game-update

[wide gull]

at least reset the board

[remote sphinx]

"Stopping special attack energy from regenerating between levels while players are looting or not in combat."

can this be made to just not stop the timer? let the milkers milk but dont make the speeders afk

[half flame]

Master Farmers in Civitas Illa Fortis will no longer stand still indefinitely after being spoken to.

rip

[dreamy pelican]

No droprates?!

[remote sphinx]

droprates are usually 2weeks

[fossil epoch]

Good, thats clearly a bug lol

[winged mantle]

no mention of any change to melee punish into shield charge fix

[fading galleon]

i have a feeling more bugs are going to appear after the update

[wide gull]

did they not address the arrow useage on grubs?

or do we get to keep burning arrows

[fading galleon]

no which is dissapointing

[ornate tangle]

I also need this arrow glitch fixing! 🙁

[remote sphinx]

ive switched to amethyst arrows lol

[ornate tangle]

ironman btw

[marsh moon]

right?? Literally no mention of it anywhere

[remote sphinx]

go rune then =p

[wispy geode]

How long is the update for fam? 😦

[ember token]

same as always

[ornate tangle]

Might have to test the DPS difference on rune vs dragon. i have 100k rune arrows XD

[remote sphinx]

dibs

[wispy geode]

I'm not on enough to know how long that is haha

[vivid whale]

wasn't the mage grub fix going to require a huge amount of engine work? and they've fixed it but just for purging staff? the wording is really throwing me off

[winged mantle]

rune with tbow is good enough

[ember token]

0-1 minutes

[remote sphinx]

no downtime unless they say so

[dire mango]

How do you not have a million amethyst arrows like all irons 😭

[shadow wave]

There isn't an arrow glitch, people have shown avas is saving arrows, you're just using them faster than you're used to

[summer badger]

A new audience member has appeared near the stage in Rellekka's longhall to cheer on the bards, in memory of a member of Jagex's video team who recently passed away.

Awww :(((( very sweet memorial

[timber drift]

the real blog is always in the reddit comments

[stuck sinew]

Ah yes, you mean like half the game?

[brave hearth]

surpised they didn't nerf the red chin spot

it's basically as good as the one in prif if not better

[fossil epoch]

Half the game is not a bug, but an npc that never had to stand still, suddenly during so is clearly a bug.
Does it suck for you that its harder to afk pickpocket seeds? Yes, but it is something that should be fixed

[stuck sinew]

should 1 tick flicking be removed because it provides infinite prayer points

[ornate tangle]

Awesome stuff! So we can all benefit from the insta spell on grubs, even with a shite staff 😄

[brave hearth]

comparing 1 tick flicking to afk tieving sure is something

[stuck sinew]

arent they both bugs?

[timber drift]

i'm giving the kodai some daylight poor neglected child

[ornate tangle]

My kodai is still an insignia 🙁

[final frigate]

is this regarding the mage 1t

xddddddd good comms jagex as always

[timber drift]

im just happy it isnt a 3x demonbane boss

[remote sphinx]

pray flicking is basically a feature at this point

[timber drift]

well 2x but 1 is reserved for arclight

[remote sphinx]

but technically yes it is a bug

[minor whale]

Zzzzz
There's acceptable levels of effort vs reward that Jagex allows
Is clicking 2 time every .6 seconds on rhythm equivalent to you to...talking to the farmer a single time?

[flat delta]

Man

[timber drift]

ngl theres like 2 places in the game where prayer flicking helps and at both of those places you can just pot prayer rejuv

[flat delta]

They switched the update tex

*text

"The Purging Staff now benefits from reduced attack delay on demonic larvae, matching the behaviour of other Demonbane weapons."

[marsh moon]

At the point where things (CAs) are balanced around a bug, it's not really a bug

[fossil epoch]

Besides "remove 1 tick flick" argument being the most used whenever someone doesnt get what they want. Lets look past that..
1 tick flicking was a part of osrs from the day it launched, and therefor it is part of the game.
Adding a method to pickpocket an npc that is supposed to move arround, without it moving, is a big enough change that if anything, it should be polled before being added.
So yes it was added without the intention of having this feature. So its a bug that should get removed.
Was prayer flicking added without that intention aswell? Yes, but its a part of the game that was ported, and is not a big part of whats seen as skill expression

[flat delta]

"Demonbane spells" now benefits from reduced attack delay on demonic larvae, matching the behaviour of other Demonbane weapons.

[timber drift]

they arent you dont need to 1t anywhere brother

it is one of the most effort with least reward things in the game

[dire mango]

When jagex knows about it, acknowledges it and actively balances around it it's not a bug anymore even though it might've started out as one. Nice bait

[timber drift]

just pretend it doesnt exist

[minor whale]

Exactly
It's not a bug anymore, there's legitimately combat achievements to use 0 prayer points at all, which is most easily done via 1t flicking

[lofty venture]

Why isn't the droprate released this update? :\

[minor whale]

2 weeks, almost always

[stuck sinew]

fair enough however i didnt know clicking a prayer orb 2 times every tick was a big skill expression 😂 my bad boys

[still orbit]

Today update timing

[marsh moon]

you can just do 0 prayer fight caves by shoving food in your face instead and hoping rng doesnt punish you, definitely the intended way to do it over 1t flicking

[timber drift]

you can just lazyflick beast

hope this helps

[ember token]

jagex simply didn't intended for the varlamore master farmers to be "better" than the others

[fossil epoch]

Cant argue with people who just wants to cry, go at it king, cry your tears out about the nerf. Is what it is

[safe elk]

I hope they make delve boss a bit more manageable. Too many things going on at once. Can’t even chill smoke at delve

[stuck sinew]

I forgot if my opinion was differing to yours i must be crying, you people always do that and its embarassing, learn that others have a different opinion to you

[wispy current]

Bong smokers in shambles

[safe elk]

Painful boss for chillers

[marsh moon]

Ah yes, and that's distinctly not a bug, especially the bit where you falkador shield to restore the marginal invisibnle prayer loss that normal prayer pots dont fill

[fossil epoch]

Your whole arguement continues being
"Someone else, gets something, that has nothing to do with what im losing, so they should also lose that"

Instead express why you think it should stay

[stuck sinew]

My whole argument was based around bugs being fixed

[fossil epoch]

Not why something else should be removed aswell

[timber drift]

i see we're moving the goalpost gl clicking farmers mate

[marsh moon]

Moving goalposts? youre saying the 1t flicking is a bug and isn't needed for CAs whilst pointing to another mechanic which is arguably just as much a bug but still needed for the CA

[sullen mica]

no rates this week?

[stuck sinew]

I actually don't care about the fact that master farmer got fixed however I'm pretty sure theres bigger things that dont get fixed 😂

[timber drift]

please point me to where i said it was a bug

i just said it wasnt needed for CA's

which is true

[stuck sinew]

@dire mango

if you want to invalidate others opinions the hasanabi stream isn't too far away

[tidal lark]

[timber drift]

at any rate you can still use martin to pickpocket like this provided you have nofail

well, likely so

[shut ibex]

Add the reactions to the discord announcement for the update just as any other announcement please

[stuck sinew]

I however do think we should fix 1 tick flicking and remove prayer flicking from the game

[tidal lark]

is this a joke

[stuck sinew]

This game should require no skill expression whatsoever

[true talon]

Glad they found a magic fix

[fading galleon]

bet you dont have a fire cape yet

[tidal lark]

ok its a joke phew

[marsh moon]

@timber drift This is where you started piping up lad

[dire mango]

it's ragebait. don't engage

[brave hearth]

bait used to be believable

[orchid drum]

Tell me more

[timber drift]

thats not me saying it was a bug

but ok

[timber drift]

talk to martin go one step through dialogue bam he's locked in place

[orchid drum]

Oh shit

Any cons? Same loot table as mf?

