless?
hasty shard
hey, tbow from cow 1/500
people will argue this is fine because most people havent killed 500 cows
small anvil
lol calling people billybobs is such an elitest moronic mindset
Are we allowed to call mindsets moronic now? But not takes/opinions?
minor whale
Do you think people getting 500 points by the time Olm is dead should have an equal chance of getting a tbow as someone who pops out a smooth 60k raid?
hard axle
he just wants osrs balanced as a single player game
u know what this reminds me of, people who play pokemon nuzlockes but asking for the nuzlockes to be more lenient like the maingame storyline
dire mango
it's fine to be a billybob. the billybobs are the ones that have the most fun playing this game.
true talon
what else you want me to call em? fingerless?
how about call them players? why are you sterotyping people of less skill level than yourself? you started somewhere.
true talon
i dont call lfr raiders in wow rodents
minor whale
Bro are you that upset about someone calling people noobs lmfao
small anvil
Should bad play earn the best rewards?
true talon
Should bad play earn the best rewards?
i mean it does all the end game content in this game doesnt reward shit.
you get more rewards from revs or zombie pirates than you do most bossing
minor whale
People who can't complete the inferno shouldn't get an inferno cape
That's not an elitist mindset to have if they suddenly said "What if we moved inferno cape to wave 54 of the Inferno "
You get more rewards from revs or zombie pirates?
obsidian venture
Tass is a billybob is why he's taking it seriously
minor whale
On what fucking planet
hard axle
how about call them players? why are you sterotyping people of less skill level ...
I dont ever think I ever demanded shit to be changed to be easier ngl 
And if I did, it probably was a joke or the content really was annoying as shit.
minor whale
Are you on
Yeah when I was a shit player I looked at hard content and went "I hope to be able to do that some day"
minor whale
I didn't go "Why is this grind so long I wish they made it quicker for me :("
obsidian venture
Jagex SUCKS at rewarding progression
true talon
I dont ever think I ever demanded shit to be changed to be easier ngl <:Hmm:6276...
I just dont think delves is rewarding for its difficult and i dont think its selling point of being endless scaling boss matches its difficulty as clearly 8 was meant to be hard but not to the level it currently is and only reason its hard, is because the boss doesnt work. hes basically attacking like hes playing leagues.
hard axle
i mean it does all the end game content in this game doesnt reward shit.
dude, you know why. Anyone whose advocated lowering thralls down and shifting shit away from higher tier content is guilty of this
minor whale
Other than the bug I haven't seen yet where he can send out autos during his orb
hard axle
people don't want endgame to be overly rewarding because they're selfish as they can't do it
minor whale
The boss isn't that buggy lol
true talon
dude, you know why. Anyone whose advocated lowering thralls down and shifting sh...
i dont think anyone advocated for thralls to go to master tier lol
hard axle
even minor shit like thralls
hard axle
i dont think anyone advocated for thralls to go to master tier lol
people definitely asked for the point system shift
minor whale
Every single person I've seen complain and cry about how "The boss isn't hard it's just SO buggy!" is kinda just shit at the boss
hard axle
Every single person I've seen complain and cry about how "The boss isn't hard it...
yeah ive seen 1 exact bug
and it was overlaying projectiles
obsidian venture
Every single person I've seen complain and cry about how "The boss isn't hard it...
avg for osrs players
rare grotto
😂
minor whale
I've done quite a bit when I have the time and other than one time having rocks block me from delving deeper, I've not encountered any bugs
Every single time I die it's a skill issue
rare grotto
victim mentality imo
true talon
Then you have no attention to detail, because spamming grub spawns, double rocks and melee punish over an over is def a bug, along with it phasing from a melee punish into a grub shield after orb phase for no real reason.
minor whale
It having rng specials it can do without a cap isn't a bug
You just got rnged
Sucks to suck
true talon
lets not forget the overlapping melee orbs with triple pray orbs
minor whale
Spamming grub spawns?