[timber drift]

people talking or you failing to pickpocket breaks it though

[tidal lark]

the beauty of free will is the ability to choose to be baited

[orchid drum]

Got it

[wild badger]

My condolences to the developers for losing one of their colleagues. ❤️

[timber drift]

the con is he will get angry if you break it unlike varla mfs

[stuck sinew]

I think it would be within the games best interest to make all thievable npc's stall when you talk to them

[timber drift]

you can use an alt that hasnt pickpocketed him tho

[marsh moon]

No you're just piping up where youre not involved for no reason and responding to half a message

[timber drift]

wdym piping up

[dire mango]

we're not safe yet until we see the actual implementation

[timber drift]

this is a public discord if i choose to involve myself there's nothing you can do about it

[rare grotto]

@dire mango if you want to invalidate others opinions the hasanabi stream isn't too far away

[stuck sinew]

its within reach im telling you

[naive tapir]

uninvolved 3rd party here but wtf is a hasanabi stream Lmaoo

[knotty herald]

use four alts to trap them on their spawn tile

[timber drift]

'political' 'streamer'

[tidal lark]

its some japanese spicy thing u put on sushi fr

hasawasabi

[stuck sinew]

i think its korean actually

[wind galleon]

are the drop rates going to be thrown up on the wiki? or are they telling us next week?

[rare grotto]

idk mentioning hasnbi is good indicator of how much you're online

😂

[naive tapir]

😂

[fading galleon]

its 2025 brozza we're all always online

[stuck sinew]

wild that a runescape player is saying someone is online a lot

🤣

[timber drift]

hey i only put in a casual 14 hours a day

[wind galleon]

rookie

[stuck sinew]

can u guys get some of ur other friends in here

[rare grotto]

i assure u market is not my friend

[timber drift]

i thought it was pretty funny that the reddit frontpage was like i made a plugin so wow streamers can learn 1tick flicking and im like brother this is some of the most useless and annoying mechanics in the game

[rare grotto]

he has cheated multiple times on me

[stuck sinew]

seems like the type

[rare grotto]

that is an opinion for sure

think they learned is because they like putting in effort

[stuck sinew]

yea 1 tick flicking should be removed its too hard to pull off when im trying to kill scurrius

[timber drift]

who said anything about effort

[rare grotto]

i did

[timber drift]

just funny people are getting gaslit into thinking its an extremely important mechanic or something

[rare grotto]

they're p good at wow, makes sense they want to optimize gameplay in osrs as well

[timber drift]

yeah i dont think thats a good place to start but ymmv

[tidal lark]

it is an extremely important mechanic tho

[stuck sinew]

they should make it so you hold left click on the prayer orb to 1 tick flick, its pretty hard

[woeful monolith]

There are rates on wiki for unique

[knotty herald]

hit up game suggestions and tell them you want quick pray keybinds and 2 extra quick prayer configs so everyone can properly play prayer ddr

[orchid drum]

it may not be “important”, but it certainly isn’t useless

[timber drift]

i guess its not useless just a ton of effort for very little payoff

[orchid drum]

Depends on who you ask, but yea it is a lot of clicking

[tidal lark]

infinite prayer is not little payoff

[orchid drum]

I loved having infinite prayer on my mid level iron

[timber drift]

prayer is already infinite effectively except like 2 pieces of content

[light olive]

are the servers being updated? when i try to login, it says server is being updated

[proper otter]

Hi guys, i see that the game is updating? how long will it take?

[dire mango]

1min until update yes.

[knotty herald]

soon

[light olive]

oh okay thanks

[fossil epoch]

0 downtime

[knotty herald]

sometimes

[orchid drum]

What

please explain

[timber drift]

prayer regens exist nowadays

[tidal lark]

aldarium sucks to get

[rare grotto]

if u wanna do content efficiently u don't have infinite prayer

[timber drift]

maybe but you dont have to flick

pick one

[shadow wave]

Confirmation from Jagex it's all in your minds

[dense light]

How long OSRS is being updated?

[timber drift]

not that you had to flick in the first place

[orchid drum]

10 hours

[tidal lark]

i pick flicking cuz im iron i cba with hours of mixology

[bright anchor]

By chance the bug in the geomancy spell been adressed that came with the release of new tree parches last week?

[brave hearth]

did the wiki get vandalized or something LOL

[thorn holly]

Flicking is handy as hell.

[timber drift]

are you like 1100 total with 3 prayer pots banked

[timber drift]

i checked the history and its a random editing so take the rates with a grain of salt

[rare grotto]

hoofi going at everyone thinking differently than him about pray flicking

[shadow wave]

Happens from time to time, you can revert by going to the History tab and reverting the latest revision

[tidal lark]

no im 1900 total with a lot of prayer pots

[rare grotto]

it's not that deep 😂

[timber drift]

im just saying its not a big problem

[rare grotto]

relax then

[timber drift]

unlike some ppl make it out to be

wdym relax lol

[brave hearth]

yeah i expect the chance to go up with deeper levels so this is a nothing burger to me

[orchid drum]

I disagree w him but he is relaxed

[timber drift]

ohh ur the toa troll when i was right and they changed the room a week later

LMAO

[thorn holly]

It's not a problem at all imo. It's handy but you can't really do it anywhere it matters unless you're pretty quick.

[shy badge]

damn nice 😄 u need to swap rsn to "PrayerPotGuy"

[tidal lark]

good idea

[timber drift]

are you like a known troll? on the blocklist you go

[fleet portal]

i hope this is fake news

if this is accurate i am insanly dry on everything

[timber drift]

it is a random edit by someone without an acc

make of that what you will

[tiny epoch]

yep i got merched for 3 mil nice

[fossil epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/CDdEonr.png

Mine still just as rare

[timber drift]

reverted by wiki admin

[fossil epoch]

I believe someone posted a jmod said on reddit its the entire spell

[orchid drum]

^

[tiny epoch]

yep

i got merched

[old tinsel]

Soo another week before they announce drop rates?

[nocturne solstice]

yeah

[winged mantle]

currently is yeah

[dire mango]

blog is updated as well

[timber drift]

the blog did initially only say purging staff but they quickly corrected it

😔

[bronze kernel]

It's only helpful at the very high end when resources are important and scarce. Or certain combat achievements.

[shadow wave]

Yeah, there appear to be a number of people with no lives and nothing better to do attempting to vandalise the doom page atm

[fossil epoch]

damn it feels nice with the mage spell buff

[dire mango]

merchers trying to capitalise on update day to get people to believe rates are out?

[brave hearth]

vandalizing wiki pages is an exp waste

[sage wren]

Where do you report bugs? The karambwan spot next to fairy ring is gone lol

[brave hearth]

uh oh

[shadow wave]

Always happens after an update

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Fishing_spot_(karambwan)

Trivia section here

[nocturne solstice]

Right click the red report button in game and click report game bug. But also for that spot just wait a bit.

[sage wren]

alright thanks guys

its back 😛

[worn juniper]

Are they addressing the bosses awful hitbox at all?

[shadow wave]

Yes

We’re improving the Delve boss’s clickboxes to reduce accidental misclicks during the fight.

In the section for next week's update

[true talon]

Deserved the boss doesnt drops shit and is still a mess of bugs.

They didnt change anything after an entire week and most the changes next week are still not addressing much,

[dire mango]

Found the culprit

[long acorn]

when was the last update ?

[timber drift]

15 mins ago

[true talon]

while i support jokes like that, im not going to go do it myself lol

[dire mango]

Yeah for "legal purposes" you can't say it was you 😉

[winged mantle]

"let's see if our playtesters players find more bugs for us"

[old tinsel]

This is a very underwhelming update

At least mage is 1t

[true talon]

I mean i expected a bit more, also they should have the melee punish turn off your attack like the other grub shield

its pretty annoying to go on 5 tick delay, because he threw up melee punish and you are about to shoot lol

I feel like the melee punish converting to a grub shield after orbs is a bug, or maybe it due to the attack not turning off and you get 1 hit on the boss to punish him, but if you accidently shoot the melee punish it converts to a grub shield.

Does look like melee punish is being investigated

Looks like its being raised for the attack disable

[fleet portal]

that would be a great change

[winged mantle]

i think it's a hp threshold mecahnic

I literally saw it change on it's own from melee punish into shield cahrge without me meleeing it because it was 8%hp left

[brittle ore]

I don't think people have spoken much about the bank layout changes yet, but I really like the mockups in the blog post. Throwing GIM and potion storage into a collapsible menu is clean and gives room to add more storage options, and the increased button size for amounts is super helpful for mobile so it's obvious different devices were considered.

The minor suggestions I have are to not have the bank remember if you had a container open when you reopen the bank, as the blog suggests. Basically every time I want to use my bank I want to start by using the primary bank, and having it open to gim storage etc just because I closed from there is going to be way more of a time loss on average rather than a time save. I would have suggested having external storage as a right click option to easily solve that, as you can right click something specific if you need it ad-hoc or minimenu reorder it if you're skilling from there or something for a while, but that's included already! To me that's completely sufficient to speed things up for edge cases. ignore this I totally misread this point on the blog

The other minor thing is that it took me a minute to work out what the swap/insert button represented. Tweaking that icon slightly, or ensuring it has a long tap description, would be helpful, especially for new players

[true talon]

If i had to guess the boss is prob meant to phase into a grub shield at 75 and 25, however it has another set order of grub into car into orb and it cant just skip the orb phase or start doing a grubd shield in the middle of orb phase.

so if you kill it during the car phase you skip the orb an the 25% grub

It does feel odd that after orb the boss goes into a melee punish an then converts to a grub shield

As often that melee punish would have finished it off

[winged mantle]

just lots of inconsistency of letting the player know what's coming

it feels unpredictable which doesn't feel great as a player

[true talon]

Ya its odd that the boss even in p1 can spam melee punishes

sometimes my p1 is all melee punishes lol

delv lvl 1*

[lone remnant]

Man, I thought I slacked at my job but it’s nice that the jmods were able to take the week off

Good for them

[winged mantle]

agreed tass

[true talon]

I mean, maybe its meant to not be a scripted boss

Not a bad thing, but it prob shouldnt be throwing shit out like enraged awakened vardorvis

it be like olm specialing you every single attack, instead of autoing lol

or verzik deciding to shoot out green balls every hit

[winged mantle]

something just feels off about not being able to predict what it's going to do

[true talon]

Ya most bosses are like every 3x basics the boss will do a special

[winged mantle]

we know the roations but it doesn't seem like there is a flow or consistent set of things it does 100% of the time

[true talon]

but this one is like, special, auto special special special special auto auto auto auto auto auto special special special special special special special lol

Boss out here playing leagues

[alpine sluice]

I am very baffled that the stop attack on melee punish wasn’t added. That literally is already a thing when the boss does the grub shield thing. Why not just add it really quick?

[hoary stirrup]

Do we know when the slayer block list changes are coming?

[lone remnant]

What? There is a flow to the boss and we know what it’s going to do lol

[true talon]

not really, the boss can literally shoot you 8 times in a row with double boulder on wave 8

or auto you 8 times

[winged mantle]

not at all

there is no set in stone "it will do this cycle of attacks at you"

[alpine sluice]

We don’t know the flow at all lol.

Aside from 75% shield

[true talon]

there is no flow, its literally just jank mess and if thats making it difficult then alright lol

[alpine sluice]

Yea. Wave 8+can fuck you hard if it wants to.

[alpine sluice]

Happened to me one time never again

Well if you let an boulder hit you it pushes you out of

[lone remnant]

Just get the boss to 75% it’s clear it’s just random between basic attack boulders and shield

Also I love redditors parroting that grubs eating arrows is ‘fake news’

I watched that shit eat my arrows day 1, then one day it just stopped. They aren’t even communicating that something was fixed

Internally between teams

[alpine sluice]

I was wondering why my arrow stack was going down so fast

[lone remnant]

It was much worse day 1

[exotic barn]

The reason it happens on the blue shield is because the NPC gets replaced by a new one for the shield health bar, not necessarily an intended mechanic for autos to stop but a bi-product of their way of designing it. I do wish they added it for the melee punish, not even any mention of it so far 😦

[lone remnant]

Now I think it’s relatively normal if not a little much

[alpine sluice]

They acknowledged a Reddit post

That’s a major issue imo. Idk how that wasn’t added. It’s easily my main cause of death.

[exotic barn]

Ok nice that's something at least, would have liked to have seen it in the list of upcoming changes

[hasty shard]

should be the opposite way around even imo

like if ur scobowing you want to keep attacking into blue shield really

[lone remnant]

Well back to waiting for a random side comment from a jmod in a twitch stream for information on what’s going to get fixed! (This is the most official channel for OSRS updates and changes!)

[drifting ginkgo]

was really hoping we'd get confirmed droprates today

[exotic barn]

Yeah, similarly I posted a clip of venator bow being used on grubs to deal 1t damage to grubs and that shit was hotfixed quickly with no communication, the way they fixed it kinda fucked other things like using non-demonbane weapons to kill grubs as they got inside him since the grubs no longer get delayed as long

[tight brook]

They said in reddit post they cant replicate internally. Wat LOL

[true talon]

This happens after 2 weeks always.

[drifting ginkgo]

ah

[true talon]

owell, maybe when i return from my wow break the boss will function 🙂

Another point is, why does this boss melee?

why cant it just range/mage you with melee orbs like other bosses.
Why are we having melee just not be viable.

[atomic locust]

Why would the bug boss just let you stand right in its face

Of all the things to complain about that's not one of them

[ancient ember]

We’re aiming to share the drop rates next week as we usually do two weeks in after a release. 🙏 Drop rates are something we always keep an eye on based on data 🙂 👀

[last onyx]

Can we also get the changelog of the droprates? 😂

[true talon]

lots of bosses allow this and you can prot melee, so why this one allowed to ignore that?

[kind sail]

if there was potentially a bug to drop rates of uniques at later delves, would you guys disclose that?

[true talon]

according to the wiki, there is no known confirmation of an increased rate when delving deeper lol

[last onyx]

#transparency

[true talon]

Its suspected that going deeper does nothing at all, besides allow you to obtain all 3 uniques.

[kind sail]

well they should tell us then, it really doesnt feel like it should work like that

[fleet portal]

but i am pretty sure it has been said the deeper you go the higher the chance

and probably after floor 8 it stays the same

[true talon]

were has it been said?

[kind sail]

im fine with it staying the same 8+, but just from everything ive seen over the last week, it really seems like its just a flat chance across the board

[true talon]

yep, this is what im getting as well.

Going past 4 justs unlocks your chance to roll all uniques

We can see the base loot caps at 2x quanity after wave 3

so uniques are prob somewhat the same

[kind sail]

makes me not want to do later waves if thats the case then tbh

no point

[idle rapids]

tfw none of your glitches get patched on wednesday

[true talon]

It is what it is, however fixes dont always have to come on a patch day, they can still show up on friday.

We saw them nerf yama drop rates by 30% XD

[fleet portal]

not sure if it was official information

but i heard somewhere that they wanted it to be like colosseum

[true talon]

I know it was mentioned in the delve blog, however its not always done that way.