That's like half the fucking point of higher delves lmao
rare grotto
not the 2 mechanics at once 😮💨
true talon
there is a ton of difficulty inflation on this boss, because it was not tested much past wave 8
rare grotto
how could jagex do it
minor whale
lets not forget the overlapping melee orbs with triple pray orbs
Nobody forgot it we quite literally already addressed it
obsidian venture
gm, today we can offer yet another day of tassilichatting. Enjoy your stay.
dw mods won't do anything
rare grotto
if u cant beat em, join em 💪
obsidian venture
I hope I didn't misread up above but apparently "uim" is a slur?
minor whale
If you're that upset about the boss having mechanics you have to deal with simultaneously then perhaps the boss isn't for you
Because none of these seem like bugs lmao
hard axle
there is a ton of difficulty inflation on this boss, because it was not tested m...
wait, what do u think is past wave 8
dire mango
wait, what do u think is past wave 8
wave 9
rare grotto
delve is such a boss catered for elitist, all it does it promote deep delves. I spend all my time getting to w6 and never see any purples
true talon
wait, what do u think is past wave 8
wave 9 lol
true talon
delve is such a boss catered for elitist, all it does it promote deep delves. I ...
this statement would be true if it did XD, currently it does not.
true talon
yes 9 is same as 8 more acid thats it
wispy current
Would arma pots be meta for inferno
minor whale
The acid on wave 9 is not some mechanic limiter that they needed to test for lmao
true talon
I mean when i look at how the boss actually functions, i see the visions of boss goes into car, comes out of car, does orb, then does a melee punish, you use melee punish to spawn holy water to clear acid and you bait the boss to each part of the root on lower floors using the holy water mechanic to clear up space.
minor whale
It's wave 8 but now less safe places to stand
true talon
if thats not the case, why the fuck does holy water mechanic even exist?
minor whale
As a bonus for people to try to do if diving extremely deep that they can attempt to force but would waste time overall if you're just waiting for it
true talon
boss just decides it dont wanna do melee punish at low health an goes instantly into another grub phase?
it throws up the melee punish but then phases into grub shield, you think thats intentional?
narrow folio
I think thats an insane bug
true talon
it has to be
hard axle
Would arma pots be meta for inferno
without fail
hard axle
boss just decides it dont wanna do melee punish at low health an goes instantly ...
okay so, if they space this out, it does make it easier
which is fine
but i don't think that's necessarily a bug tbh. I'd rather it go straight into shield instead of melee punish
it's a lot more chill
true talon
its very clear that the boss released broken and everyone was like wow this boss is great, its super difficult and punishing. i love this and they just went with it lol.
No boss in this game just spams specials with no cooldown
even vard has some level of predictability
it introduces encounters were billys boss autos you with range or 10 hits, while woox boss double boulder melee punish summons 3 red grubs for 10 hits.
hard axle
vard ehhhhhh
no
definitely not lmao
have u seen awakened vard hell
there's no cooldown on the heads
u can get b3b double head prayer disables
that's why I've been saying 8/8+ is very like awakened vard
focus on dodging mechanics and then hit
true talon
yea 8+ reminds me of vard lol
but even vard has health scaling to his mechanics
he dont just open with blasting you
hard axle
well, he's also not 7200 hp by delve 10
obsidian venture
have u seen awakened vard hell
Idt he's potted that
But there's vods of it
Sometimes you get hella unlucky
last onyx
https://x.com/SynqShot/status/1949165627534393431
I used to rage like that until i started bringing 6-way melee switch with hally to counter it, cba anymore xD
hard axle
I used to rage like that until i started bringing 6-way melee switch with hally ...
6 way holy hell
I just I would just restart at wave 1 lmao
last onyx
I just I would just restart at wave 1 lmao
Got tired of dieing to b2b2b2b2b2b2b boulders, 1st projectile of each boulder was also invisible so many times due to server lagg. Only way i can counter is it c-hally with lots of switches to avoid the mechanic
hard axle
fair
last onyx
It's actually a lot more fun too