Stated intention and then actual results are often different (remember when quiver was meant to hold 2 arrows and then also have slot for penny/blessing)

[fleet portal]

i don't know why they won't just leak droprates

i am 1.8k kc in with 2 clothes

[atomic locust]

You can pray melee feel free, but it has melee chip. Plenty of bosses have that mechanic 🙂

[tawny tide]

Weak ass update. We never get good updates anymore.

[kind sail]

1550 here, 55 deeps, 11 max with 1 wand

[minor whale]

Going deeper absolutely would be better long term for uniques
4 waves of 3 rolls is much better than 1 wave of no rolls, 1 wave of 1 roll, 1 wave of 2 rolls, and 1 wave of 3 rolls lmao

[atomic locust]

It's almost like drops are totally rng or something and like.. idk random? Isn't that wild?

[kind sail]

however, some people have been speculating that if you miss a unique roll on 2-3 roll waves, then all rolls will be standard loot

[kind sail]

nah that was because i was curious on rates

there is definitely something not right with the rates, and im definitely not alone lol

either doesnt give increased chance at later delves, or bugged multi loot rolls

obviously dont know for sure but it really seems like it from what everyone has been saying

[atomic locust]

Right... because you feel you're not spooned enough something is wrong... uhhuh....

[kind sail]

not my point at all but okay

[crimson dome]

"Me not getting lucky something wrong with game"

[atomic locust]

Then what exactly is your point? You're complaining you don't have drops ultimately and chalking it up to a bug

[kind sail]

im not talking about my rng specifically

im talking about the flat chance of uniques from all delves speculation

4 or 15, same chance at boots for example

[atomic locust]

Ok you're complaining about anyones rng. My buddy has gotten 3 boots and farms to 10. I have 1 and got them from 8

[kind sail]

literally not complaining

[atomic locust]

its almost like drops are totaly random

Here's the drop rate: 50/50 either you get it or you dont.

[kind sail]

great insight ty

[rustic ocean]

Where are the slayer changes

I was counting on them 😦

[true talon]

dont interact with that guy, they are always trolling.

[fossil epoch]

we knew it wasnt coming this week, after a big update, the following week is always bug fix week

[atomic locust]

Ah yes because i say things you disagree with im trolling. Everyone you interact with is a russian bot too i bet

[true talon]

the sweep up changes prob wont be for another month

[kind sail]

has to be, Im just pointing out what a lot of people have been speculating lol

has nothing to do with my individual drops

[safe dove]

Is park the car fixed doesn't seem to mention in blog post

[fossil epoch]

summer sweep up, the coming month is the last summer month, so surely 1-2 weeks

[true talon]

Yes ive seen some horrendous logs, i think rank 5 ironman right now still dont got a drop at nearly 500 deep delves lol

[fossil epoch]

it was fixed yesterday

[kind sail]

its so weird, if it was intended to keep it a flat rate across all delves, I wonder why they would want to do it that way

[true talon]

I think summer sweep up, insinuates that it was started in summer, but they wont actually roll it out till later lol.

[safe dove]

Crazy I was doing it yesterday 😂

[atomic locust]

People will speculate all kinds of things that doesn't make them right. Like people complaining grubs "ate" arrows. You're firing arrows at a 1 tick rate. Of course you're going to burn them. That's not a bug. And neither is the drop rate

[kind sail]

closest thing we have to this is colo and that gets increased chances per wave

[fossil epoch]

nah they said they want to get it out as soon as possible, and p1 had the updates drop very quickly after the blog. So im staying hopefully for this one aswell

[fossil epoch]

right up until it was patched sure

[true talon]

ya but colo shows you loot before you start and also has actual drops. this boss is go till you die or til a unique. absolute garbage risk vs reward, im never gonna claim 495 fire runes or 36 chaos runes.

[kind sail]

nah base loot is fine, I enjoy going for pbs

the loot just sustains supplies tbh

[true talon]

If your an iron it drops literally nothing lol, you ill get the uniques an peace never to return to this place.

[fossil epoch]

Besides the unique, as an ironman i really like the dragon darts and cannonballs ngl

[kind sail]

I mean this is the first time that irons arent spoonfed weird items that are really only important to irons

its very nice

refreshing even

[true talon]

i dont think so.

[kind sail]

brew chugging boss and they gave ranarr seeds

cant even sustain restores lmao

[fossil epoch]

also aether catalyst, cant get too many of those, but im guessing we will see those on more drop tables in the future aswell

[tough nacelle]

man endgame iron those arent issues lol

its crap like d darts d arrows etc

[kind sail]

probably not, but there are a lot of bosses that come out with that iron table even for end game irons

[true talon]

not really

[kind sail]

jagex is definitely trolling irons by doing ddart tips instead of arrow tips

[true talon]

every boss released has not dropped a single thing to address iron problems

[kind sail]

dt2?

dt2 with all of the ores and stuff was definitely for irons lol

[tough nacelle]

D darts

[true talon]

no its not lol

[tough nacelle]

are a huge issue

[true talon]

why the hell would i care about addy ore or coal

[tough nacelle]

yeah at that point of the game

[kind sail]

I sure care about it less as a main lol

[tough nacelle]

nah

[true talon]

mains can just sell it lol

[tough nacelle]

you get the gp benefit as a main

on my iron I had like

30k+

of each ore

[true talon]

i have 14k addy ore after dropping over 100k addy ore

[tough nacelle]

with 99 banked multiple times over

[fossil epoch]

mains dont care about any common drops, except their item value though?

[true talon]

im def not gonna process addy ore lol

[fossil epoch]

like you pick up something if its worth enough, sell it and buy stuff

[tough nacelle]

mains can do either tbh

[fossil epoch]

yeh those addy ore drops from dt2 went straight to bank, never to get processed

[kind sail]

you also have to think in terms of who jagex would likely cater to with a lot of the drop tables right

they arent really thinking about true end game irons

or else theyd give you guys some d arrows finally lol

[tough nacelle]

I wouldnt say these drop tables are iron catered

for example, bowfa is only so good for irons

[kind sail]

im not saying specifically catered to irons

[tough nacelle]

because you cant get other ammo

[true talon]

Id pref dragon ammo as a system be reworked and stop being a crutch on drop tables

[kind sail]

im talking about drops that benefit irons, but not necessarily endgame ones

[tough nacelle]

BP + masori doesnt exist

[tough nacelle]

thats 99% of drops

so should a boss just drop ashes?

[kind sail]

no lol

[tough nacelle]

because even GWD drops benefit irons

[fossil epoch]

Bowfa was good for non irons, its just that masori exist now and is cheap, so there is no reason to go that path anymore

Bowfa is still just good for irons, cuz they dont have inf dragon ammo

[tough nacelle]

Reality is ironman and main game

is the same game mode at endgame

just without dragon darts LOL

[true talon]

thats why so many de-iron

end game ironman is actual hell if you try to do end game

Im really glad they have cleaned up early and mid game iron, but they really need to do something at end game.

What hurts the most, is they released two end game bosses this year and for some reason they throw d dart tips on both infact the lockbox has 2 rolls of d darts...... and no dragon arrows on either.

[frail bough]

what is the spec regen being turned off between waves suppose to actually do? wont people just wait for death charge timers and use those to time stuff anyway?

which means people actually end up waiting even longer?

[tawny tide]

That’s literally not what’s happening at all

[lone remnant]

@kind sail +1 on rates being bugged af these guys dont know what theyre talking about

[lone remnant]

and they quietly fixed this sometime day 2. they just never communicated it. I watched myself do a grub phase in my equipment screen and lose 100% of arrows. just jagex not communicating internally at all

as well as venator tech, no communication

just a fix that now makes grubs underneath boss harsher because they will explode even while targeted

[kind sail]

https://tenor.com/view/woody-toy-story-buzz-dab-me-up-dab-up-gif-26395273

[thick beacon]

has jagex express any eta on releasing delve drop rates?

[lone remnant]

next wednesday

while they quietly adjust them

[thick beacon]

[lone remnant]

Mod Noch going on reddit and saying they havent been able to replicate the arrow bug internally is either a self snitch of them not having good internal communications or cap. It was fixed the day after release

[tough nacelle]

Heck even soul runes are a pita now

Rev ether

[true talon]

scar ess does fix this, but ofc you need 90 rcing lol

[lone remnant]

Honestly I had a deiron timer running until I pulled a 3a pickaxe, then I felt like I'm doing my account a disservice to deiron with that thing on it lmao

[drifting dome]

Hey does anyone know if there have been any news on the timeline for new servers opening in different regions. Currently playing from east africa at a constant 200 ping?

[frail bough]

Do we know if this is something thats getting looked at?

have melee and mage orb same tick

[lone remnant]

i had this happen to me once as well

[tough nacelle]

The orbs feel kinda clunky to me

I wish it was clearer what order they are hitting in

[lone remnant]

it is, its the color of the orb

[pearl patio]

I’ve gotten orb phase before shield phase on deep delves. Is this a glitch being looked into?

[tender harness]

so who are the sunkissed bones for? genuinely? varlamore literally fills you with sunkissed. drop is untradable inflates loot value, has no actual use for post 99 prayer. why are we still forcing this as a drop when its already plentiful?

[lone remnant]

nah dps issue

[true talon]

ironmen d bones XD

[tender harness]

ironmen already have like 10,000 sunkissed bone sources

fuck adding more of them

[true talon]

i drop/destory them im already 99 prayer

[tender harness]

hunter rumors alone kinda made shards

[true talon]

replace sunkissed bones with dragon arrow tips

[pearl patio]

Is it a dps check?

[true talon]

🙂

[pearl patio]

Would be cool to not get b4b boulders that would help with the dps

[lone remnant]

Yeah you basically have a timer running to hit that orb phase if you dont proc 75% before then

yeah thats usually when it happens, on b4b boulders

[haughty magnet]

They’ve done everything to take away from the players but done nothing about fixing the bugs lmao

[true talon]

yea its a jank ass boss phasing issue, if you dont hit 75% untill about 1 min into the fight you will get orbs

[frail bough]

the demonic spells 1 ticking makes the entire fight at least 25% more enjoyable for me, so im thankful for that

[lone remnant]

alright gonna send an attempt and not get boots on wave 4 then be doomed to also not roll any uniques on 8+ afufufu

[left wolf]

Which mods are working on the bank layout?

[drifting dome]

Hey does anyone know if there have been any news on the timeline for new servers opening in different regions. Currently playing from east africa at a constant 200 ping?

[fossil epoch]

People have been requesting this for 10+ years atleast now. There has never been any mention of it.
Some jmods think its a good idea, but its not the developers who makes this decision its the higher ups

Most likely they dont expect it to bring in more money than what it costs to have the servers running and all the stuff ascociated with that

[obsidian venture]

@kind sail saw your comment in the other channel about pushing rewards up a few delves. If anything at least the boots

[kind sail]

atleast the boots

[obsidian venture]

Or instead of 2/3/4 could be 3/4/6

[lone remnant]

5/6/7

[kind sail]

boots 6 minimum

id prefer 7 but would be okay with 6

[obsidian venture]

If I’m being real nothing before 4 ye

[kind sail]

its not about gatekeeping

its about rewarding good gameplay

on a boss that rewards good gameplay

[obsidian venture]

It’s about rewarding progression

And farming waves 1-4 or 1-5 isn’t a good gameloop

[kind sail]

the amount of 9-11s ive done with blessed bones makes me upset

[lone remnant]

never seen a unique at 8+ pb of 13 111 deep delves

[kind sail]

little timmys can just get half bil items for literally no work

[kind sail]

its for sure bugged

or intended but if its intended they're moronic

[lone remnant]

ive seen pets

[obsidian venture]

Here’s endgame content where you don’t have to learn it if you don’t want too but you can get bis items just resetting. Sure drop rates might be low but it’s legit brain off to run

[lone remnant]

which are 'very rare'

soooooooo

[kind sail]

I can get to wave 4 with my eyes closed honestly

i can get to wave 6 with my eyes closed

boots at 8+ wws

[obsidian venture]

It’s funny that they release basically a megarare boots and it’s on delve 4

[lone remnant]

shit by this point 1-7 is brain off

8 is brain off until orb lol

[kind sail]

if everyone was still struggling like we were the first couple hours of release id get it

but we arent

[tough nacelle]

What do you mean

[kind sail]

atleast players who actually push the content arent

[lone remnant]

the color of the orb indicates the first prayer

[obsidian venture]

I haven’t sent this boss much but getting to d7 consistently is chill, d8 is interesting unless you yellow click and get whopped

[tough nacelle]

But you won’t know which is 3rd or 4th

[kind sail]

ive actually found wave 8 lowkey a little too easy now with the mage autodelay fix

[obsidian venture]

It’s the same pattern

[kind sail]

its just the sustain and all my rocks going bye bye

[lone remnant]

yes you do, it follows the same pattern every time

[tough nacelle]

Oh I thought it was random

[kind sail]

if its green its always RMR

if its blue its always MRM

[tough nacelle]

That’s a lot better

[obsidian venture]

But I have seen clips of people solving the orb into an auto from Mol that is same ticked

[kind sail]

on wave 8 + if its green it will always be RMRRMR

[obsidian venture]

Dunno if that’s meant to be a thing or just unlucky

[kind sail]

and vice versa

[minor whale]

I think ever getting meleed fucks up the autos

[tough nacelle]

I was so annoyed with it

[lone remnant]

day 1 i had a wave 7 pb without realizing the rocks indicated the prayer so i just raw dogged 7 guessing

[tough nacelle]

It felt so random

[minor whale]

I've never once gotten the same-ticked autos by just never getting meleed

[kind sail]

literally same lmao

waited for other people to figure it out for me

coffer pretty empty

[true talon]

i think pet should be 8+ only

[kind sail]

at a high rate of like 1/200 id be okay with that tbh

[lone remnant]

echo crystals from week 1 colo filled up my deaths coffer with 250m

[kind sail]

honestly 1 week in its not a question of can i get past wave 8

its can I get to 11 12 13 14

[true talon]

gonna regret that when echo boots are actually used lol

[obsidian venture]

Pet peeve is seeing folks using dark light and a slayer staff for lower death fees. Do what you will but I think it’s silly it works

[lone remnant]

i dont even have tourmaline core

[kind sail]

dont call me out wtf

[obsidian venture]

Brokie

[kind sail]

bro

BRO

im trying

[obsidian venture]

[true talon]

i agree, but if the boss gonna remain the way it is, and we are basically bug testers/play testers. then alright.

[kind sail]

swapped from masori to evoid today for the first time and instantly hit 11

insane how much better evoid is

[obsidian venture]

Has anyone used arkan at delve

If no zcb

[true talon]

void gives 5 max hits over masori if you have d arrows.

[kind sail]

nah just d knife or dwh

at that point

[kind sail]

ye but way less accurate

[true talon]

car phase is 100% accurate

[kind sail]

just didnt know how much better evoid was for 8+

[true talon]

which is were your dps matters

[kind sail]

thought ppl were trolling

[lone remnant]

yeah i switched back to masori after car park tech was fixed

[true talon]

Why

[kind sail]

nah swap back

no comparison

[minor whale]

Not a fan of void, in the cases you don't kill during car you're shit out of luck and doing another whole shield phase half the time

[kind sail]

evoid is just better

[true talon]

Car park tech was less dps

just more afk

[rare grotto]

is just preference, tho i think if ur consistent then evoid is better

masori is nice for early waves

[kind sail]

I think its this tbh

[lone remnant]

speedrunners using masori

[rare grotto]

gets u through that slugfest faster

[kind sail]

if youre not losing ticks during car phase then youd be silly not to use evoid

for speeds yeah go masori probably

[true talon]

Really masori should be stronger

[kind sail]

but for sustain definitely evoid

[true talon]

we shouldnt be having free armor be better dps than bis armor

[rare grotto]

if ur speedrunning 1-8 ud just take both + melee set lol

[kind sail]

idc about my pbs, im using best gear and still cant get a sub 8 without losing ticks anywhere

rng will rng

[minor whale]

It's tied with bis in 2 places in the entire game, sort of
It's ok

3 if you count BA lmao

[true talon]

would you be saying the same if it tied with torva or oathplate in the same places

or competed with ancestral

[minor whale]

Yes?
If there's ocassional places where random lower level gear ties up with bis gear, that's fine?

[kind sail]

nah evoid is definitely a niche that fits well

[true talon]

i mean its only a niche for range

[kind sail]

melee tob if broke wws

[minor whale]

Why would you think it's just Masori that I'm fine with dunking on in 2 places lmao

[kind sail]

shadow rebuilds with absolute 0 gp

[true talon]

melee void in tob is trolling

[minor whale]

If there's content where melee void shines that's cool

[kind sail]

i know but it happens lol

[rare grotto]

melee void is fine (if learning)

also encouraged

[true talon]

why? you can just bring torso and obby legs for better dps

[kind sail]

when I learned tob they wouldnt let me take anything but evoid

[rare grotto]

tass

ppl are bad at the game

being dead is less dps than running melee void

[true talon]

how is bringing melee void gonna lead to less deaths?

[rare grotto]

way more supplies

[kind sail]

people get messed up with switches

and die

happens all the time

[lone remnant]

I also dont have zcb. so car phase isnt as critical for me to kill cause ill orb walk anyways

[kind sail]

thats fair

[true talon]

you just dont bring switches with good melee gear?

[kind sail]

not for learners

[rare grotto]

tass about to reinvent the blue owl hmt inventory

[true talon]

hate him if you like, he does not die and does complete the raid.

[rare grotto]

@obsidian venture

alert

[kind sail]

oh boy

[rare grotto]

😂

[kind sail]

hahahahahaha

[rare grotto]

couple messages ago tass says "melee void is trolling" to follow it up with that

[minor whale]

He's transformed into Irene somehow

Next he's gonna say he uses dwh to kill scavs to save Shadow charges

[kind sail]

please dont say that name

lmfaoooo

[true talon]

dunno id rather have blue owl with packyack of brews an complete the raid, than mr zuk helm who has 1 brew and half a restore and 24 pieces of gear who dies the very first time he makes a mistake and we wipe.

[rare grotto]

so now you're advocating for melee void setups

[minor whale]

Didn't you just ask how elite void helps people survive

[rare grotto]

thanks for agreeing with me

[true talon]

void does not = more inventory, unless you are bringing a bunch of uneeded shit in with you.

[minor whale]

[kind sail]

[rare grotto]

bait or clueless

the tass special

[pearl patio]

Has blue owl ever even made time

[obsidian venture]

Horrible player 🤣

[obsidian venture]

Ngl Irene is actually normal to talk to outside the game

[obsidian venture]

50/50

[minor whale]

ngl I thought Irene would talk like Anodd outside the places I've seen them

Just kinda get the same vibes

[obsidian venture]

Anyways, whole logic for melee void being used as a learner is it’s more inv spots for learners and switching from void to fighters/torso/bm/bandos is almost negligible dps pre scythe

[obsidian venture]

He’s well settled irl and actually functions well

[minor whale]

Learners miss ticks and eat a lot
Having more to eat to stay alive without overwhelming them right off the bat keeps them alive and alive does more dps than dead

[obsidian venture]

If you aren’t using a scythe, you need to make sure you’re at least ending the tob run with 3+ supplies

That’s when you’d bring in str gear pre scythe

Or even post scythe really

Learning good habits is better than justi coping and not finishing the raid on time

[minor whale]

What's the Blue Owl setup look like

So I can know what is being advocated for by Tass

[obsidian venture]

Imagine taking a learner and guaranteeing that they won’t learn anything + won’t make time (so the kc and kit + dust chance is wasted) + will be a hospital patient for other future teammates

[obsidian venture]

Melee switches only, 20 brews

Full justi

[minor whale]

No fucking way

[obsidian venture]

Yeah way

[minor whale]

Hahahaha

[obsidian venture]

He’s on a “list”

Also it’s funny to hear Tass say what he said about void when he also wants demonbane to be better than megas

Like please be consistent

[minor whale]

That's so funny
When he gets to maiden/nylos does he just say "gl guys you got this I'm gonna just melee"

[obsidian venture]

It’s OK for stuff to win at certain niche content

[obsidian venture]

He afks yes

Raids take a minimum of 35 min

[minor whale]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-falling-building-fall-woodz-gif-24715383

[obsidian venture]

Gotta tap the sign

[minor whale]

I'd love to see him do ToA tbh

"I will not be doing anything at Zebak, brb"

[lone remnant]

wave 11 loot pog! 45 sun kissed bones! surely value is 1,453,002 GP surely!

[obsidian venture]

Prob does who knows and who cares really. But simply taking folks with the guise of learning and wasting their time should be applauded

[true talon]

no i wanted demonbane casting to be 4 tick to match the other demonbanes (emberlight was better than megas, so your statement is invalid)

[obsidian venture]

It’s not invalid as people already explained why that’d be dumb

Plus your lack of understanding of what a 1t difference is in terms of dps

[lone remnant]

oh, what you wanted was actually dumber than what everyone originally thought

[obsidian venture]

Yeah basically

But that’s Tass so nothing new

Just give headpats and move on angle

[lone remnant]

ur valid tass 👑

[true talon]

how is wanting consistency a problem lol. to me demonbane as a spell cast is fucking stupid and if i could i woulda made purging staff a powered staff that is just demonbane.

[obsidian venture]

🥱

[lone remnant]

because it would make purging staff bis over shadow at contracts

which removes a layer of skill expression

[obsidian venture]

Mind you people still camped purging for simplicity sake

[lone remnant]

yep

[obsidian venture]

But yeah

[lone remnant]

also, you might get your powered demonbane staff

just get the drop 4head

[true talon]

what? this was already the case lol. shadow does not provide more dps than demonbane to warrant not camping it (probably doesnt even provide more dps now with the upgraded bracelet and boots + the eye spec)

[lone remnant]

how are you always so wrong about things

[true talon]

would be hilarious if the eye of ayak is made demonbane lol

[obsidian venture]

🥱

Wrong and confident

[lone remnant]

bro my ayakas examine text literally says 'This staff is imbued with demonic power.'

[hard axle]

Shadow is better dps at Yama, but people opted for demonbane because you can brew without losing as much dps

[obsidian venture]

Ayakas 🔥

[lone remnant]

and no switch for orbs

[tender harness]

ayakas beads

[obsidian venture]

Bro?

[tender harness]

bro?

[lone remnant]

be careful i got warned for calling it the bead staff

[obsidian venture]

😭😭😭

[lone remnant]

1400 delves toilet paper to wipe after i use the staff

[obsidian venture]

Hey what’s akkhas last phase called?

[hard axle]

I see it now

💀

[obsidian venture]

Touhou phase that’s right

[half adder]

Bank Layout Feedback: We Need Your Thoughts!

The numbers across the bottom are taking up more space than they need to. They can be cut down.

The dump-container option can be merged with the bag icon bottom right.

[lone remnant]

just add layouts from rs3, no balls

[true talon]

Unforunately the gauntlet effect dont work but i think that would be enough to bridge the gap

[lone remnant]

what youve shown me is a clearly better layout vs purging staff

?????????

[true talon]

this is max vs max

[lone remnant]

yes, in which shadow is clearly better

[true talon]

but the gauntlets dont work in the dps calc

and gauntlets dont benefit shadow

[lone remnant]

eh u might be right with gauntlets now but idk

[true talon]

Also if you eye of ayak spec the boss for atleast 60 damage, it will boost the accuracy of demonbane drastically

[lone remnant]

lets just agree that all this demonbane shit theyve released is stupid

[obsidian venture]

Ayak spec is bugged atm as well iirc

Can drain into the negatives

[lone remnant]

think thats only corp rn

[fossil epoch]

probably gonna see some vampirebane from the final vampire quest

thats not bad weapons like the ones we have now

[small anvil]

It's listed in the fix notes that they fixed eye spec

[lone remnant]

when are we going to see [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]

[small anvil]

To not go below 0

[obsidian venture]

Ooo

[snow oxide]

The calc for the gloves works on gearscape and purging staff is now better vs Yama

[true talon]

Thanks, i figured that was the case

[small anvil]

That's silly

[snow oxide]

It isn’t, demonbane should kill demons lol

[lone remnant]

you was right my bad

[true talon]

the delve update made magic so strong lol

eye reducing magic defense is crazy

[rare grotto]

it feels too shoehorned in to cater to a certain audience

[true talon]

if you reduce yamas magic defense by 60 the accuracy of magic goes up to 90%+

[rare grotto]

i will not elaborate

[snow oxide]

I’m pretty excited for the eye in raids, just waiting for it to drop a bit more

[obsidian venture]

🤐

[snow oxide]

Killing nylos and reducing warden magic defense pretty cool

[lone remnant]

at least that certain audience is now realizing lag thats existed for years

afufufufu

[snow oxide]

I guess olm mage hand too?

[lone remnant]

brought a smile to my face to see the redditors are finally seeing lag

[true talon]

yea if you camp light bearer you can get a elder and a ayak spec off

[obsidian venture]

😭😭

[true talon]

between phases

[rare grotto]

eye spec is rlly not worth using, requires too much spec investment before it's worth it and by that point u should've just used dps specs

[obsidian venture]

Tbf at Toa, was decent at zeb

[small anvil]

Also does mage tank reset between phases

[rare grotto]

also whichever place u want to reduce mdef usually has a lot of it, therefore making it harder to land etc..

[obsidian venture]

Other content or bosses meh

[snow oxide]

Counter point, most things that are weak to magic don’t really have a great spec to use for dps

[tender harness]

counter counter point ayak spec just is dumb

[rare grotto]

u got an example?

[true talon]

Its gotta be cracked at whisperer

[lone remnant]

new whisperer tech

[snow oxide]

The whisperer

[obsidian venture]

When are they fixing the volatile

[rare grotto]

isn't zcb/vw outright better

[lone remnant]

surely not for extended trips, going for time yeah

[snow oxide]

I haven’t calc’d it, my gut says you would miss zcb enough to annoy me

at least that’s what I remember from the speed CA lol

[obsidian venture]

What’s your fastest zeb in a 530? @rare grotto

Noname ayak specced it and got a 2:30

But they specced multiple times + surge potted

[rare grotto]

have ran 2 530s

300 was best

[lone remnant]

i did dt2 ca's with an acb

ask me anything

but dont ask about my 700 dbolts missing

[last onyx]

Never seen a solo 530 Zebak in 2:30 in 1500kc

[rare grotto]

230 is juice tho

[true talon]

With gauntlet effect, this might be on par with shadow

[small anvil]

Isn't the cycle annoying with eye

[rare grotto]

u got 5 eye specs off the bat yeah

and ur on avg gonna miss half of those

or a bit more iirc

[snow oxide]

Eye is gonna be way more sweaty but good vs a bunch of stuff, shadow is still gonna be best vs high defense things like kree and what not and best in raids that aren’t in morytania

[true talon]

the 8.3% unique chance 😭

[last onyx]

That’s some crazy rng 😂 how the hell

[obsidian venture]

[lone remnant]

you guys are so lucky i cant post pictures in here yet

otherwise my apology form would come out with some heat

[inner fiber]

Why no more lbqt logo?

[obsidian venture]

[lone remnant]

its almost august bro let it go

[inner fiber]

Can't, they just used the lbqt community and dropped them like that, we want gay marches every month

[obsidian venture]

Rent free in 2025

[tender harness]

the what?

[inner fiber]

Rent boy here

[tender harness]

low effort pasta

[obsidian venture]

Don’t touch my spaghet

[lone remnant]

if you want gay marches, just join my discord im ins late night discord calls

youll hear a lot of gay going on

[shrewd fossil]

playtest for content updates when

[inner fiber]

Never mind they releasing sailing, that's lbqt enough for me

[tender harness]

like how they randomly killed master farmers in varlamore

because ???

[obsidian venture]

They probably wanted it more in-line with the other ones

[tender harness]

it was like that for over a year

bros kill farmers like they kill trouble brewing 😭

[obsidian venture]

Yeah man they aren’t known to update stuff in a timely manner minus a few big ones

[lone remnant]

i just died on delve 5

im washed

[obsidian venture]

Summer sweep up had stuff that should have changed 3 years ago

[tender harness]

summer sweep up also was suppose to have corp changes that are not there

corp my beloved

[lone remnant]

bro relax its coming. winter 2017

[obsidian venture]

Oh shit you right

[tender harness]

when are we getting slayer changes

dumb ass skill

[true talon]

I like this cycle.
wow players coming to osrs because early/mid game is good.
end game osrs players going to wow, because end game in osrs is bad.

[tender harness]

what end game players went to wow

[lone remnant]

none

another tass take

[true talon]

its a joke lol

however myself will be going to play wow in 11.2 which releases next week, because hunter changes look fire.

[lone remnant]

well man you have some crazy takes so its hard to tell sometimes

[true talon]

and delv boss still dont work, so its good to go play a dif game while they sort that out.

[lone remnant]

delve boss works champ

[kind sail]

@obsidian venture could be you if you potted wws

[tender harness]

not enough sunkissed bones

[obsidian venture]

I’m like barely a 100 delves in

No time 🫠

But I did make it to d8 yesterday so pacing I guess

[lone remnant]

gotta send 100 wave 4 resets to convince jagex im a wave 4 warrior so i can get boots on wave 4

[kind sail]

imagine if they stealth fixed a late wave bug

uncanny that this is hours after the update

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-suspicious-look-suspicious-doubt-dog-doubt-gif-23680990

[lone remnant]

you know whats funnyt

this morning

also got cloth on 7

[kind sail]

hmmmmm

[sturdy summit]

anyone know if theyre putting out the droprate of uniques today?

[kind sail]

next week

[sturdy summit]

frick

[lone remnant]

next week so they can shift them around with their grubby british paws

[kind sail]

100%

they doing something fishy

[sturdy summit]

those damn brits

i got cloth and eye at around 800 delves with 6 my max, while my groupmate is at 1200 with 20 deep delves and nothing

[lone remnant]

rare jagex w from ayiza

[obsidian venture]

It’s always 2 weeks after new content is released

[lone remnant]

im on a world with 5 people, its crisp

[sturdy summit]

oh i was thinking it was 1 week

[obsidian venture]

Private server…

[sturdy summit]

guess the yama droprate situation spoiled me

[lone remnant]

538 come join me, but world caps at 35 people sorry

[obsidian venture]

[true talon]

Glad they adding more worlds and now maybe the regions people want will get added

W jagex

Make sure you vote no to every major gold farming region

[lone remnant]

gotta go kill boss before world rng gets used up

[halcyon remnant]

Wonder how hard Zaryte cbow is gonna crash next update when they stop spec recharging between delve waves

[obsidian venture]

That’s not going to make it crash

Zcb is still going to be bis

Plus with double dc, getting spec back is a non issue

They’re just tryna stop people from milking spec which is more than fair

[tiny dew]

I haven’t been milking and its fine with and without lightbearer

[obsidian venture]

Yeah

[minor whale]

ZCB + lb + surge

• double dc

You're cruising on spec energy

[obsidian venture]

Haven’t brought surge yet due to learning atm

But yeah spec in general is pretty chill to maintain

[true talon]

Only reason it was milked is so you can zcb at the start then use double death charge on grubs an get another zcb during car

Personally they should improve the orb phase, so that your not incentivized to skip it....

I guess the orb wiping out acid is pretty good (i would still make it larger and protect you instantly)

[small anvil]

They mentioned orb clearing venom pools

[true talon]

or maybe add increased accuracy when under its effect like leviathan pathfinder

[small anvil]

Which will help for deep delves

As a thing to be investigated

[true talon]

Just copy and paste the pathfinder code to this orb XD lemme webweaver spec the bastard

Orb is not being explored to its fulliest

[sturdy summit]

i just got treads

i kjust got traeads

oooooh my god

[true talon]

gratz

[sturdy summit]

delve 6 tredas

greenlogged except for pet lmaooo

my groupmate is gfoing to hate me

[vestal cosmos]

Is this ? It’s not the fault of the 14 casual Venezuelan players that their country’s economy is so bad that other people in their country have to farm a videogame to survive. I don’t agree with gold farming but it’s not entirely their choice either.

[formal sentinel]

Surge is also a 5min cooldown, right? So it's effectively once or twice per run unless you're doing multiple 8+?

[true talon]

no, i mean you do not want the likes of china or other asia regions to have access. because its absolutely destorys a game, if you think bots are bad now, wait till those regions have servers.

it happened in lost ark

[obsidian venture]

Yeah I mean if it’s the chance between getting a zcb for later waves, it’s worth

[true talon]

lost ark was brought to the west and every region was given access, the servers were flooded with china bots and other gold farming regions millions of them.

[obsidian venture]

But if you’re just resetting then it’s not worth

[small anvil]

Asian players deserve closer servers lol

It's not like bots are that hampered by ping

[true talon]

im just saying, careful what you ask for in a mmo with trade and a economy, personally im an ironman so i shouldnt care. but yea....

[kind sail]

like bane said, recharge between waves is meaningless

[obsidian whale]

Because opening up a game to billions of Chinese never went wrong

[quartz anchor]

You can just camp shield charge phase for spec way faster than AFKing after the wave.

[kind sail]

yeah it really is a non issue

I 1t > descend every time anyway

always have the specs i need

[true talon]

a lot of gaming companies do not do business with china despite it being a massive market.
Blizzard basically let china be handled by another company and lets them have wow, but CN is completely seperated from US/EU wow.

Like you cant interact with china server at all

[quartz anchor]

With all these worlds opening up can I finally farm wildy bosses in peace?

[sacred oracle]

(no)

[novel egret]

how much monies does it even cost jagex per new world added?

[frail bough]

$12.99

[kindred owl]

The monkey paw curls. Granted but no drops

[novel egret]

i meant the price of a fresh new world not the price of membership

[frail bough]

$12.99

[novel egret]

[restive siren]

How would anyone know

[hard axle]

Jagex hasn't shared the details but they did say initial setup costs a lot more than just additional worlds

[novel egret]

makes sense :,(

[supple dune]

China's gaming culture actively encourages cheating and underhandedness in general, trust me you do not want this. I used to play a lot of korean mmos and whenever china somehow became a factor, the games would just become a competition of who can blatantly cheat or whale harder.

Not to mention how they constantly try to steal eachothers accounts, if you thought it was bad in rs

[vestal cosmos]

I’ve heard of prisoners in China being forced to grind MMO cash for RWT too

[hard axle]

https://i.imgur.com/5z7HSli.png

[small anvil]

What did you teach my poor innocent moo deng

[true talon]

The CN logs in warcraft are insane. they use extremely underhanded tactics and abuse lol.

[hard axle]

gunschili taught him the ways

[fossil epoch]

this but i took east asia, felt like it touched broad regions

[meager flame]

im ngl

i have no idea why thats a survey

jagex should tell us

they see where we're connecting to the game from

i cant wrap my head around player feedback doing anything useful with that stuff lol

[hard axle]

VPN and what not probably messes with it and additional data always helps convince the higher ups

[meager flame]

yeah but you could just hop on their survey and lie

or be like

im from brazil and really want this server

so let me just link this to everyone i know or make a bot to respond

etc

its a nice thought but idk if that really makes sense lol

its like when they made the should osrs come back poll

and you could just sign with anyone's username that you could think of

[tacit wharf]

something that takes very little time to give feedback they can show with their other in-house info thats collected

[meager flame]

yeah it just makes no sense honestly like

their in house info is 100% superior

[last onyx]

I blame you for that picture xD

[obsidian venture]

LMAO

[tender harness]

fun detected fun removed

[kind sail]

so do you just instant 1 shot anything then lmao

[sacred oracle]

does below 0 magic defense do anything?

[kind sail]

can you link me to that page?

[last onyx]

It's just on the front page
https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/varlamore-bug-fixes--more?oldschool=true

[kind sail]

ty

[hard axle]

FUCK

come on dude

REALLY

who leaked...

I wanted to fuck around with it...

[kindred owl]

They posted a bug in the discord dedicated to the game, how did you think they wouldn't find out?

[hard axle]

Ah I see the fucks above talking about it

[pliant coral]

Anyone had the medium clue challenge from Brundt that asks how many audience members are watching the bard, yet? Previous answer was 4, wonder if they’ve updated the clue answer to 5 or not, after today’s update.

[upper ice]

someone was saying something

with ayak its like really broken idk

but they fixed it already

[hard axle]

it does

It's a massive increase

in accuracy

0 to -5 is like geniunely a disgusting increase

because of how the accuracy calc works

it's why if ur manage to bring a bos to -65, u have 100% accuracy (if it somehow doesn't break the game)

[sacred oracle]

that's so weird

i would have thought 0 is the floor and nothing past that would affect calculations

[hard axle]

look at vetion

let me put it this way, a 800 magic level boss with a -50 magic defense bonus, would be squishier or as squishy as a 50 magic level mob with no magic defense bonus to mage

with shadow

[true talon]

Yep look at this

[narrow folio]

Would've been nice to roll with it and cap it at like -20 instead

[hard axle]

-20 is just as terrifying

[true talon]

taking 60 magic defense off yama gives you 10% accuracy lol

[hard axle]

I think -5 shoudl be the cap

[narrow folio]

Why can melee and range get zero defensed?

And magic barely has any spec reduction

[hard axle]

different reduction

rn range/mage have 0 ways of reducing bonus defense

[narrow folio]

If its boss specific, just limit it on a per boss basis

And mage cant reduce magic level that well either

[hard axle]

oh and best part about bonus defense reduction, it doesnt recover at all

no stat regen

[narrow folio]

Great

But still

If your team wants to dump eye specs on something, let them, just like hammer and bgs

[hard axle]

they can, no?

[narrow folio]

You basically have perfect accuracy at 0 normal defense for melee and range

[true talon]

ya you can send everything to 0 magic defense with enough specs

[narrow folio]

But magic level isnt affected by eye

[hard axle]

accursed

with ayak